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Il plans to upgrade Ruslan

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The IL company intends to create an upgraded version of the An-2022-124М transport aircraft by 100, reports TASS.

Il plans to upgrade Ruslan


According to information published on the procurement website, the implementation of the component of the ROC includes the re-equipment of the An-124 Military Transport aviation in the form of An-124-100M, airfield support and testing.

The work was entrusted to Aviastar SP as the sole supplier of this service. The maximum contract value is defined in 3,5 billion rubles. The completion date is December 2021.

In turn, by the end of this year, Crystal Design Bureau should replace the electrically conductive centrifugal pumps of the aircraft with domestic analogues. The cost of work is estimated at 33 million rubles.

And Tekhnodinamika holding was instructed to replace the imported pumping stations and An-124-100 units. 18,6 million rubles is allocated for these purposes.

In addition, measures are planned to extend the life of the aircraft.

PJSC "Il" will also spend about 34 million rubles on the preparation of Ulyanovsk Aviastar for the production of promising transport IL-276 (SVTS).

Recall IL-276 is being developed to replace the An-12 transport aircraft in the army. His first flight is scheduled for 2023 year.
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Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
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  1. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 10 August 2018 15: 53
    -6
    But will not the attempt to modernize look like an unlawful interference, and will the plane not close the certificate? He is nominally still a Ukrainian brand!
    1. tanit
      tanit 10 August 2018 16: 07
      +3
      Quote: ANCIENT
      He is nominally still a Ukrainian brand!

      Why? KB during the USSR was on the territory of the Ukrainian SSR? Is that all?
      1. tanit
        tanit 10 August 2018 16: 12
        +2
        Rights - and "Wishlist" of Ukraine, these are still different things. And so ... So, yes. Even in the Black Sea - they have a "legal right". Documentation, again from Soviet times, is available on the territory of the Russian Federation. experience of release - there is also.
    2. Kurare
      Kurare 10 August 2018 16: 08
      +6
      Examples of such modernization, without the permission of the Ukrainian side, are: TVS-2MS. Most of the An-124 was still produced in Russia.
      1. tanit
        tanit 10 August 2018 16: 22
        +3
        In Ulyanovsk.
        1. igorbrsv
          igorbrsv 10 August 2018 17: 11
          +3
          It is strange why you have been denied my assessment. Aviastar-SP is located in Ulyanovsk. Only here is it possible to upgrade such an aircraft
          1. igorbrsv
            igorbrsv 10 August 2018 18: 28
            -2
            I don't understand anything. Now everyone will press "-" without explaining to the person what he is wrong about ?! By the way, the name of the enterprise is incorrect - it is correct "Aviastar-SP"
            1. tanit
              tanit 10 August 2018 18: 34
              -1
              For the denial of the process of defecation of all polymers, as in this case. laughing
              1. Simargl
                Simargl 10 August 2018 21: 13
                -1
                This is still the adherents of the lunar conspiracy in relevant topics did not rave
    3. Chichikov
      Chichikov 10 August 2018 16: 12
      +8
      Lawyers in this area know better and if there is a decision, then it has a basis. As for the "brand", in my opinion, the aircraft was created in the USSR, and Russia, according to international agreements, is its only successor. The Euro invaders, at one time, captured America, but they are not the creators of the Mayan calendar or drawings in the Nazca desert, although they use this heritage as a "brand" of America. So the ukroshumers, abandoned the communist heritage, let them switch to their "brand" - oxen with carts!
      1. Professor
        Professor 10 August 2018 16: 25
        -20
        Quote: Chichikov
        As for the "brand", in my opinion, the aircraft was created in the USSR, and Russia, according to international treaties, is its only successor

        Dreamer you however. There are no such Treaties since the USSR has 15 "receivers". Learn materiel.
        1. tanit
          tanit 10 August 2018 16: 28
          +22
          The USSR has one receiver. The country that took over the debts of the USSR. What is there with the materiel?
          1. tanit
            tanit 10 August 2018 16: 29
            +5
            Let me tell you - not Israel. And not Ukraine. Yours faithfully hi
          2. Professor
            Professor 10 August 2018 21: 40
            -2
            Quote: tanit
            The USSR has one receiver. The country that took over the debts of the USSR. What is there with the materiel?

            Is this a new word in jurisprudence? My father, an officer who served in Soviet army more than 20 calendar - pays pension ... Israel... For those who do not understand, not Russia, but Israel. That is, in your opinion, Israel, having taken on the debts of the Soviet officer's pension, is now a "successor to the USSR"? fool

            Quote: NKT
            And what, all 15 republics are permanent members of the UN Security Council?

