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Who is guilty? Media puts forward versions of the death of journalists in the CAR

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Yesterday news about the death in the Central African Republic of three Russian journalists literally shook up domestic and foreign media, which with the speed of a rapid-fire rifle began to put forward different versions of what happened, sometimes having a right to exist, and sometimes really crazy, just to get into the cohort of "write about it."


Who is guilty? Media puts forward versions of the death of journalists in the CAR


The publication "Reedus" published a statement by Oleg Teterin, the deputy editor of Asia and Africa Today magazine, who said that Russian journalists were removed by a tip from those who feared publicity about the participation of foreign mercenaries in internal armed conflicts in these countries. At the same time, according to Teterin, customers could be located in any country, including Russia.

At the same time, the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova, said that there was no sensation in the presence of Russian instructors in the CAR and the Russian Foreign Ministry officially announced the presence of Russian military and civilian instructors in the CARs, so the version of the shooting of the film about the alleged Russian PMC does not hold water.

The version that Russian journalists could have been killed by militants of the Muslim insurgent movement "Séléka" was put forward by the TASS agency, relying on a statement in the country's authorities. The same information was provided by Palmarescentrafrique.com, a Central African edition, which claims that rebels from the Séléka group kidnapped and interrogated Russian journalists Orhan Jemal, Alexander Rastorguev and Cyril Radchenko, and then killed them.

Recall that Russian journalists arrived in the CAR 27 July and were not registered at the Russian embassy in this country. On July 30, they took a jeep with a local driver to the north, ostensibly to shoot a series of reports in the field. On July 30 around 18: 00 local time, they were stopped at a national security service checkpoint and warned about the danger of moving in the dark and offered to stop. However, the journalists decided to get to their destination.

The most likely option that the attack on the Russians was committed with the aim of robbery. Journalists with them had about 8,5 thousand dollars (by the standards of a poor country, a fortune) and two expensive video cameras. With this money you can live in the CAR for a whole year.
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  1. Dog
    Dog 1 August 2018 20: 11
    +14
    that the attack on the Russians was carried out with the aim of robbery against the background of the ongoing civil war in the Central African Republic that year.

    Well, the versions in the media will be standard .. This is definitely!

    Then do not go to the grandmother, if you understand who these zhurnalyugi were .. bully
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 1 August 2018 20: 17
      +4
      Well, why do this in the Central African Republic, you can do it without noise, in terms of how the so-called opposition (there are Bulk and others ...)
      1. Borisovich
        Borisovich 1 August 2018 20: 26
        +29
        Quote: Shahno
        it is possible without noise, in terms of how the so-called opposition (there Navalny

        How? Bulk too? When? Where? Where to carry cloves ?????
        1. Shahno
          Shahno 1 August 2018 20: 28
          +4
          Still alive, but in a political sense, rather not ...
          1. Borisovich
            Borisovich 1 August 2018 20: 35
            +18
            Quote: Shahno
            Still alive

            Well, I’ve taken a stone straight from my soul ... I thought I had missed it. something.
            And in the political sense, I do not care deeply about bulk and others like him.
            It is empty that the other "doctors" understand and decide whether he is dead or alive. (In the political sense)
          2. taiga2018
            taiga2018 1 August 2018 20: 59
            +6
            Quote: Shahno
            but in a political sense, probably not

            but don’t rush to “bury” it, it doesn’t sink and can even come up ...
          3. Cottodraton
            Cottodraton 2 August 2018 02: 39
            +2
            He was never alive in a political sense. This was originally a cadavre, although undergoing internships "with friends")
          4. igorka357
            igorka357 2 August 2018 06: 13
            +1
            Yes, he was never alive in the political world ... because he sent three hundred students for five-man high school to MARCH MILLIONS ... laughing Well, nothing at all ..!
        2. Observer2014
          Observer2014 1 August 2018 20: 35
          +33
          Borisovich (Borisovich)
          How? Bulk too? When? Where? Where to carry cloves ?????
          For the first time in my life I’m printing this. I’m ready to rip off a bunch of “applause” wassat The question is possible. And what did this Navalny do to you personally? Here, to bring flowers right away. I personally see that guy with a gun in a friend’s photo Dog he wants to get to work after 60 years old. And I have a specialty in construction. I’m not a boy now either. And the young ones are not strong enough to compete with them. And I understand and realize that we have been given the genocide. And I’m saying this without fear. Because it’s true . And I work with my own hands. And on this occasion, take my word for yourself very modestly on the site mind. hi
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 1 August 2018 20: 54
            +19
            Quote: Observer2014
            very modest yourself on the site mind

            Md what
            1. Observer2014
              Observer2014 1 August 2018 20: 56
              +6
              Golovan Jack (Novel)
              Md what
              And here is my good old arc. drinks What lies and lies in my words? hi
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 1 August 2018 21: 00
                +19
                Quote: Observer2014
                What lies and lies in my words?

                Quote: Observer2014
                And I have a construction specialty ... And I do it myself

                I am not saying anything, but have you written that you are already retired? At forty years old?
                If you beguiled that - my apologies.
                And yes, yours
                Quote: Observer2014
                very modest yourself on the site mind

                gave me five minutes of a good, healthy laugh.
                Go on, ahem ... joke hi
                1. Observer2014
                  Observer2014 1 August 2018 21: 17
                  -1
                  Golovan Jack (Novel)
                  I am not saying anything, but have you written that you are already retired? At forty years old?
                  If you beguiled that - my apologies.
                  I accept. All the more. Literally all comments documented by the site hi
          2. taiga2018
            taiga2018 1 August 2018 21: 15
            +20
            Quote: Observer2014
            And I understand perfectly and am aware that we have been prepared for genocide.

            there was a fashion for "daughters of officers", now "pensioners ..." are gaining popularity
            1. Observer2014
              Observer2014 1 August 2018 21: 20
              +6
              taiga2018 (Makar)
              there was a fashion for "daughters of officers", now "pensioners ..." are gaining popularity
              Was everything smart? Well done. Evidence in the studio about my comments. And this particular question. Everything in history. I’m waiting. Otherwise, you yourself understand. Since we are all here in the "officer rank, though am : wassat :
              1. taiga2018
                taiga2018 1 August 2018 21: 29
                +23
                Quote: Observer2014
                Evidence in the studio about my comments.

