In the Ministry of Defense created a military-political management

The military-political department established in the defense ministry will help repel attempts by the West to discredit Russia and the Russian armed forces, reports RIA News Statement by the Head of the Federation Council Committee on Defense, Viktor Bondarev.

Western enemies are doing a lot to discredit the image of Russia and the Russian armed forces - Russia should give such attempts a fitting rebuff, create a healthy counterbalance. The military-political department of the Defense Ministry of Defense is important for ensuring national security, Bondarev noted.

He recalled that so far there was no structure that would closely engage in patriotic work among the military.

In the USSR, such a military-political structure was, and this tradition must be revived, said Bondarev.

According to him, now the level of patriotism among the military is very high, but geopolitics is giving Russia new challenges to which it should be ready, and today form a systematic approach to the issues of morality, ideology, and also to patriotic education.

The new structure was created on the basis of the Main Directorate for Work with the Personnel of the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation (established in 1992).

To appoint Colonel-General Andrei Kartapolov as Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation - Chief of the Main Military-Political Directorate of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, relieving him of his post,

says presidential decree.

Cartapolov was born in 1963 year in the GDR. In 1985, he graduated from the Moscow Higher Military School, in 1993 - the Academy. Frunze, in 2007 year - the Academy of the General Staff of the Armed Forces.

From 2008 to 2009, he served as chief of staff - first deputy army commander in the Moscow Military District. Then he commanded the 58 Army of the North Caucasus (later the Southern) Military District, was deputy commander of the wax of the Southern Military District, head of the Main Operational Directorate of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces. In November, 2015 was appointed commander of the ZVO troops.

Comments

[New Year day]

That’s CHAPTER XNUMX recreated. Everything goes in a circle. So the new EBN is ahead of us

[Logall]

Zampolity, with the return!
It is necessary to deal with the military-political agenda among the military personnel, but the main thing is not to go too far ... So that it wasn’t, as in the days of the USSR, that the political officer was the second person in the unit.

[bouncyhunter]

Hi Sasha !

Quote: Logall

Zampolity, with the return!

Komissarov forgot.

[Logall]

Greetings Paul!

Quote: bouncyhunter

Komissarov forgot.

Let the MO forget about them!
And what will be promoted? The strength of Russian weapons or party politics? If the party, then what? (It is known which - someone said in his head)

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Logall

Let the MO forget about them!

Given that the first commissars appeared in the United States in the 40s of the 19th century, it would not hurt to forget. But some of us like to borrow imported ...

[Vladimir 5]

Political management as a department of information warfare in times of hybrid clash is necessary. Only it should work in the right directions and not become a parasitic soap bubble, like the GLAVPUR ...

[Elephant]

They will propagandize that the enemy can be thrown by caps !?

[user]

And what will be promoted?

By the way, according to article 13 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, ideology is prohibited in our country. Again, it will be necessary to restore or re-profile some kind of university in the military-political direction, and then after the service (I mean military service, we can’t afford the full contract), you will need to receive a characterization from the political officer or whatever they call him, for further arrangement on citizen.

Doesn't this remind you of anything?

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: user

By the way, according to article 13 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, ideology is prohibited in our country

Speaking of birds: you that's about it, probably?

1. In the Russian Federation, ideological diversity is recognized. 2. No ideology can be established as state or mandatory. 3. In the Russian Federation, political diversity and multi-party system are recognized. 4. Public associations are equal before the law.

Source: http://constrf.ru/razdel-1/glava-1/st-13-krf

So, how to say ... this does not mean a ban on ideology. This means exactly what is written in the Constitution.
Careful is necessary, thoroughly ...

[user]

2. No ideology can be established as a state or mandatory.

And this is not a ban, or as we usually accuse the West of "double standards."

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: user

Isn't that a ban

This is a ban, On introducing a new analogue of Marxism-Leninism into circulation (if you know what it is, when it was, and why it’s good. If not, the Internet is there to help, I don’t subscribe to explain the alphabet).
This is not at all a ban on "ideology in general", as you wrote above.
Therefore, he said to you:

Quote: Golovan Jack

Careful is necessary, thoroughly ...

[Dull]

Quote: Golovan Jack

This is a ban, On introducing a new analogue of Marxism-Leninism into circulation (if you know what it is, when it was, and why it’s good. If not, the Internet is there to help, I don’t subscribe to explain the alphabet).

If the ban, then what will the new "commissars" do in the troops? Advocate a "United Russia" ideology at the expense of the budget? Maybe to magnify the King with a servant? "No money, but you hold on"?

[user]

Careful is necessary, thoroughly ...

But this verbiage I once heard from the political leaders. Therefore, your comment is simply demagogy summed up under double standards.

