All people are brothers. Favorable tale of today

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Have you ever thought, dear readers, about the fact that some words and concepts have eaten into our brain so much that they have become an axiom? An axiom whose correctness seems to be stupid. And why? This is the truth! Or, more applicable to our topic - dogma.





Every day you can hear from the television screens: "brotherly people", "help to the brotherly people", "at the head of the brotherly people are pro-American government" and the like.

It seems all around the brothers, but for some reason in case of which we are left alone with the danger. The brothers are disappearing! And appear. Then. When we, at the cost of many sacrifices and deprivations, we eliminate the danger.

Immediately, we note that all of the above applies to today. Events 75-year-old passed, steel history, they need to be remembered, but to cite as an example today is more than impractical. At least in the context in which we argue.

We translate: what happened, it was. It is what it is. Accordingly, all determine the realities of today. With all that it implies.

Actually, we want to talk about how we really brothers these above-mentioned "brotherly nations." Which, we note right away, have so much of us as they are, without particularly straining in terms of reckoning.

No, no one talks about joint wars, no. But even in the political wars from the "brothers" is not particularly help wait. In terms of the same vote in the UN. The principle of "own shirt" (robe, embroidery) closer to the body in the flesh.

That is, there is a series of actions and actions that in other times could well be called betrayal.

But we do not say that. Moreover, we often prefer not to even notice. We are a brotherly people. We'll take the last shirt off to hand over to the brothers. Themselves and live bare. And hungry. And the people did not betray. It was not the people's government that betrayed. We will speak with pleasure against this very government that has hidden in some western country. These are not brothers to us.

I wonder why the Americans have no brothers? Why do the Germans have no brothers? Even the Japanese somehow live without relatives. Live! And even richer than we are.

Our ideologues did their best. The ideas of internationalism are hammered into the heads of even those who have only heard about this concept. Even without understanding it, we continue to believe in what is not really. Anti-Russian ideas do not arise from the people. Everybody loves us.

Even a theory about the special mission of the Russian people has been created. We exist to save humanity! Nice of course. A sort of comic book characters. Only now, while we exist, others simply live ... And they don't give a damn about humanity ...

Strange, but "brotherly love" is almost always paid for with our blood. The blood of our soldiers. It is like a prerequisite for the emergence of fraternity. We save the people from total annihilation and get enemies through a historically rather short time.

No, they at the beginning become "brothers." Enemies afterwards. Such is the metamorphosis.

It is not worth enumerating those whom we helped to create our own states, to be saved as a people. Although the Finns, Georgians, Armenians, Lithuanians, Latvians and Estonians quietly fly in this category. But - not Slavs, so we just note the merits of our country in this matter.

But we are talking about today ...

Where did the fraternal Polish people go? With the brothers Bulgarians in general “House-2” in the flesh of some kind ... Serbian brothers, Montenegrins, Slovaks, Slovenes? On the "brothers" from the Arab world, we will talk separately.

The situation in which Russia is today has been created for a long time. Created by this very idea of ​​internationalism. Tsarist Russia, if it waged wars, then waged them for its own sake. For the sake of their interests. And the outcome of numerous wars were the acquisition or loss of Russia itself.

But mostly they were acquisitions. We began to fight for others after the socialist revolution.

We continue to play for the future. We listen to the whole record for one song. We are listening in the hope that others will be grateful to us for our patience. And they will answer us the same. Donate something for us, if necessary.

But it does not work that way. Others do not want to sacrifice. Look at how the rhetoric of the Armenian government is changing today. Is there a change in the people? No, there the people brought another government to power. People! And the wind of change blew. And he blew not in the direction of the "brotherly Russian people", but in the opposite direction.

And, of course, no fecal smell. The old government planted by Russia brought the country to a wave of popular anger. And the new is now fix everything, and brandy rivers will flow among the peach banks. We generally do not mind, good luck, of course, but there are nuances that we will talk about another time.

And what will happen if the wind still "inflates" Yerevan into NATO? With those soldiers and officers who today actually maintain peace in this region? That “live (yet) shield”? Become an occupier? Will they be driven out like naughty puppies? Perish in the conflict broke out? For what? Or for whom?

Americans, whatever we may say, perfectly assimilated simple truth. Any war, any international solution, and indeed all foreign policy should be at least self-sustaining. A good foreign policy should be profitable for the country. Profit! And not in perspective, but today, now!

For this you can use any means. From bribery and blackmail to direct invasion. This is not a game where the process is important. This is a work where the result is important! Result!

Look at this guy, the president of the United States, who put the whole world on his ears. Look at the result. He works! And it does its job well! Yes, the world is in a fever, the world is afraid, the world cannot calculate its next steps. So what?

Trump is not responsible for peace. He is deeply indifferent to the problems of the world. He is elected by the American people. He is chosen so that an American, a simple American, will live better. And he does it. For an American. For America.

And what about us? And we have gas in the apartment! Not all yet, but nonetheless.

And on the wave of oil and gas today we are best friends to the Arabs. We are helping the next brotherly people in the struggle for ...

Attention, the question. But seriously, with whom and for what are we fighting today in Syria?

Oh yes, we fight terrorism. Generously squandering their own resources (to hell with them, with airplanes and helicopters, probably still riveting, and probably) and, alas, we are losing our own citizens. What is more significant and weighty than ditched (mostly in non-combat situations) iron.

Today for us Syrians are a brotherly people. A little earlier there were Egyptians, Lebanese and others. And Iraqis. Also brothers. And then, after our treachery, the Iraqi brothers became the head of ISIS (banned in Russia) and gave fires. Everybody.

It is clear that the personnel officers who graduated from the Academy in the USSR and Russia, taking control of the herds of fanatics, could not but make them fighters. And the output turned out to be an army, with which we seem to be fighting, but to the creation of which we have twice put our hands. The first time, when they trained the entire former army of Saddam Hussein, the second time - when he was betrayed. And they ended up with thousands of officers who escaped to the terrorists.

You can criticize us, in the spirit of Channel One, they say, Saddam himself was bummed. Please, we do not mind. But the fact is difficult challenged on two issues.

I wonder if the Arabs have the right to disbelieve us now or not? Not Syrians, Lebanese, Egyptians, Qatari, but Arabs in general? Or will they conduct their own policy, independent of us, and of the United States and the EU? And exactly at that moment, when they realize their own strength, they will send us far away and for a long time.

Everyone understands that the war in this region is not against terrorism. Yes, and the terrorists, for the most part, are local clans, who simply want to control either the gas fields or the pipe through which the gas is transported.

That is why the actions of our negotiators on disarming gangs are so successful. Those who realized that it’s better to give up part than to lose everything are being disarmed. Such is the alternative today in Syria.

What are we? In the future, we may receive some contracts for the rehabilitation of cities and fields. And maybe not get it. And if we receive, it’s not we, but Gazprom, Rosneft, Lukoil and other joint-stock companies. No, who has shares of these companies, he, of course, will receive.

It is doubtful that President Assad does not understand that his oil is the basis of his independence. Let's help, build - and goodbye? And in the future again, "goodbye" in the style of Libya? Well, Assad hardly wants in the future for himself the fate of Hussein or Gaddafi. But have the same, if that.

Speaking about the Middle East, one can not but say about another important component of the overall picture. About Israel. Although, even if we do not say, there is someone who writes Israel, splashing saliva.

In general, Israel is a difficult question. And to say unequivocally, whether Israelis are friends with us or not, we will not undertake. Even despite the fact that a decent part of the population of our former.

However, with regards to Israel in general and its people in particular, we want to voice one thing. And at the same time to include Israel in the Middle East affairs, as one of the parties to the conflict.

Is it logical Full Israel wages war. But there is a small nuance: there is no oil in Israel. And yet, the Jews are fighting not for control over oil and gas fields, but for the preservation of their own state, their own people, if you like. That is why it was soon understood the essence and background of help from the USSR, the USA and others.

And if you put a number of Arabs and Jews? It is difficult to say how all of a sudden the Syrian brother became to us, that it was possible to give his life for him. Very difficult. Moreover, it is very difficult to say where the roots of this "fraternity" are. If everything is more or less clear with Belarusians and Ukrainians, it is possible to stretch this fraternity to Slovaks and Bulgarians, but somehow it is not clear to an Arab.

Maybe the Arabs in the past fought with us against the common enemy? No, we do not take Israel, this is not serious, and Israel was not the enemy of Russia and the Soviet Union. Brothers in faith? Well, someone, maybe, but not all. Built together, raised, revived? Also no.

It turns out that the expression about the "brotherly Syrian people" is nothing more than a marketing ploy from those who need it. This is a friendly people whose ruler simply hired the Russian army according to some agreements.

And that's fine. So many in the world do and many in the world earn it. True, the concept of "fraternal" is a little incomprehensible.

Well, absolutely letting go, let's put it like this: there, next to an Arab, a Jew is slightly higher in the text. Yes, the Jewish people themselves do not exactly consider themselves our brothers, but they persistently do not climb in them. Moreover, a huge part of this nation speaks the same language with us, moreover, the grandfathers and great-grandfathers of the modern “oppressors of the unfortunate Arabs” fought with the Russians against fascism. Anyway, then all the Jews were Soviet.

This is how you want, but this “poor” Palestinian, so that some of our readers shout there, is not very suitable for the role of a Russian brother. Even if he is a Palestinian, he is fighting the bloody Israeli regime in the name of some ideals there. He is Palestinian. Arabs. The same as the Egyptians, Libyans, Malians and others, who gladly took the USSR "on credit" with everything they needed, and after the Soviet Union started having certain problems, it was with great pleasure that they chose a different path.

That is, they found someone to start taking a loan.

In general, it is time for us to understand the fact that the world has changed and just became different. States have long been composed of a great many peoples. This explosive mixture is unstable. She is seething. Boils like lava in the crater of a volcano. Sometimes it explodes. Sometimes "falls asleep."

All our theories about ethnic unity are outdated. Today there are no pure national states left. Yes, and the stability of any state is easy to destroy, breaking the economic foundation. The world has long been divided economically, and not on some other basis.

