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Three eights. Tbilisi regime fights "internal enemy"

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A speech by the Georgian president on the tenth anniversary of the “August war” sounded unexpectedly harsh.


According to a number of observers, the speech of the Georgian leader, delivered by 8 of August, clearly went beyond the usual protocol framework, and the revanchist notes were clearly heard in it.



It is clear that the subject itself seemed to suggest some kind of anti-Russian fabric from which Georgy Margvelashvili, despite his reputation as a cautious and prudent politician, could hardly shy away from the realities of the current political course pursued by Tbilisi, but here he was clearly overdone. And his speech was quite consonant with what is said in Kiev. There were also assurances of the speedy “victory over Russia” and that “Georgia will soon restore its territorial integrity by regaining control over the originally Georgian territories”. Made the president and excursion into history, declaring the “northern neighbor” of the everlasting hostility to the Georgian people, and that Russia has always been against the independence of Georgia, and since 90, after the collapse of the USSR, tried to “punish Georgia”, which it did in 2008 year, “ treacherously attacking the Georgian army. "

For what purpose does the Georgian president start playing the anti-Russian card again? Does he really intend to move by Saakashvili and make another attempt at aggression against Abkhazia and South Ossetia?



This is extremely difficult to assume: Margvelashvili and his team, despite their distinctly pro-Western orientation, are quite adequate and pragmatic, and so far have not shown suicidal tendencies. They are not going to fight with Russia (and aggression against Sukhum and Tskhinval will mean war with Moscow), and they need anti-Russian rhetoric exclusively for domestic consumption.

Let us explain: the European integration policy, consistently pursued by the current regime, proved, to put it mildly, not very successful. At least for the absolute majority of Georgians. She didn’t bring any promised “gingerbread” to them.

Soon after 2008, it became clear that Georgia was interested in the West exclusively as a springboard against Russia, and no one was torn by not only “carrying her suitcases”, but even taking her interests into account. Even the notorious “bezviz” does not inspire Georgians too much: they are not at all eager to be guest workers who are attached to their homeland, home, family and traditions.

At the same time, the main political partners of the current Georgian regime, the West and Turkey, among other things, impose on Georgia not only their own rules of the game, but also standards and even values.



So, if Islamization of Ajara and some other regions of Georgia is a factor in co-operation with Turkey, the West imposes “European values” on the Georgian people, including militant anti-Christianity and sodomy.

Three eights. Tbilisi regime fights "internal enemy"


And if those who are willing to pay such prices prevail among the country's political elite, the absolute majority of ordinary Georgians are extremely negative about both options, seeing in it a threat to the very existence of the Georgian nation. Legalization of marijuana, the imposition of "gay parades" and "civil partnership", as well as other requirements of Western partners or the Turkish Islamization of Ajara are clearly regarded here as a direct encroachment on the traditions and foundations of Georgian society, on its religion and culture.

At present, the Euro-skeptics movement is gaining momentum in Georgia, represented even in the country's parliament (the Alliance of Patriots of Georgia), as well as the nationalist movement (in particular, the Georgian March), which opposes Western "values", Islamization and migration.



The third opponent to the political course of the Georgian authorities is the most authoritative force in society - the Georgian Orthodox Church, which firmly stands for the protection of the spiritual and national traditions of the Georgian people, opposes the imposition of alien, European or Turkish standards.



Recall that the GOC is categorically opposed to the propaganda of debauchery and sodomy "in the spirit of advanced global trends."

This position of the church caused great irritation to Saakashvili, who surrounded himself with sectarians, atheists and outspoken Satanists.

Today, a fugitive ex-president has been declared by Tbilisi on a wanted list, but the power that replaced him is also unhappy with the GOC, which "inserts sticks in the wheels" of European integrators.



No joke, the Orthodox do not give a single "gay parade", which they demand from Tbilisi in Brussels and Washington.

Yes, and the “honeymoon” with Turkey is hampered by the GOC, categorically speaking against otushchivaniya and Islamization of Ajaria.

