Sports community boils up: Was it necessary to reward the players?

In the sports environment of Russia, a scandal broke out over yesterday's awarding of football players and coaches of the Russian national team. Recall that on the eve of the Kremlin, the president accepted the football team and presented state awards. So, coach Stanislav Cherchesov was awarded the Order of Alexander Nevsky, goalkeeper Igor Akinfeev and defender Sergey Ignashevich - the Order of Honor. The rest of the national team players received presidential letters and thanks. At the same time, all the players of the Russian national football team received from sports officials the title of Honored Master of Sports (ZMS).

It is the title of ZMS and caused controversy in the sports environment. It all started with the post of Russian volleyball player Ekaterina Gamova (two-time Olympic medalist), who wrote in Instagram:

Some strangely different attitude to the achievements of athletes in our country! Someone, to get the title of ZMS, you need to win the world championship or become a medalist of the Olympic Games, and someone gets only for reaching the quarter-finals. I am sorry that the title of PMS devalue.

Gamowa also notes that at one time not all of the “golden” line-up of the women's volleyball team received the title of PJS - officials said that not all were players of the main line-up.

After this post Gamova public opinion was divided. Some supported her, others declared envious.

Commentary from the “support group”, in which Russian volleyball player, Olympic champion 2012 of the year, Oleg Musersky is also (quote "Championship.com" copyright text saved):

I'm also surprised that they started to compare football and volleyball! The popularity of these sports, workload, competition, etc. Post is not about that! The post that the icon of the Honored Master of Sports is given in Russia for 1-3-place at the Olympic Games and for 1-place at the World Championships. But not for the release of the final in 1 / 4! Guys, football players have nothing to do with it, I repeat these words again! They played well! And the highest award can not be for 8-e place ... Badge ZMS for me personally lost its value ... I generally keep quiet about the organization of honoring in the Kremlin.

Those who expressed their dissatisfaction recalled the awarding of foreign cars, which is also not spelled out in the statutes and codes.

Discussion rewarding Russian football continues. At the same time, the main controversy is not about the performance of the Russian national team, which really performed with dignity, but around a strange approach to the same laws and principles.

Comments

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Sports community boils up: Was it necessary to reward the players?

of course ! it was necessary to issue another BMW, tickets to Courchevel and the “services” of the girls to pay. They deserved, the championship floor lasted! (the moment when the President is again ashamed ...)

[The black]

For losing in the quarter finals of volleyball, hockey players would be mixed with mud ..... Russia is a football country? ........... we have a country with a population of 120 million. At the same time, sports functionaries with foam at the mouth prove that we have football - a national sport.
Try to compare these two facts in your head and ask yourself the question - what the hell are we doing with the 8th place?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Black

Try to compare these two facts in your head and ask yourself the question - what the hell are we doing with the 8th place? laughing

It’s just that Russian agitprop really needs victories today. No matter what, the main thing is that they distract from the failure in the economy.

[The black]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

It’s just that Russian agitprop really needs victories today. No matter what, the main thing is that they distract from the failure in the economy.

I agree ..... and if there is no Victory, then it can be invented, as in this case .... however, I am not surprised. They put it on the Constitution, and only on the "Regulation on the awarding of honorary sports titles" .... ..

[Stas157]

Yes, in general, all the highest awards are discounted! Hero Star - Karlov, remember? Who caught a bullet in the back, walking around the museum, and not risking the battlefield, sacrificing his life .. Soon the stars will be handed out already for the fact that the car hit! Every oligarch in our country has been awarded with some kind of state awards for the valiant robbery of the people!

Quote: LSA57

toad stuck?

You still had to add, your favorite (among the Zaputinites): "stop whining!" and "go to work!" Then it would be really cool!

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Stas157

Hero Star - Karlov, remember? Who caught a bullet in the back, walking around the museum

Stas, go already, walk around the museum. Maybe something will fall into you

[Ruslan67]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Who caught a bullet in the back, walking around the museum,

Quote: Golovan Jack

go already, walk around the museum

I'm already ready to join the walk Three meters behind with a crowbar ready Suddenly he won’t catch a bullet ....

[Observer2014]

Stas157 Stas

Good morning, Kisul!

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Observer2014

Observer2014

He laughs well who laughs ... without consequences.
Loach

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: Stas157

Hero Star - Karlov, remember? Who caught a bullet in the back, walking around the museum

Stas, go already, walk around the museum. Maybe something will fall into you

Roman, what kind of Hero is he, if he had no thoughts that he could be killed in the museum? It would be another matter if he knew, but consciously went to the museum, because his country needed it that way. Then - yes, Hero.
A hero is one who, at the risk of his life, performs the task.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

The hero is the one who, at the risk of his life, performs the task

Being an ambassador in a not too friendly country, pursuing the policy of your state there (not too pleasant for this country) and dying in this post is unworthy of the title of Hero?
Personally, I have a different opinion
PS: they certainly didn’t kill him because he went to the museum, didn’t they?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

The hero is the one who, at the risk of his life, performs the task

Being an ambassador in a not too friendly country, pursuing the policy of your state there (not too pleasant for this country) and dying in this post is unworthy of the title of Hero?
Personally, I have a different opinion
PS: they certainly didn’t kill him because he went to the museum, didn’t they?

Not all miners return from the face. They know that they may not return, but they still go. How many who did not return were honored with the Hero Star? But this is a feat, working with a risk to life. In the history of Russian diplomacy, how many diplomats have been killed? During the same time, how many miners died?

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Krasnoyarsk

So
I answered your initial question, I expressed my point of view.
You essno can have your point of view.
To prove to you anything, and even more so to convince you of anything, I do not have to and do not want to.
That's all, actually

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Krasnoyarsk

So
I answered your initial question, I expressed my point of view.
You essno can have your point of view.
To prove to you anything, and even more so to convince you of anything, I do not have to and do not want to.
That's all, actually

Those. essentially nothing to say.

[aws4]

Yes, not worthy of the title of hero! you finally understand the phrase-the hero of Russia ???

[papas-57]

"To be an ambassador in a not too friendly country, to pursue the policy of your state there (not too pleasant for this country) and die in this post is not worthy of the title of Hero?" Then the ambassadors in England and the States need to give Heroes in life. And in the Baltic States Twice Heroes.

[bolt]

Quote: Stas157

Yes, in general, all the highest awards are discounted! Hero Star - Karlov, remember ...?

Is this your Star of the Hero devalued, the navalist is shrill? Go to work. If you know what "work" is ...

[DEDPIHTO]

And how do the liberal guards justify the closed decree of the guarantor on awarding Kiriyenko (Kinser Surprise, default hero 98g.) Hero of Russia?

[Gennadich]

kremlebot leaked-would look at it forever what are you stupid in Lahti 2

[DEDPIHTO]

And I’ll add one more worthy character ..

[astepanov]

Quote: Stas157

Soon the stars will be distributed for the fact that the car hit! Every oligarch in our country has been awarded with some kind of state awards for the valiant robbery of the people!

