We need to fight for our rights! Rally in Krasnodar

A rally was held in Krasnodar on 28 July against rising prices for gasoline and diesel fuel, an increase in the value-added tax rate and the so-called pension reform. The initiator of the action was the Krasnodar regional branch of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. The authorities of Krasnodar agreed to hold a rally in the Chistyakovskaya grove of the city for 3000 participants after the end of the moratorium announced for the period of the World Cup.

It was the largest rally in Krasnodar over the past ten years. About 3 thousand people gathered. It was hot in the sun. People stood on the edges of the site - in the shade of the trees, so some media looked at photos from social networks and, as usual, reported a small number of participants. Delegations from Gelendzhik, Goryachiy Klyuch, Kanevskaya, Dinskaya, Slavyansk-on-Kubani also came to the rally in Krasnodar. Accompanied the rally according to the tradition of the ambulance service and the units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of Emergency Situations.

First Secretary of the Krasnodar Regional Committee of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, State Duma deputy N.I. Osadchy stressed that people begin to overcome the “couch mood” and realize that they need to fight for their rights and interests - by all civilized means, up to the resignation of the government with its anti-people projects.

“During the month we in the Duma daily exposed the inconsistency of the government’s cannibalistic law on raising the retirement age, indicated the lack of economic and social demographic grounds, but the ruling party did not want to listen to our objections. The law 19 July was adopted, despite the resistance of the communists and other opposition deputies, in the first reading. However, our struggle after this is not over. ... We must thwart the adoption of this law, and we will win, - Completed the leader of the regional branch of the Communist Party.

On the State Duma website published list participants of the meeting, from which it follows that 17 deputies from Krasnodar region took part in the voting. Tellingly, all 13 representatives of United Russia supported the adoption of the reform. Four of our deputies (two from the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia and two from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation) came out against the bill.

The draft final resolution of the rally included not only negative evaluations of the actions of the ruling party in recent months, but also other specific slogans:

- The government, the party of power are obliged to comply with the Constitution of the Russian Federation, in article 55, prohibiting the adoption of laws that worsen the situation of citizens.

- Cancel the VAT rate increase.

- Revoke the "pension" law.

- Support the initiative of the Communist Party to hold the All-Russian referendum.

- Adopt a law on the moratorium on raising the retirement age.

- Support the adoption of the law on the establishment of a progressive scale of personal income tax.

- Cancel the regressive scale of insurance contributions, enter a flat scale (and so on).

Under the sheets of the popular survey against raising the retirement age, 3 thousand 104 signatures were collected at the rally.

On the same day, protest rallies organized by the Communist Party of the Russian Federation were held in Kuban in other cities: in Apsheronsk, Armavir, Kurganinsk, Timashevsk, Temryuk, Tuapse, Ust-Labinsk, Yeisk, Sochi, in the village of Mostovskom. Pickets were held in Novorossiysk.

Pay attention to the wide geography of the participants: the protest is going on all over the country, from Vladivostok to Kaliningrad, tens of thousands of residents of our country responded to the call. The Communists, of course, great, but this is not enough. After all, the adopted law will affect almost everyone. Not everyone has realized this yet. Our people are patient, accustomed to difficulties and hardships. He still believes everything that is shown on TV. And there we are now strongly inspired that working in old age is one sheer pleasure. Older people from the screens assure us that they do not want to stay at home in retirement and “rush into battle”, or rather, work. It is good when you shift the papers in the office from place to place or sit at the computer all day, and nobody has yet canceled the old sclerosis. And for those who are going to work on a construction site or on another physically heavy production until 65 years, how to be? Reduced reaction, vision, endurance, performance, etc. And there are also dispatchers, and drivers, and crane operators. Someone thought about them? And what pensioners will receive in return - a small increase in the pension, which inflation will increase later?

And I do not believe that there is no money for retirement in our country. I can tell you where to look for them. On fireworks and celebrations alone, so much money was thrown to the wind, just enough to increase pensions. This is our country, and only we must decide when and what to spend. What laws to take and when to retire go!

Comments

[Vard]

Three thousand ... This is a drop in the bucket ... Most do not care ... And if tomorrow pensions are canceled ... And then no one will twitch ...

[Stas157]

The Kremlin let the people let off steam and wait for everything to settle down, when everyone is tired of speaking ... And then they will hammer their victorious ball into the pocket of the people and announce pension reform. All calculated political strategists are bad! What to do? There is a short video where the girl gives interesting tips.

[Boris55]

Quote: Stas157

There is a short video where the girl gives interesting tips.

She suggests lowering Putin’s rating and thereby canceling the government’s proposal. I'm a bastard with her. I haven’t heard anything more idiotic.

[Stas157]

Good Boris, she offers at least something, but what do you offer? The rating of the president and United Russia, by the way, in the light of recent positions, has clearly not improved!

[Boris55]

Quote: Stas157

Good Boris, she offers at least something, but what do you offer?

Putin once said that he did not care about the ratings, and now, in the final presidential term - even more so. There’s Poroshenko’s 2% and not what - it steers.
Capitalists perceive only two things - power and money. Forces, in the sense of the siloviki of all structures, the people do not have i.e. the siloviki are not directly subordinate to us. There is money left. How can bourgeois profit be affected? It’s very simple - at the same time, it is not worth blocking all the country's transport arteries for at least an hour, and the issue of pension reform will disappear by itself. But is there such a force to organize all this? I doubt it. Neither the Communists nor the trade unions dare to do so.

[Boris55]

I completely forgot to mention such a proven and effective mechanism for upholding their rights by workers as strike. Unions, where are you? Awww!

[pormezan]

A sensible thought. On July 28, for the first time in my life, I went to a rally. I was interested not so much in the opportunity to express my opinion and sign something, but in the structural and organizational aspects of the meetings, as such. Where the cops get together and how the cops act, how the people behave, how the organizers of the rally behave, and, most importantly, whether there will be an opportunity to seize the initiative from the organizers and lead the crowd themselves. At the next meeting, I will stand right next to the podium and try to get a microphone and a seat on the podium. I will look at the reaction of the people to more radical proposals than what the organizers offer ....

[pormezan]

I’ll add such an interesting point. The organizers of the rally (Communist Party) began from far away, such as the Medvedev government to resign. But people at the rostrum started shouting: “Have you forgotten Putin? Putin’s absenteeism!”, Which caused the organizers to be somewhat confused and there was a short pause. Then the organizer did not boldly ask: "And you want Putin to resign?" The people confirmed. And the rally has already gone according to a different scenario. It seemed to me that the organizers of the rally had originally planned to explain to people for a long time and to reasonably lead the people to the idea that Putin and Medvelev are one team. And the people themselves immediately expressed this idea.

[Boris55]

Quote: pormezan

And the people themselves immediately expressed this idea.

Thoughts in the people themselves are born, but very rarely. If for a long time to show on TV a picture of Putin and the picture following him with Medvedev, then the people at a subconscious level will have a stable image of their inseparability. In fact, this is far from the case.
As for the cries from the crowd - with a high degree of probability that it was a pre-charged provocateur.
By and large, the Communist Party, holding rallies in the backyards, releases steam from the people, thereby acting in the interests of the bourgeois.

[KERMET]

on a subconscious level, people have long had a steady image of their inseparability, after they gave each other the reins of government

[AUL]

Quote: Boris55

As for the cries from the crowd - with a high degree of probability that it was a pre-charged provocateur.

But what is there - the whole crowd was entirely provocateurs! There were no others.

[Boris55]

Quote from AUL

But what is there - the whole crowd was entirely provocateurs! There were no others.

How to control the crowd, the ancient Egyptians realized this, watching the crickets. It is enough that a couple of three crickets would begin to glow in time with the glade, as the whole glade came to life and all the others together echoed to them. Something similar happens at concerts when a couple of other bribed spectators start to laugh out loud or clap their hands, as others start to do the same. This is the psyche of the crowd. The man in it does not belong to himself.

[DED_peer_DED]

About "thoughts in the people", are you telling jokes.

[naidas]

Quote: Boris55

If for a long time to show on TV the picture of Putin and the picture of Medvedev following him, then the people at a subconscious level will have a stable image of their inseparability. In fact, this is far from the case.

We have before 2014, rarely on what fence was Putin-Kaput written!

[DED_peer_DED]

I’ve already written on TV for 7 years - "Telik - Kaput", like the rest of the "PRO propaganda".

[cradle]

.... girl, and you could love the radical ... For what?

[DED_peer_DED]

Let him take an interest in his "rating" in the heavenly office. Or a five in the face just like that, leads, for the sake of order?

[dmlescs]

That is, it’s better to blurt out nonsense, but just to offer something? I know what to offer: with a full salary, pay taxes and deduct them to a pension, but give birth to children.