To top it off, the Georgian Orthodox Church today is becoming a gathering place and a pillar for European skeptics and all truly national Georgian forces, while remaining the highest spiritual authority for the Georgian people.

But that's not all. An increasing number of Georgians criticizing the current authorities are beginning to look towards Russia. And it’s not just the cultural, religious, and historical closeness of our peoples. The economic factor also works.

All that the Georgian manufacturers tried unsuccessfully to attach in the West could be realized in the North, after a truly huge Russian market reopened for Georgian goods in 2013.

It is here that the lion’s share of Georgian exports comes true, mainly agricultural products: wine, fruit. Thus, Russia retains leadership in the list of importing countries, where in just six months of last year more than 19,3 million bottles of wine were sent, which is 89% more than in January-June 2016 of the year, the Georgian National Wine Agency reports.



In addition to Russia, the top five countries included: China - 3,8 million bottles of wine (growth in 104%), Ukraine - 2,9 million bottles (growth in 30%), Poland - more than 1,2 million bottles (growth in 13%) and Kazakhstan - over 1,1 million bottles.

As we can see, the gap between Russia and other importers is colossal, and considerable efforts by Georgian politicians and businessmen to create other, alternative sales markets have not yet yielded any special results. The tourism business of Georgia is also largely maintained by the citizens of our country.

Based on this, a number of politicians in Georgia talked about the need to normalize relations with Moscow, urging them not to proceed from contradictions and mutual offenses, but to rely on what binds us together and unites.

Russia ceases to be a bugaboo in Georgia, while the Georgians themselves, communicating with the Russians, try to avoid discussing the events of August 2008.

Suffice it to say that Tbilisi dispersed about a year ago, throwing it with eggs and water bottles, a rally under the slogan “No to Russian fascism”, which was held by the “Freedom Movement - European Georgia”. Opponents of the rally were nationalists from the movement "Georgian March".

As we can see, the situation in Georgia is such that the regime and the course pursued by them risk completely losing the support of the people and being isolated.



And in order to prevent this, the authorities are increasing their anti-Russian propaganda, trying, speculating on the tragic events of the "August war", to "rally" the nation under their hand in the face of an "external enemy", and to declare everyone who opposes such a flow "internal agents of the Kremlin" and "internal enemies ”that impede the movement into a bright European future.



However, despite all these efforts, more and more people in the country come to the conclusion that the historically verified option that allows Georgians to remain Georgians, preserve their mentality, their faith, traditions and culture, is an alliance with Russia.

And its lack of alternativeness is beginning to be understood by a large part of Georgian society. Like the fact that Russophobia, chauvinism and anti-Russian orientation of Georgian politics are an order of the West imposed on the political elite that could lead the country to consequences even more tragic than the loss of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
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  1. solzh
    solzh 11 August 2018 06: 43
    +21
    Let's start with the fact that at the end of the 18th century the Georgian states, and Georgia was a fragmented country, themselves asked to be part of the Russian Empire. We have never had any hatred and hostility towards Georgia. Georgian princes were equated in the Russian Empire with a domestic aristocrat. We have always remembered and honored such immigrants from Georgia as Bagration, Stalin. At school we studied the outstanding classical Georgian work "The Knight in the Panther's Skin". So, all the arguments of the President of Georgia that we feel hostility towards our southern neighbor are insignificant.
    1. Kolxoz im Lenina
      Kolxoz im Lenina 11 August 2018 08: 18
      +1
      The third opponent to the political course of the Georgian authorities is the most authoritative force in society - the Georgian Orthodox Church, which firmly stands for the protection of the spiritual and national traditions of the Georgian people, opposes the imposition of alien, European or Turkish standards.

