Borisov: The construction of the DKVP was laid down in the state armament program until 2027

The construction of several dozen hovercraft in the interests of the Russian Navy fleet stipulated and laid down in the state arms program until 2027, said Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov.

Answering journalists' questions, he explained that the construction of the Zubr and Murena hovercraft is provided for by the state armaments program. Orders for their construction will be placed at the Khabarovsk Shipbuilding Plant, previously specializing in aluminum hulls, while this is not about units, but about dozens of ships.

Earlier it was reported that at the Khabarovsk shipbuilding there was an extremely difficult situation due to the lack of orders from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

The hovercraft of project 12322 of the Bison type is 57 meters long and 20 meters wide. Displacement is 535 tons, draft - only 2 meters. It is equipped with high-temperature gas turbine engines that provide the ship with an air cushion thanks to four 2,5-meter propellers, and it is driven by three more propellers with a variable angle of attack and diameters of 5,5 meters. The ship is capable of speeds of 70 knots or 130 km / h. The Bison can land on 78% of the coast of the world without any preparation, although landing ships with opening nose ramps do this only on 14% of coastlines. The ship is capable of delivering three to the coast tank weighing up to 150 tons or 10 armored personnel carriers with marines. In addition to transporting troops, the ship can carry out the installation of minefields and provide fire support to the troops.

Project 12061 "Moray" - airborne assault boat. The boat is intended for receiving from the equipped or non-equipped coast of military equipment and personnel of the advanced detachments of amphibious assault forces, transporting them by sea, disembarking on the unequipped coast and fire support. Boats of this type may also be involved in the tasks of setting active minefields.
The boat provides for the transportation of military equipment in the following composition: 1 medium tank weighing up to 50; or 2 armored personnel carrier; or 2 infantry fighting vehicles. Instead of placing military equipment, the cargo deck can be equipped with removable benches to accommodate the 140 landing force man.
The boat has a very impressive armament: Artillery - two mm 30 automatic installation type AK-630 (ammunition - 3000 shells) and fire control system. Anti-aircraft - 8 sets of portable air defense systems of the “Needle” type. The ship’s mine equipment consists of a set of portable equipment for setting from 10 to 24 min, depending on their type.

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[K-50]

The construction of several dozen hovercraft in the interests of the Russian Navy is envisaged and incorporated into the state armaments program until 2027, said Deputy Prime Minister Yury Borisov.

And the "motors"?
Previously, they were equipped with Ukrainian, five pieces "on board", but now where to get, and even in such quantities?

[Mountain shooter]

But about the fact that Saturn intercepted the production of ship turbines - did not hear? Well, he continues to work. Apparently, mastered and for the "Bison". Therefore, plans appeared for their construction. Surely they will strengthen air defense on new ones, and artillery.

[K-50]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

But about the fact that Saturn intercepted the production of ship turbines - did not hear?

Well, intercepted, but how much was released?
And how much can?
We have all the ships under construction left without engines, can they satisfy the demand?

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

But about the fact that Saturn intercepted the production of ship turbines - did not hear?

No, they didn’t, but how much did he already put in the Navy? - not a single one is correct !!! and of course, in the next 5 years it won’t deliver (for both types of frigates) And when the series goes you will be surprised how often repairmen will stand - since the quality is just disgusting, it's better to take Chinese !!! yes youth educate humanly

[Vanek]

Quote: Sandor Clegane

since the quality is just disgusting

It’s just they’re not going to one place yet.

In Ukraine, that's all for ointment. Nothing, huh? The entire fleet provided.

Yes? Fictional character.

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Vanek

In Ukraine, everything is on ointment

what does Ukraine have to do with it?

Quote: Vanek

Nothing, huh?

with GTU - YES!

Quote: Vanek

Yes? Fictional character.

to whom am I writing? - this is Vanya - Vanya as in a fairy tale about three brothers, Vanya is just the third, when you want to say nothing, but really want to immediately remember Ukraine

[Vanek]

Quote: Sandor Clegane

just the third

That’s exactly what he did.

It's like a fairytale.

Quote: Sandor Clegane

recalls

Not. I don’t remember. At any opportunity, you recall. How did you want everyone, but at one event to collect in order to restore the Ukrainian fleet.

