From the Black Sea Fleet to the Baltic. Alrosa goes to serve in the Baltic

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High Command of the Naval fleet The Russian Federation decided to relocate the Alrosa submarine from the Black Sea Fleet to the Baltic Fleet, Izvestia reports citing the military leadership of the Russian Navy.

From the Black Sea Fleet to the Baltic. Alrosa goes to serve in the Baltic




In the military, this redeployment was explained by the almost complete absence of the submarine fleet in the Baltic and the arrival of new submarines in the Black Sea Fleet. The submarine will be included in the Red Banner Leningrad Naval Base (LenVMB) of the Baltic Fleet. Later, the submarine will be sent to upgrade. Earlier, Alrosa made the transition to the Baltic, in 2011, it arrived in Kronstadt, where it underwent scheduled repairs.

It should be noted that, at present, only two submarines of the 877 project, still Soviet-built, are serving in the Baltic - these are Vyborg and Dmitrov. At the same time, the Vyborg submarine built in 1983 for a long time has not been modernized and has not been repaired, and it is planned to withdraw it from the fleet. "Dmitrov" in the period of 2014 - 2018 was under repair in Kronstadt.

Multi-purpose diesel submarine "Alrosa" is also not new. It was laid at the Krasnoye Sormovo plant in Nizhny Novgorod in May, 1988, and was built according to the 877В project "Halibut" with one constructive change — instead of a propeller, a water jet was installed on the boat.
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  1. +8
    14 August 2018 08: 04
    ... "Trishkin caftan" we patch ...
    1. 0
      14 August 2018 11: 04
      Yes, unfortunately that's exactly the case ... Even the Pacific Fleet will be equipped with diesel Varshavyankas instead of multipurpose nuclear submarines ...
    2. 0
      15 August 2018 16: 56
      Quote: aszzz888
      ... "Trishkin caftan" we patch ...

      Well, why? To build a new one is more expensive. And this one will be modernized, patched up and made training for cadets. So to speak, they will feel it live.
  2. +6
    14 August 2018 08: 16
    In 2011, she arrived in Kronstadt, where she underwent a scheduled repair.

    This year I saw her at the base of the World Cup fleet in Sevastopol. The submarine was clearly under repair, the lining of the light hull was dismantled, containers for compressed air were visible, parts of the skin of the cabin were also dismantled. It seemed that the submarine was clearly not on the move.
    1. +2
      14 August 2018 08: 32
      Quote: Spambox
      This year I saw her at the base of the World Cup fleet in Sevastopol. The submarine was clearly under repair

      so I was looking for a long time, what is happening with Alrosa? And he found out what is in Sevastopol and there is a sluggish current repair, which so far is not visible end and edge !! and here bam and she is already in the Baltic belay miracles request
    2. +1
      14 August 2018 10: 11
      Also seen this year, a miserable sight. Although for the sake of justice, I note that from 3-4 times I saw her, she always arrived not in the best shape.
      1. +1
        14 August 2018 14: 20
        "Summer 2014 B-871 “Alrosa” was put to repair and modernization at the 13th ship repair plant in Sevastopol. It was originally planned to complete the repair in 2015, but its duration increased. According to information on April 18, 2016, the boat was repaired from the floating dock after the repair of the bottom-outboard reinforcement to the 13th Ship Repair Plant workshop for further work, which will continue for several months.
        Repair and modernization planned complete in 2017, however this did not happen. According to [b] as of April 2018, remained under repair, the exact completion date of which was not announced. "
  3. NKT
    0
    14 August 2018 08: 23
    And why, if we have so few submarines in the Baltic, are we now building six 636 pieces for Pacific Fleet? It may be better to give them to the Baltic, and for the Pacific Fleet it is better to Ash.
    1. +8
      14 August 2018 08: 45
      The problem is that in the Pacific Fleet with a full shank with the update, and the area of ​​responsibility will be more, and our strategists need to be protected from other people's boats. And the Baltic, at this stage, we can say a closed puddle for our fleet (during the database), there as an adversary. so we will all sink from the coast, and by aviation.
      But you must have at least a minimum fleet composition.
      1. +1
        14 August 2018 11: 00
        On the Pacific Fleet 8 boats ordered, already in operation.
        1. +2
          14 August 2018 11: 56
          Quote: Berkut24
          On the Pacific Fleet 8 boats ordered, already in operation.

          no, only 6 pieces -
          It is planned that 6 diesel-electric submarines of project 636.3 will be built for the Pacific Fleet.
        2. -1
          14 August 2018 14: 35
          Quote: Berkut24
          On the Pacific Fleet 8 boats ordered, already in operation.