      It's all about this! Orthodoxy is the basis of Russia, as if "some tovaish" tried to destroy it
      Today the Church burned down in the north of Russia, a wooden one stood for a couple of centuries (after visiting foreign tourists ") As I understand it, the remaining churches, prayed for and ancient, will be burned and destroyed .. The Cathedral of Christ the Savior, built by oligarchs and murderers during the collapse of the USSR, will remain ..
      1. cariperpaint
        cariperpaint 11 August 2018 09: 23
        0
        Who to destroy? What to deduct? Which churches? What are you talking about?
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 11 August 2018 11: 05
      +6
      Quote: solzh
      We always remembered and honored such natives of Georgia as Bagration, Stalin.

      To be precise,Joseph DzhugashviliHe’s Koba, he is Stalin. And so everything is true, there are no reasons for settling accounts and hostility between the Russian and Georgian peoples, but there is a problem of the corrupt Georgian elite.
      1. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 12 August 2018 04: 09
        +5
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        And so everything is true, there are no reasons for settling accounts and hostility between the Russian and Georgian peoples, but there is a problem of the corrupt Georgian elite.

        and not that our peacekeepers and civilians died ??? negative negative the elite shot them or ordinary Georgians ??? fool fool fool
    3. Vladimir 5
      Vladimir 5 11 August 2018 13: 46
      -2
      So to make Georgia feel more of its "independence" under Western persuasion. Georgia is still maturing and dreaming of the "jelly shores" of Europe, let it dream more, historical events do not require haste, but for Georgia, on the contrary, will the ruling elites rely on the maintenance, this with the surnames "shvili all death changes like ... (Georgian surnames with the ending "shvili" indicate Jewish roots).
    4. Alber
      Alber 11 August 2018 15: 18
      +3
      Quote: solzh
      Let's start with the fact that at the end of the 18th century the Georgian states, and Georgia was a fragmented country, themselves asked to be part of the Russian Empire. We have never had any hatred and hostility towards Georgia. Georgian princes were equated in the Russian Empire with a domestic aristocrat. We have always remembered and honored such immigrants from Georgia as Bagration, Stalin. At school we studied the outstanding classical Georgian work "The Knight in the Panther's Skin". So, all the arguments of the President of Georgia that we feel hostility towards our southern neighbor are insignificant.


      The overwhelming majority of ordinary Georgian people are normal, friendly people.
      And for Russian people, Georgians are close in that they are mainly Orthodox people
    5. Megatron
      Megatron 11 August 2018 18: 57
      +3
      I don’t understand why we allow hahlyak and Georgian goods to our market? We feed Russophobes themselves!
      1. bessmertniy
        bessmertniy 14 August 2018 10: 38
        0
        These products are beneficial for us. And we feed this import not to corrupt politicians in Georgia and Ukraine, but to people in these countries who produce products that are in demand in our market. hi
  2. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 11 August 2018 07: 11
    +10
    = There were voiced assurances of a speedy “victory over Russia” and that “Georgia will soon restore its territorial integrity by regaining control of the original Georgian territories.” The president made an excursion into history, declaring that the “northern neighbor” was always hostile to the Georgian people, and that Russia had always been against Georgia’s independence, and since the 90s, after the collapse of the USSR, had tried to “punish Georgia”, which made in 2008, "treacherously attacking the Georgian army." =
    And after that, Russia also buys wine in Georgia? This is how much you need to respect yourself so as not to respond to such attacks? How to react? It is simple - to stop, immediately after such matches by the Georgian authorities, any trade with Georgia. And try to convey to the Georgian people what is the reason for such actions.
    Russia will never be respected until it respects itself.
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 11 August 2018 07: 32
      +6
      Quote: Krasnoyarsk
      How to react? It’s simple - to stop, immediately after such matches by the Georgian authorities,

      How to react? It’s simple - to stop, immediately after such matches by the Georgian authorities,

      then one blurted out to order in favor of phishington and that’s all? end to all connections? and nothing that those who trade with us and are friends think differently? shall we punish him by stopping trading?
      it is like striped sanctions, they want to punish GDP, it responds to the people of Russia.
      and read on how the PEOPLE of Georgia relate to all this. only normal relations begin to improve and destroy everything at once? but do not you think that it was precisely for this that was expressed? an order from behind a large puddle is precisely for this.
      Russia will never be respected until it respects itself.

