Pentagon: New strategic weapons do not give Moscow special advantages

The latest Russian developments, such as the Poseidon multi-purpose system, do not change the principles of nuclear deterrence, and therefore do not give Moscow any particular advantages, reports TASS statement by the head of the US Strategic Command, General John Heithen.

The journalists asked the general to comment on the creation of the Poseidon unmanned underwater vehicle in the Russian Federation, but the commander combined all the latest Russian strategic developments, including the Sarmat and Avangard complexes with the planning hypersonic warhead, the Poseidon underwater vehicle and others.

When it comes to deterrence, it implies the ability of one side to effectively impose the price on the opposing side or deprive it of any advantage, Heiten said.

In his opinion, the most interesting point is that Russia is able to achieve this with its structure of strategic forces, as well as America is able to act similarly with respect to Moscow with its structure. And the newest means mentioned in this equation do not change, the general added.

In this regard, he said, one should not ask the Russians why they are moving along this path. At the same time, Heiten said that he would not want to be in the place of the Russian, “who must use these frightening means.” “I’m just glad that I’m not the Russian citizen,” he repeated.

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[Thrall]

I'm just glad that I am not that Russian

And we are so glad

[bouncyhunter]

new strategic weapons do not give Moscow special advantages

Yeah, that’s why mattresses and the West are so diligently scolding them.

[rocket757]

Hi
The general seems pleased that he can use their weapons of mass destruction!
In one, he is right, the main assessment is what - We can destroy / inflict global damage, we can’t. We can repel a global attack, we can’t.
The ratio is not really broken, everything was as it was. Destroy twice, not just one, is that all that important?

[bouncyhunter]

Salute, Victor!

Quote: rocket757

The ratio is not really broken, everything was as it was.

I do not agree with you. Novelties have definitely added headaches to mattress strategists. When they don’t know how to respond to new armaments, they are engaged in the fact that they reassure themselves and their partners with the complete inconsistency of the new arrivals. And the fact that the same “Vanguard” will bypass their missile defense is preferred not to be seen.

[rocket757]

Salute and fanfare to our designers. This is correct.
We don’t know what, but, at first glance, the Yankees are not really building a global missile defense - air defense, to protect themselves from everyone and everything.
The desire to strengthen weapons for the first global strike is noticeable! To attack not too protected countries. They can "run over" with all their offensive power.
Only sho is that, sho will be able to protect them from the retaliatory strike of a strong opponent, they do, but very limitedly.
Those. Fly into and immediately defeat! This is heard from them all the time, but something definite about the fact that they can reflect everything and everything that flies, swims, crawls back to them ??? Assurances, actions are very vague.
I do not propose to do only remedies. This is a dead end road, dangerous, you need to have everything, Schaub to beat off Wishlist from all sorts of du - ri - kov!

[Yura]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Novelties have definitely added headaches to mattress strategists. When they don’t know how to respond to new weapons

I agree with you, their strategy of a lightning fast global disarming strike, ensured by the installation of air defense systems in Europe and around the world, becomes useless in its main task. They will have to think and change a lot. It’s necessary that they just came close to completing measures to level the Russian retaliatory strike and it didn’t work on you. They wanted Russia to dictate the terms of blackmailing with a preemptive strike, but it didn’t work out. When it comes to the end, what happens at all, they will have something to do at home, and not sow discord and death around the world.

[bouncyhunter]

As Bismarck used to say:
Never fight with the Russians. They will respond to each of your military tricks with unpredictable stupidity.
It does not quite correspond to the moment, but the essence remains.

[siberalt]

And what advantages can a colony have over a metropolis? Unless among other similar colonies. Well, the same DPRK has such advantages. There, Un can send trump in three letters in Russian to the whole world, but we do not. And the DPRK is far from alone.

[bulvas]

Quote: siberalt

can send trump in three letters in Russian to the whole world, but we do not.

you, it seems you have long recorded yourself in impotent?

In most of your messages you only write: we can’t, the system is not the same, you aren’t able to ...

It is interesting to know whether you call this yourself in the plural, or else who cannot be with you for the company?

[SOF]

Quote: siberalt

And what advantages can a colony have over a metropolis?

.... you seem to me start to confuse the pillars and frankly bury in the "convictions" of everyone and everything in all mortal sins .......
....... yyyshty ... Una, for example, in all the gardens they started making a fuss ........ the cannibal from the tumba-yumba tribe can also yell all over the world, which he sends Trump to all four sides. ..... and not only that - he won’t even get anything for it ...... and choooo? ....
..... I would really like to look at least with one eye on you, the North Korean, ranting at the computer ......... that everyone around is traitors .........