[White and fluffy]

I agree with the girl. When the rating falls, the president becomes illegitimate, with him the entire vertical of Vasti collapses.

[DED_peer_DED]

"Wisdom" of the girl, rolls over.
"Rating, electorate, artificial intelligence, casting, pasting, long ..."

[Olgovich]

Quote: Vard

Three thousand ... This is a drop in the bucket ... Most do not care ..

Many people understand that in a rapidly aging in a country where the number of pensioners is growing, and the number of employees is also decreasing, raising the retirement age is inevitable and does not depend on desire, unwillingness.
They have already raised it among the neighbors-Belarus and Moldova — and the world has not collapsed and no one has died: this is being introduced gradually, over the course of many years. Unpleasant, but inevitable.

[dSK]

Quote: Olgovich

it is introduced gradually over the course of so many years.

Pension reform is inevitable - life expectancy in Russia is growing, but retirement age growth should not overtake her.
Gaidarites bring people to the "white heat" twisting nuts. Russia's resources allow you to do smooth increase in retirement age. We must learn from the positive experience of other countries - for example, Germany.
To carry out the first stage - an increase of three months per year to 63/58, it will take 12 years.
Second phase - one month per year increase for men and two for women - until 64/60, it will take another 12 years.

[dSK]

a rally against rising gas and diesel prices, raising the value added tax rate and the so-called pension reform.

July 30 - RIA Novosti. Bloomberg Agency compiled a rating of countries with the cheapest and most expensive AI-95 gasoline in the world. WITHThe cheapest fuel is sold in Venezuela, where a liter of gasoline costs less than $ 0,01. In second place is Iran with a price of 0.28 dollars, Kuwait closed the first three with an indicator of 0,35 dollars per liter.
The top ten countries with the cheapest gasoline also included Nigeria ($ 0,41), Egypt ($ 0,43), Saudi Arabia ($ 0,54), Malaysia ($ 0,54), Indonesia ($ 0,67) , United Arab Emirates ($ 0,68) and Russia (0,72 dollars).
According to rating the most expensive gasoline in the world in Hong Kong ($ 2,09), Norway ($ 2,02) and the Netherlands ($ 1,93). The top ten also included Greece (1,91 dollars), Italy (1,91 dollars), Denmark (1,90 dollars), Israel (1,86 dollars), Portugal (1,83 dollars), Finland (1,79 dollars) and France (1,78 dollars).

[Stas157]

Quote from dsk

Pension reform is inevitable

This is what they are trying to inspire us with about the powerful political technologists. Although money for a beggarly pension from the budget has always been spent too little, but on the state apparatus and the power block, too much, by the standards of other countries.

Quote from dsk

life expectancy in Russia is growing, but the growth of the retirement age should not overtake it

The USSR had about the same life expectancy, but even the plans did not raise the retirement age! On the contrary, there was a vector for fewer working hours, and more free time for creativity and self-development.

Quote from dsk

According to the rating, the most expensive gasoline in the world in Hong Kong ($ 2,09), Norway ($ 2,02) and the Netherlands ($ 1,93).

Is there a country in your ranking of countries with the most expensive gasoline that would pay such a meager average salary of $ 500?

[Boris55]

Quote: Stas157

On the contrary, there was a vector for fewer working hours, and more free time for creativity and self-development.

Stalin wanted to make an 5-hour working day - he did not have time ...

[Vadim237]

And what do you think in dollars - in Russia, the turnover in rubles.

[igorbrsv]

"Does your rating of countries with the most expensive gasoline include a country where you would pay such a meager average salary of $ 500?"
Cuba

[DED_peer_DED]

With "our" wealth, the conversation should not have begun at all.

[kitt409]

This is gradually introduced in us ?? (((
Alas, but gradually, if it were now reported that such a year of birth, well, let it be 2000, would retire at that age ...
And what they did is figuratively speaking with a butt on the head
and even for the umpteenth time - did you try to use other sources of PFR filling at first?
And as for many who supposedly understand - they probably don’t know, just haven’t heard about the alternatives, and the box does its job - they tell us there regularly and constantly that it’s almost 90 to work, it’s good (, just get a job as a janitor and don’t after 45 you’ll be tired of looking for a guard ...

[Olgovich]

Quote: kitt409

This is gradually introduced in us ?? (((
Alas, but gradually, if it were now reported that such a year of birth, well, let it be 2000, would retire at that age ...
And what they did is figuratively speaking with a butt on the head

Have you read the bill? Is provided gradual transition from 2019 to 2034 year.
Those. every year, starting in 1919, they will gradually raise a penny. age on half-year.
In 2019, they will not retire at 60, but at 60,5 years, etc.

[kitt409]

what gradual in my understanding, I already wrote ...
And if about the old one it would be published in 2022–60, then now already in 2026, at 64, how much money will NOT be paid during this time? How many extra taxes are paid?
Continue to continue?

[Olgovich]

Quote: kitt409

And if about the old one it would be published in 2022–60, then now already in 2026, at 64, how much money will NOT be paid during this time? How many extra taxes are paid?
Continue to continue?

On the contrary, it is from 2022 you would be paid money, which is nowhere to take, and you would not pay well-deserved taxes.
And money Nowhere to takebecause working, filling the budget, less and less, and pensioners, all MORE. Who will replace the departed today to pay taxes? And no one. Did you learn math?
Although you privatize and divide all the derivatives, well, delay the inevitable for a year, two ... Then there will be the SAME thing.

[kitt409]

Do not tell me what I deserve and what not, I need to know what cannot be said about you ...
and tell your arithmetic to someone else, rush with her like someone with something, have you tried to calculate differently? The answer is known - you have not tried and are NOT going to try, which is the main thing.
I know a little more about this than you would like, so leave your mantras about arithmetic)
And then I’ll start asking questions -
Why is there no progressive tax introduced?
Why are pension contributions essentially paid only by those who earn 60 or less?
Why is the percentage of salary taken into account in the pension of an official at times almost more than that of a worker?
why do deputies get the right to retire after five years of work and its size is about 40?
why are the costs to the PFR itself and its staff, often a good accountant would be enough, and those who work there would come in with a colleague a couple of times, look through a lip 0 a colleague freaked out, went out into the corridor and called his classmate, deputy governor, as cockroaches ran in, coffee began to offer)))
to ask about the palaces of the pfr?)
P.S. I have all these dances with a tambourine almost to the door — I’m military penniless and quite a while ago, BUT I don’t care what happens next, with my wife, children, and we will not let our authorities know that she has played too much - they will definitely try to introduce serfdom. ..
So I’ll go to rallies, and the elections are just in September, and something else, I’m not going to decipher here ...
And you continue to write how everything is bad with arithmetic then

[Olgovich]

Quote: kitt409

And then I’ll start asking questions -
Why is there no progressive tax introduced?

This will NOT abolish the rapid aging of the population and the reduction of taxpayers. of the population

Quote: kitt409

Why are pension contributions essentially paid only by those who earn 60 or less?

This will NOT abolish the rapid aging of the population and the reduction of taxpayers. of the population

Quote: kitt409

Why is the percentage of salary taken into account in the pension of an official at times almost more than that of a worker?

This will NOT abolish the rapid aging of the population and the reduction of taxpayers.

Quote: kitt409

why do deputies get the right to retire after five years of work and its size is about 40?
why are the costs to the PFR itself and its staff, often a good accountant would be enough, and those who work there would come in with a colleague a couple of times, look through a lip 0 a colleague freaked out, went out into the corridor and called his classmate, deputy governor, as cockroaches ran in, coffee began to offer)))
to ask about the palaces of the pfr?)

This will NOT abolish the rapid aging of the population and the reduction of taxpayers.
Sell ​​at least all the palaces of the PFR, fire all the employees there, dispossess all the oligarchs-This will NOT abolish the rapid aging of the population and the reduction of taxpayers. and the need for reform.
And she will be. And nothing bad will happen.

Quote: kitt409

and we won’t let our authorities understand that she has played too much - they’ll just try to introduce serfdom ..

Serfdom was under the previous government, now-freedom.

Quote: kitt409

So I’ll go to rallies, and the elections are just in September, and something else, here I’m not going to decrypt.

Partisan?

Quote: kitt409

And you continue to write how everything is bad with arithmetic then

You are right, you are not with mathematics, you are bad with arithmetic.
But you there, hold on!