      Yes, I do not care respects, or does not respect me, this person and his striped owners !!!!!
      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 11 August 2018 14: 21
        +3
        Quote: LSA57
        then one blurted out to order in favor of phishington and that’s all? end to all connections? and nothing that those who trade with us and are friends think differently? shall we punish him by stopping trading?

        Not "one blurted out", but the president of the state, and not "blurted out" in the kitchen, but announced in front of a large audience and on the occasion of a famous event.
        If your neighbor spits in your face and you silently rub yourself, remembering that you need to live together with a neighbor, then I understand your character - I’ll lie under anyone, if only peace, work, chewing gum!
        But if you give, as it should be, to his face in order to discourage him from repeating, and more than once, such antics, then I do not understand you - what is the difference?
        Having beaten off the head of a neighboring state, the desire to insult your country, you thereby increase the credibility of your country in the person of the people of a neighboring state. Then the trade will improve.
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 11 August 2018 15: 41
          +1
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          Not "one blurted out", but the president of the state, and not "blurted out" in the kitchen, but announced in front of a large audience and on the occasion of a famous event.

          the president? Petya’s city is even worse. you need to pay a lot of attention to it?
          If your neighbor spits in your face and you silently wipe yourself wrinkled,

          is it a spit? lyalyalya. do not read about this nonsense here I would not know that someone spat in the back.
          But if you give, as it should be, to his face in order to discourage him from repeating, and more than once, such antics, then I do not understand you - what is the difference?

          special forces send him to beat the face? laughing
          yes how many special forces do you need to beat Zhirik’s face laughing
          presidential candidate laughing
          Having beaten off the head of a neighboring state, the desire to insult your country, you thereby increase the credibility of your country in the person of the people of a neighboring state.

          Your suggestions how to close the puppet's mouth?
    2. Cube123
      Cube123 11 August 2018 07: 32
      +2
      Quote: Krasnoyarsk
      And after that, Russia also buys wine in Georgia? This is how much you need to respect yourself so as not to respond to such attacks?

      Do you offer to play on the side of the West? The task of the West is precisely to embroil Russia with all its neighbors as much as possible. Are you suggesting adding fuel to the fire so that it flares up more? It is trade ties that bring peoples closer together. And they need to be expanded as much as possible. And succumbing to provocations is NORMALLY not from a big mind. The simplest divorce in the style: "Are you weak?", And you already "have" to the fullest.
      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 11 August 2018 14: 26
        +1
        Quote: Cube123
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        And after that, Russia also buys wine in Georgia? This is how much you need to respect yourself so as not to respond to such attacks?

        Do you offer to play on the side of the West? The task of the West is precisely to embroil Russia with all its neighbors as much as possible. Are you suggesting adding fuel to the fire so that it flares up more? It is trade ties that bring peoples closer together. And they need to be expanded as much as possible. And succumbing to provocations is NORMALLY not from a big mind. The simplest divorce in the style: "Are you weak?", And you already "have" to the fullest.

        Read about my understanding of the situation above.
        1. Cube123
          Cube123 11 August 2018 14: 51
          -2
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk

          Read about my understanding of the situation above.