[Sarmat Sanych]

Comrades, and stripes have a specific bench press. In fact, these "exceptional" Chushkars understand that they have nothing to oppose to us, except for the 45-year-old junk that flies FIG knows where due to anomalies))). A good mine with a bad game does not work, a stone flower does not come out.

[Dormidont]

Yes her. No special benefits. Unless it’s the only opportunity to destroy the aggressors, our Western and Middle Eastern partners, with certainty

[dorz]

According to Putin, ICBMs from American submarines in the Barents Sea will reach Russia in 12 minutes. Also off the Russian coast is 35 NATO destroyers in constant readiness. There is a threat and vulnerability in this.

[Russia]

Similarly, the answer to the states is a threat and vulnerability, hence their itch.

[bulvas]

Quote: dorz

According to Putin, ICBMs from American submarines in the Barents Sea will reach Russia in 12 minutes. Also off the Russian coast is 35 NATO destroyers in constant readiness. There is a threat and vulnerability in this.

And what about them?

Let out from the destroyer, and the answer will fly to Washington

What's the difference?

For many years they planned that they would threaten us and dictate their conditions, but we would have nothing to answer, there would be doubts whether ours would reach them or not.

And now they have big doubts, many years of efforts and huge budgets have been spent uselessly, and not only are we sending them, but other countries are starting to send, thanks to us.


As they say, what they fought for ...

[Alexey-74]

And what remains to say to the Pentagon? Recognize defeat in the development of the latest weapons? A completely predictable reaction ....

[Sarmat Sanych]

Perhaps I agree, the mattresses look extremely flawed

[syndicalist]

To paraphrase: "Parity is maintained. Nuclear war is impossible." It would be strange if reasonable people were completely absent from the generals.

[rotmistr60]

combined all the latest Russian strategic developments, including the Sarmat, Avangard complexes with a planning hypersonic warhead, the Poseidon submarine and others .... do not change the principles of nuclear deterrence

Maybe they do not change, but they create big problems for the USA in interception. When it is not clear how to respond to the new Russian weapons, you have to deal with complacency and hope that the Russians, unlike the Americans, will not be the first to start.

[HAM]

All these conversations: “from everything is lost!” To “we are not afraid of you!” - says that the Americans hit the target, at the Americans Hysteria!

[bk316]

says that the GDP hit the target, the Americans hysteria!

Well, don’t need to do so, then blame the GDP for shitting in the entrances, then ascribe the creation of advanced weapons ....

[HAM]

Vladimir, you didn’t understand the idea a bit: it’s about the fact that the Americans have recently criticized our technology, now they are raising it to the skies ... (according to NI experts), then “there is nothing to answer”, then “we will throw caps”, and what’s it -not a hysteria ...

[bk316]

Well, of course this is so, only I look at them and think that this is not so much from what WE have become cool, but from the fact that America really went into the spree.

[Sadko88]

Containment principles do not change, but much more humane to the planet. Rather its surface

[Masya masya]

do not change the principles of nuclear deterrence, and therefore do not give Moscow special advantages

admitted that there are advantages, not "special", it is to sweeten the pill said ...

[rruvim]

As I saw these cartoons from the Brigadier in the "message to the Federal Assembly" so simply jumped for joy !!! He jumped, jumped until the underground started digging further ...

[SPIKER]

"... they do not give Moscow any particular advantages." ??? !!! Yes, it can be seen ... scampering around the world, crap one's pants, shouting: "Russia is a threat" !!! Overseas clowns !!!

[Prisoner]

And we do not need special advantages. We have enough of everything that is, to spoil your appetites. The main thing is to keep our compradors in check.

[garri-lin]

Parity is not broken. But a technological step has been taken forward. A reserve has been created which will allow to level the development of American forces. Both strategic nuclear forces and missile defense. Done exactly what you need and it pleases.

[Anchonsha]

HA-HA, exceptional bastards, do not lie even to your population that nothing has changed. It has changed exactly the opposite, now this general does not shout that we are throwing atomic bombs, does not threaten a global strike on Russia with precision weapons because he knows that many ships are American and some European immediately go to the bottom

[igorbrsv]

“I would not want to be in the place of the Russian“ who must use these frightening means. ”“ I'm just glad that I am not that Russian, ”he repeated
Why is he like that? Nervous or what? Better to be glad that I am not that Russian. I’m even glad myself, otherwise I would have nervously poked a start button in the start button.

[edasko]

How many years? Have a family? Did he serve in the army?

[Gagarin77]

Of course they don’t give it during an attack, but during defense they change the situation upside down. Only you can’t think about defense, they have the brains of eagles.

