Rehabilitated posthumously. "A very peculiar person with a rather famous past." Part of 1

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Berzin forever inscribed his name in history development of the modern Magadan region. He headed the trust "Dalstroy", being, in fact, the owner of a distant and vast territory. His name is often found in the stories of Varlam Shalamov on Visherlag and Dalstroy. But that was later. Eduard Petrovich began his career as a Latvian rifleman. Then he became a security officer and took part in unraveling the conspiracy of foreign ambassadors against the Bolshevik government, being an ally of Dzerzhinsky. After - camp work. But in 1937, the roller of repression reached Kolyma. In distant Moscow, no one forgot about Berzin.



Career

Edward Berzin (his real surname is Berzins) was born in 1893 in a peasant family. At first they lived in the Staro-Pebalsky volost of Volmarsky district of Livonia province (modern Latvia). But in 1898, the family moved to Riga. Edward studied in one of the local schools, mastered painting craft. And in 1910, he left for Germany. Here Berzin graduated from the Royal Berlin Art School. Then he returned to his native Latvia. And soon he was called up for military service. At the beginning of 1915, he took part in the First World War as part of the fourth Vidzeme Latvian rifle battalion. In the military field, Berzin managed to give a good account of himself. He was honored with a silver medal on the Stanislavsky ribbon with the inscription "For Diligence", as well as the St. George Cross of the Fourth Degree. In 1917, he became an officer.

After the October Revolution, Berzin became one of those who formed the first light artillery division of the Latvian infantry Soviet division. Soon he also headed this division. In general, in the first years of the Bolshevik power, Berzin had a very busy life. And he fully justified the confidence of the authorities. For example, in the summer of 1918, Eduard Petrovich became one of the main actors in suppressing the insurgency of the Left SRs in Moscow. A little later, Berzin took an active part in uncovering the “Lockhart case”. The British ambassador — the chief conspiracy — with the support of a French diplomat, an American agent, and a developed espionage network, tried to impose his order in the ruling Bolshevik elite. Berzin met with Lockhart under the guise of a consonant to the Latvian riot shooter. The Briton offered him a large sum of money to bribe other shooters. The money was received by Edward Petrovich from the famous spy Sydney Reilly and transferred to the “where to”. And after the disclosure of the conspiracy, Berzin returned to the military field. At the end of 1918, he fought with the White Guards on both the Western and South-Western and Eastern fronts of the bloody civil war.

And during the Oryol-Kromsky battle, which took place in October 1919, Eduard Petrovich held the position of the head of supply for the Latvian rifle division. Then in his life there were several more important fights with the White Guards. And in 1921, Berzin became an employee of the special department of the Cheka, and after - OGPU. In the official security officers, he passed about six years. Until in 1927 of the year, he proposed in the USSR Supreme Council of National Economy a plan for the construction of the Vishera pulp and paper mill (PPM). According to Berzin, the enterprise should have been located in the village of Vizhaiha (now Krasnovishersk) in the Northern Urals. "Tops" Berzin's idea was supported. But due to various circumstances the case was delayed. Affected and lack of necessary equipment. Therefore, Eduard Petrovich followed him in the company of several specialists in 1929, first went to Germany and then to the USA. Formally, construction of the construction of the Vishersky Pulp and Paper Mill of the OGPU started only at the beginning of 1931. And all the work was laid on the shoulders of the prisoners of Vishlag (there, by the way, Varlam Shalamov was serving the sentence). The work went very quickly. So quickly that the pulp and paper mill was built in just a year and a half.


Edward Berzin with his wife Elsa


While construction was underway, Eduard Petrovich was given the chair of the Dalstroy trust. This is a state enterprise, which was commissioned to engage in the development of territory in the Upper Kolyma region. Looking ahead, we can say that Berzin subsequently combined the posts of the authorized collegium of the OGPU of the USSR, Dalcraykom VKP (b), Dalcray Executive Committee and the head of the Nagaev-Magadan garrison of the Okhotsk-Kolyma region.

Many, and most importantly, very interesting about Berzin wrote Shalamov. Here is one of his memories: “Dzerzhinsky, with his constant interest in converting people, to various communes to street kids, impressed Berzin with his passion, his love. At that time, from Solovki, from USLON, bad news came about “Smoking-room”, about “mosquito-fighting”, beatings, about arbitrariness, about the drunkenness of the camp authorities, and the Solovki affairs were engaged in the affairs. It was decided to build these affairs in a new way, finding people who would understand how difficult science is to help a person, how dangerous and difficult power over disenfranchised people are. He, Berzin, was entrusted with the first experiment of this kind. "

The position of the head of the state trust for industrial and road construction Berzin, in fact, was given for the fact that he brilliantly coped with the task of building a pulp and paper mill. Actually, Stalin himself recommended him for the post of director of Dalstroi. Subsequently, the trust will be reorganized into the “Main Directorate for the Construction of the Far North”.

In fact, this enterprise was a paramilitary and its tasks were the same. And the choice of the location of its deployment was reasonable. The fact is that there the First Kolyma Geological Prospecting Expedition was able to confirm the presence of gold. And in such quantities that it could be mined on an industrial scale. This was stated in the decree of the Council of Labor and Defense of the USSR on 1931: “There was a need to create a powerful economic organization that could as soon as possible, in parallel with further exploration and development of mineral resources, start building roads, sea and air ports and settlements on a wide front” .

And in the Nagareva Bay (modern - Magadan) Berzin sailed at the beginning of February 1932 on the Sakhalin ship. Along with him on the development of distant and unknown land came freelance employees of the trust, about a hundred prisoners and arrows of the paramilitary guards.

The owner of the Kolyma

Eduard Petrovich was not only the director of Dalstroi. In fact, he became the full owner of not only the territory, but also all the people who were in his submission. "Tops" understood that he faced a difficult task, so his powers were limited to a very conditional framework. And Berzin, in full, took advantage of the privileges received. He founded his own "state in the state." Shalamov wrote in the story "Berzin": "He was the master of life and death of tens of thousands of people, the highest party instance, the main Soviet government of the golden land, the commander of the border troops on the border with Japan and America."

Researcher Ivan Paniakarov wrote in the book “Kolymsky GULAG in 30-e years”: “Exactly 5 years, 10 months and 15 days Eduard Petrovich had to lay the city, build the first berths of the seaport, industrial enterprises, power station. When it opened the first school and boarding schools for the children of the local population, a library, film installations appeared in two good clubs from the chopped wood to show dumb, and then sound films. Already in the year of his arrival, a small theatrical group was created in the Office of the Northeastern Forced Labor Camps (USVITLA), which began the history of the Magadan State Music and Drama Theater. In the center of the future of Magadan, at the direction of Edward Petrovich, a huge taiga array was left untouched in order to turn it into a city park of culture and recreation. Looking today at the 30 photographs, you will be surprised to find modern asphalt paths, the remains of buildings of those years in the old parkways of the park, and you feel great gratitude to people who even thought about us in those terrible years ... And two years after the arrival of the first director Dalstroy Kolyma has become the leading currency shop of the country! ”

In Kolyma, of course, we did not forget about gold mining. In 1932, this figure was quite modest - about five hundred kilograms. But two years later, Berzin was able to put the case on stream. And the result of extraction exceeded five and a half tons. And in 1936, this figure was increased to thirty-three tons. Such successes, of course, did not go unnoticed. Iosif Vissarionovich was also pleased. At the end of 1933, in an interview for the New York Times, he said: “Our products have already doubled the production of tsarist times and now gives more than 100 million rubles a year. Especially in the last two years, we have improved our exploration methods and found large reserves of gold. ”

But what Eduard Petrovich himself said about the gold mining in 1936 in an interview for the newspaper Pravda: “One day Kolyma produces gold so much that with this money you can feed the whole world for one day”.

By the way, by that time dozens of mines and farms were working on the territory subject to Berzin. Many villages were founded, and they built power plants, hospitals and schools. The connection was maintained thanks to the Kolyma highway, which stretched for more than six hundred kilometers. Not without cost, of course, without prison camps.