          Read. In my understanding - you are wrong. It’s easy to spoil relations, then it’s very difficult to establish them. The predictability of behavior in diplomacy is, in my opinion, an extreme degree of unprofessionalism. Your behavior begins to be easily calculated and it is easy for you to set up a trap. In each situation, you must first turn on your head and evaluate the situation as a whole. Patterned behavior is not good drinks And do not forget that there is public and non-public diplomacy. What is said publicly for the needs of the owners and what is said at the real negotiations in their circle almost never coincides.
      2. orphan 63
        orphan 63 11 August 2018 15: 12
        +3
        Again these songs about the good former magistrates and their poor Russophobic leadership, which they chose ?! You really don’t understand that by opening our huge Russian market for trading at arch-speculative prices for any goods from Georgia - wine, barge, agricultural products, we sponsor Russophobia, and even damage our producers and our own budget?
        For today, the rate of 10 GEL - 4 dollars. In Tbilisi, a bottle of Borjomi 0.33 costs 0,65 GEL, and in Moscow 80 rubles, that is 5 times more expensive!
        There, ordinary wine, such as Homemade, costs 1-1.5 GEL, and we have Georgian diasporas in Georgian cafes and restaurants selling it from 300 rubles and above.
        For bottled, more or less decent wine (popular only here since Soviet times), prices start from 12 - 15 GEL, depending on the manufacturer. And these are the prices for the same wine with discounts - from 600 rubles and for 1000 and above
        https://media.proshoper.ru/catalogs/2018/08/01/53660/2018-08-01_31_billa_raznoobrazie-vina-35.jpg
        1. Cube123
          Cube123 12 August 2018 19: 04
          +1
          Quote: Orphan 63
          You really don’t understand that by opening our huge Russian market for trading at arch-speculative prices for any goods from Georgia - wine, barge, agricultural products, we sponsor Russophobia, and even damage our producers and our own budget?
          For today, the rate of 10 GEL - 4 dollars. In Tbilisi, a bottle of Borjomi 0.33 costs 0,65 GEL, and in Moscow 80 rubles, that is 5 times more expensive!
          There, ordinary wine, such as Homemade, costs 1-1.5 GEL, and we have Georgian diasporas in Georgian cafes and restaurants selling it from 300 rubles and above.
          For bottled, more or less decent wine (popular only here since Soviet times), prices start from 12 - 15 GEL, depending on the manufacturer. And these are the prices for the same wine with discounts - from 600 rubles and for 1000 and above
          https://media.proshoper.ru/catalogs/2018/08/01/53660/2018-08-01_31_billa_raznoobrazie-vina-35.jpg

          I really don’t understand. Think it's expensive - just don't buy it. And how do these exorbitant prices differ from a complete ban on imports? What is the difference? Or do you think that you need to lower the prices of these pseudo-Georgian wines and all problems will be resolved by themselves? Why was all this tirade?
          1. orphan 63
            orphan 63 12 August 2018 21: 05
            +2
            Even if this wine and Borzhom cost 1 ruble, I will not buy them. Just as I don't buy Baltic sprats, Moldovan wine, Ukrainian sweets, etc. I have a long list of "nasty unnecessary" - my version of personal sanctions.
            In order to refresh the memory and clarify the brains of the population of all former Magistrates' independence, a set of tough economic measures is needed.
            1. Cube123
              Cube123 17 August 2018 12: 25
              0
              This is absolutely the right position.
              Quote: Orphan 63
              Even if this wine and Borzhom cost 1 ruble, I will not buy them. Just as I don't buy Baltic sprats, Moldovan wine, Ukrainian sweets, etc. I have a long list of "nasty unnecessary" - my version of personal sanctions.


              But this, in my opinion, is superfluous. "You can't be cute by force." A boycott of the population is quite enough.
              Quote: Orphan 63
              In order to refresh the memory and clarify the brains of the population of all former Magistrates' independence, a set of tough economic measures is needed.

  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 11 August 2018 07: 20
    +7
    ... revanchist notes sounded distinctly in it
    And this confirms a simple thesis - the business that has just begun must be carried through to the end. Probably all the same, it was necessary to get to Tbilisi without looking back to the west and completely deprive the Georgian army of warehouses with armaments and used equipment. After 10 years, the Georgian leadership again decided that their army could do anything.
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    2. LSA57
      LSA57 11 August 2018 07: 36
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Probably all the same, it was necessary to get to Tbilisi without looking back to the west and completely deprive the Georgian army of warehouses with armaments and used equipment.

      Was it ALL in Tbilisi?
    3. major147
      major147 11 August 2018 10: 42
      +5
      Quote: rotmistr60
      ... revanchist notes sounded distinctly in it
      And this confirms a simple thesis - the business that has just begun must be carried through to the end. Probably all the same, it was necessary to get to Tbilisi without looking back to the west and completely deprive the Georgian army of warehouses with armaments and used equipment. After 10 years, the Georgian leadership again decided that their army could do anything.