[Gagarin77]

A Russian on whose country they decided to attack you will use this weapon with a smile on his face. Even if the whole world is already in dust.

[Nyrobsky]

New strategic weapons may not give advantages, but they give a good understanding of the fact that the answer by means of muzzles will arrive unequivocally and without delay.

[tagil]

At the same time, Hayten said that he would not want to be in the place of the Russian “who must use these frightening means.” "I'm just glad that I am not that Russian"

Oh wow, that is, does he hint that someone will go crazy after applying nuclear weapons to the best representatives of humanity? I strongly doubt it. In general, I have the feeling that God in the United States collects all the criminals, stupid, oblique in general everyone, as the exceptional monkey said, so that then all .... once there is nobody, one strait named after Stalin.

[igorbrsv]

Stalin's Strait - suitable

[voyaka uh]

I think these new semi-mythical Poseidons and other Russian marine prodigies of recent years will help the States to strengthen their coastal defense from conventional submarines. They renew the dense cover of the "northern throat" of the Atlantic, as was the case during the Cold War.
And began the intensive production of marine drones for coastal defense. They will not meet Poseidon, of course, but they will detect submarines of China and Russia.

[tagil]

To launch a rocket, it is not necessary to approach the coast, to create a tsunami you need to dive deeper and not explode in shallow water. And Poseidon can be delivered under the ship’s bottom to their port.

[voyaka uh]

That's to prevent all the possibilities of a sea attack that you have listed, and a comprehensive anti-submarine defense is being developed. And she, of course, will help from conventional means. And from other countries.

[tagil]

It was predictable, but they will find a way around the defense, in general this is an eternal movement. Moreover, there is no exact TTX of Poseidon, so it will be difficult to develop protection. And perhaps Poseidon is a bluff, like the American SDI, let them now spend billions in money on these cartoons. The truth will be known very soon.

[Sarmat Sanych]

Warrior, I remind you: you are between two stages - "Denial" and "Depression", and permanently jumps from one to the other. Don’t worry, the “Acceptance” stage will come soon, you have a lot of events ahead of you.

[igorbrsv]

So you will help America strengthen their borders

[voyaka uh]

Orders will also be transferred to us - all kinds of devices.

[Vlad Petrov]

It’s time for the exceptional representatives of mankind to come up with the idea that Russia is not going to attack anyone, not the enemy. But the newcomers to the nuclear club, who have been so diligently omitted, exploited for centuries, may very well not noticeably deliver nuclear charge to the territory of their offenders, if they have not already done so. This is called terrorism. The UN accepts further complaints if it survives.

[voyaka uh]

We are aware of what you wrote. Thank. And we closely monitor all exploited and lowered. To do this, you have to contain intelligence, satellites,
ICBMs and ballistic missiles, two hundred of the most modern aircraft, etc.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: voyaka uh

Orders will also be transferred to us - all kinds of devices.

Yes, dosimeters, filter systems, etc. Well, maybe something else about polymers: plastic bags, for example

[Beby]

Apparently, Hayten could not say the following:

At the same time, Hayten said that he would not want to be in the place of the Russian “who must use these frightening means.” “I'm just glad that I am not that Russian,” he repeated.

because in their languages ​​the words "Russian"- NOthey have the word "Russian". Be careful with translations!
And this is not a question of THEIR language, it is a question of our Russian language, and newly-introduced freak words, as well as distortions and changes in the meaning of existing words.

[Zomanus]

Yes, of course they do not give who would argue.
Only you, Americans, Europeans, Anglo-Saxons, most importantly do not meddle with us,
that would not have to check in the field how it works.

[Cinema]

of course he’s right .. I’m still surprised why he didn’t laugh at Putin’s cartoon .. if it’s really for chickens to laugh

[parathyron]

Here are the hens with their chicken brains and laugh, and the professional military, unlike some couches, is not laughing

[Cinema]

Are you sure? Well, well ... there are bloopers on the blooper in this cartoon ... then don’t even laugh, but you have to cry

[Sarmat Sanych]

Well, you’re versed in cartoon films, and the corresponding nickname. I remind you again of your four stages: Anger - Bidding - Depression - Acceptance. Rejoice, happy life is just beginning)).

[voyaka uh]

Are you like a gas specialist? And a philologist? And also a therapist, as it turns out.
In the stage of rampant optimism.

[Dargavs]

I remember in the late 90s such phrases were flaunting among our leaders, it was not at ease, I took anger, and now you can enjoy a little. The enemy is in fear and confusion, we are calmer.