Berzin with his daughter Mirdza


Ivan Paniakarov wrote: “By the middle of the 30-s, mines already existed in the central areas of the Kolyma:“ Verkhniy At-Uryakh ”, named after Vodopyanova,“ Partizan ”,“ Shturmovaya ”,“ Five-Year Plan ”and others. Their main workforce was, of course, prisoners. In fact, each locality was a camp. The prisoners of the middle of the 30-s were kept in camps, not at all similar to those that appeared in the Kolyma at the beginning of the 1938 of the year. ”

But the memories of a former prisoner by the name of Vygon. He was kept just in the camp "Partizan": "The territory of this town was not fenced with barbed wire. Yes, and the work of prisoners were taken without a convoy. The work is ordinary: mining in the face and transportation to the dumps of gold-bearing sands ... "

Interestingly, until the mid-thirties, the life of prisoners was not particularly limited. They were free to move around the camp-village, to buy the necessary products in the store. In addition, each of them had their own account in the savings bank, which received their salary. Yes, deductions were made from this money, but still the amounts were decent. In addition, prisoners could write letters and send telegrams. They had the right to call their families to the village.

Varlam Shalamov recalled: “Why did the Kolyma years, from 1932 to 1937, inclusive, drop out of the chronicles of shoots? This is the time when Edward Petrovich Berzin worked there ... He tried, very successfully, to solve the problem of the colonization of the harsh region and at the same time the problems of "forging" and isolation. Offsets that allowed return to ten-year-olds in two or three years. Excellent food, clothing, working day in winter 4-6 hours, in summer - 10 hours, huge earnings for prisoners, allowing them to help families and return after the deadline to the mainland by wealthy people. Edward Petrovich did not believe in reforging the blatari, he knew this shaky and vile human material all too well. It was difficult for thieves to get to Kolyma during the first years ... The prisoners' cemeteries of those times were so small that one could think that the inhabitants of Kolyma were immortal. Nobody ran with Kolyma and did not run - that would be nonsense, nonsense ... ”

Memories of Pyotr Georgievich Kupriyanov, who was the head of the technical department of the Zyryansk exploitation base, give an insight into what kind of person Berzin was: “In 1936, going round the Kolymo-Indigirka Shipping Company, Berzin came here for the first time. A tall man who started to slouch. Gray beard. Silently walked around the village for a long time, creaking with a leather jacket, looking in all corners. And our Zyryanka was - scary to remember. Built among kochkornika, in the swamp, the barracks of unmolested logs. The dirt is impassable all around ... Berzin personally was looking for a new place for the village. He ordered to build a new settlement at the mouth of the Yasachnaya, on the hill. There is a place for backwaters, and for the transshipment base is convenient. When he left, he said: “I will come next year, so that there will be no trace of this. Burned on both sides. I arrived in June, when the construction of the second stage of the village and the new complex was already ending. I am satisfied ...

Another such fact I remember. The supplyers did not deliver the new pulleys, so we got the knack of making them out of plywood. And she - the deficit is expensive. Edward Petrovich smiled and said: well, they say, the material is expensive, you do not mind the money of the state? Huge millions he set in motion here in the North, and forced to keep every penny ... "

Such an attitude to people and to work, naturally, gave results very quickly. Researcher Alexander Kozlov wrote: “By the end of 1937, the construction of a support base in Magadan and Nagaevo was completed, the laying of the main canvas of the Kolyma highway and its branches to the mines, the creation of the Nagaevsky sea port, its own sea and river fleets, a number of airports, car depots, diesel power stations, state farms, collective farms, fish farms, etc. In the period 1932-1937. Dalstroy mined almost 106 tons of chemically pure gold. From 1937 in the "Dagger" and "Butugichag" mines, he began to mine the second negotiable metal - tin. In total for the period 1932-1937. capital investments in Dalstroi's exploration work amounted to 88,6 million rubles. ”

Memories of Eduard Petrovich of the blacksmith of the Zyryanskaya motor depot are preserved: “In May 1936 lived in Magadan, worked in car repair shops. Some say: "Berzin has arrived!". About him in our city there were whole legends. Enters the workshop, with each said hello. He stood beside me, looked at how I worked, and suggested that I suddenly move to live in Zyryanka. “It’s very hard there with working hands,” he says. And I do not know where this very Zyryanka. It turned out more than a thousand kilometers from Magadan ... Then, a year later, he met with Eduard Petrovich here. Amazing he was a man - he did not promise the mountains of gold, nor the manna of heaven. At first we lived in tents. This is in our winter ... "



Very interesting memories from Alexander Fedorovich Gudimenko. He was born in Belgorod, graduated from the nine-year school. At the end of 20, he worked as a mechanic at a railroad depot. And then he moved to Rostov-on-Don. Here Alexander Fedorovich decided to change his career. He graduated from the chauffeur courses and returned to Belgorod. Led the most ordinary and unremarkable way of life of an ordinary hard worker. And on a piece of bread, Gudimenko earned labor in the garage of the Soyuzplodovosch association. Then he could not imagine that in 1932, his life will change dramatically. He was unjacked arrested and sentenced to imprisonment in labor camps in the Far North. Later, being free, Alexander Fedorovich wrote the book “Behind the Flight Flight”. In it, he told about his life of the convict, who had to work in Kolyma in the Directorate of motor transport "Dalstroy". Here is a small fragment of memoirs: “I had heard about Berzin from the first days of my arrival to Kolyma, and I personally met only in 1934. It happened when the director Dalstroy was driving along the highway and stopped in our team, which was known for its steady progress in the transportation of goods. After talking with us, asking about plans and difficulties in work, having learned that we were suffering during a bad road without good shoes, he ordered everyone to give out waders with long boots. And they were not so easily knocked from the suppliers. “Wear it for health,” said Edward Petrovich, and jokingly added: “But just do not think that the main thing in labor is just legs.” I was struck by his manner of conversation, the simplicity with which he stayed not only with former prisoners, but also those who were serving time ...

In June 1935, I was released early. Soon I got married, my daughter Tamara was born ... I was already involved in the Stakhanov movement, competing with other drivers, became the winner in the autumn-winter transportation of 1935 / 36 of the year. The results were summed up somewhere in the first half of May. A few days later Eduza Petrovich’s wife, Elsa Yanovna, came to me. Then everyone knew that she was an excellent photographer and took pictures for the newspaper Sovetskaya Kolyma. Seeing her, I was at first very embarrassed, but, having searched myself, I answered all questions as calmly as possible. “Well, now I’ll photograph you,” Elsa Yanovna suddenly said, and clicked the camera. A few days later, the picture she took appeared in the "Soviet Kolyma" and then in the magazine "Kolyma". My wife really liked this picture, and for a long time she kept a clipping from a newspaper ...

For the construction of a power station in the village of Sporny, it was necessary to transport the Finner Gamper boiler. He weighed 16 tons. At that time, no one else was transporting such weight on Kolyma. The boiler was located in the bay Nagaeva. Delivery of it, given the previous successful shipments, was entrusted to me. It is difficult to convey how the flight was going, but here I am from Nagaev, together with the attendant, arrived in Magadan. Stopped at the bridge over the Magadanka river. Here I was waited by the heads of the motor depot, as well as the head of the Department of motor transport Dalstroy I.Ye. Pritulyuk. Soon E.P. Berzin. Having greeted him, he walked around the boiler attached to the car with the trailer, inspected everything, shook his head and, shaking my hand, said: “Though it is heavy, but I am sure that you will deliver it safely.” From such words, a lump rose up in my throat, choking tears.

In Dalstroi, at the time of Berzin, there was a re-education system that was supposed to return a strayed person to a normal road. There were a lot of positive examples. Former criminals (among them drivers) became Stakhanovites, record-breakers, they called their wives and children from the mainland and continued to live and work in Kolyma for free.
... The last farewell of E.P. Berzin I performed. The flight to the Disputed was very difficult, but successful. ”

I must say that Alexander Fedorovich was lucky. He not only survived, but also received early release in June 1935. True, he did not return to his small homeland. And for another ten years, he worked as a freelance worker at several Magadan truck stores.



But Berzin continued to bend his line and equip "the state in the state." It was unlikely that he could have imagined that the approaching 1937 year would be fatal, first for his offspring, and then for himself. Taking into account the type of activity of Eduard Petrovich and his “past achievements”, he has formed, so to speak, a “pool” of detractors and envious ones. And they, as usual, did not sit with folded arms.
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  1. +10
    4 August 2018 06: 14
    I'm sorry about Berzin. Thanks to the author for the story.
    1. +3
      4 August 2018 07: 02
      Quote: Reptiloid
      I'm sorry about Berzin

      All the main events in the life of this subject (including his "achievements" in the Kolyma, the "disclosure" of Zagoraa Lockhart, etc.) are indicated in SENTENCE OF THE COURT OF THE USSR this enemy of the people, traitor and spy:
      SENTENCE

      In the name of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics Military College of the Supreme Court of the USSR


      Mountains Moscow.