[AUL]

Quote: Logall

If the party, then what? (It is known which - someone said in his head)

Edro trying to saddle the army? Already not surprised ...

[Titsen]

Quote from AUL

Edro trying to saddle the army? Already not surprised ...

Not trying - already saddled!

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Titsen

Quote from AUL

Edro trying to saddle the army? Already not surprised ...

Not trying - already saddled!

And what, sorry, do you have to do with the army? Well, besides this one, essno:

Quote: Titsen

Go find me!
The military commissar has not yet found ...

[Dull]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Golovan Jack (Roman) Today, 07:20 ↑
Quote: Titsen
Quote from AUL
Edro trying to saddle the army? Already not surprised ...
Not trying - already saddled!
And what, sorry, do you have to do with the army? Well, besides this one, essno:

In the General Staff you rule!

Quote: Golovan Jack

And what, excuse me, do you have to do with the army? Well, besides this one, essno

And you?

[MPN]

He recalled that so far there was no structure that would closely engage in patriotic work among the military.

And what the hell was that then?

The new structure was created on the basis of the Main Directorate for Work with Personnel of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

Something is completely enticed ... Structure in structure and structure drives, here I see no sense ...

[kit88]

Yes, a really nice idea. Like a balm for the elderly.
But really, what will she do? For EP drown? As I understand it, the political leaders in the USSR Armed Forces monitored the moral character and patriotism of the military. And those who bought Adidas jeans and had the imprudence to drink Coca-Cola instead of kvass fell on a pencil.
Now what? Everyone in Adidas and everyone drinks Merry Milkman from Wim Bil Dan.
First, up there, they need to figure out what ideology is in our country, what we actually want, and then restore the rights of the Second Person in part.
And with the fact that now there is enough an officer working with l / s.

[MPN]

Quote: kit88

For EP drown?

It is possible, moreover, to rest on the protection of the ruling elite from the discontented people ...

[YarSer88]

That's it! There is no ideology as such, but there is a department for the dissemination of ideology. As a collector without a conveyor.

[Doliva63]

Quote: kit88

Yes, a really nice idea. Like a balm for the elderly.
But really, what will she do? For EP drown? As I understand it, the political leaders in the USSR Armed Forces monitored the moral character and patriotism of the military. And those who bought Adidas jeans and had the imprudence to drink Coca-Cola instead of kvass fell on a pencil.
Now what? Everyone in Adidas and everyone drinks Merry Milkman from Wim Bil Dan.
First, up there, they need to figure out what ideology is in our country, what we actually want, and then restore the rights of the Second Person in part.
And with the fact that now there is enough an officer working with l / s.

Have you served in the army or have you talked like that?
Then read the duties of ZKCHR, if there is about jeans or Coke - brandy from me, if not - brandy from you. I'm waiting.

[kit88]

Dear, I had enough of my duties. Yes, and ZKCHR was gone, there was a ZK on BP. UCP notebooks were written by nobody needed. So if it does not bother you, discard the duties of the political officer. Although I do not see the point in reading them. Because both the Charter is a charter, and the Service is a service.
And if the ZKCHR signs a positive testimonial to a young starle, who has gathered at the academy, if he wears an American military shirt ("... Have you heard about Songmy? ... (c)", and he praises American drinks, a year since 1983, then of course cognac from me, but if not, then do not blame me -
FROM YOU.

[gridasov]

He is deputy politician and should be the second person since the specialist must control the brains. New times require new methods of shaping ideological work

[Logall]

Quote: gridasov

New times require new methods of shaping ideological work

Zombies? Or the work of forming a soldier’s consciousness about the superman?

[gridasov]

Do not rush to extremes. A normal person and a soldier are completely compatible things. . And even more so if the service is based on an ideological basis and Faith in the Fatherland, then we may well be happy in the world and at the post. I will not explain much, but new times really require universality.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: gridasov

Zampolit and should be the second person since the specialist must control the brains

The brain is controlled by a psychologist (NLP) or a hypnotist.

Quote: gridasov

New times require new methods of shaping ideological work

Yeah. They introduced the priests. Few. Now enter GlavPur. And where are the holy fathers (separated from the state)? to the religious affairs department or to free bread for the fence part?

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

And where are the holy fathers (separated from the state)?

Sasha, there’s a place after all ...

[Doliva63]

Quote: BoA KAA

Quote: gridasov

Zampolit and should be the second person since the specialist must control the brains

The brain is controlled by a psychologist (NLP) or a hypnotist.

Quote: gridasov

New times require new methods of shaping ideological work

Yeah. They introduced the priests. Few. Now enter GlavPur. And where are the holy fathers (separated from the state)? to the religious affairs department or to free bread for the fence part?