And most importantly, those who eat well today absolutely do not want to eat worse so that someone does not go hungry. Today, for any piece of food, whether territorial, resource, you need to fight. Fight today, tomorrow, the day after tomorrow ...

So, it’s time to move from world problems, from strategy, to solving tactical tasks. There is a "piece" - you need to pick it up. Pull out the opponent's throat. It's time to take care of your own country, of your own people, of your own children.

And first of all, to tackle their own internal problems, which are more than enough in Russia. And the preservation and support of the welfare of some countries, by bringing our contingents there and forgiving multi-billion debts, must be postponed until better times.

Brothers, if they are brothers, must understand. "Brothers" will simply be forced to do without freebies and Russian blood for the sake of their interests.
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  1. +6
    6 August 2018 06: 29
    All people are brothers, but there are few resources on earth!
    1. 0
      6 August 2018 10: 50
      Briefly and clearly hi

  2. +8
    6 August 2018 06: 38
    "Brothers", "brothers" ... what for relatives are, I’d better be an orphan .... something like that crying
    1. +17
      6 August 2018 09: 27
      Yes, the Jewish people certainly do not consider themselves our brothers, but they do not creep into them insistently. Moreover, a huge part of this people speaks the same language with us, moreover, the grandfathers and great-grandfathers of the modern "oppressors of the unfortunate Arabs" fought together with the Russians against fascism. And indeed then all the Jews were Soviet.

      ??
      The first sentence of the paragraph is an unapplied truth.
      The last sentence is clearly overkill by the authors.
      Jews were also allies and active figures of Nazi Germany influencing the course and outcome of the war.
      According to generalized information, about 500 of thousands of Soviet Jews fought with the Nazis on the side of the USSR, about 150 thousand fought against Nazi Germany.

      PS Isolate 50 of the richest Jews and the war will end. © Henry Ford
      1. +5
        6 August 2018 09: 40
        Support for the anti-colonial struggle within the framework of the ideology prevailing in the USSR and the subsequent assertion of Soviet ideology, political, educational and methodological (training of military and political leaders), material and technical support (huge reserves of Soviet weapons and equipment) - all this was quite easily deployed against us or our interests, after the collapse of the Union.
        The feeder has closed.
        As an example, stop Russia "feeding" and "containing" Central Asia and we will see the genocide of the Slavic and Russian-speaking population, abruptly than at the beginning of the 1990.
        1. +12
          6 August 2018 10: 47
          But what about the 8 Guards Rifle Division - Panfilov? Kyrgyz and Russians, Kazakhs, Jews, and everyone who was a Soviet citizen fought there? The father of my comrade, Kazakh - Soviet paint, captain, three battle wounds, one of which is the heaviest in the head! He, bursting with his platoon to the front line of the Nazis, collided with a Wehrmacht officer in hand-to-hand combat and both shot at each other. He was almost buried alive! He, together with his soldiers from the multinational Union of the USSR / Russia, fought in the Great Patriotic War ... so that people like you, now, from the height of the Russian nationalist "Olympus" proclaim such nonsense?
          So WILL NOT! The USSR is Russia! And my fellow countrymen - Kazakhstanis, all, and Kazakhs, and Russians, and Cossacks, and Jews, and Germans, and all other nationalities - one RUSSIAN-SOVIET PEOPLE!
          So it was and so it will remain and will continue!

          Mouth Front! Get up the huge country! Get up to the mortal battle!
          1. +11
            6 August 2018 13: 54
            Peter Ivanov:
            ... from the heights of the Russian nationalist "Olympus" proclaimed such nonsense?
            So WILL NOT! The USSR is Russia!
            ... and all other nationalities - one RUSSIAN-SOVIET PEOPLE!

            This is your expression
            nonsense. The USSR is NOT Russia!
            ... and all other nationalities - NOT ONE RUSSIAN PEOPLE!
            SOVIET - YES! And, here's how Soviet peopledefended Soviet state, your state. Or did these people have a different choice?!
            Other nationalities will NOT understand you, if you call them Russian, they have different beliefs.
            The popular “brotherhood” and the common Soviet state ended with the collapse Union.
            And, here is the genocide / massacre of the Slavic / Russian and Russian-speaking population of the national suburbs and new national formations-states, at the beginning of the 1990's it showed who is worth what, and due to what.
            Russophobia has become the norm.
            1. +5
              6 August 2018 23: 06
              Quote: Pax tecum
              and all other nationalities - NOT ONE RUSSIAN PEOPLE!

              One of the latest examples is the number of people in Chechnya who came to the funeral of the killer of Colonel Yu. D. Budanov.
              1. +3
                7 August 2018 20: 34
                And what did you expect in the 27th year of capitalism in the Russian Federation? Capitalist and bankers benefit from cave nationalism! He is nurtured by capitalist authorities at all levels, including the so-called nat. republics of the Russian Federation! At first it was awakened in 15 republics at the all-Union level ... and the Union collapsed. Now in the republics of the Russian Federation! So how can it all end?
                1. -1
                  11 August 2018 13: 30
                  Quote: Pyotr Ivanov
                  He is nurtured by capitalist authorities at all levels, including the so-called nat. republics of the Russian Federation! At first it was awakened in 15 republics at the all-Union level ... and the Union collapsed.

                  But is it nothing that the communists were in power then?
            2. +2
              7 August 2018 20: 25
              Not only are you poorly educated and boast of it, you are also a nationalist -
              anti-adviser in a hurry with the transition to the lower stage - a cave chauvinist! Be careful citizen! The next stop is fascism!
              Yeah! This thing is terrible - Russian under-education! And the farther - the more affected, with an incomprehensible confusion in their heads! It’s a pity you, for such skilled puppeteers manage it!
              Learning is light! Try to read more! Better from the classics, and clever different opinions ... sometimes this puts the seeker in the way!
              With Bolshevik greetings! Mouth Front!
          2. +9
            6 August 2018 19: 59
            Quote: Pyotr Ivanov
            Kyrgyz and Russians, Kazakhs, Jews, and everyone who was a Soviet citizen fought there?

            Fought all the same? Yes, all this nonsense. Some nations fought more, others less.

            Pay attention to the last column, it indicates who fought and lost the most people (Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians, Tatars, Kazakhs, Jews, Chuvashs, Maris), and who fought less (Chechens, Ingush, Dagestanis, Azerbaijanis, Uzbeks) Very clear table.
            1. +4
              6 August 2018 20: 30
              And given that, for example, the BSSR was completely occupied already in August of the 41th, and simply could not physically supply fighters until the 44th year, unlike the Uzbeks, it becomes even sadder.
              1. +2
                6 August 2018 20: 34
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                And given that, for example, the BSSR was fully occupied as early as August 41st, and simply couldn’t physically supply fighters until the 44th year

                This also applies to Ukraine, but after the liberation there was a mobilization.
                1. +1
                  7 August 2018 20: 46
                  But what about the Belarusians and Ukrainians in the table?
                  1. +3
                    7 August 2018 21: 27
                    Quote: Pyotr Ivanov
                    But what about the Belarusians and Ukrainians in the table?

                    What is the meaning of your question?
              2. +1
                6 August 2018 23: 10
                Quote: mordvin xnumx
                And given that, for example, the BSSR was completely occupied already in August of the 41th, and simply could not physically supply fighters until the 44th year, unlike the Uzbeks, it becomes even sadder.

                Yes, in Belarus by that time there were all sorts of "Republic of Zuev"
                1. +1
                  7 August 2018 20: 49
                  Yes! It is felt that today in Russia the unrecognized "Republic of Dur A Coff" is being formed!
            2. +2
              7 August 2018 20: 44
              Nonsense and stupidity! 100% I'm terry anti-Soviet !!! Or you see something in the table that you are not able to understand and appreciate! Whoever didn’t live in the Union, there’s nothing to meddle with your “dissenting” opinion; you don’t understand this!
              We would go to school, only in good ...
              1. +1
                7 August 2018 21: 31
                Quote: Pyotr Ivanov
                Nonsense and stupidity!

                Bare numbers
                Quote: Pyotr Ivanov
                100% I'm terry anti-Soviet !!!

                and they don't care about your tantrum
                Quote: Pyotr Ivanov
                You do not understand this!

                And you explain what is wrong with this table? And how to "correctly" understand it!
                1. 0
                  8 August 2018 12: 55
                  Good afternoon!
                  Everything is in order with the table! But with your understanding of these data ... The table shows the numbers not of “those peoples of the USSR who Fought FOR THE BEST THAN ALL”, but the quantitative composition of the nationalities and peoples of the Union in the active units, formations and associations of the Red Army / USSR of the USSR in the Second World War!
                  In general, the question is completely incorrect and incorrect: "which peoples of the USSR fought more"! Is that Kazakhs fought for 5 hours a day and Ingush 2 ??? Rave!
                  In our Union, there was equality of all before all, this was also determined by the internationalism of Soviet people. And no one thought who gained the most, fought! In one trench were all!

                  For Our Soviet Motherland!
                  1. +2
                    8 August 2018 14: 51
                    Quote: Pyotr Ivanov
                    In our Union, there was equality of all before all, this was also determined by the internationalism of Soviet people.

                    Initially, a crazy idea that could not be implemented.
                    Quote: Pyotr Ivanov
                    then, Kazakhs fought for 5 hours a day and Ingush 2 ???

                    This means that approximately one in twenty of the Russians or Ukrainians died, of the fortieth of the Azerbaijanis, and of every two of the Chechens and Ingushs. Some of the nations of the USSR did not even notice the Great Patriotic War and did not have a funeral in each family.
            3. +1
              8 August 2018 18: 37
              Quote: Setrac
              Pay attention to the last column, it indicates who fought and lost the most people (Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians, Tatars, Kazakhs, Jews, Chuvashs, Maris), and who fought less (Chechens, Ingush, Dagestanis, Azerbaijanis, Uzbeks) Very clear table.

