We have nothing for the people. Neither authorities, nor deputies, nor opposition

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Not so long ago, we talked about the opposition. That with the total disgrace called “United Russia”, something needs to be done. What the Communists and the Liberal Democratic Party-are not the same, and in fact, under the EP go. Everything is so fair and logical.



From the other side it is called totalitarianism.

Well, actually, the way it is. We have a constitutional majority of the party who you know yourself, that it completely flies under totalitarian definitions.

Okay, then what?

And then on July 26, as soon as the FM-ban was removed from our city (the local authorities didn’t coordinate the meetings stubbornly due to the fact that Voronezh was on the list of World Cup cities. For a whole week one team lived, but oh well) TWO protest rally.

At different times and in different places.

Someone will say: you have nothing to do ... And, probably, he will be right. Of course, it would be wiser to make one big rally, where everyone would shout. But this was not done, and thank God.

So, the first action. Communist.

The gathering place is the center at the circus. A wonderful place, of course, for rallies, but apparently it was not found better. But the mountain of transport around, in the vicinity of factories and so on.



The communists gathered themselves a scene long before the start, and before the start of the show, Zyuganov's speeches were broadcast through the speakers.

It all started exactly in the stated 18 hours.

We have nothing for the people. Neither authorities, nor deputies, nor opposition


People gathered. Here, without fools and idle wobbly children on vacation, we estimated the crowd at thousands of 3-3,5. It didn’t work out from the height and more or less calculate it, the rain dripped, and the cockrover completely refused to take off. He humidity is contraindicated.

What can be said. After hearing a lot of baying in the crowd, I will say one thing: we are a vindictive people. The communists listened, but muttered that it was necessary in 1996 to take power and do everything humanly. And Zyuganov chickened out to steer, because it is easier to criticize. And now it is too late to drink Borjomi, we arrived.



Buhteli bukhteli, but listened, applauded and leaflets against the reform signed. And so, that after half an hour there was a line of people who wanted to put a signature, and the sheets ran out. I had to quickly buy paper, find a copy machine and print more. Young Communists and Young Communists coped with the task.

Honestly: well spoken. No dope, no insults (almost) in the case. If only the Communist Party of the Russian Federation would have worked ... Eh ...



















In principle, the photo shows who was hooked most of all by the living "pension reform." But there are younger people.

But it's time for us to move to meeting number two.

Admiralteyskaya Square on the Peter Embankment. Can be reached on foot, can be reached by car. Urban transport does not go there, go at least half a kilometer.



The man came 500. Plus, about a hundred just relaxing on the square staggered.

Posters are self-written mainly, but do not compare with the communist ones. Harder. But the surprises did not even begin in terms of quantity.

I saw the Solidarity flag in complete stunt. These are Bukovsky, Kasparov, Yashin, Nemtsov. Normal parish is not waiting.



Then the flag libertarian party. A black snake on a green background and something painted on English, I don't know him.



"An Apple". Well, yes, not with the Communists ...

Navalnovskim flags are generally not needed.

Here is such an interesting compass. The last day ("Apple", "Justice") and, possibly, the next day (Bulk and libery).

They began to say ... Oh, God ... No, it is clear that political puppies can grow into wolves from politics only in battles. I understand that Voronezh is a province. And you can send here any, that for Moscow or Nizhny is worthless. But so much so ...



In general, the non-systemic opposition is so bad that it is worse than ever.

It is clear that “all of them” came to the rally, for show. But here I come. A person of a certain age, until retirement, is recommended 15 (20). So what?

And what did I see / hear? The bleating of 23-25 age boys on the subject of what is disgusting, that Putin and his clique buy yachts and palaces for themselves. Pathetic. Chants on the theme of "Putin, go away", "Do not let yourself be robbed." Boring Some kind of stale books on NLP began to smell a bit before disgust.

Well, when one of the speakers began to rally protesters to chant "Lustration!", My partner could not stand it and said, they say, "Who does not jump, that is Putin," and jump ...

Surrounding tensed ...

In general, everything is clear. The tick is worth the event held. The boys skated, in the sense that they gave a shout into the microphone.

Poor, sad, old.

And this is the non-systemic opposition that scared us and which I wrote about a year ago? Who arranged the Swamp?



Sadness and grief.

In fact, these are slurred boys who cannot even speak like a human being. Okay, even though the poison was splashing, the Liberians in general, purely popirit themselves came. Join our ranks, we have fun. Revived "Vkontakte", the right word.











What is the result? No person (I mean myself), who is already sick of the EP and its leader, as well as from the leader supported by the party of its leader, a special choice. This is unfortunately.

I just don’t understand how this “non-systemic opposition” managed to arrange the Swamp. Just do not understand, to be honest. What did you have to be to follow these, who can't connect three words to the youngsters?

But for the Communists to go too, something is not very pulling, if very very frankly. Although they guys are smart and logical. And they say. I mean, at our city level, it is normally explained that, how much. With regards to VAT, especially, 97% simply does not understand yet how this outrage will end.

On the other hand, I understand that I will stand still - right here on the head and get it. Not a pension (more precisely, its absence), so the VAT or something else.

It is bad when there is no normal opposition to the ruling regime. Neither system nor non-system. No. The old Communist Party of the Russian Federation / LDPR has discredited itself, the new one ... It is better, probably, let the old one try to rehabilitate.

It may be better to take a risk again (the first time, perhaps) and give credit to the old than to admit the idea that such new ones will come to opposition. With chants and skipping ropes on the model and likeness of Ukrainian.

Sadly all this, to be honest.

Nothing happens, no. Like Bulgakov, the words of Woland. No government, no deputies, no opposition. There is nothing for the people.

Everything is in Ukraine, by the way. One to one.
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  1. +14
    29 July 2018 05: 49
    I agree with the author ... Great is Russia .. and there is nothing to replace EP ... These are the things we have now ... this is democracy, when the choice is between a woman with low social responsibility ... Old ... Very old ex ... And the clown ... These are our things ...
    1. +28
      29 July 2018 06: 00
      There are no irreplaceable ones wink
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        1. +12
          29 July 2018 11: 20
          We have nothing for the people. Neither authorities, nor deputies, nor opposition

          Well said! good With deep meaning and to the very point!
          Such a capacious phrase is sure to go down in history! This is the same as before the people rightly said: "Here you are, grandmother, and St. George's Day! crying
          1. +9
            29 July 2018 11: 31
            Quote: Tatiana
            Such a capacious phrase is sure to go down in history!

