About women behind the wheel

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Yes, many at once, probably, numerous sayings emerged in my head, telling that a woman is driving ... And so on. Although many ladies and madam quite well behave, driving a car. And the number of frankly living on Lavrov among the male part of our population is quite large. Enough to visit the relevant sections of the Internet.



But since we have a military review, I’m talking about a woman at the wheel. Being impressed by what I saw at the 2018 Army Games in the ABT Masters competition.

I do not know where the letter "B" is in the competition, since, having already been to four, I did not see anything armored there. But there is enough car.

This year we visited the competition for one reason only. Participation of the women's national team from Russia. This aroused interest, since the competition itself, to put it mildly, does not shine with novelty and a large number of participants. In general, this disassembly of Russia and China. Who is cooler. The rest are from the “who will be the third” series. It is a pity that the Belarusians and the Kazakhs stopped coming, they somehow diversified the general gloom of the competition.

And now - the women's team, which has already become the fifth participant. The sixth was the DOSAAF team, which was out of competition and did not claim anything.

For the first time in the reporter, chased after girls. But I caught it ...








Anastasia - a truck driver with a trawl. It is not a female model, even in the army.







Yes, in addition to the four participants, the team still had one representative of our half. Trawler. The crew of a trawl transporter should consist of two people, because in the process of completing tasks it is necessary to hook / unhook the trawl, which for women is still not quite logical work.

In general, the competition this year has caused a lot of thoughts, and I will definitely share them. But later. Now we are talking about how generally it is appropriate for a woman to perform her driving duties. This is not about the "Patriots", but about quite a KamAZ. Yes, today in the army somewhere there are already trucks with an automatic transmission. And somewhere not.

Specifically, at the competition, truck tractors with trawls were with automatic transmissions. Cars 4х4 and 6х6 were on the mechanics. Like this…







What can I say after watching the first day of the program? And impressive. Actually, avtoledi quietly left behind the DOSAAF team and the Egyptian team. But the Egyptians are no rivals to anyone but themselves. But with the Venezuelans, who have come for the third year in a row, we quite argued for third place. And in a number of disciplines they even took the second. Results after some time can be on the site of games to see if anyone is interested.

The female manner of passing the track is noticeable, by the way. It will be softer, although the “dead ends” of the three-axis “KAMAZ” are quite inhibited. Up to smoke tires. It looks funny, if you understand who is in the cabin.

In the cockpit, by the way, are not the ones that “the galloping horse ...”. Still, a truck is not quite a horse, it's easier with it. Vacuum and hydraulic amplifiers and other wonders of today's technology.

But when the girls walked along the tracks, they all supported them. And not for nothing, because they got everything.















However, on the other hand, the question arises: seriously if we need it? If these contests are a sport, then of course, with a stretch, on the wave of the universal victory of feminism and gender equality ...



I do not mind feminists with their ideas, and I enjoy watching women's volleyball and other sports. But I am sure that women have nothing to do in rugby and hockey. Not for them sports.

Approximately the same feelings were at the competition. No, we performed very well. Worthy, on a par with the men. It was a pleasure that they could.

Yes, today in the modern army there is where to apply yourself to those ladies who want to serve. But one thing is communication and medicine, for example, or headquarters structures, and another thing is the chair of a truck driver. Big.

I can’t say that it inspires the idea that any of the participants once will be forced to freeze the nuts in the cold or in the rain and in the mud and change or repair something there. Competitions - it is clear, there is someone to do it. In everyday life ...

I can not decide: we need it?

What is your opinion?

P.S. But since this is so, then, of course, I wish the women's team a successful performance. You can move the guys from Venezuela, you can.
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  1. +15
    9 August 2018 05: 41
    I systematically assist women in replacing punctured wheels ... once it was KamAZ ... Since then, I have been against women behind the wheel ...
    1. +1
      9 August 2018 08: 04
      Quote: Vard
      in replacing punctured wheels ... once it was KamAZ ... Since then I’ve been against women behind the wheel ...