              The table is visual, I agree. But one must still understand that in the 40s of the XX century, a significant percentage of citizens from the Union republics still knew very little Russian, or even did not know. Naturally, people who are not able to quickly understand what they want from them are not desirable at the front, and they are more often used in the rear. This is one of the reasons why the citizens of the SA and the Caucasus have a lower death rate than the Slavic Tatars and Jews.
              And yet - during the WWII, the aliens practically did not participate in the war, and the attempt to attract the inhabitants of the SA at least to the rear operations ended in a massive uprising of 1916.
              Therefore, the progress in the desire of foreigners to fight side by side with the Russians during the years of Soviet power was enormous.
          3. +5
            6 August 2018 20: 49
            Quote: Peter Ivanov
            But what about the 8 Guards Rifle Division - Panfilov? Kyrgyz and Russians, Kazakhs, Jews, and everyone who was a Soviet citizen fought there? The father of my comrade, Kazakh - Soviet paint, captain, three battle wounds, one of which is the heaviest in the head! He, bursting with his platoon to the front line of the Nazis, collided with a Wehrmacht officer in hand-to-hand combat and both shot at each other. He was almost buried alive! He, together with his soldiers from the multinational Union of the USSR / Russia, fought in the Great Patriotic War ... so that people like you, now, from the height of the Russian nationalist "Olympus" proclaim such nonsense?
            So WILL NOT! The USSR is Russia! And my fellow countrymen - Kazakhstanis, all, and Kazakhs, and Russians, and Cossacks, and Jews, and Germans, and all other nationalities - one RUSSIAN-SOVIET PEOPLE!
            So it was and so it will remain and will continue!

            Mouth Front! Get up the huge country! Get up to the mortal battle!


            So far, people like you are in Russia, such Kazakhs (and probably Tuvans and Tatars and Bashkirs and Caucasians and all others) like I will always be with you !!! drinks Together we are strong. The enemy will always try to divide us
            1. +2
              7 August 2018 20: 52
              We’ll stand on that, comrade!
          4. +5
            7 August 2018 05: 41
            Quote: Pyotr Ivanov
            So WILL NOT! The USSR is Russia! And my fellow countrymen - Kazakhstanis, all, and Kazakhs, and Russians, and Cossacks, and Jews, and Germans, and all other nationalities - one RUSSIAN-SOVIET PEOPLE!
            So it was and so it will remain and will continue!
            Mouth Front! Get up the huge country! Get up to the mortal battle!


            The tank commander was Russian, gunner from Ukraine, fur. waters - Uzbek. And my great-grandfather, Kazakh, is a shooter radio operator. So the whole crew and burned near Königsberg.

            When there were buses in the us with places for blacks. We have given way. Elderly, pregnant. And it doesn’t matter - Uzbek, Tajik, Georgian. Not important. She is elderly or pregnant. And that's it.

            I very much doubt that the American would give way to a pregnant African-American. Or the elderly.

            Freedom Angela Davis !!!
            1. +2
              7 August 2018 20: 53
              Exactly, comrade!
              Mouth Front! For Our Soviet Motherland!
        2. +4
          7 August 2018 13: 18
          Quote: Pax tecum

          The feeder has closed.
          As an example, stop Russia "feeding" and "containing" Central Asia and we will see the genocide of the Slavic and Russian-speaking population, abruptly than at the beginning of the 1990.

          There is no one to genocide. As in Grozny.
          But the article did not like. Cons time to return.
          Tsarist Russia, if it waged wars, then waged them for its own sake. For the sake of their interests. And the results of numerous wars were the gain or loss of Russia itself ... We began to fight for others after the socialist revolution ...

          History - 2. The 1st World War, the war with Turkey over the "brothers" -Bulgar, the Seven Years War (1756 - 1763) with Prussia. And what kind of war did the USSR wage for the sake of others?
          Attention, the question. But seriously, with whom and for what are we fighting today in Syria?

          For oil for our oligarchs and politicians
          1. -1
            7 August 2018 13: 27
            Quote: Sunflower
            For oil for our oligarchs and politicians

            Not this way No.
            1. +2
              7 August 2018 21: 07
              Exactly! 26 years of capitalism in the Russian Federation !!!
              1. -1
                7 August 2018 21: 13
                Quote: Pyotr Ivanov
                That is how

                Go ... unite already, or something ... in your mouth front stop
          2. +2
            7 August 2018 21: 01
            And there is! Under different conditions, Comrade Bassad would have been merged, just as they had let Colonel Gaddafi merge! But together with Tram Polino Kim will be merged! How to merge!

            The capitalist of the Russian Federation to the capitalist of the SGA, the eye will not peck!

            Workers of all countries unite!
          3. -1
            9 August 2018 23: 07
            "With whom and for what we are fighting today in Syria" - Reply to the author. You don’t fight for anything there, because you and your kind are not there, you just scribble empty and garbage articles - "one day nonsense" - every day, every day, and those who fight in Syria, shedding sweat and breaking expensive metal, they are fighting global terrorism, which poses a threat, including to Russia.
      2. +3
        6 August 2018 10: 42
        According to generalized information


        Well, since they began to draw numbers, then bring the source.
        By the way, from the same source: 150 thousand = 60 thousand (for whom Jews have a father or mother) + 90 thousand (for whom Jews are a grandmother or grandfather).

        I will not argue about the fact that before making any far-reaching conclusions, especially when it comes to history (all the same, you should draw information and facts from more than ONE source, cross and cross this information), it will be more interesting if I become like you! Well, like I’ll manipulate the numbers to look smart and a patriot of something there wassat

        Generally speaking, from my sources and calculations, I just calculated on a calculator, I didn’t know that it’s possible, but you can also mean it to me laughing

        Tsar of Russia, the last emperor was a relative of the Germans, many people escaped after the revolution to Europe, in short, grandfathers and grandmothers all mixed up with everyone - half-Germans are half-Slavs and there are still many halves that are important for my research, I added here means the Vlasovites, those who came to captured and simply from another ancient bald, there the Scythians, Varangians, the Golden Horde remembered, added the orcs of the gnomes and elves (well, this is fashionable and important for young people) And .... the verdict ...

        It turns out that the Wehrmacht served 12 million Slavs, half-Slavs or quarter-Slavs, and 2 million were completely Russian semi-Russian or third-Russian.

        PS (PS as it is not in Russian) Isolate 50 of the most false patriots and bad posts will end. © I
        1. +9
          6 August 2018 13: 26
          xander:
          PS (PS as it is not in Russian) Isolate 50 of the most false patriots and bad posts will end. © I

          PS-Latin script script (after written), the language used in science, albeit dead, in medicine, history, etc. Of course, not in Russian, but it’s accepted.
          And, your PS is PS, typed in Russian layout.
          This is so for the seed of Jewish nature.
          Well, and the rest of your dictum — typically Jewish behavior — mixed everything together.

          And as always, they are trying to convince that there is no Russian ethnic group. So, here is the dear Jew, there is a science of ethnology, ethnography, where even the types of faces of the Russian ethnos are depicted, and there is genetics.
          No one denies the Simito-Hamitic type and groups.
          1. +5
            6 August 2018 13: 33
            Remember the Jews!
            Russians are one of the largest peoples of the world, a “state-forming" ethnic group.

            PS Learn science properly.

            For example, some (not all) anthropological types of the Russian ethnos. Blonde - the North European part, .. etc.
            Learn at your leisure, interesting.
            Well, do not forget genetics.
          2. +3
            6 August 2018 14: 13
            PS is it a dog? Yes, it can’t be belay

            And as always, they are trying to convince that there is no Russian ethnic group


            Some kind of paranoia, who tried to convince you of something, give me a quote.

            And don’t poke at me with types of faces, I don’t care what shape you have ethnorozha, the length of your genetically acquired nose and whether your ears are bitten in the process of evolution. laughing

            And you, my friend, are closer to Nazism than to the national patriot you are trying to make yourself appear.
            1. +10
              6 August 2018 14: 50
              xander:
              And you, my friend, are closer to Nazism than to the national patriot who are trying to expose yourself

              Correct you. Not closer to Nazism, but to nationalism, if you understand the difference (and it is significant), to normal healthy nationalism, quite moderate (for now).
              I prefer living in a homogeneous cultural and ethno-religious environment. Comfortable, you know.
              Sorry, I'm not different in tolerance and commitment to multiculturalism. Beliefs.
              1. +2
                6 August 2018 21: 00
                Quote: Pax tecum
                I prefer living in a homogeneous cultural and ethno-religious environment. Comfortable, you know.

                You can’t say better. Absolutely correct point of view
                1. 0
                  7 August 2018 21: 13
                  Nationalism is the beginning! The final stop is Fascism and the Buchenwald gas chambers! But the trial, the Roar of the Tribunal ... is just around the corner!

                  All Power to the Soviets! For Our Soviet Motherland!
              2. 0
                8 August 2018 00: 18
                and you know, even though I'm not Russian, but I absolutely agree with you !!! Russians are the state forming the nation and, on this basis, Russians in Russia simply must be the titular nation and this should be enshrined in laws .. weak minds do not understand that Russians are becoming less and less and more detached from their roots and their culture .. as soon as national minorities will become a majority Russia will fall apart and it will be bad for everyone, without exception ... so give birth to more children, play sports, get rid of this damned matriarchy that was imposed on you, sing your songs and then Mother Russia will live !!!!!!!
                1. +3
                  8 August 2018 14: 53
                  Quote: aws4
                  weak minds don't understand that Russian is getting smaller

                  When the number of Russians drops to a certain percentage, the Russian Federation will simply fall apart.
                  1. 0
                    8 August 2018 22: 39
                    I completely agree with you .. national minorities that will become the majority will simply tear Russia apart .. it will be a civil war between nations and nationalities and the center will not be able to do anything .. after the collapse, Europe, America and China will not only arrange the division of territories and resources .. internationalism is good, but not in this historical cycle in which Russia is located !!!
                    1. 0
                      8 August 2018 22: 56
                      Quote: aws4
                      aws4

                      So the diviners divorced ... Cassandra is sitting on horseback on Nostradamus, and Wangoy is chasing laughing
                      1. +1
                        8 August 2018 23: 37
                        and where does it? you just need to be able to analyze and know well the peoples with whom you live in the same country .. obviously I am familiar with the mentality of other nations, especially those living in our south, but you don’t ... if it’s more convenient for you, you can continue to live in your fictional world .. obviously you are an optimist and I am a pessimist
              3. 0
                8 August 2018 18: 48
                Quote: Pax tecum
                I prefer living in a homogeneous cultural and ethno-religious environment.