            Well? request What kind of connection?

            Quote: avt
            Professor - assignee of the USSR is the Russian Federation Russia. This is a legal fact.

            Is there a legal document confirming this "fact"? No? Maybe it's spelled out in the RF Constitution? Also no? So these are your Wishlist. "Legal receiver" does not sign an agreement (by the way, not everyone has signed up to now) on the division of debts and property, but simply inherits it all. Maybe on your territory the former Soviet republics rightfully passed not to them, but to the "legal successor"? Well, if 14 republics left the USSR, and Russia remained. But no. Russia was the first to destroy it. Thanks to Yeltsin. good She did not leave any symbolism or constitution. Nothing. So learn the materiel. hi
            1. Achtaba1970
              Achtaba1970 11 August 2018 08: 08
              +4
              Russia pays pensions to everyone who wants it, but your father probably wanted an Israeli pension because it is bigger.
        2. NKT
          NKT 10 August 2018 16: 39
          +3
          And what, all 15 republics are permanent members of the UN Security Council?
        3. avt
          avt 10 August 2018 17: 20
          +6
          Quote: professor
          There are no such treaties as the USSR has 15 "receivers".

          Really
          Quote: professor
          Teach materiel.

          Professor - assignee of the USSR is the Russian Federation Russia. This is a legal fact. Even the US was in a hurry in the early 90's to formalize the legal process in the UN and the Security Council in particular with its veto. And here
          Quote: tanit
          Rights - and "Wishlist" of Ukraine, they are still different things.

          As for the An-124, they completely coincide - the owner and the main issuer of the type certificate for the 124th is the Antonov Design Bureau, and any changes to the design must be coordinated with it (for civilian versions, the operators are again civil). There are two ways - ransom with giblets, or alteration of an airplane under the Il brand, and the third option is the most dreary and difficult - to issue the left issuing certificate so that it would be recognized in civil air transportation.
          1. tanit
            tanit 10 August 2018 17: 51
            0
            except Volga-Dnepr, from civilians under the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation, someone else exploits? Who! Discover the secret. Sincerely. hi
            1. tanit
              tanit 10 August 2018 17: 52
              0
              The main operator is the RF Ministry of Defense, is not it?
              1. tanit
                tanit 10 August 2018 17: 53
                0
                Yes, and I’m asking about the Russian Federation. hi
            2. NKT
              NKT 10 August 2018 17: 55
              0
              Volga-Dnepr will buy cargo Boeing ....
              1. tanit
                tanit 10 August 2018 17: 57
                0
                Will not be. Are you betting?
              2. avt
                avt 10 August 2018 18: 09
                +1
                Quote: NKT
                Volga-Dnepr will buy cargo Boeing ....

                Quote: tanit
                Will not be. Are you betting?

                bully I do not advise - lose. Yes, they buy it - container flights with ramp airplanes are unprofitable. Only non-standard, heavy and oversized cargo, well, and military equipment.
                1. igorbrsv
                  igorbrsv 10 August 2018 18: 36
                  +2
                  You will laugh again at "has no analogues in the world", but it is. In principle, there is nothing to replace it with. The plane is unique. The company provides transportation services all over the world
                2. tanit
                  tanit 10 August 2018 18: 36
                  +1
                  Quote: avt
                  I do not advise - lose. Yes, they buy it - container flights with ramp airplanes are unprofitable. Only non-standard, heavy and oversized cargo, well, and military equipment.

                  But I still risk it. wink
                  1. tanit
                    tanit 10 August 2018 18: 45
                    +1
                    Quote: tanit
                    heavy and oversized loads


                    That is why. hi
                    1. tanit
                      tanit 10 August 2018 18: 47
                      +1
                      Only now, the grimaces of the site ... I wanted to insert your quote .. hi
                  2. avt
                    avt 10 August 2018 19: 48
                    0
                    Quote: tanit
                    But I still risk it.

                    Then ... send. Here's about the "daughter" of the "V-D" holding
                    The Boeing 747-8F is the newest double-deck wide-body cargo aircraft developed by Boeing. C AirBridgeCargo became the first airline in Russia to receive an aircraft of this type. The first landing of the liner in Moscow took place at Sheremetyevo airport, on February 5, 2012,
                    bully
                3. igorbrsv
                  igorbrsv 10 August 2018 18: 49
                  0
                  Here one should not confuse Volga-Dnepr (the airline), Aviastar-SP, the order executor, and the customer of the RF Ministry of Defense. The deadlines will have to be shifted, and more money will be allocated. There are no options. With a shift, but the plane will be, if the missing documentation is unearthed, or part is replaced
            3. avt
              avt 10 August 2018 18: 04
              -2
              Quote: tanit
              except Volga-Dnepr, from civilians under the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation, someone else exploits? Who! Discover the secret.