      On fig such "friends"! Everything is simple here. The "tit" of the West is not as sweet as they would like. They remember how they lived sticking to Russia. Here and again they dream of the past.
    4. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 11 August 2018 11: 27
      +2
      It made sense to go to Tiflis only if we had a pro-Russian "Government in exile", which could replace Mishiko the tie-man. Ultimately, everything depended on the political will of the Kremlin. But this does not guarantee anything either. During the Ukrainian events, we even had the ousted Ukrainian president, Yanukovych. But the march to Kiev in 2014 with the return of Yanyk did not take place, it all ended with the recognition of the legitimacy of the Kiev coup.
    5. Terenin
      Terenin 11 August 2018 14: 15
      +4
      Quote: rotmistr60
      And this confirms a simple thesis - the business that has just begun must be carried through to the end. Probably all the same, it was necessary to get to Tbilisi without looking back to the west and completely deprive the Georgian army of warehouses with armaments and used equipment. After 10 years, the Georgian leadership again decided that their army could do anything.

      Right. An example of the attitude of Japan to the United States. The stronger the military strike, the less revanchist thoughts.
  4. LSA57
    LSA57 11 August 2018 07: 24
    +1
    The president made an excursion into history, declaring the continuing hostility to the Georgian people

    Yes, when was it? belay
    Georgians have always been friends.
    how many times I was in Georgia on business trips I have never heard anything bad from them about Russia. very hospitable and kind people.
    came to us, the same thing
    1. Mr Credo
      Mr Credo 11 August 2018 20: 51
      +2
      But did you ask questions about Abkhazia and Ossetia? How do they feel about this? I asked and immediately got a storm. This is our land! Georgian! The Armenians will say the same about Karabakh. The reaction in both cases is very violent! Propaganda is a powerful thing! Although we were rubbed in the 80-90s that it was a relic and a wild invention of the USSR! But modern propaganda is much cooler than late Soviet propaganda!
  5. abrakadabre
    abrakadabre 11 August 2018 07: 30
    +9
    On the other hand:
    Germany for some reason must repent for aggression. Still.
    Japan seemed to repent for aggression there.
    In the opinion of everyone there <...> Russia should repent for everything in general. From the great Permian extinction to the present day.
    But proud Georgians are not. Also, all sorts of tricks are still voiced. Must repent. Pay compensation in Ossetia and Abkhazia. Invest money in the restoration of the destroyed.
    And then still make efforts to restore confidence.

    No, you need to work with them. Of course. But also to fulfill all of the above in full.

    And then, a lot of people were killed. Cynical, unarmed. And now "they are trying to avoid discussing the events of August 2008."
    No, really. Everyone should take a position for themselves and voice it. Otherwise, it means keeping a fig in your pocket.
    1. d ^ Amir
      d ^ Amir 11 August 2018 09: 07
      +6
      lifelong pensions to the families of the victims forgotten in addition to compensations and in general while there is a museum of occupation there is nothing to talk about with them
      1. Mr Credo
        Mr Credo 11 August 2018 20: 59
        0
        Well, why not what? What is there in their museum of occupation? They in the occupation in Kutaisi produced Colchis cars. National production! Armenians in Yerevan YERAZ. Balts dabbled in RAFikom. And these are all the consequences of the occupation! What did integration into the global economy give them today?
  6. Conductor
    Conductor 11 August 2018 07: 36
    +1
    Timid Georgians fled, Where did it come from?
    1. d ^ Amir
      d ^ Amir 11 August 2018 09: 08
      +5
      Lermontov "Demon"
    2. the villain
      the villain 11 August 2018 15: 38
      0
      Quote: Conductor
      Timid Georgians fled, Where did it come from?