                This type, should our country shrink to the size of the Moscow principality?
            2. +1
              8 August 2018 18: 46
              What are you, what are you! What are in Natsik! I was given warnings not so long ago when I dared to say that Natsik live in laughing
              1. +1
                8 August 2018 22: 44
                Do not confuse the Nazis with the nationalists ... I believe that without moderate nationalism, any nation is doomed to death. !!! you just don’t like the Russian people, but I love because I was born and raised among them
          3. 0
            7 August 2018 05: 31
            Quote: Xander
            PS (PS as it is not in Russian)


            Quote: Pax tecum
            Of course not in Russian


            Duck there and the flag is not really Russian.
        2. +2
          6 August 2018 23: 17
          PS (PS as it is not in Russian) Isolate the 50 most false patriots and bad posts will end. © I "

          Ingenious. I propose to write this phrase in gold letters into the world culture fund. Seriously.
      3. 0
        6 August 2018 14: 59
        Quote: Pax tecum
        about 150 thousand fought on the side of Nazi Germany against the USSR.

        Provided that there were about 500 thousand Jews in Germany, it turns out that approximately every third German Jew fought in the Wehrmacht. Israel, where both women and men serve, nervously smokes on the sidelines with such percentages of mobilization.
      4. +4
        6 August 2018 19: 57
        Quote: Pax tecum
        Isolate the 50 richest Jews and the war will stop. © Henry Ford

        This Henry seems to be a very smart guy ...
        1. +4
          6 August 2018 21: 38
          Not stupid at all. VERMAHT rode on its Fords until it was completely defeated. Therefore, he was an enemy, but he was not a fool.
    2. -1
      6 August 2018 13: 59
      Brothers "," brothers "... what for relatives are, I’ll be better an orphan ....

      Western ideology has taken root in fragile minds. Russia is different in that it brings the good and God's word !! We are an example to the whole world, not the west with America, but WE .. here we will defeat evil and people will live like brothers !!! Just while they are corrupted by the diabolical West.
      1. +3
        6 August 2018 23: 20
        "Let’s defeat evil and people will live like brothers !!!" - you the government will learn how to choose at least the normal
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  4. +15
    6 August 2018 07: 40
    I usually agree with Roman in everything. However...
    The situation in which Russia is today has been created for a long time. Created by this very idea of ​​internationalism. Tsarist Russia, if it waged wars, then waged them for its own sake. For the sake of their interests. And the outcome of numerous wars were the acquisition or loss of Russia itself.
    . But what about the Russo-Turkish wars in the name of "fraternal" Bulgaria, "fraternal" Romania ... In the name of "fraternal" Serbia, they already entered the world war. In Russian Poland, serfdom was abolished much earlier than in Russia itself. It’s better to be silent about Finland.
    1. +4
      6 August 2018 10: 47
      Quote: iury.vorgul
      In the name of "fraternal" Serbia, they climbed into the world war.

      In this historical case, there was another brother. Brother Kolya was asked by brother Georges. Brother Kolya could not refuse brother George (the English king). Anglo-Saxon, as usual, threw his brother Nicholas. The result is two world wars, twice the collapse of our country.
      Here is such fraternal help. wink
      1. +1
        6 August 2018 20: 44
        Quote: For example
        Brother Kolya was asked by brother Georges. Brother Kolya could not refuse brother George (the English king).

        As a result, brother Georges Willy declared war on his brother Kolya, and Kolya attacked Willy. wink
    2. +5
      6 August 2018 16: 04
      Well, are you too attracted. The Russian-Turkish wars were fought not so much for the "brothers" as for the Crimea and the Caucasus. And - which is typical - it seems like it happened.
      1. +3
        6 August 2018 16: 22
        Quote: Banshee
        Russian-Turkish wars were fought not so much for the "brothers" as for the Crimea and the Caucasus.

        It certainly happened. As a result, two empires have sunk into oblivion. Now the remnants of its former power are fighting among themselves a tomato war. And the Caucasus and Bulgaria are sitting under the Anglo-Saxons. And in the territories of the former empires, wars are still going on - Syria, Ukraine.
        So that you are absolutely right - it turned out. They did a lot.
  5. +5
    6 August 2018 07: 42
    And first of all, to deal with the solution of their own internal problems, which are more than enough in Russia.
    ..... It smelled like smoke of perestroika ... A popular slogan about solving internal problems .. at that time .. These problems, internal ones, will be dealt with by Gazprom, Rosneft, Lukoil and other joint-stock companies ..?
  6. +5
    6 August 2018 07: 45
    Strange article. But in one I agree - it is necessary to solve internal issues, it has painfully many problems accumulated. It’s not an hour as the “people”, correctly guided by the “west wind” who has become highly experienced in these matters, will elect a new government.
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  7. +9
    6 August 2018 08: 14
    [/ quote] "We began to fight for others after the socialist revolution." [quote]

    I’m embarrassed to ask, did you get into World War I because of whom? Or was it already after the socialist revolution?
    1. +4
      6 August 2018 08: 44
      Well then, you climb to the author with stupid questions! He clearly wrote
      Tsarist Russia, if it waged wars, then waged them for its own sake. For the sake of their interests.

      Everything, thank you all, everyone is free ...
  8. +3
    6 August 2018 08: 35
    Quote: R. Skomorokhov, A. Staver
    And first of all, to deal with the solution of their own internal problems, which are more than enough in Russia. And the preservation and support of the welfare of some countries by introducing our contingents there and forgiving billions of dollars in debt should be postponed until better times.

    There are no first or second bursts. Like there: "Politics is a continuation of the economy." The authors of the article, you, allegedly advocate improving the welfare of citizens, advocate curtailing foreign policy - for curtailing the foreign economy. Do you think that we will live better from this?
    Putin, conducting a foreign policy, affects domestic politics. Liberals, led by Medvedev, pursuing domestic policy, significantly weaken the ability to pursue a foreign policy. The journalist simply cannot understand this. And if you understand and still write this, then the question arises - whose agent are you? Whose mill are you pouring water on?
    A vivid example of how you can only deal with domestic politics and spit on your neighbors is Israel, which is constantly waging war with its neighbors. For him, until he changes his foreign policy, better times will never come.
    Are you calling us to this? No, thanks. Better to trade with neighbors than to fight. But there is trade, there is foreign policy.
    1. +5
      6 August 2018 10: 59
      Pu T N and Medvedeff - twin brothers plus their dad - Eltzing! Cherry from the apple tree does not fall far!

      All Power to the Soviets! Rot Front! Workers of all countries, unite!
      1. +3
        6 August 2018 11: 03
        Quote: Pyotr Ivanov
        Pu Ti N and Medvedeff are twin brothers

        Snack. The only thing they are similar to is the choice of the capitalist path, only some for the sake of their foreign masters, while others themselves want Russia to have.
      2. -2
        6 August 2018 14: 01
        Quote: Pyotr Ivanov
        All Power to the Soviets! Rot Front! Workers of all countries, unite!

        Do you want to take away bread from the disguised Lenins on Red Square? Go out to the Kremlin and scream. The site anonymously all the heroes)))
        1. 0
          7 August 2018 21: 18
          You teach your grandmother to cook your cabbage soup, you are our anti-hero!
  9. +8
    6 August 2018 08: 41
    Tsarist Russia, if it waged wars, then waged them for its own sake. For the sake of their interests.

    And then Ostap suffered (s). After this phrase further reading does not make sense.
    1. +3
      6 August 2018 09: 51
      In WWI, Russia fulfilled its allied obligations to Serbia.
      But, the main cause of the war was the contradiction between the two coalitions of European powers - the Entente (Russia, England and France) and the Triple Alliance (Germany, Austria-Hungary and Italy), caused by the intensification of the struggle for the redivision of already divided colonies, spheres of influence and markets. Beginning in Europe, where the main events took place, it gradually acquired a global character, covering also the Far and Near East, Africa, the waters of the Atlantic, Pacific, Arctic and Indian oceans.

      But! And even at the end of the war, if Comrade Lenin V.I. If we didn’t start distributing territories and “giving freedom”, then we would still have annexed lands and, probably, could have avoided a civil war, bypassing the military’s discontent with such a policy.
      1. +1
        7 August 2018 10: 47
        And even at the end of the war, if Comrade Lenin V.I. If we didn’t start distributing territories and “giving freedom”, then we would still have annexed lands and, probably, could have avoided a civil war, bypassing the military’s dissatisfaction with such a policy.

        There is a good saying "If, yes, if only mushrooms would grow in your mouth."
      2. +2
        7 August 2018 15: 59
        Quote: Pax tecum
        And even at the end of the war, if Comrade Lenin V.I. If we didn’t start distributing territories and “giving freedom”, then we would still have annexed lands and, probably, could have avoided a civil war, bypassing the military’s dissatisfaction with such a policy.

        It was thanks to Lenin’s policy that we were able to save the country, unlike other empires. Yes, we are not an empire, but one state. And I hope that over time the rest of the countries that have left us will join us.
        1. 0
          7 August 2018 21: 20
          Rather ... unite in the New Union! And the mistakes made We will fix!

          For Our Soviet Motherland!
    2. +1
      6 August 2018 15: 22
      Quote: Gepirion
      And then Ostap suffered (s). After this phrase further reading does not make sense.

      That's it. For the sake of whom Suvorov crossed the Alps.
      1. 0
        7 August 2018 10: 46
        Yeah, for the faith, the king and the fatherland. I was always wondering why the fatherland comes last. Here in WWII they shouted for their homeland!
  10. +4
    6 August 2018 08: 56
    Tsarist Russia, if it waged wars, then waged them for its own sake. For the sake of their interests.

    Especially in the Balkans ...