[Bastion Eagle]

Based on the fact that the United States does not attack Russia in any way, then his reasoning would make sense. Given that the United States does not exclude conflict, the pretext can be anything, a new weapon robs America of a number of attacking advantages and levels their missile defense ...

[Evgenijus]

Pentagon:

new strategic weapons do not give Moscow special advantages

Russia is not an aggressor, it does not need advantages. But equality in defense and the ability to punish with the guarantee of insolent, like the Pentagon, does not interfere at all.
All the logic of the statements of figures from the Pentagon comes from their primary installation - an attack on other countries. And Russia is estimated for this article. About the defense they have few words and actions. The last years and decades prove it.

[oh how]

How many Poseidons and Vanguards do we have now? and how much will it be? about twenty go. American is right. in this situation we are catching up because we don’t have a system about near the striped borders, we’re building a mosquito fleet, soon there will be nothing to cover the strategists .. in aviation we are one generation behind, and numerically we are three times behind in creating all sorts of Japan. creating poseydons and this desire not to lose parity with side.

[Sadko88]

One tsunami is enough for those who are not particularly restrained and curious

[oh how]

Quote: Sadko88

One tsunami is enough for those who are not particularly restrained and curious

well firstly is not enough. secondly, how to organize it without a fleet (who will cover the carriers)? or did I oversleep the abolition of the US intelligence heap? thirdly, it makes no sense to start first. Like us. parity, if not cool exists.
that's interesting, during the Second World War the Germans and ours had a bunch of chemical weapons, but they didn’t use them even in the most critical moments. the parallel begs

[Sadko88]

I absolutely agree with the parallel

[Private SA]

do not give Moscow special advantages,
The main thing is to repeat this mantra every day .... three times a day)))

[bratchanin3]

Well, yes, of course, when you can’t say anything, then yes is good.

[Zaurbek]

They are right ... But it is from non-nuclear tactical Caliber and Dagger main effect. The caliber makes it possible to inflict strategic damage to an entire country. A dagger is a non-nuclear threat to ships and important objects at the turn of the launch of the Kyrgyz Republic Tomogavk in our direction.

[another RUSICH]

Well do not give so do not give ... what to yell? May you quietly rejoice. And if they yell so nervously, then maybe this is a self-hypnosis session?)

[Ros 56]

But we don’t need advantages, just striped ones and that’s all. What does it have to do with joy, the usual tedious work, to ensure us safety.

[demo]

At the same time, Hayten said that he would not want to be in the place of the Russian “who must use these frightening means.” “I'm just glad that I am not that Russian,” he repeated.
But for us Russians what to do?
Rejoice or be sad?
The general should be asked a question.

[123456789]

Pentagon: New strategic weapons do not give Moscow special advantages

Western media: the US will abandon aircraft carriers because of Russian missiles ...
Source: https://politexpert.net/113383-zapadnye-smi-ssha-
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ce = warfiles.ru

Sarmat devalued the US missile defense system until 2058 ...
tvzvezda.ru ›News› OPK ›Zvezda Media Group› Developer
The latest Sarmat complex makes modern US missile defense systems ineffective for the next 40 years, said Vladimir Degtyar, Academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences, General Designer of GRC Makeeva JSC. “The Sarmat missile system will remain effective in terms of deploying a missile defense system in the next 40 years,” he told the Constructor corporate publication.

And yes, it doesn’t give any special advantages ...

[Kokarev Mikhail]

Heiten is right. No one has enough reliable means of defense against a nuclear attack. For local conflicts, this is all cool. But for the confrontation between the US and the Russian Federation, it’s just noise, because if someone “coughs”, then the other also “coughs”. And even if the missile defense system will be super successful, at least for someone, 10% of the charges will still reach, and this is kaput!

[Dimmedroll]

Well, why do not change anything, the budget is already 709 billion. And they say it does not change. And then there will be enough forces, such a country should be pulled, provided that their debts are like that of foolish wrappers.

[Old26]

Quote: bouncyhunter

new strategic weapons do not give Moscow special advantages

Yeah, that’s why mattresses and the West are so diligently scolding them.

Well, in principle, the general is right in saying that these systems do not give any strategic advantages. Both parties are able to fulfill their tasks with the tools that they have. The basis - ICBMs and SLBMs, as an addition - strategic aviation aircraft.

Quote: bouncyhunter

And the fact that the same "Vanguard" will bypass their missile defense is preferred not to be seen.

Can you explain how? The specifics, not the words that it is impossible to intercept ...

Quote: voyaka uh

I think these new semi-mythical Poseidons and other Russian marine prodigies of recent years will help the States to strengthen their coastal defense from conventional submarines. They renew the dense cover of the "northern throat" of the Atlantic, as was the case during the Cold War.
And began the intensive production of marine drones for coastal defense. They will not meet Poseidon, of course, but they will detect submarines of China and Russia.