          As for minusculers, this information is not the topic !!!!!
          1. +1
            14 August 2018 17: 08
            Quote: Serg65
            As for minusculers, this information is not the topic !!!!!

            which one? about how the character is lying - Berkut24 (Alexey) Today, 11:00
            On the Pacific Fleet 8 boats ordered, already in operation.
            then all the lies are complete, there are 2 boats of Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky and Volkhov in operation, Magadan and Ufa will be laid in 19 .... then Mozhaisk will only be laid and for the 6th boat there is no name and the order for it has not yet been signed ... .. !!!!! So what is the plus point? for outright lies?
    2. +1
      14 August 2018 08: 45
      A very strange article, but why should we show that on B.F. no boats?
      1. +3
        14 August 2018 10: 19
        Quote: cniza
        A very strange article, but why should we show that on B.F. no boats?

        You might think this is a big secret.
    3. 0
      14 August 2018 08: 45
      Quote: NKT
      for Pacific Fleet is better than Ash.

      who argues - certainly better, that's just where they are these Ash-trees? They simply do not exist in the gland. Severodvinsk in the North, and Kazan will be used for another year, or even more, the rest are still very far from launching !! And diesels riveted in 2-4 years and the business is done ........
    4. 0
      14 August 2018 09: 23
      So in the Pacific Fleet, too, with the ship’s composition it’s not at all thick. There are no Ashes. Only 7 units were laid in 2 fleets and only 1 in service.
  4. +4
    14 August 2018 08: 44
    ... instead of a propeller, a jet engine is installed on the boat.
    1. -1
      14 August 2018 10: 51
      off-topic comrades -
      It was previously reported that the ship received a serious hole during a collision with a Russian longboat carrying fuel oil. Only by sheer luck did the longboat not explode, although a fire occurred on it. The hole received by the frigate is small, but located in a very inconvenient place, so for now it can’t be repaired. The pumps are constantly working to tide the incoming water, but the situation may worsen by night.

      Victims were also reported. According to sources, they became two sailors who were at the time of the collision on the longboat

      it’s about Grigorovich, if it’s true then why are they hiding it? if fake then thank god ......
      1. +1
        14 August 2018 18: 18
        Quote: Tiksi-3
        The hole received by the frigate is small, but located in a very inconvenient place, so for now it can’t be repaired.

        This is bullshit! A small hole would have been repaired at once with a patch. They would have let the diver down (the foreman of the hold command, as a rule, or a regular "water-pipe") and welded it to hell, as it has always been done ... Or did everything fall so low at the Black Sea Fleet? I won't believe it, because The Black Sea Fleet has always been royal, and the BP with the BZZh sacredly blues there ...
        So, it's more of a fake. In addition: fuel oil simply does not burn, even on the Barkas (a small craft designed to transport l / s and small cargo is on board the ship. Descends as needed). Yes
  5. +5
    14 August 2018 09: 22
    Quote: cniza
    A very strange article, but why should we show that on B.F. no boats?

    And this has always been so in the Union. The West knew yes, and according to certain agreements, they were given the exact quantity and location, and inside the country, their own, no, no. Secret...
    So it turned out that when the West began to blame us for something at some open conferences, meetings (not the leadership, of course, and not at the level of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs), ours looked very pale. For there were no arguments, well, perhaps only "And you have blacks lynched" laughing
    It's okay that they showed us that there are almost no boats in the Baltic. They know that. Now many of us too.
  6. 0
    14 August 2018 11: 18
    Some strange statement. It seems like Alrosa has been repairing and modernizing in Sevastopol for 4 years already? Has it already been surrendered? belay
    In principle, it makes sense to relocate it to the Baltic. In the Baltic we have two old boats and a third will not hurt. That's just an extra submarine at the World Cup also does not hurt, after all, this is the most likely TVD. It wouldn’t hurt even to build a second squadron of 6 Varshavyanka for the World Cup, and not remove Alrosa. request Again there was infa about plans to leave two Lada under construction in the Baltic. They there would be more appropriate in their dimensions and secrecy.
    1. +2
      14 August 2018 11: 42
      Quote: g1v2
      It wouldn’t hurt even to build a second squadron of 6 Varshavyanka for the World Cup, and not to remove Alrosa

      all the more so because at the World Cup there are not 6, but 4 boats in total ... 2 are assigned to Tartus and their passage to the World Cup may turn out to be one way - the Turks may not let them back into the Mediterranean Sea, we would have 2 more diesel engines in the Mediterranean and 2 on The Black Sea, although what the lack of 3 Admiral series not built there, and about the 22350 for the Black Sea Fleet I’m generally silent .... (((((with sadness we look at our Navy and hope for the best - which is ahead))
    2. +3
      14 August 2018 18: 37
      Quote: g1v2
      relocating it to the Baltic makes sense.

