Laughter through tears. How many pensioners added pensions

Another "great" news came to us today from the Pension Fund of Russia, and it concerns working pensioners. As the press service of the Pension Fund reports, from today, i.e. 1 August 2018, working retirees will get more. The maximum increase to the pension, after recalculation, taking into account the paid contributions, will be about 235 rubles.

According to the press service of the PFR, the maximum increase in the pension of pensioners working in 2017 will be three pension balls, which is equal to 235 ruble 74 kopecks in terms of money. On average across Russia, according to the calculations of the PFR, the increase will be about 170 rubles. In addition, the FIU mentioned that last year at the expense of recalculation, pensions rose from 11,8 to a million recipients of insurance pensions.

According to the Pension Fund of Russia, the insurance pension is calculated on the basis of retirement points, recalculation takes place for all working pensioners who receive an old-age or disability insurance pension, while the increase is calculated individually for each pensioner and depends on the contributions paid. The more the working pensioner makes contributions to the Pension Fund, the higher will be its increase.

We remind you that the recalculation of insurance pensions for working pensioners occurs once a year and is August 1. Recalculation is made automatically, to visit the Pension Fund for this is not required.

Comments

[DEDPIHTO]

Thanks breadwinners Well, you’ll definitely be left without pensions, but you can still miss something .. creatures.

[SRC P-15]

According to the press service of the Pension Fund, from today, i.e. August 1, 2018, working pensioners will receive more.

I propose to make August 1 "April Fool's Day" instead of April 1! As the saying goes: "Laughter through tears."

[asar]

Yes, it seems like soon every day will be Laughing Day!

[Greg Miller]

May 8 should be considered the day of laughter, the day of the inauguration of the main "servant" of the people ...

[Leeds]

You can’t spend everything right away ...

[SRC P-15]

Finally, on our street, working pensioners, a holiday !!! And then everything is idle, but idle ...

[Yuyuka]

Quote: SRC P-15

Finally, on our street, working pensioners, a holiday !!! And then everything is idle, but idle ...

happy early, grabbers (working pensioners)! All is not enough for you! Not for everyone, but only for those who have insurance points
The upcoming increase in pension will be purely individual in nature - the increase will occur not by a fixed percentage, but depending on official activities and contributions paid from it.

This year, the maximum increase that working pensioners can count on will be three points or 235,74 rubles. According to experts, the average premium in Russia will amount to 164 rubles.

To receive the allowance you do not need to fill out any applications - it will be calculated automatically.

tears of gratitude right before our eyes - no need to go and write, everything is automatic ... here it is a significant result of "digitalization".

And also about “you” who will not calm down and try to make a fortune by working and receiving a pension. No indexation of pension in the new pension reform (read - scam) is not provided for you! And then you go, leeches, stuck to a skinny retirement body!

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: Leeds

You can’t spend everything right away ...

You can’t spend it all right away.

[Cheldon]

I immediately remembered Lenya Golubkov:
-Leonya! And where will you spend the money?
- I’ll buy boots for my wife!

[DEDPIHTO]

You can’t spend everything right away ...

Times seem to be approaching harsh and I have already figured out how to correctly invest the whole lordly "increase" 170r average ,, increase ,, just enough for a pack ..

[Titsen]

Quote: DEPHIHTO

You can’t spend everything right away ...

Times seem to be approaching harsh and I have already figured out how to correctly invest the whole lordly "increase" 170r average ,, increase ,, just enough for a pack ..

Not enough: 13₽ * 20pcs. = 260₽

Only half a pack!

[Sergey ippon]

Che is not novosib?
Barnaul normal happens?

[NordUral]

And in the afternoon du_ra_ka - 18 of March.

[tap]

It would not be bad ... But it is ridiculous on this day only the so-called. "elite", and persons close to the emperor.

[reservist]

Quote: zapfen

But this day is ridiculous ...

[USSR-1]

To deputies too it is not sweet. The official pension of the State Duma deputy begins at 72 rubles. After the salary that they are paid for visiting the State Duma, falling 000 times is sad. We must publicly collect in the pension fund of "former deputies" 10 p. It will not drop from us, but the servants are pleased. They think about us often. Or sometimes, but they think ...

[Misha Honest]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

As the saying goes: "Laughter through tears"

It was so, so it is and always will be so!

Be glorious, our free Fatherland,
The brotherly peoples of the union age-old,
Ancestors given wisdom of the people!
Be glorious, country! We are proud of you!
(Rather sarcasm)

[Greg Miller]

... and do not deny yourself anything ....

[A good one]

It only remains for pensioners to seamlessly switch to the red light of a traffic light and swim behind the buoys on the beach.

[rocket757]

And we have August, and so the funniest month, if you recall the past events!
I’m curious, but pensioners also voted for their father’s father and for all that gang-watering that "cares" about them .... one, two, I know for sure, can anyone tell me how much he knows personally?

[NordUral]

Among my friends, the couple voted, as I did not convince them to vote for Grudinin. I don’t know anymore. now they are something not very happy with their choice. Why would this be?
The rest were either persuaded to vote for Grudinin, or there was no need to convince.
But it is necessary to convince the people that the next "guarantor" or the same one, would not completely destroy the country.

[uskrabut]

Quote: rocket757

can someone tell me how much he knows personally?

Yes, the vast majority voted for GDP, "he is so good."

[NordUral]

Yes, she "voted" by the fact that they did not appear at the polls and thereby gave their votes to Ellochka Pamfilova, an honest woman. And she already skillfully disposed of your laziness and couch protest. And on trifles I did not hesitate to pry votes that voted for Grudinin, Zhirinovsky and others (there were numerous videos on this subject).

[rocket757]

uskrabut (Nikolai) Today, 09:39
Yes, the vast majority voted for GDP, "he is so good."

At my soulmate voted so, I could not convince!
But now, she counted the number of years before retirement and began to express herself completely different definitions!
That would be so, a few months ago!
In short, the fun went!

[Citizen 90]

But what's the difference, to replace the ballot and say that only your vote was against, or to prove to the person who had not a single acquaintance who went to the polls that the turnout was 100500%? That one nonsense that does not deceive an adequate person, that the second.

[kuz363]

Democracy is good because the minority must obey the opinion of the majority. If the majority of Vova’s population is satisfied, then everything is correct. Bear with another 6 years. And then extend his authority further.

[kakvastam]

Yeah.
"She drowned." And immediately it became clear that Mr. Big Jolly.

[Weyland]

Quote: Not bad

seamlessly switch to the red light of a traffic light and swim behind the buoys on the beach.

