The problems of the Uran-9 complex identified in SAR will be eliminated

During tests of the robotic complex "Uran-9" in real combat conditions in Syria, a number of problems were identified that are currently being resolved, reports Messenger of Mordovia.

Earlier it was reported about the loss of remote control, about problems in the chassis of the "Uranus-9" and problems with the use of weapons installed on it.

In fact, during the combat use of the machine, nothing fatal happened. These unmanned systems are still at the very beginning of their development, so it was surprising if everything was smooth from the first time.

According to sources in the Russian defense industry, the car will change over time both internally and externally. As for the elimination of all identified deficiencies, this is not an extremely difficult task: the remote control system will be modernized, the undercarriage will be improved, the weapon stabilizer will be installed.

All necessary for repair and modernization of engineers available. So there is hope that in the near future Uran-9 will be again presented to the general public.

At present, the robotic complex is armed with an automatic gun 2А72 (30 mm) and a twin machine gun PKTM (7,62 mm). In addition, the "Attack" anti-tank complex with a range of damage to 5 km is installed on "Uranus". Thermal imaging system provides application weapons in the dark.

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[AUL]

Nothing extraordinary - any new technology requires a certain period of refinement in real conditions. It would be surprising if everything went smoothly at once.

[credo]

Quote from AUL

Nothing extraordinary - any new technology requires a certain period of refinement in real conditions. It would be surprising if everything went smoothly at once.

Reasonable conclusion. Running in a battle is not only necessary for a soldier, but also for technology.

[ZVO]

Quote: credo

Quote from AUL

Nothing extraordinary - any new technology requires a certain period of refinement in real conditions. It would be surprising if everything went smoothly at once.

Reasonable conclusion. Running in a battle is not only necessary for a soldier, but also for technology.

What are you carrying? Both?
What is the break-in of a remote-controlled vehicle, and even more so in the greenhouse conditions in Syria?
Control system "curve"? losing control "just like that"? And it was allegedly found out only in Syria? Where the barmaley don't have anything like EW / REP / RTR .... Nothing. At our landfills this was not found out? I do not believe...
And if this happened in a real confrontation, at least with what. but the army? Would they be turned in our direction?

Trouble running? Semi-desert Syria gives such problems in the chassis? Roads identical to the Syrian are present. and even worse. And who for 5 years of testing throughout Russia did not find for testing? I do not believe.

Problems using installed weapons? Well, these are quite “cranks”.

The question is rhetorical, but did this Uranus really ever be experienced? At the landfills there? Did the experts participate in this? not for TV Star. but for real?
These sores are detected in the first six months of testing.
There is a pancake for 5 years, and Russia and Syria, and only Syria is shown.
Nonsense and lies are solid.
As I understand it, this product is not just raw - it is "sick from birth." incurably ...

[yehat]

the main problems are not even technical failures, and it is management. range, stability, security, smoothness (part of the breakdowns and problems are probably caused by the fact that it moves discretely) I saw interactive control tests at the Central Research Institute of RTK - is this applied? I think no. And the listing of jewelry hung on the platform can impress only the amateur.

[Vita vko]

Quote: yehat

namely management. range, stability, security, smoothness

This was the main mistake in the design. The basis for such a robotic complex should be a modification of the T-72. Otherwise, the high cost of electronic devices and poor security will make the system not only an easy target, but also allow the enemy with the help of electronic intelligence to easily determine the coordinates of control centers.

[Sands Careers General]

all the more in the greenhouse conditions in Syria?

Is it in Syria that the greenhouse conditions?)))
Neighing))

And you are a cowboy

[MPN]

The problems of the Uran-9 complex identified in SAR will be eliminated

In fact, nothing fatal happened during the combat use of the machine.

Why eliminate? And what would be fatal ...? So, in between cases, the loss of remote control, a malfunction in the chassis of Uranus-9, and problems with the use of the weapons installed on it, in fact, it’s garbage, it's just that everything it consists of does not work, and that’s all ...