      Onet fled from Tskhinval winked
  7. amateur2
    amateur2 11 August 2018 07: 37
    +8
    Under the USSR, Georgia was the "coolest" republic with the largest number of underground millionaires, thieves in law, Volga and even Mercedes per capita. And now, even tangerines, and they were taken away (Abkhazia). "Abydna, panymaish"
  8. Professor
    Professor 11 August 2018 07: 39
    -17
    Three eights. Tbilisi regime fights "internal enemy"

    Not "Three Eights", but "Russian-Georgian war".
    Not "Tbilisi regime", but "Government of Georgia"

    I did not read this agitation further. Already by name, the level of content is understandable. negative
    1. cariperpaint
      cariperpaint 11 August 2018 09: 28
      +8
      Three eights is a fairly well-established term that is understandable to everyone who is at least somehow familiar with the topic! Where is the agitation here? In my opinion it only seemed so to you.
      1. Professor
        Professor 11 August 2018 14: 10
        -3
        Quote: cariperpaint
        Three eights is a fairly well-established term that is understandable to everyone who is at least somehow familiar with the topic! Where is the agitation here? In my opinion it only seemed so to you.

        Where is the agitation?
        1. The war did not start on 8.8.8, but earlier. Not "Three Eights", but "Russian-Georgian war".
        2. Not the "Tbilisi regime", but "Government of Georgia".
        1. Mr Credo
          Mr Credo 11 August 2018 21: 03
          +1
          You might think in Israel full freedom of speech and there is no agitation and propaganda!
  9. parusnik
    parusnik 11 August 2018 07: 41
    +1
    As well as the fact that Russophobia, chauvinism and the anti-Russian orientation of Georgian politics are an order of the West
    ... Partly, and not without this, money for something must be received .. Such a policy has long been. To have a patron, so that they would not be "offended" ... One left, we will find another ... A small country has always had great ambitions. ...
    1. Mr Credo
      Mr Credo 11 August 2018 21: 11
      +1
      Well yes! Belgium, Netherlands, Luxenburg, Israel! Small countries of Russia do not seem to be small. But what about per capita income? Sakhalin is three times smaller than Israel. But Israel has weight, but Sakhalin does not. Holland. Well a microbe in comparison with our region or region. But what is the turnover! Question. Why do our regions and regions have no ambitions?
  10. Vlad Petrov
    Vlad Petrov 11 August 2018 08: 02
    +3
    To remain in power, the oligarchic structures in Georgia need Western support. In the east there will always be: a kagan, a prince, aha, an emir such is the culture of Asians and reality. A simple unarmed, unorganized people has always been and will be patient. So the Georgian authorities will never be with Russia. There will be NATO, gay parades, aggression, Russophobia in the media, etc.
    1. Mr Credo
      Mr Credo 11 August 2018 21: 18
      0
      Such a tsar, in such a year, presented his people to Russia! Who is stopping Russia from pursuing an independent policy today? Let the standard of living and the level of technology be higher than in the West, then everyone will dream of being integrated into the Russian World, and not into the Western. Russia is losing the race in technology and living standards. Who dreams attached to the weak or poor?
  11. kenig1
    kenig1 11 August 2018 08: 28
    +1
    Does he have a plain tie, or do they taste them?
  12. nnz226
    nnz226 11 August 2018 11: 53
    +4
    It is the Georgians who are beginning to look towards Russia. But should Russia look towards Georgia ??? Dealing with traitors is not a good undertaking, and we will not wait for repentance, and we will not believe this repentance ... And Georgia showed its treacherous character in 1918, and in 1988, and in 2008 - is it worth getting involved ??? So that again "horsemen" in caps-airfields in Moscow and other cities of the Russian Federation staggered ??? We have enough of our "proud sons of the Caucasus" ...
    1. Mr Credo
      Mr Credo 11 August 2018 21: 21
      0
      In 1917-18, the outskirts also abandoned Russia and fell in love with the Germans. What shall we do with the prodigal brothers?
  13. NyeMoNik70
    NyeMoNik70 11 August 2018 13: 46
    +1
    The less wine, churchkhela and nuts from Georgia, the less Russophobia there is in sunny Sakartvelo.
