Kiev: Refusal of railway communication with Russia will help Nord Stream-2

We did not have time in Russia to discuss the statement of the Minister of Infrastructure of Ukraine Omelyan about the possible termination of Ukraine’s railway communication with Russia, as they rushed to refute this statement in Kiev. But in order not to present themselves as stupid people, they came up with a “plausible” explanation. Former Deputy Infrastructure Minister of Ukraine Oleksandr Kava said that stopping the railway communication with Russia will help the implementation of the Nord Stream-2 project, reports NewsOne.

Speaking on the TV channel NewsOne, Kava said that in a situation where Ukraine is struggling to stop the construction of the Nord Stream-2 pipeline, the refusal of railway communication with Russia will set Ukraine as an unreliable partner. Kiev is making a lot of efforts in convincing Europe that it is a reliable transit country for Russian gas to Europe, Kava explained, and the refusal of a railway connection with Russia could lead Europe to look for other ways to deliver Russian gas, since Kiev will show itself on the negative side, capable of making serious political decisions without warning or consulting with "partners."

The second argument in favor of maintaining railway. communications with Moscow, Kava named possible retaliatory measures of Russia capable of causing damage to the Ukrainian economy by several billion hryvnias a year.

Recall that in Ukraine they oppose the construction of the Nord Stream-2 pipeline, because if it is sold, Ukraine loses a lot of money that it receives from the “aggressor country” as a transit country for Russian gas to Europe.

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[Stas157]

. refusal of railway communication with Russia will expose Ukraine as an unreliable partner

Already, more than is, will not expose.

[Vard]

I don’t know ... Does this mean that now you can’t get to Russia through Ukraine by train? Although recalling his personal experience with Ukrainian customs, everything that is not done is for the better ...

[Thrall]

The case when you want to comb the mantle, but you can’t

[maxim947]

They poor fellows no longer know how to spoil, fantasies and opportunities are exhausted.)

[MPN]

What to comb? (As I read it is not so visible) Let them scratch, only they will consult with partners at the beginning ...

[venik]

Quote: Thrall

The case when you want to comb the mantle, but you can’t

=======
Damn ..... They recalled the "bearded" joke !!!
"Sitting 2 Chukchi" is not the Land of Franz Joseph .....
Pimas in the Arctic Ocean chatting ..... Reading the newspaper "Pravda" .......
One got to the International News section ......
- Oh, something that Honduras bothers me very much .....
- Second to him: "Well, how much can you say? DO NOT CEREAL"HIM"!!!!!

[major147]

Quote: Vard

I don’t know ... Does this mean that now you can’t get to Russia through Ukraine by train? Although recalling his personal experience with Ukrainian customs, everything that is not done is for the better ...

Sister rides a bus from Kiev to Rostov.

[self-propelled]

Quote: Vard

Does this mean that now you can’t get to Russia through Ukraine by train?

this means that now from Ukraine to Russia horseradish train generally get

[USSR-1]

Another thing is another. Russia supplies via railroad via Ukraine, for example, more than 2 million tons of coal to Slovakia and Hungary. Ukraine itself continues to purchase petroleum products, which also go along the railway. Also block? Contracts for delivery through them include a tariff for transportation, which brings money to the treasury. All these Poroshenko structures were not permanent, they dreamed of closing the border, they didn’t. Russia and the Russians are only a plus, if they do, the flow of smuggling that has changed the work of the residents will stop.

[rocket757]

It is clear that there will be no "marriage" .... and there was a reason! Let's wait and see what else the most patriotic patriots will come up with, whose family is striped, and the children are finally not citizens of dill!
In short, jumping and maidan is a complete killing of the brain .... only the brainless patriots and fat heroes are obtained \ with whom you can drag any garbage!

[dSK]

Quote: Stas157

more than is, will not expose.

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[bessmertniy]

So what is it - the handouts from the West are over?

[ancestors from Don]

Of course, all Russians are very concerned about events in Ukraine, how are they? it’s kind of easier to bear the hardships and deprivations of one’s own life in Russia, and what they respect quietly say thank you to the government that we don’t have a war and forget the price increases for gasoline, utilities, VAT, personal income tax, and the eternal retirement age ......

[Mestny]

What, have you eaten up the last hedgehogs?
In the midst of "hardships and hardships" is the last beacon of democracy - the Internet?
What do you all, fighters with the system know about hardships and hardships?

[KLV2018]

Quote: Mestny

What, have you eaten up the last hedgehogs?
In the midst of "hardships and hardships" is the last beacon of democracy - the Internet?
What do you all, fighters with the system know about hardships and hardships?

