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The expert commented on the reports of China's dissatisfaction with the Su-35 aircraft.

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Recently, there have been reports on the Internet that the Chinese military are unhappy with the Su-35 fighters purchased in Russia. This information in conversation with the correspondent Russian newspaper denied the military expert of the magazine "Arsenal of the Fatherland" Alexei Leonkov.




According to the expert, such injections in the Networks are made in order to sow doubts and spoil relations between the PRC and Russia. In fact, cooperation in the field of military-technical cooperation between countries is only improving every year.

As for the Su-35, if they really turned out to be imperfect, the Chinese side would hardly have continued their purchase.

At the same time, Leonkov noted that the fighters are completed in such a way that the Chinese could hang their own weapons on them. Therefore, the combination of Chinese means of destruction with fighters should be perfect, which is what happens in practice.

He noted that the PRC military enterprises have not yet been able to create airplanes that would be superior to Russian in their performance characteristics. The same applies to aircraft engines of the fourth and fifth generations - all of them are still being bought in Russia. This is explained by the fact that the Chinese do not have experience in the engineering school of jet engine-building, whereas Russian designers have been doing this continuously since the 1950s of the last century.
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  1. Going
    Going 7 August 2018 11: 55
    +15
    According to the expert, such stuffing in the Networks is done in order to sow doubts and spoil relations between China and Russia.


    Someone somewhere sweeps, and the media works on the fifth column.
    1. Magic archer
      Magic archer 7 August 2018 12: 06
      +1
      In fact, this may not be a stuffing. I remember back in 90 when we massively exported weapons to China, I read information that the Chinese wanted to receive original equipment and not the export version, but ours refused accordingly. This concerned C-300 for example. allegedly they said that the export option is significantly inferior to what is in service with Russia. As a result, they still bought such a variant of roofing felts in Ukraine, roofing felts in Belarus. Therefore, I am not surprised at this information on Su-35 hi
      1. For example
        For example 7 August 2018 12: 12
        +24
        Quote: Magic Archer
        In fact, this may not be a stuffing.

        You're right! It's true! All that is bad about Russians is true. And all that’s good is a lie. wassat
        There you are love
        You probably suffer that you live in Russia? crying There you go - love love love
        Russians like that are good for themselves, but they sell bad. wassat
        Not that Americans and democratic Europe. They leave bad things for themselves, and sell all the good. And they give backward democracy and civilization. wassat I myself was lucky enough to drink a cocaccola! Vestch !!! good
        Here you have more love love love love love
        1. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 7 August 2018 12: 36
          +6
          Quote: For example
          I myself was lucky enough to drink a cocaccola! Vestch !!!

          Do not believe it. Many years ago, I had a chance to drink not only Coca-Cola but even Pepsi-Cola!
          I would have drunk more, but health is a pity to ruin.
          1. For example
            For example 7 August 2018 13: 17
            +2
            Quote: Captain Pushkin
            I would have drunk more, but health is a pity to ruin.

            The doctor forbade me to drink this. stop I am completely serious.
            1. Captain Pushkin
              Captain Pushkin 7 August 2018 20: 04
              0
              Quote: For example
              Quote: Captain Pushkin
              I would have drunk more, but health is a pity to ruin.

              The doctor forbade me to drink this. stop I am completely serious.

              You can check if the doctor is right. Pull out any tooth from you and put it in the evening in a glass with cola. Cat from Coca, at least with Pepsi. If he dissolves by morning, the doctor is right.
              If you do not dissolve, then the doctor is still right, I just got a low-quality coca.
          2. Ros 56
            Ros 56 7 August 2018 14: 06
            +1
            I would have drunk more, but health is a pity to ruin.