            And in the telegram channel "Vyborny" an amazing screenshot of the message appears, where someone requires "respected colleagues" to send posts on social networks in support of pension reform. And also, which is characteristic, the posts of those members of the same party who were “against”. In general, Pavlik Morozov has long been gone, but his work lives on.
            Please take a look at the screenshot ..
            https://www.pravda.ru/politics/26-07-2018/1389974
            -0 /
            As Pravda.Ru previously wrote, pension reform, which caused not only tension in society, but also a sharp drop in the rating of the Russian president, was recommended not to be carried out by security officials, but by Aleksey Kudrin and Sergey Kiriyenko.
            This is stated by the insider telegram channel “Pjar during the plague”: “It’s very significant how they try to convince the public that the decision on pension reform, which brought down the ratings of the authorities, was made not by Kudrin and his friends, bankrupt friends from the NPF, not the government, but the Security Council The Russian Federation. Like Patrushev is to blame for his resignation. But the true author of this wrecking reform is not the "Nazarov boy" from the Scientific Research Institute of the Ministry of Finance, but Aleksei Leonidovich Kudrin and the Center for Strategic Research led by him ".https: //www.pravda.ru/ news / society / 0
            5-07-2018/1388214-pension-0/
            And mind you, in the cities they rally. The people are really indignant, and from all the channels all kinds of entertainments and musicians are breathing in.
            1. +2
              29 July 2018 13: 32
              ... it never happened before, and here again ..
            2. +1
              31 July 2018 15: 40
              pension reform, which caused not only tension in society, but also a sharp drop in the rating of the president of Russia, was recommended not to be carried out by security officials to Vladimir Putin, but by Alexei Kudrin and Sergey Kiriyenko

              how can this be? Even schoolchildren understand that both are not at all in the subject and cannot reasonably say anything about pension reform and, by the way, did not say anything publicly. The pension reform has completely different authors, and the style is clearly the work of graduates of the cannibalistic higher school of economics (by the way, it is called so completely undeservedly - there is no theoretical work there, and applied projects are continuous failures). Handwriting familiar to Gaidar.
          2. +9
            29 July 2018 14: 02
            We have nothing for the people. Neither authorities, nor deputies, nor opposition

            Quote: Tatiana
            Such a capacious phrase is sure to go down in history!


            The phrase is really capacious.
            And in this capacity not only about power, but also about the people.
            About the people who expect some kind of miracle from the chosen personalities. And this already reminds the gamer of a slot machine.

            As a gamer endlessly pulls the lever of a machine gun, hoping that he will be lucky, so the people in the elections endlessly throw ballots in the ballot box, hoping that he will be lucky with the chosen one.

            Maybe it’s time to think about the reason: why do the “people's representatives” constantly turn to the people with their “strong rear”? After all, if this is repeated from year to year, then there is some kind of permanent reason.

            This reason is the inability of people to negotiate and interact with each other at the lowest level.
            Those who tried to organize something in their house, yard, can tell a lot about how difficult it is to organize people even for the things they need. Most have a desire for someone to volunteer and do everything for them. And they are ready to subscribe somewhere.
            But if people are not ready to organize even for the small, then it means that in order to expel the "people's chosen one" who has deceived them, people also will not organize.

            And why should the chosen one listen to people if he is not afraid of them?

            People have long been taught (even under the USSR) to organize themselves. And now they just need to realize:

            If people want to influence their chosen ones, they need to learn how to organize themselves.

            Start with something small - a house, a yard. Then try to expand your self-organization to several houses. You will gain invaluable experience, do useful things, feel your strength. And then you can take a step to the next level.
            Moreover - the next level will partially come running to you. Those "chosen ones" will come running first. And after them the parties will catch up.

            Because you will prove your right to be considered with your voice.

            There will be a lot of temptations. But treat them creatively and strategically. smile
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    2. +11
      29 July 2018 07: 58
      Vard
      I agree with the author ... Great Russia .. but there is nothing to replace EP ..

      I do not agree with the author! There is quite something to replace EP.
      We have nothing for the people. Neither authorities, nor deputies, nor opposition

      We have opposition - the Communist Party, the NPSR, good and others are not liberalists. We do not have a people - everyone hopes for a “king". fool
      1. +6
        29 July 2018 09: 30
        Quote: populist
        Opposition we have - the Communist Party, the NPSR, etc. are not liberals. At we have no people

        Again, fighters for national happiness, with the people no luck ... request recourse
        According to rough estimates, the rallies gathered approximately 1300-1500 and 500-800 hoursman accordingly

        For millionth Voronezh is a "mass" rallies, yes ....
        1. +2
          29 July 2018 09: 44
          Olgovich
          Again, fighters for national happiness, with the people no luck ...

          What can be done, it happens ... Tsar Nikolashka suffered 23 years ... wink
          1. +3
            29 July 2018 13: 32
            And then a catastrophe happened, the Bolsheviks came with beautiful slogans about a better life.
            1. +9
              29 July 2018 14: 13
              Vadim237 (Vadim)
              the Bolsheviks came with beautiful slogans about a better life.

              And they built a great superpower.
              1. +2
                30 July 2018 06: 37
                Quote: populist
                And they built a great superpower.

                A great superpower does not disintegrate - without world war, cataclysms, with the indifference of citizens and the "advanced" detachment
              2. 0
                31 July 2018 15: 43
                do not get hung up on the terms - a superpower or a mini-empire or a superorda or under-hegemony, or maybe just call a country - maybe it's easier?
                What matters is not the name, but what is behind it.
            2. +1
              2 August 2018 15: 14
              Vadim237
              "And then a catastrophe happened, the Bolsheviks came with beautiful slogans about a better life"

              If the knowledge of history is tight, can it be better to remain silent? When did you overthrow Nikolashka? In February. Have you heard of the February revolution? And the Bolsheviks came in October and picked up the power that was lying on the streets ...
          2. +1
            29 July 2018 13: 37
            ... Stalin travanuli in 1953, read about 30 years old reigned ...
            1. +1
              31 July 2018 15: 44
              Yes, what reigned there - you would have studied what real power was in his hands.
              And the difference between influence, authority and authority and law.
        2. 0
          31 July 2018 16: 32
          People have not yet become impoverished, so don’t strive for rallies - but for now ... maybe it’s not worth bringing the situation to the attention of the authorities? And the power completely lost the instinct of self-preservation ... bully
      2. +4
        29 July 2018 10: 43
        There is nothing for the people.