              Yes, not a secret, neither a gram, nor a muimeter. It was like "Flight", but now it seems it remains in the Russian Federation
              Quote: tanit
              Volga-Dnepr

              Quote: tanit
              The main operator is the RF Ministry of Defense, is not it?

              what Well, maybe right now they’ve gotten out of the parking lot, but it’s cooler
              Quote: tanit
              Volga-Dnepr

              Those who licked more and less “fresh” were not there. After all, the chief designer of the 124th, who had recently died, was working, and he knew what and how to take.
              1. tanit
                tanit 10 August 2018 18: 12
                +1
                Well, they fly like that, I see and meet quite often myself. Moreover, the army team-more often. hi
                1. tanit
                  tanit 10 August 2018 18: 14
                  +1
                  But the Volga-Dnepr - solidly so. hi
          2. igorbrsv
            igorbrsv 10 August 2018 17: 57
            +1
            I can’t say 100%, but it seems that we also have a patent. With components only strained. And apparently there is a loophole since it goes -100M index
            1. tanit
              tanit 10 August 2018 18: 40
              +1
              Eh, you don’t understand anything in polymers and financial flows .... laughing Are you apparently not a taxi driver? wink
              Do not be offended, I'm joking. Perhaps not well. hi
              1. tanit
                tanit 10 August 2018 18: 43
                0
                You are apparently not a taxi driver laughing
              2. igorbrsv
                igorbrsv 10 August 2018 19: 13
                0
                Are you not from AeroComposite?
      2. tanit
        tanit 10 August 2018 16: 27
        0
        Sumerians-Sumerians, Ukraine - by Ukraine. But, the Ukrainian side will not be able to prove in any court other than Ukrainian that it is right.
    4. Pajamas
      Pajamas 10 August 2018 17: 48
      +1
      Quote: ANCIENT
      -4
      But will not the attempt to modernize look like an unlawful interference, and will the plane not close the certificate? He is nominally still a Ukrainian brand!

      If for BTA then do not care certificate
      1. tanit
        tanit 10 August 2018 17: 58
        +1
        Exactly. For VTA and for "experimental airfields" - it is not needed.
        1. tanit
          tanit 10 August 2018 17: 59
          0
          Not to be confused with civil airports, please laughing
    5. venik
      venik 10 August 2018 18: 03
      0
      But will not the attempt to modernize look like an unlawful interference, and will the plane not close the certificate? He is nominally still a Ukrainian brand!
      ========
      NO!!! Will not be!!!
      An-124 "Ruslan" was created in the days of the USSR !!!
      And this means that VERY many developments (including "glider", "engines", "avionics", technologies, etc.) - ARE NOT Ukrainian "know-how" ......
      Essentially "Ruslan" - only COLLECTED in Ukraine .... And Produced IT - ALL Union !!!!
      1. tanit
        tanit 10 August 2018 18: 17
        +1
        Ulyanovsk.
      2. AID.S
        AID.S 11 August 2018 00: 49
        0
        Quote: venik
        NO!!! Will not be!!!
        An-124 "Ruslan" was created in the days of the USSR !!!
        And this means that VERY many developments (including "glider", "engines", "avionics", technologies, etc.) - ARE NOT Ukrainian "know-how" ......
        Essentially "Ruslan" - only COLLECTED in Ukraine .... And Produced IT - THE WHOLE Union !!!!

        What a confusion. Skill and knowledge of how to make watch parts does not mean that watches assembled from these parts in Konotop will be called and sold worldwide as made in Switzerland. Without the permission of the Swiss manufacturers. Although, perhaps, if it is possible to register the name as "Swiss" in Konotop and then prove in court that this is a watch for doorman ...
    6. fa2998
      fa2998 11 August 2018 06: 52
      0
      Quote: ANCIENT
      But will not the attempt to modernize look like an unlawful interference, and will the plane not close the certificate? He is nominally still a Ukrainian brand!