                I won’t show you anything, I don’t have time to pickle here, unlike you, it’s very early for me to get up and go tomorrow to hay, your bulk and all this liberal bastard will not do my job for me, I have no time to whine, unlike you ...
                1. Observer2014
                  Observer2014 1 August 2018 21: 35
                  +3
                  taiga2018 (Makar)
                  I won’t show you anything, I don’t have time to pickle here, unlike you, it’s very early for me to get up and go tomorrow to hay, your bulk and all this liberal bastard will not do my job for me, I have no time to whine, unlike you
                  laughing good Well now stand still and study my comments in the story wassat I will sleep. And it’s calm. And until the morning. For me to get up at half-past six and at the beginning of the seventh. To go to work. And this fact will also prove. The history of exits and printing of my comments! drinks That's what I love IN! Everything is documented and it is not possible to lie or blame the opponent for lies. soldier
                  1. Black sniper
                    Black sniper 1 August 2018 23: 01
                    +5
                    Come on, don’t. am
                  2. igorka357
                    igorka357 2 August 2018 06: 21
                    +2
                    Serezhenka, yes Makar paid you full-time ... a working pensioner, you are personally one of those who pulled this reform up! Damn you got used to it, put on your pants, and young people who want to work can't get a job .. there are sixty-year-old specials of us ...
            2. Dr. Sorge
              Dr. Sorge 2 August 2018 12: 01
              +2
              Daughters of pensioners and granddaughters! Cool invented. Freshly! Cookies work! State Department fantasies to the fullest!
          3. Dog
            Dog 1 August 2018 21: 46
            +5
            Quote: Observer2014
            . And I perfectly understand and am aware that they have prepared the genocide. Moreover, I say this without fear. Because it’s true. And I do it myself. And on this occasion, take my word for myself very modestly on the site.

            Calm Sergey .. hi The bottom line is that the West and their hangers-on, figured out how to shake us up in Russia (which fakes did not spread and inflation did not increase with the dollar, but we are all silent ..)))
            The main goal. It is again to raise the troubles in Russia and the pension reform seems to be working .. The whole question is, who will enter Bolotnaya? There is no one. one op in the media and interest .. And Putin, of course, framed the province and clearly with this reform .. I don’t want again the troubles of the 90s Sergey, it’s just horror, that it was somehow necessary.
            1. Observer2014
              Observer2014 1 August 2018 21: 53
              +2
              Dog hi .
              I do not want again the turmoil of the 90s Sergey is just a horror, that was, somehow differently needed.
              So who wants it !!! Mikhalych, curse what the light is on. And they say “he is blind, he doesn’t see” !!!. One-on-one in the spring of 2014 in the Donbass. But this is another question. And the topic for discussion / We see everything. And we understand perfectly. But let it be better if I say this. What will happen the irreparable. And all goes to this.
              1. igorka357
                igorka357 2 August 2018 06: 26
                +2
                Oh, how are you waiting for your five-columned marches of millions in the swamp .. There will not be such a thing, die peacefully! Che there .. the marches were against reform? Funny damn it! A Russian peasant always knew how to live under the tsar, in any other way ... you're history then take it, and then the epaulettes are huge .. and it’s confusing in my head like a sprat! When Russia lived without a master ..then it was confusion ... How do I want to see the Russian Guard and sobr when they will disperse the next MARCHEMMILLION ... it would be nice if you were in the front row ... Remember, here you are not the Ukrainian Golden Eagle!
          4. Borisovich
            Borisovich 1 August 2018 21: 55
            +11
            Quote: Observer2014
            The question is possible. And what did this Navalny do to you personally?

            Question is possible. But not to me, but to the forum member who buried him
            Quote: Shahno
            it is possible without noise, in terms of how the so-called opposition (there Bulk and others ...)

            That is, when they write frank nonsense, you do not react to this. And when I answered this nonsense in an ironic form, you were indignant to the core.
            Don't you find it so strange? Not logical. The reaction to the posts is somehow selective. I just can’t understand why. .
            Quote: Observer2014
            And on this occasion, believe in the word very modestly yourself on the site mind.

            Yeah! You won’t praise yourself ........
          5. artifact
            artifact 1 August 2018 21: 57
            +9
            Quote: Observer2014
            Borisovich (Borisovich)
            How? Bulk too? When? Where? Where to carry cloves ?????
            For the first time in my life I’m printing this. I’m ready to rip off a bunch of “applause” wassat The question is possible. And what did this Navalny do to you personally? Here, to bring flowers right away. I personally see that guy with a gun in a friend’s photo Dog he wants to get to work after 60 years old. And I have a specialty in construction. I’m not a boy now either. And the young ones are not strong enough to compete with them. And I understand and realize that we have been given the genocide. And I’m saying this without fear. Because it’s true . And I work with my own hands. And on this occasion, take my word for yourself very modestly on the site mind. hi