        -Simple, do you have migraines?
        -Nothing happens with us, we only have boredom!
      3. +3
        30 July 2018 21: 54
        Answer Dear, why the Communist Party did not nominate its candidate for election to the Omsk Region, believe it, the result would surprise not only edro, but the Communists themselves. But no, or the candidates are over, or one of the three?
        1. 0
          31 July 2018 16: 16
          prapor55 (Alexander) Yesterday, 01:54 ↑
          Answer Dear, why the Communist Party did not nominate its candidate for election in the Omsk region

          We need to work as a governor and show the result. It’s better to sit in the Duma and oppose everything. There will be no demand. In the Irkutsk region, the governor is a communist. Better not.
          1. +1
            1 August 2018 14: 09
            And I thought that he was stirring. Mudko came to us; he was taken to a long-term airport, 23 lard needed, 3 lane at Sheremetyevo cost 60. Mudko suggested instead of completing the airport to carry out Formula 1 in Omsk ?!
    3. +1
      29 July 2018 13: 38
      It is useless to change managers; the president is a person representing the interests of business elites, whoever you put there, he will either fulfill what they say or he will be devoured. This is capitalism, and the people in this system are nothing more than a resource.
    4. +2
      30 July 2018 06: 28
      It is bad when the ruling regime does not have normal opposition. Neither systemic nor non-systemic


      what a terrible word is the opposition.
      But in fact, nothing new has been invented.
      There must be a political conjuncture in the country.
      Strong parties, a working parliament and a strong opposition - otherwise it will be what you got now.
      but on VO 99% wrote - the opposition? Do you want Ukraine and Maidan?
      Let the white coilers jump.
      Well, it seems like no one is jumping (in the squares)
      And look at Kiselyov - so in general the people were just waiting for when such happiness as 20% VAT and an increase in retirement age fell upon him.
      Although everything is ready in the country so that people can freely express their opinion.
      Totally controlled parliament and federation council, president for the next 6 years and the Russian guard.
      in what, and not to deny the insight of the current government.
    5. +4
      31 July 2018 23: 42
      Today we live in an occupied country, there can be no doubt about that. What the enemies of our Fatherland did not manage to achieve on the battlefields, treacherously committed under the guise of democratic reforms, which for the past fifteen years have continuously continued to bomb Russia. Destruction and sacrifice - as in war, neglected fields and territories left in a hurry - as in retreat, poverty and homelessness, banditry and arbitrariness - as in the case of strangers. What is occupation? This device is a foreign order in the territory occupied by the enemy. Does Russia's current situation meet this condition? And how!
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  2. +2
    29 July 2018 05: 56
    It's good that I did not go to the polls good Those who walked now cannot hide their disappointment
    1. +37
      29 July 2018 06: 15
      everything is just beginning, protests will grow both quantitatively and qualitatively, experience will increase. The government itself has created the ground, or rather laid the bomb, apparently deciding that the people have reached a certain point of dullness. our people, as always, "harnesses for a long time ..." it’s a pity that everyone will actively stir up the water and provoke towards crime, but this was always the case. I don’t really want to get to the "tires" and pogroms, but the Medvedevs themselves lead to to this finale. and yes, I agree with R. Skomorokhov, we are little different from Ukraine, except for the absence of Nazi marches.
      1. +9
        29 July 2018 12: 11
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        everything is just beginning, protests will grow both quantitatively and qualitatively,

        Plato is my friend but the truth is dearer! (with)
        Yurich! Hey.
        Putin is the old KGB officer (GRU) ... Not a stupid person at all. and taught the history of the CPSU. Surely he remembers the signs of a "revolutionary situation." Therefore, he will do everything so that there is no "impoverishment of the masses of the people", otherwise "the tops will not be able, the lower classes will not want" ... But we can’t overcome the "fusion of power and capital" without blood, well! But human blood is not vodka ... Yeah ...
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        I really do not want the case to come to “tires” and pogroms, but the “Medvedevs” themselves lead to this ending.

        And who wants to let civil war into their home? Only to liberians, otherwise they cannot seize power. The people will not follow them. And without the support of the people, on Amer’s handouts, you won’t last long.
        About the "Medvedevites." This is still MEDVEUT! If Putin decided to tilt toward "the people" in domestic politics and increase his well-being, he would change the "manager", "treasurer" and "accountant". But no, the St. Petersburg fraternity - with "p ... e and epee", Plush on a horse on horseback, in a pose of BOUNAPARTY shows the country the "right path" to reform the pension system. So the full impression of "lack of will" is created by those who hold power in our Fatherland.
        About the opposition. Why did the Bolsheviks win? Yes, because they were among the people - in factories and factories ... They did not spare themselves, nor enemies. And we have a "professor" and a "clown" and another hooligan boy ... And that’s it. Libers do not count, they have sold out to Uncle Sam ... Who will believe them from normal people?
        That's how we live. And they could, as in Sweden, Norway ... If they returned the national ownership of the subsoil (at least!) But this is not even a question!
        And so we will continue ... If only there was no war! angry
        1. 0
          29 July 2018 13: 43
          ... the big people won because - everything is fine, a beautiful marquise, (do you disagree?) ...
    2. +4
      29 July 2018 06: 40
      Stupidity say sir. (First koment) In my city, in general, one person came out with a poster. Apparently we have all the rules!
      1. +22
        29 July 2018 07: 21
        Do you know what our people remind me of? Wet gunpowder. Ignite it so that the explosion is hard enough, but when it dries out from the tears of the government about the lack of money, it can explode so that it doesn’t seem enough.
        Andrey Yuryevich is right in the sense that everything reminds something. One pity that the interests of the people do not coincide with the state. And can the interests of power be considered the interests of the Fatherland? Does the people think that the old-new power population chosen by peaceful means (or administrative resources) will take care of it? And here, figurines ... These are not statesmen. If Putin were a statesman, he would be primarily concerned about the demographic issue, the extinction of the titular nation. If he doesn’t care, then there are two options: he has everything on the drum, except for the interests of the clan who placed him or he is not a representative of the titular nation. But in general, the mood is very nasty. On the one hand - fatigue from lies, on the other - a bag of troubled past years and the prospect of an undercover war for power.
        1. +3
          29 July 2018 07: 33
          Quote: ROSS 42
          If Putin were a statesman, he would be primarily concerned about the demographic issue, the extinction of the titular nation

          Quote: Strugatsky
          ... and animal husbandry !!

          Rossyou pull the owl again.
          The "demographic question" is nothing without defense, for example. Will you try to object, or will you dive into the mud again? wink
          1. +20
            29 July 2018 08: 09
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            The "demographic question" is nothing without defense, for example.

            Before writing “smart” words, be puzzled by the question. Why did the depopulation process begin again in 2014, and after answering it, now, in the light of Medvedev’s wild reforms, the same pension reform, tell me how all this liberal nonsense contributes to demography, and then defense .
            1. +7
              29 July 2018 08: 12
              Quote: The Swordsman
              Sweetheart

              What is your attitude delirium Does the comment have a completely specific question that I asked (I note - not to you)?
              That they came to protect the comrade-in is, of course, commendable ... but somehow it would be necessary to thinner ... and more carefully, or something request
              1. +22
                29 July 2018 08: 24
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                has to a completely specific question asked by me (I note - not to you)?

                While reading your numerous nonsense comments, I don’t even cross out, because they are perceived in exactly this way. I understand that the guard at the remote control has no time to train his mind to see reality, and not to remain in fantasies, lazily scratching his dog behind the ear.
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                but somehow it would be finer ... and more thoroughly, or something

                It’s enough for you to be deaf, intelligibly. Clearly and according to plan.
                134 thousand for the first half of the year, the excess of mortality over fertility and so on since 2014.
                1. +4
                  29 July 2018 08: 46
                  Quote: The Swordsman
                  to the guard at the remote, there’s no time to train your mind

                  Goofy ... but I already heard this from someone (now deceased) recourse
                  Gulchatay! Show your face?
                  Quote: The Swordsman
                  Enough for you and deaf ...