    Slavic peoples and states have always been considered brothers for Russia. So the authors are confusing something ...
  11. +4
    6 August 2018 09: 10
    I don’t know how about fraternity, but in this way we can get to the point that we needed Afghanistan. He, too, was declared as an outstretched helping hand. Looking at the situation now, I believe that it was impossible to leave Afghanistan. Now there are bases in the USA and drugs from there rushing with dushmans. In terms of defense, we lost the withdrawal of troops. So do we need Syria and the Donbass?
    As for whoever, let brother decide for himself.
    1. +6
      6 August 2018 09: 25
      Quote: igorbrsv
      . Looking at the situation now, I believe that it was impossible to leave Afghanistan

      But paradoxically, if you had stayed in Afghanistan, it would have saved people losses (heroin) and material (damage from heroin) at times ..
      1. +6
        6 August 2018 10: 33
        Talking about fraternal peoples is more for domestic consumption, foreign policy is pragmatic, but now our rulers forgive Soviet debts left and right, under the pretext that it is impossible to collect them, and after all, unpaid debt is a good incentive to maintain loyalty to the creditor
        1. +1
          6 August 2018 10: 50
          Quote: KERMET
          unpaid debt is a good incentive to maintain creditor loyalty

          No.
          But the written-off debt - finally allows you to start trading normally with this country.
          Feel the difference wink
          1. +1
            7 August 2018 05: 32
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            But the written-off debt - finally allows you to start trading normally with this country.
            Feel the difference

            And, the presence of debt, completely prohibits normal trading? You tell our banks this!
          2. +2
            7 August 2018 16: 04
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            But the written-off debt - finally allows you to start trading normally with this country.

            Exactly. I have long been offering Sberbank a mortgage loan, he does not agree and the tension between us is growing, which ultimately prevents him from functioning normally, because if he had a mortgage loan, I would have taken another loan.
        2. +3
          6 August 2018 10: 54
          Why forgive. Today it is impossible to recover, tomorrow it is possible.
          1. 0
            6 August 2018 11: 51
            Quote: hhhhhhh
            Why forgive

            I repeat:
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            written-off debt - finally allows you to start trading normally with this country

            Quote: hhhhhhh
            Today you can’t recover, tomorrow you can

            “Union” debts (which were mainly written off to Cuba, for example) were initially hopeless. In terms of their return, that is.
            Like this...
            1. +2
              6 August 2018 12: 55
              Let them give it in 100 years.
            2. +4
              6 August 2018 21: 26
              Everything can be exacted; Cuba has no money; there is sugar, tobacco, rum. Yes, with all Africans, you can even charge a duty with wooden figurines. Not to mention leasing due to the debt of mines, military bases and the shelf.
              1. 0
                7 August 2018 21: 22
                So start with the statuettes!
        3. AUL
          +2
          6 August 2018 15: 20
          Quote: KERMET
          Talking about fraternal peoples is more for domestic consumption, foreign policy is pragmatic, but now our rulers forgive Soviet debts left and right, under the pretext that it is impossible to collect them, and after all, unpaid debt is a good incentive to maintain loyalty to the creditor

          This talk about fraternal peoples is a long-standing Soviet tradition! Over time, only the motivation for this “fraternity” changes. In the pre-war era, money was swelled into the Comintern and the pro-communist parties. We are on the mountain to blow up the fire of all the bourgeois! The fire somehow did not flare up, the money was written off ... In the post-war times, money began to be pumped into the underdeveloped countries - Arabs, Africa, etc. (I’m not talking about the countries of Eastern Europe, this is a separate issue). So that they go to build socialism, and they firmly promised us this, as soon as they get off the palm trees, they will begin to build! Again a bummer, they didn’t build it, but they took the money willingly. True, we did not plan to repay debts, and we didn’t really hope for that. Dolgt was restructured (forgiven) - like, anyway, there’s nothing to take from them. Now again we climb without soap to help anyone who gets in, knowing in advance that they will not return debts and will not say thanks. It would seem - why? And the answer is simple! There is such a word - "rollback". Under it, you can give a lot of state money into a deliberately bad debt. And that their people are sitting with a naked waist, so who is looking at this, the problems of the Sheriff Indians do not care!
      2. +1
        6 August 2018 11: 56
        Isn't it easier to block traffic than to keep a strong contingent of troops and constantly fight with the "freedom fighters of the Afghan people" from around the world generously sponsored by the west?
        1. +1
          8 August 2018 04: 12
          Not easier. It’s easier to destroy opium fields and warehouses than to catch caravans on thousands of kilometers of mountainous corrupt borders.
      3. +1
        6 August 2018 12: 19
        Quote: max702
        if they stayed in Afghanistan it would have saved many times human losses (heroin) and material (damage from heroin) ..
        And the human and material losses from maintaining the database against the numerous "fighters for the freedom of the Afghan people" generously sponsored by the West and Middle Eastern monarchies, Iran and Turkey?
        1. 0
          8 August 2018 04: 13
          Over 10 years of the war, 15000 people were lost. Over a year, 100 thousand die from drugs. The only reinforced concrete fact about the expediency of finding our troops there
      4. +3
        6 August 2018 15: 23
        Quote: max702
        But paradoxically, if you had stayed in Afghanistan, it would have saved people losses (heroin) and material (damage from heroin) at times ..

        would you agree to send your son to serve in Afghanistan?
        1. +2
          7 August 2018 21: 23
          And who would ask you! That's why it is a duty!
  12. +5
    6 August 2018 10: 33
    "All people are brothers. A profitable fairy tale of today." A profitable fairy tale??
    "Article" is an ordinary provocation! How many, in Our Soviet times, did we hear these nationalistic nonsense !? And especially these "opinions" are imposed on the Soviet-Russian people, at the time of swaying or a direct split in the brains of many, as in the 1980s or today! Still, for capitalists and bankers, the unity of different nations, like a sickle in ganada! They, arch, benefit from the separation of peoples up to interpersonal (remember Yugoslavia and what was left of it and became with the peoples of the One, mighty country !?), then, it is easier to take a simple worker by the throat ...
    Yes, from the ideal - only intentions! Friendship of Peoples, for any Soviet (from the USSR, Czechoslovakia, Mongolia and other socialist countries, and the left of all progressive humanity) IS NOT AN EMPTY SOUND / PHRASE! This is reality! And this reality has taken place! And it will develop! And especially when the Bolsheviks take power in the Russian Federation!

    All Power to the Soviets! For the dictatorship of the proletariat!
  13. +1
    6 August 2018 10: 54
    Our ideologists did a good job. The ideas of internationalism are driven into the heads of even those who have only heard about this concept.
    What is the author trying to drive into our head? The lack of sentiment about the dead people, like the inhabitants of the well-fed West. In order not to be indignant over how, for the sake of the interests of the Oligarchy, soldiers are bombing and dying.
  14. +2
    6 August 2018 10: 55
    Still would! He stole one road to London / Israel. Still, Jews stand above the Russians. Especially if you look more closely at the owners of the looted Russia. It’s time to stop the song about the Great Patriotic War in national issues today. As soon as this bagpipes start, they either steal or will already steal stole and share something.
  15. +6
    6 August 2018 11: 00
    Attention, the question. But seriously, with whom and for what are we fighting today in Syria?

    Skomorokhov, as usual, forgot what he wrote 4 years ago and perfectly revealed the reasons for our help to Syria. Let me remind you, Roman: For the sake of preventing the construction of a gas pipeline from Qatar to Europe, including so that terrorism does not enter our borders, and for the sake of which we don’t know much. And this is not help, but pragmatic cooperation. Read your own (?) Articles 4 years ago at VO. And much will become clear to you. laughing
    1. +3
      6 August 2018 14: 08
      Akuzenka
      ... including so that terrorism does not come to our borders, and indeed for the sake of which we do not know much. And this is not help, but pragmatic cooperation.

      Let me remind you that the so-called terrorism came to us (not that it crossed the borders, but rather came) long before Syria, at the beginning of the 1990's (Caucasus, Central Asia), with the help of Turkey, the Arab states and the USA.
      In the same Czech Republic was the "international" of the Islamists.
      Destruction of the so-called terrorists and Islamic fanatics (from the Russian Federation and the CIS countries that could penetrate us) in the place of their concentration, Syria, are a very smart and pragmatic move.
      ... And this is not help, but pragmatic cooperation.

      Well, geopolitics is all.
    2. +2
      6 August 2018 14: 52
      Quote: AKuzenka
      Skomorokhov, as usual, forgot what he wrote 4 years ago

      A journalist is a profession for gutta-percha people who are able to mimic the demands of the market under the "malice of the day". Market.......
  16. +2
    6 August 2018 11: 10
    Well, there is no well-established political vocabulary among the figures from the EP, so the wording of the CPSU is borrowed. Just. What is the difference, in what exactly terms, the ruling elite of any country (including the United States) justifies international shares, be it power or financial?
    The electorate is all alone than these anti-constitutional (the constitution is so and so for each country a purely internal charter) actions of the authorities can not protest. Democracy w!)
  17. 0
    6 August 2018 11: 26
    Even the theory of the special mission of the Russian people has been created. We exist in order to save humanity!
    We are helping everyone. When asked. When they don’t ask, we help too. © V. Suvorov
    PS - as far as I know, the Chinese have no concept of BROTHER. There is a younger brother and an older brother - and everything is clear to everyone who should steer. But the "brotherly" people of Gondelupi naturally have a question - who are we? Younger? And do not you go, elders, to hell, but first we will shoe you all over the country.
    1. +2
      6 August 2018 21: 04
      Just Chinese nationalism is the basis of prosperity. The Chinese are great patriots
  18. +3
    6 August 2018 11: 31
    Cool article! The meaning of the article about non-grossing is Russian brothers and forever with a Jew!))))) In the misunderstanding of Staver and Skomorokhov, Russia is not fighting for fraternity in Syria, but for its interests and not only in the fight against terrorism, but from the economic component, I can’t believe it at all! Well, about brotherhood and internationalism generously paid with Russian blood for the sake of others and about the leaky memory of these others, it’s not enough, it’s time to get down to business! And about the fact that Israel was not our enemy ... This is also how to look! Here not so long ago there were some topics in which "our Jewish brothers" fervently and with obvious pleasure commented on how the Israeli Air Force shot down Soviet planes ... Such a zagagulin! This is me to the fact that there is nothing to rush from one extreme to another!
    1. 0
      6 August 2018 15: 11
      Quote: Oper
      fervently and with obvious pleasure commented on how the Israeli air forces shot down Soviet aircraft ...