            wait a minute !. How did you tie the bulk and the uncle who raises the retirement age? type against bulk !? so no, he only proposed to raise the retirement age much earlier !!!
            and the bulk simply scum! definitely! I will not disassemble and convince. purely my personal opinion
          6. igorka357
            igorka357 2 August 2018 06: 16
            0
            So the old people who retired had to give way to the young ... and they were cunning, they work up to 70 years old, they get a pension .. and the youth can’t get a job! It’s really modest .. the donuts are not simple .. wink
          7. Mexovoy
            Mexovoy 3 August 2018 17: 38
            0
            A man with a gun defends the interests of local monopolies. Navalny stands for the interests of external monopolies. Personally, the interests of my own monopolies are closer to me.
            Do you know that we live in the highest stage of capitalism - imperialism? Which is characterized by the dominance of the largest monopolies. So here is a very simple layout.
        3. Vadim237
          Vadim237 1 August 2018 23: 35
          0
          NP Petrovka 12 - often appears there.
      2. APASUS
        APASUS 1 August 2018 20: 35
        +3
        Quote: Shahno
        Well, why do this in the Central African Republic, you can do it without noise, in terms of how the so-called opposition (there are Bulk and others ...)

        Do not find some similarities with what happened in Kiev on the Maidan or Salisbury England - you need victims! And the further is not important anymore, the texts are written, the time on the channels is ordered, the circulation of information has begun, about the evil mercenaries from PMCs, and now everything is close. PMCs are the authorities - Putin, I think we will hear it all soon ......... ..
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 1 August 2018 21: 41
          0
          Quote: APASUS
          Quote: Shahno
          Well, why do this in the Central African Republic, you can do it without noise, in terms of how the so-called opposition (there are Bulk and others ...)

          Do not find some similarities with what happened in Kiev on the Maidan or Salisbury England - you need victims! And the further is not important anymore, the texts are written, the time on the channels is ordered, the circulation of information has begun, about the evil mercenaries from PMCs, and now everything is close. PMCs are the authorities - Putin, I think we will hear it all soon ......... ..


          Still more tragic than it sounds. The robbery version does not roll:
          Russian journalists who died in the Central African Republic the day before the murder were detained by police for illegally filming. Interfax was told about this by the colleague of the murdered director Alexander Rastorguev, Susanna Baranzhiev, with whom he kept in touch while he was in the Central African Republic.
          “The day before the attack, he wrote to me that they were detained by police. I asked why, he replied that you can’t shoot there. The policeman had to give a bribe to get out of there, ”the agency reports her words.
          She also said that journalists were supposed to shoot the bulk of the material on July 30, but the process was delayed due to problems with logistics. Rastorguev complained that the group has no translator and the driver does not understand anything

          They ran into their own arrogance, or did you really want money ?.
          1. kakvastam
            kakvastam 2 August 2018 00: 06
            +3
            It is possible that by giving a bribe, they attracted attention as a potential victim ...
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 1 August 2018 21: 52
          +5
          Quote: APASUS
          Do not find some similarities with what happened in Kiev on the Maidan or Salisbury England - need sacrifice! And the further is not important anymore, the texts are written, the time on the channels is ordered, the circulation of information has begun, about the evil mercenaries from PMCs, and here everything is nearby. PMCs are the authorities - Putin, I think we will all hear it soon.
          Yes, it’s hard to tighten the resemblance hereNo. “Kaku” could be made even closer, because it’s simpler and cheaper, and not drag its tail to the Central African Republic to kill some journalists with an unclear editorial task. What specific task? - they won’t say it anymore, but you can write at least about the fact that they were digging at PMCs, at least about the fact that Hodor donated candy to the kids in diamond mines. They entered incognito and with Khodorkovsky’s money, without notifying the Russian embassy and receiving any armed guards, which suggests that these guys wanted to cut down good money for the muddy report. Cut down ... The lack of integrity and greed have not brought anyone to good.
          1. artifact
            artifact 1 August 2018 23: 10
            +2
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Quote: APASUS
            Do not find some similarities with what happened in Kiev on the Maidan or Salisbury England - need sacrifice! And the further is not important anymore, the texts are written, the time on the channels is ordered, the circulation of information has begun, about the evil mercenaries from PMCs, and here everything is nearby. PMCs are the authorities - Putin, I think we will all hear it soon.
            Yes, it’s hard to tighten the resemblance hereNo. “Kaku” could be made even closer, because it’s simpler and cheaper, and not drag its tail to the Central African Republic to kill some journalists with an unclear editorial task. What specific task? - they won’t say it anymore, but you can write at least about the fact that they were digging at PMCs, at least about the fact that Hodor donated candy to the kids in diamond mines. They entered incognito and with Khodorkovsky’s money, without notifying the Russian embassy and receiving any armed guards, which suggests that these guys wanted to cut down good money for the muddy report. Cut down ... The lack of integrity and greed have not brought anyone to good.

            so maybe the hodor ordered them !? especially since the bloody trail stretches from Nefteyugansk.
          2. APASUS
            APASUS 2 August 2018 19: 38
            0
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Yes, it’s difficult to tighten the resemblance here.

            What's so difficult, they beat on all fronts. When Salisbury played the party, the party of Khodorkovsky comes. After all, the identities were not chosen by chance, and it is much easier to tie the death in the Central African Republic (where the war lasts almost forever) to Wagner's PMC. There aren’t even any accusations or the name of Utkin (the founder and leader), and all the accusations of the liberals are built specifically against the authorities, followed by transition to the personality of Putin.