                  Hamim? And complain about the "fish" to the administration? Worthy of Muscovites, to some people ...
                  Quote: The Swordsman
                  134 thousand for the first half of the year ...

                  Arrows do not need to be translated, there was another question. And not for you.
                  Everything, evaporate. There’s no more talk with you. Before identifying wink
                  1. +17
                    29 July 2018 09: 34
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    Everything, evaporate. There’s no more talk with you.

                    Hamite? Well, yes .. what remains for the former Kot, now Jack, how not to cheat and not to cheat on people ..
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    Arrows do not need to be translated, there was another question.

                    Do not wag your tail, the question is about this and the answer is given to you about this, it’s difficult for you .. I understand ..
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    Enough for you and deaf ...
                    Hamim? And complain about the "fish" to the administration?

                    Are you a young lady?
                    Fi .. and I thought I was texting with a man .. and here it turns out to be a muslin lady. Who saw "rudeness" wherever he is not in sight, but she herself is rude to everyone and in everything ...
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    Gulchatay! Show your face?

                    Your identity does not interest me.
                    She is already known to everyone and causes a rejection reaction in many people.
                    Your fortune-telling on coffee grounds amuses. Continue.

                    And now the question for the development of intelligence - WHY 4 years in a row there is a depopulation of the population of Russia?
                    1. +4
                      29 July 2018 10: 39
                      Quote: The Swordsman
                      Hamite?

                      Where? If it’s true - complain to the admins, you wondered how quickly they reacted to the “fish” - I flew in 15 minutes before belay
                      Quote: The Swordsman
                      Are you a young lady?

                      To ask such questions on the Internet is easy, pleasant and, most importantly, safe.
                      understand Yes
                      Quote: The Swordsman
                      And now the question for the development of intelligence

                      I do not set myself the task of developing your intelligence. Yes, this is hardly possible.
                      Seriously, you can find a million reasons, and this is a topic for a good article, in fact.
                      Such articles are full on the internet, take it, use it, why am I here?
                      And - yes: try all the same ... more thoroughly, it’s painfully clumsy wink
                      PS: letter combination afdjhbn67 - reminds nothing? However, what am I talking about - well, of course not laughing
                      1. +8
                        29 July 2018 11: 12
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        I do not set myself the task of developing your intelligence

                        Don’t worry so much taller than you, you have to compete with jack ..
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Seriously, you can find a million reasons, and this is a topic for a good article, in fact.

                        all your mullions of reason fit into one line — the supremacy of liberal market relations in the country, social Darwinism, as yet in a mild form.
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        And - yes: try all the same ... more thoroughly, it’s painfully clumsy

                        Why are you so self-critical about your beloved?
                        A serious question for you, you as a schoolboy strive to turn everything into a clownery, we can talk with a doggie, he’ll be equal to you, for nothing that there is no need to answer him ..
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        the combination afdjhbn67 - does not remind anything? However, what am I talking about - well, of course not

                        Should it? Yandex gives out-https: //tainyvselennoi.ru/blog/43857136038
                        /Itogi-nedeli.- determinedApolitichno-rassuzhdayesh,-klyanu
                        s, -chestnoe-slov
                        and so
                        http://forum.topwar.ru/profile/273-afdjhbn67/
                        and so
                        https://super-orujie.ru/blog/43590247863/Itogi-ne
                        deli
                        Are you dissatisfied with something? Then forward to the specified address, look and find out.
                        True, what does your fortune-telling on coffee grounds have to me ... one doggie jack knows .. so your dog’s name is?
                      2. +5
                        29 July 2018 11: 37
                        Quote: The Swordsman
                        mine is above yours

                        Well, you won’t praise yourself - the day was wasted. So what? wink
                        Quote: The Swordsman
                        you compete with jack

                        Yes, Jack is a very intelligent dog. Yes
                        Quote: The Swordsman
                        the supremacy of liberal market relations in the country, social Darwinism

                        Oooo-oo-oo-oo ... rushed to the bumps ...
                        Were you not a political officer, an hour? It’s painfully recognizable style ...
                        Quote: The Swordsman
                        Should it?

                        Judging by your reaction - just owes.
                        Okay, I'll leave you for a while ... business. Frolic while the aquarium is clean, the pike is gone for lunch laughing
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                  3. +1
                    30 July 2018 08: 57
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    Quote: The Swordsman
                    to the guard at the remote, there’s no time to train your mind

                    Goofy ... but I already heard this from someone (now deceased) recourse
                    Gulchatay! Show your face?wink
                    WOW! !!!! This is what the deceased and who heard ?? Incomprehensible and suspicious! !!!! It was these words about the guard that V.O.Shpakovsky wrote to Uncle Murzik 2,5 years ago. I well remember Uncle Murzik, for more than 1,5 years he has not been with us. None of you can be Shpakovsky or Uncle Murzik !!!! But ..... Nonsense is always interesting !!!!!!
              2. +14
                29 July 2018 09: 48
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Quote: The Swordsman
                Sweetheart

                What is your attitude delirium Does the comment have a completely specific question that I asked (I note - not to you)?
                That they came to protect the comrade-in is, of course, commendable ... but somehow it would be necessary to thinner ... and more carefully, or something request

                Jack stepped into your tongue, you have nothing to say.
                1. +5
                  29 July 2018 10: 28
                  Quote: free
                  free

                  Free ...
                  ROSS's good bracing, however, today laughing
                  True, they are not dancing too skillfully ... but there are LOTS of them belay
                  1. +11
                    29 July 2018 10: 51
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    Quote: free
                    free

                    Free ...
                    ROSS's good bracing, however, today laughing
                    True, they are not dancing too skillfully ... but there are LOTS of them belay

                    Squashed the tongue, reflexive.
                    1. +4
                      29 July 2018 10: 53
                      Quote: free
                      Crushed the tongue

                      You? My condolences. Mine is with me, if it is wink
                      Quote: free
                      reflect

                      Nah ... here I wait until the machine reaches. Then I’ll go around the city for a day off request
                      And you dance, dance ...
                      1. +5
                        29 July 2018 19: 30
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Quote: free
                        Crushed the tongue

                        You? My condolences. Mine is with me, if it is wink
                        Quote: free
                        reflect

                        Nah ... here I wait until the machine reaches. Then I’ll go around the city for a day off request
                        And you dance, dance ...

                        And you reflect.
            2. +10
              29 July 2018 09: 24
              I have three sons, 14 years old, 9 years old and 5 years old ... Always wanted a daughter, but after 14 years old I had to give up this dream ....
              1. +7
                29 July 2018 12: 30
                Quote: Minus
                We always wanted a daughter, but after 14 of the year I had to abandon this dream ....