Did the Jedi write a lie?

[bk316]

Did the Jedi write a lie?

forgetting the price increases for gasoline, utilities, VAT, PIT, and perpetual retirement age ......

Yes, he wrote a lie. I highlighted. Well, of course, about the "eternal age" is also a lie, but let it be a hyperbole

[ancestors from Don]

Serezha, let's name five differences in the economic "management" of the authorities of Ukraine and Russia, and you will be the most intelligent and patriotic hedgehog of the site. Do not forget when you push in the memories that hydrocarbons are a bonus only in Russia.

[Okolotochny]

So propose your model, "management"? Will you push?

[ancestors from Don]

Record, do not steal yourself and do not let your friends do it !!! And mind you without any trouble.

[bk316]

do not steal yourself and do not let your friends do it

Is this a model? Do you need to do anything? To manage taxes? Production and investment stimulate? Fill the budget and spend it right? EASY TO SIT AND DO NOT STEAL? How all the same to you brains for .. composted

[Okolotochny]

Yes, he can not offer anything. You can not push, do not strain your brains and tyrneta yelling.

[major147]

Quote: Mestny

What, have you eaten up the last hedgehogs?
In the midst of "hardships and hardships" is the last beacon of democracy - the Internet?
What do you all, fighters with the system know about hardships and hardships?

These "fighters" cannot offer anything in exchange for the current system.

[Kapitanleutnant]

I have no words!!!

[Andrey Yuryevich]

ours are having lunch together or something ... they catch an infection on the fly, that those that are these can’t just live sensibly in the neighborhood. I don’t worry with the neighbors, I was probably lucky - with me - they have a repair - I understand, they thump me, they invite me, the trouble is I go there with support ... in general, "we." but Ukraine ... it’s somewhere beyond the border ... it can’t be. so hate brother that burn alive ... not ... not ours.

[CAT BAIYUN]

generally "we." but Ukraine ... it's somewhere beyond the bounds ...

"We" have long been gone there even at the level of ordinary people. (I won’t say that there were no adequate at all, but it’s already close to this). There is one big nasty, slippery "I" and "MY".

[major147]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

ours are having lunch together or something ... they catch an infection on the fly, that those that are these can’t just live sensibly in the neighborhood. I don’t worry with the neighbors, I was probably lucky - with me - they have a repair - I understand, they thump me, they invite me, the trouble is I go there with support ... in general, "we." but Ukraine ... it’s somewhere beyond the border ... it can’t be. so hate brother that burn alive ... not ... not ours.

So recently, in a conversation on trick with one "European from Konotop" I read from him a complaint that they were unlucky with their neighbor !!!!

[YarSer88]

That's it! How much can you throw on both sides! It’s as if there are few enemies, and even with neighbors it is necessary to quarrel before massacre. I have long been for friendship with Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Belarus. This incomprehensible enmity is imposed on people, if you remove the propaganda, then the people will cease to hate each other, I'm sure!

[Fedorov]

Some expressions on the great and mighty!

[ANCIENT]

The refusal of the sun to enter the south puts Kiev in an ugly position, and obliges to take sanctions against the Sun! !!

[Vovad]

In general, everything is clear. Everything is tied to the NewsOne channel. First, he said one thing and then from the NewsOne screen, supposedly Kiev began to make excuses to the Russian audience who discussed this “news”. Here is all the statements and the “Ex-Deputy Minister” of the rest of the former regionals are given out for what “Kiev” said. And even sadder is that the Russian audience discusses this and pays so much attention to the statements of pensioners.

[svp67]

Quote: Vovad

It’s even sadder that the Russian audience discusses this and pays so much attention to the statements of pensioners.

And what foolish language is, then Vlad has plans ... We would not discuss it if it did not affect us.
And I will say what will be the next step if Ukraine cuts off the railway. communication with Russia. She will begin to alter the roads under the European standard

[Kerensky]

And I will say what will be the next step if Ukraine cuts off the railway. communication with Russia. She will begin to alter the roads under the European standard

Yeah ... and rolling stock ..... Are there any pennies?
Remind me, why did Grandfather Joseph climb into Poland?

[major147]

And what about the fool in the language, then Vlad has plans ...

And what? These can! Well, they cost the European Wall from Russian tanks. And our tanks didn’t pass!

[Antares]

Quote: Vovad

. First he told, one and then from the NewsOne screen

Not always the Newswan. This is an old song.
2017 year. Here from where about the "hryvnia" of losses and the beginning of the conversation. Something has changed? Yes, so far I can buy a ticket to Moscow from me, from KIEV, etc.