To control the brains in the interests of their combat use in specific conditions - which psychologist will pull?
And the "holy fathers" and so on in this department, of all faiths. But, as you know, their benefits are zero.

[gridasov]

So you yourself answered correctly. Fundamental ideological foundations must be laid in the minds of a soldier, so that landmarks are formed on them in any combat situation. A modern soldier cannot be influenced by external forces of various kinds. He should have formed the root complex guidelines on the basis of morality and everything else, which is very important and necessary. One slogan now can not do. Simple and understandable, and most importantly in the spirit of the times, methods of an ideological order are needed. But this is a long time to explain.

[Sasha_Sar]

Sorry,

New times require new methods of shaping ideological work

What is it like? There is no ideology, but the work IS ?! The constitution must be rewritten ?!

[gridasov]

You confuse something. Ideology is a complex of foundations of morality, ethics, faith in our ideals. Beliefs in the People and the Fatherland. And there is an urgent need.

[AUL]

Gridasov, you are an existentialist! Even worse, with a touch of solipsism!

[gridasov]

If this makes it easier for you, then let me be what you call me. At the same time, I live normally with my ideals and rules.

[AUL]

Quote: gridasov

If this makes it easier for you, then let me be what you call me.

God forbid you to call names - these words are not offensive or abusive! Just scientific.

[gridasov]

I do not understand these words, because it is very simplistic and primitive. There is little scientific in this.

[AUL]

But how it sounds!

[Captain45]

Quote from AUL

Gridasov, you are an existentialist! Even worse, with a touch of solipsism!

Quote: gridasov

I do not understand these words, because it is very simplistic and primitive. There is little scientific in this.

"- This is it from the role, from the role ...
- This role is abusive and I ask you not to apply it to me! " (c) to \ f "Ivan Vasilievich changes his profession"

[Doliva63]

Quote: gridasov

He is deputy politician and should be the second person since the specialist must control the brains. New times require new methods of shaping ideological work

I agree. But methodologies are a technical problem, no more.

[gridasov]

You are right that the very essence of the methodology is really a more technical process. Moreover, based on, to the surprise of many, mathematics. However, the result is precisely in the formation of stable ideological foundations of worldview. I repeat once again that ideology is a more extended and complex issue than was previously thought.

[edeligor]

Quote: Logall

but the main thing is not to go too far ...

In my opinion, "bending" is exactly what these characters are doing ... As for me, we'll see. I'm afraid this initiative will begin with discussions about the dangers of military pensions.

[user]

I'm afraid this initiative will begin with discussions about the dangers of military pensions.

I completely agree, most likely they will start from this. The main thing is that, as in 1920, flooding of barges near the Crimea would not end.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Logall

Zampolity, with the return!
It is necessary to deal with the military-political agenda among the military personnel, but the main thing is not to go too far ... So that it wasn’t, as in the days of the USSR, that the political officer was the second person in the unit.

If the political officer is not the 2nd person in the unit, then he is fucking not needed. Enter the chaplains and everything will be your way But a political officer / political officer / commissar is required. Remember the song: "... the political leaders, political officers, and still the commissars ..."
Because ZKCHR not only knew his l / s thoroughly - with all the problems as a citizen, but could influence the application of a person in a given situation. Of course, a special case, but played a big role - in whom there were doubts at least of the "second level", especially important "military organizational special events" were not allowed. Obviously, the group is formed by the commander, but without the consent of the KCHR, the senior boss will never subscribe. As I remember right now, why didn’t they take me ?! The zapolit killed. Goat! .. But he really started having mental problems - he tried to stab himself with a bayonet-knife after that (having forgotten, however, that he was wearing body armor).
Well, and so on.

[Megatron]

Another sinekura for its own for bloating staff.

[Loess]

Quote: Silvestr

So the new EBN is ahead of us

And what is the relationship between EBN and the political officer?

[rocket757]

Let's see what happens?
Because creating this is not a guarantee that everything will turn out!
In our country, with a rebuff to the "rotten, terrible" west, everything doesn’t understand how, but here they want to clarify everything in one particular case and give a rebuff ??? I doubt very much that it is possible to explain to the soldier, the people, that fighting for the interests of our rich is not that their soldiers are fighting for the interests of their rich!
Protecting our territory, our home, our friends and relatives, we’ll figure it out for ourselves, and protecting the interests of our rich, and even somewhere else, behind a hill, is a big question!
When they manage to convince us that Schaub needed to be like in a song -
I left the hut.
I went to fight.
Schaub land in Grenada.
Give the peasants !!!
- then they’ll get their marks .... but for now it’s such an impression, it will turn out as always!

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Silvestr

So the new EBN is ahead of us

Why EBN? He destroyed it and abolished it, including GlavPur. Rather, L.I. Brezhnev is waiting ahead. He restored the celebration of Victory Day, etc. But for the propaganda machine to work, you need an official IDEOLOGY. Therefore, everything is still to come!

