In Russia, created an "eternal reactor" for nuclear submarines

Russian nuclear scientists from Afrikantov OKBM, which is part of the Atomenergomash holding, managed to create and test in practice a unique active nuclear reactor zone with a resource for the entire life cycle of a nuclear submarine, follows from the report of the experimental engineering design bureau (OKBM).

As the OKBM explained, the creation of a nuclear reactor core that does not require a reload of nuclear fuel after a certain amount of time, as is currently happening on modern ships with nuclear reactors, means that in the future, Russian nuclear submarines will not need to embark on a "reload" nuclear reactors ", which temporarily shut down the nuclear submarines fleet RF.

The fleet has already responded to the "novelty" from the Russian nuclear scientists. The former commander of the Northern Fleet, Admiral Vyacheslav Popov, said that the creation of an "eternal" reactor is of paramount importance for the combat readiness of submariners, as the "recharging" of a nuclear reactor takes about a month and the combat fleet loses a combat unit for a month.

As follows from the OKBM report, tests of the new core were carried out on a fourth-generation submarine, and successful operation confirmed the correctness of the decision made. The report does not name the submarine, which was tested, but in the Russian Navy, the submarines of the fourth generation are the submarines of the Yasen and Borey projects.

We remind you that the Afrikantov Experimental Engineering Design Bureau is the leading developer of cores for ships of the Russian Navy.

Comments

[Going]

The fleet has already responded to the "novelty" from the Russian nuclear scientists. The former commander of the Northern Fleet, Admiral Vyacheslav Popov, said that the creation of an "eternal" reactor is of paramount importance for the combat readiness of submariners, as the "recharging" of a nuclear reactor takes about a month and the combat fleet loses a combat unit for a month.

Another striped gift ...

[st25310]

Now we are waiting for the perpetual motion machine for aircraft, based on the engine of the rocket "Petrel"

[For example]

How many years will the reactor work? The eternal is not a number.

[Tartar]

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How many years will the reactor work? The eternal is not a number.

For example, the reactor of the Arctic icebreaker under construction is designed to restart in 7 years.

[Blackmokona]

And the reactor on the aircraft carrier Ford is designed for 50 years.

[unBEARable]

Designed for 50 years, the Nimitse recharge once in the middle of their lives. Now Washington is recharging. But on Fords it is not provided? Please clarify

[Blackmokona]

Fords should not be recharged at all. As the fuel was supplied during construction, it should work until 50 years later.

[jjj]

This operation No. 1 was carried out with enviable regularity on old boats. Extreme boats of working projects are already with long-playing reactors. The Americans on the "wolves" and "Virginia" reactors are designed for the entire life cycle of the boat. Ours, too, twenty years ago, started such a thing. But practice has shown that it is better to change the entire reactor. In fact, our reactors are about fifteen years old. If we’re talking about the “eternal,” then, I think, it’s dopped by completely new ones that are smaller and more effective. And, if I understood correctly, there is directly generating electricity

[G A_2]

The Ford Rector does not require a reboot for the entire life cycle of an aircraft carrier for 50 years.

[asv363]

Quote: G A_2

The Ford Rector does not require a reboot for the entire life cycle of an aircraft carrier for 50 years.

In fairness, we could make such an arrangement of the core, but for 35–40 years. As a result, at the end of the JCC, it was necessary to get up on the PPR, which is not good.

In fact, everything is simpler. Consider some western submarine. In reality, the load time of the reactor core will be divided into:
1. Mooring, etc. - about 0,1;
2. Secretive access to the database bearing area - 0,15-0,2;
3. Work at maximum - 40-50% of the time, which, incidentally, causes the highest fuel consumption, and the greatest wear and tear with a high probability of damage to the switchgear along with fuel.

At the moment, it is generally accepted in the USA that if a boat is on a hike 40-50% of the time, this is an excellent indicator.