[Mestny]

Stop whining for any reason.
Whining doesn't exactly work.

[MPN]

Quote: Mestny

Stop whining for any reason.
Whining doesn't exactly work.

Well, yes, for something that does not work, it's garbage, everything is under control ... the main thing. In fact, everything does not work in this device and, believing you, I’m sure now calm, and I know what works.

[poquello]

Quote: MPN

Quote: Mestny

Stop whining for any reason.
Whining doesn't exactly work.

Well, yes, for something that does not work, it's garbage, everything is under control ... the main thing. In fact, everything does not work in this device and, believing you, I’m sure now calm, and I know what works.

sleep calmly and smoke the difference between “not working” and “failures have taken place”, especially since against the background of their effective use, whining is generally not clear

the remote control system will be modernized, the undercarriage will be improved, the weapon stabilizer will be installed.

[MPN]

Quote: poquello

especially since against the background of their effective application

And where is it reflected, or is it the emotions of a winner ...?

Quote: poquello

whining is generally incomprehensible

Whining e and a real look, slightly different things.

loss of remote control, malfunctions in the chassis of Uranus-9 and problems with the use of weapons installed on it,

With regard to the tank, it sounds like a failure of control, a breakdown of the chassis and a failure of weapons, and what’s there "there were failures"? Failure of something or what, how to characterize a tank with such "failures". Throw caps higher and further, just so that uranium would begin to fulfill its tasks, taking into account experience, it is necessary to create a completely new machine. And do not justify those who reported on having no analogs of the world, which as a result can not perform its functions ...
PS:

sleep well and smoke

And know how to communicate with you, I kind of didn’t drink with you on brudershaft.

[Moore]

Quote: MPN

Throw caps higher and further, just so that uranium would begin to fulfill its tasks, taking into account experience, it is necessary to create a completely new machine.

I don’t know about hats, but to create a new car without analyzing the shortcomings of the old one is not engineering. Well, it’s as if in 1939, offended by the breakdowns of the KV-1 transmission, they would begin to design something completely new.

[MPN]

I kind of wrote.

based on experience you need to create a completely new car.

[electrooleg]

Not only everything does not work in Uranus-9 to put it in a nutshell

[okko077]

And now, in order. The military did not order this equipment, nobody needs it ... Nobody knows how to use it ... There are no tactical developments for these toys ... Perhaps they can be used in the 3rd echelon of military operations, for the final stripping of individual hotbeds of resistance ... Their ridiculous capabilities make these robots a burden on the battlefield ... Moreover, in modern warfare they try to avoid direct contact with the enemy, and when such contact occurs, these robots simply will not have time to deliver and use .... Perhaps their use to protect position areas, but only in conjunction with UAVs as part of the Combat Information Systems. But we don’t have it.
While they can be used to fight terrorists and all ... The rest is complete pretense and initiative .. On their own, without entering into modern network-centric systems, they are not needed in the army ...

[san4es]

Earlier it was reported about the loss of remote control, about problems in the chassis of the "Uranus-9" and problems with the use of weapons installed on it.

... feb. 2018 ...

[Chichikov]

I didn’t think that the stabilizer was initially absent from the complex ... It’s like, in the middle of the 20th century, - “Track! Shot!”

[113262a]

Short-shot! The track is already for 62

[BAI]

Here it is - combat experience! It is better to identify and eliminate using the Syrian experience than on your own.

[Antidote]

This is the absence of field tests and lobbying. Well at least Fyodor was not lucky, though ...

[Old26]

Quote from AUL

Nothing extraordinary - any new technology requires a certain period of refinement in real conditions. It would be surprising if everything went smoothly at once.

You both removed from my tongue. Even simpler systems often required refinement, and then the robotic complex. not a specialist, so I don’t know, but for me the rollers are still small in diameter. Therefore, getting between the rollers of a foreign object ...

Quote: MPN

Why eliminate? And what would be fatal ...? So, in between cases, the loss of remote control, a malfunction in the chassis of Uranus-9, and problems with the use of the weapons installed on it, in fact, it’s garbage, it's just that everything it consists of does not work, and that’s all ...