This is just the result of inflation of everything that the thieving hands of the state touch. Take any official, even thrice caught stealing - he will provide you with a complete iconostasis of awards, from the Order of Alexander Nevsky to the jubilee medal "For salvation in a fire in Moscow in 1812." Here are the awards of Serdyukov:
Medal of Merit (FSSP of Russia, November 22, 2006).
The certificate of honor of the Central Election Commission of the Russian Federation (April 2, 2008) - for active assistance and substantial assistance in organizing and conducting the election of the President of the Russian Federation.
Order of the Holy Prince Prince Daniel of Moscow, III degree (2009, Russian Orthodox Church).
Order of Friendship of Peoples (Belarus, 2009).
The certificate of honor of the Collective Security Council of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (December 20, 2011) - for active and fruitful work to develop and deepen military-political cooperation within the framework of the Collective Security Treaty Organization.
Distinguished “Named Firearms” (January 4, 2012, Ukraine)
In the same way, this fraternity gives each other academic degrees: Doctor of Philosophy and Technical (!) Sciences Rogozin, Doctor Zyuganov and Zhirinovsky, and there are 107 people in parliament with a doctor or candidate degree. Most of them have never dealt with science and their degrees - pure linden, however, like Putin's dissertation or the title of "academician" Kadyrov. As a result, the institute of academic degrees is completely discredited, and the authority of the Higher Attestation Commission is lost.
... at the university department, which I graduated, there were two doctors of science. These were people who in the 60s - 70s provided world-class results. Now there are doctors there, like cockroaches in the insectarium, but there are no results.
However, all the same can be said about art, education, culture. Inflation, sir!

[Alex Justice]

Yes, in general, all the highest awards are discounted!

Absolutely.
The artists are all popular and honored. The usual job of entertaining people was equated with a feat. All this window dressing and awards must be canceled.

[Siberian]

Gos. the reward is a way to ensure the family’s existence, Karlov’s wife doesn’t go to the kiosk, she’s also likely to have no pension, there’s no reason to raise her, and all pensioners will receive it after the loss of the breadwinner

[staviator]

Quote: Stas157

Yes, in general, all the highest awards are discounted!

I also never understood why they gave the title of hero to Karelin, or, for example, a star for landing on an aircraft carrier. How can this be compared, well, for example, with the feat of guys from the 9th company?

[Leeds]

You cannot leave the group with a baleen on the Euro. Friendlies showed everything.

[Yuyuka]

Quote: Leeds

You cannot leave the group with a baleen on the Euro. Friendlies showed everything.

Well, why is it so pessimistic ... all of a sudden lucky and get to Spain again ...
And about the awards of orders and ranks. What does the order of Alexander Nevsky? Well, if you reward hockey players, there at least a logical chain can be pulled - they are connected with ice It was just necessary to establish new medals and orders - as during the Second World War.
For example, “For the victory over Spain” - after 50 years it will be quoted at the level “For the capture of Berlin”, since no one will remember the normal story ... Or else - the medal “For the Defense of the Russian Gates”, the order “For Merit to Fatherland in football "of all degrees (you can do at least 11 degrees!)
Ranks and awards must correspond to perfect, without exaggerating merit and not underestimating ...

[MPN]

The Order of Alexander Nevsky is a Soviet award from the Great Patriotic War. It was established by a decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of July 29, 1942 simultaneously with the Orders of Suvorov and Kutuzov to reward the commanding staff of the Red Army for outstanding services in organizing and directing military operations and for the successes achieved in the battles for the Motherland achieved as a result of these operations.

Something to add as something not something.

[Yuyuka]

Quote: MPN

The Order of Alexander Nevsky is a Soviet award from the Great Patriotic War. It was established by a decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of July 29, 1942 simultaneously with the Orders of Suvorov and Kutuzov to reward the commanding staff of the Red Army for outstanding services in organizing and directing military operations and for the successes achieved in the battles for the Motherland achieved as a result of these operations.

Something to add as something not something.

yeah ... in the USSR they did more justly - they gave the Heroes of Socialist Labor. It would be closer to the truth - the hero of captrud, and would correspond to the realities - they get a lot of money

[mik0588]

THIS IS JUST A SHAME ..... SOMETHING!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Yuyuka

What does the order of Alexander Nevsky?

Yes, they give it to anyone now. Deripaska, Potanin, Solovyov, Miller, Maslyakov, Gref, and a whole bunch of hell knows who - all the gentlemen of Alexander Nevsky.

[Siberian]

Everyone who, under some kind of authority, submits all the data to himself, but in order to be awarded you just need to carefully fill out all the required papers with all the required signatures. Get rid of any head physician, director of something - all any gentlemen of anything. "To be at the water, to not get drunk?"

[dauria]

. They put on the Constitution, and only on the "Regulation on the awarding of honorary sports titles"

Formally, the situation is observed (see paragraph 3). The rest is on the conscience of those who decided "as an exception." For me, the title has been devalued.

1-3 place at the Olympic, Paralympic, Deaflympic games in personal or team competitions or competitions in team game sports.
1st place at the World Championships, World Cups, European Championships or European Cups, provided that the athlete scored at least 150 qualification points (in sports that do not host international competitions, you only need to qualify points).
As an exception, “for his outstanding contribution to enhancing the authority of the Russian Federation and Russian sports at the international level, while showing exceptional courage and skill.”

[Doliva63]

Quote: Black

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

It’s just that Russian agitprop really needs victories today. No matter what, the main thing is that they distract from the failure in the economy.

I agree ..... and if there is no Victory, then it can be invented, as in this case .... however, I am not surprised. They put it on the Constitution, and only on the "Regulation on the awarding of honorary sports titles" .... ..

Those for whom the people vote for a long time put everything. But the people are numb. You see, out of sports interest - to find out what else they will put on?

[nikoliski]

Is the economy a failure? What then to say about your Ukrainian? You got independence in 91, the Ukrainian SSR was richer in GDP than the GDR! There were 300 different vessels in Odessa! There were 3500 tanks, a bunch of planes, a well-functioning industry, and we received all the external debt of the USSR and oil at $ 18 per barrel, while we were able to raise the PPP GDP to record levels (higher than in the USSR ) 1 place China 2 USA 3 India 4 Japan 5 Germany 6 Russia! this despite the fact that the country suffered a default under Yeltsin and 2 wars in Chechnya, now we have practically paid our external debts (even the Yeltsin’s), the gold capsule is much thicker than under the USSR, and what do you have in Ukraine? The thief shouted Yanyk, but now it seems to me he was reporting to you from his pocket HOW could one squander everything for 23 years of independence ?? how is Karl? Ukraine is all in debt, without industry (with a "scum" scoop cars produced a year more than now for 5 years) And you there is something else to eat about the Russian economy, you do not have it at all, the GDP of the city of Moscow, higher than the entire GDP of Ukraine, you have already caught up with Angola with Slovakia (only 5 million live in Slovakia, but only one question works - HOW?)

[midshipman]

Dear Nicholas, there are not a bunch of aircraft, but 11 thousand combat (currently a little more than 2 thousand), airfields about 2 thousand (now a little more than 160).

[nikoliski]

I did not go into the numbers, so everyone knows that Ukraine managed to pump everything (and, say, South Korea destroyed by the war could literally become a world leader in shipbuilding (second place after China) and in electronics (it's like doing everything from scratch, and Ukraine just an example, like having everything, tearing down the legacy for nothing) As for the Russian Federation, we’ll add at least now we’ll start to release something new, let the first processor be the first, but our (will go better) Su-2 S-57 armor maneuvering warheads on the Mace ( while no one has been able to find an analogue, the Chinese seem to be trying, the Americans are stuck in the 500s, everyone is sitting on the Minitmen) And the Ukrainians are doomed to pay a beggarly share, and when the last Soviet NPPs get up, they can’t imagine how they will fill it up, it’s just that the country’s collapse will be all.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: nikoliski

What then to say about your Ukrainian?