[kitt409]

You can repeat your favorite mantra, which was repeated several times here, further, that it has nothing to do with reality - Yes, when it embarrassed you and your like-minded people, this is not the first time you have been manipulating such manipulations.
Tell us further about freedom, your freedom from the series, when "... the chain of the ball was lengthened by 3 meters, freedom, BUT the bowl was moved back by 5 meters" - THIS IS YOU "FREEDOM"
But about what else I’ll do, humor me further, this does NOT bother me a single gram, only the consequences will be gloomy enough for you (all), albeit not immediately, everything has its time ...
Don’t worry, we will hold out, no matter how you and your colleagues are torn, but there will be demand - for everyone’s affairs, but you tune in there

[Olgovich]

Quote: kitt409

You can repeat your favorite mantra, which was repeated several times here, further, that she has nothing to do with reality - Yes, when it embarrassed you and your like-minded people, this is not the first time you have been manipulating such manipulations.

What does not have to do with reality - the rapid aging of the population? In your parallel reality is wrong?

Quote: kitt409

Talk about freedom further, your freedom from the series, when "... the chain was extended to the ball by 3 meters, freedom, BUT a bowl pushed back by 5 meters "- such is YOU" FREEDOM "

Remember remember this a bowl : "Communism will win!" (1917), "Communism will triumph!" (1927) "Communism will triumph!" (1937) “Communism will win!” (1953) “Communism will win!” (1965) etc.

Quote: kitt409

But about what else I’ll do, humor me further, it does NOT bother me a single gram, only the consequences will be enough gloomy for you (all) even if not immediately everything has its time...

From the "gloomy" How are you going to run away, freezing? Or according to the Dowell method?

Quote: kitt409

Don’t worry, we will hold out, no matter how you and your colleagues are torn, but there will be demand - for everyone’s affairs, but you tune in there

Quote: kitt409

Don’t worry, we will hold out, no matter how you and your colleagues are torn, but there will be demand - for everyone’s affairs, but you tune in there

You are not tired of scaring already 27 years oldsomething? And then it’s not scary.

[kitt409]

Who is frightening anyone here? The fact that most of what you have written is not understood, it’s even slightly good, emphasizes something once again, but you will be further convinced that an aging population is the only noteworthy factor)
By the way, as for the bowl, however, BUT after the war in the USSR people didn’t climb the trash bins, but now, hello - and those who you really want to eat, have tried, we have a tent not far ...
So your (all) such "freedom" is better ???

[Olgovich]

Quote: kitt409

Who's scaring anyone here?

Do not remember yourself:

Quote: kitt409

but there will be demand - for everyone’s affairs - but you tune in there

?

Quote: kitt409

By the way, as for the bowl - however that may be, BUT after the war in the USSR people didn’t climb trash bins,

1,5 million died of starvation in 1947 after the war, you are unknown, apparently.
And the hunger of the early 50s, too. And the fact that before these years they ate WORSE than in 1913
And in the early 80s cards were introduced.

Quote: kitt409

So your (all) such "freedom" is better ???

It's better, . certainly

[kitt409]

Well, your colleagues about the fact that the war has just ended, for some reason they forget - this is about 1947, 50, and similar post-war years.
about scaring - no need to substitute terminology to try to do - I warn, and nothing more
And about the cards at the BEGINNING of the eighties, I don’t need to tell tales, there were a lot of places in the middle of the eighties, there were no special problems in order to buy something ...
They appeared later, thanks to your favorite reformers)
You think that now freedom is your opinion and your right to think so, I have a different opinion ...

[kitt409]

By the way, the “need for reform” is NOT the need to raise the retirement age, how much more can there be, BUT you (all) are silent on this subject as partisans, well, keep silent

[kitt409]

Once again, write your main mantra, for reliability)
As for whether there will be reform, the future will show)))
And you continue to write your main postulate, though it’s almost has nothing to do with reality, but when you and your colleagues were embarrassed, you might think you (all) are doing these forts the first time)
And about what I’m going to do, humorize further, but only the consequences will be tired of raking a little later, with your whole team of like-minded people)
So you there - get ready.

[Olgovich]

Quote: kitt409

So you there - get ready.

And you hold on there!

[kitt409]

Everything will be fine with us, do not worry

[cradle]

Are you inadequate? The person asked you normal questions, you tried to get him sick, without normal counterarguments. You also have the audacity to make some diagnoses ... oversleep and stop there already clinging to any garbage there.

[kitt409]

By the way, there is no place to take about money - they will carry out smaller grandiose projects, Universiades, championships, now they are planning to build a second Yeltsin center in Moscow, and everything is enough from the budget !!

[saigon]

Sorry, dear Andrew, by golly.
Probably it should be considered how many years it will take for men, and this is not like 2034. Well, an increase for women for 8 years is not disgusting, it's a meanness. And the whole way of introducing reform is rather scanty under the guise.
And it doesn’t matter how many years they want to stretch, it is important that the state tries to throw off social guarantees.
Well, after stupid agitation for increasing the age to work, there is a persistent disgust and not trust.
But trust is no longer an accounting category, it’s don’t buy it, sell it and roll it back, it’s already moral categories and the sellers are bad with that.
The deceiving person will lie again, and here the hardworking confidence is destroyed to the government, to the food system deputies.
Now any words, any, the most truthful truth will be perceived as a lie.
Now the arguments do not work, they do not perceive the moral breakdown of society is very large.
It’s sad.

[Olgovich]

Quote: saigon

Sorry, dear Andrew, by golly.
Probably it should be considered how many years it will take for men, and this is not like 2034. Well, an increase for women for 8 years is not disgusting, it's a meanness. And the whole way of introducing reform is rather scanty under the guise.
And it doesn’t matter how many years they want to stretch, it is important that the state tries to throw off social guarantees.

NO money, because youth is NOT. There is no one to work and fill the budget with taxes.
In the West a long time ago 67 years on retire. And also, not from a good life.

[saigon]

As far as I remember you are a monarchist and very able to reasonably express your thoughts.
As a monarchist you must understand the Empire was ruined by the same that we see this hour.
The absence of taxes as such is one vodka monopoly, and the elite (the real then elite, and not the current characters) did not pay taxes.
Not the jurisdiction of a part of society, embezzlement of war and of course the war.
So there is no money. And about no one to work with, too, is not true. Having such a fiscal apparatus, the state for some reason is not able to destroy gray schemes in remuneration, the question is why.
Well, arguing about trying to get away from the social responsibility of the state is not possible.

[Olgovich]

Quote: saigon

As a monarchist you must understand the Empire was ruined by the same that we see this hour.

There is no connection at all: then there was the most terrible war in the history of mankind.

Quote: saigon

No taxes as such, one vodka monopoly, and the elite (and the real then elite, and not the current characters) did not pay taxes.

There were taxes.

Quote: saigon

Non jurisdiction of a part of society

In the Republic of Ingushetia there was a judicial system, the standards of which have not been reached so far (we will not even mention the Middle Ages of social times)

Quote: saigon

So there is no money. And about no one to work, too, is not true

Not youth, no money. There is such a dependency. And the youth was given by the Russian village, which had been destroyed for 70 years. Here is the result.

Quote: saigon

Well, arguing about trying to get away from the social responsibility of the state is not possible.

Yes, it is impossible to deny that the state is doing everything possible in terms of social protection of citizens. With all the flaws, inertness, dullness, etc.: the general vector is
And if you compare this side in Russia with your neighbors, then you will be convinced of this.
PS I'm not a monarchist, where did you get that?

[kitt409]

"... it is impossible to deny that the state is doing everything possible in terms of social protection of citizens. With all the flaws, inertness, dullness, etc.: the general vector is ..." (c) - ingenious, Karl, medicine almost all of them have already been “optimized”, they drove all education not even under the baseboard, and IT is called that this “state” does everything
I can only wish you personally to go to school more often and also go to the clinic regularly, and do not forget to write your impressions here ...

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Olgovich

Many people understand that in a rapidly aging country, where the number of pensioners is growing, and the number of employees is also decreasing, raising the retirement age is inevitable and does not depend on desire-unwillingness.

many do not seem to understand that they are robbing us, and "pouring" into our ears, in Moldova and Belarus, the same natural resources? Yes, there is almost no such resource-rich country and such a poor simple people, from which the ghouls who have usurped all resources still tear and tear .... they need little, they also need to die faster. are the covenants of the magaret thatcher fulfilled? you are deaf-deaf.

[DED_peer_DED]

We are scum. And they prove it to us once again.
What kind of reforms are there?

[Olgovich]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

many do not seem to understand that they are robbing us, and "pouring" into our ears, in Moldova and Belarus, the same naturale resources? Yes, there is almost no such resource-rich country and such a poor simple people, from which the ghouls who have usurped all resources still tear and tear .... they need little, they also need to die faster. are the marquets of the thatcher fulfilled? you are deaf-deaf.

For 70 years the resources have been "with the people." And the peasants caught up with the city in retirement 1990 g . And before that or practically had no (until 1964, in my opinion) or received in times less and on exit went to 65 years (see articles on VO recently). And demographics were OK.
The oligarchs robbed?