Well what are you! They and other benefits are full: to stand under the load and the arrow of a crane, climb on the poles of power lines, lean against the automatic doors of the subway and electric trains ...

[tap]

There is already money! You can no longer hold on! Senior citizens, do not hold yourself! Spend plenty.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: DEPHIHTO

Thanks breadwinners Well, you’ll definitely be left without pensions, but you can still miss something .. creatures.

It would be interesting to read the statistics on full payments to deputies and ministers in all regions of Russia. How many and how many do they rake?

[NordUral]

It is better to demand data on their property and enterprises, then no one will remember their "salaries".
We just need to think - and who owns everything in the country - not for us?

[MPN]

Quote: NordUral

It is better to demand data on their property and enterprises, then no one will remember their "salaries".

They ask the deputy (prosecutor, judge, minister, to taste): - Aren't you ashamed that your mother-in-law at eighty-seven years old has your family, rides you in his jeeps, gave you one of his cottages, manages the oil and construction company, and you, healthy man, sit here all day and shift the papers !!!

[NordUral]

It’s a shame - they did not pass this. In all senses.

[siberalt]

Pension reform has already been called the genocide of the Russian people. On TV, its discussion is prohibited, a referendum will also be banned. Joseph Kiselev will continue to zombie society by box. The people are tired of lying and have lost faith in our government. The government signed its powerlessness and the ability to create a domestic economy and implement the development of production. The anti-people Constitution is inviolable for keeping the state in colonial dependence. For the authorities, there is only one hope - perhaps something will change in world politics. And apart from continuing to plunder the most helpless and dependent part of the population in order to maintain power, they do nothing else.

[sabakina]

Interestingly, in those old years, E. Primakov did everything exactly the opposite, that he advised the IMF, and we got out.

[uskrabut]

Quote: sabakina

E. Primakov did everything exactly the opposite, which was advised by the IMF, and we got out.

That is why it was devoured.

[NordUral]

So Primakov worked for Russia, unlike these.

[tap]

Have the people lost faith? Why? He believed for 18 years, but 4 months have passed since March - and lost?

[kakvastam]

You will be surprised, but insight usually comes instantly, you can just wait for it indefinitely.

[Citizen 90]

Yes, no one believed. They voted for him at best, so that there would be no revolution. The opposition needs a distinct. I am not a politician. I don’t know how to create it, the existing “oppositionists” are simply grabbers who weren’t allowed to enter the trough and are furious. Bulk great expose? Even without him, I know and see from the life of the "servants" that they are stealing. 2 + 2 = 99999 - Income and expenses do not agree, the fact that all the relatives of those in power are becoming “successful entrepreneurs” also makes it clear HOW everything is done with us.

Really believe units. Just the election - visibility - does not affect the result absolutely.

ps And I am really surprised by people who think that if everyone goes and votes against (I have only one (!) Woman voted for him from friends), then there will be less than 70%

[NordUral]

You may not have time to see clearly. And discard the skates, continuing to believe.

[kakvastam]

Of course.
But the transition from adoration to hatred, if it occurs, usually does not take much time.

[Qwertyarion]

No, the number with the zombie is no longer relevant! The guys managed to lose their positive electorate overnight, they won’t come back!
What slogans did the deputies of United Russia gather for the election? Something like "UNDERSTAND AND FORGIVE" !!!?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: DEPHIHTO

Thanks breadwinners Well, you’ll definitely be left without pensions, but you can still miss something .. creatures.

I fully share your indignation. Himself - a pensioner, though - non-working - hypertension, not only work, does not allow life. But I'm not talking about that.
Not so long ago I was crucified here on the site because I did not overthrow the hated regime on the outskirts. And if I don’t overthrow, it means I support this mode. I tried to explain - there is no leader capable of uniting a divided people and leading in the right direction.
Now, with good reason, I can also ask you, everyone accusing me of inaction, to ask - why didn’t you rebel? You have leaders, and organized meetings, but not everyone came to them. Why? Why didn't the whole people rise?
I am not calling for anything, I am asking questions in order to show you that a people, without an organizing principle, is a herd. What is in Russia, what is in Ukraine. And blaming him for this is stupid and pointless.

[Cube123]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

hypertension, not only work, does not give life.

Try for a while completely! discard table salt. It helped me. The severity of crises has declined sharply.

[kakvastam]

Totally agree with you.
Moreover, a person refusing to fight under pressure from an overwhelming force, in order to maintain self-esteem, performs post-rationalization, proving to himself (and if he enters the network, then to those around him) that “nothing will work out”, “otherwise it will be worse”, or even "that's right."
So there will be no mass performances.

[V. Demon]

There is no Russian people !! They knocked everyone out in 100 years and drank it. The population remains. The population is the population. What to ask the wretched.

[barclay]

Quote: DEPHIHTO

Thanks breadwinners Well, you’ll definitely be left without pensions, but you can still miss something .. creatures.

Well, the "breadwinners" then with their frantic salaries of pensions is now and then useless. During their hectic working life, they can form such amounts on their deposits that they can calmly and happily live on the interest from them for the rest of their lives, and even the heirs will.
So this is all natural, because these "breadwinners" live in a different dimension and are very far from ordinary people.
And here also the statistics assent with its data about the allegedly "free money" among the people, etc.

[Uncle lee]

235 rubles 74 kopecks

I will buy a suit with an ebb, a tape recorder and in Yalta ....

[Severok]

My mother, Murmansk, 2015, retirement 17 tr.
Today, my mother, also Murmansk, pension 17 tr, the question is - where did they add ???

[The Siberian barber]

Government "holds firm" the word!
Promises, fulfills!
I congratulate all pensioners on the “increase”
Now, you can have fun, as much as 200r.
... mockery, in sophisticated form

[Greg Miller]

Open mockery of the people becomes fashionable among his "servants" ....

[NordUral]

Once we allow, so why not mock them with a good smile gentleman. There is a guarantor, like a copper basin shines. Shod the people and a happy woman.

[tap]

Well do not tell. 200 rubles to a pensioner is not enough. And if you multiply by millions of pensioners? What amount of heart have to tear.

[Cube123]

Quote: Siberian barber

Government "holds firm" the word!
Promises, fulfills!
I congratulate all pensioners on the “increase”
Now, you can have fun, as much as 200r.
... mockery, in sophisticated form

Here in my opinion you laugh in vain. From the point of view of a normally earning man, yes, 200 rubles - this is not money. And from the point of view of a pensioner who does not have enough money from pension to pension, 200 p. - This is an opportunity to live an extra day a month. I tell you as a pensioner. Everything in this world is relative.