      In the composition:

      Presiding: the coronoyurist Matulevich,

      Members: Ivlev, a divorcerer,

      brigvoyenurista Romanicheva.

      Under the Secretary: a military officer of the 1st rank Kosciuszko.


      In a closed court in Moscow

      August 1, 1938, examined the case on charges of: Berzin Eduard Petrovich, b. 1893-58b, 1-58, 7-58, 8-58 and 9-58 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR.

      Preliminary and judicial investigation found that Berzin since 1918 he was an active participant in anti-Soviet nationalist organization and on assignment enemies of the people of Peters systematically supplied english intelligence spyware. Created in 1921 in the special unit of the Cheka, the nationalist Latvian British intelligence and terror group against the leaders of the CPSU (b) and the Soviet government. On assignment enemies of the people of Rudzutak and Bokiya systematically supplied German intelligence spyware about the USSR and the activities of the anti-Soviet underground. On assignment German intelligence created at Vishkhimzavod, where he was a director, sabotage organization for the destruction of factories during the war. In 1931 he established contact on anti-Soviet activities with an enemy of the people of Yagoda, joined the anti-Soviet organization of the right, created in Kolyma, the counter-revolutionary sabotage and espionage and the rebel organization and supplied Japanese intelligence spy materials about Kolyma.

      He personally prepared a terrorist act against Comrade Yezhov.

      Thus, the guilt of Berzin in committing the crimes under Art. 58–1b, 58–7, 58–8, 58–9, and 58–11 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR, and, guided by Articles 319 and 320 of the Criminal Procedure Code of the RSFSR, the Military Collegium of the USSR Supreme Court


      SENTENCED:


      Berzin, Eduard Petrovich, depriving him of his military rank - “Dividendant” and subjecting him to capital punishment - shot with confiscation of property. The verdict is final and, by virtue of a resolution of the Central Executive Committee of the USSR of 1 / XII — 34, is subject to immediate execution.


      Presiding: coronoyurist Matulevich

      Members: Dividendurer Ievlev,

      brigvoyenurist Romanovychev.

      Secretary: 1st rank military officer Kosciuszko



      REFERENCE

      Sentence of the execution of Berzin Eduard Petrovich carried out in the mountains. Moscow 1.VIII.1938. The Act on the enforcement of the sentence is stored in the Special Archive of the 1st Special Department of the NKVD of the USSR, Volume No. 3, Sheet No. 235.


      The beginning 12 departments of 1 special department of the NKVD of the USSR

      state security lieutenant Shevelev


      40 minutes after the verdict and spanked. Very quickly: you see, the enemy was still one, judging by the company of traitors: Peters, Rudzutak, Bokia, Berry... belay
      1. +2
        4 August 2018 07: 46
        These Berzinov countless. This one is Edward. Reinhold from the People's Commissariat. Jan - 2pcs., One - intelligence officer, the other - a diplomat. And they all turned out to be spies, they all banged at 38-39 meters. We would sit on our farms.
      2. +6
        4 August 2018 08: 53
        Whatever he was, an Algerian spy, or a Paraguayan one, he unscrewed the matter. He launched Kolyma, he began to cast gold in Moscow. And others. Nishtyaki useful for defense. And if he wrote poetry and songs to Guatemalan intelligence, then it is unlikely that much has died from us.
        1. +5
          4 August 2018 09: 18
          But the fact is that only the Bolsheviks followed the "" cleanliness of their ranks "" !!! They well remembered the beginning of the 20th century and the theft and theft that was carried out by those in power. Although ---- of course they did not know about everything.
          1. +2
            4 August 2018 10: 45
            Quote: Reptiloid
            But the fact is that only the Bolsheviks followed "" cleanliness of their ranks"" !!!

            Judging by the number of "cleaned out", the rows were crowded. Unclean people Yes No party in the world has ever gathered under its wing such a number of traitors, spies and enemies of the people (as the state called them). If you know examples, tell me.
            By the way, Trotsky, who concluded Brest betrayal with Germany, was officially recognized by Soviet justice ... a German spy and, during Hitler's time, an agent of the Gestapo .

            After such purges, only the purest diamonds should remain, but no, again the Trotskyist opportunists around request recourse And where are the real communists? request recourse
            1. +5
              4 August 2018 11: 14
              Quote: Olgovich
              request recourse
              The Bolsheviks wanted to create officials unlike the tsarist, where the thief was sitting on a thief, despite the war. And how did the real traitors appear? And something like this: Nikolai Konstantinovich Romanov, the Grand Duke. In the days of the February Revolution warmly greeted her, declared himself a political prisoner of the old regime, raised a red flag over his house. Later he accepted the October Revolution. Somehow, the Bolsheviks did not know the reason for his 40-year exile .... There were many such shifters
              1. 0
                4 August 2018 12: 52
                Quote: Reptiloid
                The Bolsheviks wanted to create officialsunlike royal

                Duc and created: TEN TIME more officials became more with the Bolsheviks than in Russia. And all- "specialists" and "hard workers", therefore, one to ten. lol
                Quote: Reptiloid
                And how did the real traitors appear? And something like this: Nikolai Konstantinovich Romanov, Grand Duke.

                belay Traitors are determined only by the COURT.
                And he called it Berzin. And also very much about so many other high-ranking members of the VKPBE.
                1. +6
                  4 August 2018 16: 48
                  Quote: Olgovich
                  belay Traitors are determined only by the COURT. And he called it Berzin. ....

                  So the court determined ---- rehabilitated by the estimate. OR didn’t you understand Russian again? But there were such opportunists as the former Grand Duke tried to be ---- at all levels. Somehow, do not praise him, Romanov ... Yes, and the Tsar’s sister was not sent to poverty in Toronto .... But they could with your love for the autocrat and allusions to kinship in your comments on the article by Oleinikov .....
                  1. -1
                    5 August 2018 10: 08
                    Quote: Reptiloid
                    So the court determined ---- rehabilitated by the estimate. OR didn’t you understand Russian again?

                    1. The STALIN court that you previously recognized was shot by him. But his court rehabilitated the contemptible Trotskyist Khrushchev. And he gave the command to the court. Quickly, you became a Trotskyite Khrushchev! good
                    2. Your “Russian” language, alas, is not Russian: you didn’t give a hint about judicial rehabilitation
                    Quote: Reptiloid
                    But there were such opportunists as the former Grand Duke tried to be ---- at all levels. Somehow, do not praise him, Romanov ..

                    What princes, what kind of opportunists, what relation do princes have to ..... Berzino-Peters? lol
                    Quote: Reptiloid
                    Yes, and the Tsar’s sister was not sent money to poverty in Toronto .... And with your love for the autocrat and hints of kinship in your comments on Oleinikov’s article, you could ..

                    Again, incomprehensible nonsense: what sister, what relationship and to whom, whose? request
                    1. +5
                      5 August 2018 13: 39
                      Continue further, Olgovich, to pretend to be deaf-mute and forgetful. It’s right for you. And I don’t repeat the radio for you ... Or is it another changer came and everything from scratch ....
                      1. -2
                        5 August 2018 16: 15
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        Continue further, Olgovich, to pretend to be deaf-mute and forgetful. It suits you. And I don’t repeat the radio for you.

                        I am your "Russian" language, Reptiloid, I DO NOT understand.
                        I don’t understand WHAT and WHAT do you want to say request
              2. +1
                4 August 2018 19: 07
                Quote: Reptiloid
                And how did the real traitors appear? And something like this: Nikolai Konstantinovich Romanov, Grand Duke. In the days of the February Revolution warmly greeted her, declared himself a political prisoner of the old regime

                You confuse something, Nikolai Konstantinovich was officially declared insane, and for a long time lived in exile, long before the revolutions (the prince was a lot of fools).
                Quote: Reptiloid
                There were many such shifters-adaptors

                So indeed, a person was not in himself, how could he be called an opportunist.
                1. +3
                  4 August 2018 19: 26
                  Quote: bober1982
                  So indeed, a person was not in himself, how could he be called an opportunist.

                  AH-AH-AH! How can ???? And if he was not in himself, would lie in the hospital! Or live in solitude in a special estate! HA HA HA! But how could they send the insane to the link? Already 40 years old! Somehow inhumane! Who did this to him? Indeed, long before the revolution, the Bolsheviks did not exist .... And for what?
                  But the Februaryists did not consider him crazy .... Yes, and the Bolsheviks also ---- how did he circle?
                  1. +1
                    4 August 2018 19: 39
                    Quote: Reptiloid
                    And for what?