Now Omelyan answered questions on the air 1 + 1, there I did not hear about the ban, only rumors. In 2017, they wanted, but only echoes.
In Russia, this is the topic of speculation, and we have pure rhetoric. And let's ban and let's talk every year about your plans and HSP ...
Fooling around dumb, so they brought the country to the handle with such bans. The economy is above all. And it’s better not to invite “patriots” to the economy.

[svp67]

Before Russia had time to discuss the statement of the Minister of Infrastructure of Ukraine Omelyan about the possible termination of the railway communication between Ukraine and Russia, in Kiev they rushed to refute this statement.

Ukraine is a country of CONTRAST ...

[major147]

Quote: svp67

Before Russia had time to discuss the statement of the Minister of Infrastructure of Ukraine Omelyan about the possible termination of the railway communication between Ukraine and Russia, in Kiev they rushed to refute this statement.

Ukraine is a country of CONTRAST ...

And the "not de-communized" electric locomotive VL (Vladimir Lenin) in the colors of the Russian flag!

[marshes]

Actually, the TE33A diesel locomotive looks like this.It’s interesting that it’s almost the color of tricollora. And the geography of deliveries is impressive.

[Boomandroid]

Quote: Vovad

In general, everything is clear. Everything is tied to the NewsOne channel. First, he said one thing and then from the NewsOne screen, supposedly Kiev began to make excuses to the Russian audience who discussed this “news”. Here is all the statements and the “Ex-Deputy Minister” of the rest of the former regionals are given out for what “Kiev” said. And even sadder is that the Russian audience discusses this and pays so much attention to the statements of pensioners.

I completely agree! It’s time to show the first channel whether it’s sucking a bullshit on an ex-mild who hasn’t been present for a long time or the usual idle talk of Ukrainian deputies .. After there (and others F.K.) they showed how good it is that the retirement age was increased, right away it became sick from these channels paid by the government .. They showed the actors and the bureaucrat who shouted how good it all is! But not one hard worker from the factory, which almost dies at it and mast mastered, quickly leave this penal servitude for a well-deserved rest!

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: BoomAndroid

But not one hard worker from the factory, which almost dies at it and mast mastered, quickly leave this penal servitude for a well-deserved rest!

here ...

[Zubr]

this is a diagnosis ..

[cariperpaint]

Sooner or later, they will have to close the railway message. Their fleet of locomotives and electric locomotives is simply on its last legs. I watched not so long ago, it's just awful. It got to the point that electric trains have to be targeted for freight, because there is no other. Everything is ancient. Just a couple of years and that's it. I AM

[bessmertniy]

Maybe Ukraine deigns to want Russia to supply liquefied gas to Europe? But we didn’t ask her about it - we offended you know ... But the liquefied one just will not go through Nezalezhnaya.

[bald]

Is there still an economy left there? Not everything is leaked and plundered ?! The same Kava, carries such nonsense - what is the connection between the piece of iron and the stream.

[Boomandroid]

Quote: bald

Is there still an economy left there? Not everything is leaked and plundered ?! The same Kava, carries such nonsense - what is the connection between the piece of iron and the stream.

Have you read the article? And the connection is obvious!

Kava said that in a situation where Ukraine is struggling to stop the construction of the Nord Stream-2 pipeline, abandoning rail links with Russia will expose Ukraine as an unreliable partner.

And everything is logical here! Secondly, retaliatory sanctions that really did not benefit them

[Simon]

Quote: Vard

I don’t know ... Does this mean that now you can’t get to Russia through Ukraine by train? Although recalling his personal experience with Ukrainian customs, everything that is not done is for the better ...

Of course, now Ukrainian customs officers will remain without work!

[Rav Rav]

Imbitsylov, like pranked cats in the face to poke where they cheated, although still we will not shout!

[Simon]

Quote: bessmertniy

Maybe Ukraine deigns to want Russia to supply liquefied gas to Europe? But we didn’t ask her about it - we offended you know ... But the liquefied one just will not go through Nezalezhnaya.

Let the states take liquefied gas. It will be "cheaper" for them.

[Simon]

Quote: cariperpaint

Sooner or later, they will have to close the railway message. Their fleet of locomotives and electric locomotives is simply on its last legs. I watched not so long ago, it's just awful. It got to the point that electric trains have to be targeted for freight, because there is no other. Everything is ancient. Just a couple of years and that's it. I AM

Yes, even fighting with Lugansk, where the locomotives did. Now, most likely, they will remain without locomotives.

[avaks111]

It seems to me that the main passenger flow to Russia is by road!
Now, if they block it ...