      KAMAZ military rides even with punctured tires laughing
      1. +3
        9 August 2018 16: 31
        I can’t say that it is encouraging to think that any of the participants will one day be forced to unscrew the nuts in the cold or in the rain and in the mud and change or repair something there.

        If there is a desire, let them serve.
        The situation when a woman in KamAZ is ONE and you need to change a broken wheel is unlikely. We are not talking about a trucker. It's about the army service.
        And a man doesn’t change wheels with his fingers. Neither horseradish nor anyone can change a wheel without a tool on KamAZ.
        And not every man can cope with the repair. And it is not a matter of strength, but of education.
        And tankers from the field do not manually roll out the tank in the event of a breakdown. Although the female tanker does not fit in my head. wink
        I think so.
        1. +4
          9 August 2018 22: 59
          You did not see how the KhTZ factory workers (women) performed on the T-64 UKS on the tank director ... that there were fighters - the generals were in shock))) belay
        2. 0
          13 August 2018 16: 42
          Once upon a time in Krasnaya Zvezda there was a publication: "Maresyev's sister" about a woman on prosthetics who fought on T34 in WWII
    2. -3
      9 August 2018 10: 36
      Women have other contests, such as how many men can be skipped through themselves per unit of time. It is not yet known how much easier it is to drive a KAMAZ. belay
      1. +10
        9 August 2018 10: 52
        THAT you have Oleg crisis of the genre.
        Fighting MODE is not in a hurry, are you interrupted by vulgarities?
        1. -3
          9 August 2018 14: 29
          Well yes. As they say, a pig will find dirt everywhere. lol
    3. -1
      10 August 2018 06: 12
      ... to whom the law has not been written ..., * a lady who is pleasant in all respects * may well call a techie on the phone ..., this is one of the tricks * to cut down the dog * ...
    4. 0
      14 August 2018 03: 05
      ... I really want to see how you will help a lady pull two KAMAZ wheels * that have run away * from the stocking of the bridge, coupled with a hub and a half shaft ... from the ditch or ravine ... - this is unforgettable ..
  2. +3
    9 August 2018 06: 50
    Female?!

    Driving a KAMAZ ?!

    She already needs a monument.
    1. +6
      9 August 2018 08: 53
      In life! good But the majority of women driving professionalism does not shine. request I recognize them from the back of the car without even seeing the driver. laughing
      1. Fox
        +4
        9 August 2018 09: 15
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        But the majority of women driving professionalism does not shine.

        at the VAZ, when I drove cars at the GC, we had an aunt, about 40 years old ... drove divinely. she was asked if she had her own car? she answered: yes, yes. but my husband drives in the city and on public roads, I’m behind the situation I do not have time to follow ...
        1. +2
          9 August 2018 09: 23
          Hi Zema! hi There are exceptions, I myself saw a couple of taxi drivers - they will give odds to most men. But the bulk is still .....
          1. Fox
            +3
            9 August 2018 09: 25
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            he saw a couple of taxi drivers

            Yes, I knew them ... basically, if you dream, you don’t brush off with an ax)))) and it’s so obscene ...)))
            1. +2
              9 August 2018 09: 27
              No, no, there was one such one - I would dream more often. laughing
        2. +2
          9 August 2018 17: 01
          My younger sister is driving an order of magnitude cooler than me
      2. 0
        9 August 2018 09: 49
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        bulk amount


        Overwhelming majority. I would say.