[sabakina]

This is if you are a relatively healthy senior citizen and you do not need to buy expensive medications. I will tell you as the son of a senior citizen with a chronic disease. Yesterday I bought my mother "Mexidol", 400 pe with a tail.

[Cube123]

Quote: sabakina

This is if you are a relatively healthy senior citizen and you do not need to buy expensive medications. I will tell you as the son of a senior citizen with a chronic disease. Yesterday I bought my mother "Mexidol", 400 pe with a tail.

Your example does not refute mine. On a supplement you can eat one day a month - that's a fact.

And my mother receives medicines for chronic diseases every month for free. At one time, she refused monetary compensation, and she was right.

That is not the problem. Inflation will eat this supplement in a few months.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: sabakina

This is if you are a relatively healthy senior citizen and you do not need to buy expensive medications. I will tell you as the son of a senior citizen with a chronic disease. Yesterday I bought my mother "Mexidol", 400 pe with a tail.

In June, he lay in Kiev in the scientific center of radiation medicine, in the department of radiation cardiology for 1,5 weeks. I bought all medicines, droppers, etc. myself. All this "pleasure" cost me 4,5 thousand hohlobaksov with a pension of 3 thousand. (3 thousand = pension + allowance for studies in the liquor. Last accident at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant + allowance for special services to Ukraine. The merits are still Soviet. Otherwise, you’ll think about something like that.)
So, to our brother retired, everywhere is "fun"

[reservist]

Quote: Vol4ara

give 200r, and take 5 years for 10 tons per month.

generally not 10, but 000 on average, and not all 13, some 700 years

[NordUral]

By your logic - do we need everyone (senior citizens) to become in a thank-you position?

[Yuyuka]

Quote: NordUral

By your logic - do we need everyone (senior citizens) to become in a thank-you position?

as? lower??

[bukhash]

No, you have to go to the barricades, make a mess and then reap the fruits of the battle. I’m tired of working as a pensioner and whining, they whine and whine, remember the bourgeois with their millions, gobble envy. wake up!

[Borisovich]

Suitcase collected. I'm sitting wondering where to go to relax. I still can’t decide. Bahamas? Seychelles? Tahiti .....
Or well, her figs this abroad ?????????????

[alekc75]

only Kamchatka, just 200r !!

[siberalt]

Working retirees froze indexation. In recent years, they have already lost hundreds of thousands of wooden. This is an obvious robbery! The Yeltsin-Gaidar affair lives and thrives.

[sabakina]

So right now at school, holidays ...

[uskrabut]

Quote: alekc75

only Kamchatka, just 200r !!

and the road? not a ride, only a garden - the best place to relax Russian!

[tap]

"... and a free ticket.
- to Siberia! "

[spektr9]

"... and a free ticket.
- to Siberia! "

No in Siberia, rest is by no means free

[uskrabut]

Quote: Borisovich

Suitcase collected. I'm sitting wondering where to go to relax.

Judging by the increase, you are not tired.

[Borisovich]

Quote: uskrabut

Judging by the increase, you are not tired.

How not tired if maximum earned? AND? Already whole three points.
By the way, it’s time to rename these points, maybe in workdays .......

[Yuyuka]

Quote: Borisovich

Suitcase collected. I'm sitting wondering where to go to relax. I still can’t decide. Bahamas? Seychelles? Tahiti .....
Or well, her figs this abroad ?????????????

when a dream comes true, you need to come up with a new one, but not everyone succeeds and then the meaning of life is lost
you are lucky ... there is so much "sense" and "dream" - there is something to live for and judging by the level of dreams - you still have many long years to live

[Borisovich]

Quote: Yuyuka

so much "meaning" and "dream"

Yes Yes. As I recall, Araks sang.
"Dreams come true and DO NOT come true ............."
And if they, well, these very dreams, do not come true, then what is the point in this dream ????????
So your conclusion about long years of life is very controversial ........

[Yuyuka]

Quote: Borisovich

Quote: Yuyuka

so much "meaning" and "dream"

Yes Yes. As I recall, Araks sang.
"Dreams come true and DO NOT come true ............."
And if they, well, these very dreams, do not come true, then what is the point in this dream ????????
So your conclusion about long years of life is very controversial ........

chose the most sane conclusion ... other conclusions can only be voiced by the Great and Mighty ... obscene ...

[Borisovich]

Quote: Yuyuka

chose the most sane conclusion ...

Here I am about the same. Uttered a few phrases

Great and Mighty

and decided, well, I’ll go to all these Seychelles with Bahamas and Tahitians, I’d better go to the garden. You understand that day in the summer feeds ........

[Altona]

For such an increase, I would like to thank only obscene language with the mention of all the relatives of the "benefactors".

[Yuyuka]

how talc sang

We would thank everyone:
with a thresher - a collective farmer, a worker - with a key,
The enemy of the people is with a pick, the prosthesis is an Afghan,
Well, I used to light someone with a brick

[Separ]

It’s enough for liverwurst sausage for 1.5 kg, to divide into slices for 30 days - we will not die ..

[A good one]

Eh, the liverwurst sausage used to be, especially, in addition to the snack, it went well with the onion in pies, and now rubber is rubber. If divided by 28-30-31 parts, it will keep its shape well.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Not bad

Ah, there used to be liverwurst sausage, but now rubber is rubber. If divided by 28-30-31 parts, it will keep its shape well.

Thought for lunch for a piece of this, and soon the repairs will have to be done in the meeting room and in the offices - the doors will change, otherwise they won’t pass!

[tap]

"Yes, we all have good faces." There are plenty of thin people. And row in galleys for seven.

[Separ]

And toilets to expand identically ... as all rush to yell - I will not save

[Yuyuka]

Quote: Separ

It’s enough for liverwurst sausage for 1.5 kg, to divide into slices for 30 days - we will not die ..

and in February, as I understand it, finally a holiday!

[asar]

I don’t know how to deal with this "wealth" ?!

[Opera]

Yes, why are you so excited then ?! Swear and fool around! If you, DEDPIHTO, SRC, Greg, a barber, Borisovich, Alton are working pensioners and you do not need these 235 rubles every month, just give them to the really needy every month. Go to any temple and give out! People will wish you good health in return. So they say, God bless you, good man!

[SRC P-15]

Quote: Oper

Yes, why are you so excited then ?! Swear and fool around! If you, DEDPIHTO, SRC, Greg, a barber, Borisovich, Alton are working pensioners and you do not need these 235 rubles every month, just give them to the really needy every month.