[PalBor]

But the reactor itself at the Arctic is designed for 40 years of operation.

[vadimtt]

Well, for how many years is the naval reactor designed? It’s just that now they’ll change not the fuel rods but immediately the whole RU. This will happen rather rarely and much safer.
For power reactors, the resource is usually 50 years. For the navy, probably half as much.

[LSA57]

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Eternal is not numbers

but how to check? forever no one has lived. and the boat cannot be eternal.

[AID.S]

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How many years will the reactor work? The eternal is not a number.

They have something like this:
"Gerald R. Ford class aircraft carriers (Eng. Gerald R. Ford class) - a series of US multipurpose nuclear aircraft carriers, which have been under construction since 2009. Designed as an improved version of the Nimitz aircraft carriers .... Power plant
Two new A1B reactors, newly designed for the aircraft carrier, are capable of producing 25% more electricity than the previous generation aircraft carrier’s power plant, and maintenance costs are reduced by 50%. The power reserve allows the ship to reload catapults faster and launch aircraft. The reactor can operate without replacing fuel rods for 50 years. This is the first nuclear reactor that does not require a fuel reboot for the entire life of the aircraft carrier. "

[Orkraider]

The difference between the reactor on an aircraft carrier and the reactor on a submarine is huge. Young engineers!

[Tiksi-3]

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How many years will the reactor work? The eternal is not a number.

cycle - 30-50 years. Our Nizhny Novgorod residents are just fine fellows who finally achieved this!

[Piramidon]

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How many years will the reactor work? The eternal is not a number.

It's written

... with a resource for the entire life cycle of a nuclear submarine ..

And note that the "perpetual reactor" is enclosed in quotation marks.

[Proxima]

Quote: Going

The fleet has already responded to the "novelty" from the Russian nuclear scientists. The former commander of the Northern Fleet, Admiral Vyacheslav Popov, said that the creation of an "eternal" reactor is of paramount importance for the combat readiness of submariners, as the "recharging" of a nuclear reactor takes about a month and the combat fleet loses a combat unit for a month.

Another striped gift ...

A real gift will be when the submarine of the Ash or Northwind series stuffed with an “eternal” reactor will go on combat duty!
In the meantime ... Something we have lately between developments and their actual implementation huge gaping gap

[bk316]

It is unlikely that it will be Borey, probably the next boat .....

[Proxima]

Quote: bk316

It is unlikely that it will be Borey, probably the next boat .....

Also, the next series of submarines will have to be developed Than you "Borey" is not satisfied?

[igorka357]

But what these reactors do not suit them with, the nuclear submarines are the weapons of one salvo, there will be no reloading, replenishment and change !!!

[Mestny]

And to the volley?
The main task of such a weapon is to prevent a volley from happening at all. As long as possible.

[bk316]

Than you "Borey" is not satisfied?

The weight of the overall dimensions of the reactor I think will be different ....

[asv363]

Where does such skepticism come from?

[Gargantua]

Quote: Proxima

A real gift will be when the submarine of the Ash or Borey series stuffed with an “eternal” reactor goes on combat duty!

Yeah, he imagined how a submarine equipped with an eternal reactor and equipped with an eternal crew would go on an eternal campaign. In general, it is not very clear why such a reactor is needed if recharging takes only a month. There, for sure, without a reactor there is equipment that needs repair and maintenance after each trip.

[Proxima]

Quote: Gargantua

In general, it is not very clear why such a reactor is needed if recharging takes only a month.

And I don’t understand why the reactor doesn’t suit you, whose resource is comparable in time to the resource of the entire submarine? This is quite logical ...

[Mestny]

Well, how?
The oligarchs, led by Putin, are building this, and this, as you know, is unacceptable.
It is necessary that a happy people be built under the leadership of the Communist Party, but for this it is necessary to break everything down again.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Mestny

... we have to break everything down again ...

