Cars of the Ministry of Defense will be equipped with GLONASS sensors

The defense Ministry intends to equip all military vehicles with GLONASS sensors, according to News.

To track the movement of vehicles in real time, the military department ordered the development of the Inspector-VAI control system. The cost of research work will be 15 million rubles. The first stage of development should be completed by the end of this year.

It is assumed that the signals from the sensors installed in the vehicles will be transmitted via secure channels to the VAI center. Based on this information, an electronic map of the operational situation will be compiled automatically and periodically updated.

It will be possible to track in real time, for example, the movement of convoy, if necessary, send drivers to a less busy road, to find a shorter road.

In addition, the system will allow you to create a database of motor vehicles and military personnel assigned to it.

According to the newspaper, the armed forces are operating and are in warehouses around 400 thousands of cars.

As noted by military expert Viktor Murakhovsky, first of all, such a system is needed to streamline the movement of military convoys on public roads.

It is very important to make sure that the movements do not violate the rhythm of life of the national economy and settlements, he added.

Earlier it was reported that the equipment of military vehicles with GLONASS sensors had already begun, but so far as part of the experiment. For example, this system equips the vehicles of the military traffic police itself, as well as trucks in some military districts.

Comments

[Thrall]

Our driver at work, when he found out that a GPS tracker was installed on his car, said that now it would be unprofitable to work and quit
The senior warrant officers of the fuel and lubricants service are approaching mourning ...

[ancestors from Don]

Who will say for memory how many Glonass satellites are currently in orbit ???, for normal positioning, at least 32 pieces are needed to cover the entire territory of planet Earth, taking into account the reserve of satellites that have failed them (for a particular location at least three), and then this Glonass showed that I was somewhere in the swamp, although there was a very decent rural road, by the way with the damned Amerikosov GPS such jambs do not happen

[marshes]

Quote: ancestors from the Don

Who will tell you the memory of how many Glonass satellites are currently in orbit ???, for normal positioning you need at least 32 pieces, taking into account the reserve, and then this Glonass showed that I was somewhere in a swamp, although there was a pretty decent rural road, by the way with a damned amerikosovsky GPS such jambs do not happen

I have been using JC for a long time, the main thing is that there would be three satellites over my head to determine the coordinates. In the steppe from 5 to 7 satellites, the navigator shows that it’s more difficult in the mountains if you move away from the slope, the third will come out. This is JP.

[Going]

It must first be done, and then announced.

[marshes]

Quote: Going

It must first be done, and then announced.

We are the same, the main thing is to report. And people pick it up, and here the patriotic citizens will pick up, some for the money others on the initiative.

[Thrall]

Quote: ancestors from the Don

this Glonass showed that I was somewhere in a swamp, although there was a very decent rural road, by the way, with the damned Amerikosov GPS, such jambs do not happen

"it was not a bobbin"
usually the problem is in the map itself that is poured into the device, and not positioning errors, also in your situation it is advisable to include the option "show location with road reference" in the device so as not to go through forests and swamps
it is also important which GPS chip is in the gadget, they come in different qualities
Well, the GPS antenna of the "iron" navigators is always better and more than any smartphone
the most useful when the gadget immediately catches 3 systems our Glonass American GPS and Chinese Beidu. then the satellites are stupidly plus and the detection / display speed and accuracy increase

[marshes]

Quote: Thrall

"it wasn’t the bobbin", usually the problem is in the card itself that is poured into the device, not the positioning errors, it’s also advisable to include in your device the option “show location with reference to roads” so as not to go through forests and swamps which GPS chip is in the gadget, they come in different qualities and are most useful when the gadget catches 3 our Glonass American GPS and Chinese Beidu systems at once. then the satellites are stupidly plus and the detection / display speed and accuracy increase

Maps are now, early on to the navigator, the GPS used the receiver, which simply gave out coordinates, maps at my fingertips, rulers and a curvimeter, a compass.

[Thrall]

Quote: marshes

Maps are now, early on to the navigator, the GPS used the receiver, which simply gave out coordinates, maps at my fingertips, rulers and a curvimeter, a compass.

I once moderated one of the Russian GPS_navigation forums as a hobby. And he always advised everyone to go on a long trip to unfamiliar places with a couple of three navigators and the same number of paper maps

[marshes]

Quote: Thrall

For many years, I once moderated one of the Russian GPS_navigation forums for a long time. And he always advised everyone to go on a long trip to unfamiliar places with a couple of three navigators and the same number of paper maps

I had 5 in topography and in the frontier, then in absentia I got a civil profession at the Faculty of Geography, a surveyor with a diploma.
I can’t sit at home for a long time, a nomad pulls me into open spaces. Although lazy, but if somewhere, laziness disappears instantly, I love open spaces and travels.

[Vard]

For denyuzhku small teach how to drain gasoline ...

[Gargantua]

Through the return line? So people have long run it. Only it is not convenient even once.

[sapporo1959]

Well, in our Kalgas they have been standing on tractors for more than a year, and the Russians are only planning ..