        hi
      3. +6
        9 August 2018 11: 13
        women behind the wheel are quite capable of driving well, but the problem is that most do not need it at all - someone drives frankly greyhound, like Baghdasaryan, someone just drives the way she wants, and not as the rules prescribe, there are such among men and even worse. But most women do not have a number of features - if necessary, a willingness to bend under circumstances and do as they have to and how much they will have, stress resistance (how many times I saw that they just throw the wheel and close their eyes or stupidly press the gas in the parking lot) and the way of thinking when you do so that everyone disperses quietly, an overly formal approach to the letter of the SDA without taking into account the decryption (they go to green, not allowing to complete the maneuver, park so that everyone dies, are distracted by their cell phone, mirror, girlfriend, emotions, blog entry, etc.) .
        This leads to the fact that they regularly perform actions that greatly interfere with others for no apparent reason. If most men are stupidly in a hurry or impudent or go around the pits, their motives and behavior are not always correct, at least predictably and they can see almost immediately what to expect, then here you are constantly waiting for something out of the blue, which is annoying.
        1. +1
          9 August 2018 11: 54
          "distracted by cell phone, mirror, girlfriend, emotions, blog entry, etc."
          Yeshe and distract us love
        2. 0
          13 August 2018 16: 55
          Once there was a publication that in France a certain lady came to take on the right and the police were stunned: she had driven the car since 1927, and only in 1968 she came to take on the right and for all the time there was not a single accident!
      4. +1
        9 August 2018 11: 51
        And in case of war, it’s better to erect a monument. Before driving KAMAZ will be.
  3. +5
    9 August 2018 06: 52
    I can not decide: we need it?
    And do not decide.
    I'm more interested in the question - why do they need IM? Drive KamAZ, pull the bar, go into the ring or into the octagon under the hooting of men with beer belly ... And?
    1. +1
      9 August 2018 08: 17
      Quote: sxfRipper
      I'm more interested in the question - why do they need IM?

      I think this is for those without a family. A married woman with children sits only behind the wheel of a car. And into the army, and behind the wheel of KAMAZ!
      1. +2
        9 August 2018 11: 00
        A married woman with children sits only behind the wheel of a car

        Well, I have a couple of acquaintances rally at the CCM level. I bet you didn’t even dream about driving on the ground. Well, yes, you often write baseless statements.
    2. 0
      9 August 2018 08: 54
      Quote: sxfRipper
      Huh?

      Leningrad has an actual clip - "Not Paris". Insert moderators will not be allowed. laughing
  4. +2
    9 August 2018 07: 59
    There are such women .... and thank God, thank God that there are few of them ...., not all men should rest on their laurels ....
    1. +5
      9 August 2018 09: 01
      There are such women .... and thank God, thank God that there are few of them .... not all men should rest on their laurels ..
      I completely agree. That’s when they (women) pulled out 100 kg each, thousands of wounded fighters on themselves from the battlefield (like “They fought for their homeland”), we think that’s normal. Well done, girls. Good luck. love
  5. 0
    9 August 2018 08: 00
    There are women in Russian villages ...
  6. +7
    9 August 2018 08: 27
    There are many reasons for the exclusion of women, if not from the army at all, then from potential participants in hostilities, both physiological and mental.

    In addition to the banal physical strength that is always needed in working with trucks, the driver must also serve them, mental stability in an environment where shells will burst around, is apparently unattainable for women. Guys, after millions of years of evolution, you can even grab a melee with cold steel, moreover, the practice of thousands of wars shows that mass grunt. In women, this is simply not flashed in BIOS. And before the battle, it's hard to verify. Who remembers how stupidly one of the anti-aircraft gunners perishes in “And the Dawns Here Are Quiet,” he will understand. About the same thing happened, in her own memory, with the only woman who was an American soldier who was captured by the Iraqis. As the shooting began, immediately panic.
    1. +1
      9 August 2018 17: 08
      As a person who once studied psychology, I’ll say that the difference in psychological thinking between a man and a woman is quite distinct. To be simpler - a man thinks logically, and a woman - emotionally. In a difficult combat environment, a woman's emotions will definitely prevail over logic and cold reason. So let men climb into battle better. And to drive cars in peacetime - for God's sake.
      1. +1
        10 August 2018 08: 06
        It’s you who didn’t come across women snipers ... and from the muzzle ... One such one kept me on guard for five hours ...
        1. 0
          13 August 2018 17: 15
          And are you still alive? Joke. Seriously, a woman with a sniper rifle is a terrible thing. They say that Lyudmila Pavlyuchenko had little to kill a German, and she tried to make him suffer
          1. 0
            14 August 2018 14: 44
            ... you might think that the Baltic states were very ceremonious when they took snipers in their hands - their death was fierce ..
  7. +7
    9 August 2018 08: 28
    I am of the opinion that there is no need to be a woman driving a Kamaz truck or carrying weapons. Communication and medicine are the most.
  8. BAI
    +1
    9 August 2018 09: 12
    So what? On a truck - better than in a trench with a gun. Many women are truckers. In our city, at one time, a girl of about 20 years old at Kmaz - 4310 dissected.
  9. +1
    9 August 2018 09: 49
    I support Roman in "that women have nothing to do in rugby and hockey." As in weightlifting. And I do not support feminism. Absolutely. The woman-keeper of the hearth, the inspirer for exploits and gender equality can not be in any way. We are different and we have different destinations. But to show that our girls can do something is a good idea. It will be an incentive for men to improve. good
    1. +1
      9 August 2018 11: 19
      many pervertly understand the word feminism. Feminism is only a struggle for equality where it should be natural, and not for equality in everything.
      For example, the right to dispose of money or to have a passport or to wear trousers or the right not to wear a hijab.
      But feminism is no longer fighting for the right to drive Kamaz or participate in boxing.
      1. +1
        9 August 2018 11: 40
        Quote: yehat