                Today is the 18-th !!! You can return to the "fulfillment of dreams"! Believe me: daughter is more than a wife! Give birth - you will understand! Yes
                Good luck! drinks
        2. +4
          29 July 2018 07: 38
          Quote: ROSS 42
          If Putin were a statesman, he would be primarily concerned about the demographic issue ...

          Tell me, what are your shades of Putin’s May Decrees that determine the country's movement for the next 6 years?
          1. +25
            29 July 2018 08: 12
            Quote: Boris55
            Tell me, what are your shades of Putin’s May Decrees that determine the country's movement for the next 6 years?

            You have no complaints?
            Are they fulfilled?
            How many and what?
            Who is to blame and why?
            And what to do with sabotage?
            Maybe it’s time for the conservatory, where do the false melodies come from, they say they’ve done a mustache and done it, close it?
            Really do not see-EP as a party of big capital, a service of the nouveau riche objectively an obstacle to the development of the country?
            1. +4
              29 July 2018 08: 25
              Quote: The Swordsman
              Who is to blame and why?

              Decrees determine the general direction. Their concretization, in the preparation of the country's budget, which will be considered in the autumn session by the Duma, is carried out by the government, headed by Medvedev, and the adoption of relevant laws by the Pro-Medvedev Duma. How many decrees will be financed and what laws will be adopted - how many decrees will be implemented.
              Quote: The Swordsman
              And what to do with sabotage?

              Do not vote for them at all in the election. Block them access to power.
              Quote: The Swordsman
              Really do not see-EP as a party of big business

              That is exactly so. Only Putin has something to do with it? He refused her services back in the 2012 year, going to the polls with the ONF, which he also refused, and went as an independent in the last elections.
              1. +19
                29 July 2018 08: 34
                Quote: Boris55
                Do not vote for them in all elections

                interesting ... and who voted, units, but in the sum "counted" what everyone saw.
                Quote: Boris55
                Only Putin has something to do with it? He refused her services back in 2012, having gone to the polls with ONF, which he also refused, and went as an independent in the last elections.

                the king is good .. the boyars are bad .. and who appointed them again?
                1. +3
                  29 July 2018 08: 36
                  Quote: The Swordsman
                  interesting ... and who voted, units, but in the sum "counted" what everyone saw.

                  Do you have an alternative choice of power? I hope - not Maidan?
                  Quote: The Swordsman
                  and who appointed them again?

                  We. We, when the Duma chose EP, which approved such a prime minister and such a government.
                  1. +5
                    29 July 2018 09: 10
                    If someone does not know what the Duma we have chosen is doing:

                    0: 19 - conviction new government;
                    0: 29 - a package of bills pursuant to Decrees;
                    2: 15 - work on the budget.
                    I wish everyone flying in the clouds to descend to the ground.
                    1. +11
                      29 July 2018 09: 42
                      Quote: Boris55
                      If someone does not know what the Duma we have chosen is doing:

                      The EP you have chosen is doing whatever it takes, including simulating violent activity together with the Liberal Democratic Party, but here is the thing that the country needs from their body movements
                      Quote: Boris55
                      a package of bills pursuant to decrees;

                      This imitation, since 2012, many years have already passed and a lot of money has gone into the desert, there’s no sense. Import and still there, say thank you for your choice.
                      Quote: Boris55
                      work on the budget.

                      Yes, yes .. the work of a certain deputy Makarov is especially “pleasing”, along with Isaev ...... they work like that, they work like that. Since Yeltsin .. not tirelessly. A lot and other things ..
                      1. +4
                        29 July 2018 10: 41
                        Quote: The Swordsman
                        EP you selected

                        And you too. I do not oppose the people. But one thing is already pleasing that you have at least begun to understand something in the responsibilities of a particular authority.
                      2. +12
                        29 July 2018 10: 55
                        Quote: Boris55
                        And you too.

                        Boris, you, as a true sectarian of KOB, are trying to impose a false promise to people - in essence, you are urging you not to go to any elections whatsoever, which means they won 1 for United Russia. All of them won - there is no opposition in the country, DUMA consists of ryakvasgasers and your fate in this case is sad.
                        Quote: Boris55
                        But one thing is already pleasing that you have at least begun to understand something in the responsibilities of a particular authority.

                        You do not try to pretend that I wrote something that is not in accordance with the realities. And not with your co-fantasy.
                      3. +1
                        3 August 2018 10: 16
                        Sweetheart
                        "especially" pleases "the work of a certain deputy Makarov, a couple with Isaev ...... they work like that, they work like that"

                        You are angry! Makarov plows so much, plows so much that he apparently lacks sleep and forgets to eat, the centner of weight has thrown off so much plows!
                  2. +16
                    29 July 2018 09: 38
                    Quote: Boris55
                    Do you have an alternative choice of power? I hope - not Maidan?

                    Have you got a record that seems to you around Maidan?
                    Maybe for a start, all those who are guilty of mukhlezh with ballots will sit down for 10 years, starting with some wizards, so that the authorities finally fulfill their mission, the LAW is the same for everyone? And is the crook obliged to sit in a turma, and not in a public place?
                    Quote: Boris55
                    We. We, when in the Duma chose E

                    If you chose them by voting for the "homeland" then ask yourself all the questions and address, rather than nod to others.
                    1. +2
                      29 July 2018 09: 44
                      Quote: The Swordsman
                      Maybe for a start. All those who are guilty of muhlezh with ballots will sit for years at 10,

                      I am for. How are you going to do this? I propose choosing a Duma that formalizes our desire into law.
                      Quote: The Swordsman
                      If you chose them by voting for the "homeland"

                      Under WE I understand all who came to the polls, as a result of which the vast majority of citizens voted for EP. I do not oppose the people. I respect the opinion of the majority, although I do not agree with him.
                      Do you have another way to choose power? I have. Make ballots registered, with the right to check how my vote has been counted at any time, and stored for at least 25 years, and not as it is now - after a year to be destroyed. But before that, there is much more to be done.
              2. +13
                29 July 2018 09: 43
                Boris55, you already tortured with your presidential general direction!
                - Go here!
                - Good. How to go?
                - How do I know? But you have to go there!
                1. +14
                  29 July 2018 09: 48
                  Quote: sabakina
                  - Go here!
                  - Good. How to go?
                  - How do I know? But you have to go there!

                  The description of those fluttering in three pines ... and Boris bleeds that way. Suddenly. The truth at times writes the right things.
                  Quote: Boris55
                  I have. Make ballots registered and stored for at least 25 years, and not as it is now - after a year they must be destroyed.

