Russian experts have found the weak spot of the "impregnable" Telegram

Specialists of the Center for Studies of legitimacy and political protest developed a program that allows you to find out the telephone number of the user of the Telegram messenger, according to News.

This allows law enforcement authorities to identify the subscriber by requesting the necessary information from the carrier. Thus, Telegram, still considered an anonymous messenger, ceases to be such.

The developers called their program “Cryptoscan”, its details were not disclosed. The general principle of its operation is as follows: the program sends a request to the Telegram containing the user's nickname (“username”) and the application provides additional data, including the ID and phone number, as well as the “user” personal data.

According to experts, the de-anonymization of users provides law enforcement agencies with additional opportunities in identifying crimes and their perpetrators.

As a member of the Council for Interaction with Civil Society Institutions under the Chairman of the Federation Council Yevgeny Korchago, narcotic substances are actively distributed through the messenger: the criminals leave their “usernames” in public chats and offer to contact them personally. Previously, it was almost impossible to establish the data of the seller of the potion, the source said.

Recall, in April, the Tagansky Court of Moscow satisfied the lawsuit of Roskomnadzor and decided to block Telegram, because it refused to provide the law enforcement authorities with the keys to decipher the correspondence of users, as required by Russian laws. However, the blocking process is still ongoing.

Comments

[Thrall]

More like a throw in order to discredit the messenger.

[Blackmokona]

The criminals buy left sim cards without the slightest difficulty, not to mention the active use of stolen ones, thereby giving the phone number nothing.
And even if there is one with his SIM card, he can always say that unknown to him telegrams simply telegrammed into his phone.

[Sergey39]

Well, why such difficulties?
,, there would be a man, but there is an article "

[Irokez]

Quote: BlackMokona

thus the phone number does not give anything

But they did not try to track by the serial number of the cellular, software or mikruhi number which one. Simka is already the last century.

[Blackmokona]

So the phone is used only once when the messenger is activated, and then get rid of it. And the buyer then after a year
will tell you in a pre-trial detention center that I bought a phone on the ruins and remembers nothing

[sabotage]

Quote: BlackMokona

The criminals buy left sim cards without the slightest difficulty, not to mention the active use of stolen ones, thereby giving the phone number nothing.

Police officers are much more likely to use left sims.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

criminals only use "telegrams" like ...

[Semen1972]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

criminals only use "telegrams" like ...

With the eradication of the telegram, crime will be defeated (FSB of Russia)

[MPN]

There remain semaphore signals, as in the Navy, with flags, a searchlight ... a SIM card is not needed. We look forward to new advances in data transmission ...

[ancestors from Don]

Throw out your smartphone, give a neighbor a computer and never use the Internet, do plastic surgery, change your gender, change your residence permit and full name and you will become inaccessible to Russian specialists .

[Sanichsan]

but it is not exactly

[jjj]

Quote: ancestors from the Don

and you will become inaccessible to Russian specialists

And where do you get the DNA ...

[electrooleg]

Executive lamers comprehend the legal methods of combating terrorism. It turns out everything is possible without this headless spring.

[solzh]

Quote: Thrall

More like a throw in order to discredit the messenger.

Not sure. For example, my friends and I, we use WhatsApp ... About 10% of all my friends used a telegram ... So I don’t see discredit in this ... Somehow ...

[Nosferatu]

It seems that in law enforcement special services and lawmakers we are working with impassable and_d_i_o_t_y (athletes, directors, etc. (underline what is necessary)). For starters, they would consult with IT specialists about end-to-end encryption. And then they lagged behind the telegram and buried a spring package (with a capital letter - specially - did not deserve it).

[CentDo]

They know very well what end-to-end encryption is. And they probably demanded not the notorious "keys", but that Telegram introduced some backdoor and merged the Old. Like Skype merged it into the NSA, although it also seemed to have end-to-end encryption there.

[bk316]

And most likely they demanded not the notorious "keys", but for Telegram to introduce some backdoor and merge the info

Bingo! If you carefully read the press releases, that’s what it says (the key phrase is “refuse to cooperate”). But simpletons who consider themselves know-it-alls (like Nosferatu) do not notice it.

[Nosferatu]

I notice more than you want, Dear. But in order to draw attention to the problem of "simpletons" like you - you need to specify the original problem. Incompetence of higher authorities.

[bk316]

So you troll me?

[Nosferatu]

Not. I'm telling the truth. You will not argue with either the first or the second statement?

[CentDo]

And what is the incompetence of higher authorities? By the way, what kind of organs are we talking about?