You are wrong, Paul. If there are problems with the same chassis, the use of weapons or the loss of remote control, this does not mean that all this does not work. Failures in a specific situation are possible. The weapons at this complex have already been worked out. Perhaps there were some problems with the guidance channel, but Syria is also different in its relief and climate from Russia. I think there is nothing wrong with that. Many models of weapons that have served faithfully for decades have been tested for a long time and have been refined ...

[aleks26]

The super duper F-22 fighter has been in the army for 13 years, and they are still eliminating something, then the pilots are "dying" due to a lack of oxygen, then something else. The super-invisible railotron ships are adversary, as they do not go to sea, they drag them back in tow, this is normal. And the fact that URAN-9, which passes only tests, breaks, then STONES immediately rises to heaven. Patriots bl.

[Mestny]

These are patriots of a non-existent country.

[asv363]

Alexander, I would add that instead of specific criticism (for example, the lack of a stabilizer on the gun or a small caliber of a machine gun - the same cliff would look better), they write about the unsuitability of the whole complex as a whole.

[spektr9]

It’s good that they are completing, the main thing is that there would be enough money for a series of ...
Will they add cable management? And then the jammer will turn on and Khan DU

[Tavrik]

Remote control will be finished for a long time. A very long time. Very, very long and expensive.

[Guru]

As for the elimination of all identified shortcomings, this is not an overwhelming task:

It remains to modify the file

[ANCIENT]

He is poorly protected. -Lattices at least hung on the sides and stern. And I’m sure that they will fix the problems, the car is new, I hope that it will go in part, and not "later!"

[Phoenix]

It is also necessary to install a mortar on it in the rear of the tower, and some small unmanned vehicle with a thermal imager and other buns, for reconnaissance adjustment and laser guidance of the mortar. And so it would be possible to endow a small AI so that in the event of loss or interception of control, Uranus himself could perform the tasks of orienting himself, recognize his alien, etc., and he would try to establish a connection with the base. )))) In short, there is no chapel modernization)

[A. Privalov]

As follows from the report of the third Central Research Institute of the Ministry of Defense of Russia, the combat multifunctional robot “Uran-9” during its use in Syria revealed a number of shortcomings:

With the independent movement of "Uranus", the low reliability of its running gear was revealed - supporting and guide rollers, as well as suspension springs. In addition, the robot showed unstable operation of the 30-millimeter automatic cannon, the untimely firing of launch targets, the failure of the thermal channel of the optic sighting station. Military experts also consider the inability of the firing movement to be a big drawback of Uranus.

As follows from the report, the robot can conduct reconnaissance and determine targets at a distance of no more than two kilometers. In addition, there are claims to the sights, observation devices and operator screens.

The report notes that combat robotic complexes of the next 10 − 15 years are not able to perform tasks in combat conditions.

[ultra]

A link to the report can be? Or is it from Israeli intelligence information?

[A. Privalov]

Quote: ultra

A link to the report can be? Or is it from Israeli intelligence information?

The report itself is for official use, but here is open information:
https://ria.ru/syria/20180619/1522957833.html
PS Next time, do not forget to add the magic word.

[Victorio]

Quote: A. Privalov

With the independent movement of "Uranus", the low reliability of its running gear was revealed - supporting and guide rollers, as well as suspension springs. In addition, the robot showed unstable operation of the 30-millimeter automatic cannon, the untimely firing of launch targets, the failure of the thermal channel of the optic sighting station. Military experts also consider the inability of the firing movement to be a big drawback of Uranus.

nonsense, for a completely new technique and so many flaws, this is a very good result

Quote: A. Privalov

The report notes that combat robotic complexes coming 10 − 15 years not able to perform tasks in combat conditions.
hi

they are already performing combat missions, and these numbers are for NATO comrades

[A. Privalov]

Quote: Victorio

Quote: A. Privalov

With the independent movement of "Uranus", the low reliability of its running gear was revealed - supporting and guide rollers, as well as suspension springs. In addition, the robot showed unstable operation of the 30-millimeter automatic cannon, the untimely firing of launch targets, the failure of the thermal channel of the optic sighting station. Military experts also consider the inability of the firing movement to be a big drawback of Uranus.

nonsense, for a completely new technique and so many flaws, this is a very good result

Quote: A. Privalov

The report notes that combat robotic complexes coming 10 − 15 years not able to perform tasks in combat conditions.
hi

they are already performing combat missions, and these numbers are for NATO comrades

The report and the numbers in it are for specialists, and the article on HE is for you.