                    He was a psycho, and they isolated him, which is not clear.
                    Quote: Reptiloid
                    But the Februaryists did not consider him crazy .... Yes, and the Bolsheviks also ---- how did he circle?

                    These all also had to be isolated, for the company.
                2. +2
                  4 August 2018 20: 09
                  Quote: bober1982
                  You confuse something, Nikolai Konstantinovich was officially declared insane, and for a long time lived in exile, long before the revolutions (the prince was a lot of fools).

                  I hope you understand that between: "was officially declared insane "and was, indeed, insane - are the very, two big, Odessa differences?
                  Quote: bober1982
                  So indeed, a person was not in himself, how could he be called an opportunist.

                  Nikolai Konstantinovich was not "out of himself." Nikolai Konstantinovich was simply, in modern language, too creative for his time and his family. At the same time, he had a bad habit of pouring out his "creatives" on the heads of relatives who considered him de 'Bill (ohm). laughing So, that: to call him an opportunist - well, oh, very difficult.
                  1. +3
                    5 August 2018 07: 18
                    Quote: HanTengri
                    .... he had a bad habit of pouring out his "creativity" on the heads of his de 'Bill (oh) relatives. laughing So, that: to call him an opportunist - well, oh, very difficult.
                    Yes, he is a superadaptive! Nothing crazy. He delivered the money as best he could. for yourself. In Tashkent, one "bazaar of the Grand Duke in the hungry steppe" ---- is worth a lot. And shops, shops, ginneries without waste ... 1,5 million a year. 2 wives. How can someone not organize everything in himself?
            2. 0
              4 August 2018 11: 23
              Until now, they cannot understand that the actions of JV Stalin and the advent of dictatorial power are essentially a coup d'état and a party, with completely different milestones, individually dictatorial, having nothing to do with communist (Bolshevik) democracy ... In the article E. Berzin is repainted, but the basics are probably true, because the results are obvious ...
              1. +4
                4 August 2018 20: 53
                Of course you can’t understand, because they did not study Marxism-Leninism and were not familiar with the program of the Bolshevik party. Turn to the primary sources and then everything will become clear.
                1. -1
                  4 August 2018 22: 02
                  At one time I studied at the University of Marxism-Leninism and you don’t need to talk about programs, and they changed according to the decisions of the congresses ... One program, execution, another, and the devil is hiding in the details ... And if you don’t understand the essence of the statement, So this is only your problem of understanding the actual action, and not reading the program. (Hitler has full socialism for the Germans, according to the program ...) ...
            3. +2
              4 August 2018 12: 15
              Quote: Olgovich
              And where are the real communists?

              Yakovlev, Shevarnadze, Aliyev, Gorbachev are Stalinist communists, they joined the party after it had been cleansed of the Trotskyites-Zinovievists and another trash, they joined under Stalin.
      3. +3
        4 August 2018 11: 19
        Olgovich. You are a grown man, and you must understand that in this case at least 50% of bullshit: a British intelligence agent, and the British agent was exposed. Weird agent
        Of course in that gadyushnik, one of which Peters is worth, there were no cherubs. but relatively decent
        1. -1
          4 August 2018 13: 06
          Quote: Royalist
          Olgovich. You are a grown man, and you must understand that in this case at least 50% of bullshit: a British intelligence agent, and the British agent was exposed. Weird agent

          Duc pretended to interfere with the investigation, reported information about the investigation to the Angles, you are reading, do not guess: [quote] Preliminary and judicial investigation establishedthat Berzin since 1918 on the instructions of the enemy of the people of Peters systematically supplied English intelligence spyware. [/ quote]
          The court has established! Yes . Six months brought the enemy to clean water and, nevertheless, brought them out! Yes
      4. +1
        4 August 2018 11: 46
        And who knows how the long biography has developed: the military mercenary Matulevich, the military paramilitary Ievleva and the military paratrooper Romanicheva? It is quite possible that they were included in such a list only in the role of the accused. Yezhov was still honored
        1. +1
          4 August 2018 14: 06
          Quote: Royalist
          coronoyurist Matulevich It is quite possible that they only got on this list as defendants

          But they didn’t guess!
          Lived a long life shot almost his whole life: starting from the tribunals in the civil proceedings 1918 and up to 1950 Mr. G: Bukharin, Rykov, Pyatakov and others and others, the Leningrad affair, shot ZIS engineers in 1950, until a quiet death in 1961, he worked.
          1. +1
            4 August 2018 14: 39
            Gg, this is not the case where many of the Life Guards of His Majesty the Semenovsky Regiment appeared? Especially gentlemen, comrades from the 3rd battalion ?! Which became famous either in 1905 or in 1906?
      5. +1
        4 August 2018 15: 52
        I would not be surprised if, after a year or two, the members of the trial of Berzin were also shot.
      6. 0
        4 August 2018 19: 03
        Slapping is you and your kind. Wait, there will only be a reason
    2. N83
      0
      16 October 2021 23: 55
      a long-standing discussion, but I only read it in the morning today. and in the evening I looked about Bukharin's letters
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv8C8-PPBHg
      it became interesting: all sorts of Ol'govichi would just as categorically speak of Bukharin as an enemy of the people, a traitor and a spy ...
      How long will the rake hit on the nose?
  2. +5
    4 August 2018 06: 45
    Now probably you can’t say for sure what Berzin was shot for. Maybe for fraud in Dalstroy (as I understand it, there were questions about the planned and actual gold content of the sands. That is, the planned gold content was underestimated, but actually it was higher.), But the espionage was simply sewn.
  3. +4
    4 August 2018 07: 56
    There are so many Russian blood on the Latvian arrows ... Ka there ... I would have hung him dead ...
    1. +7
      4 August 2018 09: 14
      And on the White Guard bayonets ----- whose blood? Why aren't you hanging?
    2. +9
      4 August 2018 11: 53
      Quote: Vard
      There are so many Russian blood on the Latvian arrows ... Ka there ... I would have hung him dead ...

      There is more Russian blood, on Russian arrows, on the most, than on Latvian. Russian will also hang?
      1. 0
        5 August 2018 12: 06
        We will figure it out among ourselves ... but what they got in ... for that they will not be forgiven ...
        1. 0
          7 August 2018 07: 05
          Quote: Vard
          We will figure it out among ourselves ... but what they got in ... for that they will not be forgiven ...

          In the sense - climbed? I see that you just don’t know the history of your country, and you don’t know that the Latvians from the 18th century were Russian citizens.
          1. 0
            7 August 2018 08: 44
            And you tell them this ... you will learn about yourself a lot of new and unusual ...
            1. 0
              7 August 2018 09: 23
              Why would anyone say something? Just someone, you need to open a history textbook, and that’s it.
  4. +4
    4 August 2018 08: 16
    Latvian shooter. That says it all.
    No matter how further life develops.

    Maybe in heaven there is forgiveness. On Russian soil - not sure.
  5. +7
    4 August 2018 08: 48
    The successes of the USSR in industrialization and the development of the far corners of our homeland are impressive. But was it really impossible to do without the labor of slaves?
    It is also instructive that many KGB repressors then put on the ZK robe or stood up "against the wall" as enemies of the people. Of course, I don’t feel sorry for these, but many non-partisan and honored state security workers came under this rink. They would still be very useful, because there was a war ahead of the country. About the higher command of the Red Army is even more painful to say. Many Gorbatov-Rokossovsky did not survive until June 22. Including for this I do not recognize Stalin as a brilliant leader, and even less so a commander.
    1. +2
      4 August 2018 10: 21
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      The successes of the USSR in industrialization and the development of the far corners of our homeland are impressive. But was it really impossible to do without the labor of slaves?