[vadsonen]

Everything goes in a circle. So the new EBN is ahead of us

Still old did not go anywhere.

[Whowhy]

That’s CHAPTER XNUMX recreated. Everything goes in a circle. So the new EBN is ahead of us

It is unlikely that he will have time. Apparently a large "polar fox" will come to us first.

[fridge]

The West may spoil the image of Russia, but in my opinion here, occupants of seats inside Russia with the help of political technologies spoil much more both the image of Russia and the life of citizens.

[rocket757]

So it’s not nice, for those upstairs, but on the garlic!

[BAI]

I don’t understand where we are heading: to the political commanders or regimental chaplains?

[DEDPIHTO]

To new-fledged political instructors from Edra. The battle will be raised with a cry, For profits (oligarchs)! For Putin!

[MPN]

Is one agency missing? Need more? Here it seems that the church is sprinkling military equipment and all that is possible, but how can the commissar tolerate this ... They have already become clever in my opinion ... it would be time to know the measure ...

[Doliva63]

Quote: MPN

Is one agency missing? Need more? Here it seems that the church is sprinkling military equipment and all that is possible, but how can the commissar tolerate this ... They have already become clever in my opinion ... it would be time to know the measure ...

But one measure - down with obscurantism and privatization!

[parusnik]

It is not clear to which past we are returning, to the “damned Soviet totalitarianism” or tsarist .. then they raised the identity: Who is the external enemy? Yermanets and Austrians .. But who is the enemy of the Inner Life? Greed, spudants and socialists ..

[gridasov]

Now we need new ideological concepts in the formation of both patriotism and morality and spirit, and much more. And without this, it is impossible to develop the country. Therefore, whoever does not understand this, it is better to let him shut up

[parusnik]

So, I gave you an example of one concept .. In a bourgeois state, the concept - "people and the army are one" .. will not pass .. or such - "The Soviet Army is on guard of the gains of the October Socialist Revolution" ... And that we have an army now politically decomposed? Subject to Western ideological sabotage? .. I would have been exposed, the soldiers of this army did not cause fire on themselves ..

[Sasha_Sar]

Alexander, don’t you see that this character is yearning for his past. Over time, they will make it that an officer not a member of EP cannot be a mid-level commander, not to mention a senior. What could have broken the career of an officer during the campaigns? Reprimand on the party line, reprimand for the loss of "secrets" and the loss of weapons (small arms).

[parusnik]

That's for sure ... In anguish ... on ideological concepts, moreover new .. What he doesn’t say, but the main thing is to develop .. That's what VPU will do ..

[Sasha_Sar]

It just touches me as a character with a yellow-blakid flag defends his point of view. If you recall the times of the USSR, all the schools of the political leaders (maybe almost all) were on the territory of the Ukrainian SSR. Even our naval was in Kiev. True, they studied there not for five years, like all normal ones, for four years. We called them "the year did not finish their studies." GlavPur should be created in the Government and the Central Bank, let them tell their "fables" there, maybe then something will change for the better for the people. The capital of the oligarchs will be taken back to Russia. Abramovich will sell the yacht and buy himself a Kazanka.

[gridasov]

You see, but you all voiced in the style of the old days. With this confrontation, the world is growing and attacks on the resource owned by Russia will only grow. Moreover, intransigence with Slavic ideals was and will be. We are just at the base of our morality a little different. And your values ​​also need to be protected. Therefore, you need to understand the underlying processes both in the world and in Russia itself and to know the history and see the whole aggregate picture of our place in the world

[Doliva63]

Quote: gridasov

Now we need new ideological concepts in the formation of both patriotism and morality and spirit, and much more. And without this, it is impossible to develop the country. Therefore, whoever does not understand this, it is better to let him shut up

In the interests of the oligarchs - yes, in the interests of the people - no.
You can be silent.

[dauria]

And hto is the enemy of the morning? Greed, spudants and socialists ..

"rioters, students, horse thieves, train of arms and Poles" (Kuprin)

And according to the article - it is necessary, it is necessary. But how can one explain to a soldier in peacetime that his mother and sister are robbing the state and forcing him to make a master? Yes, even against the backdrop of a walking young "elite". Where are the fools to collect so much?

[parusnik]

But how can one explain to a soldier in peacetime that his mother and sister are robbing the state and forcing him to make a master? Yes, even against the backdrop of a walking young "elite". Where are the fools to collect so much?

... That's just it ... and how they will tell, only about external enemies, but will they also mention the "inner" ones?

[Sasha_Sar]

But what about the Bulk Leshka ...