Nikolay, who would argue! I could add, but I suppose it’s not necessary. And so everything is clear.
One thing is just not clear to me - why are you addressing all this to me? What do I have to do with this Ukrainian shame?

[nikoliski]

I don’t know, that's why you have a Ukrainian flag in your avatar, did you choose it yourself? or IP automatically selected?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: nikoliski

I don’t know, that's why you have a Ukrainian flag in your avatar, did you choose it yourself? or IP automatically selected?

Well, of course not myself. I asked the administrator to change to any, it makes no difference to me, but they did not hear me.

[Warrior with machine gun]

with this sauce, you can also lower the premium system below the baseboard, although it has already been there for a long time.

[nikoliski]

Our population is 146 million, and it’s not the case (in Indonesia 268, in the USA 330, in India 1 billion 350 million, in China 1 billion 400 million, but they have not been taken away at all). The fact is that I’m the second for all time I saw the TEAM at the championship (the first time in EURO, when the Netherlands was beaten), and as for the comparison of the populations, we are not fighting wall to wall with our own 146 million, against 98 million Egyptians, but 11 people are playing against 11, whose tactics are trickier, whose legs are faster and more precisely, first of all, this is a game! why politicize, trumping something, guys with 2 legs came out and those and those, there shouldn’t be any politics at all. Well done guys, I even liked the penalty match against Croatia much more than I won with Spain

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: nikoliski

! why politicize, trumping something,

Nikolay, look at the title of the article discussed here. We are not about politics, we are about - is it right or wrong to reward people who have not achieved a better result compared to other participants?

[nikoliski]

you just don’t have to give military orders, but I think guys are worthy of merit for the Fatherland no less than before in the USSR the milkmaid who was awarded the Order of Lenin

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: nikoliski

you just don’t have to give military orders, but I think guys are worthy of merit for the Fatherland no less than before in the USSR the milkmaid who was awarded the Order of Lenin

Nikolay, what do you know about the milkmaid’s work that you are so outraged by the fact of her being awarded the Order of Lenin? Have you ever milked a cow in your life? Every day you had to come to work at 4 a.m. every day to milk at least for which no orders were given, 15 cows by hand, pre-wash each cow, strain the milk, then load 40 liter cans onto the car, then meet the car with empty cans and wash them for the next milking, in the stall period to set food, etc., etc., etc. But the hardest thing is of course milking. Ask a rural woman what it means to milk a "tight" cow. She hopefully enlightens you. But orders were given not only for the number of her “wards” cows, but, most importantly, for milk yield. And milking is CARE for the cows! And you didn’t do it, but the same milkmaid. And for a snack -
Milkmaids usually have occupational diseases, this is arthritis of the joints of the hands, specifically of the hands, fingers begin to worsen their mobility and become very painful over time, meteorological dependence on the weather appears - hands begin to ache and hurt more in bad weather. "Bronchial asthma" or "emphysema" of the lungs due to the smell in the barn may also appear. And as a result, disability can be put in the future. And the fact that the milkmaid in the case where the cows are constantly in rubber boots, and even in winter. Also, "arthritis" of the joints of the legs and "varicose veins" on the legs, the vessels become inflamed, swelling of the legs because of this, from long, daily standing on the legs for many hours. Also, kidneys, many colds can get sick. And you can get "tuberculosis", "brucileosis", "sciatica".

I believe now you agree that the milkmaids deservedly received the orders of Lenin, the Red Banner of Labor and the Hero of Socialism. Work? These are not battle orders. And for what kind of military merit did the coach receive a military order? Suvorov, in the next world, go spits with anger and resentment.

[Yuyuka]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Quote: nikoliski

you just don’t have to give military orders, but I think guys are worthy of merit for the Fatherland no less than before in the USSR the milkmaid who was awarded the Order of Lenin

Nikolay, what do you know about the milkmaid’s work that you are so outraged by the fact of her being awarded the Order of Lenin? Have you ever milked a cow in your life? Every day you had to come to work at 4 a.m. every day to milk at least for which no orders were given, 15 cows by hand, pre-wash each cow, strain the milk, then load 40 liter cans onto the car, then meet the car with empty cans and wash them for the next milking, in the stall period to set food, etc., etc., etc. But the hardest thing is of course milking. Ask a rural woman what it means to milk a "tight" cow. She hopefully enlightens you. But orders were given not only for the number of her “wards” cows, but, most importantly, for milk yield. And milking is CARE for the cows! And you didn’t do it, but the same milkmaid. And for a snack -
Milkmaids usually have occupational diseases, this is arthritis of the joints of the hands, specifically of the hands, fingers begin to worsen their mobility and become very painful over time, meteorological dependence on the weather appears - hands begin to ache and hurt more in bad weather. "Bronchial asthma" or "emphysema" of the lungs due to the smell in the barn may also appear. And as a result, disability can be put in the future. And the fact that the milkmaid in the case where the cows are constantly in rubber boots, and even in winter. Also, "arthritis" of the joints of the legs and "varicose veins" on the legs, the vessels become inflamed, swelling of the legs because of this, from long, daily standing on the legs for many hours. Also, kidneys, many colds can get sick. And you can get "tuberculosis", "brucileosis", "sciatica".

I believe now you agree that the milkmaids deservedly received the orders of Lenin, the Red Banner of Labor and the Hero of Socialism. Work? These are not battle orders. And for what kind of military merit did the coach receive a military order? Suvorov, in the next world, go spits with anger and resentment.

hooked with milkmaids ... everything was so ... in Soviet times, not only milkmaids, but machine operators were worthy of high awards. When people saved bread from a fire, people died ... I remember in the beginning of the 70s even a song by Zykina was dedicated to such things, then it was small, but the program about such people cut into my memory ...

my grandfather plowed on the tractor for 25 years, the one with the iron wheels, from the first ... now that tractor is standing on a pedestal, it's a pity the nameplate was removed with his name ... When you look at that tractor without windows and doors, you understand that one thing that he worked on it so worthy of the award, but he had nothing except two VDNKh medals - he could not get along with his superiors

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Yuyuka

my grandfather plowed on the tractor for 25 years, the one with the iron wheels, from the first ... now that tractor is standing on a pedestal, it's a pity the nameplate was removed with his name ... When you look at that tractor without windows and doors, you understand that one thing that he worked on it worthy of a reward so much, but he had nothing except two VDNKh medals - he did not know how to get along with his bosses hi

Yes, Yuri, I know all this. The work of a simple "plowman" was appreciated, in the sense of honor, only in the USSR.

[prapor55]

Croatia lost exclusively "thanks" to the most glamorous and useless player. At a critical moment for the national team, he badly logically broke the team. I can not imagine what was happening in the head of Fernandez when he saw such foppishness. I am embarrassed to ask, but Smolov was not given the hero of Croatia? Filimonov here for a similar in Dynamo Kiev took a polish shop.

[Oleg14774]

Quote: Black

Try to compare these two facts in your head and ask yourself the question - what the hell are we doing with the 8th place?

Is the order of Alexander Nevsky not a military order? It is not clear what is happening in the country? Football players for what they should do to give orders .... except for harsh words ... there are not enough words at all!

[NKT]

During the Second World War, there was a “first” order of the junior command staff and, quite rarely, it can be seen on veterans, since many died.