      It was too complicated and required excessive mental work: where to get an attractive salary, how to ensure attractive working conditions, etc.
      And then he ordered, and the case began to boil.
      1. +1
        4 August 2018 10: 52
        I compare times and sometimes it seems to me that little has changed ... No, of course our time is more humane, high technical level, ombundsmen, yes, but this is too disproportionate the salary /// of a modern ordinary employee /// or pension, the contribution that this person makes or has contributed to the development of the country. So everything is getting more expensive, but you have to raise children. It’s more like a prisoner's ration than a fair wage. Don’t feed any manager with bread --- let them cut a salary for an employee. Yes, and working conditions are gangster-bonded --- not everyone has the good fortune to work in a company where they pay white, where all social guarantees and conditions of the labor code are fulfilled to the point.
        And you are interested in a hard worker ... invest not in grandiose events and in foreign assets, but in his well-being. Be on guard of his human well-being, and not deliver cheap gaster ----- I’m sure then productivity will increase, the return will be good. And then this proletariat of the new century will turn mountains for the good of Russia --- standing firmly on his feet and confidently looking into his future, the great fate of his children.
        1. +4
          4 August 2018 11: 19
          Gaster is imported in order to divide the working class and reduce the likelihood of a strong labor movement. For fear. That's what!!!!!.
        2. 0
          8 August 2018 14: 04
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          I compare times and sometimes it seems to me that little has changed ... No, of course our time is more humane, high technical level, ombundsmen, yes, but this is too disproportionate the salary /// of a modern ordinary employee /// or pension, the contribution that this person makes or has contributed to the development of the country. So everything is getting more expensive, but you have to raise children. It’s more like a prisoner's ration than a fair wage. Don’t feed any manager with bread --- let them cut a salary for an employee. Yes, and working conditions are gangster-bonded --- not everyone has the good fortune to work in a company where they pay white, where all social guarantees and conditions of the labor code are fulfilled to the point.
          And you are interested in a hard worker ... invest not in grandiose events and in foreign assets, but in his well-being. Be on guard of his human well-being, and not deliver cheap gaster ----- I’m sure then productivity will increase, the return will be good. And then this proletariat of the new century will turn mountains for the good of Russia --- standing firmly on his feet and confidently looking into his future, the great fate of his children.


          And who told you that Putin and his government care about the people?
          Rates of monopolies are raised regularly - so that they get their rent, and we pay the annual price increase for housing and communal services. The excise taxes on gasoline increased - dumped on oil industry workers - in fact, the fees went to the budget - again, people paid.
          VAT will be raised - Again, people will pay. Raise the retirement age - who should work longer?
          It is time to stop believing in the good king, disinterested ministers.
    2. +4
      4 August 2018 11: 56
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      The successes of the USSR in industrialization and the development of the far corners of our homeland are impressive. But was it really impossible to do without the labor of slaves?

      Slavery in the USSR? Seriously ?
    3. +1
      4 August 2018 18: 56
      was it really impossible to do without the labor of slaves?
      - did you read the article or what? where is it said about slaves? sort of written about the decent earnings of prisoners and the lack of a convoy ...
  6. +6
    4 August 2018 09: 12
    Quote: Vard
    There are so many Russian blood on the Latvian arrows ... Ka there ... I would have hung him dead ...

    SW bloodthirsty am smile Ward! Then half the world will have to be cleaned up, on whose paws the blood of the Russian is to the elbow ... Is the nervous system strong for this matter of the immense? recourse Maybe the better is the smaller, the better? Look - the Czechs ... They took, but leveled in 1918 about a third (out of 11 thousand) Ivaschenkov (now - the hero-city of Chapaevsk). Not looking - you baby or ancient grandfather. Easy! And no questions to them, to the so-called. Slav brothers from the word "slaves" ...
  7. +2
    4 August 2018 09: 39
    I received from the archive a case of repression against my grandfather. There are the same fantasies. One of them - the parents had two horses and four cows. Considering that 10 years (or more) have passed since then, the conclusion of the figures from the NKVD can only be surprised. And megalomania too - information about the combat readiness of the Poltava garrison. In general, for the enemies (not well-wishers) of the USSR, who received education, apartments and official position. Just wondering. Maybe you should refuse all this? Will you turn your bare, bare and cows tails? But the Communists, Latvians, other internationalists will interfere with your life. But you will be free and independent. Within the pasture. And there will be no time to show your stupidity on the Internet.
  8. +2
    4 August 2018 09: 41
    Quote: lambert
    Olgovich (Andrey) Today, 07: 02 ↑ New
    Quote: Reptiloid
    I'm sorry about Berzin
    All the main events in the life of this subject (including his "achievements" in Kolyma, the "disclosure" of Zagora Lokkart, etc.) are indicated in the SENTENCE OF THE COURT of the USSR to this enemy of the people, a traitor and a spy:
    SENTENCE
    In the name of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, Military Collegium of the Supreme Court of the USSR
    Mountains Moscow.
    In the composition:
    Presiding: the coronoyurist Matulevich,
    Members: Ivlev, a divorcerer,
    brigvoyenurista Romanicheva.
    Under the Secretary: a military officer of the 1st rank Kosciuszko.
    In a closed court in Moscow
    August 1, 1938, examined the case on charges of: Berzin Eduard Petrovich, b. 1893-58b, 1-58, 7-58, 8-58 and 9-58 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR.
    A preliminary and judicial investigation established that Berzin since 1918 was an active participant in the anti-Soviet nationalist organization and, on instructions from an enemy of the Peters people, systematically supplied British intelligence with spyware. Created in 1921 in the special unit of the Cheka, the nationalist Latvian group of British intelligence and terror against the leaders of the CPSU (b) and the Soviet government. On instructions from the enemies of the people, Rudzutak and Bokiya systematically supplied German intelligence with spy materials about the USSR and the activities of the anti-Soviet underground. On the instructions of German intelligence, he created at Vishkhimzavod, where he was the director, a sabotage organization to decommission plants during the war. In 1931, he established contact with anti-Soviet activities with the enemy of the people Yagoda, joined the anti-Soviet organization of the right, created a counter-revolutionary sabotage and rebel organization in Kolyma and supplied Japanese intelligence with spyware about Kolyma.
    He personally prepared a terrorist act against Comrade Yezhov.
    Thus, the guilt of Berzin in committing the crimes under Art. 58–1b, 58–7, 58–8, 58–9, and 58–11 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR, and, guided by Articles 319 and 320 of the Criminal Procedure Code of the RSFSR, the Military Collegium of the USSR Supreme Court
    SENTENCED:
    Eduard Petrovich Berzin to be deprived of his military rank - the “dividend” and to be subjected to capital punishment - to execution with confiscation of property. The verdict is final and, by virtue of a resolution of the Central Executive Committee of the USSR of 1 / XII — 34, is subject to immediate execution.
    Presiding: coronoyurist Matulevich
    Members: Dividendurer Ievlev,
    brigvoyenurist Romanovychev.
    Secretary: 1st rank military officer Kosciuszko
    REFERENCE
    The verdict on the execution of Berzin Eduard Petrovich carried out in the mountains. Moscow 1.VIII.1938. The Act on the enforcement of the sentence is stored in the Special Archive of the 1st Special Department of the NKVD of the USSR, Volume No. 3, Sheet No. 235.
    The beginning 12 departments of 1 special department of the NKVD of the USSR
    state security lieutenant Shevelev
    40 minutes after the verdict and spanked. Very quickly: you see, the enemy was still one, judging by the company of traitors: Peters, Rudzutak, Bokiya, Yagoda ....


    I received from the archive a case of repression against my grandfather. There are the same fantasies. One of them - the parents had two horses and four cows. Considering that 10 years (or more) have passed since then, the conclusion of the figures from the NKVD can only be surprised. And megalomania too - information about the combat readiness of the Poltava garrison. In general, for the enemies (not well-wishers) of the USSR, who received education, apartments and official position. Just wondering. Maybe you should refuse all this? Will you turn your bare, bare and cows tails? But the Communists, Latvians, other internationalists will not interfere with your life. But you will be free and independent. Within the pasture. And there will be no time to show your stupidity on the Internet.

    But the reason is simple - who will be the head of the school. And who will live in a two-room apartment with parquet.

    Reply Quote Complaint lambert
    1. +5
      4 August 2018 10: 12
      Quote: lambert
      that received education, apartments and official position. Just wondering. Maybe you should refuse all this? Will you turn your bare, bare and cows tails?

      What are you carrying? belay They didn’t receive, but our parents and grandfathers EARNED — these apartments and education for children — and more than once, living from hand to mouth and working day and night all their lives and getting beggarly wages.
      The apartment, by the way, gave up in social recruitment by the state, not by ownership.
      And a man naked came into this world and naked, leaving almost nothing to the children - and left.
      1. +4
        4 August 2018 10: 45
        Quote: Olgovich
        What are you carrying? They didn’t receive, but our parents and grandfathers EARNED — these apartments and education for children — and more than once, living from hand to mouth and working day and night all their lives and getting beggarly wages.
        The apartment, by the way, was rented out in social rent by the state, and not into property.
        And a man naked came into this world and naked, leaving almost nothing to the children - and left.