[Demon_is_ada]

I agree with you completely, as ill-conceived ... To raise a soldier in the attack - "For Abramovich’s yacht, for the fur store ... we die as one !!!" ... To be honest, it somehow doesn’t motivate me, or rather it motivates me, but in a completely different direction ... Here something like this

[gridasov]

No need to look for fools and perpetrators, saviors and prophets. You just need to live a normal and proper life, work in your place and enjoy what you have.

[Doliva63]

Quote: dauria

And hto is the enemy of the morning? Greed, spudants and socialists ..

"rioters, students, horse thieves, train of arms and Poles" (Kuprin)

And according to the article - it is necessary, it is necessary. But how can one explain to a soldier in peacetime that his mother and sister are robbing the state and forcing him to make a master? Yes, even against the backdrop of a walking young "elite". Where are the fools to collect so much?

If there are not enough fools, they will be created - not only through the USE, but now also with the help of Glavpur

[Boa kaa]

Quote: parusnik

It’s not clear what kind of past we are returning to, “damned Soviet totalitarianism” or tsarist ..

Yes, everything is very simple. Putin and Shoigu went to China. We looked, and there commissars and political officers in the army rule, and even build commanders. And the order there "in the tank troops"! as during the great helmsman of Meow Dzedun ...
So our rulers also wanted to protect the army from reeling and corrupting influence of trends alien to our military history. Then they remembered that the RF Armed Forces is a school of courage and civic maturity ... So they will send all the men to the "school" ... to study civic maturity.
BUT!

[gridasov]

Someone may like it or not, but it is necessary.

[vadsonen]

Someone may like it or not, but it is necessary.

Indeed, the rating of the Sun is 76% only on kissel-tv. Should something happen, not all will go for the oligarchs to die.

[gridasov]

I will not go into the topic much, but the oligarchy system, if I may call it that, is necessary and very important. It’s important to understand what needs to be done in the development algorithm of world events,

[AUL]

Quote: gridasov

Someone may like it or not, but it is necessary.

To whom? Don’t say that the army!

[gridasov]

This is necessary primarily for people who create and control weapons. Technologies are developing and new solutions in the field of armaments will reduce the number of people participating in direct clashes. The trends are obvious. Therefore, apparently we have different ideas about what the army should be in the near and future.

[Igor V]

Ideology is prohibited by the Constitution, so on what basis will the GPU bring up? Based on religion? But she, again under the Constitution, is separated from the state. What platform was let under the creation of a new structure?

[New Year day]

Quote: Igor V

. What platform was let under the creation of a new structure?

And what is the ideology in North Korea? This is also with us. The leader with the support of 76% is God. Here is him and worship

[win9090]

There is a juche idea for show

[New Year day]

Quote: win9090

There is a juche idea for show

we will have a "path"

[vadsonen]

we will have a "path"

Chapeau!

[Igor V]

I would really like it to be wrong.

[New Year day]

Quote: Igor V

I would really like it to be wrong.

that's for sure

[The Siberian barber]

I completely agree! +

[Moore]

Quote: Igor V

so on what basis will the GPU bring up?

Judging by the statement, they did not gather to educate, but to give

worthy rebuff, create a healthy counterweight.

and deal closely

patriotic work among the military.

.
We will rename the deputies for educational work into the deputies for the military-political and we’ll live - then we certainly aren’t afraid of any adversary.

The new structure was created on the basis of the Main Directorate for Work with the Personnel of the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation (established in 1992).

And I, naive, thought that this Directorate for working with military personnel was created on the basis of the Main Directorate for Educational Work of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in 2010 in accordance with the corresponding directive of the Ministry of Defense.
An interesting portrait of the former head of this department - Colonel Baryshev M.N.
The feeling of a powerful jack in the seat of this warrior is available.
At 31 (when still majors) - the commander of the Commandant Regiment, then the FSO and the head of CSKA. And then the heroic Mutko includes him in the board of the Ministry of Sports. And then tedious educational work ... As I understand it, beyond the Arbat this officer was not noted anywhere.
Either the metropolitan colonel did not justify his hopes, or they found a more worthy and less fussy place ...

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Moore

We will rename the deputies for educational work into the deputies for the military-political and we’ll live - then we certainly aren’t afraid of any adversary.

The idea, of course, is interesting! (with)
What is it that turns out? SU-57 - we are not building, T-14 - we are not buying, new ships and atomic carriers - too .... But, as an equivalent replacement, we are introducing political workers !?
Well, morally, we will go far into the age of high technology! Maybe all the same, the material basis also needs to be addressed? And then ...
In the age of contactless wars, we would like to replace our slogan “I perish but don’t give up” with a more modern slogan: “I’m you enemy, and I’ll get you over the hill!”
IMHO.