        many pervertly understand the word feminism. Feminism is only a struggle for equality where it should be natural, and not for equality in everything.

        What are you talking about? Do we infringe on women somewhere? Where are the perversions?
        1. +2
          9 August 2018 13: 10
          I am not talking about that. You just need to distinguish where feminism is and where excessively aggressive sexism is.
          For example, in our courts, in schools and kindergartens, overly aggressive female sexism, when the law and the rules are not equal between the sexes.
          1. +1
            9 August 2018 13: 12
            Here I agree. Even the term feminofascism appeared ... As an ideology.
      2. +1
        9 August 2018 12: 00
        Best of all, they are given to manage the money. Well, not everyone, of course
      3. 0
        10 August 2018 10: 25
        The goal of feminism is the destruction of the feminine hypostasis. It is naive to give this a "human face."
  10. 0
    9 August 2018 09: 51
    Turning nuts in the cold is not a female matter, I agree. However, "hunting is more than captivity."
  11. 0
    9 August 2018 10: 05
    as one character from one famous film said, “If a woman asks for something, then you must give it to her, otherwise she will take it herself”

    if the girls want to participate in the Army - let them participate - they want to drive KamAZ - let them drive, they want to drive a tank - let them drive
    there should be a highlight in the military cake - so let it be our military girls - all the more so as they fought worthily and their driving style was original, which Roman Skomorokhov confirmed in his article
    1. +1
      9 August 2018 11: 22
      If a woman asks for something

      this does not mean that she knows what she needs. And it’s worth clarifying.
  12. +3
    9 August 2018 11: 11
    E gentlemen, you confuse the average results with the results of prominent people.
    Yes, most women drive poorly, but those who like to drive and who devote a lot of time to it drive much better than the vast majority of men.
    For example, more than half of the peasants, according to my observations, start to whine if they are asked to drive more than 800-900 km without stopping. And of the remaining, more than half begin to drive inadequately after driving more than 900. Well, I'm not talking about stops for smoke breaks, bullets, etc. My wife easily rides 1000 to one wheel and 2500 to half.
    1. 0
      9 August 2018 12: 03
      At that time I would already be riding in the middle of the eyes laughing
      1. +3
        9 August 2018 12: 46
        This is the trick: it is proved that women perform better monotonous work, requiring constant attention. After a collision of 300000, driving along the highway becomes just such a job
        1. +1
          9 August 2018 13: 03
          in my opinion, you won’t be bored on the road - there are too many who are smoother, who need more, and across the oncoming lane and this constantly keeps them in good shape.
          1. +3
            9 August 2018 15: 23
            What is your experience and experience of traveling over distances of more than 1500 non-stop?
            Believe me, after 20 years and half a million kilometers, little on the road spurs me.
            And most importantly, if you are always in good shape from external stimuli, you can’t drive more than 1000 km at a time, you get tired of being morally tired. And if you are tired you need to get up to rest otherwise the trouble ...