Are we supposed to laugh for free? We, working pensioners, are used to doing everything for money!

[Opera]

Alexander, you don’t pay attention to me. For some reason I didn’t doubt what kind of Christ you are you won’t do anything for nothing. That's me ... And suddenly you really go and feed some needy one. After all, there are those who are not funny!

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Oper

Alexander, you don’t pay attention to me. For some reason I didn’t doubt what kind of Christ you are you won’t do anything for nothing. That's me ... And suddenly you really go and feed some needy one. After all, there are those who are not funny!

It’s not necessary to feed me, and so
of course have. I’m up to retirement, like to cancer in Kiev, but also not funny. And the further, the not funnier. Why? Yes, because, in the foreseeable future, there are no prospects in the country. You can tell, on the basis of what indicators and what trends do you think that everything is going well?

[Opera]

It is very good that you do not need to be fed. It’s very good that you yourself earn a living. Very good, so there is an opportunity to earn. How can I answer your question? You have no prospects in this country? I have. I work. I earn. I provide a family. I help parents. I pay taxes. I see the fruits of my labor. It has always been important to me. It’s also important for me to live in a strong Russia. Christian. I live in it! After all, it depends on what prospects you see ?! I see them in strengthening the Power. In our historical roots. The deeper the roots, the taller the tree! The stronger the country, the better people live in it! And here I just suggested laughing, that if for you this money is not funny ie roles do not play - give and help those who will be happy about it! When a person sincerely helps, he himself experiences a feeling of satisfaction. Is it bad?

[Leshy1975]

Gkj

Quote: Oper

It is very good that you do not need to be fed. It’s very good that you yourself earn a living. Very good, so there is an opportunity to earn. How can I answer your question? You have no prospects in this country? I have. I work. I earn. I provide a family. I help parents. I pay taxes. I see the fruits of my labor. It has always been important to me. It’s also important for me to live in a strong Russia. Christian. I live in it! After all, it depends on what prospects you see ?! I see them in strengthening the Power. In our historical roots. The deeper the roots, the taller the tree! The stronger the country, the better people live in it! And here I just suggested laughing, that if for you this money is not funny ie roles do not play - give and help those who will be happy about it! When a person sincerely helps, he himself experiences a feeling of satisfaction. Is it bad?

The fact that you brought your vision of life, of course, there is nothing wrong with this. But what I couldn’t cite on the basis of what indicators and trends, in this case I’m speaking for the country as a whole, I think that everything is good, already and not quite good. I will explain. You personally can feel confident in life today. I personally can too. But these private feelings do not negate the negative macro-indicators and trends in the country as a whole. And if such negative trends nevertheless lead to a crisis in the country, then it is unlikely that you personally, as well as a certain number of other citizens, will be able to live, as you write, in a strong Russia. It simply may not become, not just strong, but Russia in general. Then you write: "The stronger the country, the better people live in it!" Well, I’m exactly about this and ask, on the basis of which macro-indicators (not personal feelings) can you conclude that people live and will live better? Because if the answer to this question is that you simply believe in it and that's it. So write it, because in matters of faith, discussion is meaningless. If under this there are objective indicators, and I base my dissatisfaction with the authorities and the country's course on this, then give them. We will substantively discuss with you, and believe me, after analyzing macro-indicators, the grounds for your confidence will greatly decrease. Do not consider me trying to troll you, or offend you with something. I am impressed by your experience for the country, I am worried. And so, to find out who these experiences are based on objective data, and who on the subjective, it would be useful.

[Opera]

They try to troll me here regularly. This is useless and I don’t think so about you. You can, of course, ban it! Well, it already happened too!) And watch this with my thoughts and visions that happen here regularly, believe me! As for the macro indicators, they are so simple with me. I am 50 years old. Tell me, when did I have the opportunity at a conscious age to feel that I live in a great and strong country? Now! You ask me exactly? So I’m responsible for myself. I’m in the sovereign’s service and for the first time in my life I don’t have to think about where I can earn extra money or earn extra money! I can safely go to the right-wing temple and they will not throw me sidelong glances! I can safely baptize children and grandchildren. Read what I want and most importantly have such an opportunity! I get paid on time the money earned for which I can support my wife and a foster child. My children are already adults and provide for themselves. My parents receive pensions on time and live on them. I try to help them, and they are grandchildren! I see a strong Russian army. I often communicate with the military and see their confidence in themselves, the army and the state! And this is not only due to high salaries this feeling of strength. Over the past 5 years, we have turned our cottage with our pensioner into a capital house in which we live almost all year round. This is not an elite village, but the usual SNT near Moscow. Around the same strong houses. The same houses in Yaroslavka when I go to Moscow to work. I see the same strong houses and households in other areas of the country where I often go on business trips. Temples are being built everywhere and people are going to the temples. We have enough problems, but here is what I told you and there is a trend and macro indicators. In the 90s and early 2000s, Russians fled from all the "fraternal" republics. I saw it with my own eyes. And now fraternal comrades working as janitors are going to feed our families from these republics. And these are also our macro indicators. Here they like to give an example of how many factories and enterprises were closed in the post-communist years, it’s bad, who argues ?! But here I somehow gave an example of how much was opened and how much was reconstructed ... Everyone pretended not to notice! And these are macro indicators. And the most important macro-indicator is an independent foreign policy! Russia just needs 100 years, even without wars and revolutions, and not only Russia will change, but the world around it!

[Opera]

About any country in the world from Honduras to the USA, if you set a goal, you can say so many nasty things that no forum is enough! It’s right to start, in the USA they live on credit, and in Russia they are on their own! This is, after all, a matter of just the set goal and attitude! Positive trends, those who have lived in our country from the mid-80s to the mid-2000s can not see! Another thing is if you certainly decided to build a paradise on earth! Then, of course, you will always have trouble with macroeconomic indicators! Paradise on earth is never built NEVER! We must strive for a normal human life based on Christian Orthodox morality. Brick by brick ...

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Oper

As for the macro indicators, they are so simple with me.

I’m really glad for you personally (because I don’t have any reasons for treating you badly). But unfortunately, the examples you cited relate mainly only to you personally. And the situation in the country needs to be assessed by macroeconomic and social indicators. So, unfortunately, the discussion did not work out. Anyway.