      But the Americans sold the F-14 to Iran, do what you want with them! Despite the hostile relations of the powers, the Americans are silent about their copyrights! wassat hi
    7. Normal ok
      Normal ok 11 August 2018 14: 07
      -1
      Quote: ANCIENT
      But will not the attempt to modernize look like an unlawful interference, and will the plane not close the certificate? He is nominally still a Ukrainian brand!

      It is significant that any real remark is minus. My respect to you. These aircraft will be possible to operate only in the Russian Federation.
    8. Ivan Ivanov
      Ivan Ivanov 12 August 2018 10: 05
      0
      Quote: ANCIENT
      But will not the attempt to modernize look like an unlawful interference, and will the plane not close the certificate?

      It is necessary to send hard and away, as the states do, there are no other options.
  2. mlad
    mlad 10 August 2018 16: 08
    0
    and then there are no options.
  3. BAI
    BAI 10 August 2018 16: 09
    +2
    And where to get the engines? There are no analogues!
    1. tanit
      tanit 10 August 2018 16: 20
      +1
      Well, by 2019, do not have time - obviously. Although, the task was such.
    2. venik
      venik 10 August 2018 18: 11
      0
      Quote: BAI
      And where to get the engines? There are no analogues!

      =======
      But then there is KB "Kuznetsova", and many others .......
  4. san4es
    san4es 10 August 2018 16: 33
    +2
    Il company intends to create an upgraded version of the An-2022-124M transport aircraft by 100

    hi ... Video upload test.
    1. tanit
      tanit 10 August 2018 16: 41
      0
      And the engines ... Well, it - anything can happen. The last launch of Zenit from the Russian Baikonur took place on December 26, 2017. "Death to curds" was already in full swing.
      1. tanit
        tanit 10 August 2018 17: 06
        0
        Ask - why am I? I will answer. There were problems. The launch was postponed more than once. But - it did take place. The same with engines for "Ruslan" - we bet they will be? wink
        1. Ivan Ivanov
          Ivan Ivanov 12 August 2018 10: 15
          0
          Quote: tanit
          The same with engines for "Ruslan" - we bet they will be?

          Yes, recently there was a plot, like some engines are preparing, let's see.
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  5. igorbrsv
    igorbrsv 10 August 2018 16: 59
    0
    Will it still be a life-extension upgrade or an upgraded aircraft model? In terms of the release of new ones is supposed? Aviastar-SP has a bad reputation for fulfilling orders, but they are the only ones who can be entrusted with such an order. I don’t even know whether to be happy now or not
  6. Naughty
    Naughty 10 August 2018 17: 01
    0
    It would be nice if all of this came true in real life. And there were no empty words. There are already a lot of them.
    1. tanit
      tanit 10 August 2018 18: 03
      0
      Of which there are already a lot

      For example? wink
  7. Ros 56
    Ros 56 10 August 2018 17: 02
    +2
    Well, how much can you chew one and the same, will not. That's when they start, then you can discuss.
  8. Apollo
    Apollo 10 August 2018 17: 04
    0
    A very adventurous and extremely expensive project, the implementation of which will take decades and at least 10-15 billion dollars. As for the project payback, you can forget about it. There is not even an engine, which will require at least 10 years ..
    Remembering that if at the first stage the cost of building the Crimean bridge was estimated at 50 billion rubles, then in the end the price increased 5 times !!! So it goes...
    1. tanit
      tanit 10 August 2018 18: 06
      -1
      We all will die. Right? So it goes...laughing
  9. Revival
    Revival 10 August 2018 17: 08
    +1
    Sorry for the abstract question, does the VO application not work for everyone, or just me?
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 10 August 2018 17: 52
      +1
      The site itself works very poorly even after modernization
  10. Apollo
    Apollo 10 August 2018 17: 59
    +1
    I drew attention once again to the title of the article. It is not correct. Realizing the probable future problems with the upgraded aircraft, Il will not modernize Ruslan, he can copy it, introduce a number of innovations into the design and launch it on the market under his own brand, which is actually conceived. Many do this. Time for this will take, as I already wrote, more than one decade.
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 10 August 2018 19: 04
      0
      Quite right. Only "IL" acts as a customer (in the main part). They will do it much faster, but maybe not by 22
  11. Apollo
    Apollo 10 August 2018 18: 00
    -2
    Quote: san4es
    Il company intends to create an upgraded version of the An-2022-124M transport aircraft by 100