            But there are still a lot of questions:
            1 In a country where the protection of 10 machine gunners will cost $ 300 a month, the journalists went without security. Did Khodorkovsky regret the money?
            2 In the heap of information about death did not appear information that they were robbed or found equipment with them?
            3 What is wrong with the local driver, what is his role, that you don’t hear anything about him, why?
            4 What was the task that it was necessary to drive 400 km on the roads at night, although even local guards do not move at night?
            But as I expected, the wave in the media is gaining momentum:
            OSCE Representative on Freedom of the Media Arlem Desir shocked by the murder of Russian journalists in the Central African Republic:
            “I am deeply saddened and shocked by the murder of Russian journalists - cameraman Kirill Radchenko, director Alexander Rastorguev and war correspondent Orkhan Dzhemal in the Central African Republic”

            Will Khodorkovsky stop before the killings, if you can profit from them? The death of Nefteyugansk Mayor Vladimir Petukhov, who was killed on the birthday of the ex-owner of Yukos, reminds us that there isn’t. He will even try to extract political capital from your death, and your life for them is just a consumable
            By the way, Khodorkovsky already threw a cry on Twitter and collects a new team to replace ........................... information for consideration
        3. Dezinto
          Dezinto 1 August 2018 23: 02
          +5
          that is, the option that they are just real - no one is considering a corny gang of robbers? Of course, I do not assert anything, just the place where they went - if there is a priest of the world, then somewhere there, besides - the driver who suspiciously survived from all of them, that is, the guide whom they picked up from the locals ... who brought them to the right place.
          But of course it’s much more interesting to shadow the wattle fence. Conspirology is a fascinating thing, yes.
        4. self-propelled
          self-propelled 1 August 2018 23: 30
          +1
          "... need sacrifice ..." - they are needed at any time. the sacrificial lamb is always valuable (especially in troubled times). only, as my opinion, in this case the dead are not pulled by the lamb - maybe something dug up the wrong about "Wagner" (it seems like they were going to make a film about PMCs)?
      3. Baloo
        Baloo 2 August 2018 07: 59
        0
        Quote: Shahno
        Well, why do this in the Central African Republic, you can do it without noise, in terms of how the so-called opposition (there are Bulk and others ...)


        You are all about yours, about sore, about swamp mold and the State Department’s manual position. Robbery? No, a countrywoman, a journalist hodor sent for slaughter. Purpose: Amerza and the French do not want to see Russia within their colonies, especially where uranium, diamonds, tsvetmet, hydrocarbons. To prevent Russia and the Central African Republic from building a mining plant that could help rebuild the Central Asian economy is the goal.

        In the central African city of Damara, Russian mercenaries killed a local resident, according to a local publication, Corbeau News Centrafrique.
        According to the publication, after the murder in the morning of July 31, riots broke out in the city, during which several people died, including, according to unconfirmed information, one Russian.
        Local residents demanded that the Russians leave the city, the Minister of Internal Affairs of the country arrived there.
        Damara is located approximately halfway from the capital of the Central African Republic of Bangui to the city of Sibyu, near which journalist Orkhan Dzhemal, director Alexander Rastorguev and cameraman Kirill Radchenko were killed on the evening of July 31.
        The moment of truth. This is another anti-Russian provocation. Look at the photos of the dead. They were also tortured.
    2. Observer2014
      Observer2014 1 August 2018 20: 17
      +6
      Dog bully hi
      Then don’t go to the grandmother, if you understand who these zhurnalyugi were
      I’m begging you. It’s mainly lately how to tear off your own and get sick to death at work so that you don’t pay a pension. Although, of course, it presents it as “not dealing with this issue” just in case laughing wassat
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 1 August 2018 21: 19
        +2
        Quote: Observer2014
        I’m begging you. He’s mainly lately how to strip his own and rotten to death at work.
        Oh, Seryoga, you touched on the topic ...
        1. Observer2014
          Observer2014 1 August 2018 21: 26
          +2
          sabakina (Vyacheslav)
          Oh, Seryoga, you touched on the topic ..
          Slavik! soldier laughing
          Well, how else? The same site with many topics was created for that. To discuss. To argue. That's the whole interest! drinks
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 1 August 2018 21: 29
            +2
            A dispute is good. The main thing is not to massacre! Well, with a little Friday! drinks
      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 1 August 2018 21: 22
        +2
        Quote: Observer2014
        get sick to death at work so you don't pay a pension

        and in the morning drinks the blood of babies and in the evening of virgins
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 1 August 2018 21: 31
          +3
          What virgins? It has? So it is already known, since the time of Ivan the Terrible.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 1 August 2018 22: 16
            0
            Quote: sabakina
            his virgins? It has?
            the Lord is with you, he drinks blood, in the sense in the morning in infants, and in the evening in virgins
        2. artifact
          artifact 1 August 2018 22: 15
          +1
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          Quote: Observer2014
          get sick to death at work so you don't pay a pension

          and in the morning drinks the blood of babies and in the evening of virgins

          drinking virgins !? what a horror ...
      3. sabakina
        sabakina 1 August 2018 21: 26
        +3
        Oh, and by the way, for some reason I’ve recently recently recalled the Octopus series .... The state-wide mafia ... What will be the end, the question .... The hydra will kill us in the end, if we don’t kill the hydra .. .
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 1 August 2018 22: 38
          0
          and WHAT has he been waving his hands for so long ?!
    3. ANCIENT
      ANCIENT 1 August 2018 20: 33
      +4
      The most disgusting, it’s just what the media arranged for - in essence and meaning of the dance on the bones of the dead! Wait for the investigation to end, but no, the Egsbkrdds got out of the cracks and massively transfer coffee grounds, guessing at it! !! foolDamn, they also hitched a flag to me! !! what This is when the Yankees occupied Rostov-on-Don? ?? belay
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 1 August 2018 20: 56
        +3
        Quote: ANCIENT
        ... "igsbkrddy" got out of the cracks and massively transfer coffee grounds, wondering about it ...