Well? Is everyone gathered?

[siberalt]

The construction of the Bison is somewhat associated with the Bialowieza Forest ... Why not start production of sea bass tanks or armored personnel carriers Seal?

[K-50]

Quote: siberalt

Why not start production of sea bass tanks or armored personnel carriers Seal?

It’s impossible, they will suddenly drown, and this is material loss. Then the guilty will begin to search.

[1vlad19]

Well, not five, but six. Yes, and it costs AK 306, not AK 630.

[Alex777]

Amatement lovers will not see the difference.
And they don’t understand that the Bison ship is on an air cushion ...
Dozens in the ranks is an unreal mriya.
There is no money to modernize Moscow, but is there any money for building expensive ships in operation? Yes, and whom and where are they going to land? Do we have a defense?

[max702]

Quote: Alex777

There is no money to modernize Moscow, but is there any money for building expensive ships in operation? Yes, and whom and where are they going to land? Do we have a defense?

Somehow yes, no one asked the main question WHY !!!!

[Mountain shooter]

Will they swim to California? It’s a pity there isn’t enough fuel ... And it would be great to have a fleet of such "unexpected" ... But all the coasts of the European seas are available!

[Dashout]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Will they swim to California? It’s a pity there isn’t enough fuel ... And it would be great to have a fleet of such "unexpected" ...

Delivered from the Petrel ..., will take ..

[bouncyhunter]

said Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov

Too many Borisov visited. His mouth and honey to slurp ...

[rocket757]

Hey.
To load shipbuilding capacities with military orders, this is all a temporary measure!
We need to think about the future, but it’s just foggy .... orders for military equipment, except for resuscitation and industrial support, are subsequently EXPENDITURE, EXPENDITURE, etc., irreplaceable in any way, unless you make equipment for sale outside!
If necessary, we do, but we must not forget about the citizen, otherwise everything will end very badly!

[bouncyhunter]

Hi Victor!

Quote: rocket757

To load shipbuilding capacities with military orders, this is all a temporary measure! If necessary, we do, but we must not forget about the citizen, otherwise everything will end very badly!

So who is arguing? Here it is comprehensively necessary: ​​to place military orders, and not to forget about the civilian component.

[Solomon Kane]

Yes! In principle, the gentlemen - functionaries have one concept - the "funeral" ....
Orders on the maritime theme - unmeasured, the potential and developments are enormous .....
But the team "SHA!" above, crosses out all of the above.
Pasha! My regards!

[Moore]

Quote: rocket757

COSTS, COSTS, etc., irreplaceable in any way

Right now, having heard about the irreplaceability, armourers and economists all over the world cried.
Development of production capacities based on government orders? Employment of the population, salary of personnel, maintenance / increase of their purchasing power? Taxes?
No, not heard.

[rocket757]

The statement of the cool economist and political scientist !!!
Just why all the normal firms, concerns and other associations combine both. Permanent war is a gift for very few, for larger ones something more global is needed .... if the balance of military and peaceful products is not maintained, there is no guaranteed sales market for products.
Let us return from global to our problems .... but everything is the same, only enlarged many times.
Only military production poses a lot of problems for the manufacturer / owner, if you do not play golf with the president or he is not the president of your country.
In short, we read sho on this topic, and then .......

[Moore]

Quote: rocket757

The statement of the cool economist and political scientist !!! ... In short, they read sho on this topic, and then .......

Karpyazhny, aka pomp, is not given very well.
On the topic - it is not necessary to switch from warm to soft. It was stated that the military component of production without entering the foreign market does not bear any dividends - only expenses. Because de and combine the military with the citizen. To prove the "bunch of problems" did not bother.
Yeah, make the Boeing corporation laugh with the statement about the loss making of its military component of production, or the same UVZ.
And yes, KBIS V. Lobaev, Tsar Cannon, Promtekhnologiya - everyone plays golf with Comrade First one?
So reading on the topic is useful to everyone, regardless of the level of FWM.