[g1v2]

I completely agree. A master of sports is only a victory in a major international competition or a long career filled with victories. Giving a master for 8th place is an insult to all our champions in other sports. The decision is absolutely wrong. Even if our footballers did more than we expected of them, but to a master of sports they are like cancer to China.

[Mihail28]

In this case, it’s not about “just the Master of Sports”, but about the “Honored Master of Sports”.

[hohol95]

Nobody paid any attention to the loss of the Russian national water polo team from Italians at the European Championship with a crushing score of 1:11!
It would be the same with volleyball players! Hockey players would be “rinsed”, but this would not be the first time for them!
And my personal opinion is that sports officials decided to "lick in on time ..." For everything, this action was arranged!
After all, the whole world was trumpeted about the ACTION of our football players! And for the feat and the REWARD must rely! Apparently chosen as a reward - ZMS !!!

[Sergej1972]

We have a country with a 146 millionth population. We must be more precise.

[Sprut 270286]

146 million population

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Black

we have a country with a population of 120 million.

first find out the population of Russia, then take on serious topics to discuss !!!

[LSA57]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

Sports community boils up: Was it necessary to reward the players?

of course ! it was necessary to issue another BMW, tickets to Courchevel and the “services” of the girls to pay. They deserved, the championship floor lasted! (the moment when the President is again ashamed ...)

toad stuck?

[KLV2018]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

Sports community boils up: Was it necessary to reward the players?

of course ! it was necessary to issue another BMW, tickets to Courchevel and the “services” of the girls to pay. They deserved, the championship floor lasted! (the moment when the President is again ashamed ...)

something for him in recent years is constantly embarrassing.
except Crimea, one wrecking.

[DEDPIHTO]

In Crimea, too, an unhealthy gimp begins — already 40 Israeli Jews have submitted a request for permanent residence, and how many of them hired their skis there. A clearly creeping occupation is planned.
5 drops on awarding: sports millionaires with awards-personnel reserve of the party in power, educated and experienced professionals, from plow, they are not needed there, like economic development ... only the sale of mineral resources.

[Sofievka]

Moses changes course, I honestly hear for the first time, we would have talked about this

[mik0588]

It seems to be changing slowly, half a year ago stirring from distant relatives appeared, but before that they didn’t want to know ..........

[Semyonych]

And if you reached the final? It’s even scary to think ....

[KLV2018]

Quote: Semyonitch

And if you reached the final? It’s even scary to think ....

in the mausoleum would be put.

[Yuyuka]

Quote: KLV2018

Quote: Semyonitch

And if you reached the final? It’s even scary to think ....

in the mausoleum would be put.

alive ??

[KLV2018]

Quote: Yuyuka

Quote: KLV2018

Quote: Semyonitch

And if you reached the final? It’s even scary to think ....

in the mausoleum would be put.

alive ??

in pairs.

[mvg]

And they can buy BiMVi themselves, and at any (upsalyutno) resort, and girls give them free of charge, anyway. Not an indicator. And with the collapse of the country - any initiative that distracts the attention of the people from other problems is worthy of attention.

[bolt]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

Sports community boils up: Was it necessary to reward the players?

of course ! it was necessary to issue another BMW, tickets to Courchevel and the “services” of the girls to pay. They deserved, the championship floor lasted! (the moment when the president is again ashamed ...)

But is it not a shame for YOUR actions and YOUR achievements to all of you who write and add to this?
Tell me, how have you, the “champions” in your field, your homeland cheated on “girls” and “Courchevel”?
Your reaction is dull, powerless, old, like this world, the envy of losers.
We need to work more ourselves. And the money for the "girls" will appear. And you can go on vacation in your car.

[ZVS]

What can you do if the president becomes more and more advanced and can not always correctly evaluate his actions. Remember Brezhnev, Chernenko.

[Sergej1972]

65 years old is old age? How old is Trump?

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

Sports community boils up: Was it necessary to reward the players?

of course ! it was necessary to issue another BMW, tickets to Courchevel and the “services” of the girls to pay. They deserved, the championship floor lasted! (the moment when the President is again ashamed ...)

Why are you ashamed? Let the president be ashamed, although he is not used to being ashamed. I am outraged by another, how much more can you believe in miracles?

To get the title of ZMS, someone needs to win the World Cup or become the winner of the Olympic Games, while someone gets only for reaching the quarter-finals. I'm sorry that the title of ZMS is being devalued.

To get the title of a hero of the Soviet Union or Russia, someone needs to close the embrasure of the bunker, fire on himself, fly into an unknown Cosmos, and someone needs to get out of bandit formations in time or imitate frantic activity after default in an unknown nuclear industry ...
ZMS, you say? Xx-her ...

[LSA57]

Quote: ROSS 42

Let the president be ashamed, although he is not used to being ashamed

Yes, become YOU a witness !!!!!! and close the loopholes. tongue slapping easier. went out into the clearing for 90 minutes ?????? the team jumped above his head. how you toad stuck you were not awarded

[spiriolla-45]

This is an award from a series of PR and improve the rating, well, there to steer on Kamaz or airplane, to lead the Siberian Cranes in flight. Rating falls Vova PR.

[LSA57]

Quote: spiriolla-xnumx

Rating falls Vova PR.

he does not need to PR. he is the PRESIDENT. unlike losers who only pour mud on. take akhijakova as a friend. two pair boots will

[Mussasi]

The insanity of the guarantor began to grow stronger!

[210ox]

Hardly someone is working on the division of society.

Quote: Mussashi

The insanity of the guarantor began to grow stronger!

[Russia]

And this is from the category: and we will go north! Pomelo he is a pomelo.

[Shurik70]

There is a good historical example.
When Catherine appropriated the extraordinary rank of Field Marshal for Suvorov’s next feat, he was so glad that he jumped through the chairs.
When Pavel-1 began to distribute this title to various slimes, Suvorov was offended. The stupid emperor devalued his rank.
Significant titles cannot be distributed for minor deeds.

[alstr]

With all due respect to Suvorov, he was also not without sin. He himself loved to beg for orders. And the order of St. Vladimir received the 1st degree not by status (it was necessary first to get all the previous degrees).
https://www.simvolika.org/mars_148.htm - здесь подробнее.

As for the titles of the ZMS, it was just necessary to assign the following title to everyone. If the title of ZMS already exists, then the order of honor (even though it’s right here). Well, the order of Al. Nevsky - this is wrong - this is a military order. It was necessary to give "For Merit to the Fatherland."

[Yuyuka]

Quote: alstr

With all due respect to Suvorov, he was also not without sin. He himself loved to beg for orders. And the order of St. Vladimir received the 1st degree not by status (it was necessary first to get all the previous degrees).
https://www.simvolika.org/mars_148.htm - здесь подробнее.

As for the titles of the ZMS, it was just necessary to assign the following title to everyone. If the title of ZMS already exists, then the order of honor (even though it’s right here). Well, the order of Al. Nevsky - this is wrong - this is a military order. It was necessary to give "For Merit to the Fatherland."

Suvorov was unique, so that "without sin" you can forgive him

and the Order of Nevsky unfortunately devalued the 90s, Medvedev finally had a hand
Decree of the President of the Russian Federation D. Medvedev dated September 7, 2010 No. 1099 “On measures to improve the state award system of the Russian Federation” established that the Order of Alexander Nevsky is again included in the state award system of the Russian Federation, and its statute and description have been approved [8] . The badge of the Order of Alexander Nevsky of the Russian Federation reproduces the design of the pre-revolutionary order.