        Thank you for the post, and many have the impression that in Soviet times, people only did that they received gifts from the state. The Soviet people didn’t get anything for nothing, sometimes you don’t understand either hard labor or something else on our earth.
        1. +2
          4 August 2018 10: 57
          Quote: Jura
          people only did that they received gifts from the state. The Soviet people did not get anything for no reason

          Moreover, I’ll say: if SO, as they worked in the Union, they worked in the West, then they would have mansions and cars there and would leave a lot of things for the children.
        2. +6
          4 August 2018 16: 36
          Quote: Jura
          .... The Soviet people did not get anything for no reason, sometimes you don’t understand labor, either hard labor or something else, on our land.
          The post-Soviet man doesn’t get anything for nothing, but unlike the Soviet one he should always be afraid of any “scammers” and frauds. If the Soviet got on the cooperative line, then sooner or later he got an apartment. And if the post-Soviet contributed funds to shared construction on the zero cycle, then it’s not a fact that it will receive ..... These deceived equity holders are suing to no avail ....
          1. +2
            4 August 2018 17: 32
            Quote: Reptiloid
            The post-Soviet man doesn’t get anything for nothing, but unlike the Soviet one he should always be afraid of any “scammers” and frauds.

            I agree, I do not mind, this is quite a lot and there is something to talk about, and not only, but we should not forget about how it was, so as not to repeat what was done. The best of what was not to forget and save, the worst was not to forget, too, to reject.
            1. +5
              4 August 2018 18: 23
              Quote: Jura
              ...... The best of what was not to forget and save, the worst is also not to forget to reject.
              Probably the best is either already destroyed or is being diligently destroyed ..... Or it is forgotten through lies and misinformation.
              1. +1
                4 August 2018 19: 51
                Quote: Reptiloid
                Probably the best is either already destroyed or is being diligently destroyed ..... Or it is forgotten through lies and misinformation.

                If this happens, then some people like me will get angry, and most of them will be about those who are behind the arms of the tractor, who hold the welding holder in their hands, who spend days behind the wheel, behind the machine, it will be a disaster. I know for myself what I am capable of, scary and sickening myself.
          2. +4
            4 August 2018 18: 27
            Quote: Reptiloid
            ... suing these deceived equity holders to no avail ....

            Forgot !!!! It is very difficult to get the status of a deceived equity holder! This is, as it were, the next level and get ----- we must try.
            1. +1
              4 August 2018 19: 44
              Quote: Reptiloid
              It is very difficult to get the status of a deceived equity holder!

              I heard about this, this status gives some kind of ghostly hope for the return of funds to get housing at least partially or in a completed building. Sometimes several owners claim one apartment, gloom.
          3. 0
            5 August 2018 10: 35
            Quote: Reptiloid
            The post-Soviet man doesn’t get anything for nothing, but unlike the Soviet one he should always be afraid any "scam" and fraud.

            The SOVIET film "Family-Based Circumstances" -there is said to you about the BLACK housing market in a funny form, but the fact itself is important.
            And there were in that very CRIMINAL market and fraud and kidalovo (and you won’t go to court, they’ll put you in prison for fraud with state housing), and the most humiliating fake "weddings" then "divorces", "adoptions", "guardianships", a wild struggle for registration, richly flavored with bribes and frauds. Disgusting and extremely humiliating for citizens
            1. +4
              5 August 2018 13: 34
              And there were various violations of the law at all times in all countries. So what? There were thieves, bandits, scammers, many other lawbreakers that the authorities of all countries fought with. However, you yourself wrote that the links to x / f are wrong, (in other words) In fact, ---- who got in the queue for the cooperative received it. There was no precedent for the loss of money for the legal queue. Yes, they could have been removed from the queue if the ratio of meters changed. But ---- they did not lose money.
              A registration --- what a fight? Everyone had a residence permit. Get sick again
              1. +1
                5 August 2018 16: 33
                Quote: Reptiloid
                And there were various violations of the law at all times in all countries. So what? There were thieves, bandits, scammers, many other lawbreakers that they fought with authorities of all countries.

                The "authorities of all countries" lol There were NOT such crimes with housing as they were in the USSR, because there were no “registers” and such a volume of state housing on which a whole bunch of crooks parasitized.
                Quote: Reptiloid
                In fact ---- who stood in line for a cooperative, he received it. There was no precedent for the loss of money for the legal queue. Yes, they could have been removed from the queue if the ratio of meters changed. But ---- they did not lose money.

                Cooperativeminuscule in the volume of the housing, remember
                Quote: Reptiloid
                A registration --- what a fight? Everyone had a residence permit. Get sick again

                Get hurt again! lol О residence registration with the goal of-queuing for housingIt’s possible to write criminal poems too, to select housing, to secure housing, poems. "Divorces", "weddings", "guardians", "adoptions", "sick", etc.: haven't you even heard?
                You are in the USSR, it turns out, and did not live at all: in the 60s, 70s, 80: you were still a kid. This humiliating person for you, through and through the corrupt criminal sphere, has not touched you
                1. +4
                  5 August 2018 20: 38
                  Guardians, adoptions, sick ---- these are your fantasies. Adoptions are possible that now, that then - only if there is already housing, and not in the case of ghostly hopes or promises. There was such a multi-step procedure, in everyday life ---- "" go through the rono ".. I see --- you don’t know. You didn’t live in the USSR !!!! However, in the Russian Federation! What happened? Married, but not maliciously, but the relatives simply didn’t interfere with the young people, as well as children, as soon as possible, in order to get on the line early. So what? Are children always born? area and there were different restrictions against scams.
                  Fictitiously married only in the case of a prison for 100 %% preservation. And what if I'm small in the USSR? There were no such horrors! I know the story of my family, not one generation, or acquaintances!
                  That you did not live in the USSR! An essential part of life was hostels, departmental rooms, office apartments. !!!!! And you are not a word about it !!!!!! Or you don’t know the difference at all !!! To one degree or another, everyone went through it, We burned !!!!
                  1. 0
                    6 August 2018 09: 07
                    Quote: Reptiloid
                    Guardians, adoptions, sick ---- these are your fantasies.

                    This is true that life.
                    Quote: Reptiloid
                    Adoptions are possible, now, what then ----only if there is already a living spaceand not in the case of ghostly hopes or promises.

                    You don’t know anything at all: according to the law, the adopted, like other relatives of the first stage, were required to register, regardless of the number of meters. But they were not always prescribed, they were waiting for a bribe.
                    Quote: Reptiloid
                    What happened? They married, but not maliciously, but simply did not interfere with the relatives of the young. As well, and as soon as possible kids, to get on line early. So what? Are children always born? .

                    lol You are ridiculous: fictitious marriages and divorces for registration, queues for an ordinary business, known to me in many copies.
                    If now they put children off to the square ---- then the opposite was true. They knew ---- they will give birth to children will receive an area. And there were different restrictions against scams

                    Yes, yes: that's why giving birth in the USSR-ceased-since 1964-the extinction. The entire area "received" fool
                    Quote: Reptiloid
                    And what if I'm small in the USSR? There were no such horrors! I know the story of my family, not one generation, or acquaintances!

                    There was no horror. There was a huge shadow housing business.
                    Quote: Reptiloid
                    That you did not live in the USSR! An essential part of life was hostels, departmental rooms, office apartments. !!!!! And you are not a word about it !!!!!! Or you don’t know the difference at all !!! To one degree or another, everyone went through it, We burned !!!!

                    We did not talk about this. And what else was there?
                    And in the USSR I lived under Khrushchev.
                    1. +4
                      6 August 2018 12: 14
                      Well, of course, you know everything about fraud with the area! Especially slander and obgazhenie, because there are no facts. OBS. And there can be no links. And I will explain to you. In our city --- depending on the place of work, this is what it was ---- 5 or 10 years in the hostel when working at that enterprise ---- That's it! Permanent registration. And then the options are different ---- a room in a communal apartment and a queue for an apartment, departmental or office space. Or a queue for a cooperative. They were not only in the Administration, but also in enterprises! And you didn’t know. And no fraud! All according to the regulations!
                      And how is it that under Khrushchev ---- x / f and the stories are complete. I’m with old-age people at work, their stories are very different from yours.
                      1. +3
                        6 August 2018 15: 49
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        .....All! Permanent registration. And then the options are different ---- a room in a communal apartment and a queue for an apartment, departmental or office space. Or a queue for a cooperative. They were not only in the Administration, but also in enterprises! And you didn’t know. And no fraud! Everything according to the rules! I.

                        Of course, we are talking about people who used to be called the "limit."
                        But the same conditions were applied for nonresident students who, after distribution, had the opportunity to stay in Leningrad.
                        Or, on the contrary, we came to Leningrad or the Leningrad Region. According to the distribution from universities of other cities of the country. That's what!!!!!!
                      2. +1
                        7 August 2018 09: 25
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        Well, of course, you know everything about fraud with the area! Especially slander and obgazhenie, because there are no facts. OBS. And there can be no links.