        Doesn't the story of Armata remind? And with pensions? wink
        Actually, "the whole world has gone mad" (c).
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 1 August 2018 21: 39
          0
          Romka, believe me, not all, there are still enlightened people in Russia!

          Well, from myself I’ll add:
    4. nickname7
      nickname7 2 August 2018 19: 20
      0
      three Russian journalists
      in fact, these are not Russian, they are Russophobic journalists. Khodarkovsky sent them to substitute and dig up some dirt in the Russian Federation.
      In this story, the moment is indicative that some Russophobia liberals (Sotnik), having mischievous and not understanding that it was their Russophobia colleagues, branded journalists as Kremlin agents and were happy with their death, tin, but then they had to change their shoes in the air and apologize.

  2. Observer2014
    Observer2014 1 August 2018 20: 11
    +5
    According to experts, the most likely option is that the attack on the Russians was carried out with the aim of robbery against the background of the ongoing civil war in the Central African Republic that year.
    There are a whole bunch of versions. From the article voiced. Before they went to do a report about Wagner, But I catch myself thinking that the topic is in the color of the latest Russian problems. This topic is not at all interesting. They want to punish the special services for the death of our citizens. Yes and flag in hand as they say. But no, then there was nothing to "walk" in Africa hi
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 1 August 2018 20: 14
      +13
      it’s better to wait for the official conclusions, but the surname "Jemal" annoys me ... somehow there is no pity ... I'm probably bad ...
      1. A good one
        A good one 1 August 2018 20: 24
        +11
        No, you're not bad smile
        1. Rostov Papa
          Rostov Papa 1 August 2018 20: 39
          +12
          Another pi ...
          1. Glory1974
            Glory1974 1 August 2018 21: 18
            +4
            Yes. The orientation of the personality is obvious.
          2. Opera
            Opera 1 August 2018 21: 22
            +3
            Rostov, want to say that Jemal just came to visit his friends? Yes it looks like that. Add-at the same time and earn extra money! But, something went wrong ...
        2. sabakina
          sabakina 1 August 2018 21: 41
          +1
          Is it really hopeless? belay
      2. LMN
        LMN 1 August 2018 21: 22
        +7
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        it’s better to wait for the official conclusions, but the surname "Jemal" annoys me ... somehow there is no pity ... I'm probably bad ...

        ..not you alone apparently bad feel
      3. avt
        avt 2 August 2018 12: 08
        +4
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        the surname "Cemal" annoys me ... somehow there is no pity ... I'm probably bad ...

        Az sinful is also rude, not feminine. Orkhan is the hereditary enemy of Russia in the second generation (the daddy is eternal, now also deceased dissident in the USSR and also a stubborn Islamist-world caliph, so that the berry is not far from the buttock), whatever the name, the stubborn Islamist. He was an enemy who, if he were Russian, would already be sitting at 282. Even if, it suddenly turns out, that he is such a secret agent as Mannerheim. wassat That from his public statements alone there is more harm than if he had scampered something. By the way, his papel is Geidar, who, like on TV in the heat of the day, threw Trotsky as an ideal among the Bolsheviks. So these hereditary instigators of chaos in the World, but under the black, Islamic banners, received from the Almighty what is needed and quite timely.
    2. kapitan92
      kapitan92 1 August 2018 20: 26
      +10
      Quote: Observer2014
      But no, then there was nothing to “walk in Africa”

      hi Everything is muddy there! There was no editorial assignment, the embassy didn’t “check out”, flew like tourists, privately. What for? Who hired and funded? Purpose? Cut the money down - cut it down!
      Earth they rest in peace, who is not without sin on this ball.
      According to info - "beat" of 10 trunks, and drove alive !!! Probably a witness was needed that Arabic-speaking people were "wet".
      Everything is muddy there - muddy! hi
      1. Opera
        Opera 1 August 2018 20: 37
        +4
        Now, if the "witness" after giving testimony himself sink into oblivion, then your truth!
        1. kapitan92
          kapitan92 1 August 2018 20: 48
          +1
          Quote: Oper
          Now, if the "witness" after giving testimony himself sink into oblivion, then your truth!

          We will not recognize her, this truth! hi
          1. Opera
            Opera 1 August 2018 20: 53
            +10
            And we already know everything! Khodorkovsky is not the best company for normal people.
            1. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 1 August 2018 21: 32
              +1
              Remember how many really honest people were indignant at the time that Khodorkovsky was being “squeezed out of business” by Bloody Gebna and all that jazz ... Now Khodorkovsky is in a bad tone .. Time puts everything in its place!
              1. Opera
                Opera 1 August 2018 21: 38
                +6
                People tend to make mistakes. Khodorkovsky is not a bad tone. Khodorkovsky enemy!
              2. artifact
                artifact 1 August 2018 22: 38
                +1
                Quote: 30 vis
                Remember how many really honest people were indignant at the time that Khodorkovsky was being “squeezed out of business” by Bloody Gebna and all that jazz ... Now Khodorkovsky is in a bad tone .. Time puts everything in its place!

                I remember, seeming from the strength of 1 percent of the total population !? that is, purely liberal shit. not!? not this way!? and I’ll tell you that after the 90s people simply longed for “blood” such as Khadarkovsky, Gusinsky, Berizovsky.
                1. Xnumx vis
                  Xnumx vis 2 August 2018 09: 22
                  +1
                  Quote: artifact
                  and I’ll tell you that after the 90s people simply longed for “blood” such as Khadarkovsky, Gusinsky, Berizovsky.

