Media: Putin proposed to Trump to limit nuclear weapons

At a meeting of Russian and US leaders in Helsinki last July in Helsinki, Russian President Vladimir Putin made a number of proposals for arms control to US President Donald Trump, Politico reported, citing his sources.

As the newspaper writes, these proposals have never been published anywhere before and are contained on the page of the document entitled “Dialogue on the issue of arms control”, which fell into the hands of a source allegedly from “Russian officials”. The document lists the following Russian proposals to the United States: the extension of the START-3 treaty for five years, including limiting the number of land-based nuclear warheads on submarines and bombers to 1,5 thousand units. In addition, Moscow offered Washington "to confirm its commitment" to the Treaty on the Elimination of Medium and Small-Range Missiles.

The document also mentions a new space treaty, which prohibits "withdrawing weapon to both countries, the various proposals for cooperation and recommendations for dialogue in the 2 + 2 format between the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense of the United States and their Russian counterparts.

The publication notes that the US administration refuses to comment on these proposals, arguing that Trump lacked such documents. As stated in the State Department, the US president "did not receive any proposals from Putin."

Comments

[Leeds]

We would have flown Su-57, T-14, etc. from conveyors, like pies, one could support such an idea. And so, missiles should be enough for all members of one friendly organization on a rainy day.

[maxim947]

Again - one grandmother said ...

[cniza]

Why make fog, what is this information? let each one think further - that’s how rumors are born.

[Tatyana]

Media: Putin proposed to Trump to limit nuclear weapons

And what, Trump or his administration will listen to Putin? Of course not! And only pretends to listen.
In language, of course, everything can be “grinded" - diplomacy can withstand it. However, for the Russian Federation, God forbid, Putin is likened to Gorbachev and Yeltsin!

[MPN]

Quote: Tatiana

In language, of course, everything can be “grinded" - diplomacy can withstand it. However, for the Russian Federation, God forbid, Putin is likened to Gorbachev and Yeltsin!

You are right Tatyana. the first thought was about it, I thought, "Passed already ..."

prohibiting "putting weapons into orbit of the Earth" to both countries

It seems that then China will reign supreme.

[Tatyana]

Quote: MPN

It seems that then China will reign supreme.

And with China from the 1970's flirting and actively investing in new technologies the UK, and through it then the United States.
Therefore you are right! The trap of nuclear "disarmament" with the US for Russia may turn out to be another TA! And Japan is not so far from the production of nuclear weapons - it already has its own military stockpiles of nuclear material!

[nikoliski]

obviously Putin knows that we won’t be able to fly missiles from conveyors as quickly as we would like (just one plant does Yars and Iskander) soon the Voivode will be completely removed from service (they serve for 3 terms, there’s nowhere to extend) and the Sarmat missile is expensive and complicated It’s impossible to replace 80 governors in mines with Sarmatians even in 5-6 years. Therefore, it asks for START extensions because it knows that Americans are capable of putting warheads unloaded at warehouses for full loading on Trident rockets (there was a restriction due to START now). shot warheads were sold to American "partners" in the form of plutonium for their nuclear industry.

[Gargantua]

Quote: nikoliski

to replace 80 governor in mines with unrealistic Sarmatians even in 5-6 years

Where did the Voivode get so much from? EMNIP, there are more than 30 of them in service.

[nikoliski]

you read how many there were in Dombarovsky and Uzhur, they are removed every month piece by piece. As of May 2006, the Strategic Missile Forces included: 74 silo launchers with ICBMs R-36M UTTKh and R-36M2, each equipped with 10 warheads. As of 2017, 46 R-36M2 Voevoda units [6] were on combat duty in two positional areas in Yasnoye (Orenburg Region) and Uzhur (Krasnoyarsk Territory) in a variant with a divided warhead with individual guidance units (10 combat units each) units with a capacity of 1 Mt each), which are planned to be kept on alert until the early 2020s. [7]

List of formations of the Strategic Missile Forces, when either exploited or operating RS-20:

31-I missile army in Orenburg
13-I Red Banner Orenburg Missile Division in the city of Yasny (Dombarovsky)
59th Missile Division in Lokomotivny (Kartaly) settlement - disbanded in 2005 [8]
The 33rd guards missile Berislavsko-Khinganskaya twice the Red Banner, the Order of the Suvorov Army in Omsk
62nd Missile Red Banner Division in the town. Solnechny (Uzhur-4)
38th Missile Division in Derzhavinsk - disbanded in 1996 [9]
The 41st Guards Lviv-Berlin Order of Kutuzov and Bogdan Khmelnitsky, 2001nd class, missile division in Aleisk - disbanded in 10 [XNUMX]
The 57th Missile Division in Zhangiztobe was disbanded in 1995. And of course there were not 80 missiles in total, but many more (cut and cut them)

[Gargantua]

True, 46 Governor are on alert. But not 80, as you wrote. Is it a lot or a little? For me, not so much. It will take ten years to produce the same amount of Sarmatian, and this, you must agree, is a lot.

[nikoliski]

which is what I needed to prove, I’m talking about this (I’m just not sure that Sarmat will be able to do it in series - the rocket is new, so far it’s necessary to bring some tests to 5 years (remember the epic with the Mace, which was destroyed every second launch? And Sarmat’s not yet started to run normally)

[asv363]

Nikolay, maybe not the Tridents, but the Minuteman III?