[Sanichsan]

Quote: CentDo

Like Skype merged it into the NSA, although it also seemed to have end-to-end encryption there.

and the cart isn’t? does not drain? despite the fact that they solved the issue with the Yankees and where do they have servers? not a campaign in Russia.

[CentDo]

And who said that they nowhere Old is not drained? The conflict arose because of that. that they do not want to merge info our bodies. And the fact that the same NSA may well read them I do not argue.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: CentDo

And who said that they don’t drain the info anywhere? The conflict arose because of that. that they do not want to merge the information to our bodies.

Yes sir
It is for this reason that the lamentations of durophiles (Durov's fan club) look especially touching

[bk316]

to start, we consulted with IT specialists what end-to-end encryption is.

And it’s found that they put such pluses ....

[Stirbjorn]

I set for example, because Alex wrote everything correctly

[CentDo]

What exactly did he write correctly? What are the impenetrable choppers working in our bodies? Do you yourself believe that there are no experts who know about end-to-end encryption? What exactly they wanted from telegrams I wrote above (I do not pretend to the truth, but I cannot see other options). But you can continue to believe in fairy tales about the terribly stupid FSBeshnikov.

[forty-eighth]

Some questions arise. In particular, why then do we have such idiotic legislation? Why are telegrams restricted "for refusing to transmit encryption keys"? Again, customize the article under the guilty? Why not bring the legislation in line with common sense and normally demand the introduction of intermediary software in telegrams, rather than trying to pull an owl on the globe?

[CentDo]

Why are telegrams restricted "for refusing to transmit encryption keys"?

Because limiting for refusing to implement spyware would be too much.

Why not bring the legislation in line with common sense and normally demand the introduction of intermediary software in telegrams, rather than trying to pull an owl on the globe?

Because such a law would violate the Constitution (Article 23 if not mistaken). The requirement of our bodies for telegrams violates it anyway (in any case, in my opinion), but there is at least some justification (of course it is far-fetched, but still).

[purple]

Quote: Stirbjorn

I set for example, because Alex wrote everything correctly

I will say this, competent bodies in the bodies ... and if somewhere there are not enough competencies, then those who have such competencies take up the eggs. Thus, the competencies of the authorities appear.
This is me to ensure that there are no false illusions. But given the specifics of the FSB and the stupidly selfish interest in which this whole office is saturated, from the outside it may seem yes .... our bodies are incompetent ....

[Kelwin]

And why bother burning ourselves, interestingly. Well done, use it silently, and so this hole will be quickly fixed tomorrow.

[ancestors from Don]

Hmm, reminds Kaspersky Lab, don’t you find it strange that most programs of this type do not find threats, and these clever guys at once dismantle the infection. Can someone from this laboratory come up with this? Well, such a vile little thought creeps in.

[Kelwin]

Yes, it’s unlikely ..., in the sense that they can technically be sure, just why, if the malicious code is written in tons by itself. But what is considered a “threat” is the business of every company, keygen, for example, is a thing that violates the law, a tool for obtaining illegal access, is it a threat or not?) Casper is connected to the American market, therefore it is not surprising that everyone uses it in its base all right holders ...

[voyaka uh]

Not only with you. It flashed in the press that Kaspersky himself introduced viruses and himself triumphantly and detected them.

[Golovan Jack]

Warrior fat

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

it would be better if the "ear" was banned

[mashinist]

and now how to buy weed？ while our laws change how many people will suffer, damn it

[GibSoN]

How many people who do not see reality .. No one needed this telegram initially! At least one of the goals of all the noise with him is the ability to block a bunch of different holes that are unnecessary and even harmful to the authorities .. Including Amazon servers, etc. .. Without any extra ships and other movements, the authorities simply blocked a bunch of different addresses, which she could not fully control. And this is only a small part of the iceberg.

[Loess]

Quote: GibSoN

No one needed this telegram initially!

Long before the hype with the telegram, this same telegram was filled with ads on the walls and sidewalks with offers of spice, mixtures and other rubbish.

[GibSoN]

Long before the hype

I don’t know what kind of hype there, I’m not interested .. apparently I don’t know about that, but here’s what, for example, in our organization, with completely Russian capital (as she herself likes to show off), how this telegram was used inside the company and continues to be used .. while a bunch of services either work barely or may not work at all at all. Even Java on a PC under Windows is not updated by everyone .. Well, that’s not the point, there’s no technical forum to discuss such things.

[forty-eighth]

So then they all unlocked. What is the purpose of this small iceberg?