[DED_peer_DED]

I propose to cancel childbirth as a phenomenon.
Let after that all the "neighbors" take an example from us.
With the "extra population" must - end. The birth tax is 2500000 rubles; the death benefit is 10000000 rubles. Here is the "solution" (in the sense of resolving), the problems of excess population.

[user]

Already raised by the neighbors-Belarus and Moldova-and the world did not collapse and no one died

But in our country there are other starting conditions, why let us not introduce a state monopoly on alcohol, but income in the pension system (they still complain that there is not enough money).

For example, in Sweden, which also does not shine with demographic records, they also decided to raise the retirement age by 1 year. For the first time, by the way in its history, and for several years now they have been discussing and discussing this topic, they simply do not want a split in the country, as they say, the trust of the citizens of their country in power is earned over the years, and you can lose it by just a draft of this kind of law.
It is after such actions that the states collapse, even if not immediately, the power loses the support of the people. Remember how quickly Gorbachev lost confidence, remember the first meetings of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR, broadcast on television, because they watched until the morning, and in the morning at work. Well, and how many people came to the defense of the Supreme Council in 1993 after losing this confidence.
So our story is still to come.

[populist]

Vard
Three thousand ... This is a drop in the bucket ... Most do not care ... And if tomorrow pensions are canceled ... And then no one will twitch ...

Most do not care and almost no one supports raising the retirement age. But people do not understand their rights and opportunities. The communists know the power of the masses and call for a struggle for their interests.

[97110]

Quote: populist

The communists know the power of the masses and call for a struggle for their interests.

This is the husband of a woman who was shot dead in Kiev, a former deputy of the State Duma from the Communist Party? Well, such communists call for a fight for their interests. Well, it's better than none. Is it only their name? Or led cancer for a stone? Who is interested in some three thousand of some signatures? Yes, the owner will begin to write boiling water if he has 150 cars at the station, and the team leader left for the warehouse in a forklift. And if another five ships are waiting for loading, the owners are sharply getting smarter. Why the Communist Party does not know about this?

[DED_peer_DED]

How much income does the “communist" Zyuganov have per year?

[Katran]

Yes, it is not so important how much he has there per year (for sure a lot). The important thing is that not a single real communist is visible. One "props" some ...

[DED_peer_DED]

Review the movie "Communist."
There he is - the real one!

[naidas]

Quote: populist

Communists know the power of the masses and call for the struggle

They’re not calling for a fight, but to give them votes for which they give money. I will assume that the majority rulers killed the candidate chosen by them, against everyone, and now they have not only no party expressing their interests, but even one representative.
Although if there will be an opportunity I will vote for Poklonskaya.

[DED_peer_DED]

She is a sweetheart.
She has thin lips.

[yawa63]

For Krasnodar, during the holiday season and in such heat it was very good, and even more there ...

[KLV2018]

Quote: Vard

Three thousand ... This is a drop in the bucket ... Most do not care ... And if tomorrow pensions are canceled ... And then no one will twitch ...

most people turned into a dumb herd.
the zombie man does his job.

[Boris55]

Quote: KLV2018

most people turned into a dumb herd.

This monologue in the video is nothing more than an excerpt from the US National Security Council Directive 20 / 1 of 18 on August 1948. More details: http://www.sakva.ru/Nick/NSC_20_1R.html
Original text: http://www.sakva.ru/Nick/NSC_20_1.html
The original text in raw form (pictures from the scanner): http://www.sakva.ru/Nick/NSC_20_1.zip

[igorbrsv]

Everyone understands everything and almost everyone is against this pension reform. According to the zombie creator, too, no one will be confused for a long time with anyone's head. In the nineties they taught the truth to separate from lies. Nobody believes in ostentatious pensioners either. We need not only suggestions on what to do, but also organizers, and preferably without shocks for the country. The Communist Party at least collects signatures in the framework of the law. And while we are sitting on the couch.

[Opera]

Well, the fact that the Communist Party is clear! What is against is also clear, the Communist Party will always be against! Communist Party in general, as is known against a multi-party system for example! The Communist Party is only for when the country has one Communist Party! Then let someone just try to be against the will of the party and government! There were precedents, including with shooting at the discontented remember! Would you then call your comrades to strikes, as now and here, it would not seem enough! And the fact that the Communist Party’s slogans and banners revealing this, too, are all clear! They have such slogans all the way !!! And they offer what ?! WHAT? Just do not raise and that's it ?! Well, they would have collected more signatures in support of the Belarusian brothers chtol whose already raised ?! Well, honestly, it's all a bit small! They don’t fight for world peace! Neighbors are not supported, Lukashenko resigned, etc. They do not want to fight against private property either! And most importantly, they don’t offer anything! That is the problem! It is necessary to decide! But the Communists just do not need anything! Just against and that's it!

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Oper

! Just against and that's it!

and you, the “opera” just goes “for”, too, without arguments ... because they are not ... no, Sechin has them, and Siluanova ... are you for them?

[Opera]

I for what ?! Is it necessary to raise the retirement age? It is necessary of course. And there are plenty of arguments already! Repeat? You, Andrei Yuryevich, still will not believe the Russian argument! I have no doubt about this from the experience of reading your previous comments! You will talk with Belarusians, can you with other comrades from nearby and not so states why did you raise your retirement age there? So there will be an argument, let's talk. It is not a matter of raising or not. The thing is how? Well, if you just have to do it, so please too. Only in the manner prescribed by law. Otherwise, the consequences will come.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Oper

And most importantly, they don’t offer anything!

Have you ever wondered what the Communists are offering?

[DED_peer_DED]

In 2017, authorities in Moscow were negotiating with the International Monetary Fund.
The negotiations were attended by economists, representatives of the Central Bank of Russia, members and representatives of the Russian government.
Representatives of the IMF insisted and included in the final documents of the negotiations the condition of MANDATORY pension reform in Russia. Here is verbatim from the IMF Country Report No. 17/197: quote
“And finally, over time, more significant budget savings can be achieved through parametric reform of the pension system. . ” end of quote.
Paragraph 16 of this report states, I quote further, “

16. The authorities are committed to fiscal consolidation.

Although the approval of the pension reform can only happen some time after the presidential election, they discussed three sets of measures that can be considered: i) raising and leveling the retirement age established by law; ii) reduction of retirement benefits in case of early retirement; iii) reduction of pension payments for pensioners who have not reached the mandatory retirement age. ”
end of quote.
So, that's where these legs come from!

[Opera]

And what kind of cooperation between Russia and the IMF is please explain if it’s not difficult for you? And what kind of documents are these in which the IMF insisted ...))) Only please answer yourself without retyping the essence of the liberal press! They are something like they should be happy, IMF zhezh !!!))))) And also with the Communists rally against their go ?! Wow!)

[DED_peer_DED]

I answer the requests of citizens.
All I can is RIA Katyusha website, article - "The IMF and the World Bank are the main ideologists and organizers of the" pension reform "
Do not give thanks ...
This site is clearly "liberal."

For the photo, it’s also not worth it, thanks ...

[Opera]

Then, at the request of citizens, ask who Tsyganov and Milonov are!))))) And also at the request of citizens ... though ... well, just ask what media monitoring is ?! )))) And, what is being done for this purpose from time to time ... And most importantly, try next time to find not just the source, but the primary source of the information provided and people will probably reach out to you!))))) About the relationship between the Russian Federation and the IMF In fact, by the way, you did not deign to answer.
Photo of Putin and Logard probably should have served as a "murderous" compromising material ?!)))) They smiled. Twice. Continue?

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Oper

Then, at the request of citizens, take an interest in who are the Gypsies and Milons!

Excuse me ... "We did not serve with them ..."

Quote: Oper

media monitoring

I love beautiful and non-Russian words, but in moderation.
I remember there was one with a birthmark ...
Here, I loved the words of the enemy ....
True, he pronounced them with a Kuban-Stavropol accent, but he still knew where and how to apply it!
As a calprom, I (think so ...) had to post indecent photos and audio recordings?
I don’t have them ...
Weak, I repent ...

[Opera]

Better repent, and don't fool people! Everything is more useful! Kikabidze, too, as you know, is on the other side of Russian patriotics! You didn’t think at all ...))))))) Be already vigilant at the post!))))) You have written on the avatar ...

[DED_peer_DED]

Kikabidze - (a very unreasonable person) (otherwise the site does not miss ...)
But the movie is good.
Or am I here, wrong?
Do you like the movie?
Toka, honestly ...

[aszzz888]

... and the pensioners drive Kisilev’s happiness through the mailbox)) ... the government is trying with all its might to push its ideas about raising the retirement age, and it’s not worth the price)) ...

[atalef]

Quote: aszzz888

... and on the box they drive the Kisilev happiness of pensioners)) ...the government is trying hard to push their ideas about raising the retirement age, and there’s no cost to it)) ...