Grounds for rewarding

The Order of Alexander Nevsky is awarded to citizens of the Russian Federation, replacing civil service positions, for special personal services to the Fatherland in the state-building, many years of conscientious service and the high results achieved by them in the performance of official duties, in strengthening the international authority of Russia, the country's defense , science, education, culture, art, health protection and other merits, as well as citizens of the Russian Federation for high personal advances in various sectors of the economy, research, socio-cultural, educational and other socially useful activities.
Citizens of the Russian Federation may be awarded the Order of Alexander Nevsky, as a rule, provided that they were previously awarded the Order of the Russian Federation, and persons serving in civil service positions must also have a total civil service experience of at least 20 years.
The Order of Alexander Nevsky can be awarded to prominent foreign political and public figures, representatives of the business community of foreign countries for their services in developing multilateral cooperation with the Russian Federation and assisting in its social and economic development.

as they say, without comment ... they left only a picture, the essence was changed ... the military award was turned into a "badge"

[LSA57]

Quote: Shurik70

Significant titles cannot be distributed for minor deeds.

there was a holiday in the country. only the blind did not see. or who in sports does not understand anything at all

[vic02]

This very “guarantor” also works in the sweat of his bald head, creating castes, with reforms of education, health care, pension and other social services. providing.

[Russia]

Quote: vic02

This very “guarantor” also works in the sweat of his bald head, creating castes, with reforms of education, health care, pension and other social services. providing.

Come on, buddy. Are there good ones around you or a dream only about a barrel of jam and a box of cookies?

[milling machine]

Quote: 210ox

Hardly someone is working on the division of society.

Quote: Mussashi

The insanity of the guarantor began to grow stronger!

Is Putin himself?

[ZVS]

It is a pity that the retirement age does not apply to top officials of the state. And why, actually? Are they outlawed, i.e. outside the labor code and constitution? The Constitution guarantees all citizens equal rights, or more simply, the extension of the laws of the Russian Federation to everyone.

[Sergej1972]

The Labor Code does not apply to persons holding elected posts, members of the Government, etc.

[Vard]

Here the star is not clear for what ... And you were upset because of the badge ... I think they did it for the case ... If for the same volleyball players it is quite possible to win the World Cup ... Then there is no football in our country. You remember ... No one thought that they would leave the group ...

[Grandfather]

Quote: Vard

I think they gave the case ..

do you understand what you say? for what the hell is the "thing"? lost? give you a bonus at work for half the norm? Well, you type-gave everything out, tried ...

[Vard]

From our players ... The maximum program was to leave the group ... And they played two more matches ... So they overfulfilled their task ...

[Phil77]

Quote: Vard

From our players ... The maximum program was to leave the group ... And they played two more matches ... So they overfulfilled their task ...

No, I don’t agree with you! I didn’t believe that they would leave the group, but rewarding for a worthy performance is too much. 22 points! They didn’t reach the state awards. Rewards for heroes, but they are not heroes. Just well done, that were on field by peasants. but not eagles!

[SHURUM -BURUM]

The maximum program was to leave the group ... And they played two more matches ... So they exceeded their task ...
Something Eurovision with a stroller reminds. The task is about the same.

[LSA57]

Quote: Dead Day

give you a bonus at work for half the norm?

But what was the norm? did you install it?

[Grandfather]

Quote: LSA57

Quote: Dead Day

give you a bonus at work for half the norm?

But what was the norm? did you install it?

In the World Cup there is one place - First. The rest are all losers. you look, also at odds with the intelligence of his football ...

[LSA57]

Quote: Dead Day

in the World Cup there is one place- First

and the DIRECTOR is at work. you probably foreman dream

Quote: Dead Day

you look, also at odds with the intelligence of his football ...

played football until the age of 45.
Yes, what is YOU the difference whom the PRESIDENT awarded ??????? YOU just won’t get it. it’s also good that closed rewards didn’t reach you.

[LSA57]

Quote: Dead Day

Quote: LSA57

Quote: Dead Day

give you a bonus at work for half the norm?

But what was the norm? did you install it?

In the World Cup there is one place - First. The rest are all losers. you look, also at odds with the intelligence of his football ...

why aren't you an oligarch? not sitting in VO? nonsense did not flog.

[dauria]

But what was the norm? did you install it?

See what exactly the title “Honored Master of Sports” is given for. It is clearly written. By the way, judokas do not remember Putin’s “master of sports”. More precisely, the competitions where he earned this title. But the protocols are preserved and the names of the winners are known for all years, even the championships of the RSFSR or the USSR, even the central council of the DSO. For less do not give.

[Fox]

Quote: dauria

By the way, judokas do not remember Putin’s “master of sports”

so the KGB intelligence doesn’t remember him as a scout ... but the briefcase-bearer of the dog, everyone remembers))))

[The black]

Quote: Vard

If for the same volleyball players it is quite possible to win the World Cup ... Then there is no football in our country. You remember ... No one thought that they would leave the group ...

You are wrong. For athletes of all (at least Olympic) sports, the criterion should be ONE !!!! ... so in this case the Audience Award, and ZMS

[Phil77]

At the expense of audience sympathy, yes, they deserve it, along with the Croatian team, if you do not take into account the performance under the camera of a drunken weirdo!

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Vard

... I think they gave for the case ...

What business? Let’s then reward the taxi driver who delivered you to the wrong address, but he delivered you to that area and therefore deserves a reward.

[LSA57]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Quote: Vard

... I think they gave for the case ...

What business? Let’s then reward the taxi driver who delivered you to the wrong address, but he delivered you to that area and therefore deserves a reward.

and also the crested. Yes, remove the toad !!!!!! you always cause panic when give a bonus at work ????????

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Vard

That football in our country is not.

Well, we must create the conditions for him, football, to appear in the country. And to reward losers .. is silly.

[mvg]

Then the Brazilians, for the game of hockey (for example, for the victory over the French team) must immediately give the Hero of Brazil!

[nikoliski]

An incorrect comparison - France is nobody in hockey, if Brazilians beat the team of Sweden, which was the champion many times, then we can give it (we beat the Spaniards of the World and European champions in football, they gave us, I think if they were cut to them , no orders would be handed out yesterday)

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: nikoliski

we beat the Spaniards of world champions

And I thought that the Germans were champions until the 18 year.

[nikoliski]

meant former champions (generally acting usually do not leave the group)

[Mordvin 3]

With the same success, you can justify that we blew Uruguay, those also once were champions.

[nikoliski]

Uruguay and the European champions stopped this time and it wasn’t shameful to fly out of the future champion without Cavani

[mvg]

France has been playing hockey for a long time and defeated the same Swedes, Slovaks ... Remember who Russia won in the final of the 2018 Olympics? Germany, and 50 seconds before the end she lost .. The same is not a hockey team

[nikoliski]

When does the Olympics play the second squad, let France win the World Cup as Sweden once again in a row, and we only left the group after leaving.

[mvg]

Olympic medal - the sweetest cherry on the cake .. The second or third composition. It’s clear that the Stanley Cup and the Champions League are different, but the Olympic champion is just the ZMS

[nikoliski]

By the way, boxers at the Olympics are just “noobs”, the pros will not be allowed to go there, but about football, there only youngsters play at the Summer Olympics (no more than 3 can be players older than juniors)

[Tank hard]

Quote: mvg

Then the Brazilians, for the game of hockey (for example, for the victory over the French team) must immediately give the Hero of Brazil!