[Opera]

And I tell you about life, not about indicators!) Indicators are generally a crafty thing, because they often exist completely apart from real life! Is not it so? The country has been living in sanctions for more than a year! Indicators? You know, when in 2010 I went to Latvia to take my wife and renounce my citizenship (my wife refused), and in Riga and Dvinsk I was amazed at the number of beggars on the streets! Real beggars, not crazy about shops! I was also amazed at how people sold cigarettes individually, as we did in the 90s, but I was most surprised at how people there took up any work because it wasn’t at all and several families lived together on the farm, and apartments and rented their houses for rent, so as not to be taken away! They were returning through Lithuania, and there the streets were just empty ... The people fled! These are macro indicators !!! With us, I’m not observing anything like this! No, goofs on the spot at the shops! And I'm not saying that everything is fine and wonderful with us. And now our pensioners are, after all, children of the war as well! In general, they have little in life that they have seen good and starved and worked all their lives. Here for them we must try to do more. These people should live with dignity!
But only the state must be protected! Not one revolution in the world has led to a better life, but just the opposite!

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Oper

And I tell you about life, not about indicators!

Igor, the fact is that such an approach is called subjective opinion. And I don’t have anything against your personal opinion. Because as for me personally it is different and we have equal rights. But subjective opinion cannot give an overall picture. For this, there are macro indicators, here they are much more objective. And our whole discussion has led to the fact that defending the current government, you are ready to rely only on personal opinion and feelings. That there is a direct path to erroneous conclusions. And it is precisely the errors that have not been eliminated in time, and will not allow saving the country. My criticism of power is based precisely on indicators that I take from different sources, but they certainly are not my subjective assessments. Yes, as a result of their analysis, I, too, am subject to subjective judgment. But here there are much fewer errors, because I initially analyze a more correct and more complete picture. And with this approach, trends in the state are clearly visible. Now, if the state was only- you personally and that's it. And everything suits you, then such a state can exist as long as you like, while it suits you personally. But since this cannot be, the majority opinion in this case is much more important and indicative. And since the discontent of the masses with the state is growing, then regardless of your opinion and desire (and mine too), the state becomes unstable. And here you just need to understand that the state itself is in conflict with its own population and begins to lose its support. Without any ratings, this is good or bad. The system of interests of the state and society is out of balance. And here, either eliminating errors in time, or coming to a new balance through a conflict of interests and a crisis. What in society is manifested through the confrontation of the population and the authorities in various forms. I do not specifically evaluate whether this is good or bad. Since the final result can be both such and such, and from whose point of view to look, winners or losers. But these are objective processes. The balance of interests of the authorities and the population in the state must be respected, then stability. Now there is a very noticeable shift towards the interests of the authorities.
Maybe it was not quite intelligible that I could express my thought to you. But if you use this text and reason (without emotions, without any attachment to white and red) precisely over the macro-indicators in the country, you will also understand the source of the population’s irritation by the authorities. And understand the trend. And now you can evaluate the trend itself, from your point of view, is it good for you or bad. But the trend itself, a personal assessment, will not be canceled.

[V. Demon]

Let's rearrange "The richer the people live, the stronger the power"
I somehow like it better!

[tap]

You shouldn’t be so. In raising the pension, for example, some see great prospects.

[Giants]

Quote: Leshy1975

not funny. And the farther the funnier

Want to laugh?
Rosavtodor proposed building a four-lane expressway on the site of a serpentine from the village of Dzhubga in the Tuapse district to the city of Sochi. According to preliminary estimates, its cost will amount to 1,2 trillion rubles. The length of the route will be about 120 kilometers. There is money and it is necessary to put it somewhere. So? So. After all, it’s not for pensioners to give them away.

[NordUral]

You, Igor, do not portray Christ from yourself here. With a proposal to share with those in need, turn to the Duma or the oligarchs. Found someone to reproach and insult.

[RaptorF22]

Better deputies lower their salaries to minimum pensioners

[tap]

Correctly. If there is money only for a loaf of bread, but you don’t get enough of it, go and give it to the starving.

[Yuyuka]

Quote: Oper

Yes, why are you so excited then ?! Swear and fool around! If you, DEDPIHTO, SRC, Greg, a barber, Borisovich, Alton are working pensioners and you do not need these 235 rubles every month, just give them to the really needy every month. Go to any temple and give out! People will wish you good health in return. So they say, God bless you, good man!

and to them (working) for which thanks ?? because they are simple intermediaries between the PF and those in need!

[Altona]

Quote: Oper

Altona working retirees

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I'm not a senior citizen yet. Retired mother, father and sister. And what to do with the increase, if any, they will understand without your stupid advice.

[Opera]

And I didn’t advise your relatives! They didn’t write anything here! And curse did not intend to swear. And is it really stupid to give unnecessary money to people who will be very happy about it?

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Oper

And I didn’t advise your relatives! They didn’t write anything here! And curse did not intend to swear. And is it really stupid to give unnecessary money to people who will be very happy about it?

Yes, a long time ago, an ordinary resident has NO unnecessary money. And the pensioner and even more so, even working. Do you really seriously think that they don’t know what to do?

[Opera]

Goblin, read the comments above! And do not distort what I wrote. I still do not think that working and non-working pensioners have authorized you to speak on their behalf! Here, as you can see, laughing, most of them are not pensioners at all! Not a senior citizen and you! But my parents, uncles, aunts, including pensioners from among my wife’s relatives. They don’t flaunt, but even from bread to water they do not interrupt from the word at all! They also help children and grandchildren. Yes, here it is! Of course, I would like them to receive more. Every normal person wants this. Well, exaggerating and being pissed off is also not beautiful.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Oper

Goblin, read the comments above! And do not distort what I wrote. I still do not think that working and non-working pensioners have authorized you to speak on their behalf! Here, as you can see, laughing, most of them are not pensioners at all! Not a senior citizen and you! But my parents, uncles, aunts, including pensioners from among my wife’s relatives. They don’t flaunt, but even from bread to water they do not interrupt from the word at all! They also help children and grandchildren. Yes, here it is! Of course, I would like them to receive more. Every normal person wants this. Well, exaggerating and being pissed off is also not beautiful.