                  People stupidly survived .. Divided one ham (!!!) into a family of four .. He buried parents and friends ... It was not up to all this gang of fraternity. Khodorkovsky if my memory serves me, dispossessed in the 2000s! There were not a few pityful ones ... A person is being squeezed out by a “bloody shit”. A type, he has today, and tomorrow they will take the last from us .. There were many such, not one percent, Now how many dissatisfied are screaming? Time will pass, they will also say "one percent" ...
        2. sabakina
          sabakina 1 August 2018 22: 21
          +1
          Quote: Oper
          Now, if the "witness" after giving testimony himself sink into oblivion, then your truth!
          Igor, testimony in Africa? Are you just born? You’re more likely to have a voodoo sorcerer than a witness! If at all, not you will testify to him ... wink
      2. Royalist
        Royalist 1 August 2018 21: 26
        +3
        "drove alive," something tells me that she drove also with "deeds." Which of the locals will figure it out, and even more so in a country where stability and order, like Moscow before cancer, are all the more so. I would think three times how to get involved in such a mutnyak
      3. artifact
        artifact 1 August 2018 22: 40
        0
        Quote: kapitan92
        Quote: Observer2014
        But no, then there was nothing to “walk in Africa”

        hi Everything is muddy there! There was no editorial assignment, the embassy didn’t “check out”, flew like tourists, privately. What for? Who hired and funded? Purpose? Cut the money down - cut it down!
        Earth they rest in peace, who is not without sin on this ball.
        According to info - "beat" of 10 trunks, and drove alive !!! Probably a witness was needed that Arabic-speaking people were "wet".
        Everything is muddy there - muddy! hi

        in the Russian spring I read that they were first questioned, tortured, and then killed
  3. Oleg Monarchist
    Oleg Monarchist 1 August 2018 20: 17
    +3
    That's just about the French state military company - the French foreign legion, that is not a word or where ....
    1. kapitan92
      kapitan92 1 August 2018 20: 46
      +1
      Quote: Oleg Monarchist
      That's just about the French state military company - the French foreign legion, that is not a word or where ....

      The Legion was created in 1831. The Legion is part of the ground forces of France legally, which can not be said about PMCs in Russia. hi
      1. sir_obs
        sir_obs 1 August 2018 21: 30
        +2
        The Legion was created in 1831. The Legion is part of the ground forces of France legally, which can not be said about PMCs in Russia.

        Only here with the legality of his actions around the world are problems, however.
        1. Weyland
          Weyland 2 August 2018 10: 35
          0
          Quote: sir_obs
          Only here with the legality of his actions around the world are problems, however.

          We don't care which country
          To sweep away the popular system,
          And not in others, as not in me
          No pity, no compassion.
          Keep a record: in which year, -
          For us an unnecessary burden;
          And now, in the desert, as in hell,
          We go to the indignant Druze.
          Seventeen-year period
          Passed without rushing through the world;
          Still the sky and the sand
          Look blithely at Palmyra,
          Among the destroyed columns.
          But the surviving columns
          Our Foreign Legion -
          Heir to the Roman legions.
          (The "legionnaire" N. Turoverov is a Don Cossack, a white emigrant - which explains the lack of pity and compassion for popular uprisings).
  4. Yak28
    Yak28 1 August 2018 20: 23
    +5
    Extreme situations should be avoided, not climbed there with your head. This is the reason for the death of journalists.
  5. Opera
    Opera 1 August 2018 20: 24
    +9
    Journalists of some publications themselves PR on the topic of PMCs sucking reports from the finger without getting up from the couch! These three went under the auspices of some kind of incomprehensible organization of Khodorkovsky. We drove in like tourists. They did not contact the embassy workers. Hired or some driver was waiting for them. Maybe someone else ... Let's go somewhere and don't give a damn about curfew ... The result is more likely than not! Of course I express my condolences to the relatives!
    All other official and unofficial journalists would like to say - don’t go where you shouldn’t go, don’t need to make Jamesbones from yourself, if you’ll arbitrarily and secretly go to such countries and for some clandestine purposes, be prepared to just die, don’t mess with traitors to the homeland and certainly do not cooperate with Khodorkovsky and the like!
  6. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 1 August 2018 20: 30
    +1
    ... for the purpose of robbery ...
    According to the latest media reports, the journalists were interrogated, tortured and then killed. For a robbery, it’s really cool. It's more likely someone’s order.
    1. sir_obs
      sir_obs 1 August 2018 21: 32
      +2
      According to the latest media reports,


      All information is taken at best from social networks. This is now the most reliable and reliable source, if you listen to the Americans.
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 1 August 2018 22: 28
      +1
      Tried to find out the military secret of the SU-57? Negros? They don’t even have to torture, they have Voodoo sorcerers.
  7. Operator
    Operator 1 August 2018 20: 38
    +4
    Damn, Khodorkovsky paid for a secret operation in a foreign country where a civil war is taking place with the participation of Islamic terrorists - this is understandable, he himself is completely safe.

    But here are three domestic and d and on about how could go on a trip deep into the battle zone, and even without notifying the Russian embassy, ​​local authorities, without protection and completely ignoring the advice of local law enforcement forces?

    It’s clear that the leader of the group, Dzhemal (who has recently grown to the size of a hog) is a hereditary Russophobe, but how could two Russians buy this provocation — did they turn a blind eye?

    Moreover, the "sensation" was not worth a damn - the presence of Russian civilian instructors in the CAR 150 was known back in March of this year. from the official report of the Russian Foreign Ministry, and several Western media managed to photograph their work.
    1. den3080
      den3080 1 August 2018 20: 43
      +2
      So go Hodor and assured them: Go, guys, everything will be chiki-farts. The West is with us!
      He is not the first time.
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 1 August 2018 22: 30
      0
      Khodorkovsky and the special operation? belay Rather, Clinton is tied up than Khodorkovsky. Or Teresa May ...
    3. Tank hard
      Tank hard 2 August 2018 10: 24
      0
      Quote: Operator
      But here are three domestic and d and on about how could go on a trip deep into the battle zone, and even without notifying the Russian embassy, ​​local authorities, without protection and completely ignoring the advice of local law enforcement forces?