            In fact, there are such peppers - they travel long distances on adrenaline, they are specially driven, but after 10 hours in this state they are generally inadequate.
            1. 0
              9 August 2018 15: 25
              for 50 km I get tired of shy of overtaking on the right and constant attempts to trim.
  13. +3
    9 August 2018 12: 01
    Me, in Rostov-on-Don (Pushkinskaya Semashko, who knows), the ladies nearly knocked down two times at the crossing. under a sign, and even with a child of 5 years, if 1 time apologized. supposedly she got on the phone. then the second one screamed like a sawmill, there it was diverging, you can’t see the food, without a twinge of conscience drove into her turnip. from the heart. By a fist of the Federal Penitentiary Service in the Rostov Region, the men turned away and didn’t see anything that ached. They told me, but nothing happened. The aunt fell down unsuccessfully.
  14. +1
    9 August 2018 12: 32
    Although there was another, in Eburg, I also switch to a zebra, the sign hangs, the Volga 31 almost knocked down, a MIRACLE got out, 190 cm somewhere, its face was red. kulachische. and so he overlaid me. from and to. I am 172. I can slam into a melon. but I don’t play here. sweeps away. OK . my local met. explained. what a zebra and sign. is not a fact . that you are right for a carrier. true year 2005 was.
    1. 0
      9 August 2018 13: 06
      dimensions do not matter. Once I got very angry when I almost got hit by a cruiser with armed brothers right on the zebra, marked both them and the car right in front of the central police station. The main thing is to feel that you are right.
      1. 0
        11 August 2018 13: 01
        Yes, you can light it up in a turnip, but given that people were clearly hungover, and such a Ural macho, I considered it possible and necessary to keep silent. Ladies like this happen, my friend in Rostov, Abkhaz, like that. not shallow. so is he. when his lady is drunk. and there is a daring Rostov woman. is silent and blows away. her "praises", but after. when the lady leaves. she doesn't feel comfortable. he doesn’t hit her. ... but morally snatches. what fear. Love, she is.
  15. +4
    9 August 2018 14: 19
    Quote: Vanek
    Female?!

    Driving a KAMAZ ?!

    She already needs a monument.

    ... my mother in the Second World War chauffeured on a gas generator - a little body floor of a little chunks, a bottle of gasoline (to start the engine) - she was 18 years old ... I had to steal gusmatic wheels at night from the storage of military equipment - NZ .., changed it by car .. , I had to drag a battery for 5 km .. I buried my mother .. It was a time of survival .. And when now as a feat it is presented that a woman is in the cabin of Kamaz ... Sorry, this is not even a feat ..
    1. +2
      9 August 2018 14: 54
      I have a beloved Grandmother, the stoker was in the war. then the driver’s help) I definitely won’t say it, I didn’t like to talk) there I met my grandfather and got acquainted, but in 1956 the mother was the heroine.
    2. +1
      10 August 2018 10: 42
      Now the “woman in the KAMAZ cabin” is often because another hired labor is laying railroad ties, a saleswoman in a stall, where there is one drunkard, which is also approved. And this is the best choice.
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  18. +1
    9 August 2018 16: 00
    The author is right. The Russian military driver - he is a mechanical driver in fact. Although his position is not called on a wheeled vehicle. This is a narrow moment. And then women can drive no worse than ours.
  19. 0
    9 August 2018 16: 08
    Again, recall the WUS of the current British monarch ...
  20. +3
    9 August 2018 16: 11
    Well, then we see that we have real equality. Let's remember the Great Patriotic War ... There are women snipers, there are women tankers, pilots are just silent ... There are signalmen-radio operators, doctors-sanitation by itself. But about women drivers silence. It would be a heroic profession. I just remember in the early 1970s they saw off the retirement of Veteran Labor, the driver of the timber truck along with the timber truck, in our Mezhleskhoz, we still read poetry in the Oktyabry, in the Nizhne-Kamensky branch. She worked on this ZiS-5 throughout the war, and exported the forest from the plots. Then after the war, she worked on the same ZiS. I remember how this ZiSok also stood in their fence when we went to Ordynka through Kamenka on various pioneering matters, but already in the 80s he was gone ... Therefore, a modern woman driving a KamAZ truck is tantamount to Nekrasovskaya ... stop the horse on a gallop, enter a burning hut ...
    1. 0
      11 August 2018 13: 02
      I didn’t hear the women of the sailors. Not the marines. A LARGE IN in the fleet.
      1. 0
        15 August 2018 02: 28
        Anna Shchetinina. At the age of 27, she became the first woman in the world - a sea captain. With her first voyage in 1935, she became famous all over the world by navigating the Chavycha cargo ship from Hamburg via Odessa and Singapore to Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky. March 20, 1938 Anna Ivanovna was appointed the first head of the fishing port of the city of Vladivostok. Anna met the war in the Baltic, where she bombed the population of Tallinn under bombing and transported strategic cargo.
  21. +1
    9 August 2018 16: 31
    Quote: parusnik
    There are women in Russian villages ...