No one is stingy. And I am sincerely happy for you personally and your relatives. But the country is not only you and your relatives. You then look at the numbers, since we are talking about pensioners: (source PensiyaPortal.ru)

Table 2. The lowest average pension in the Russian Federation, rubles. per month

Region Region Amount of average pension minimum pensioner
Saratov
Volga Federal District 10300 5420
Tambov Central Federal District 10300 4802
Volgograd Southern Federal District 10223 6114
Bryansk Central Federal District 10208 5648
Orenburg Volga Federal District 10157 6070
Voronezh Central Federal District 10053 6039
Krasnodar Territory Southern Federal District 10037 6312
Kaliningrad Northwestern Federal District 9448 6354

Have you looked? Now answer, if you personally give up as many as 10300, and suppose that you have no relatives or are not able to help, how will you last a whole month? And yet, you write: “do not exaggerate,” which means to exaggerate, not to know the measure. Pay attention to the figures of the living wage of pensioners, take for example the Saratov region. - 5420rub. Let me remind you what the PM is. The concept of "subsistence level of a non-working pensioner" includes all expenses for collateral survival and basic needs. Here is a list of expense items that the minimum should offset:
◾ Food (this is an essential part of the minimum amount): vegetables and fruits, cereals and potatoes, meat, milk, eggs and other products. The cost of food sufficient to maintain the normal functioning of all body systems is called a food basket.
◾ Non-food products: clothing and footwear, stationery and some other groups.
◾ Costs for medication and treatment.
◾ Travel costs in public transport.
◾Payment of utilities.
Is in your opinion the amount of 5420 rubles. sufficient to satisfy the listed items of expenditure. Or is this state exaggerating the physical capabilities of pensioners when it operates with such numbers. And in the end. You often emphasize that you worry about the country. So what country are you worried about? Or are the above areas and categories of people not among those you care about? Or maybe everything is much simpler. Just like our government, you are an ordinary cynic and a disgrace. And you do not care at all, if it is not you personally and your relatives? And then what do you care about the country? If all your arguments, only me, me, me, me, me, me.
PS I'm going on the trail. week on the Volga fishing in the Astrakhan region. I invite you with me. With your own eyes, look at life in those parts of the countryside - POVERTY, no money, no work. Communicate with the locals, together we will discuss kindly around the fire. Maybe then you will understand what the country means and worry about it. Well, or explain to me.

[tap]

Indeed! Arranged here. Thank you to the dear government! They gave 200 rubles, but they could have sent them on ... th.

[spektr9]

And is it really stupid to give unnecessary money to people who will be very happy about it?

Well, show by your own example, at the same time our oligarchy is moving, but no, is it easier to drown mother in such topics for power?

[Opera]

Don’t worry about me. And no one is forcing you to personally help, your business! I just told those who laughed and foolishly on the topic of supplements for working pensioners — if you are pensioners and you do not need this money, help them in need. And here you suddenly got so nervous ... These are ordinary Orthodox concepts and I didn’t bring any background to it! No one is forcing you to personally help. Don't drag me to church! This is why everything enrages you! Live as you want! And I don’t need to poke, you show your bad manners!

[spektr9]

Don’t worry about me

I’m not worried about you ....

I just told those who laughed and foolishly on the topic of supplements for working pensioners

Did you say something to the deputies who took these holy fools? No i don't see

Don't drag me to church! This is why everything enrages you!

I am furious like you .... who are trying to justify the mockery of the authorities over our citizens

[Opera]

Well, see you switched. Already good. I didn’t say a word about power! A small supplement, but it is a supplement. Starting next year, pensioners of 1000 will be added. And this is good. You tell me about the aligarchs ... Even if once again taking all the money and sharing it nationwide does not improve the situation. Although of course with Grudinin you and your comrades in struggle can already begin to understand! Here I agree, the communist moneybags is just some kind of nonsense !!! We must fight not for the rich in the country, but for the poor! For social elevators affordable and social programs! For the development of the institute of charity, including in the fields of education and culture. For the dictatorship of law and order in the country. Gorlopanit slogans with an armored car is a very simple thing, dear comrade and listeners, which of course there are always none.

[spektr9]

Well, see you switched. Already good

Ok let's get back to you

Starting next year, pensioners of 1000 will be added.

What a lot of money, not just 400 rubles for indexing now, now 600 rubles increase now, we’ll heal

You tell me about aligarchs ... Even if once again taking all the money and sharing it nationwide does not improve the situation

Of course, for them and the litter of their defenders it will not suit, but the people will arrange

We must fight not for the rich in the country, but for the poor!

It is necessary to fight so that there wouldn’t be any nits in the country who are trying to leave on the humps of others and their wages are paid

with Grudinin

Of course, it’s nonsense, the chief himself demanded him for the election, otherwise suddenly the people would send him, but then there are replacements from the Edra ....

Gorlopanit slogans with an armored car is a very simple thing, dear comrade and listeners, which of course there are never any

Don’t be afraid, the slogans will come, and then the oligarchs will go to the expense and their retinue

[Opera]

And you are afraid not to respect yourself! “Expense” is the key expression for you in these categories you think. I have no doubt that having seized power in the expense you will send people easily and simply. That's just your time has passed. And it will be troublesome for you now with expenses!
Do not restrain yourself, comrade revolutionary! Write more and more frankly. Oddly enough, this is to some extent a useful thing - let people honor the future with the expenses of the rich, very rich, wealthy people, maybe just not in need of their retinue, and the retirees will probably just include the civil servants you have prepared ... People to sort of by expense Who are you going to the camp yourself?
Thank God that now our people have the opportunity to learn a lot from similar events that have occurred in our country since 1917! Then, as you put it, so many people were let into the expense, that the country still will not recover! Millions just fled the country! And now your time is up, revolutionary! Troublesome business in present-day Russia is to let people go. I sincerely advise not even trying!

[NordUral]

Stupidity is your words, if not meanness.

[Demon_is_ada]

Oh Igor like you’re right, but like ... I respect Yeshua very much, but "the road to hell is paved with good intentions ..."

Quote: Oper

And is it really stupid to give unnecessary money to people who will be very happy about it?

Those who really need them are unlikely to be happy, but they will take them (I mean the true followers of Yeshua) ... But who really will be happy with the money, so open Forbes and behold ...
Therefore, I think you simply incorrectly formulated the message - hand it out to those in need more acutely than you ... Why is everything so bad with us ... Because there are a lot of pseudo-Christians, that's just your wording ... And they give their money for any bullshit, promises and etc ... although it was said - by cases behold them ...
Well, what about everything is absolutely beautiful in our kingdom You can really get hurt, you can live, as it happens even worse and much ... all is well beautiful marquise ...

[Altona]

Quote: asar

I don’t know how to deal with this "wealth" ?!

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Once on a merry-go-round ride in a park.

[koksalek]

But the servants of the people and their servants simply don’t know where to put the money, they already beat super-expensive cars easily and they throw the money on the streets. They urgently need fresh ideas on how to spend money, what to do with them

[Million]

Medvedev was probably categorically against the increase: why do pensioners need such a lot of money !?