I don’t know how it is - in Brazil. But all these titles of the KMS, MS, MSMK, ZMS are the brainchild of the USSR (sort of like), and in many "foreign countries" they have no idea about such titles. They value the title. [b] [/ b] For example - the European champion, medalist of the World Championship, Olympic champion (although the latter, the last time also depreciates. IMHO).

[Yuyuka]

Quote: Vard

Here the star is not clear for what ... And you were upset because of the badge ... I think they did it for the case ... If for the same volleyball players it is quite possible to win the World Cup ... Then there is no football in our country. You remember ... No one thought that they would leave the group ...

I learned to play Saxon here in old age ... no one expected this from me! including me ... where can I get the order of Alexander Nevsky to get?

[Siberia 9444]

You can think of the hero of cosmanafta, medals, concerts! Rave

[rocket757]

A joint dinner and warm words were enough ... if such a great admirer of football.
So it would be quite adequate .... our power will become inadequate, however, while medals are not hung on themselves, we can because the "buns" are loved by others, they love very much!

[bald]

Hello Victor. “Lower and lower and lower — high flight of“ our ”birds. (Song)“ - I’m wandering into the garden.

[Phil77]

Vladimir, good morning! A wise and right decision. Probably babble from the garden ?!

[bald]

To the topic, sport is our friend, so we don’t touch it (old joke). Just returned - a thunderstorm drove out and the birds are low like yours in the morning.

[bald]

Very cool if not for mosquitoes.

[Masya masya]

oh well, excelled get a bonus! in ancient times, awarded for good work ... encouragement - 10 rubles as I remember

[Phil77]

Quote: Masya Masya

oh well, excelled get a bonus! in ancient times, awarded for good work ... encouragement - 10 rubles as I remember

The prize is of course glorious, but the prestige of state awards of the Russian Federation from such awards can noticeably fall.

[mvg]

They already had a premium for reaching 1/4 ... What do you mean, both material (400 thousand each) and the fact that they raised their price in the market ... Won Golovin from 12 million to 30, and give the state a reward to the mustachioed Ossetian .. WHAT? Did he set the game? Just lucky, a football game like that.

[LSA57]

Quote: Mussashi

The insanity of the guarantor began to grow stronger!

insanity among those who could not become the PRESIDENT. and you are on the couch

what's the next order?

[New Year day]

Quote: LSA57

who could not become the PRESIDENT.

But how did Putin become president? Who and for what pulled him out of Peter under the eyes of EBN?
And whom could EBN see through a glass?

[LSA57]

Quote: Silvestr

Quote: LSA57

who could not become the PRESIDENT.

But how did Putin become president? Who and for what pulled him out of Peter under the eyes of EBN?
And whom could EBN see through a glass?

6

[LSA57]

Quote: LSA57

Quote: Silvestr

Quote: LSA57

who could not become the PRESIDENT.

But how did Putin become president? Who and for what pulled him out of Peter under the eyes of EBN?
And whom could EBN see through a glass?

6

Pulled out? man, what attitude who coh pledged? and what does it have to do with the site? didn't get it? boobs masiski in memory forget

[Nonna]

It’s good that he is our President and gives awards to anyone who gets in, no matter how we live under some sort of Navalny, we have stability and security, confidence in the future and gas with oil, from which nothing falls for us except the increase in VAT and pension age over 65

[bald]

What do not say - this is pure drawing and window dressing. Sport is a struggle for victory, the winner is awarded.

[Evgeniy667b]

Why does Russia need such football at all? A bunch of chosen ones who have in mind, who will give how much !. Such football is easier to disperse than to expect results from it. Now even the thought that once it all started with courtyard teams is somehow more like utopian tales .. Do they even have these courtyard teams somewhere ???

[Phil77]

Quote: Evgeniy667b

Why does Russia need such football at all? A bunch of chosen ones who have in mind, who will give how much !. Such football is easier to disperse than to expect results from it. Now even the thought that once it all started with courtyard teams is somehow more like utopian tales .. Do they even have these courtyard teams somewhere ???

Yes, guys are cutting on the playground in the next house. I'm going to work, and they are playing. Beauty! And what about the overclock, well, overclocked, then what? Football has millions of fans in the country and this is a really beautiful game.

[andrewkor]

Well, handed and handed. We must think wider!
And I propose to promise for the next championship: for reaching the final Hero of Russia, for the Victory of Twice Hero! And in order to establish busts in the homeland of Heroes, according to status, it’s necessary!
Cherchesov promised to perform in Qatar even better!

[Litvinov]

Yes Yes! And by 300-400 serfs!

[VIT101]

Quote: andrewkor

Cherchesov promised to perform in Qatar even better!

How could you put this person with the habits of the Asian dictator at the head of the team? For the result at all costs?

[andrewkor]

Do you mean Saaddam, ours, Hussein !?

[New Year day]

around a strange approach to the same laws and principles.

we have the same "double" standards as the EU and the US, and we live by their own laws. Why be surprised?

[igor67]

Quote: Silvestr

around a strange approach to the same laws and principles.

we have the same "double" standards as the EU and the US, and we live by their own laws. Why be surprised?

purely for the sake of cognition, and what in the EU and the USA are there such titles of ZMS, MS, or People’s Artist or Honored Artist?

[New Year day]

Quote: igor67

that in the EU and the USA there are such titles ZMS, MS, or People’s Artist or Honored Artist?

interest Ask! I think no.

[Phil77]

Quote: igor67

Quote: Silvestr

around a strange approach to the same laws and principles.

we have the same "double" standards as the EU and the US, and we live by their own laws. Why be surprised?

purely for the sake of cognition, and what in the EU and the USA are there such titles of ZMS, MS, or People’s Artist or Honored Artist?

No, there are no such titles! It’s all easier or you are a sports star, a movie, etc. Or just an athlete, an actor further down the list.

[igor67]

it can take over experience, it’s not stupid to copy, but still, I’m a simple worker, if I work qualitatively they can be rewarded with a prize, although we have an award, an excellent worker in production, the president gives the best employees, until recently, I don’t know.

[Loginoff]

Of course you need to reward. Retirement at 65.

[igorra]

The awards were given not for the place taken, but for how they fought. Agree, the football players surprised everyone, after the champagne and the hookah of the previous players, we transferred our attitude to these. As soon as we did not crap them, and they took and made us apologize. But Gamova can say one thing - envy is a bad thing, it would be better to rejoice for the guys along with the whole country.

[Phil77]

Quote: igorra

The awards were given not for the place taken, but for how they fought. Agree, the football players surprised everyone, after the champagne and the hookah of the previous players, we transferred our attitude to these. As soon as we did not crap them, and they took and made us apologize. But Gamova can say one thing - envy is a bad thing, it would be better to rejoice for the guys along with the whole country.

I don’t agree! In sport, the criterion for the award is only one - medals are bronze, silver, gold. Yes, they fought, but they fought, they forced themselves to respect. But no more.

[sib.ataman]

Phil, are you like Bill? Is it a shame for the power? Have you done much for her?

[Phil77]

Quote: sib.ataman

Phil, are you like Bill? Is it a shame for the power? Have you done much for her?

But don’t you? I’m doing everything that depends on me, I’ve been working from the age of 17 to the present day, and believe me I’m not sitting in my pants. Is it not enough? Then I asked the same question.