[rocket757]

Military products are sold, but this is not infinite.
In our case, examples from the recent past are like forget!
Oh well. Comparison with Boeing is especially touching ... all of our companies have such a market ??? In addition, to smear something military on bread instead of butter, it must be a big optimist.
Conclusion - It’s not reasonable to not make war for yourself and to sell, but to forget such a word as conversion is stupid too. Those. if possible, both of them will not be out of place; a guarantee in case of a large, global reconciliation.
This program is not for tomorrow, even as long as there is a demand, the demand for the military is ours too, but it is not infinite, the reduction in the volume of purchases will be by any means, although this must be achieved in the world. Let's see how it goes.

[dog breeder]

The boat holds well, so many trained specialists can create a bunch of problems for the enemy. And about the ship and say nothing. The necessary projects need to be revived and produced. Well, about refueling, we’ll add salt to the surrender.

[BAI]

Yesterday Borisov, today Borisov. Maybe immediately all the same all the press conference to publish?

[Zubr]

I’m interested in the further fate of the issue of the Samok and Bora RTOs. Will these beauties be released yet?

[san4es]

Project 12061 "Moray" - an air-cushion landing boat.

Full displacement with a load of 24 t, t 148,6
Length is the greatest, m 30,2
The greatest width across the hull, m 13,1
Full speed cushion with load, knot 55
Range at full speed with a full supply of fuel with a load of 24 tons, 200 miles
Navigation in the air cushion mode for using weapons, points 3
Autonomy by provisions and fresh water, day 1
The crew of the boat, pers. 12
WEAPONS
30 mm AK-306 automatic artillery mount - 2 sets (1000 rounds)
30 mm BP-30 automatic grenade launcher - 2 sets (800 grenades)
Igla portable anti-aircraft missile system (MANPADS) - 8 sets
Instead of landing equipment, it is possible to receive mines PM-2, RM-1, RM-2, UDM, UDM-500 .....

[1vlad19]

My "Moray" 659 onboard!

[san4es]

Quote: 1vlad19

... My "moray" 659 onboard!

... Happy Navy Day! ...

[Cympak]

Our Navy was already talking about dozens of new corvettes and frigates. And where?
Wang, that they will start building again, and then it turns out that either there are no engines, or gearboxes have forgotten how to do it. They will build three pieces and declare this a great transformation of the fleet.
To save the fleet, IMHO you need to tie the number of admirals to the number of combat-capable ships of the first rank.

[svp67]

But now it’s not clear, but what about the plant in the Crimea? The "sea" from Feodosia used to specialize in such ships

[Laksamana besar]

Perhaps he only meant Mureny, because they were made at XKZ and it’s generally not clear about several dozen. And the “Sea” is now building three Karakurt and is currently renting from “Pella”, which will be shown further by time, and modernization is going on in the same place.

[1vlad19]

Well, in general, 10 orders, “Murena” were not made in the KhSZ, then yes. My photo was an experienced "Moray" is completely different, there is one AK 306 above the wheelhouse.

[lwxx]

"SEA" is now more focused on small missile boats; there isn’t enough capacity for everything. And here there is an opportunity to try the population of the Far East, which is leaving en masse. But where to get the specialists? If only from Ukraine to accept, Nikolaev.

[1vlad19]

Are there numbers of those leaving? I look at applications for the Far Eastern Hectare from the central part of Russia. It was always, they installed turbines, trained personnel, it was time for verification and renewal, a specialist came from the factory and conducts. We do not produce turbines here.

[lwxx]

And what does it yourself? Hammer in a search engine a question (for especially unbelievers add Rosstat) and get numbers. But to this we must add that not all those who leave are discharged. Someone because of the close retirement, someone because of the work, which has become seasonal, etc. On the example of Kamchatka, outflow is strong here. The situation is the same in Magadan and Khabar, a little better in Vladik, but also not ice.

[petrol cutter]

And yesterday I reported on the likely development of events. The article for "Bison". It must be assumed that by the year 20 domestic gas turbines will be brought. By this time, we will have completed a contract with Pella for issue 22800. And in the former third workshop (which is now a branch of Pella), the production of these steamboats can begin. Since it was only in him that they were built all his life, one even stands to this day. Modestly in the corner.

[rotmistr60]

Orders for their construction will be placed at the Khabarovsk Shipyard,

Good news for Khabarovsk shipbuilders. With what they can only be congratulated. And ships of course are necessary for our fleet.