                        Everyone knows who lived then. Do not want to know, your right, you live in a fictional, NEVER "paradise" that does not exist in reality.
                        WHAT links do you give to my relatives, acquaintances, who DID it all in kind and who came across all this (including me)? fool
                    2. +2
                      7 August 2018 13: 34
                      Olgovich! I am amazed and intrigued! Please tell us about you! Do not be afraid! Here are all mine! And know ---- if someone gave birth to 3 children to advance the line ----- I do not consider it criminal! Also, I do not consider it criminal if someone registered for the old woman and looked after her. OR who lived in a hostel and gave birth to a child for the sake of the queue !!!!! Or who from the village got married to the city. This, in my understanding, is not a crime. By the way, after all in post-Soviet times ---- marriages with foreigners. And ----- nothing, no one stigmatizes.
                      I want to know the real UHOSSSS !!!!!
                      1. 0
                        7 August 2018 14: 34
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        Olgovich! I am amazed and intrigued! Please tell us about you! Do not be afraid! Here are all mine!

                        belay
                        I have already mentioned:
                        fake "weddings" then "divorces", "adoptions", "guardianship"
                        for writing and posting to the queue. How many times to repeat ?!
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        And know ---- if someone gave birth to 3 children to advance the line ----- I do not consider it criminal!

                        What is the 3rd child, what are you talking about ?! fool Extinction since 1964, and remember, finally!
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        Or who from the village got married to the city.

                        Again, not in Russian .... request
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        This, in my understanding, is not a crime.

                        What I listed was a CRIME, as well as "black" surcharges / fees for exchanges, registration, etc.
                2. +1
                  7 August 2018 08: 38
                  I re-read your comments. I did not watch the film, but if you invented horrors on the basis of humor, then fakes are fabricated at all times. You see, any crimes always happen for one purpose, you didn’t mention it in this case ---- you didn’t live in the USSR, so you took a short course at the direction of your bosses!
                  1. 0
                    7 August 2018 14: 37
                    Quote: Reptiloid
                    . I didn’t watch the film, but if you invented horrors on the basis of humor, then fakes are fabricated at all times.

                    belay Comrade, then you are not our man at all, but a Western spy lol : EVERY person in the USSR and Russia watched this film!
                    Quote: Reptiloid
                    You see, any crime always happens for one goals

                    ABOUT MONEY I said MILLION times!
                    1. +1
                      9 August 2018 04: 19
                      Quote: Olgovich
                      belay Comrade, then you are not our man at all, but a Western spy lol : EVERY person in the USSR and Russia watched this film !!
                      This is a very funny comment.
                      1. 0
                        9 August 2018 08: 14
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        belay Comrade, then you are not our man at all, but a Western spy lol : EVERY person in the USSR and Russia watched this film !!
                        This is a very funny comment.

                        This is again the TRUTH: EVERYONE knows this film. Except you! belay
                      2. +2
                        9 August 2018 20: 26
                        Well, yes, yes, the privatization of 1993 has become and equated to 0000 all these intrigues.
                        But did the parents lead all the children, even newborns, to watch this film? For children and young people, these residence permissions are not giving a damn. Other laws are already in force. However, since you didn’t specifically write anything about yourself, you didn’t do anything like that, although it’s obvious that you made plans. So you need to throw this training manual away.
  9. +3
    4 August 2018 09: 44
    M-dya. Lazarchuk, "Hyperborean Plague"
    That’s why I don’t like the Bolsheviks - except Khasanovna and Che Guevara - because they stupidly dragged out such a colossal enthusiasm of all this learned public. Indeed, without any scumbags for the same bread and water - just let it go! - one would create and discover that Mars would become the seventeenth republic long ago, and the States - a large maize farm with jazz amateur performances. Yes guys, and whatever jazz it is! ..
    1. +1
      4 August 2018 09: 57
      A good novel, I really, "Look into the eyes of monsters" more like it.
  10. +2
    4 August 2018 11: 02
    Quote: Olgovich
    Quote: lambert
    that received education, apartments and official position. Just wondering. Maybe you should refuse all this? Will you turn your bare, bare and cows tails?

    What are you carrying? belay They didn’t receive, but our parents and grandfathers EARNED — these apartments and education for children — and more than once, living from hand to mouth and working day and night all their lives and getting beggarly wages.
    The apartment, by the way, gave up in social recruitment by the state, not by ownership.
    And a man naked came into this world and naked, leaving almost nothing to the children - and left.


    Well, come naked, giving up everything that you received under the Communists. Or is it a pity? It’s easiest to water mud. And to sing songs about unfulfilled dreams? Or did you have something, before the revolution, that you were taken away and painfully painful that you can’t get back? Then this is the clinic. But don’t worry, at age 65 we’ll all go to the cemetery. And your dreams will cease to exist.


    About social hiring - did you come up with it yourself? This term appeared after 1991.
    1. +4
      4 August 2018 12: 30
      Quote: lambert
      About social hiring - did you come up with it yourself?

      Tell me about the ownership of housing in Soviet times, it’s very interesting what you come up with
      1. +5
        4 August 2018 16: 28
        Quote: Puncher
        Tell me about the ownership of housing in Soviet times, it’s very interesting what you come up with
        What who thinks up ---- I do not know. However, for sure, there were cooperative apartments for which they paid, such as a mortgage now, the conditions were clearly different. These apartments were the property and it was possible to inherit them. But what the state gave for free ---- it was impossible to bequeath. However, during exchanges, it so happened that from the cooperative they could get into the state. housing and vice versa. Since long exchange chains were built, the main thing is who has the goals of these exchanges.
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          5 August 2018 13: 59
          There were private houses.
    2. +5
      4 August 2018 13: 20
      Quote: lambert
      Well, come naked, giving up all that You received under the communists. Or is it a pity?

      I EARNED and did NOT receive anything. Just like my parents-EARNED, like my grandfather, a peasant working for 80 years on a collective farm from dawn to dawn, without receiving practical money-earned. And they earned much more than they "received."
      Quote: lambert
      About social hiring - did you come up with it yourself? This term appeared after 1991.

      . You don’t even know? Apartments in the USSR were provided under a rental agreement) concluded with by the owner of the living quarters - by the STATE. .
      .
      By the way, hand over your privatized apartment and cottage to the municipal (state) property. Do as it was during the USSR, show an example! lol
  11. +1
    4 August 2018 11: 48
    Quote: Nikolay S.
    These Berzinov countless. This one is Edward. Reinhold from the People's Commissariat. Jan - 2pcs., One - intelligence officer, the other - a diplomat. And they all turned out to be spies, they all banged at 38-39 meters. We would sit on our farms.

    So Livonia is small and it was crowded on the farms
  12. +1
    4 August 2018 12: 15
    As in the crow flock there is a “white crow” and so here: there were “comrades” Dybenko, Raskolnikov, Peters, Latsis, they became more famous as executioners or lovers of “beautiful living,” and here a decent person.
    It is significant that Gasoline cared about ordinary people, and Dybenko got drunk and: "I changed women like gloves:" ("Straw hat")
  13. +2
    4 August 2018 12: 20
    Already sad, Zyryanka, Kolyma, Yasachnaya ... Yasachnaya warms up a little in the summer and you can swim in it, but Kolyma is chilling, but the input is very clean, you can drink without any danger. In the lower reaches beyond Chersky there was the village of Mikhalkino; there was an old pier and flooded wooden barges from those times. There were practically no traces of the camps, behind Zyryanka on the hill there was the rest of the hut collapsed and that was it. Even upstream from Zyryanka, there were traces of the Kolyma tract, a wide clearing along which the zk was driven in winter, local people said there were human bones. The camp in Zyryanka itself was also there, but they say they didn’t particularly guard it, nowhere to run.
  14. +1
    4 August 2018 14: 05
    “The family is not without a freak.” More precisely, “The ugly duckling.” Not everyone in power was bloodthirsty. Or a traitor to the motherland and people! Great-grandfather was found in 31-32 with a hole from a bullet of a jealous man in the head. He was the director of the enterprise, he went he didn’t return for a salary for the workers. The first is the enemy of the people on the wanted list. Outside the city, everyone who was accompanied by the carrier in the car killed, without money. OGPU still suspected a traitor. hi
  15. +5
    4 August 2018 15: 21
    Then he could not imagine that in 1932 his life would change dramatically. His unreasonably arrested and sentenced to imprisonment in forced labor camps of the Far North.