      Israel did wrong in that situation?
      1. +2
        6 August 2018 16: 54
        Did I comment on that situation ?! I commented on the words of the authors that it turns out that Israel was not our enemy ... Read carefully if you are already undertaking to comment!
        1. 0
          6 August 2018 17: 23
          Quote: Oper

          Did I comment on that situation ?! I commented on the authors' words that it turns out that Israel was not our enemy ...

          And now, do you think Israel is also an enemy of Russia?
          1. +1
            6 August 2018 19: 44
            And what do you think Israel is a friend of Russia?
            There are specific state interests, they may or may not coincide (in most cases), and the Marxist canoe regarding internationalism is ... it's time to forget. Once upon a time, the USSR had half the world as a "friend" - and so what? Helped ???
            1. +1
              6 August 2018 23: 32
              But he did not say that Israel is a friend of Russia. He asked you if he was an enemy to us.

              In addition to friends and enemies, there are still allies, neutral, etc.
              1. 0
                7 August 2018 06: 33
                Do you need to chew? The concept friend in international relations - nonsense! With the exception of its own army, aviation and navy.
                1. 0
                  7 August 2018 12: 26
                  "Do you need to chew? A friend in international relations is nonsense!" - I just don’t need to chew it, I understand that very well.

                  "With the exception of their own army, aviation and navy" - 1917 showed that even they are unreliable)
                  1. 0
                    7 August 2018 12: 33
                    That is why Glavpur is now being restored.
  19. +2
    6 August 2018 11: 39
    ambiguous, although the author hints that it would not hurt to think about the real interests of the country, the hint is fair, the said relatives are very doubtful, getting rid of panbratism ...., yes, this is in Leninist terms - to unite, you need to separate ..., the correct message, but is it ready the Russian leadership to defend the interests of their country or continue to go in the wake of the world liberal fraternity --- this is a big question
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  22. +3
    6 August 2018 14: 46
    "Today, for us, the Syrians are a brotherly people."
    This formula about "brothers" is a screen for the weak-thinking. There are no "brothers" in politics, and our "sovereigns" know this better than anyone else. The whole background of political waves is never made transparent. And LDNR are not brothers at all, there are quite pragmatic interests there. About the citizens of Ukraine, in general, you can forget how kindred in some kind of tribe. As well as about the Kazakhs and Belarusians. There are simply nuances of foreign policy. For large-scale voting in international institutions and other coalition actions, large beneficiary countries have to pay with real money and resources. The main and most problematic thing is that the price corresponds to the final acquisition.
  23. +2
    6 August 2018 15: 17
    Here, just two worldviews collide, two development paths. The imperial path is a path of continuous expansion of the Russian presence in the world, the presence of the military, cultural, and economic. This way we went more or less always. And the nationalist path is the closure of loved ones to oneself. First, those who now call themselves allies will take up arms against us. And then with the slogan "Russia for Russians" we will go even further, this will eventually lead to the collapse of Russia, because we have a multinational country. And as a result, we will come to a loss of control over resources, over the right to have our own culture, our own opinion. We will be called fascists and the whole world will agree with this and put the transgender president in order to fix us. :)
    By the way, one of the reasons for the fall of the Byzantine Empire was the nationalism of the Greeks.
    1. +2
      6 August 2018 17: 07
      Any empire was built around something and someone! We have Russia and the Russian people, as a state-building! This is not nationalism; this is the foundation of the empire! In the Russian Empire there were no national republics with the right of exit, however, this did not infringe on the national identity of citizens of a different nationality, including religion and culture! Moreover, the tsar’s governor, the governor general and the tsar’s leadership in general didn’t go about their life in the field, observing the basic laws of the empire! Mosques and madrassas were built, no one interfered with the development of local culture and practice of Islam! However, the preaching of other religions by the Orthodox was strictly forbidden, and vice versa, the transition to Orthodoxy was encouraged, as the religion of the state-forming people!
      1. 0
        6 August 2018 17: 24
        I see no reason to argue. The fact of the matter is that there was no nationalism. There has always been imperial thinking. And if there were any benefits, then this is the norm for the state-forming people and, accordingly, the dominant religion.
        1. 0
          12 August 2018 00: 37
          The Russian people dominated and dictated the rules. He was reckoned with, feared and sat at attention. Not chopped with checkers into minced meat. Ethnic gangs are now dominant. This is not a country but a big top
      2. +1
        12 August 2018 00: 39
        Nationalism is not a curse word but the ideology of a healthy national state.
  24. 0
    6 August 2018 15: 30
    > It is not worth listing those whom we helped to create their own states, to survive as a people. Although the Finns, Georgians, Armenians, Lithuanians, Latvians and Estonians calmly enter this category.
    > Others don't want to donate. Look at how the rhetoric of the Armenian government is changing today. Has the people changed there? No, the people there brought another government to power. People! And the "wind of change" blew.

    the authors of the article are incompetent in questions that volunteered to cover. But initiative. A dangerous combination of incompetence and initiative. This is exactly the combination in which a certain category of worshipers will break ... the floor, in the process of prayer.

    In less than 100 years, the Russians, by the decision of their government, under the Brest Treaty, laid bare the Caucasian front, leaving the Armenian people face to face with the Turks who had recently slaughtered the Armenian people. This is to the first phrase quoted, about the people who saved a whole list of others. Only here in this list one people is either saved or thrown away to those from whom they saved. And so several times. But the people are still alive, despite his salvation.
    What a strange attitude the lifeguard has towards one of those being saved - today I save you, and tomorrow I give it to those from whom I saved yesterday.

    In 1918, the Turks were stopped by a militia + a hastily formed army somewhere near Yerevan - in the Battle of Sardarapat. But since the Turks did not achieve their goals, the government of yesterday's rescuers intensified their activity - helping the Turks with arms and money and military specialists, so that the people who had been saved yesterday, no one else could save today. And then, because even this did not lead to the result that was expected, pressure at the Kara and Moscow conferences tore off about half of its territories from Armenia and surrendered to Turkey. For services to Turkey, in Istanbul, on Tahrir Square, USSR / Russia, in the person of Voroshilov and Aralov, there is a monument to Ataturk’s comrades

    It was thanks to the efforts of Soviet Russia that the Sevres Treaty was torpedoed, the meaning of which was the international punishment of the country that organized the genocide of the Armenians.

    At the end of Soviet history, the Soviet army twice did not save the Armenians from the massacre in Sumgait and Baku - which, by modern definition, is genocide, a terrible punishment, as it were. And then, in 1991, the hero of the Afghan war, Gromov, commanding the Soviet troops arranged for the deportation of the Armenian population of Getashen and Shaumyan districts. The Armenians do not live there anymore, although they lived there for many thousands of years.

    These are our rescuers, moody. And we, as a sin, have a long memory, we remember all the saviors by heart
    1. +5
      6 August 2018 17: 22
      Oh, well done !!! The Russian government appears to have concluded the Brest Peace! No, the sweetest will not work for you. Where did you see Russians in this government ?! Oh, how the representatives of our former union republics like all the negativity that the USSR attributed to the Russian people, but as soon as the talk of a great country comes up, it turns out we created it together! You comrade Armenian, if you have already taken charge, you should start with yourself. Your communists have been very active, and in the USSR you lived quite happily in comparison with Russians and Belarusians! Now I hope you chose the one you wanted ?! Without Russian intervention ?! Well, heal! And with the Turks and Azerbaijanis you now have the opportunity to resolve all your issues. And then all your life, something and someone interferes! Forward! We do not intervene at all, being afraid of harming you, just look from the side! In Moscow, if you make a request, and in the Krasnodar Territory, even a draft in the army can help you provide Armenian citizens! If other unfriendly steps are taken in respect of Russia, the CSTO and other Eurasian structures from Armenia, as in the case of the arrest of the CSTO Secretary General out of compassion, we will provide you with the army draft without your request!
      1. -1
        7 August 2018 14: 10
        > Oh, what a fine fellow !!! The Russian government has concluded the Brest-Litovsk Peace! Yes, no, the sweetest will not come out with you.

        as in war, he’s already an adult, and as in cinema, so 18 more springs are not fulfilled (C)

        How to save the world, no one analyzes how much Russian blood is in your kings, how much German, and how many Russians are among your officials, and how to betray Armenians is not you.

        But the country is yours, and you don’t feel remorse now, for the betrayal of those who were saved, it seems?

        So it’s better for you to be silent, you’ll look more like a decent person
    2. +8
      6 August 2018 18: 14
      In both. We mean you left you poor in 18? And what happened at that time in Russia, you forgot? Have you forgotten about whites, invaders and other colored ones? Or did you fight them? Have you defended Petrograd, Ukraine, Siberia, the Urals, Arkhangelsk, Vladik? And at the sunset of Soviet history, as you write, they did not expel, kill, and kill Russians in Central Asia, in the same Caucasus, in the Baltic states?
      Your comment is a great illustration for the article. This is exactly what you do as described. As long as we are strong and you can milk money from us, you are brothers. And when we feel bad, you quickly forget everything. Or remember. As you please.
      1. 0
        6 August 2018 20: 13
        Quote: domokl
        In both. We mean you left you poor in 18? And what happened at that time in Russia, you forgot? Have you forgotten about whites, invaders and other colored ones? Or did you fight them? Have you defended Petrograd, Ukraine, Siberia, the Urals, Arkhangelsk, Vladik? And at the sunset of Soviet history, as you write, they did not expel, kill, and kill Russians in Central Asia, in the same Caucasus, in the Baltic states?
        Your comment is a great illustration for the article. This is exactly what you do as described. As long as we are strong and you can milk money from us, you are brothers. And when we feel bad, you quickly forget everything. Or remember. As you please.