[Alex 2016]

Well done! In the best case, they will build one, because then it turns out that there is no money, and rafts are cheaper, have no analogues in the world and have huge modernization potential ...))))

[Letnab]

Good news, I think for many .. For the Navy, for the Far East as a development perspective
The only question confuses according to Muren, tanks and infantry fighting vehicles are slowly getting heavier from ext. protection and equipment, it’s probably time to consider increasing load capacity

[sib.ataman]

These funds are good because they can drive both by sea and by river! On such "Bison" and "Murenakh" to the rear of the NATO "Eagles" along the Danube, Vistula, Oder and other rivers, such landings can be thrown that the Airborne Forces will not drop! And they do not care for mines, whether on water or on land! Their competitors are only ekranoplanes, but they need an acceleration, and the DKVP, like helicopters, can hang in place and maneuver slowly. Even by land, only dust will be clouds, even a smoke curtain is not needed! And on these DKVP of the Russian Federation again ahead of the rest!

[BAI]

I don’t know how it is with warships, but with household boats this soft air cushion fence (“skirt” below) is very easily cut off by ice hummocks and the boat sits belly on ice (they moved along the frozen Siberian river). So on cross all is not so good.

[1vlad19]

Quote: BAI

this soft cushion for the air cushion (the "skirt" below) is very easily cut by ice hummocks

The "Moray", "Stingray", which I know, calmly walked along the Amur River and did not cut the "skirt", but now there are inflatable pontoons, now they are torn. The difference in technology, on the "Muren" rubber 2 cm and it just hangs, pats the maximum edge, and so, usually nothing.

[Uralean]

Quote: BAI

I don’t know how it is with warships, but with household boats this soft air cushion fence (“skirt” below) is very easily cut off by ice hummocks and the boat sits belly on ice (they moved along the frozen Siberian river). So on cross all is not so good.

Yeah, you still make Murena jump in the mountains ... Where to go on the ice? In Alaska, to the rear of the Americans? They won’t pass there .. And they can go round in California .. Along the frozen Siberian rivers Tanks with armored personnel carriers will run themselves without any Bison and Muren ..)

[Uralean]

Quote: Sandor Clegane

Quote: Mountain Shooter

But about the fact that Saturn intercepted the production of ship turbines - did not hear?

No, they didn’t, but how much did he already put in the Navy? - not a single one is correct !!! and of course, in the next 5 years it won’t deliver (for both types of frigates) And when the series goes you will be surprised how often repairmen will stand - since the quality is just disgusting, it's better to take Chinese !!! yes youth educate humanly

Don’t be so upset ... The engines have gone, and they will continue to grow .. New factories for the production of Engines are being built .. And they need a lot .. And the Aviation, and the ship and at the Heating Station, before everything was in Ukra, now we are developing ourselves, time , patience, and everything will be created .. Our people are brilliant, from scratch, they built factories in the field and put them into operation .. SO IT WILL BE Now ... Who can’t wait to have it now and all at once, let them moan and complain ..

[Old26]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Will they swim to California? It’s a pity there isn’t enough fuel ... And so it would be great to have a fleet of such "unexpected" ... But all coasts of European seas - available!

Given that UKRAINE - CE EUROPEthen yes, available.
To Odessa to the limit, but it will reach and will return back .. To Constance, Varna, Istanbul - it will reach, but only one way

Quote: bouncyhunter

Too many Borisov visited. His mouth and honey to slurp ...

Paul! This is the same yap as Rogozin. If you look at what he was broadcasting as deputy defense minister - EARS ARE DRAWN.. PR knows how perfectly. And what is not promoted if you are not responsible for what has been said ...

Quote: Zubr

I’m interested in the further fate of the issue of the Samok and Bora RTOs. Will these beauties be released yet?

The silence is utter. It would be better to let out the path than to broadcast about ekranoplans. Well, "Bison" and "Moray" is SMALL landing ships. tactical landing. Here it is possible to land an landing in the south of Ukraine, in Georgia or the Baltic states with the help of such KVP. And for more serious distances, they are not suitable

Quote: sib.ataman

On such "Bison" and "Murenakh" to the rear of the NATO "Eagles" along the Danube, Vistula, Oder and other rivers, such landings can be thrown that the Airborne Forces will not drop!