[Million]

Something local trolls are silent ..

[afrikanez]

Loved oneself 75% of the salary, and the people scores. It’s unsophisticated, without depriving themselves and forgetting that the whole country is “hunching” at them, they threw all ordinary people to the fullest ....

[Stalnov I.P.]

We bow low to them, you are our breadwinners, we will soon die from such handouts. In 2014 - 2015, wages were doubled for stupid, mediocre thieves. Soon, green papers that you really love will climb out of your ass. Ugh on you, stinky dogs.

[Anatole Klim]

I remember one story when a pensioner from the Tomsk region sent an increase to his pension in the amount of 60 rubles. to Moscow Medvedev with the postscript "Village-Capital. Hangover." At the same time, I paid 73 rubles for the transfer. At the post office he was strongly persuaded not to do this, but his grandfather was stubborn and the translation was accepted. A week later, the transfer came back, the recipient refused to receive the money, while the grandfather issued a new invoice for the reverse transfer of another 73 rubles, apparently the government did not find 73 rubles to pay the return transfer. Grandfather turned out to be principled and did not receive money; it is unknown where they went.
"This is not the first time I have sent a mail order to Moscow. I sent Yeltsin, sent Putin, but at least they didn’t return them. I wrote to Putin at the beginning of the 124096s, after a similar allowance. At that time, they didn’t want to accept my text either, because I wrote:" Choke, su ... ". I had to rewrite to" From the bounty of the sincere Siberian people with greetings. "Yeltsin wrote:" Turn on your head, half-fool, the country and normal people follow you. "They also didn’t accept. The operator said:“ If I miss this text , I will remain without work. "They have their own internal instructions. We then head of mail long dispute he said. "No shit No operator will not accept, nor I will not permit!" I say: “Then let's think together.” They came up with: “It is necessary to find the opportunity to at least raise the benefits to the northerners normally.” Https://snob.ru/selected/entry/XNUMX

[gukoyan]

"the increase will be about 170 rubles."
Figase!
But the treasury will not go bankrupt ???
You see, the number of millionaires among pensioners is direct, the country is growing exponentially!)))
Now my grandmother will heal!
Will buy a villa and a Mercedes W222 S600 !!! I will not be indignant that there is not enough money for medicines and food!
Ah yes Putin, oh well done!

[gurzuf]

Mr. Medvedev! What, have you got the money?

[Strashila]

It is important here not how much the pension has been raised ... but how much the services will rise in price and prices will rise.

[NordUral]

To the point, Strashila! Although this is important.
But the most important thing is that as long as these in power and in the country the organized crime groups are chewing, covered by an anti-people’s paper called the Constitution, everything will be so. We think and think again. It's time to grow wiser, gentlemen, comrades!

[uskrabut]

“the maximum pension increase for the pensioners who worked in 2017 will be three pension balls, which in terms of money is equal to 235 rubles 74 kopecks”

Working pensioners are a shame for the state! A senior citizen is a person who has worked a certain length of service and has reached a certain age. This gives him the right to receive a decent person a pension, which should be enough for a full life, according to age. I am generally silent about the increase, prices are rising faster and in larger sizes.

[NordUral]

I agree with you, Nicholas, except in those cases when work is in the hunt for the pensioner himself, and not for the sake of his daily bread.
But all this is of another reality, real. And now we are lost in a certain curvature of time and space, where everything is the other way around.

[Vadim237]

Not all people want to retire, for some, work, the meaning of life, if work brings pleasure or a workaholic person doesn’t work.

[Mountain shooter]

With a black sheep ... Thank you for not being taken away ...

[3vs]

Analysis of hot topics of the summer-2018 with economist Mikhail Khazin.

[dgoncovch]

voted for Putin themselves to blame

[Berkut24]

Pensions will begin to grow when deputies and the government begin to receive the average pension in the country.

[Apollo]

Putin is more generous than ever.

[Revival]

Now Boris55 has popularly explained to you that Putin cannot change anything ... there is no authority at all. And this is all Medvedev and his thought

[Yuyuka]

Quote: SRC P-15

According to the press service of the Pension Fund, from today, i.e. August 1, 2018, working pensioners will receive more.

I propose to make August 1 "April Fool's Day" instead of April 1! As the saying goes: "Laughter through tears."

stop mocking at the “poor” PF! It is not in vain that they say that it is not a gift that is important, but its presence

[PValery53]

Pensioners count money with an accuracy of kopecks, and officials and various bonzes - with an accuracy of hundreds of thousands of rubles. Moreover, pensioners receive honestly earned money, and "bumps" - "astronomical amounts" drawn from the bulldozer.

[Vadim237]

How many officials and how many pensioners - a hundred times difference on this and the money is significantly different. Everyone earns as they can.

[PValery53]

Wow, the “logic”: to pay parasites crazy money only because they are 100 times less than honest people. Despite the fact that their usefulness in positions is in the negative area.

[Vadim237]

Parasites in the common people are full.

[Revival]

So their increases are a thousand times different! So more than cover the numbers

[sgr291158]

A solid increase, nothing to say. Spend immediately or leave for later.

[GEV67]

They knew who they voted for, now rejoice. Whole Chicken can be bought additionally! And then everyone scolds that you can’t survive until retirement, but if you survive but you survive, but the management really cares)))

[V. Demon]

Well done! How to vote, they run ahead of the engine, so now the engine in the ass and butts.

[The point]

Well, it's just some kind of holiday! Attraction of unprecedented generosity. Here are the benefactors!

[Sadko88]

Live long. Work hard. Throw bad habits. Including count on retirement and count other people's money. Take care of raising yourself and your children. It is never too late to improve your financial literacy and your loved ones. Take as a rule 10% of any income. They find bad habits, and there is one. A matter of priority. Everyone has the Internet. Everything is written about it there. And to love the Motherland, the family and God need selflessly. Learn to enjoy what you have and everything will be for you ...

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Sadko88

Live long. Work hard. Throw bad habits. Including count on retirement and count other people's money. Take care of raising yourself and your children. It is never too late to improve your financial literacy and your loved ones. Take as a rule 10% of any income. They find bad habits, and there is one. A matter of priority. Everyone has the Internet. Everything is written about it there. And to love the Motherland, the family and God need selflessly. Learn to enjoy what you have and everything will be for you ...

Have you tried haloperidol? And then you write such nonsense. Do not agree? Then decipher yourselves: "Take as a rule 10% of any income." The rest separately seems to be nothing, but everything in place, like an interconnected text, in relation to reality, is also nonsense.