      Well, if only closer to the design bureau and research institute for testing VNEU. Well, not to test it in combat, to alter it? Here "Diamonds of Russia" with a water cannon and practice on "cats". And it’s not a sin to define a used item on a combat unit ... Yes, here it is.
      Quote: g1v2
      That's just an extra submarine at the World Cup also does not hurt, after all, this is the most likely TVD.
      The most likely MTVD is most likely in the Mediterranean. Amy in the World Cup will not trample over Russia's clear advantage in the STS and the BRAV.
      Quote: g1v2
      build a second squadron from 6 Varshavyanka for the World Cup
      Something you have a "squadron" of the size of a regular SLBM (submarine brigade) in number ... That will not work! For the commander of the ESPL is a single-piece vice admiral, and the brigade commander is just a capra ... Yes, and the squadron of the 2-3 brigades included 10-12 submarines each. in each, or even more ...
      Quote: g1v2
      there was infa about plans to leave two Lada under construction in the Baltic. They there would be more appropriate in their dimensions and secrecy.
      It was infa, and it has never been denied that all three 677 will serve in the North, reliably guarding Motovsky Bay and the adjacent waters from Elks and Virgins. Excuse me, I never heard another. Maybe OBS? So "you can't put a handkerchief on a ganny mouth" (c). Well, let's see, however. bully
      1. +3
        17 August 2018 17: 01
        Well, Middle-earth still belongs to the zone of responsibility of the Black Sea Fleet. From the north, help is sent pointwise when it is urgently needed there and then taken away. For example, when the Battle of Aleppo was going on, Kuzya and Petya and the BPC were sent to cover from the air and as a cure for stupidity. When the battle was won, the northerners went back. When the aggravation with the Turks was on the verge of war, they even drove Varyag with the Pacific Fleet. But these are concrete cases of exacerbation when weighty arguments are urgently needed. And so providing and support leads the Black Sea Fleet. Just now, the top volley with two rooks has left for Middle-earth. I meant the whole area of ​​responsibility of the Black Sea Fleet, and not just the Black Sea. Plus, do not forget that we have two hostile countries on our side, the use of the fleet against which is more likely than the conflict in the Middle East - Georgia and Ukraine. request
        Well, we don’t have pennants like in Soviet times, which is a moot point. Everything is ordered from us now in sixes, which, in my opinion, is more convenient to indicate with a squadron. Although, in principle, kapraz does not pull on the comasque. I agree.
        They talked about Lada last year in several interviews. And the naval and representatives of the VPK. The fact that there are plans to keep all three frets in the Baltic. As I understand it, not far from the manufacturer. request
        By the way, the Admiralty shipyards, which are building diesel-electric submarines, are now rapidly recruiting staff. Turners, milling machines, electricians, body builders, etc. I suspect they are preparing for serious orders. hi
  7. +2
    14 August 2018 14: 26
    Today in the Russian Federation not a single fleet is fully equipped, although the bravura reports by Shoigu have been given in the ears of the electorate for what year.

    And while the IMF rules the country's financial system, it will always be that way.
    1. -2
      14 August 2018 17: 10
      Quote: Apollo
      And while the IMF rules the country's financial system

      belay so who forces you to take loans there ????
  8. +2
    14 August 2018 17: 21
    It seems to me that there are no specialists on the Black Sea who can bring the long-suffering "Alrosa" to mind. And in St. Petersburg there are still factories and specialists at those factories. In the press and on the Internet it was in 2017 that it would remain purely torpedo on the Black Sea. In St. Petersburg, I really hope, they will teach Alrosa to shoot Club-S, for the Baltic it will be enough.
    I would like to hope that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation will stop cutting taxpayers' money on different crap, such as a new parade uniform for the Navy, and departmental medals like: "300 years of the Baltic Fleet", "For participation in the parade in honor of the 70th anniversary of Victory in the Great Patriotic War", "For participation in the Victory Day parade", "For participation in the Main Naval Parade". Yes, there was still an abomination until December last year, forgive the moderators, I can't find a softer word when the medal of the RF Ministry of Defense "Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union S.G. Gorshkov", which was awarded for testing new technology, was awarded to the right-flank and standard-bearers at the parade in honor of 60 Victory anniversary. Apparently, from the Priarbat military district one can see work under the ice of the Arctic and the parade on Red Square in terms of the level of risk ... Yes, and some of our naval sailors began to look like either the generals of the DPRK, or "Dear Leonid Ilyich" after 1980 year. The layman does not understand whether a participant in three parades is walking, or the one who sent the "Bulava" from the North Pole to a peg on the Kura.
  9. 0
    14 August 2018 22: 17
    Quote: Tiksi-3
    all the more so because at the World Cup there are not 6, but 4 boats in total ... 2 are assigned to Tartus and their passage to the World Cup may turn out in one direction - the Turks may not let them back into the Mediterranean Sea,

    Why did it happen?
    1. -1
      15 August 2018 09: 34
      Quote: Old26
      Why did it happen?

      as the owners of the straits are entitled, read learn
  10. 0
    15 August 2018 11: 33
    Quote: Tiksi-3
    Quote: Apollo
    And while the IMF rules the country's financial system

    belay so who forces you to take loans there ????

    Created in the early 90s and existing in Russia to this day, the economic model is built on Western lending.
  11. 0
    18 August 2018 15: 21
    According to the State Armaments Program for 2007-2015. planned construction of 5 SSBN pr.955. by 2020, the country's navy will receive 8 Borey SSBNs. Where is "BORI" - ZIN ?????

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