Trim sturgeon, comrade several times. The range of the Bison is 300 miles (550 km rough), the range of the Moray is 200 miles (370 km). And given the fact that you need to go back and back - it is necessary to reduce another 2 times. Get a radius of 270 and 180 km. And where are you going to land troops on such ships? From Sevastopol on the limit of "Bison" to Odessa will reach. All other ports - Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey - only on condition that the trip will be one way ...

[1vlad19]

Quote: Old26

All other ports - Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey - only on condition that the trip will be one way ...

In theory, it was, 8 “Muren” make a throw at Japan, capture the bridgehead, consider two personnel, 240 fighters, the rest of the APCs, T-64 tanks. Hold on to the approach of the main forces, and there the tanker will do if the diesel is not found.

[Xscorpion]

Quote: Old26

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Will they swim to California? It’s a pity there isn’t enough fuel ... And so it would be great to have a fleet of such "unexpected" ... But all coasts of European seas - available!

Given that UKRAINE - CE EUROPEthen yes, available.
To Odessa to the limit, but it will reach and will return back .. To Constance, Varna, Istanbul - it will reach, but only one way

Quote: bouncyhunter

Too many Borisov visited. His mouth and honey to slurp ...

Paul! This is the same yap as Rogozin. If you look at what he was broadcasting as deputy defense minister - EARS ARE DRAWN.. PR knows how perfectly. And what is not promoted if you are not responsible for what has been said ...

Quote: Zubr

I’m interested in the further fate of the issue of the Samok and Bora RTOs. Will these beauties be released yet?

The silence is utter. It would be better to let out the path than to broadcast about ekranoplans. Well, "Bison" and "Moray" is SMALL landing ships. tactical landing. Here it is possible to land an landing in the south of Ukraine, in Georgia or the Baltic states with the help of such KVP. And for more serious distances, they are not suitable

Quote: sib.ataman

On such "Bison" and "Murenakh" to the rear of the NATO "Eagles" along the Danube, Vistula, Oder and other rivers, such landings can be thrown that the Airborne Forces will not drop!

Trim sturgeon, comrade several times. The range of the Bison is 300 miles (550 km rough), the range of the Moray is 200 miles (370 km). And given the fact that you need to go back and back - it is necessary to reduce another 2 times. Get a radius of 270 and 180 km. And where are you going to land troops on such ships? From Sevastopol on the limit of "Bison" to Odessa will reach. All other ports - Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey - only on condition that the trip will be one way ...

This is at maximum speed. At cruising speed, the range will be a couple of times larger.

[Old26]

Quote: Xscorpion

This is at maximum speed. At cruising speed, the range will be a couple of times larger.

No, not at maximum. In relation to the Bison, they always write that he has a maximum speed of 63 knots, and has a range of 300 miles at a speed of 55 knots. For the "Moray" it is respectively 55 knots and a range of 200 miles at 50 knots. This is most likely cruising speed. In none of their resources with respect to the DC did the VP meet the mention of cruising speed.
I would be extremely grateful to you, Eugene, if you give a link to such a mention in relation to the cruising speed for CPV

[1vlad19]

I don’t know how the “Bison” is, but the “Murena” does not have cruising speed, there you don’t recommend a maximum of how you put a VISH, you can catch it. At the delivery of the 13th order, the speed was about 100, the armored personnel carrier on board, the Murena flew up into the water, the armored personnel carrier tore off the mounts, in the cockpit a hydraulic shock, the sailor and the equipment were delayed from the factory, the equipment was caught through the ramp, the sailor was not found. Then the repair. In general, the 13th order is the most unlucky, and the hangar was demolished and hung at the entrance of the site and the board crumpled.

[petrol cutter]

"The construction of several dozen hovercraft in the interests of the Russian Navy is provided for and included in the state armament program until 2027, said Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov."
And this can not but rejoice me as a builder of these units. So the plant will be loaded with work. And this is the most important and pleasant news to date. Because several hundred people will not die of hunger. And this is a bonus. This is already good. At least some positive.