Are you all flying in the clouds?
and the word is what they found --- to push.
the word crush provides resistance from the second side.
And who will resist if the EP has a qualified majority in the Duma?
This is called not push, but hold.
And not trying, but conducting.
And of course he will, and all this you have achieved yourself. The main thing is not to undermine the vertical and * the opposition * - here it is a scarecrow for Russia.
Well - the elected president and parliament (and by an absolute majority) - solves the urgent problems of voters.
(this doesn’t concern you personally, but it’s a very topic)

[aszzz888]

atalef (alexander) Today, 06: 14

Are you all flying in the clouds?

... still not - I walk on the ground, I’m not a flying Misha ...

This is called not pushing, but conducting. And not trying, but conducting.

... maybe you’ll start treating yours there in skullcaps ... Yes, and I, as it does not need to study History at all)) ... so it's better there, at home, in a quiet head on the wall ...

[Rust]

Quote: Vard

Three thousand ... This is a drop in the bucket ... Most do not care ... And if tomorrow pensions are canceled ... And then no one will twitch ...

This is not a drop, it is three thousand citizens.

[atalef]

Quote: Rust

Quote: Vard

Three thousand ... This is a drop in the bucket ... Most do not care ... And if tomorrow pensions are canceled ... And then no one will twitch ...

This is not a drop, it is three thousand citizens.

it's far to xnumx%

[DED_peer_DED]

Drawn 76%.

[97110]

Quote: Rust

This is not a drop, it is three thousand citizens.

I recall Sundays for the fight against the Maidan, held in the Donbass, until the APU artillery was brought up. So they could go to Russia ... And where are we going?

[rotmistr60]

Fighting for your rights is of course necessary. The main thing is that everything went peacefully, but whoever is not trying to saddle the skate of pension reform and earn political dividends solely for himself.

[atalef]

Quote: rotmistr60

or someone who just doesn’t try to saddle the skate of pension reform and earn political dividends solely for himself.

and any movement needs to be led and, of course, at the same time, someone will earn political dividends for themselves.
But there is no other way.

[Boris55]

Quote: rotmistr60

The main thing is that everything goes peacefully ...

[mavrus]

Quote: Olgovich

Quote: Vard

Three thousand ... This is a drop in the bucket ... Most do not care ..

Many people understand that in a rapidly aging in a country where the number of pensioners is growing, and the number of employees is also decreasing, raising the retirement age is inevitable and does not depend on desire, unwillingness.
They have already raised it among the neighbors-Belarus and Moldova — and the world has not collapsed and no one has died: this is being introduced gradually, over the course of many years. Unpleasant, but inevitable.

It is necessary to raise the retirement age, and not to rip off the population once again. But for some reason, a handful of loafers and grabbers (deputies and bureaucrats) do not see any difference in this.

[Boris55]

Quote: mavrus

It is necessary to raise the retirement age, and not to rip off the population once again.

Scientists have long calculated that everyone on the planet would live as an average European, it is enough for each of us to work 20 minutes a day. Now think about who and why you need to raise the retirement age.
And the population may not be worried - as they appointed a salary from the ceiling, they will appoint it from there.

[Loess]

Quote: Boris55

Scientists have long calculated that everyone on the planet would live as an average European, it is enough for each of us to work 20 minutes a day.

British scientists? Oh something I don’t trust them ...

[Boris55]

Quote: Less

British scientists? Oh something I don’t trust them ...

Persuaded - an hour a day

[igorbrsv]

It is likely that if everyone works and the income is divided equally, and socialism has already been built

[97110]

Quote: mavrus

(deputies and bureaucrats)

Please note that in the country THIRTY SIX YEARS capitalism, and the main enemies - the deputies and bureaucrats! That is, bourgeois - white and fluffy, deputies are bad? Officials are especially bad, they should even be called bureaucrats. All hope for the Sechins and Rotenbergs, they work hard for the prosperity of Russia, they do not sleep at night, they are malnourished, lack of sleep, they only drink tea. Stalin couldn’t, but Putin with his friends could!

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: 97110

All hope for the Sechins and Rotenbergs

So, are they our Russians?

[kitt409]

You bent a little, capitalism began in 1985, the April plenum, i.e. 15 plus 18 seems to be 33, but it’s NOT the main thing - capitalists can ONLY offend their workers, and even then not all, but the bureaucrats and deputies are capable, and most importantly, regularly do this, offend and infringe on ALL, they pass laws, here and all the difference and all the explanations ...

[olimpiada15]

19110 "ie, the bourgeois and the fluffy, the deputies are bad?
Why are you separating deputies from the bourgeoisie? Deputies are the spokesmen of the interests of those who paid them the election campaign, of course, as reckoning, lobbying for the interests of the bourgeois. The election of deputies is a lack of choice for the people, because the deputies are not chosen to protect the vital interests of the people and the state has developed. The electoral system itself is designed in such a way that the opinion of voters is not taken into account: 4% came - the elections were held, the voter could not express any protest, and therefore the column “against all” was removed in order to legitimize bourgeois proteges. The people have a small choice of the bourgeoisie to give preference to, for a variety of artists, athletes add. There is a joke: Zhurova is offered to become a coach of a football team; she refuses, says that she understands nothing in football, but she also does not understand anything in the laws, but does not refuse to become a deputy. Artists-athletes have nothing to do in the deputies; they are, by and large, a servant of the bourgeois. Deputies should be those who work with the people - industrial and agricultural producers, teachers, doctors.

[97110]

Quote: olimpiada15

19110 "ie, the bourgeois and the fluffy, the deputies are bad?
The people have little choice

struggle with the bourgeoisie. Not for life, but for death. And it is not at all necessary to replace the goal - the power of the bourgeoisie - with their mercenaries. And so it is clear that everyone will have to beat: hired lawyers and drafted soldiers, hired killers and fooled "loyal subjects." Not so easy to get to the residents of London and Miami. They won’t even clamped a visa to Abramovich. But it will not be otherwise!

[parusnik]

Drop by drop and the ocean .... drop by drop - close the tap ...

[kitt409]

For how long?
and it will turn out better or worse from this, it reminds closing of a boiler lid boiling ...

[97110]

Quote: kitt409

resembles closing the lid of a boiling boiler ...

Boilers have a safety valve, not the 19th century, thank God. Have you heard about the boiler explosion? I was the last time in 1977, a friend told me about the explosion of a boiler on a steam booth. By analogy with an aerial bomb turned up by a floating crane, which blew up the body of the same scow, in the first case, the team made mental efforts to explode the boiler. The add-in with the team did not survive ...

[kitt409]

In life, yes, but in politics, as in our case, this is an interesting question ...

[prior]

The pension reform itself is not even terrible, but the consequences to which it will lead. And it will lead to the extinction and reduction of the country's population. On attempts to develop Russia, you can put a bold cross. The deceased and the unborn do not need money, no pensions, no salaries, no benefits.
The IMF achieved what it wanted - popular unrest, growing chaos, reduction of "unnecessary population", general degradation. And let the Duma continue to honor the American senators, imposing sanctions on Russia, and kiss the gums with the moldy IMF boss, Christine Logard.
And not the pension system needs to be changed, but the power system. The people should have power, not the power of the people ...
Enough of capitalism, fed up to nausea ...

[parusnik]

Yeah ... the veneration of American senators showed who is the boss in Russia ... And the media is drowning ... the confrontation between the two superpowers ... yeah ..

[DED_peer_DED]

Confrontation of 2 "sets" of families. For mastering the resources.

[97110]

Quote: prior

And not the pension system needs to be changed, but the power system. The people should have power, not the power of the people ...
Enough of capitalism, fed up to nausea ...

Assign the Communists? Under the banner of the murdered Voronenkov? Rallies are organized in 3000 people every Saturday in every provincial city, smaller regional centers - 100 people are enough. And, most importantly, do not touch the bourgeois, only bureaucrats! We tear these into pieces, do not mind. The hosts will give new ...

[DED_peer_DED]

In 2017, authorities in Moscow were negotiating with the International Monetary Fund.
The negotiations were attended by economists, representatives of the Central Bank of Russia, members and representatives of the Russian government.
Representatives of the IMF insisted and included in the final documents of the negotiations the condition of MANDATORY pension reform in Russia. Here is verbatim from the IMF Country Report No. 17/197: quote
“And finally, over time, more significant budget savings can be achieved through parametric reform of the pension system. . ” end of quote.
Paragraph 16 of this report states, I quote further, “

16. The authorities are committed to fiscal consolidation.

Although the approval of the pension reform can only happen some time after the presidential election, they discussed three sets of measures that can be considered: i) raising and leveling the retirement age established by law; ii) reduction of retirement benefits in case of early retirement; iii) reduction of pension payments for pensioners who have not reached the mandatory retirement age. ”
end of quote.
So, that's where these legs come from!