      Quos Deus perdere vult dementat prius. Yes
  8. den3080
    den3080 1 August 2018 20: 39
    +1
    Quote: Shahno
    Still alive, but in a political sense, rather not ...

    And thank God that in the political ... no
  9. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 1 August 2018 20: 40
    +2
    Journalists are not scouts. Why did Khodorkovsky send these journalists to the "raid" without security, without cover - something very much looks like a provocation. They illegally made their way into the country, did not register at the embassy, ​​hired a local driver, "shone" money, no weapons, no guards. And what did they expect? Drove - gunner, stukanul who needs it, went out shot, robbed. And the ends - into the jungle ... Wanted to get sensational material about "Putin's mercenaries" in the Central African Republic? Or did they make a sacred sacrifice?
    1. Opera
      Opera 1 August 2018 20: 58
      0
      And what is sacred ?! But for the material about the “Putin mercenaries” Khodorkovsky, of course, was ready to pay! And paid. Perhaps a certain video sequence was needed, and even a “revealing text” behind the scenes was a matter of technology.
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 2 August 2018 00: 53
        +1
        Quote: Oper
        And what is sacred ?!

        C'mon, you don’t understand ??
        Journalists, liberal publications ... They are going to write about Putin's mercenaries ... They are ambushed (mercenaries), they are tortured (who sent?), And then they kill ...
        It's a lot cooler than Salisbury wink
  10. sabakina
    sabakina 1 August 2018 21: 02
    +4
    Well, what can I say to that? Moreover, without registration at the Russian Embassy ....
  11. Royalist
    Royalist 1 August 2018 21: 15
    0
    Quote: Borisovich
    Quote: Shahno
    it is possible without noise, in terms of how the so-called opposition (there Navalny

    How? Bulk too? When? Where? Where to carry cloves ?????

    Him shit dog and oily, and you cloves
  12. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 1 August 2018 21: 19
    +2
    why everyone is talking about journalists, they arrived there on a tourist visa and did not have accreditation
  13. Apollo
    Apollo 1 August 2018 21: 24
    +2
    They themselves are to blame. The desire to make good money, dulled the sense of self-preservation.
    After all, the presence of representatives of Russian power structures in the Central African Republic is not a secret.
  14. Royalist
    Royalist 1 August 2018 21: 31
    0
    Quote: 16112014nk
    ... for the purpose of robbery ...
    According to the latest media reports, the journalists were interrogated, tortured and then killed. For a robbery, it’s really cool. It's more likely someone’s order.

    It’s clear that it’s not a side to a robbery. If only here Khodorkovsky “lit up” then all you can expect is at least the Martian special forces, but not the usual robbery
  15. Royalist
    Royalist 1 August 2018 21: 36
    0
    Quote: Shahno
    Still alive, but in a political sense, rather not ...

    I would prefer that in the political and physical sense, “probably not”
  16. Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 1 August 2018 21: 38
    +1
    Quote: Operator
    But here are three domestic and d and on about how could go on a trip deep into the battle zone, and even without notifying the Russian embassy, ​​local authorities, without protection and completely ignoring the advice of local law enforcement forces?

    They wanted sensations and good money .. Yes, and they were most likely promised that they distribute sweets there, these very kind uncles Islamists are terrorists
  17. mavrus
    mavrus 1 August 2018 22: 03
    0
    Quote: Borisovich
    Quote: Shahno
    it is possible without noise, in terms of how the so-called opposition (there Navalny

    How? Bulk too? When? Where? Where to carry cloves ?????

    Carnations are very fat for him ... But carnations, in order to hammer the lid of the coffin, we will do it with great pleasure.
  18. Cheldon
    Cheldon 1 August 2018 22: 07
    +1
    With this money you can live in the CAR for a whole year.

    In Russia, 1.5 years can be extended.
  19. Moskovit
    Moskovit 1 August 2018 22: 42
    +1
    The costs of the profession sometimes exceed profits. If journalists makhanuli at curfew, then someone gave them guarantees. The driver is alive for a reason turned out to be ...
    Khodorkovsky’s entire path is covered in blood. Who knows how to create Yukos confirm. And even now, people are dying because of him. Victim of the regime.
  20. LMN
    LMN 1 August 2018 22: 42
    +3
    Do not dig a hole for another; you yourself will fall into it.
  21. flicker
    flicker 1 August 2018 22: 44
    +2
    Well, what sensational could they take off? I think nothing special.
    Sometimes an unexpected death is itself a central NEWS. Is it not for this "news" that they were sent there?
    1. Dormidont
      Dormidont 1 August 2018 23: 11
      +1
      So once again the recidivist Khodorkovsky could light up
  22. Dormidont
    Dormidont 1 August 2018 23: 10
    +1
    Greed is to blame
    1. LMN
      LMN 1 August 2018 23: 27
      +4
      Quote: Dormidont
      Greed is to blame

      Is greed? what
      In my opinion, there were not only motives there; they were all the same united as liberals.
      And just the worldly wisdom worked: Do not dig a hole for another, you yourself will fall into it.

      They arrived there (judging by the info) to dig under Putin, under Russia. They accumulated .. crying
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 2 August 2018 01: 25
        +2
        Quote: LMN
        In my opinion, there were not only motives there; they were all the same united as liberals.