            Do not drink all sorts of rubbish, I sometimes get in our market on our lemonade, a cool thing. You drink and still want.
            1. cradle
              cradle 13 August 2018 14: 56
              0
              patamusha is SWEET, but you can’t get a sweet drink, drink plain, non-carbonated water and you will be happy
            2. sir_obs
              sir_obs 13 August 2018 19: 45
              0
              There is a lot of sugar in the stake and it makes excellent moonshine, which is already not drunk at all. There is a recipe on the internet.
          3. mavrus
            mavrus 11 August 2018 22: 08
            0
            And I also remember "Invite - just add water".
        2. Gargantua
          Gargantua 7 August 2018 12: 53
          +4
          Oh no no no! What are they all bad over the hill, do not sleep at night thinking, what else would rumors spread about the next lacking analogs, trouble-free Russian weapons. There’s a present for those of you, too, for standing guard over the honor of another wunderwaffle love love
          1. For example
            For example 7 August 2018 13: 21
            +10
            Gargan .... you’ll pronounce the hell, I do not care what’s over the hill. I can’t even read the English text.
            But here I am reading you, all that Caudle who snatches up all the chernukha and enthusiastically retells it.
            There is something unhealthy in your rush of picking shit. negative
            1. Gargantua
              Gargantua 7 August 2018 14: 23
              0
              Quote: For example
              But here I am reading you, all that Caudle who snatches up all the chernukha and enthusiastically retells it.

              It is fortunate that in Russia there are people like you, who write only "beluga whales", who bring the truth to us, not far from the minds of Russians. That is why the flowers were presented to you in the comments above. I dare to ask you to continue and continue your honest, disinterested and very necessary work for the country.
              Quote: For example
              There is something unhealthy in your rush of picking shit.

              If you want to see only white in yourself, while in others only black is your right. But, unfortunately for you, the truth is that it is not snow-white, but always a little grayish. And if you immediately put the label "picking shit" on people who say this, then this never makes you any credit.
        3. Magic archer
          Magic archer 7 August 2018 13: 39
          +9
          I didn’t understand the essence of your answer. What does the flower and other nonsense have to do with it. I don’t suffer living in Russia, I love my country. I don’t give a damn about Coca-Cola and jeans. I was born in the USSR and I regret that it broke up. Therefore, I don’t understand yours answer me. Too thick humor negative
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 7 August 2018 12: 26
        +5
        Quote: Magic Archer
        In fact, this may not be a stuffing.

        Still some stuffing. Expert from China told that China is not happy with 35 SU. An expert from Russia answered him that he’s like he’s wrong and that’s all crap. In short, two experts argue among themselves on the net. At this time, the Russian Defense Ministry and Ktai are betting which of these two couch experts will believe more.
        Do not want to bet, 3-to 1 in favor of Kitayts for now
        1. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch 7 August 2018 13: 21
          0
          Apparently, you bet on the Chinese?
        2. ty60
          ty60 8 August 2018 21: 12
          0
          Old song. Sell us along with technology
      3. Sergio3986
        Sergio3986 7 August 2018 13: 36
        +1
        I'm joining the comment. The Chinese, although they are the world's largest producer, really want to get everything for free! And, unfortunately, a lot of ours are in the same Guangzhou (personal communication). Chased the money! But what, you can’t earn the same money here? Can.
        wink
        And you need !!!
      4. MPN
        MPN 7 August 2018 14: 26
        +1
        Quote: Magic Archer
        In fact, this may not be a stuffing.

        Dissatisfaction can only be if the delivered equipment does not meet the contract, and everything else is completely different, the Americans are also not happy with some of our weapons, only this does not mean that everything is bad ...
      5. Mih1974
        Mih1974 8 August 2018 15: 34
        +3
        According to rumors (very reliable feel ) - the Chinese are extremely unhappy with the Su-35, or rather their engines !! That's just not "low quality" or "below the declared parameters", but - "these Russian bastards have made such an engine that you can disassemble it, but assemble it backwards - LOW belay " lol
      6. Hierarch
        Hierarch 13 August 2018 17: 48
        0
        Going to get the original equipment it must be earned. But it happens ...
    2. USSR-1
      USSR-1 7 August 2018 13: 19
      +1
      They do not write that, for example, China proposed that Russia completely replace the United States in the supply of agricultural products to the Chinese market. Here Pompeo will tear his pompey ...
    3. Dull
      Dull 8 August 2018 00: 27
      0
      Article "linden":
      Quote: voyaka uh
      I read the original translated into Russian. They do not scold the Su-35, but they do not even moan with delight. It is believed that it should be bought: 1) for engines 2) in order to learn foreign technologies 3) in order to strengthen the Air Force until the Chinese 5th generation takes to the wing fully.