[White and fluffy]

Vlad, I approve the comment !!!

[Valery Gagarin]

Quote: Vard

Three thousand ... This is a drop in the bucket ... Most do not care ... And if tomorrow pensions are canceled ... And then no one will twitch ...

This is an indicator. No one would come to support the actions of the president and the government with a thought without coercion. Now think whether it is a lot or a little. If 100 had come, I do not rule out that a revolution would have begun and the pogroms of the power offices, probably.

[andranick]

Good photos, the right angle is our everything. In fact, it didn’t look so impressive. And again, the Communists acted as complete egoists, acting alone, and without making an attempt to consolidate in a single protest both other political movements, and non-partisans, with the goal of showing truly massive and popular protest. It was not a rally (in Krasnodar), but a PR of pure water, no more. Even more disappointed in the Communist Party.

[Katran]

You say a good photographer, well, well, especially when the people haven’t gathered yet ...

[andranick]

Quote: Katran

when the people have not yet gathered

I affirm that half an hour after the start of the rally it was. Before the podium - about a thousand protesters. And the rest (thousands and a half), who scattered under the shade, can not be called protesters, onlookers, no more. And you can nukun at your pleasure and further.

[Katran]

Yes, the author writes “It was hot in the sun. People stood at the edges of the site - in the shade of the trees ...” Here the south, and not Moscow what, under the sun you can sunbathe. Here people in the shadow and hid.

[andranick]

Katran, I was there myself, drank honey beer :)

[igorbrsv]

Well, not to the podium, they all climb. They came up with suggestions to listen, not to make a revolution.

[Indifferent]

There is a joke. He is long. I will write only the end. A government official came to the rally and told the population. (I wanted to provoke a strike). "Tomorrow we will hang you! Any questions?" A hand loomed in the crowd: “Will you use your ropes or bring it to us?”
What kind of people, such and such authorities. Therefore, we have low salaries and beggarly pensions, and the people have many rights, only on paper. Try in France to "step" on the rights of workers. Tomorrow the whole country will be on the street. And we will bring the ropes, so that they hanged on them. Joke!

[igorbrsv]

There, and so half of the country down the street for days on end, because there is no work. And the trade unions are fighting for their power. Only fight even whole days without days off

[Loess]

At fireworks and celebrations alone, so much money was thrown to the wind, which would have been enough to increase pensions.

How simple it is. Fireworks are to blame for everything. Let's ban fireworks and life will improve right away ... As before, no one thought of it ...

[kitt409]

Have you not heard about imaginative thinking?
it happens, or do you personally need to sort everything out?

[Loess]

Quote: kitt409

Have you not heard about imaginative thinking?

In the analytics section? Figurative thinking, you say?

[kitt409]

And how does analytics bother you?)

[DED_peer_DED]

Yes, figs with them, with the fireworks.
On the "GREAT" construction sites of the "century" for "friends", you can save more.

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Olgovich

Many people understand that in a rapidly aging country, where the number of pensioners is growing, and the number of employees is also decreasing, raising the retirement age is inevitable and does not depend on desire-unwillingness .

For some reason, among these "many", they are all in very orderly rows from United Russia. The professional composition of "these" is also interesting. Again, the bourgeoisie and the "law enforcers" are all. Well, what about the people? He has not grown to understanding. Yes?
The problem is primarily social, not financial. Now, this is what many are beginning to understand.

[DED_peer_DED]

Not financial. It’s just that “our” government got the people, bad, ... inappropriate, or something.
Power is good, but, here are the people, let us down ...

[Reptiloid]

Quote: Was Mammoth

Quote: Olgovich

..... the number of pensioners is growing, and the number of employees is also declining,

and". Well, what about the people? He has not grown to understanding. Yes?
The problem is primarily social, not financial ......

The problem is not completely presented. In addition to pensioners, there are still children, and they are becoming smaller than before. Demographic load has not increased.

[AleBors]

Interesting ... All kinds of political zombies were promoted ... The people let out steam. So what? Who cares at the top of all these rallies and verbiage? Trust rating? Show me the one he cares about? And who considers this rating?
So you don’t have to be naive, tough times are coming, we are preparing for survival.

[Sotskiy]

And for those who will work up to 65 years at a construction site or other physically difficult production, what should they do? Reduced reaction, vision, endurance, performance, etc.

Everyone forgot, and the government does not publicly resemble (Skvortsova generally decided that everything have live 120 years), but requires: “The Labor Code of the Russian Federation” dated December 30.12.2001, 197 N 19.07.2018-FZ (as amended on July XNUMX, XNUMX)
Article 213. Medical examinations of certain categories of workers are mandatory annual, and for some professions and more than once a year, medical examination.
I’m wondering, will the authorities now lower the requirement for the health of workers to work to death, or do we have “pence” all of them big guys, “unrooted”?
But I forgot, now we don’t have medical care, which they “optimized” to the level of “service”. At the same time, the quality of the service is "free", so to speak, tolerant and market. As they say, feel the difference. Therefore, all health problems should be solved by the employee and his employer, provided that the employee is valuable ... State, ay, where are you?
But where! God forbid, injury or death at work. Here: "Hello, government agencies!" from the police to the labor inspectorate, right up to the "closure" of managers and enterprises. Well, I agree with the "private owners" not everything complies with the Labor Code and other standards for various reasons, but where then is the alternative in the form of state enterprises with all the codes that are followed in order to provide the population of the country with "safe" work? Where? Where did the "effective reformers" divide, huh?
And these figures from EP are aware of all these "nuances", what do they increase the retirement age? That's right, they send some to the coffin, others to the bunks. But most importantly, the "guardians for the people" will get their benefit, because the "chosen and untouchable"!
What say hello to Sparta! Along the way, our “chosen ones” are all fans of science that studies artificial selection, the main object of which is man, and, if simpler, eugenics.
Someone smart said that capitalism always leads to fascism in one form or another. Is this not what we are already observing in our country?

[DED_peer_DED]

Just in the clinics you need to enter the age limit. And the doorman from the former in the "organs" put on the door.
But, in general ... for ideas, please.
I have them - the sea.

[Altona]

Quote: Vard

Three thousand ... This is a drop in the bucket ... Most do not care ... And if tomorrow pensions are canceled ... And then no one will twitch ...

-----------------
As practice shows, to overthrow the government requires 5-10% of the population. This is not a call, it is just information for consideration. Americans believe that 3 percent of active colonists were enough to drive Britain out of the continent. Southerners even wear T-shirts with the inscription I am III%. This means that the citizen is a US patriot. Now they have flooded the article that "the protest was blown away" and all that. Do not believe it is propaganda. If the authorities were not afraid of protest, they would not drive the crowds of police and guards down to colonels into street cordons, and would not block the streets with communal cars.

[Altona]

Quote: AleBors

Interesting ... All kinds of political zombies were promoted ... The people let out steam. So what? Who cares at the top of all these rallies and verbiage? Trust rating? Show me the one he cares about? And who considers this rating?
So you don’t have to be naive, tough times are coming, we are preparing for survival.

------------------------
That is, you propose shooting at the neighbors, because the authorities have a Praetorian guard?
PS Well, you are undispersed probably a sofa zombie. See further virtual reality under the slogan of Volodin "Putin is Russia", or vice versa.

[Altona]

Quote: mavrus

It is necessary to raise the retirement age, and not to rip off the population once again. But for some reason, a handful of loafers and grabbers (deputies and bureaucrats) do not see any difference in this.

----------------------
Why raise your retirement age? Meaning? Explain.

[Altona]

Quote: andranick

And again, the Communists came out as utter egoists, acting alone, and without making an attempt to consolidate in a single protest both other political movements and non-partisan ones with the goal of showing truly massive and popular protest. It was not a rally (in Krasnodar), but a PR of pure water, no more. Even more disappointed in the Communist Party.

---------------------------
Why, protests in the country were under the flags of the Communist Party, the Left Front and the NPSR. In Moscow and other cities. Do you apparently see only what you want to see? Well, we don’t have a Left Front in the city, so what? Apparently not there either.

[Fitratovich]

Putin in one of his appearances on TV said, “We need to prepare, it will be even worse.” I thought he was talking about the West. It turned out that

[Boris55]

Quote: Fitratovich

I thought he was talking about the West. It turned out there

Present a link to the president’s direct speech.

[Puper driver]

The authorities do not give a damn about the rating. When did something depend on the people? People are remembered about when to fight. Or maybe all this is a production? Vova will repulse and then become the Eternal King!