    Don't forget you are dealing with Semitic tribes. Level "crest - -". They did not import those thousands of savages who killed our peacekeepers and Ossetians from outer space.
  14. Ros 56
    Ros 56 11 August 2018 15: 06
    +2
    Gosh, don't make my slippers laugh. We will somehow live without the Georgian mulka, we will drink "Massandra" and "Abrau-Dyurso" and Dagestan cognac, and even our own good happens, let alone vodka. It is better to take smart books and read who and when saved Georgians from the Turks, talk to smart people from the clergy. In short, teach history to those who do not know it, it takes revenge on that and very cruelly.
    1. Mr Credo
      Mr Credo 11 August 2018 21: 24
      0
      What does smart books mean? Smart books have already enlightened the people in the late USSR. On the outskirts too. Do you think there are no smart books in Georgia?
  15. tezey
    tezey 11 August 2018 15: 33
    +1
    I have friends of Georgians. There are people living in Moscow. Engaged in car repair. These guys are real hard workers. Earn money with their hard daily work. And you understand that you still need to find a common language with the authorities so that you can work calmly. And what language is it and a hedgehog is understandable. Good guys. There are friends in Georgia itself. None of them have ever supported this radish of Saakashvili, and no one has ever talked about the fact that we don’t need to be friends and cooperate with Russia, but we need to keep a guide to Europe. For them, the events of 2008 were a tragedy of relations between Georgia and Russia, and the fact that we did not bear the negative on people is our great merit. In general, I want to say that the fucking Georgian politicians, no matter how hard they try, cannot destroy our popular brotherhood.
    1. Mr Credo
      Mr Credo 11 August 2018 21: 30
      -2
      Support. I also occasionally communicate with non-Russians. Adequate guys, hard workers. We would have much to learn from them. I have not seen a single non-Russian drunk pig. For this, they are a big plus!
    2. Dormidont
      Dormidont 13 August 2018 11: 18
      -1
      In Georgia itself, ssakashvila is considered almost a prophet, for, following the instructions of fascington, he began to pretend that he was taking care of the common people, undertaking 30 pieces of silver from the IMF (which by the way must now be given away) to repair roads, historical cents, etc. After that, the foolish plebs was ready, at his orders, to cut everyone in a row again. And to this day he is remembered with a drag on his eyes, calling the period of his reign nothing more than an "economic miracle". Didn't meet anyone there who considered him a criminal
  16. victorrat
    victorrat 11 August 2018 17: 30
    +3
    We did not feel hostility towards Georgia, as well as towards many countries that hate us. but looking at their strange policies, it becomes a pity that we are not adjacent to the Turks, who, if we had not defended the Georgians, would have been our neighbors. It is clear that someone gave our oligarchs a good hand and they were allowed to supply Georgian products to Russia. What are the principles when it smells of dough. Could Russia do without Georgia? Undoubtedly. Maybe it's time to comply with the principle of Newton’s third law? They openly call Russia an enemy, and our country shows its weakness and trades with insolent and scoundrels!
    1. Turkir
      Turkir 24 August 2018 18: 12
      0
      I recommend, if you haven’t read it yet, Epifantsev’s article "Was Georgia an ally of Russia?"
  17. Dormidont
    Dormidont 13 August 2018 11: 13
    0
    ... more and more residents of the country come to the conclusion that an alliance with Russia is a historically verified option that allows Georgians to remain Georgians, to preserve their mentality, their faith, traditions and culture.
    And such conclusions are being pushed by an empty stomach, because through the efforts of European integrators and other sodomites and Satanists, Georgia found itself in the outskirts of civilization
  18. Turkir
    Turkir 24 August 2018 18: 09
    0
    It is interesting that on the photo of the bottle with "Ojalshi" wine the inscription is not "Georgian wine", but "Rachin wine".
    Racha is one of the administrative districts of Georgia.
    As for the article, it is fair in the sense that Georgia is a country where traditions are strong and opposition to Western "innovations" is undoubtedly strong.