      Quote: voyaka uh
      http://eurasian-defence.ru/?q=node/23754

      am
  2. Moore
    Moore 7 August 2018 12: 00
    +6
    Well, this is normal for a specific customer grade:
    -Get the final product (service, etc.) and start making faces that everything is bad, expensive, done through w ... in order to obtain discounts from the contractor or, at least, preferences in the future.
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 7 August 2018 12: 04
      +5
      The Chinese need to learn the skill to bring down prices. In this they are aces.
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 7 August 2018 12: 40
        +16
        Quote: bessmertniy
        The Chinese need to learn the skill to bring down prices. In this they are aces.

        Now in New Delhi it was a shame ... laughing
        1. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch 7 August 2018 13: 26
          +1
          New Delhi standings ...
      2. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 7 August 2018 12: 50
        +1
        The expert commented on the reports of China's dissatisfaction with the Su-35 aircraft.
        have the Indians spied? the goal is one - to cut the price, because they don’t buy from anyone, planes in such quantity, only here. they took the party, which is expensive, we found out that copying will not work, the technology needs to be mastered. and master, time is needed. cars are already better than ours, the fleet will not catch up soon, space ... electronics, and this is with such a population. we have few people, many resources, but ... we live at the expense of the people. normal?
        1. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch 7 August 2018 13: 36
          +1
          We live at the expense of the people. Normal?
          ______________________
          Somewhere live at the expense of the oligarchs? The question is, how much do these people have, "...
        2. tagil
          tagil 7 August 2018 14: 28
          +2
          I’m reading you and don’t understand, are you at least happy with anything in my country? Under the USSR, you probably ached that the West lives better and there the oligarchs are divided with the people, and in the scoop people are robbing the top of the CPSU. I'm right?
      3. MPN
        MPN 7 August 2018 14: 29
        0
        The Chinese have a lot to learn, but first of all, the fight against corruption, and the rest is not bad for ourselves ...
  3. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 7 August 2018 12: 00
    +5
    Well yes! Everything in Russia is garbage! China is the navel of the Earth.
    And India is the navel of the Earth, and everything Russian is dirt ...
    Once England was hammering both of them, but Kamchatka or Vladik couldn’t take it. Well, Crimea, Sevastopol - by joint coalition forces: Turkey, France, the Italian part and England - they took it! Urya! Now Russia has returned Sevastopol back. The Malaysian airplane immediately crashes, the Skripals are poisoned by the British, and then the English homeless are poisoned by the World Cup ...
    So what? But nothing!
    Then, then ... then ... Your planes in China are bad!
    Then ... India will give up Russian weapons.
    Тогда ...
    What to expect next?
    1. venik
      venik 7 August 2018 12: 05
      +7
      Quote: pafegosoff
      What to expect next?

      ==========
      WHAT TO WAIT ???? "Sneaky Saxons" - invented "unparalleled"weapons:" Feykomet "!!!!! bully
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 7 August 2018 12: 20
        +2
        Quote: venik
        "Naglosaksy" - invented "weapons having no analogues": "Feykomet" !!!!!

        Oh yeah! This is the world's largest psychotropic weapon of mass destruction!
  4. Dietmar
    Dietmar 7 August 2018 12: 01
    +4
    Quote: Going
    According to the expert, such stuffing in the Networks is done in order to sow doubts and spoil relations between China and Russia.


    Someone somewhere sweeps, and the media works on the fifth column.

    The media work for themselves, money does not smell. Most importantly, the title of the article is more calming to invent, and the text is no longer important. Especially on the Internet, where there is a struggle for visitors and subscribers to sites.
    Someone earns money on circulation, on the number of visits, someone on grants. This also applies to VO. But, if the Venediktovs offer a larger grant, they will sing a completely different song.
  5. Zhelezyakin
    Zhelezyakin 7 August 2018 12: 04
    +4
    The same applies to aircraft engines of the fourth and fifth generations - all of them are still bought in Russia.