        Not all ... Kirill Radchenko, worked for Anna News in Syria ... A cool operator, and he was in the Donbass, for our part ...
        But Jamal, this yes ... A. Kots writes, "Orkhan went to Mariupol, to do an interview with Navoz ... And then, to Gorlovka to Bezler."
        He does not protect them, they were pros. Just like military commissars .. A bunch of business trips and reports.
        IMHO: Hodor, something they could be interested in, not only with money ...
        They were stopped at a checkpoint at 18-00 (local). And strongly, they offered to spend the night. Disobedient though pros request So, there were guarantees .. But from whom, if they are there, not officially .. ??
        1. LeonidL
          LeonidL 2 August 2018 06: 06
          +1
          From whom, from whom ... From Hodor the "guarantee" ...
  23. lopvlad
    lopvlad 1 August 2018 23: 13
    +2
    Who is to blame?


    Khodorkovsky and the greed of the loggers themselves who want to cut dough to the detriment of personal security. It's like walking in a foreign area in the 90s, but they could even cut the area even in public transport.
    The Zhunalugs thought they were immortal but did not guess.
  24. Million
    Million 1 August 2018 23: 24
    0
    The money is to blame ...
  25. Sadko88
    Sadko88 1 August 2018 23: 37
    0
    The preparation for the trip is to blame.
    Starting with a visa. . And frivolity in choosing a support and the lack of an experienced fighter in the team ...
    1. LMN
      LMN 1 August 2018 23: 56
      +3
      Quote: Sadko88
      The preparation for the trip is to blame.
      Starting with a visa. . And frivolity in choosing a support and the lack of an experienced fighter in the team ...

      An experienced fighter .. represented by Russia wink
      1. Sadko88
        Sadko88 2 August 2018 00: 02
        0
        In the person of a security specialist.
        1. LMN
          LMN 2 August 2018 00: 13
          +3
          Quote: Sadko88
          In the person of a security specialist.

          How would he help them ?? request
          1. Sadko88
            Sadko88 2 August 2018 00: 34
            0
            No, why not help?
  26. Apollo
    Apollo 1 August 2018 23: 37
    +2
    Quote: Moskovit
    The costs of the profession sometimes exceed profits. If journalists makhanuli at curfew, then someone gave them guarantees. The driver is alive for a reason turned out to be ...
    Khodorkovsky’s entire path is covered in blood. Who knows how to create Yukos confirm. And even now, people are dying because of him. Victim of the regime.

    Well, after all, before you rush into Khodorkovsky’s arms for a good fee, you need to think about it with your head. Especially knowing about his ambiguous past.
  27. Apollo
    Apollo 1 August 2018 23: 39
    +2
    Quote: Million
    The money is to blame ...

    Blame for their own stupidity, blind faith in the decency of the "employer" and a thirst for money.
  28. XXXIII
    XXXIII 2 August 2018 00: 26
    +2
    Who is to blame?
    Maybe they were representing arms interests there, since they were not officially noted! And apparently, they knew where to rent and where to go, so they didn’t just ride and felt too confident, they weren’t afraid to go at night .... bully
    They killed because they didn’t agree, not to let them go just like that ..... bully
  29. Cottodraton
    Cottodraton 2 August 2018 02: 45
    +1
    Poor liberals, again for a foreign democracy, fell like sacrificial lambs.
    Their examples of Skripals, Voronenkovs and other cosmopolitans do not teach anything (
  30. Vard
    Vard 2 August 2018 03: 34
    +1
    There is such a thing ... Victim behavior ... This is when they are looking for adventure at their fifth point ... And now the whole world should be upset ... And who is to blame?
  31. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 2 August 2018 03: 38
    0
    And that ISIS was hiding? -To take it upon yourself. You look at the money, throwing money, I would throw it, for "work" !!! Jemal is “a wolf beaten”, so something went wrong! or really just burglars.
  32. Mwg
    Mwg 2 August 2018 03: 51
    0
    Kingdom of heaven. Condolences to the family and friends ...
  33. Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 2 August 2018 04: 41
    0
    I had about 8,5 thousand dollars with me (by the standards of a poor country - a fortune) and two expensive video cameras. With this money you can live in the CAR for a whole year.
    ________________________________
    excluding cameras this is 44,5 tr per month .... Then what is our country, if for 70-80% of the country's population this is an exorbitant amount ...
  34. LeonidL
    LeonidL 2 August 2018 06: 03
    0
    The provocateurs who sent the journalist to certain death are to blame, but they themselves should have understood that it is life-threatening to mess with the convict Khodor, Novaya Gazeta and other foul-smelling personalities.
  35. tap
    tap 2 August 2018 07: 29
    0
    Chukovsky did not read in childhood about the evil robber? Do not go, children, to Africa for a walk ...
  36. igorbrsv
    igorbrsv 2 August 2018 07: 40
    0
    There they could be devoured so hard that they inflated
  37. Brigadier
    Brigadier 2 August 2018 08: 17
    +1
    Khodorkat went there for the "fried facts." Here they were fried with spices. Why should we spare them? For that fought for it and ran...
    Now the Americans will tighten sanctions against us ... such as "not specifically saved ..." lol
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  38. AID.S
    AID.S 2 August 2018 12: 03
    +1
    Who is guilty? Media puts forward versions of the death of journalists in the CAR

    Did the letter call on the road? To highlight the problems of the Tsar Zemlya?
  39. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 2 August 2018 16: 08
    +1
    For me it’s like “white helmets”, they covered themselves well, but the rest is all the same.
  40. Parade
    Parade 2 August 2018 19: 34
    0
    It seems that the guys really framed someone and they were already waiting for the murder and planned provocation, maybe the CIA was rude to blacken Russia and PMCs again, presenting their dirty and bloody footprint for the Russian one ???