... completely

[dauria]

The oligarchs, led by Putin, are building this,

There is a fence, a checkpoint and asphalt from the time of the "happy people under the leadership of the CPSU." There are only 2 new stalls in front of the entrance - with watermelons and underpants. And from youth, brave guys and security girls. One of the few enterprises in the city that were afraid to ruin.

[Gargantua]

A good answer, such as the commentator Local, who judge the achievements by arranged annual parades, and the product and equipment - by commercials.

[bk316]

A good answer, such as the commentator Local,

Bad - asphalt will not lie down for so many years

[dauria]

Bad - asphalt will not lie down for so many years

Here is the OKBM fence, near the entrance. However, there is a Yandex-card to help, there are panoramas there, though without the merchants coming. I will not take pictures myself from sin. In general, the reserve of the 80s with the Board of Honor and all that. The time machine is a journey into the past.

[san4es]

.... managed to create and put into practice the unique core of a nuclear reactor ...

[Monster_Fat]

The next "cartoons".

[bk316]

Exactly, but doubters are invited to climb into the hot zone and feel the fuel elements themselves.

[VALERIK_097]

It seems that there were no doubters, in PPU the weak link is not the reactor, but the steam generators (in this direction, there is still a saw and a saw)

[asv363]

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It seems that there were no doubters, in PPU the weak link is not the reactor, but the steam generators (in this direction, there is still a saw and a saw)

For example, direct-flow steam generators are installed on many foreign YPPU samples. Is this really a problem?

[MPN]

Quote: Monster_Fat

The next "cartoons".

Why? Everything is fine. The next step is the development of an eternal nuclear weapon, which will be simply rearranged from loaded boats to new ones ... I can see directly the rows of rectors waiting for a new boat to be built for them ...

[NKT]

The next stage - Armata with a nuclear engine and a new Shell with a laser beam

[bk316]

a combat fleet loses a combat unit for a month.

And the operation itself is not very pleasant. As you know, one of the most serious radiation accidents occurred during reloading of the reactor.
I read the report and became sick ....

[slowpokemonkey]

what a disaster?

[vadimtt]

I think the one where they pulled the cover of the switchgear together with the fixed rods of the CPS (or with the spacer grid, I do not remember). As a result of SCR, a lot of dirt and death. (August 10, 1985 SZR Zvezda, USSR, Ussuri Bay, Chazhma Bay)

[bk316]

It is the most. Well, not really, but approximately.

[Dezinto]

I read the report and became sick ....

what a disaster?

Oh there is a whole stratification of accidents and flaws, just awful. As if everything in the important process were pouring out of hand, all circumstances turned out lousy - and you are like that - "okay, I’ll finish everything and it will be fine."
As a result, heraksnul so that there is still half the story muddy and secret. And phonyl this bay is all right.



In general, it would be gratifying that you did not have to reload these reactors, but directly with the submarine, after years of service, drown on the ocean floor, where everyone will soon forget and nothing will happen to them, never mind ....
Safe environment in people I like so much. - "And let's just take the spent fuel a little further away from the coast where no one is swimming, a great idea! And we will throw out all the nuclear junk there .... well, what could be bad?"

[igorka357]

Yes, it’s really something ... then you would have to get out of the site! And then you brought reports about the most serious radiation catastrophe in the submarine fleet .. and you are sitting here .. Report on Wikipedia, and the real ... oh-oh difference !!!

[bk316]

Wikipedia report, and the real ... oh difference !!!

Maybe you certainly don’t know, but now you’ll be formed.
All incidents with SCR were investigated by the IAEA. Some immediately some of the removal of the neck. So I read the most real report, well, I don’t know how consistent with reality. And reports on the total emissions of 50 years so online.

[anzar]

bk316 writes:
And the operation itself is not very pleasant ...

I was always amazed that on boats (because of their small capacity for technological hatches) the reactor was recharged, but not on nuclear icebreakers! It turns out cheaper in 15-20 years a new icebreaker in 30t. tone build? Or consider it "morally obsolete"?