[Dull]

Quote: Igor V

Ideology is prohibited by the Constitution, so on what basis will the GPU bring up? Based on religion? But she, again under the Constitution, is separated from the state. What platform was let under the creation of a new structure?

"Edinosos" is the "master" of the Russian land and the interests of the masters should protect the "pigs" from among the "cattle". Our children must protect the interests of the "boyars" with their lives. Forced conscription, toms and example. A slave with weapons is necessary for slave owners to protect their possessions. Writing off billions of dollars of public debt in the interests of the "boyars" is nothing more than "grabbing the budget" of the St. Petersburg organized crime group, because recounting is always possible and on mutually beneficial conditions.

[The Siberian barber]

A bit "weird" decision, given that the country has not formulated its ideology

[Hadji Murat]

military general Kartapolov and the political leaders! Apparently they attach great importance to this management, since its head is elevated to the rank of deputy defense minister!

[rotmistr60]

Everything “new” is well forgotten old. So since the late 80s and live. We then abolish again we introduce, rename then we understand that in vain, we reduce - we deploy ...

[longin]

Another staff of loafers scored.

[Blue fox]

Quote: MPN

Structure in structure and structure drives, here I see no sense ...

Yeah. There is a closet for educational work with specific duties and powers, why then another structure ?? To produce even more political leaders or to have another loophole for getting “sweatpants” after the hat? After all, it is no secret that the political officer who is the ultimate dream of getting into the press service would have no career growth without command posts. And here is such a prospect! The next step, probably, is the reopening of military-political schools anew instead of short-lived departments in specialized higher educational institutions. :(

[win9090]

Back in USSR. I wonder what kind of watered work will be carried out there? About the leading role of Edra?

Again, a bunch of useless people will be recruited.

[Dull]

Quote: win9090

Again, a bunch of useless people will be recruited.

Useless for us, the population, but not for them, new “boyars”. Do you see the difference? The main thing is to send a forced draft "" to die for the right, from the point of view of the "Elite" goals. For example, for new oil fields for oligarchs.

[Separ]

What will come up instead of MLP? And what ... write notes again?

[Vadim237]

It would be better to create a national missile defense system than any useless departments.

[Tavrik]

ABM is difficult. Here you need to think. Let's get better politicians, police, educators, priests ...

[Dull]

Quote: Vadim237

It would be better to create a national missile defense system than any useless departments.

And, to "master" the money from the budget? You, just like a child!

[Galleon]

Once again, some will fight, while others will brain ... treat and look after them, and not answer for anything. Climb to the officers with a guiding word, and at the same time do not answer for anything. Battle sheets require. As they wrote here, one wants to “control the brain”.
And in full dress, give them leather jackets and Mausers, only wooden ones.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Galleon

Once again, some will fight, while others will brain ... treat and look after them, and not answer for anything. Climb to the officers with a guiding word, and at the same time do not answer for anything. Battle sheets require. As they wrote here, one wants to “control the brain”.
And in full dress, give them leather jackets and Mausers, only wooden ones.

Where did so many sick with insanity come from?

[Samara_63]

It would be better if the salary was raised ...
What does it remind me of — the Soviet army, where is it now?

[Vadim237]

Deployed in Karaganda

[Samara_63]

Something recently, the authorities have been making very unpopular steps ...

[Laksamana besar]

In the mid-nineties, we had a closet on educational work (they did not conduct political information, or maybe did, I don’t remember), but we still called them political officers, classes called Lenin’s rooms. And I went with the Komsomol badge (when I “matured”), although I didn’t join it during the Union, but I entered into the soldier myself in the column “Is the Komsomol member” the year of his call (though in pencil, just in case), just we received the last Soviet model. After the service, after a couple of years, he accidentally washed it along with a passport in a washing machine. The passport - in a rag, a military man - really survived, only got a little frayed and the stamps were stamped on the pages, now I have two of them - the Soviet (said that he had lost) and the Russian. I don’t know whether the Russian will survive in the washer, I haven’t tried it myself, maybe my son will now try his own.

[Laksamana besar]

In the mid-nineties, we were deputies for educational work (they did not conduct political information, or maybe they did, I don’t remember) they were called political committees, classes were called Leninist rooms. And I went with the Komsomol badge (when I “matured”), although I didn’t join it during the Union, but I entered into the soldier myself in the column “Is the Komsomol member” the year of his call (though in pencil, just in case), just we received the last Soviet model. After the service, after a couple of years, he accidentally washed it along with a passport in a washing machine. The passport - in a rag, a military man - really survived, only got a little frayed and the stamps were stamped on the pages, now I have two of them - the Soviet (said that he had lost) and the Russian. I don’t know whether the Russian will survive in the washer, I haven’t tried it myself, maybe my son will now try his own.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Logall

Zampolity, with the return!
It is necessary to deal with the military-political agenda among the military personnel, but the main thing is not to go too far ... So that it wasn’t, as in the days of the USSR, that the political officer was the second person in the unit.