[GibSoN]

So then they all unlocked. What is the purpose of this small iceberg?

I didn’t delve into the essence, since I don’t use a telegram, and all this fuss is of little interest, but from what was personally noticed, after “everything was unlocked”, it all started to work at least worse. And it’s not at all clear whether everything was unlocked ?! In general, no one really hid that now at least the bulk of all traffic in the Russian Federation goes through the so-called data centers (data center). The fact that they were being built was known about 5 years ago (I know for sure about the presence of at least one in the Leningrad Region). Perhaps under the guise of it, they simply realized some additional processing, filtering, etc. algorithms. In general, I’m on the drum, I don’t even get into this. So, one of the options. But in any case, nothing is done just like that. Especially when it’s just that, it’s also worth some money.

[Dormidont]

What a sadness liberals

[voyaka uh]

Classic. Pavel Durov. In any country, they would be proud of the person who created such a great product. He would be the banner of true innovation.
Russia: expel the author, prohibit the product.

[Golovan Jack]

Tolsto, Voyaka

[voyaka uh]

What to do. I was amazed when the attack on VK and telegram started.
Actually, Yandex, Kaspersky and these applications are all the achievements of Russia in IT. Not so much. Such people are worth its weight in gold.

[Sanichsan]

Have you read Mascology? Or does he still believe that Mask-Durov will come, give you technology, and then you can finally heal?

[voyaka uh]

If Musk worked for us, it would be a gift from heaven. Although we ourselves endow with technology (for cash) ) the whole world.
Pavel Durov would have been happy to accept, although it is clear that he has more opportunities in Silicon Valley.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: voyaka uh

If Musk worked for us, it would be a gift from heaven. Although we ourselves endow with technology (in cash) the whole world.

that is, you have not read. well, your business

[voyaka uh]

I read that yesterday Mask successfully launched into space the used Falcon-9 Block 5 with an Indonesian satellite. The same Falcon successfully sent the Bangladesh satellite into orbit a month before. Read such news, not waste paper.

[Antokha]

Crush this nits guys.

[akribos]

That will be at the end of the presidential term. Every Russian fsbshnikom in the bedroom. In general, the Russian people are stupid and incompetent, so the general elections must be tamed, special smart people will choose the president. The Russians need to take away their passports and send them to do import substitution in the villages (under Khrushchev, it was the same under Polpot), and rest there in the hayloft near the pond, the most dairy ones will get a ticket to Tuapse (to wash in the sea, breathe in oil). Sorry for Snowden, it is not clear what he wanted to show the world, we in Russians even support similar actions of our leadership. Sincerely.

[ppgt90]

Kind! With such thoughts, immediately to the hospital and later. What is needed, what nonsense you have in the remnants of the brain. Why do you need a fsbeshnik in the bedroom? Himself already in no way? Well then invite a neighbor, he can handle it. After all, we have impotent people, otherwise the FSB officer.

[oh how]

with this telegram ... but it’s impossible to recruit / buy / blackmail a technician quietly, let everything work, and infa should be merged. The current security officers cannot ban me from a campaign larger than the free movie.

[Lexeus]

There is so much noise from behind the cart, well, empty-headed skimmers, like woodpeckers in the morning of the night before, are ready to poke on the phone and talk about what their life is "nothing," but the rest is ........

[victorrat]

It is necessary to close the Telegram with the corrupt Durov! Roskomnadzor exceeded its authority, and why then do we have the FSB?

[Comrade Kim]

Quote: Thrall

More like a throw in order to discredit the messenger.

And what do you think he (tlg) so untouchable?
The holes in the telegram are of exactly the same order as wapp and viber.
Well, the pseudo author himself tlg causes only a feeling of loathing:

[ppgt90]

I don't understand people who can no longer live without instant messengers. When people can't get out of social networks, this is already a diagnosis. In our family and in the families of our friends and acquaintances, registration in messengers is a sign of mental disorders. We love live communication and do it with pleasure, it is really great when people gather who have a common interest, education and upbringing. We do not need to report to the whole world every step we take and receive dubious "likes". The word is like a dog barking. And if I or someone else from our circle needs advice or approval, or vice versa, not the approval of our actions by friends, then we do not need to find out this fact in the vastness of the network like "in secret to the whole world." We can always get together and either give advice on how to be in a given situation, or we will take direct action in solving any situation, unless, of course, one of us makes such a request for help. And most importantly, none of us will spread gossip about this to all and sundry. Private life is a purely personal matter, and turning it inside out in front of just anyone is catastrophic nonsense.