        If I am not mistaken, the Armenians first left the USSR. Abandoned everything Soviet. In addition, probably because of their brilliant foresight, they stopped the nuclear power plant and remained without electricity in their ass ...
        1. +1
          6 August 2018 20: 55
          No, the first Balts were.
        2. -1
          7 August 2018 14: 16
          > The Armenians were the first, if I am not mistaken, to leave the USSR

          in 1918, Georgia and Azerbaijan were the first to leave Russia, and Armenia, due to the fact that it does not have any border with Russia, was forced to declare independence too. But precisely because we were pulling with this, we could not prepare our own army in time, and the Turks nearly slaughtered us again, putting the whole nation under arms, the Armenian state somehow defeated the Turks

          Therefore, having studied the experience of the past, we left the USSR first, preparing for this since 1989, because even then it was clear that the authorities had headed for the collapse of their country, in Armenia openly wrote about this and discussed possible scenarios of the collapse of the USSR, and how on should prepare for it.

          Here is such a connection between the betrayal of the weak in 1918 and the withdrawal of Armenia from the USSR

          > They abandoned everything Soviet.

          it’s you who got excited, from the excess of professional knowledge about Armenia. Armenia proclaimed itself the heiress of Soviet Armenia, unlike Georgia, and Azerbaijan, which proclaimed themselves the heirs of the republics of 1918-1920
          1. 0
            9 August 2018 13: 39
            Quote: xtur
            > The Armenians were the first, if I am not mistaken, to leave the USSR
            in 1918, Georgia and Azerbaijan were the first to leave Russia, and Armenia, in view of the fact that it does not have any border ...

            what are you distorting? what does 1918 have to do with it?
            in my opinion I spoke for the USSR. What are you chirozades of Irevan, all of your toldonite
      2. -1
        7 August 2018 13: 59
        > How. So we left you poor at 18? Have you forgotten what was happening in Russia at that time?

        Do you have a problem with Russian? Is the concept of context familiar to you, or is it also a victim of the exam? The authors of the article talked about saviors, and about ungrateful savages, including Armenians. AND in this context, your problems no longer matter.
    3. +2
      6 August 2018 20: 48
      Quote: xtur
      In less than 100 years, the Russians, by the decision of their government, under the Brest Treaty, laid bare the Caucasian front, leaving the Armenian people face to face with the Turks who had recently slaughtered the Armenian people.

      That is, when you cranked up your affairs - you were independent, just like now, but how did you get squeezed - immediately "Russian help"?
      Quote: xtur
      The Armenians do not live there anymore, although they lived there for many thousands of years.

      Yes, what is trifling there - many BILLION years, the Armenians are ancient - the ancient only ukroshumery ..
      1. -1
        7 August 2018 14: 06
        > That is, when you did your business, you were independent

        You see, you understand the history of Armenian-Russian relations like a pig in ballet, so you better keep quiet if you don’t know the topic you are talking about - when you don’t say stupidity there is always a chance to look like a smart person.

        Georgia and Azerbaijan left Russia, and Armenia, due to the fact that it does not have any border with Russia, was forced to declare independence too

        So it's time for you to apologize if such a thing as decency is still in fashion.

        > and why are there trifles-many BILLIONS of years, the ancient Armenians-only ukroshumer are ancient.

        no, nevertheless you are also a victim - both the Unified State Examination, and that classic version from Ilf and Petrov. There is scientific evidence, but you don’t care, everyone who is older than you must be destroyed in order to be comfortable — you know what Procrustean bed means, and who is Procrusteus?
        Don't you think that his soul is now in your body?
        1. +1
          7 August 2018 15: 18
          Quote: xtur
          You see, you understand the history of Armenian-Russian relations like a pig in ballet

          I know very well why the Turks were so offended by the Armenians.
          Quote: xtur
          So it's time for you to apologize

          You should apologize for this, but I do not demand it, you will receive politeness from you, yeah
          Quote: xtur
          pig in ballet

          what does your culture look like?
          Quote: xtur
          all who are older than you must be destroyed

          Russia has not yet destroyed anyone, not a single nation.
          Let me draw your attention to the fact that the Armenians destroyed ALL Azerbaijanis on their territory, for example, 120 thousand Armenians live on the territory of Azerbaijan. There are few such nations on the planet - which destroy on their territory the representatives of other nations - Armenians, Poles.
          Quote: xtur
          Don't you think that his soul is now in your body?

          It is necessary to be baptized - if it seems.
  25. +3
    6 August 2018 16: 05
    Totally agree with you. With the end of the war in 1945. we just do what we help all sorts of “brothers” and “sisters”. We build hydroelectric power stations, factories, houses, hospitals, etc. All of them, and we will endure on a bump. Tired of exhaustion. Putin continues this policy. Drives weapons and equipment for free, forgives billions of dollars in debt. It is going to build at our expense a nuclear station at the “new brothers” of the Turks, and to transport nuclear waste to Russia. Well, sick people will be born in Russia, but what income is in their personal pockets.
  26. +3
    6 August 2018 16: 10
    Good article. Since the late USSR, he stopped thinking of neighbors as brothers. And even more so about the Arabs ... The current “fraternization” with anyone is nothing more than a marketing move, in the hope of obtaining some benefits.
    And I support the authors in that there are much more problems within the country than in neighboring and not so many countries. And the volume of problems is growing inexorably ...
    1. 0
      7 August 2018 21: 33
      This is for you from sku-do-mi and the smallness of shi! Sorry, as it is!
      The little article is a provocation and others, inciting hatred!
      But it’s a pity that they stopped thinking ... thinking is always useful! But it’s not necessary to drag nonsense into the head ... and especially to replicate them!
      1. 0
        8 August 2018 08: 34
        Well, good. The main thing is that you have a powerful intellect and a bottomless soul. And didn’t your head swell from thoughts? And then I'm worried ...
        I wish you good health and good mood (s) hi
  27. +5
    6 August 2018 16: 40
    The correct article, but the brotherly Mongolian people are not mentioned.Mongolia appealed to the Russian side with a request to consider providing a soft loan in the amount of about 100 billion rubles, Interfax reports. At the same time, representatives of the Asian country did not specify for what purposes they needed money.News from 27.12.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX. Moreover, the previous (not Soviet) loan In February, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a law to write off Mongolia’s debt to Russia. According to the agreement, a debt of $ 174,2 million is forgiven by 97 percent. The loan was overdue by Mongolia.. In the end, it’s got a thousand rubles from each pocket. And when there are a lot of brothers, then we are already short of stadiums laughing .
    1. +3
      6 August 2018 17: 01
      News from 29.12.2016 The budget of Abkhazia for 2017 was adopted with a deficit of 33 million rubles. In the budget of Abkhazia for 2017, adopted today by the parliament of the republic, the share of own revenues is provided at the level of 54%, the remaining 46% will be assistance from Russia....The authorities of Abkhazia expected that in 2016 they would receive 3 billion 200 million rubles from Russia in the form of financial assistance and 4 billion 667 million rubles as financial assistance to the socio-economic development of Abkhazia.... http: //www.kavkaz-uzel.eu/articles/295176/
      Direct gifts of Abkhazia from each "Russian" (3200 ÷ 145) ~ 22 thousand rubles per year. And then at the summits we save laughing .
      1. +1
        7 August 2018 21: 35
        You are a provocateur like the authors!
        1. 0
          8 August 2018 08: 36
          And who are you? Internationalist or cosmopolitan?
          1. 0
            8 August 2018 13: 02
            Bolshevik. Soviet citizen. Not betrayed and not for sale!
            1. 0
              8 August 2018 13: 18
              Regarding the last phrase:
              Quote: Pyotr Ivanov
              Not betrayed and not for sale!

              Decrypt ... Do you still have a Soviet passport? You do not use payment systems "VISA" and "MaserCard"? Is there a party card at the heart? And under the bed the machine gun "Maxim"?
              And about Bolshevism ... At present, this sounds ambiguous.
              In general, again struck by the depths of your mind ... hi
              In general, I remind you, punitive psychiatry is again legal .... good
  28. Net
    0
    6 August 2018 19: 18
    "The era of universal brotherhood will come -
    the age of the ignorant, executioners and thieves "(C) Nostradamus
  29. +3
    6 August 2018 19: 37
    Roman Skomorokhov, Alexander Staver - the country should know its "heroes"
    1. +1
      7 August 2018 21: 36
      ... to the Roar of the Tribunal.
  30. +3
    6 August 2018 19: 45
    Attention, the question. But seriously, with whom and for what are we fighting today in Syria?
    Response: exclusively FOR INTERESTS a handful of gas and oil oligarchs based in Russia, who do not care deeply about our people.
    And Putin’s words that we are protecting our southern borders with this are worthless. These are just words. .. The main thing is to hang noodles on the ears of the people. And they know how to do it perfectly! After all, by their “logic” perfectly turns out that if today to postpone the retirement period, then people will live longer ... Complete idiocy!
    And in Syria, they have exactly the same logic about our "southern borders", in which our guys die for their gas and oil interests, our people with CASH “reforms” are lowered below the plinth, but “our southern borders” at the castle and the oligarchs are happy and sing praises to Putin!
    It's disgusting ... How do they not get tired of lying? Or are you already used to it? Though...
    After Putin said in 2005 that while he was president, there would be no increase in the retirement age of citizens, and after today's "pension reform" I am not surprised at anything ...
    The main thing is that our southern borders on the castle ...belay
    1. 0
      8 August 2018 04: 23
      In Syria, we are fighting for our interests, however regrettable it may be for you, the Russian gas and oil companies are filled with our budget and their interests are state interests. And you seem to be fighting against state interests, that is, you are in the train of "partners".
  31. +1
    6 August 2018 22: 13
    The summary from the article (the second half, because the first is some kind of mantra) - without Russian blood, Israel kirdyk. You can agree, but - but what the hell is Israel for us, precisely in the spirit of the article?
    PS Yes, and Yerevan to the heap.
    1. 0
      6 August 2018 23: 36
      Israel without Russians fought well with the whole Arab world, and even managed to turn into a prosperous power. Do not worry about him.
  32. 0
    6 August 2018 23: 12
    belay belay belay

    To go nuts, it’s for sure that I went to VO? An article of some kind, direct to read and read. Finally, a rational view of things.
    1. +1
      7 August 2018 21: 37
      For a novice fascist!
      1. 0
        8 August 2018 01: 31
        1. I do not see any fascism here

        2. Fascism just (coupled with communism) is based on syndicalism, albeit with a national touch.
        1. +1
          8 August 2018 13: 05
          Nonsense, at least! Do not voice stupid or deliberate anti-Soviet bullshit 80s! It’s time to figure it out yourself if you are a thinking person.