[VALERIK_097]

anzar (anzar)
You just made me laugh very much, do not tell anyone else that OP-1 is not produced on icebreakers.

[anzar]

Do not tell anyone else that OP-1 is not produced on icebreakers.

I am not an expert, I was simply surprised that they serve so little and then they are rejected entirely. If recharged, then why such a thing? Diesel-electric icebreakers (Finnish) last much longer. "Quality" power?

[VALERIK_097]

They serve a / l only slightly less, operating conditions are much harder, the icebreakers on the Northern Sea Route simply work, and their service at Atomflot is not advertised much.

[pafegosoff]

Soak America vile!

[igorbrsv]

I tried lacking. The jet is rather weak

[Uncle lee]

Quote: igorbrsv

The jet is rather weak

Need to climb higher!

[Separ]

Eat watermelon

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Separ

Eat watermelon

Actually, you need to know the "languages"!
(Ukrainian: watermelon - “pumpkin.” After a pumpkin, you won’t squeeze a lot out of yourself. But after a Watermelon - quite!)

[Separ]

but I’m not Ukrainian, I’m Kuban ..

[Orkraider]

Better beer))) the pressure will be better

[KVU-NSVD]

There is a lot of recent news about the achievements of our nuclear scientists - peaceful, not very, very apocalyptic for the enemy. And many potential vrazhin from this nervous itch and hysterical movements in impotent rage ....

[igorka357]

Aha ha .. but the eternal non-aging crew, and the eternal inexhaustible ammunition did not come up with? The guys from the "walk" as they come from space, do not stand on their feet .. so also let's increase ...

[Mestny]

About retirement, about retirement forgot to tell.

[marshes]

Interestingly, such a reactor and a bunker in the mountains, so that for 25 years from the "events" one could live.

[faridg7]

And, excuse me, what will you eat these 25 years?

[marshes]

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And, excuse me, what will you eat these 25 years?

To grow and breed.

[faridg7]

Yes, you, my friend, is a complete optimist.

[marshes]

Quote: faridg7

Yes, you, my friend, is a complete optimist.

Well, yes, in the cellar there are two plastic 50-liter barrels with NZ, there are gas masks and OZK, an official hunter and an experienced one. I have a dangerous earthquake in the area, the Institute of Nuclear Physics is nearby, I will take myself to the survivors. Although the elder brother had a good idea until 2012, he is a former Strategic Rocket Forces Officer. Not at all optimistic.

[Orkraider]

Sublimated products. It takes up little space, a very good exit. Until now, they are replenished in the "plants" of the Federal Reserve. And a very long shelf life, everything else is resting.

[marshes]

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Sublimated products. It takes up little space, a very good exit. Until now, they have been replenished in the Rosrezerv reserve "plants." And a very long shelf life, everything else is resting.

stew, biscuits, flour and pasta. The house is private, potatoes, kampoty and preserves, chickens, rabbits, early goats with rams and calves.
Yes, and gold in invest coins, early bullions with 12% VAT were.
The main thing from the city to the hacienda is that to get out on Balkhash. There and cattle, fish and water with land.

[Separ]

There are many more fish and seafood in Okiyan ..

[Boa kaa]

Quote from rudolf

Guaranteed to ensure the operation of the reactor for the entire life cycle of the ship, it is possible only with the implementation of full electric propulsion - the second sign of the fourth generation.

Hi friend!
This is true. Here is just one immodest question: what do we already have permanent magnet GEDs that meet the requirements of the 4 generation.
To be honest, I don’t remember something like that. Or did I miss everything again !?

[Boa kaa]

Quote from rudolf

There, even with Lada sat in a puddle.

Rudolph, I hinted about her darling ... On Kalina, probably, the shaft line will also be removed, carrying GEDs into ring nozzles ... Everything goes to this.
Something like that, it seems to me.