                  However, with the addition, the completed TEC report with the signatures of the members should be kept for 30 years, and as soon as someone wrote a statement that there is a violation and it is opened by stuffing or something else. With the whole composition of the TEC. After that and those above in the tundra. deer graze, offspring to count, 25 years so.
                  1. +11
                    29 July 2018 09: 56
                    Nikolay, I also noticed for a long time that he has enlightenment of the brain. But, somehow strange, a person should have his own, a certain position .... I also understand that in the civilian period of 1917-1922. people, especially in the countryside, really did not understand the situation in the country ... But right now, after the general educational program, electrification and industrialization of the whole country, the Second World War, virgin lands .... request
                  2. +2
                    29 July 2018 10: 06
                    Quote: The Swordsman
                    Description of gurgling in three pines.

                    I get it. You have no suggestions. Everything is as usual - to the bottom, and then - whatever happens laughing
                    1. +8
                      29 July 2018 10: 31
                      Quote: Swordsman (Nikolai)
                      I have. Make ballots registered and stored for at least 25 years, and not as it is now - after a year they must be destroyed.
                      However, with the addition, the completed TEC report with the signatures of the members should be kept for 30 years, and as soon as someone wrote a statement that there is a violation and it is opened by stuffing or something else. With the whole composition of the TEC. After that and those above in the tundra. deer graze, offspring to count, 25 years so.

                      I understand .. it’s hard to read and understand what is written, and it’s even harder for the KOB apologist to learn. The sectarianism is not doing well.

                      Quote: Boris55
                      sho as usual - to the bottom, and then - whatever happens

                      You sweat my dumber than I thought of you.
                      In February 17, yes, the ground just smashed the country, in October 17 it was rebuilt, in August 1991, the country was smashed to the ground again, so who are you? Split personality? Logic is lame? Don't you really understand what happened or pretend to be?
                2. +1
                  29 July 2018 10: 02
                  Quote: sabakina
                  Boris55, you already tortured with your presidential general direction!

                  It's not me. It is our Constitution that determined the president to determine the general direction. Art. 80 n.3. President of the Russian Federation in accordance with the Constitution of the Russian Federation and federal laws defines the main directions domestic and foreign policy of the state.
                  1. +5
                    29 July 2018 10: 06
                    Boris, let's say. BUT, he should know a way to go through this direction, or just throw it as an apport, and then there, as you want? ... In short, he’s a normal man, but he’s far from Stalin.
                    1. +1
                      29 July 2018 10: 14
                      Quote: sabakina
                      he must know the way of passing this direction

                      Yes, and we know him. Putin does not make laws. They are accepted by the Pro-Medvedevskaya Duma. He does not have the right to manage the country's money - this is done by Medvedev with the government and his Duma. So, as much as Medvedev wants, as much as Putin’s good wishes will be fulfilled.
                      By simple.
                      Husband, for example, gives you all the money. That's how much you will give him a banquet on his birthday, that's how much he walks around. He can dream of a restaurant, and in the rial he can mark in the gateway.
                      Will the husband’s friends be offended not by him? Yes. And who do you think they will blame? laughing
                      1. +7
                        29 July 2018 10: 21
                        Boris, well, her God, primitive comparison with family! The country has NO money! There is money of TAXPAYERS! The question is that some ....
                      2. +12
                        29 July 2018 10: 36
                        Quote: Boris55
                        Putin does not make laws. They are accepted by the Pro-Medvedevskaya Duma. He does not have the right to manage the country's money - this is done by Medvedev with the government and his Duma. So, as much as Medvedev wants, as much as Putin’s good wishes will be fulfilled.
                        By simple.

                        Primitive.
                        A miserable interpretation of the role and place of the President.
                        According to your logic, it turns out that he is nobody, cannot call anything, is not capable of anything and does not solve anything.
                        The question is why in that case the one who can’t do anything, doesn’t want, cannot at the head of the country, you have mixed up everything and everything and got confused in your illogical constructions or you really don’t catch everything that’s being done. It is done by one force, they are interconnected and this whole game of the good king and rotten boyars is a distraction.
                        Focus and think again - who, for what and why is responsible for the situation inside the country.
            2. +9
              29 July 2018 08: 58
              It’s pointless for them to explain something lol Logic thinking is not of this world good
              1. +7
                29 July 2018 09: 54
                Quote: RaptorF22
                It’s pointless for them to explain something. Logic is not thinking from this world.

                What is your logic?
                Quote: RaptorF22
                It's good that I did not go to the polls

                What is this? They would go, they would vote at least for the anarchists, at least for the monarchists, you look, and the Constitutional Court will allow what you so dream of.
              2. +3
                30 July 2018 23: 33
                I, too, have already discussed with Boris55 on this subject, so much so that "signing what Medvedev has slipped to him is his honorable duty." The meaning of everything that the monster Medvedev forced to sign a decree on his appointment and now all power is in his hands. And if, all of a sudden, Putin decides to fire Medvedev and disperse the Duma, then the whole civil war, we all die, 1993.
          2. +10
            29 July 2018 09: 50
            Quote: Boris55
            Quote: ROSS 42
            If Putin were a statesman, he would be primarily concerned about the demographic issue ...

            Tell me, what are your shades of Putin’s May Decrees that determine the country's movement for the next 6 years?

            There is a claim, they are not being fulfilled! And nothing is being done to ensure that they are fulfilled. Enough !?
            1. +1
              29 July 2018 09: 57
              Quote: free
              There is a claim, they are not fulfilled!

              And who should fulfill them? laughing Above, I posted a video from the closure of the next session of the State Duma. Maybe you will find the answer there.
              1. +9
                29 July 2018 10: 04
                Quote: Boris55
                Quote: free
                There is a claim, they are not fulfilled!

                And who should fulfill them? laughing Above, I posted a video from the closure of the next session of the State Duma. Maybe you will find the answer there.

                Here you wrote in the commentary above that it is necessary to make personalized ballots, but who will give you! And then again I remember you when you said that Putin gives everyone the opportunity to grow up as a person in the struggle for freedom. Maybe you can try, but not to offer the Maidan ( it's you again). You Boris are not convincing, at all. Stop busting, choose a single position already. No longer rolls all sisters for earrings.
                1. +3
                  29 July 2018 10: 25
                  Quote: free
                  Stop bustling, choose a single position already. All sisters are no longer rolling on earrings.

                  We need to recognize the power we possess and the consequences that come from our choice. Revolutions, maidans in people's heads do not change anything, but only create the illusion of a change of power and give rise to hope for a good gentleman.

                  About the electoral system.
                  More precisely about some aspects of this. We all go around, or at least they heard about the elections and what means are spent on controlling this scam at polling stations. So you know how your vote was counted? No, and I don’t know how mine was taken into account. Voting ballots are faceless and as soon as they get into the ballot box they cease to be ours, they become common and you can take off whatever you like. No, not at polling stations, there control is observed. But then, where do they get and what is done with them - only God knows.
                  In our country there are no watered prisoners, no one is being persecuted for political beliefs, there is not any discrimination on the basis of party or non-partisan status - so why is the vote secret? I think that it is beneficial only to those in power - to give slaves the illusion of choice without giving the choice itself.