The reaction has always been like that. We reacted exactly the same way at the time to the appearance of divided warheads and long-range cruise missiles of the Tomahawk type among the Americans. Only the statements were opposite. They are now saying: RUSSIA THREATENS THE WORLDand then they said AMERICAN IMPERIALISM THREATENS THE WORLD. Even released several editions of the book WHERE THE THREAT TO THE WORLD COMES. Therefore, to the mutual statements of this type, I am philosophical. Everyone fulfills his salary

And here is the reaction to POSEIDON it may become an increase in allocations for PLO and its strengthening - this is quite real. They are hypersonic just like we are doing. In any case, all of our sophisticated devices for another 5-7 years will be tested and finalized. In silence. No screaming in the media. But this is a long-term business ...

Quote: garri-lin

Parity is not broken. But a technological step has been taken forward. A reserve has been created which will allow to level the development of American forces. Both strategic nuclear forces and missile defense. Done exactly what you need and it pleases.

Not yet. ABM remain in the same condition as now. And just like modern means, it breaks through a mass launch.
Similarly, our new A-2235 system and the S-500 battlefield will not be able to level the massive strike of American strategic nuclear forces. In many ways, these are not yet real systems, but rather a prospect with an unclear end result, which in reality does not provide a strategic advantage to the Russian strategic nuclear forces

Quote: Tagil

To launch a rocket, it is not necessary to approach the coast, to create a tsunami you need to dive deeper and not explode in shallow water. And Poseidon can be delivered under the ship’s bottom to their port.

It turns out how simple it is ... Have you heard anything about the joint Soviet-American experiments of the 80s on the remote sensing of nuclear weapons?

Quote: Hold Eagle

Based on the fact that the United States does not attack Russia in any way, then his reasoning would make sense. Given that the United States does not exclude conflict, the pretext can be anything, a new weapon robs America of a number of attacking advantages and levels their missile defense ...

This weapon does not deprive America of any attacking advantages.
Two "news" - PETrel and POSEIDONIf one abandons many details that are extremely inconvenient for discussion (such as navigation, etc.), they cannot deprive America of any advantages. Rather, it is a variant of the "Dead Hand", when the result will be after the end of the nuclear conflict

Quote: about how

How many Poseidons and Vanguards do we have now? and how much will it be? about twenty go. American is right. in this situation we are catching up because we don’t have a system about near the striped borders, we’re building a mosquito fleet, soon there will be nothing to cover the strategists .. in aviation we are one generation behind, and numerically we are three times behind in creating all sorts of Japan. creating poseydons and this desire not to lose parity with side.

How many Vanguards? Not a single one yet. By the end of next year, we may have a pair of carriers with a pair Vanguards. In general, they are unlikely to be very many. A dozen of 3-4 carriers, with half a hundred of the blocks themselves Vanguard

POSEIDON? There are no carrier boats yet. It seems to be built alone. how many POSEIDONOV can she carry? One or two? To drive POSEIDON to a distance of 7000 km from our bases to the American coast is to play Russian roulette.

Quote: Sadko88

One tsunami is enough for those who are not particularly restrained and curious

Tsunami? Damn, already tired of posting numbers. WILL NOT BE ANY TSUNAMI. There will be a tidal wave, which, unlike a tsunami with a distance, will lose altitude ....

Quote: Zaurbek

They are right ... But it is from non-nuclear tactical Caliber and Dagger main effect. The caliber makes it possible to inflict strategic damage to an entire country. A dagger is a non-nuclear threat to ships and important objects at the turn of the launch of the Kyrgyz Republic Tomogavk in our direction.

Caliber is an analogue of theirs "Tomahawk." That's just the “Tomahawks” they have several thousand, and half a hundred “Caliber” is bought from us in the quarter. What can the Dagger result in now, while he never hit the sea target, you can’t say anything, like say at supersonic speed it will fly up to the target. So generally for now DAGGER poses no threat without completing the entire test cycle

[Bi-mac]

Quote: rruvim

As I saw these cartoons from the Brigadier in the "message to the Federal Assembly" so simply jumped for joy !!! He jumped, jumped until the underground started digging further ...

True, there is no comparison with feature films, where American supermen, two or three save the world from terrorists! There, even repeated advertisements are not able to tear your ass from the chair. Not like jumping ...

[ont65]

Of course, the weapons stored in the arsenals do not give any advantages, but exactly until the time arrives. Apparently, Hayten is quite sure that this situation cannot be.