    ... and how many men are killed and betrayed by women ..? So there is no need for praises ... They are not even angels at all ...
    1. 0
      11 August 2018 13: 03
      We and he are not angels, but people. People
  22. +2
    9 August 2018 16: 34
    I knew one woman, a professional, I still couldn’t give birth to, because of such work, they have a lot of problems on the female part, bends, etc.
    I regretted very much that I had chosen the profession of a driver.
  23. +2
    9 August 2018 17: 10
    There is no smoke without fire. There are things that women are given worse. And rare exceptions do not paint the picture. I apologize for the fact that for a woman, the rear-view mirrors are just to correct makeup - as far as I know my friends - they are all like that.
    Well, no one drives for example women teachers! Or health workers ... Although there is a nuance here - I would have forbidden to hire them soon, but if someone like our Minister of Health is against it - I would first recommend that she pull a stretcher with a patient from the 9th floor without an elevator with the same cow, and then the artificial breathing to do ... In real life it is somewhat not as easy as everyone thinks - try to wash the sternum into a fist? and now - more than once? and now - with an interval of pressing a couple of seconds, and 15 minutes at least do you need to do? This is if the two of them do it. A healthy man will lie just next to a half-corpse, that's why I am against ...
  24. +1
    9 August 2018 18: 24
    Well done, girls! Keep it up! I don’t see anything reprehensible in female driving of Kamaz. There are women in Russian villages .... they will stop the elephant for a gallop and tear off its trunk.
    1. 0
      10 August 2018 02: 54
      Hungarian tin. The story of Countess Bathory, who killed 600 lives

      On August 7, 1560, Elizabeth Bathory was born, a Hungarian countess who is considered the bloodiest female killer in history.
  25. 0
    10 August 2018 09: 11
    Quote: Gritsa
    My younger sister is driving an order of magnitude cooler than me

    ... and you know how to drive yourself ..?
  26. 0
    10 August 2018 09: 13
    Quote: bk316
    E gentlemen, you confuse the average results with the results of prominent people.
    Yes, most women drive poorly, but those who like to drive and who devote a lot of time to it drive much better than the vast majority of men.
    For example, more than half of the peasants, according to my observations, start to whine if they are asked to drive more than 800-900 km without stopping. And of the remaining, more than half begin to drive inadequately after driving more than 900. Well, I'm not talking about stops for smoke breaks, bullets, etc. My wife easily rides 1000 to one wheel and 2500 to half.

    ... well, it's fantasy, you yourself can at least turn a steering wheel? ..
  27. +1
    12 August 2018 07: 05
    My case. Warrant Officer, you take two soldiers and so in the warehouse ...! Is it like with two soldiers? Yes here they are ... I AM WOMAN! You are a filthy warrant officer, and you have a position in a warehouse manager, and a woman in a regular position is in a brothel! Tears, valerian, husband in the office! And in general, it’s time for a long time already to understand that there are precisely women's responsibilities and men's. Crossing borders is fraught with big problems!
  28. 0
    13 August 2018 16: 58
    Roman, you would need to know that DOSAAF no longer exists, maybe you got a typo?
  29. +1
    17 August 2018 00: 51
    Yes, and no tests are needed. Able to change the reserve? So it’s good. Only this is unlikely ...

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