                  This is on the one hand, and on the other.
                  Everyone knows that only shoemakers can choose the best shoemaker. The best baker can choose - bakers. It is impossible to entrust the choice of manager to the managerically illiterate people. That is why in our elections there is a competition of figures, and not their programs.

                  What is the danger of such a situation for society.
                  The elite that has usurped the right to govern and for the sake of its further prosperity does not allow anyone from outside, which leads to its degradation, as a result of which the effectiveness of governance and degradation of the whole society as a whole decreases and, ultimately, to the collapse of the state or the violent change of the elite ( revolution).

                  And the favorite question of all indifferent citizens to the fate of the motherland is what to do.
                  Just as in 1917, the question of general literacy was acute, today it is also necessary to raise the question of general managerial literacy. Only after that, as the people master the basics of management, it will be possible to introduce personalized ballots with the right to control how everyone’s vote is taken into account at all stages of counting.
                  1. +3
                    30 July 2018 23: 39
                    I took care of you, you will not discuss, but you do not get tired to surprise me. Here you are right Boris, how to achieve this?
              2. +8
                29 July 2018 12: 41
                His team does not execute them. His own appointee of the bears.
                Link to the State Duma is not appropriate. The executive branch is not there.
                1. 0
                  29 July 2018 16: 49
                  Quote: Valery Gagarin
                  Link to the State Duma is not appropriate. The executive branch is not there.

                  How's that? wassat
                  The executive branch acts within the framework of laws adopted by the Duma.
          3. +5
            29 July 2018 12: 39
            The claims are the same. Then nothing verbal chatter is performed. Words alone tell us how to live well after 3-5-7 years .... There are no cases (good - so that people live better).
        3. +7
          29 July 2018 09: 00
          If he doesn’t care, then there are two options: he has everything on the drum, except for the interests of the clan who placed him or he is not a representative of the titular nation.

          according to his mother, he is Shalomov - this is the answer to all questions.
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            1. +4
              29 July 2018 11: 24
              Vyacheslav, according to my observations (and I have something to watch), 90 percent of those who are preoccupied with national ideas, titular nations, etc. mean fitting all living under the standard of concern, i.e. you must be Russian, and be a Tatar in the kitchen, if you want. This is a simplified example. In a multinational country, this approach will lead to increased separatism. It can only be restrained by force. And Putin’s foreign partners will fly to use force and will launder for a long time and without success. Do you need it? I repeat, your strength is in unity.
        5. +1
          29 July 2018 13: 35
          Explosions were already dried and produced, the first in 1917, the second in 1991, the third in Ukraine 2014 - the results of all these explosions are complete about - in all areas of society.
      2. 0
        29 July 2018 09: 09
        And what is your city? In the profile there is no reason ... Shy or afraid? I don’t have either a name or a middle name, but there is a city.
        1. +2
          29 July 2018 09: 47
          Minus, as I understand it, "Eugene" is this your underground nickname? wink
  3. +6
    29 July 2018 06: 09
    That's what happens when a party in a country is in fact one winked there are many names and everywhere the same what winked
    1. +2
      29 July 2018 06: 27
      In my humble understanding, politics is really a very dirty thing, therefore there are no normal people there. And there are no normal people, there is no choice, but now there are only characters. hi
      1. +2
        29 July 2018 08: 52
        Phil77
        politics is really a very dirty thing, therefore there are no normal people there.

        It turns out that Obama, Trump, Merkel, Chairman Xi are crazy people? wink The list can be continued at your discretion from all times and peoples. hi
        1. +5
          29 July 2018 09: 43
          I don’t know how C, but the first three from your list come under the concept of "normal" with great difficulty.
    2. +6
      29 July 2018 09: 59
      Quote: RaptorF22
      That's what happens when a party in a country is in fact one winked there are many names and everywhere the same what winked

      In 1941, not in fact there was one party ... Nothing, they won the war ...
      1. +9
        29 July 2018 10: 44
        Quote: sabakina
        In 1941, not in fact there was one party ... Nothing, they won the war ...

        Yes, one thing ... the trouble is that now it’s the same, but the roles are different about the country and the people, according to those realities I’ve divided, these are about my pocket and a bunch of close ones, the difference is great .. VKPb and EP .... if you imagine the impossible. that in 2019, June 22, the neoreich under the auspices of NATO will rush at us .. or something that can mobilize the people ??
        These otmobilizovanny and slender ranks to .... in London with the Mayans will run away, during the surrender they will start and after shaking will be triple chins and proving. Mol "we fought" on the next Tashkent front ..
        1. 0
          29 July 2018 13: 42
          This is more like a fantastic story.
  4. 0
    29 July 2018 06: 10
    Rally everything
    1. +5
      29 July 2018 10: 01
      Yes, no, we collect mushrooms. In winter, come in to salt. Mom’s cool fists are obtained.
  5. +3
    29 July 2018 06: 21
    If they allow Starikov to register his party, there will be an alternative, moreover with strong support. If they merge him like last time, many will not go to the polls. They just won’t.
    1. +6
      29 July 2018 06: 29
      Does anyone believe in this election? what
    2. +3
      29 July 2018 09: 03
      If Starikov is allowed to register his party, there will be an alternative, moreover, with strong support

      Kolyunya Starikov is a political insignificance and just a talking head with low social responsibility.
      1. +2
        30 July 2018 23: 44
        Why didn’t they let his party go to the polls?
        1. +2
          1 August 2018 13: 49
          Quote: prapor55
          Why didn’t they let his party go to the polls?
          Do not wait for an answer to this question ... Someone has torn the template ....)
    3. +1
      29 July 2018 09: 20
      What will he give him? laughing
  6. +9
    29 July 2018 06: 26
    People wanted stability winked Now they all have a steady increase in everything wink What are they unhappy with? what And something is not visible to the Zagarant people? Fell asleep or what? lol
    1. +13
      29 July 2018 08: 24
      Quote: RaptorF22
      And something is not visible to the Zagarant people? Fell asleep or what?

      digest, conceptualize. You need to have the courage to understand that you were thrown
    2. +4
      29 July 2018 13: 30
      Quote: RaptorF22
      People wanted stability winked Now they all have a steady increase in everything wink

      Yeah ... As it turned out - Stability, she's so ...

      lol wassat
  7. +7
    29 July 2018 06: 27
    Miserable infantilism in everything. And the worst thing is that this state of society will not resolve itself.
    1. 0
      29 July 2018 09: 22
      Read the story ... It was, is and will be.
  8. +9
    29 July 2018 06: 39
    I especially like Zhirinovsky, then Vova pours mud, then kisses his hands, then appoints him the president of the whole world laughing
    1. +10
      29 July 2018 06: 53
      Quote: Siberia 9444
      I especially like Zhirinovsky, then Vova pours mud, then kisses his hands, then appoints him the president of the whole world laughing

      And I never liked him. When the son of a lawyer takes up the defense of the Russian people, this is alarming!
      1. +16
        29 July 2018 07: 24
        Quote: Phil77
        And I never liked him. When the son of a lawyer takes up the defense of the Russian people, this is alarming!