[Whowhy]

Then everything is on the track: at one of the rallies they will shoot at the police, then the same “people” will shoot at the crowd, then the authorities will blame everything. At the next meeting, bottles of gasoline will be used .....

[Black sniper]

Quote: Olgovich

Quote: Vard

Three thousand ... This is a drop in the bucket ... Most do not care ..

Many people understand that in a rapidly aging in a country where the number of pensioners is growing, and the number of employees is also decreasing, raising the retirement age is inevitable and does not depend on desire, unwillingness.
They have already raised it among the neighbors-Belarus and Moldova — and the world has not collapsed and no one has died: this is being introduced gradually, over the course of many years. Unpleasant, but inevitable.

This is not about raising, but about a very high pension age. They would raise it to 60-61g and there would be no noise, or there would be no subduing!

[Opera]

Yes, what are you saying ?! The noise would be exactly the same as now! It's not about 60-61! The point is to escalate the atmosphere and create a revolutionary situation! Look at the slogans, down, shame, etc. Fight for your rights must be normal and constructive! Demand a more open consideration of reform, job guarantees for age-related workers, social support (possibly some kind of payments or benefits to working pensioners, etc.). But when DOLOZOZORGREBEZHVOSTAVSKU ... this is not a struggle for the people, gentlemen! This is for power! The people here are just a tool!

[DED_peer_DED]

Encyclopedic Dictionary of winged words and expressions
Compiled by Vadim Serov

Letter H

The people are silent

The final words of the last scene of the tragedy “Boris Godunov” (1825) by A. S. Pushkin (1799-1837). Boyarin Masalsky, one of the murderers of the widow of Boris Godunov and her son, announces: “People! Maria Godunova and her son Theodore poisoned themselves with poison. We saw their dead bodies. (The people are silent in horror.)[i] [/ i] Why are you silent? Shout: Long live Tsar Dimitry Ivanovich! (The people are silent.)».

Allegorically: 1. About the meek obedience of the people of power, about the lack of desire, will, courage to defend their interests. 2. On the silence of those present during the discussion of an important issue (iron.).

[MAGGNUM]

Take a look at those present, most of them are pensioners! Diluted by students who joined the Communist Party. Moreover, only a lazy person doesn’t repost a picture on the Internet, but they don’t go outside (that's good). They express dissatisfaction - nevertheless they work all the way to 70+. So what's the difference?
Ps: read the draft law from this crowd - few! And so in everything. They threw a bone and attacked it.

[Boris55]

Quote: MAGGNUM

Express dissatisfaction - nevertheless, they work all the way to 70 +

How would you decide whether we are sitting on the Internet or working? Have you been to a cemetery for a long time? Take a look at the years of the departed. Are there many 70 + among them?
Urgently studying the heritage of our great-grandfathers.

[Sotskiy]

Quote: Boris55

Have you been to a cemetery for a long time? Take a look at the years of the departed.

In this I completely agree. Entire areas of fresh graves are being added mainly by young people, and for a moment we have the largest cemetery in Europe.

[DED_peer_DED]

In relation to the people, like a cattle. Here, the main thing in the current moment. The rest just added.

[kitt409]

The difference is that the opportunity to work and the duty to work, the difference needs to be explained?
but this project has already been explained to us only by officials)

[DED_peer_DED]

Memory..
We know and remember ...

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: DED_peer_DED

Memory

With a picture - is it not too much? It’s a bit thick, IMHO.

Quote: DED_peer_DED

We know and remember

I got bored here ... they all know something, they all remember ... there’s simply nowhere to go

[DED_peer_DED]

Duck, not all the same "programmers" to be.
But we, mouth is not yet tied ...
From memory (not RAM), questions will be?
Or do you think your options?

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: DED_peer_DED

Duck, not all the same "programmers" to be

Not understood...

Quote: DED_peer_DED

This is me to you, as a programmer-programmer ....

Something you, my friend, that ... have reported a little ...
Not good

[DED_peer_DED]

Do not be offended ...
A joke of humor ...
Each person is valuable in itself. Both you and I ...
It is necessary to try to search not only for what separates us, but for what - it unites us.
In the best sense of the word.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: DED_peer_DED

Each person is valuable in itself. Both you and I

For you, I already somehow have doubts

Quote: DED_peer_DED

We must try to look not only for what separates us, but for what - connects

Me? With you??!
No idea. I am guessing

[DED_peer_DED]

Here ...
Not everyone can fight everyone?
After all, there are options for a "hostel" of the human, in the sense.
I argue (for example ...) with all my many neighbors, friends, clients, etc., etc.
Well ... is that really the case?
If I (this is about me, don’t take it upon myself ...) will consider myself better than all (or, modestly, almost all) other people ... Will I go far?
Nea ...
In the deepest sense.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: DED_peer_DED

Will I go far?

In any case, it is unlikely. Count, don't count ...

Quote: DED_peer_DED

Unfortunately, this is how I see the future of my country

That's why you will leave ... not far, but soon.
That’s how I personally see your future.
That's it, I’m going to sleep, I have to work tomorrow ... for the wicked-capitalism, he pays me for this (ts-ss-sss ...) white
Well, how not to work a little on such a nyashka
And you - work, you still have everything ahead

[DED_peer_DED]

Reevaluated self-esteem.
Not a diagnosis ...
But you still have everything ahead ...

[DED_peer_DED]

Unfortunately, this is how I see the future of my country:


and it depresses me.

[laskalo60]

You know, I’m leaving the first comment here. I live in Vladivostok. I do not see advertisements for such events. Self pre-retirement age. It seems that I’m watching TV, and I’m friends with the Internet. I myself would go to such a rally. The Communist Party in the course of the underground organizes? But can’t you tell the news about such an event for 2-3 minutes on television? Or on the Internet to catch my eye everywhere? Vobschem poor organization. Such uninformed as I am full.

[DED_peer_DED]

On what (whose, what, ...) television? According to theirs?
Funny, sorry.

[Katran]

Why confusion in the head to make, even better programs for idiots everyone is watching, the letters guess there, all sorts of shows. And still think what good will begin ...

[DED_peer_DED]

God forbid!
If the herd begins to choose - a shepherd?!?
You .... imagine, this - imagine?

[DED_peer_DED]

Dear comrades, people!
Regarding the so-called "Pension reform" I want to express to you my point of view.
The authorities in Moscow switched from agitation and propaganda in newspapers, on the radio, and especially on television, where zombies and general deceit of the Russian population have been going on for years, where we are told every morning and night by all kinds of “talking heads,” like we are all illiterate and dumb , and now the government in Moscow is moving to direct threats and actions aimed at worsening our lives, reducing the number of “extra” people in their understanding, to exhausting older people without exception, to driving them into coffins until their well-deserved retirement, and our accumulations - to steal!
And this is just the beginning!
The beginning of their policy of making us slaves who will work on plantations all their lives from birth to death, under the whips of slave owners and for the unfortunate soldering of baland! They want to leave us only two of our rights: to be born and die!
1% of Russian citizens have in their private property - 80% of the public domain!
Oh, what a fair "pension reform" can be discussed, with such an inequality!
Recall the USSR ...
There was no Pension Fund in the USSR, no deductions from enterprises to the Pension Fund - there was not, as it is now. And people who reached retirement age retired - they received pension payments.
How so?
Why didn’t anyone in the USSR tell retirees how many young and strong people work to earn a pension for one pensioner?
Why are they trying to explain to us from morning to night, from TV screens, that there are a lot of pensioners and that there aren’t enough workers for all of them, so the number of "loafers" needs to be reduced?
The country does not have enough funds for retirement!
At that time, when the Pension Fund, over the past few years, was used as a "cash cow" for various meaningless, but expensive MEGASUPERprojects.
Our money from the PFR went into the pockets of business oligarchs close to the authorities in Moscow!
All there Deripasok, Alekperovs, Fridmanov, Vekselbergs, Rotenbergs and others like them - Abramovich.
The "Biggest cable-stayed bridge in the Far East (the largest of all in Russia, Korea, Japan, etc.) was built, stretching from Vladivostok to the" void ", yes, into the void, on the tiny island of Russky, where before, under the USSR was the garrison prison of Vladivostok!
The Vostochny Cosmodrome was built and is being built on pies, where only the lazy did not put their sweaty pens to the people's money, where hundreds of criminal cases were initiated against embezzlement, which everyone had already forgotten about.
Constructed facilities for the Sochi Olympics. The road from Sochi to the Rosa Khutor alone cost so much that if it were made of gold, it would cost less. Now, many of these objects are empty and destroyed.
The MEGA bridge was built and continues to be built between the Kuban and Crimea by the citizens of Rotenberg, with adjacent infrastructure, roads, networks, etc.
Stadiums, roads, bridges, etc., were built all over Russia for the 2018 FIFA World Cup.
Many of which are already partially destroyed and are destroyed further, even from the first rain.
Palaces were built for the Pension Fund throughout Russia and in the regions, they were built according to individual, non-standard projects, which means that they have no price!
These and many similar MEGAPROJECTS, which do not give anything to a simple working people, were built and are built on money from the Pension Fund of Russia, bringing real benefit only to those businessmen who built these unique, unimaginable objects - objects.
And now, we are told that there is no money in the PFR ... "but, you - hold on!"
So what is the real essence of the so-called pension reform and where do its legs grow from?
In 2017, authorities in Moscow were negotiating with the International Monetary Fund.
The negotiations were attended by economists, representatives of the Central Bank of Russia, members and representatives of the Russian government.
Representatives of the IMF insisted and included in the final documents of the negotiations the condition of MANDATORY pension reform in Russia. Here is verbatim from the IMF Country Report No. 17/197: quote
“And finally, over time, more significant budget savings can be achieved through parametric reform of the pension system. . ” end of quote.
Paragraph 16 of this report states, I quote further, “