    Well, let’s say, fifth-generation engines were not sold by anyone ...
  6. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 7 August 2018 12: 09
    +2
    In general, Americans need to be wet on all fronts!
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 7 August 2018 12: 17
      0
      Is it play HOi III or something laughing
    2. Kirill Dou
      Kirill Dou 7 August 2018 16: 43
      0
      Go ahead and with the song) and they’ll look at it adequately and catch the lulz
  7. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 7 August 2018 12: 10
    +2
    such stuffing in the Networks is done in order to sow doubts and spoil relations between China and Russia.
    Such stuffing is facilitated by the traditional closeness and laconicism of persons directly responsible for the military-technical cooperation on both sides. It is understandable from the point of view of the secrecy of the details of the contracts, but according to the long-standing tradition, it is often excessive and contributes to stuffing, speculation and incorrect interpretations. And here it’s just that the field is not plowed by various echsperds, but the fact that a half-truth spark thrown into the network can give rise to a fire of lies - this is probably known to everyone ..
  8. 75 hammer
    75 hammer 7 August 2018 12: 20
    +3
    Well then, the Japanese have nothing to worry about because of the deployment of the SU-35 link in the northern Kuril Islands, even the Chinese are unhappy with them !!!!!!! laughing But seriously, in terms of combat efficiency, he is ahead of the J-20! Despite the fact that various “Daves” claim that in order to fight the fifth generation, the SU-35 should approach them for a pistol shot, basing its opinion on the performance characteristics of the SU-27 radar. Well, the flag in their hands!
  9. phair
    phair 7 August 2018 12: 23
    +1
    I still remember how in the early 2000s, on the apron of Khabarovsk -1, they took the Chinese, who bought avionics for the Su-27 ... Of course, they are not happy. Basic equipment is not luxury.
  10. spektr9
    spektr9 7 August 2018 12: 33
    +1
    As for the Su-35, if they really were imperfect, the Chinese side was unlikely to continue their purchase
    Sadly, if there are no foreign orders, we run the risk of running into the next series of enterprise optimization
  11. keeper03
    keeper03 7 August 2018 12: 46
    0
    Well yes, well yes, then buy packs Fu-35 ! laughing good
  12. Dietmar
    Dietmar 7 August 2018 12: 57
    +2
    You need to write an article.
    You are welcome! British scientists (the Indian military, a Chinese expert, a credible source ...) found (stated, denied, clarified ...) that the Sun will gobble up the Earth in 200 million years (SU-57 is worse, T-14 is expensive, no pensions will be...).
    And American journalists (German analysts, French political scientists ...) have the opposite opinion.

    Here's an article for you, at least believe me, at least check it out.
  13. Kirill Dou
    Kirill Dou 7 August 2018 13: 14
    0
    "According to the expert, such stuffing in the Networks is done in order to sow doubts and spoil relations between China and Russia."

    And right there:
    "As for the Su-35, if they really were imperfect, the Chinese side is unlikely to continue their purchase"

    Actually repeated the same "stuffing")
  14. Sergio3986
    Sergio3986 7 August 2018 13: 39
    0
    I didn’t understand, but what about stars in VO just like that? Asleep as a junior sergeant, woke up as a sergeant! And this is for 'once blundered "? Soon I will become captain again
  15. Hapfri
    Hapfri 7 August 2018 13: 41
    +1
    China wants to bring down the price. They are born traders. Perhaps the contract stipulated the purchase of a large number of aircraft. Whining about the quality of the machines will allow you to abandon the acquisition of the remaining part and will provide an opportunity to save several billion. They already have airplanes, they can be rotated and then, on the basis of their "research" experience, hundreds of analogs can be stamped. The Chinese do not spare money on science and technology, they copy everything that lies badly.
    1. ty60
      ty60 8 August 2018 21: 24
      0
      Well, they do not know how to copy Russian engines! And that’s all. And the knock down price is violet. We’ll sell to the Emirates
  16. HMR333
    HMR333 7 August 2018 14: 03
    -1
    if they didn’t like them they wouldn’t buy them!
  17. Ros 56
    Ros 56 7 August 2018 14: 10
    +1
    Do not like it, fly on your own. Or buy from the striped.
  18. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 7 August 2018 14: 20
    +3
    I read the original translated into Russian. They do not scold the Su-35, but they do not even moan with delight. It is believed that it should be bought: 1) for engines 2) in order to learn foreign technologies 3) in order to strengthen the Air Force until the Chinese 5th generation takes to the wing fully.
    1. edasko
      edasko 7 August 2018 15: 26
      0
      Can I link? Tired of reading all this ..
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 7 August 2018 16: 27
        +1
        Here:
        http://eurasian-defence.ru/?q=node/23754
        1. Dull
          Dull 8 August 2018 00: 23
          0
          Quote: voyaka uh
          http://eurasian-defence.ru/?q=node/23754