[Revival]

When you watch how they deceived you and took 99% of your money and are counting them, you also suggest not to be indignant with the slogan. Well, this is their money.

[Sadko88]

Thank you, I do not get sick. Psychology needs to be changed consumer and take care of their own well-being. To retire penniless in your pocket is a tripping for the family and a complete lack of will. In order to have a happy old age you need to mature with the mind and bring up children correctly. I about it. Pull yourself together and count on yourself. Panic weak and helpless people. Or the opposition which does not care what kind of government initiative to criticize. How many do not do good for Russia, they will still be unhappy

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Sadko88

Thank you, I do not get sick. Psychology needs to be changed consumer and take care of their own well-being. To retire penniless in your pocket is a tripping for the family and a complete lack of will. In order to have a happy old age you need to mature with the mind and bring up children correctly. I about it. Pull yourself together and count on yourself. Panic weak and helpless people. Or the opposition which does not care what kind of government initiative to criticize. How many do not do good for Russia, they will still be unhappy

"How many do not do good to Russia, they will still be unhappy"
Here I read again, do you yourself even understand the meaning of what is written? The medications here are already powerless along the way, here a straitjacket is needed. Well, yes, everything is as always, as soon as the bosses and zaputintsy set forth "arguments", there is no sense, no logic, no conscience.

[Sadko88]

Since you express yourself, express yourself when there are no arguments at all. Here I am talking about such cadres from the opposition. They have at least a count on their head, as a spoiled record will lose the template criticism of power in any of its actions.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Sadko88

Since you express yourself, express yourself when there are no arguments at all. Here I am talking about such cadres from the opposition. They have at least a count on their head, as a spoiled record will lose the template criticism of power in any of its actions.

So you write clearly to everyone, and not only to you personally, and there will be a discussion. Do you yourself understand the meaning of your proposals? I quote:
"Take as a rule 10% of any income."
"How many do not do good to Russia, they will still be unhappy"
Chaos on paper, it is from chaos in the head.

[Demon_is_ada]

This is kremlebot a man but a robot, he has already cracked this nonsense here
Sadko88 (Senior) July 21, 2018 07:43 | President of the Russian Federation: If no changes are made, the pension system may burst

Quote: Sadko88

He said everything correctly. Not a popular solution but necessary. Citizens of Russia need to deal with financial hyamotism. Set aside 10% of any income. Do not drink alcohol or smoke. Take care of the family. Educate your children. And do not forget God. And you will have your own pension.

And Moget is an exhaustive intellectual the war of cars is not far off ...

[Revival]

And who then does not consider other people's money, or do deputies have their own money? And we have their money again, but we don’t have ours?

[V. Demon]

Especially god! Do not create an idol for yourself !!

[Eugene 1475]

Not funny, my mom was raised as much as 28 rubles this year! Just now they will not die of hunger! This is with a pension of 7800!

[Sadko88]

By the way, if there is reasonably not enough pension: Art. 87 SK of the Russian Federation. Obligations of adult children to maintain their parents ...

[Yngvar]

Thanks to the "benefactors"! Another August mushroom sucker for pensioners and not only went to the masses ...

[Zomanus]

The logic is one or fewer pensioners - it means more increase.
That is, as few people as possible should survive to receive a pension.
And it’s not difficult to do it: heal less, make more work,
give less to multiply.
Thatcher spoke about 15 lyamov economically justified population?
Well, that's about this figure and go, apparently.

[Romanenko]

As long as the government will stand ass to the population, nothing will change.
And in order for something to change, it’s necessary to attach this ass more than once!
Well-fed hungry does not understand.
Evil creators, evil and receive.

[bukhash]

I’m very starved? I sympathize. When you give the government a hat, you will immediately add another pension and live happily ever after.

[jncnfdybr]

Hooray! At last. And then everyone envied the unemployed. Now I will not, added .....)))

[Weyland]

As Sharapov said to Gorbatom: "Thank you, Dad, for your kindness, and for your generosity!"

[Adimius38]

okay so)) and many will be left without retirement for five years anyway))

[private person]

News # 1 of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation refused to hold a referendum on pension reform. Whoever doubted, but the hope of EP (**** robbers) ruled in my heart. And I really wanted to live to retirement.

[savage1976]

Damn, I hope pensioners will survive this, and not burst from overeating sausage.

[avia12005]

But these 235 rubles on the hands of the issue is not necessary! Don't give out a bottle of vodka to immediately remember yourself in the cemetery!

[solovald]

It will not be enough ... some pennies ... however, for victorious reports it is enough - millions have "benefited"! The scale, you can say!

[In h]

Duck for what they fought .. it's just those .. by age .. who in the 90s was eager for capitalism and screeched for the drunk .. they wanted capitalism .. got it. And freedom and now they all work for themselves .. they all got it. ..All this fuss with pensions certainly does not add power to the rating .. only you are to blame yourself .. someone doesn’t pay taxes for years .. someone doesn’t work at all .. and everyone asks for pension.

[Citizen 90]

Quote: Sadko88

Take as a rule 10% of any income.

Yeah, we’ll pay our own pension, we pay for medicine ourselves, study paid, minerals “it’s all for the military” (as if I don’t work in it and don’t see HOW everything is here), what do I pay taxes for?

[Saints]

The site is already at the time to call "Pension Review." It will be accurate and to the point. Soon this I understand the main theme of the site will be. Politico-military aspects recede into the background. And just do not say what the word politics is, so pensions can be discussed. This does not apply to the theme of the site. I am disappointed. And so already I come here less because of the dilution of normal news and historical articles with this.

[pormezan]

By voting for Putin, people voted for his foreign policy. None of those who voted for Putin expected such a betrayal of their own people. And, of course, now it’s the “Zaputins” who will be Putin’s most fierce opponents - he was the one who deceived them; those who did not vote for him did not believe him.

[Dzafdet]

The most interesting thing is that for those who retired before 2015, indexation is considered since the freezing of pensions. That is, they take a pension ball only for 2015 at a cost. And the number of points cannot be more than 3. And for those who work and wait for a pension, the number of points earned is reduced: each year the amount by which your earnings for the year is divided increases. He does not grow with you, which means you will earn less than pension points. And it may turn out that by the age of 65 you will not get the required number of points, or this number will be small. For example, with a salary of 32 rubles by years: 000-2015, 5,06-2016, 4,87-2017, 4,63-2018 .... Plus, they will increase the survival period. This year we were made 4,06 years old, you are 22 years old. Your pension will be divided for this period and voila! Again she will be small!