Well, yes, the first political informer in the unit ..

[Doliva63]

Quote: 30 vis

Quote: Logall

Zampolity, with the return!
It is necessary to deal with the military-political agenda among the military personnel, but the main thing is not to go too far ... So that it wasn’t, as in the days of the USSR, that the political officer was the second person in the unit.

Well, yes, the first political informer in the unit ..

To himself a snitch, or what?

[Xnumx vis]

You obviously did not serve in the Soviet army. The Zampolit knocks - knocked on the commander, other officers. But the commander of Hochma led us away ... By speakerphone he announced - "The informants of the political commander will be built on the parade ground within seven minutes .." They were built ...... They all barked except for the informers and the political ...

[ZVS]

. The point here is far from patriotism; the military cannot occupy patriotism. The fact is that the alleged government policy in the field of economics for the next 6 years may cause a storm of indignation not only in the civilian environment, but also in the military. Suffice it to say that over the past 6 years, the government has not adjusted military salaries to inflation, as provided for in the 2012 Law

[Doliva63]

Quote: SU

. The point here is far from patriotism; the military cannot occupy patriotism. The fact is that the alleged government policy in the field of economics for the next 6 years may cause a storm of indignation not only in the civilian environment, but also in the military. Suffice it to say that over the past 6 years, the government has not adjusted military salaries to inflation, as provided for in the 2012 Law

Vootoot, this is already closer from all posts to the truth!

[amateur2]

Will the deputy politicians be from United Russia? And now what will they take notes on political activities? The guarantor did not seem to have written anything yet. They will probably study Direct Lines with the President. We looked - they took notes. Then the political instructor will ask: "Private Pupkin! And what the Supreme said in 2012 about the growth of agricultural products ..."

[DEDPIHTO]

No money, but you hold on, vigorously minted out by Private Pupkin, who was sticking out in his outfit and skipping the topic about ,, agricultural production growth .. ,,

[amateur2]

Three outfits out of turn! It said iPhone

[DEDPIHTO]

History is silent that Private Pupkov replied to the Edros politician, but after some time, Sergeant SA Pupkov escorted a group of convicts to places not so remote, and in one ragged and overgrown beard he recognized his former political officer ..

[antiexpert]

Political instructor from the party of crooks and thieves which ideology will preach? Despite the fact that ideology is prohibited by the 13th article of the Constitution of the Russian Federation?

[Sadko88]

It is high time! Our ideology is simple. Defend the homeland, provide the world and do not forget God

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Sadko88

Our ideology is simple.

Exactly, at least for sailors:
GOD AND ANDREY FLAG WITH US !!!

[Doliva63]

Quote: Sadko88

It is high time! Our ideology is simple. Defend the homeland, provide the world and do not forget God

Nothing contrary to the Constitution? There is no ideology, no god (any denomination).

[Tavrik]

Is the creation of a military-political administration somehow connected with a drop in the president’s rating?

[Dull]

Quote: Tavrik

Is the creation of a military-political administration somehow connected with a drop in the president’s rating?

Of course not. This is due to the interests of the population!

[Eustace]

http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/5415903?utm_source=wa
rfiles.com

[Ros 56]

The institute of political leaders is reviving. But what about the ideological department in United Russia and other parliamentary parties and the corresponding structure in the FSB?

[Ros 56]

Yes, do not care where he worked. What kind of politics will it push, communist or capitalist? Yes, and ideology is prohibited. Inconsistency however.

[pafegosoff]

Not by constitution.
Ali needs to change it, American to Stalinist - more benefits.

[Doliva63]

Quote: pafegosoff

Not by constitution.
Ali needs to change it, American to Stalinist - more benefits.

The "elite" needs not profit for the people, but profit. And yes, the RF Armed Forces will protect it, which should be explained by the new "political leaders"

[bald]

It’s shitty that it’s hard to find normal people in their posts, but they won’t search - here’s your company, act. Again twenty-five political officers, political leaders ?! - I well remember how from the golden-headed, general offspring appointed. They don’t know how to do nihrena - they just interfere - and there are a lot of different problems, in a word - stupid people memorized by the charter - like their dad. And in general - this is such a difficult moment - if they want it to work correctly, humanly. Up to that point, the ordinary rank-and-file composition - immediately saw in relation to them - what kind of bird. The main criterion is unequivocal - I don’t even know what they will be called - a normal soul - and there is only harm.