16. The authorities are committed to fiscal consolidation.

Although the approval of the pension reform can only happen some time after the presidential election, they discussed three sets of measures that can be considered: i) raising and leveling the retirement age established by law; ii) reduction of retirement benefits in case of early retirement; iii) reduction of pension payments for pensioners who have not reached the mandatory retirement age. ”
end of quote.
So, that's where these legs come from!
The Washington Regional Committee gave the command to carry out pension reform!
And the branch in Moscow replied “IS!”
Dear fellow countrymen! Be principled and careful. Try at a glance, from the first word to distinguish truth from lies and injustice! Do not let deceit and beautiful promises keep yourself in slavery with the oligarchs and singing along with them!
I’ll end with a quote: “People, I loved you, be vigilant!”
These are the words that end the book "Reporting with a noose around the neck" of the hero of the Czech Resistance of the Second World War, writer Julius Fucik (1903-1943).

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: DED_peer_DED

People, I loved you, be vigilant!

The words are good ... just out of place here.
So what are we calling for, Mr. Comrade? It is not necessary to build anything, the army - to dissolve the oligarchs, it is clear - to the nearest aspen?
So, or how?

[DED_peer_DED]

Phantasms do not suffer.

Quote: Golovan Jack

There is no need to build anything, the army - to dissolve, the oligarchs, of course - to the nearest aspen

Note those ....
THIS IS YOUR WORDS.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: DED_peer_DED

THIS IS YOUR WORDS

There was a question mark at the end, why did you sing it somewhere?

Quote: DED_peer_DED

I don't suffer from fantasies

I don’t hear the answer:

Quote: Golovan Jack

So what are we calling for, Mr. Comrade?

And then you have a lot of bukff, but the meaning is somehow lost

[DED_peer_DED]

What is the question mark?
ETOGES information technology!
So the news is done.
Special cut out. Ah, the meaning ...
Is changing.
That's how they bred us like rabbits.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: DED_peer_DED

What is the question mark?

And who was, and then he was gone

Quote: DED_peer_DED

Special cut out

Not good. Obscurely

Quote: DED_peer_DED

we are bred like rabbits

Yes, you (and others like you), on the campaign, get divorced yourself. Faster than any rabbits.
Just from damp
True, one consolation is that they usually do not live long. Well, not given to them ...

Nazgul is the same person as you and I. Only able to do more.
But he doesn’t know how to live. So who can do this - live?

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Golovan Jack

True, one consolation is that they usually do not live long. Well, not given to them ...

Here, it’s not good ... You understand ..
Finely.
Ah, I am to you (you), as a person to a person.
How can one live with such anger towards people?
Are you a human too?
Or, Übermensch?

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: DED_peer_DED

How can one live with such anger towards people?

Have you equated yourself with all-all people?
It’s bold
Yes, and to you no malice, in fact. Well, how can you get annoying angry at a fly, tell me? Usually with her, ahem ... very different, in short, relationship.
Voooot ...

[V. Demon]

The total number of pensioners in the Russian Federation for 2017 is 43,5 million. people
The number of working pensioners is 15 million people.
The number of registered disabled people in Russia as of June 1, 2017 is 11,5 million. –– receive a social pension fully subsidized from state revenues. It is registered in a separate line in the federal budget.
The relevant data is provided on the website of the Federal Register. According to information, 58% of women with disabilities and 42% of men with disabilities are registered in Russia. Almost 638,2 thousand of them are children with disabilities (5,5%). 68,7 thousand at the age from 0 to 3 years, 153,9 thousand at the age of 4-7 years, 302,9 thousand - from 8-14 years and 112,5 thousand - from 15-17 years.

INFORMATION ON WORKING DISABLED PEOPLE ACCORDING TO THE ACCOUNT IN THE SYSTEM OF THE PENSION FUND OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION
(as of January 1) -1644 thousand people. or 14,3% of the total number of persons with disabilities
Some calculations:
1. Pensioners receiving labor pensions 43.5 -11.5= 32 million people
of which: do not work in N.Kh. 32 -15 = 18 million people (full provision of FIUs)
Contributing contributions to the FIU:
- persons with disabilities - 1.644 million people FR
- labor pensioners -15 mln.

Here are some calculations for retirement. You also need to count the money of deceased pensioners and those who did not live to retirement.
Now I'm trying to do this.
Victor

[DED_peer_DED]

You can not count anything. PFR money is stolen. It is necessary to consider - thieves.

[Valery Gagarin]

Quote: laskalo60

You know, I’m leaving the first comment here. I live in Vladivostok. I do not see advertisements for such events. Self pre-retirement age. It seems that I’m watching TV, and I’m friends with the Internet. I myself would go to such a rally. The Communist Party in the course of the underground organizes? But can’t you tell the news about such an event for 2-3 minutes on television? Or on the Internet to catch my eye everywhere? Vobschem poor organization. Such uninformed as I am full.

It is impossible. The same word to give the people. In a nightmare, the Kremlin can only dream about it. There are no opposition channels in the grid of 20 channels of the TV digits package. And under the current government will not. You will never hear the truth from them.

[Valery Gagarin]

Quote: saigon

Sorry, dear Andrew, by golly.
Probably it should be considered how many years it will take for men, and this is not like 2034. Well, an increase for women for 8 years is not disgusting, it's a meanness. And the whole way of introducing reform is rather scanty under the guise.
And it doesn’t matter how many years they want to stretch, it is important that the state tries to throw off social guarantees.
Well, after stupid agitation for increasing the age to work, there is a persistent disgust and not trust.
But trust is no longer an accounting category, it’s don’t buy it, sell it and roll it back, it’s already moral categories and the sellers are bad with that.
The deceiving person will lie again, and here the hardworking confidence is destroyed to the government, to the food system deputies.
Now any words, any, the most truthful truth will be perceived as a lie.
Now the arguments do not work, they do not perceive the moral breakdown of society is very large.
It’s sad.

In today's society, men are a drop in the bucket. There are more women and most of them, unlike men, pay taxes on white salaries. So the root of the problem is in women. I would raise the retirement age for men for a year, and women for 2. And all this would stretch for 6 years (increase of 2 months every year) with a delay of only 3-4 years after the law was introduced. And the security forces would also be on the threshold of retirement level with everyone - and there would be benefits to those who participated in the hostilities. Why is a staff officer better than a night electrician?

[DED_peer_DED]

Just to replenish the FIU, half of the people need to be attached to the "ecologically clean areas" under bread and water.
"business, for a penny ..." (C) It can’t be.

[kitt409]

As for the comparison of the officer and the electrician - as a comparison, it is inappropriate to get at least, the officer often gets to the headquarters immediately after graduation, or by garrison of years ... he will serve first, then whoever makes the electrician go where someone needs him, he doesn’t I want to?
Tell me, are officers ONLY staff and those who participate in hostilities ???
Other varieties definitely DO NOT exist?
And those who have the most varied duty wherever they can - the Strategic Missile Forces, the air defense and so on - are they also in 65 ???
All this will end with the fact that they will raise the conditional Pupkin at night and send this duty to bear, well, there is no one else to do it, how can you?)

[DED_peer_DED]

“Comrade” above, apparently thinks that “staff officer”, this title is such that IT is assigned at the military school, and - for life.
Diagnosis....

[Brigadier]

Today, especially after the Duma’s “vote” by edrosovtsy on pension “reform,” to respect Putin and Medvedev means DO NOT RESPECT YOURSELF !!!

[Conductor]

what terrible buses in Krasnodar, not all, of course, but many, Paziki.

[Katran]

Deputy Director of the Institute of Demography at the Higher School of Economics Mikhail Denisenko claims that the researchers have come to the following conclusion: 17,4% of men and 6,5% of women will not live to the retirement age during the transitional period.