[Simon]

Well, what are you doing, everything has its time. I think that this time will come quickly.

[askort154]

I am far from a nuclear physicist, but based on media information about our Rosatom, we can conclude. This is one of the leading industries of the Russian Federation, which was not destroyed after the USSR. Moreover, she surpasses competitors in all respects. In the 90s, Germany was not able to complete its nuclear power plant project in Iran, we successfully did it for them. I emphasize that it was in the 90s. Now our Rosatom is a leader in all directions. They made nuclear reactors virtually "waste-free." Like, the secondary processing of nuclear waste does not require a shutdown of the reactor. Therefore, such a technology for nuclear submarines is enough for its entire technical resource.
Definitely, our Rosatom is now the undisputed world leader. Nuclear engines on rockets and spacecraft are no longer fiction.

[marshes]

Quote: askort154

Definitely, our Rosatom is now the undisputed world leader. Nuclear engines on rockets and spacecraft are no longer fiction.

Only one thing is missing in the line of rectors with low power a third of the proposed ones. The line could be large.

[asv363]

Quote: marshes

Only one thing is missing in the line of rectors with low power a third of the proposed ones. The line could be large.

All over the world, the difficulties are usually the same:
- Physical protection of a small power unit;
- Normative base.

That is, you can put it inside the American military unit in Alaska (given that heat will go as a bonus). Elsewhere is difficult.

[keeper03]

Great news - to evil adversary! Now urgently introduce to the masses!

[Dimon grin]

It is a pity that all nuclear reactors are weak in front of the Bogomolov accelerator.

[Dimon grin]

Why is the Searl generator bad?

[BAI]

with a resource on whole life cycle nuclear submarine

In honor of what is the name "eternal" in the title?

[voyaka uh]

So the Americans also have reactors for the entire service life. It is very convenient.

[Old26]

Quote: unBEARable

Designed for 50 years, the Nimitse recharge once in the middle of their lives. Now Washington is recharging. But on Fords it is not provided? Please clarify

Reboot is not provided. The Ford reactor (A1B), as correctly written by the BlackMokona comrade, is designed for a life cycle of 50 years without recharging. All previous ones are designed for a shorter life without recharging. The Virginia (S9G) reactor is designed for 33 years of service without recharging. Nimitz-class aircraft carriers (A4W reactors) are designed to operate for 20 years without reloading.
At Ohio (S8G reactors), the life cycle was something like this
14 years of work - 2 years of ERO (overhaul plus recharging of the reactor) - 14 years of service. The total life of the boat is 30 years

Now the life of the boat has changed somewhat and the cycle has become the next
14 years of operation - 4 months ERP (preventive maintenance without reloading the reactor) - 6 years of service - 2 years ERO (overhaul plus recharging of the reactor) - 20 years of service. with 4-month ERP repairs (the term of this second preventive repair is not indicated, "floating"). The total life of the boat is 44 years.

[Olga Donovina]

Enough of nightmares. She was going to catch up with the Russian Armed Forces in 50 years, having stolen technology. And here is a new challenger

[Rocj]

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How many years will the reactor work? The eternal is not a number.

so how much is written!

managed to create and test in practice a unique core of a nuclear reactor with a resource for the entire life cycle> nuclear submarine

Until the boat rusts.

[Simon]

Perfectly! Now the submarine will go to the base only for replenishment of ammunition, provisions and can be upgraded.

[Horse, people and soul]

Probably even more important is the recently created miniature nuclear reactor, which with one biosecurity unit can be put on existing diesel boats as an auxiliary power unit or its version as the main one on new projects.

Unlike real nuclear submarines, diesel boats will not have a steam turbine, and a nuclear reactor will be used to recharge batteries instead of an expensive and inefficient anaerobic installation.

These mini-reactors will not be limited to use only on boats. They will also be used for ground weapons, combat air defense / missile lasers.

[NordUral]

Good news and more!