[Bshkaus]

It is true that there is, that is. Until the 14th year, trains rushed back and forth, one “metropolitan express” # 1 which cost when it flew over both borders without stops. Now only 3 pieces of 10 cars and Moldavian. Oh! There would be a lot of money, without thinking, I started up a private train registered in Moldova Chisinau-Moscow because the demand is really crazy. But alas, there is not a lot of money, therefore, while the people who are stubborn on both sides hate each other, I quietly buy up land in quiet places of Ukraine (naturally not on the Donbas). The rioters are shot a little bit on both sides, so that the war will end sooner or later and will have to raise agriculture and the economy. This is an artificial war and a false ideology (and, as it turned out, both sides are sinning). Those who consciously want to be deceived and killed for the "idea", are sure to be killed. Whoever sees behind the events not meaningless "foam", but the entire depth of the ocean, or at least a small part of it, no longer succumb to cheap provocations and do not rush headlong into the foam from the pier to break into rocks. Someone will say that for me the mother-war is dear, on the contrary, I feel sorry for the people who themselves command it.

[Altona]

I read on Twitter that the Lviv-Moscow train is one of the most popular and the import of goods from Russia to the same Lviv has increased 6 (six) times over the year !!!! And they want to block the railway message.

[Antares]

Quote: Altona

on Twitter that the train "Lviv-Moscow"

Here is the official from Ukrzaliznytsia.

For six months, 424,6 thousand passengers departed from Ukraine by trains and 434 thousand entered. At the same time, Ukrzaliznytsia trains used 385,6 thousand to enter and 379,8 thousand to leave.
The popularity rating of trains in the Russian direction is as follows:
No. 073/074 Lviv-Moscow (trailers from Kovel, Chernivtsi and Ivano-Frankivsk) - 87,2 thousand passengers for departure and 87,3 thousand for entry.
No. 6/5 "Kiev - Moscow" (trailed wagons from Chernihiv) - 64,2 thousand passengers for departure and 48,6 thousand for entry.
No. 53/54 "Kiev - St. Petersburg" (trailed cars from Kharkov and the Dnieper) - 17,6 thousand passengers for departure and 18,1 thousand for entry.
No. 23/24 "Odessa - Moscow" - 36,6 thousand passengers for exit and 52,6 thousand for entry.
and so on.
In addition, the Moldovan trains "Chisinau - Moscow" and "Chisinau - St. Petersburg" used 44 thousand passengers to leave and 55,8 thousand to enter.

Quote: Altona

the import of goods from Russia to the same Lviv increased 6 (six) times over the year !!

interesting as it was considered? After all, the purchase of fuel in all forms has increased in total. Lviv is a transit city (you never know what they drive through it)
in general, the counting technique is interesting.
The total statistics is 6 billion from Russia, 3 billion from Ukraine. It is growing after the recession. Fuel and fertilizer mines on the one hand are food and engineering products on the other.

[Mestny]

Quote: BoomAndroid

After there (and on other F. K) they showed how good it was that the retirement age was increased, it immediately became nauseous from these channels paid by the government ..

Sons! Do not reduce the intensity of the fight against Putin's regime!
A little more, and the entire Internet shkolota will breathe in the free, democratic air of small independent, but proud states on the ruins of an empire.
Then your dream will come true - there will be no pensions at all. Neither in 60 nor in 65.
You will not live to see it.

[jncnfdybr]

That's where they clung to the gas pipe, that all methods are good, if only to leave transit.))

[Dietmar]

Now, even after the introduction of SP-2, Russia will not have enough capacity to provide gas supplies under contracts, if you want, if you want, you will have to use the Ukrainian system too. But Europe will build LNG terminals for its money, then the need for Ukraine will completely disappear.

[Clone]

So Moseychuk was frostbitten, and he turned on the return ...

[sgr291158]

Oh, how the fool cries for them.

[NF68]

The train started moving. “Who needs it” in the EU has long understood what Ukraine really is today and how much “reliable” gas transit through Ukraine is.

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[Vasyan1971]

"The second argument in favor of maintaining railway communications with Moscow, Kava called the possible retaliatory measures of Russia that could cause damage to the Ukrainian economy by several billion hryvnias per year."
Yes Yes. And you want and prick ...

[rus-5819]

. Kiev is making a lot of efforts to convince Europe that is a reliable transit country for Russian gas to Europe, Kava explained, and refusal of railway communication with Russia may lead to the fact that in Europe they will begin to look for other ways of delivering Russian gas,

From the series: "In the elderberry garden, and in Kuev the uncle!"
He dumped everything in a heap of pipelines ..., trains .... Perhaps not soon Europe will sort this rubbish heap. And denyuzhku please - submit

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