          With Bolshevik greetings!
          1. 0
            8 August 2018 13: 15
            I just understand the subject, for the education is appropriate.
  33. +2
    7 August 2018 01: 23
    Horrible, streams of thought. Everything is amazing in the author’s head.
  34. 0
    7 August 2018 05: 02
    Author, what are you talking about? First, that there is a battle for resources and that all income will go to the “God chosen”, then ends with an appeal to fight for every “piece of cake”. Some kind of female logic turned out. laughing laughing Overall, not bad. Our country has no friends except the Armed Forces and the Navy, the rest are temporary allies in their interests.
  35. -1
    7 August 2018 05: 16
    Quote: Pyotr Ivanov
    And especially when the Bolsheviks take power in the Russian Federation!

    The CPSU was already the "leading and directing" ... "Alkash" with its "slaves" did not get out of the CPSU leadership? And, "Brokeback" was apparently a "Menshevik"? lol Will you be given power again? It’s better to send you to Siberia, to immediately send to international construction sites behind barbed wire. wassat
    1. +1
      7 August 2018 21: 41
      Keep living with stamps! This is to the Russian capitalists, like honey! The main thing is that do not fight for your rights! So where are you going with such thoughts?

      Rot Front!
  36. +1
    7 August 2018 05: 27
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    written-off debt - finally allows you to start trading normally with this country

    To whom and by what? If Rosneft makes a profit, then what is my benefit? Another question: what is “bad debt”? There is always a way to get your own. Either bananas, or sugar, or other resources ... Write off for "kickbacks." A good example of the write-off of 10 billion Algeria with the provision of this country for FREE USE for twenty MIG29 for a year, which are then replaced at a discounted price with "Sushki". Storchak then went according to the "article", so Gref begged him on Putin. Apparently, he was afraid for the company to get into "researchers of tree cuts" in Siberia, for 15 years.
    1. +1
      8 August 2018 04: 27
      Most of these debts were given not to states, but to political parties, groups, etc., that is, they could not be stretched to the concept of sovereign debt, as Lavrov recently said. That is, legally dead number to return them, it remains only to negotiate
      1. +1
        8 August 2018 07: 32
        Quote: Pissarro
        Most of these debts were given not to states, but to political parties, groups, etc., that is, they could not be stretched to the concept of sovereign debt, as Lavrov recently said. That is, legally dead number to return them, it remains only to negotiate

        For example, Cuba, Mongolia, India, Vietnam, Algeria, Egypt, India .... What are you talking about? wassat wassat
        1. 0
          8 August 2018 11: 17
          About the words of Lavrov when he was asked. The man in the subject and explained why they are almost impossible to return. What are your options, a soldering iron in the anus to the ambassador of Churkestan? And we need to work with these countries now, and not be offended by them for what years
  37. 0
    7 August 2018 06: 30
    Every day from television screens you hear: "brotherly people", "help to the brotherly people"
    maybe the author turned on the recording of the Soviet TV?)))) I can’t hear it, and there’s not enough Internet TV))
    1. 0
      8 August 2018 04: 32
      The authors themselves came up with supposedly constantly announced cliches about fraternal peoples. In reality, this has never been heard from the leadership of Russia. I remember the question of friendship from a German journalist, Putin said that there is no such thing in relations between states, but only national interest. But this does not stop the authors from inventing mythical friendships, and then debunking them)
      Well, why should Israel sing to Assanna during the play?
  38. 0
    8 August 2018 12: 59
    Well, the tsarist government also did not always fight for its interests! Recall the war with Turkey 1876-77 years. What climbed to fight ??? Ah, the "brotherly" Bulgarian people were saved from the massacre! And he, this people, then continually showed us the goat’s face both in the 2 world wars and after the collapse of the USSR. And then he came: give (fraternally) to us a piece of the gas pipeline! Yes please! Pay for the construction - we’ll build it ... And then, to the Armenians 100, a million greens for weapons, a loan to someone else (like Asian Bantustanov) ... What kind of transfer ??? Better 100 million for pensioners would be spent ... Armenians will not give up, hiding behind "brotherhood" ,,,
  39. 0
    8 August 2018 13: 07
    As for internationalism, I do not agree, it was on internationalism that our country was built. By cultivating nationalism, it is easy to slide into isolation and think of yourself as an autonomously existing people in an era of deep division of labor. This is a dead end. Internationalism carries costs, but nationalism carries complete degradation and destruction, the example of Ukraine is indicative. What is the guarantee that when the last outbreaks of industry in the post-Soviet space are deindustrialized, the price of imported goods does not increase us? By the way, we already overpay for them 2 times. In the USSR, internationalism worked primarily for the division of labor within the CMEA and within the Union. That is how it should be understood economically. Yes, it was based on cheap Russian resources, but nonetheless. Our "nationalism" so far is based on rather expensive resources and the remnants of the former power of the Soviet army. When this ends, our statehood will end. That's all.
  40. 0
    8 August 2018 13: 13
    Quote: Dumb
    The CPSU was already the "leading and directing" ... "Alkash" with its "slaves" did not get out of the CPSU leadership? And, "Brokeback" was apparently a "Menshevik"?

    -------------------------
    You are looking at the tip of the iceberg. Give an example of a reborn elite who did not want the new Stalin, who made her work, and who wanted to work for her pocket. That's all. You crossed out 17 million honest communists who organized production and public work with two persons.
  41. 0
    8 August 2018 13: 14
    Quote: Pissarro
    About the words of Lavrov when he was asked. The man in the subject and explained why they are almost impossible to return.

    -------------------------
    The man put forward a version convenient for the government without reinforcing it.
    1. -2
      8 August 2018 13: 27
      Quote: Altona
      The man put forward a version convenient for the government without reinforcing it

      "Man," for a moment, heads the Russian Foreign Ministry. And therefore, obviously more "in the subject" than, for example, you.
      He doesn’t have to “reinforce” what was said specifically for you. Believe it or not is your sovereign right wink
      Again, put a shadow on the fence, Altona? laughing
  42. +2
    8 August 2018 14: 28
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    "Man," for a moment, heads the Russian Foreign Ministry. And therefore, obviously more "in the subject" than, for example, you.
    He doesn’t have to “reinforce” what was said specifically for you. Believe it or not, your sovereign right wink
    Again, put a shadow on the fence, Altona?

    ------------------------
    They said garbage again? Man, for a moment, works in the bourgeois government, which has been lying lying around for 20 years. I do not need “reinforcement” of his words, after his reservations “our owners abroad”, which Putin politely replaces with “partners”.
    1. -2
      8 August 2018 14: 47
      Quote: Golovan Jack
      Believe it or not is your sovereign right

      Quote: Altona
      They said garbage again?

      You yes request
    2. +1
      8 August 2018 15: 55
      What a mess in your head. The whole world is watching how mattresses are trying to strangle us with sanctions, butting us in Syria and Ukraine, etc. And only Altona sees in this squabble the relations of masters and servants. It's hard to live when reality tears patterns probably
  43. +1
    9 August 2018 09: 43
    Maybe that’s why all our "troubles" come from the fact that we still live with consciousness in the Union and now Capitalism. We have brains out of the blue and misunderstanding. A small example: I have a daughter, when I was in grades 1-2 they were asked essays to make it clear in the Power Point presentation that my parents had to do it. Well, I’m tired of sitting at night for 2 hours from sleep, taught her how to tear herself. A week later, she has the first thousand (10 pcs. For 100 rubles), it turns out she undertook to make such presentations to her classmates for 100 rubles. For parents, little money. So, a dispute between us and her mother came out. she forbids her to do it for money I am with both hands for! She spends her time because of someone's laziness! So I hope the children do not have such a problem.
  44. 0
    10 August 2018 16: 03
    All brothers are people, let those who want to be called my brother prove the opposite. I’ve been living for the sixth decade according to my mother’s words that there are no bad and good peoples, there are bad and good people.
  45. 0
    11 August 2018 10: 57
    In principle, the correct formulation of the question. It is especially sad to see how these "brothers" are asked for multibillion-dollar debts. I am sure that Syria will be forgiven, as they forgiven $ 4.5 billion of oil Libya, which was bathed in money, was the richest state in Africa, and generously helped other African countries. A backfill question: which country honestly paid the USSR and Russia all the debts? There is one such country, only one ...
    Regarding the fight against terrorism: the operation in Syria is important and necessary, but everyone knows that it was fueled and sponsored by Saudi Arabia there (read about the "Balkan Express" on colonelcassad at least). So why hug at the stadium and befriend these criminal Saud princes (allow them to invest and proselytize in Chechnya), if they are the axis of evil, sponsors of terrorism, if Syrians and our soldiers die because of them? On the contrary, the whole world must be set up against them. There is a reason - all countries have claims to them.
    About terrorism in our penates: maybe it's time to admit that the main stream of terrorists is rushing towards us from the Central Asian "brothers" - guest workers? It may be time to close the borders, introduce a strict visa regime, with property (until $ 5000 in cash was not given a visa, they checked again at the border) and educational (you did not finish the institute, you don’t speak Russian - you will not see a visa) census, to force employers to pay them a salary in white and no less than the citizens of the Russian Federation (so that there is no interest in hiring guest workers)? Maybe for a start, admit the obvious: that the "GTA gang" are Islamist terrorists, and not ordinary bandits? Maybe it's time to introduce the death penalty for terrorism for non-citizens of the Russian Federation? After all, we are already at odds with the EU and the US, why should we play their games with humanism and political correctness?
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