[APASUS]

Drives, gearboxes on tanks have been refining for years, and here it’s practically time from scratch. But the means of communication for such machines were not developed at all, here a bunch of childhood diseases got out, in combat use That's why I suggested taking BMP -1 from warehouses and equipping such vehicles with a communications and control complex, rather than re-creating the BMP in miniature

[Dietmar]

Will finalize. It seems to me that he is a tall man.

[Mentat]

Quote: MPN

Whining e and a real look, slightly different things.
loss of remote control, malfunction in the chassis of Uranus-9 and problems with the use of weapons installed on it. For a tank, it sounds like Failure to control, breakdown of the chassis and failure of weapons, and what did “failures” take place here? Failure of something or what, how to characterize a tank with such "failures". Throw caps higher and further, just so that uranium would begin to fulfill its tasks, taking into account experience, it is necessary to create a completely new machine. And do not justify those who reported on having no analogs of the world, which as a result can not perform its functions ...

In order to have a real outlook on things, you must have data on refusals. At the moment you are engaged ... let's call it counterproductive to send meaningless comments, you do not like the word "whining".

[Tavrik]

The thing, of course, is crude and even if the customer gives money, it will be brought to mind for a very, very long time. In fairness, I’ll say: in one book I read a list of shortcomings based on the results of the T-34 tests. It’s easier to say why there were no comments ...

[Borders]

good machine

[Tourist]

Quote: Phoeniks

. And so it would be possible to endow a small AI so that in the event of loss or interception of control, Uranus himself could perform the tasks of orienting himself, recognize his alien, etc., and he would try to establish a connection with the base. )))) In short, there is no chapel modernization)

And then this AI decides that life is beautiful and deserts from the battlefield.

[Nasty]

And immediately the arms stabilizer could not be put chtol?

[Konatantin 1992]

It is clear that they will solve the problems over time, they will install new electronics, optics, a stabilizer is necessary, there are even no questions, all the same then it will be possible to shoot from the move, well, you won’t go anywhere without a chassis. But it’s just that I always didn’t understand why screaming at the whole world, that we again have the “BEST RECOMMENDED STAR” robotic systems? Well, do you silently, bring to mind, without value judgments)))

[Vanek]

so it was amazing if the first time everything worked out smoothly.

If everything goes as it should, then somewhere something is wrong.

The first damn it, you know, if not always lumpy.

[Dikson]

This product was repeatedly discussed here .. And a funny video from the landfill, where it proudly rides on a flat surface, tacking between burning bonfires .. An expensive and unsuccessful toy turned out ..

[mlad]

What is the debate about. it’s not a robot, but a radio-controlled car, it simply doesn’t have brains for a robot, when, for example, it hides behind a building and loses radio control and can leave the dead zone itself. then it can already be called robotic.

[DimerVladimer]

Currently, the robotic complex is armed with an automatic gun 2A72 (30 mm) and coaxial machine gun PKTM (7,62 mm). In addition, an “Attack” anti-tank system with a destruction range of up to 5 km was installed on Uranus. The thermal imaging system ensures the use of weapons in the dark.

That does not allow to storm well-fortified objects and those who took refuge in houses.

Here we need the Baikal combat module (57 mm, 7,62 mm)

or
Bakhcha-U (100 mm, 37 mm, 7,62 mm) with a 100 mm gun - a sufficient high-explosive effect to "smoke" the infantry from houses and field fortifications.