    That's just about the innocent convicted is not necessary. Around 1979-80 (I definitely don’t remember one but “from”, there was the father of my friend) in our village of Chingissa, two drivers were imprisoned for 2 years. A trifle, they brought grain from under a combine harvester, in a village in the nearest yard we dropped two barrels for a bottle, a liter of wood of 100 wheat each. The neighbor saw it running up, though vermouth instead of a little white suggested! The carriers agreed, loaded him with grains. So this bastard stukanul (the party pensioner was offended, they squander the people, drove them, they took the grain from the whole village, the informer explained that he could be shone for buying stolen goods, though everyone in the village believed that the driver was innocently injured, they to people with all my soul. fellow
    Second example. In 2004, on March 8 corporate party, my wife and her three other colleges near the cafe pressed digital (MY) gold (everyone had plenty), mobile phones, in general, by the little things, as it turned out after ours, he’s also from the district police wife jerked and took the cell phone. Well, the bottom line is that they took him a couple of days later, he served his time, three years ago in the garage I help a gum neighbor on the front suspension change the drink, of course, the neighboring company swells and talks. I liked the phrase, -And then I generally put for what? After all, I didn’t take pensions from grandmothers, I took gold from wealthy, from military wives, from rich men, and I was soldered for 6 years. That damn Robin Hood loser, a local spill. I can still have many similar stories about INNOCENTLY CONDEMNED, well, or there is nothing to bring about the convicted. Yes, a simple question, and who read the case of the same Alexander Fedorovich Gudimenko? What was he sewed there? But many people reading about the "lawlessness" of 1937 do not even think about what happened at that time. I’m even sure that most of them simply didn’t read the Code of Criminal Procedure and the Criminal Code of that time, they all shout as a first-calf about the famous 58th article, and who knows from the screaming when this article was canceled? Only in 1961 is it possible that Gagarin should not be credited with an attempt to escape from his homeland.
    58-1c. In the event of a flight or flight of a soldier abroad ...
    laughing laughing
  16. +2
    4 August 2018 17: 43
    Here I am wondering; the leadership (center-headquarters) of the RVS were both Poles (Dzerzhinsky, Medzhinsky ...) and the Baltic states (Peters, and here you have Berzin) and a huge number of Jews (and Trotsky-Bronstein and Sverdlov and ..) yes x- and all sorts of different Zuckermans (I am silent about people of Caucasian nationality) but ... For some reason, modern Labuses and Ukrainians in the company of other Lyakhs present the main account for the Occupation and the Holodomor accompanying them, for some reason, to us Russian ?? No, well, there’s no paradox ?? So roll out the shows of Israel and the Baltic states and Pshekam, and where do the Russians. And here you have another one oh lat 'and what .. to pity him, here you are ... Sabake dog death. How many Russian men, faithful oaths of officers, monks and just those' who are not with us' were ERASED to camp dust or executed in the basements of the Cheka yes Schaub this labus on a frying pan hot yes without oil in Hell for a little hotter ..
  17. +3
    4 August 2018 18: 45
    Quote: Olgovich
    Quote: lambert
    Well, come naked, giving up all that You received under the communists. Or is it a pity?

    I EARNED and did NOT receive anything. Just like my parents-EARNED, like my grandfather, a peasant working for 80 years on a collective farm from dawn to dawn, without receiving practical money-earned. And they earned much more than they "received."
    Quote: lambert
    About social hiring - did you come up with it yourself? This term appeared after 1991.

    . You don’t even know? Apartments in the USSR were provided under a rental agreement) concluded with by the owner of the living quarters - by the STATE. .
    .
    By the way, hand over your privatized apartment and cottage to the municipal (state) property. Do as it was during the USSR, show an example! lol


    I knew this from the very beginning. And you can see just now read and immediately began to dodge. Once again, I kindly ask you to figure out when social hiring arose and only after that start singing songs. This is the first.

    Tell me your former cooperative apartment, if you did not receive it, but earned it? And when. Probably from the damned Soviet communist government? Or how did you buy a millionaire?

    And the last, our poor and earned, my apartment is NOT PRIVATIZED at all. Are stereotypes completely destroyed, or how?
    1. +4
      4 August 2018 19: 44
      Quote: lambert
      ....... Once again I urge you to sort it out when ......?
      Yes, probably, not only you convincingly ask for it! The authorities do not ask Olgovich, but orders to understand. But it’s hard for him to understand something .... He didn’t live in the USSR, although he talks about it .... There wouldn’t be any punctures then. Here you are hurt too. But we will not explain the subtleties to him. Why inform him? Let the authorities send him to the educational program at his expense.
      Or, now, I did not understand the Soviet banner famously, before.
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    4 August 2018 18: 46
    If you compare with the work of the current rulers https://regnum.ru/news/2455975.html?utm_medium=re
    ferral & utm_source = infox.sg & utm_campaign = e
    xchange
    that comparison is clearly not in favor of modern ones. Or so it seems only to me?
  19. 0
    4 August 2018 18: 51
    Quote: Puncher
    Quote: lambert
    About social hiring - did you come up with it yourself?

    Tell me about the ownership of housing in Soviet times, it’s very interesting what you come up with


    Apparently you don’t even know what you are asking. Ownership of housing as such was not (in the cities), even the cooperative was not property.
  20. +3
    4 August 2018 18: 52
    Quote: WapentakeLokki
    Here I am wondering; the leadership (center-headquarters) of the RVS were both Poles (Dzerzhinsky, Medzhinsky ...) and the Baltic states (Peters, and here you have Berzin) and a huge number of Jews (and Trotsky-Bronstein and Sverdlov and ..) yes x- and all sorts of different Zuckermans (I am silent about people of Caucasian nationality) but ... For some reason, modern Labuses and Ukrainians in the company of other Lyakhs present the main account for the Occupation and the Holodomor accompanying them, for some reason, to us Russian ?? No, well, there’s no paradox ?? So roll out the shows of Israel and the Baltic states and Pshekam, and where do the Russians. And here you have another one oh lat 'and what .. to pity him, here you are ... Sabake dog death. How many Russian men, faithful oaths of officers, monks and just those' who are not with us' were ERASED to camp dust or executed in the basements of the Cheka yes Schaub this labus on a frying pan hot yes without oil in Hell for a little hotter ..


    Another patient. Read Solzhenitsyn.
    1. 0
      4 August 2018 19: 41
      But no. I tried but .. didn’t master it. It’s too boring .. yes, and then I liked the Strugatsky and Golovachev more. And about the “sick” one, look in the mirror, yeah, there it is.
  21. +3
    4 August 2018 23: 50
    Quote: Olgovich
    No party in the world has ever gathered under its wing such a number of traitors, spies and enemies of the people (as the state called them). If you know examples, tell me.

    Example: United Russia
  22. +1
    5 August 2018 21: 02
    Quote: WapentakeLokki
    But no. I tried but .. didn’t master it. It’s too boring .. yes, and then I liked the Strugatsky and Golovachev more. And about the “sick” one, look in the mirror, yeah, there it is.


    According to your advice, I looked in the mirror, I saw nothing. But once again I read your posts and still asked you to turn to a psychiatrist. If a person believes that some peoples are worse, and some are better, then this is already a disease. Some craps, other armor, and some others. So sort it out.
  23. +2
    7 August 2018 15: 49
    Olgovich !! And what about --- do not get married, do not get divorced? What nonsense. What are you - holding candles. Who is fictitious --- who is not? And to myself ---- nothing at all !!!!! But the humor of socialism is incomprehensible to me. But cartoons and Murzilka ---- class I even bought a Digest Murzilka for 1924 ---- 1945.
    With a capital lock of 10m a room in a communal apartment is settled by 20Ktians and then their neighbors survive ---- any of your fantasies can be compared with this. Or vice versa ---- rent a room, and then the owners ---- bred. This is modernity, not your fictional horror movies.
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    26 September 2018 01: 57
    Nikolay S. August 4, 2018 07:46
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    These Berzinov countless. This one is Edward. Reinhold from the People's Commissariat. Jan - 2pcs., One - intelligence officer, the other - a diplomat. And they all turned out to be spies, they all banged at 38-39 meters. We would sit on our farms.
    ////////////////////////////////////////////////// ////////////////
    In the post-war period, the KGB caught one spy every twenty years.
    In 1937-38. the special officers were no match for them, in two years they "discovered, caught and themselves eliminated" more spies than the population of the whole of Finland.

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