          Well, at least one wise man was found and checked the source. How tired "clickers" throwing in a "linden" for the rating, who would know ... I would like the site administration to check the links to the source before publication. It seems like a serious publication, but turns into a "yellow press". feel
    2. edasko
      edasko 7 August 2018 17: 33
      0
      Thanks Alexey. Well, where is the discontent? And who is the author of this article? Citizens commentators, before spitting poison, get acquainted first with the primary sources. And the Chinese fellows, if there is an opportunity to buy, then why not buy, just to see what's inside? It seems that things are bad with us if we sell our best airplanes to date. The most important thing in the SU-35 is for the Chinese engines, only they slow them down and here's the present ...
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 7 August 2018 17: 42
        +1
        So I wrote: "do not scold" smile
        1. edasko
          edasko 7 August 2018 22: 18
          0
          Yes, I’m not for you ..
  19. Boomandroid
    Boomandroid 7 August 2018 14: 51
    0
    On this topic! Personally from life! My mother, God bless her! Every time he orders something, be it furniture, doors and repairs! Always upon arrival of furniture makers, etc. D digs into every scratch on it! And constantly they throw it off for her ... Once as much as half the cost ... That's the whole point! M. About China said something? Not! Well, what kind of nonsense! And for those who like to touch the type, which again has no analogues, bad, etc. D well, pack at least one plane to give out like su 35? It is a fact! Further vaunted f 35, f 22 nowhere else particularly distinguished! And all their equipment is only on paper! Like their stealth! It would be nice if someone from RTV shared this info!
    1. spektr9
      spektr9 7 August 2018 15: 20
      0
      Well pack at least one plane to give out like su 35? No one else has it!
      And what did it give out?
  20. Apollo
    Apollo 7 August 2018 17: 59
    0
    Such stuffing, in the language of our Western partners, is called an element of competition in the arms market. One can recall how in the presidential elections in the Russian Federation, from the year 2000 to the present day, all the domestic candidates, except for one, the “right” one, have practically been vilified and doused with dirt. Then, in the campaign headquarters of the right candidates, this phenomenon was also called competition.
  21. Boomandroid
    Boomandroid 7 August 2018 19: 13
    0
    Quote: spektr9
    Well pack at least one plane to give out like su 35? No one else has it!
    And what did it give out?

    Those aerobatics that only he can! And you don’t need to breed your own stupidity, as if I did not understand what I was writing about.
  22. jncnfdybr
    jncnfdybr 8 August 2018 13: 22
    0
    What happened? Can't copy it?
  23. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 13 August 2018 12: 33
    +1
    Chinese military unhappy with Su-35 fighters purchased in Russia


    Bells interfere with a bad dancer)))

    fighters are equipped in such a way that the Chinese can hang their own weapons on them


    Where, with all due respect, does China have normal types of weapons for drying?))
  24. 123456789
    123456789 13 August 2018 21: 59
    -1
    The expert commented on the reports of China's dissatisfaction with the Su-35 aircraft.

    inosmi.ru ›Military Affairs› 20180614 / 242475904.html
    To date, Russia has already delivered 14 Su-35S aircraft to China, the remaining 10 fighters will be delivered during this year. If you count on the amount prescribed in the contract, then on average one fighter costs more than 104 million dollars. The American F-35A stealth fighter as standard costs about $ 94,5 million. Thus, on average, the price of one Su-35 aircraft is higher than the American F-35 by $ 10 million. laughing
    1. pafegosoff
      pafegosoff 14 August 2018 09: 28
      0
      This is a thief copy insurance ...
    2. bloodsucker
      bloodsucker 14 August 2018 10: 55
      0
      123456789, do you believe this message? It also says that:
      "Before Chinese engineers were able to develop their own type of engine on the J-20 fighters, American AL-31F engines were installed."
  25. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 14 August 2018 09: 27
    0
    Indian syndrome?
    Kill the competitors! Let's drop the prices!