[victor50]

Quote: sib.ataman

Phil, are you like Bill? Is it a shame for the power? Have you done much for her?

This is on the principle: "Who are you?" And what did you do? To ask such questions?

[Semyonych]

If the cook tried, tried, but did dinner turn sour? Award to him or in the face?

[sib.ataman]

Incorrect question! The cook only cooks, and lunch is kept by others. faces if not in the know.

[Million]

The boys fought in the war in Chechnya, too. No money whatsoever.

[sib.ataman]

They are not, and you are a million-million red roses!

[Olddetractor]

Dishonest and unsportsmanlike. Dance to the tune of someone else

[sib.ataman]

Dance to yours! If you know how to play the pipe!

[Grandfather Makhno]

Yes, they are all tritors and government and sportsmen

[sib.ataman]

Did you mean tweeters? But I believe that at the time of writing the comment you did not imagine yourself a fiery platform on an armored car?

[Observer2014]

I propose directly to enroll the whole team of loser football players in United Russia and put him in a thought In the Kremlin, they love athletes. And athletes

[alexnmv5]

If awarded, then it is necessary. For a non-football country, the guys showed a decent result. For example, I and many of my friends football to the bulb. Hockey - yes !!! I love you. And not because we are among the strongest there, but because there are practically no accidents there. The really strong wins.

[Boris55]

Our libiroids, whatever Putin does, the main thing is to write nasty things about him as much as possible. Some on the site were led to this scam - sorry.

[victor50]

Quote: Boris55

Our libiroids, whatever Putin does, the main thing is to write nasty things about him as much as possible. Some on the site were led to this scam - sorry.

But to such lovers as you are expanse! and a reason to lick, bend another! Story!

[Cannonball]

Actually, it’s not Gamow who decides who is worthy of the VMS and who is not. And if she wants to adhere to the Regulation on the appropriation of VMS, then let her read paragraph 11, which gives the right to such an award to football players. Moreover, this is not the first time that this title was not awarded for the championship. Perhaps this is the usual envy and resentment. And to everyone who agrees with her opinion, I propose to first go to the quarterfinals of the World Cup ... Yes, at least just get into the national team.

[Million]

Then hockey players need to be awarded the title of Heroes of Russia!

[Cannonball]

If they win the World Cup

[sib.ataman]

Strange these people are athletes! Like artists and other bohemian people. Do not reward worthy-bad! For once, the national team excelled at the World Cup, awarded! Even worse! And that they had to be subjected to general condemnation? Or would a GDP handshake be enough for them?
They love to engage in narcissism! Especially if someone gets better, and they get fewer rays of glory, they begin to drag the blanket over themselves, remind themselves of themselves in all accessible and inaccessible ways!

[Million]

a handshake and the amount of money earned would be enough

[Doliva63]

Quote: Million

a handshake and the amount of money earned would be enough

Did they really earn them? I have not forgotten what it is to earn.

[Phil77]

Quote: sib.ataman

Strange these people are athletes! Like artists and other bohemian people. Do not reward worthy-bad! For once, the national team excelled at the World Cup, awarded! Even worse! And that they had to be subjected to general condemnation? Or would a GDP handshake be enough for them?
They love to engage in narcissism! Especially if someone gets better, and they get fewer rays of glory, they begin to drag the blanket over themselves, remind themselves of themselves in all accessible and inaccessible ways!

As it was written above, breakfast, lunch, dinner (to choose at will) with the head of state would be quite enough. But state awards are too much.

[APASUS]

A gang of slanting boys ran to ZMS. Here's the news, so the news! Mercedes gave them or cost Porshiki?
Hypocrisy at the highest level, why be surprised now

[sib.ataman]

Here's a hedgehog marking your nickname, but we are not saying that you are a wry-handed tramp?

[APASUS]

Quote: sib.ataman

Here's a hedgehog marking your nickname, but we are not saying that you are a wry-handed tramp?

In order to get the ZMS, I had to conquer Everest, and not climb 1/4. Like many athletes.
And they are slanted, because they simply can’t get into the gates from 11 meters!

[Million]

Inadequate power and actions are inadequate. They already fucked up with their football ...

[sib.ataman]

No need to judge everyone by yourself!

[d1975]

I agree, both as a coach and as a former athlete! Yes, it was necessary to note, but no more than a mug of tea in such a circle! Well, who's to say that sport and politics are not compatible? This is a shame for me! It would be better if we thought about sports medicine so that athletes are not substituted so stupidly with doping. Yes, and you need to talk about it!

[Phil77]

Quote: d1975

I agree, both as a coach and as a former athlete! Yes, it was necessary to note, but no more than a mug of tea in such a circle! Well, who's to say that sport and politics are not compatible? This is a shame for me! It would be better if we thought about sports medicine so that athletes are not substituted so stupidly with doping. Yes, and you need to talk about it!

But this is very good idea! Especially if subsequently there will be no problems with doping.

[Old26]

I will say right away. I am not a fan, and even more so not a fan of football. But unlike the last World Cup, I watched all the matches with our team. The guys showed a game that no one expected from them. Well done, that reached at least the quarter finals. But about awards and honors. The awards in our country have long depreciated. Honorary title. In principle, it must be earned. I agree with those who took this award (ZMS) negatively. There is a status - it is necessary to observe it. And it really turns out that some get an ZMS for winning the finals, others for simply playing with dignity. State awards - okay, this is a separate issue. Wanted to mention? Well, there are options, as with the same Olympians, when they gave them a car.

Quote: alexnmv5

If awarded, then it is necessary. For a non-football country, the guys showed a decent result. For example, I and many of my friends football to the bulb. Hockey - yes !!! I love you. And not because we are among the strongest there, but because there are practically no accidents there. The really strong wins.

Played with dignity - a fact. But after giving them ZMS, officials, all the others who won this title of ZMS having made their way to the highest rung, actually devalued. It's like one gets the title of Honored Worker of Culture, having worked for 2-3 decades, and the second (second) gets it at the age of 20-25 years speaking at some competition. It is clear that everyone has their own limit, for example, I didn’t reach the CCM for pistol shooting, I remained a first-class player, but then they gave me exactly the job, and not because you performed well, but did not reach the winners.
Alas, such awards sometimes do harm than good. When, in the same culture, 20 years ago they gave a diploma to the "laureate" for some success in their performance (at a competition), and now they give it to everyone who comes - the value of this diploma becomes zero.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Old26

I will say right away. I am not a fan, and even more so not a fan of football. But unlike the last World Cup, I watched all the matches with our team. The guys showed a game that no one expected from them. Well done, that reached at least the quarter finals. But about awards and honors. The awards in our country have long depreciated. Honorary title. In principle, it must be earned. I agree with those who took this award (ZMS) negatively. There is a status - it is necessary to observe it. And it really turns out that some get an ZMS for winning the finals, others for simply playing with dignity. State awards - okay, this is a separate issue. Wanted to mention? Well, there are options, as with the same Olympians, when they gave them a car.

Quote: alexnmv5

If awarded, then it is necessary. For a non-football country, the guys showed a decent result. For example, I and many of my friends football to the bulb. Hockey - yes !!! I love you. And not because we are among the strongest there, but because there are practically no accidents there. The really strong wins.