[nikoliski]

It is the Maritime Tridents in the "margin" that can carry instead of 4 conventional 475 kiloton 14 small 100 kiloton warheads. And judging by the latest tests, the Minutemans about which you speak will write off soon.

[SETTGF]

Dear! No need to write nonsense about China - it is not on the side of the USA and NATO, otherwise, it will be next to Russia ... And as for the article, this is another Fake !!!
Russia does not make any sense to disarm further and reduce Nuclear Weapons, since it is holding back potential adversaries from the third world war ... About 10000 Tomahawks have already been deployed against us - how can we answer? Only the use of nuclear weapons !!!

[asv363]

Quote: Leeds

We would have flown Su-57, T-14, etc. from conveyors, like pies, one could support such an idea. And so, missiles should be enough for all members of one friendly organization on a rainy day.

In fact, this text corresponds to the text of the current START-3 (START) on the number of warheads.
In START-3 - 1550 pcs.
In the new version - 1500 pcs.

[nikoliski]

START has expired, which is why Putin proposes to extend

[parusnik]

fell into the hands of a source allegedly from "Russian officials"

.... Here the FSB would work ...

[KVU-NSVD]

Yes, I think that there is no need to work especially here - that ... This is a small modification of the favorite method of the current media of the "OBS method" - only now half-truth throwing is served on behalf of supposedly representatives of the enemy, i.e. us. In fact, if it was, then most likely Putin’s proposal to confirm adherence to the existing treaties (START-3, peaceful space, dog. RSMD, etc.) and it is possible to back them up with some additional agreements ... And to the leak from

"Russian officials."

I believe weakly - firstly, what level should an official be familiar with the content of the face-to-face negotiations, and secondly, he could not help but understand that Russia is not America and where it will be rolled over for such a leak. It was just that the journalist thought in local categories, where it is easy and unpunished to tremble about the state’s ready-made higher policy (if the opponents of the current government patronize you), and in Russia there are a bit of traditions.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: parusnik

fell into the hands of a source allegedly from "Russian officials"

.... Here the FSB would work ...

Ahem .... So maybe this is the deliberately illuminated part of their work on organizing a planned leak of information, to establish the sector of constant discharge and access to the final (finished) mole))) And you immediately shoot the office

[parusnik]

Apparently, judging by the last plums, the "office" is only doing this ... Probably the "moles" decided to load the work ...

[Vadim851]

Very strange information. Russia, cut back? When the missile defense forces are boosted by NATO countries and Japan, and while 1500 warheads are hardly enough to defeat all the necessary targets, 1400 will fly well if.
As for the treaty, a ban on weapons in space is interesting ... just recently, the Americans decided to withdraw it. Is it really so bad that you have to make concessions?

[spektr9]

Very strange information. Russia, cut back? When the missile defense forces are boosted by NATO countries and Japan, and while 1500 warheads are hardly enough to defeat all the necessary targets, 1400 will fly well if.

We already have less than 1500, only 1444 ....

As for the treaty, a ban on weapons in space is interesting ... just recently, the Americans decided to withdraw it. Is it really so bad that you have to make concessions?

There we are talking about weapons of mass destruction
ps But you can’t get to the site, we’ll defeat all the euphoria

[Vadim851]

WMDs are unlikely to be placed, there are many risks. But the means of intercepting ICBMs are very much, actively discussing this is a topic.
Here, even 1440. I am the nuclear potential of France and especially Britain should be considered as an addition to the American. Also, the Kyrgyz Republic such as Tomahawk and JASSM-ER in relation to Russia are strategic weapons. The B1 bombers should turn on, as it were, too.

[nikoliski]

even if everything arrives, this “total” is not enough to destroy even half of all NATO countries (and the Americans are cunning, they stick bases everywhere, not even to the NATO Qatars and others like them, so that if we don’t get into the cities the ammunition bases were not enough (and not enough, this is far from the Soviet arsenal of 28 different warheads)

[Vadim851]

In addition, in the United States the development is less dense, a huge private sector, a lot of premises underground. It is real that the most dangerous is the destruction of nuclear power units, but then opa will be all in general on this globe.

[bald]

If not linden, it may be enough to attack the same rake - agree with those who are responsible for their words and documents.

[ANCIENT]

Most often, from the history of mankind, we can conclude that after the announcement of a reduction in armaments, the whole world feverishly begins to arm itself on the contrary! So the new stage of the planetary arms race is just around the corner

[Tusv]

In in. Colonel Trump. You will not be a general until you remove the Trident from Naglitsky submarines. Marasmatics such "matches" trust yourself more

[shans2]

what are the screams? the talk is only about extending the current alignment of nuclear forces, and not reducing .... you can certainly begin to increase the number of nuclear weapons, but why? Russia now has hypersound

[seregatara1969]

As stated in the State Department, the US president "did not receive any offers from Putin."

comfortable position

[private person]

It is useless to negotiate with Trump, his own hawks will bite and he will refuse his promises or say that he was misunderstood.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Sense, if you can’t believe the states? Will we sue them?