    Stupidity, this will not be, because it is impossible. We’ve been fighting over engines for the Navy for a year, there are a lot of speeches, there are even more articles, and the result is zero.
    1. tanit
      tanit 10 August 2018 18: 49
      +1
      Do our aircraft fly on engines for the Navy? Ahem ...
      Quote: Apollo
      Stupidity
  12. Apollo
    Apollo 10 August 2018 19: 05
    0
    Quote: tanit
    Do our aircraft fly on engines for the Navy? Ahem ...
    Quote: Apollo
    Stupidity

    In Kazakhstan, everything is possible. So be it, if you so wish.
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 10 August 2018 19: 18
      +2
      Any flag can be set, but tanit is clearly in the know about what it says.
  13. Tomich3
    Tomich3 10 August 2018 20: 35
    +1
    in 2023? Well, that is, never, as well as with the S-57 and Armata
    1. AID.S
      AID.S 11 August 2018 11: 45
      0
      Quote: Tomic3
      in 2023? Well, that is never

      Will Nibiru fly in earlier?
  14. Old26
    Old26 11 August 2018 16: 52
    0
    Quote: tanit
    Quote: ANCIENT
    He is nominally still a Ukrainian brand!

    Why? KB during the USSR was on the territory of the Ukrainian SSR? Is that all?

    Yet the ANCIENT is right. This option is possible. Ukraine may simply either revoke the certificate for the extension of the service life or not issue it at all after the end of a certain period. The West, frankly speaking, does not care what and where was on the territory of which state, how this or that design bureau got there. For them "AN" is a Ukrainian brand. And in the absence of a certificate from the creator, the plane will simply not be allowed to western airports.

    Quote: Kurare
    Examples of such modernization, without the permission of the Ukrainian side, are: TVS-2MS. Most of the An-124 was still produced in Russia.

    This is of little concern to anyone. Author support is conducted by Antonov Design Bureau, which is located in KIEV. And do not care where and who produced it. The main thing is where the creators are ...

    Quote: Chichikov
    Lawyers in this area know better and if there is a decision, then it has a basis. As for the "brand", in my opinion, the aircraft was created in the USSR, and Russia, according to international agreements, is its only successor.

    This is solely your opinion. Based on this, we have the right to everything produced in the former republics of the USSR.? In particular, the same Minsk chassis, they were also produced in the USSR, and Russia, as you say, is the legal successor.
    That's just the succession applies
    1. To treaties concluded by the USSR
    2. To real estate and accounts abroad
    3. To debt obligations.
    AND EVERYTHING. No adherence to the intellectual property of KB located outside the Russian Federation. This applies to design bureau "Yuzhny", and "design bureau of Antonov", and SKB MZKT and everything else. But regarding the products of the Yuzhnoye design bureau, it is easier there. Their products are in mines and the refusal to extend the warranty period is critical only for us. But the plane created in the design bureau, which is located in / in Ukraine, may not take off on its flight to the west without extending the relevant documents. In Russia, he can fly until he turns blue, but abroad - figs you

    Quote: tanit
    The USSR has one receiver. The country that took over the debts of the USSR. What is there with the materiel?

    Do you know why Russia took this step? Because otherwise we would have to share all our assets with all countries - former republics of the USSR. That is, all our embassies would cease to belong to us individually, all accounts. And the gold reserves of the country (USSR) would also have to be divided by all. But this, I repeat, does not apply to the intellectual bureau proper, located in various republics

    Quote: tanit
    We all will die. Right? So it goes...laughing

    Is it necessary to die? Is it me about the phrase that got it on edge? But the comrade is right in writing that
    Quote: Apollo
    A very adventurous and extremely expensive project, the implementation of which will take decades and at least 10-15 billion dollars. As for the project payback, you can forget about it. There is not even an engine, which will require at least 10 years ..
    Remembering that if at the first stage the cost of building the Crimean bridge was estimated at 50 billion rubles, then in the end the price increased 5 times !!! So it goes...

    In reality, the project looks adventurous and quite expensive. No, of course you can replace something with those that we have at BTA. But since the replacements will be carried out without the approval of the Antonov Design Bureau, "these aircraft can only fly within Russia. Well, or within those states that were previously republics of the USSR. And these aircraft will no longer be able to fly to Europe. And to guarantee that there will be no such flights at all. - you can't

    Of course, we will be able to modernize the "tilki for sebe" and extend the service life for some time. So? We will not be able to recreate this project on our own, both for financial and technical reasons. And most importantly, there are no engines with the same thrust as the D-18T.
    Maybe it would be worth it not to scatter, but to intensify the IL-106 project so that in the future it does not depend on the whims of Ukraine itself?