Played with dignity - a fact. But after giving them ZMS, officials, all the others who won this title of ZMS having made their way to the highest rung, actually devalued. It's like one gets the title of Honored Worker of Culture, having worked for 2-3 decades, and the second (second) gets it at the age of 20-25 years speaking at some competition. It is clear that everyone has their own limit, for example, I didn’t reach the CCM for pistol shooting, I remained a first-class player, but then they gave me exactly the job, and not because you performed well, but did not reach the winners.
Alas, such awards sometimes do harm than good. When, in the same culture, 20 years ago they gave a diploma to the "laureate" for some success in their performance (at a competition), and now they give it to everyone who comes - the value of this diploma becomes zero.

Is a culture worker a pistol athlete? Cool!

[Blaster]

Clowning! And some still laugh at Brezhnev ..

[military pensioner]

"now we have practically paid off the external debts (even the Yeltsinsky ones), the golden egg capsule is much thicker than under the USSR ...."

Interesting about debts. And why then REQUIREMENT The IMF, our so-called "people's representatives" raised the VAT to 20% and increase the retirement age?

[Samara_63]

Gamow’s rights ... these millionaire loafers will never learn to play ... 1/4 finals ... and already heroes? Fu

[Sgt.]

The janitor of our house must be awarded the order! He fights in the winter with snow and ice - no football players can do it

[Alex Justice]

The merited must be given. What artist is a talker better than a janitor? Yes, nothing. One entertains the other, makes life better for others.

[sib.ataman]

Quote: Million

Then hockey players need to be awarded the title of Heroes of Russia!

So everyone needs it right away and star on their foreheads, especially if they have strained their brains, but rather a popular referendum or Maidan! So that later there was something to remember.

[Million]

The elderberry garden, and the uncle in Kiev ...

[sib.ataman]

Yes, exactly like in Kiev!

[Awaz]

Yesterday, too, I went nuts from this, when I saw in the telly that the authorities were distributing ZMS for 8th place.
Sadly, all this is happening. The officials and the players struck another bottom. Putin, by the way, is also ...

[sib.ataman]

Quote: Observer2014

I propose directly to enroll the whole team of loser football players in United Russia and put him in a thought In the Kremlin, they love athletes. And athletes

What observant are you?

[sib.ataman]

Quote: AwaZ

Yesterday, too, I went nuts from this, when I saw in the telly that the authorities were distributing ZMS for 8th place.
Sadly, all this is happening. The officials and the players struck another bottom. Putin, by the way, is also ...

Are you a choli diver? Do you know where it’s bottom is?

[sib.ataman]

Quote: Sergeant

The janitor of our house must be awarded the order! He fights in the winter with snow and ice - no football players can do it

So give it out! Turn on your knee, and on behalf of and on behalf of the whole yard! So what? Have a right-obschestvenny award!

[Pivasik]

a worthy loss turned into a triumph ... Good move. I agree with Gamova

[sib.ataman]

Quote: Samara_63

Gamow’s rights ... these millionaire loafers will never learn to play ... 1/4 finals ... and already heroes? Fu

And you are our hard worker! You pull the whole country on yourself! The head of the collective farm "Seven Years Without a Harvest" and the hill of the artel "Bright Path to the Deaf Wilds"!

[Alex]

Only three were awarded state awards (head coach, goalkeeper and the most “old” player), and the rest received certificates of honor.
The noise due to the awarding of the titles of Honored Masters of Sports. And according to the regulations, the VMS relies on victory or a prize. Exceptionally, “for outstanding contribution to enhancing the authority of the Russian Federation and Russian sports at the international level, with exceptional courage and skill shown.” So there is no violation.
Regarding the devaluation of the title. You must admit that the resonance from reaching the quarter-finals of the football World Cup, whatever one may say, is higher than from winning in those sports where you are used to victories. Although there were times when in 1964 head coach K. Beskov was removed for European Championship silver.
The highest achievement of the USSR national football team is bronze for 4th place at the 1966 World Cup. At the 2018 World Cup, the Russian team took an unofficial 5th place, because I didn’t lose in the main and extra time as the other “losers” of the quarter finals.
PS. And just a little over a month ago, the absolute majority mixed the Russian "rabble" with shit. It was bad form to speak well of pedestrians and people with disabilities.

[Awaz]

Alex, but nothing has really changed in relation to Russian football, from the bulk of the population. Well, yes, the Spaniards managed to get through luck somehow and not screw up (that is, not lose big) to the Croats, but in general - there wasn’t any particular outstanding game from the Russian sat. It was lucky for Cherchesov that in the first game Dzagoev “broke” and Cheryshev entered the field, as well as the snickering and bent-legged Samolov left the field. And only with Cheryshev and Dziuba did some glimpses of the real game begin to appear and then in places. But as soon as they were removed, everything rolled back to the usual game of the Russians: stupid and not attacking at all.
Believe me, in the next qualifying tournament - Russia’s Sat, if it enters the final part of the European Championships, then with a great creak they will not leave the group. But most likely they won’t even reach the final part. The only thing that can save the Sb of Russia again is the expansion of the championship participants in the environment of the Faroe Islands and Malta with Estonia - it may be lucky again.
There are not so many really good football players in Russia. A stable in general on the fingers can be counted. But even then this level is not even average in Europe

[AlexVas44]

The Russian team reached the quarter finals, which is the best result in its history. I don’t think that in the near future I will be able to repeat it.

[BAI]

what is the best result in her story. I don’t think that in the near future I will be able to repeat it.

So it is necessary to punish for it, and not to reward.

[Signaller]

And the law is that drawbar. Where I turned, there it turned out.

[sib.ataman]

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Clowning! And some still laugh at Brezhnev ..

They still laugh in the madhouse, recalling the Brezhnev era! And as they recall the current ones, they immediately ask for procedures.

[Yun Klob]

Gamow is right. This is rudeness.

[Topotun]

I agree with those who are against rewarding football players. Such awards reduce the value of awards. For Russian football, this is an achievement - reaching the quarter-finals. But USSR football also knew the best achievements. So it’s not the country, it’s the organization of modern football. And athletes of other sports show better results.

[Alex]

Until 2008, the ZMS also gave "setting a world record or 2 European records among adult athletes, registered in the established manner by the relevant international sports association, in sports disciplines included in the Olympic, Paralympic, and Deaflympic programs."

[Next]

And it’s better to make them deputies who obediently press buttons for themselves and for that guy. That's who will make our future bright. But seriously, some kind of circus ... found the same heroes to me. They are not in poverty, all millionaires, but they still had to give them awards for complete happiness, because they indirectly contributed to the adoption of 20% VAT, and on the way, and retirement))

[Prisoner]

They went overboard with ZMS. There is an order of appropriation which is no good to violate, otherwise the authority of the rank will come to naught. In general, the situation is normal. Caught in a stream and rained orders and ranks. For God's sake, but there must be order.

[PValery53]

Our players and their coach are great! But awards in Russia for some reason cheapen. "So someone needs this ..."

[Altona]

I completely agree with Ekaterina. She is the star of world-class Russian volleyball, all the girls want to reach her level. And then the players were awarded for successfully distracting the people from the introduction of serfdom. Some more political reward.

[BAI]

As always - double standards. Power is hypocritical even in sports.

[Andrey VOV]

Howled in the morning, raised the sofa srach, they all fell into one pile as usual .... Do you remember that today is a holiday? Or did your whole brain flood bile?

[Valeron45]

In O Turns into a wall of whiners and dissenters. Whatever anyone does, everything is bad. Some kind of echoprym.