[Doliva63]

Quote: bald

It’s shitty that it’s hard to find normal people in their posts, but they won’t search - here’s your company, act. Again twenty-five political officers, political leaders ?! - I well remember how from the golden-headed, general offspring appointed. They don’t know how to do nihrena - they just interfere - and there are a lot of different problems, in a word - stupid people memorized by the charter - like their dad. And in general - this is such a difficult moment - if they want it to work correctly, humanly. Up to that point, the ordinary rank-and-file composition - immediately saw in relation to them - what kind of bird. The main criterion is unequivocal - I don’t even know what they will be called - a normal soul - and there is only harm.

When the fighters, 25 years after the demobilization, write to the politician happy birthday congratulations - was the normal politician? In the Union, such were taught, however.

[Dull]

Quote: Doliva63

When the fighters, 25 years after the demobilization, write to the politician happy birthday congratulations - was the normal politician? They were taught in the Union, however

I’m my political leader and now I’ll send to ... How many of these freaks became worthy of continuing contact after the army? Out of hundreds of thousands? Scum on the neck of the state ...

[Doliva63]

Quote: Dumb

Quote: Doliva63

When the fighters, 25 years after the demobilization, write to the politician happy birthday congratulations - was the normal politician? They were taught in the Union, however

I’m my political leader and now I’ll send to ... How many of these freaks became worthy of continuing contact after the army? Out of hundreds of thousands? Scum on the neck of the state ...

There were no contracts at that time. These were the remains of the real USSR. But at the expense of "scum" - you obviously did not finalize your political leaders

[Dull]

Quote: Doliva63

There were no contracts at that time. These were the remains of the real USSR. But at the expense of "scum" - you obviously did not finalize your political leaders

I agree. I would be in the zone, but 40 years for disagreeing with the CPSU Policy. Thank you for the demobilization in 1984!

[iouris]

There is no ideology, or rather, Hollywood ideology. What are the functions of this control?

[senima56]

Well, and in the government they say: "There is no money!" It turns out there is! And big ones! Or maybe we’ll recreate the institute of commissars? Why trifle?

[Normal ok]

Western enemies do a lot to discredit the image of Russia and the Russian armed forces

Quote: Vladimir 5

Political management as a department of information warfare in times of hybrid clash is necessary. Only it should work in the right directions and not become a parasitic soap bubble, like the GLAVPUR ...

WHAT FOR

TRY

DISCRETE WHEN AND SO EVERYTHING IS DISCREDITED?

[pafegosoff]

About Epishev everyone (almost all?) Is remembered as a rare dolbyatel. Damage to the country and the army is incredible. Well, then - KP SS, now - YEDR ...
"The house has disappeared! Everything will go like butter ... First, every evening, singing, then pipes will freeze in the toilets. Then the steam heating will burst ... And so on .." .. "Tell me, did this bring you into FedorPalych Sablin’s apartment? - Us ! -More! The house disappeared ... What will happen to steam heating ... "
And instead of lennok there will be Putin rooms?

[Dull]

Quote: pafegosoff

And instead of lennok there will be Putin rooms?

Prayer rooms for worship to the King and his jester!

[Metallurg_2]

The main thing is that comrades who can "only in language" don’t go to posts in the new administration ...

[The Siberian barber]

Duc, it is THESE "tovarschi" and trample .. (
Trandet language, do not toss pebbles! (С)

[Marconi41]

Damn, always treated the commissars dismissively. Completely unnecessary military caste, which the hell will defeat. So now they again float to the surface. When will this political institute be buried in the army ?! Healers of human souls. Budenovka and Mauser to their soul. Brrr

[earloop]

If there are people, then voluntarily or involuntarily, you need to work with them. Moreover, not formally, but without fanaticism and stupid "enthusiasm."

[shef598]

We are waiting for a million pointers and recommendations, because people in the troops have nothing to do !!!!

[vladimirvn]

According to the Constitution, ideology is forbidden ?! Or they don’t care, and the laws are written only for us.

[Catfish]

As our chief of staff of the battalion, Major F.M. Davydov: "The political worker does not have life, but raspberries. He shut his mouth - he removed the workplace!"

During his service (1966-69), he did not meet officers with any respect for political workers. So again, I believe, a confrontation will begin: the armed forces will "pull the strap", and the political officers will work in language. Who listened to them when, and conscripts in all the "political institutions" always simply slept. And now it will be the same, the history of okhlamons does not teach anything. By the way, before fig political workers helped with the complete collapse of the Union? And the next decrease in money in the abyss is new structures, new posts. Then the slogan of the government “Give the pension reform” becomes clear! Again, the skin will be torn from us. Well, not from Putin’s friend Abramovich.

[M. Michelson]

They created a political administration, but there is no politics.
And it seems to me much more important to create structures under the troops that will independently evaluate the qualifications and discipline of personnel (which should then affect their careers).