[evil partisan]

Honestly, this GLONASS has already got me . On a fishing trip (or where else ... ) on the official UAZ and you will not leave ...

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Angry Guerrilla

On a business trip for fishing (or even where ...) on the official UAZ you will not leave ...

But to unhook it - in any way? Type - GLONASS - separately, UAZ - separately?

[Thrall]

Quote: Golovan Jack

But to unhook it - in any way?

possible, then you will disappear from monitoring - you have to explain

[evil partisan]

Quote: Golovan Jack

But to unhook it - in any way? Type - GLONASS - separately, UAZ - separately?

And hook it to some deer? And what ... thought!
No, it’s impossible. All our pirouettes are tracked online on the base. And they even put gas pipelines on the map, bastards ... Oh-oh-very clearly visible if you are currently not on r \ n. , but, for example, on the Pechora River ... or not in Vuktyl (where it should be), but in Ukhta (where I have a 15% discount in the cafe "Russian Tea" ...) ...
Hello Golovan!

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Angry Guerrilla

And hook it to some deer?

Well, if the word "deer" is not literally understood, then this is probably a good idea

Quote: Angry Guerrilla

Hello Golovan

Mutually

[sxfRipper]

For sitting down moving cars

Just to trample the loaves!

the system will allow the creation of a database of automotive equipment and military personnel assigned to it

But sho, without GLONASS is impossible?

a system is needed to organize the movement of military convoys along public roads

The same question!

It is very important to ensure that movements do not disrupt the rhythm of life of the national economy and settlements

And again the same question!

[Tavrik]

"It will become possible to monitor in real time, for example, the movement of convoys, if necessary, direct drivers to a less busy road, find a shorter road."

Super! Fifteen years have passed since the advent of commercial programs for monitoring vehicles and analogues may already appear in the military. Five more years and learn to use Yandex navigator. Military version. Development for a fee. Do you still believe that military developments are the very latest?
It’s not at all clear why the VAI needs to know where the garrison’s military vehicles are located. It is important for the person on duty to know where the cars are at the exit.

[spektr9]

Isn't it equipped yet? In theory, they should have been before public transport in cities

[ZVO]

Twice the news.

I myself use the second year of work - a monitoring system according to GLONASS,

All allegedly “pluses” described in the article are in fact a colossal bloating of costs.
15 million per project.
Then for escort.
Hundreds and thousands of workers will be required. which supposedly will be tracked in real time.
In real time - no one can work.
Only after the fact.

Any traffic jams and detours - can be found only on public roads and better Yandex.Maps - nothing works. And it won’t work. For the real situation is owned only by those with many clients.

Routing on country roads will not take into account weather conditions or the condition of the roads.
Here you just need experience in the area.
If the operator is seated for several thousand kilometers, he will lead the convoy to another road in an orderly tone. which has been blurred for a couple of years - it will be somehow "uncomfortable" ...

The system does not provide feedback without the means of communication itself.
Equip all cars with satellite communication systems?
We do not have ours.
So give all your military data to American satellites?
Fools or what?
Accordingly, in addition to cellular / mobile communications, there are no other options.
The system must be maintained. And this is money.
In the minimum, this will be about 200 rubles per car per month.
Knowing the government contracts of the Ministry of Defense. I am sure that the contract will be concluded to the maximum and the price tag will be far closer to 1000 rubles per month. For a more corrupt customer and created corrupt restrictions on the selection of the contractor - still look.
And this will not give a 100% guarantee of finding out the location of army vehicles.
No cellular - no location indications.
Closer to the Arctic Circle - GLONASS is lying tangibly. Meters at 500 in Novy Urengoy. And already closer to 1000 in Nadym.

As a result, when deploying this system, our defense ministry will irrevocably lose about 500 million rubles a month.
This is 6 billion rubles a year.

Just for the sake of the regiment commander to be able to click on the ensign's nose. went to the forest mushrooms ...
And there will be a couple of hundred such cases throughout the country.
6 billion and 200 trips to the forest.

[minus]

Etro, you only considered the minimum service ... Given the classified communication channels + development of devices + the price of the devices themselves ... Given the fact that military devices cost an order of magnitude more expensive ... A conventional tachograph costs 30-40 thousand rubles, and in the case of military execution with ZAS equipment, it will cost 300 thousand one set .... That's where you can cut money again. Everyone on the map, compass and curvimeter !!! Otherwise, in which case they won’t be able to fight, as the satellites chopped off!

[APASUS]

This is what I understand the problem with our MO, to equip VAI cars with GLONASS sensors! Someone did not have enough money for the cottage?

[iouris]

Positioning equipment is not sensors, but receivers of NISH signals.

[ZVO]

Quote: iouris

Positioning equipment is not sensors, but receivers of NISH signals.

No need for receivers ...
Stupidly, no one needs receivers. Need equipment with two-way communication ...
Unless of course you read the article. and not just come to blurt out. without thinking ...