        And I don’t like the absence of the column “Against all” in the ballots. No.
        1. 0
          29 July 2018 13: 45
          Create your party “Against All” - there will be clear guys in it, offended by life and generally by everything
  9. +6
    29 July 2018 06: 48
    We have no opposition, we have "safety valves" so that the cover does not break. If it is clear that there will be a protest, then it must be led! So they slowly take them out (preferably in 2 places) to the streets, take a walk ... The whole opposition is nothing more than "carpet" during the deadly numbers of Putin and Co.
    When I saw the Communist Party’s application for a referendum, I thought - what an inarticulate wording it was ... But it was necessary! See the electorate? We tried!
    1. +1
      29 July 2018 07: 06
      So the best in the current situation is not to go if everything is clear who will be and who will become good
      1. +1
        29 July 2018 07: 29
        Quote: RaptorF22
        So the best in the current situation is not to go if everything is clear who will be and who will become good

        I’m already thinking about it myself! I don’t like playing someone else’s strange and profitable game for only one of the parties. hi
      2. AUL
        +5
        29 July 2018 08: 54
        Quote: RaptorF22
        So the best in the current situation is not to go if everything is clear who will be and who will become good

        Quote: Phil77
        Quote: RaptorF22
        So the best in the current situation is not to go if everything is clear who will be and who will become good

        I’m already thinking about it myself! I don’t like playing someone else’s strange and profitable game for only one of the parties. hi

        Well, do not go. It's so easy and simple - to fold the paws and not twitch, like, "we lose anyway!" But edru just this and it is necessary-they are all on party discipline all vote. And for you, who should rest? But then there will be a nagging, "here, again edro climbed ..."
        1. 0
          29 July 2018 10: 38
          Quote from AUL
          Quote: RaptorF22
          So the best in the current situation is not to go if everything is clear who will be and who will become good

          Quote: Phil77
          Quote: RaptorF22
          So the best in the current situation is not to go if everything is clear who will be and who will become good

          I’m already thinking about it myself! I don’t like playing someone else’s strange and profitable game for only one of the parties. hi

          Well, do not go. It's so easy and simple - to fold the paws and not twitch, like, "we lose anyway!" But edru just this and it is necessary-they are all on party discipline all vote. And for you, who should rest? But then there will be a nagging, "here, again edro climbed ..."

          Is there a concrete proposal? Only in the case, without common phrases? The more interesting is the reaction of the authorities to the sight of empty polling stations.
          1. AUL
            +6
            29 July 2018 14: 03
            Quote: Phil77
            Is there a concrete proposal? Only in the case, without common phrases? The more interesting is the reaction of the authorities to the sight of empty polling stations.

            Please! I will vote for the Communist Party (for the first time since perestroika) And not because I loved grandfather Zyu, but to delay votes from the snickering edra. In reality, some votes other than edra can gain the Communist Party and the Liberal Democratic Party. In sum, they theoretically can deprive at least a qualified majority in the Duma of edrosov. And if you're lucky - then the absolute. Although, of course, this is unlikely, the CEC is “able to take it.” There is no sense in voting for all kinds of apples - they definitely do not shine. To vote for Zhirik - the hand will never rise, and grandfather Zu is already completely "not eternal." You look, someone more adequate will come to replace. These are my thoughts.
            And about the reaction of the authorities to empty sections - yes, there will be no reaction, the turnout threshold was canceled precisely then, so as not to be afraid of an election boycott.
            I clearly understand that there are few chances to push in the edro, but they are there, and we must use them, and not go with the flow with a dull look - nothing can be achieved!
            1. 0
              29 July 2018 18: 15
              Quote from AUL
              Quote: Phil77
              Is there a concrete proposal? Only in the case, without common phrases? The more interesting is the reaction of the authorities to the sight of empty polling stations.

              Please! I will vote for the Communist Party (for the first time since perestroika) And not because I loved grandfather Zyu, but to delay votes from the snickering edra. In reality, some votes other than edra can gain the Communist Party and the Liberal Democratic Party. In sum, they theoretically can deprive at least a qualified majority in the Duma of edrosov. And if you're lucky - then the absolute. Although, of course, this is unlikely, the CEC is “able to take it.” There is no sense in voting for all kinds of apples - they definitely do not shine. To vote for Zhirik - the hand will never rise, and grandfather Zu is already completely "not eternal." You look, someone more adequate will come to replace. These are my thoughts.
              And about the reaction of the authorities to empty sections - yes, there will be no reaction, the turnout threshold was canceled precisely then, so as not to be afraid of an election boycott.
              I clearly understand that there are few chances to push in the edro, but they are there, and we must use them, and not go with the flow with a dull look - nothing can be achieved!

              Uv.Alexander! Do not believe it, but in all previous elections I voted for the Communist Party, mainly out of a feeling of protest. But you know, I’m already tired of participating in this. I decided to go into autonomous swimming as far as possible without touching these people. Naive? Probably? Yes. Well, I don’t have a recipe for how to turn the tide, anyway they will calculate it as it should.
    2. +11
      29 July 2018 08: 17
      Quote: Bastinda
      When I saw the Communist Party’s application for a referendum, I thought - what an inarticulate wording it was ... But it was necessary! See the electorate? We tried!

      You better read the wording of the EP, why referenda are prohibited in the country, you will be happy .. before you roll a barrel on the Communist Party, do something yourself, you can’t, do not bother.
      Quote: Bastinda
      The whole opposition is nothing more than "carpet" during the deadly numbers of Putin and Co.

      Naughty ... this is you about all sorts of outlets, dogs and Kasparovs with bulk and other ryzhkovs, certainly. Naughty ... you still call the leader of the opposition Stankevich ..
      Quote: Bastinda
      We have no opposition, we have “safety valves”, h

      True in terms of specifications for spoilers EP-LDPR and SR.
      1. +2
        29 July 2018 08: 54
        Naughty ... this is you about all sorts of outlets, dogs and Kasparovs with bulk and other ryzhkovs, certainly. Naughty ... you still call the leader of the opposition Stankevich ..

        Are you a supporter of the Communist Party? I have nothing against it, but that Zyuganov went to the polls 4 times, that Zhirinovsky 6. Excuse me, but if it is clear that there will be no victory? Can at least change the candidate? For the young, smart, who has already done something (governor?) "The main thing is not victory, the main participation" in the presidential election is not suitable.
        I do not take a single person from our opposition seriously. Clowns support groups. (although they don’t know me at all laughing )
        1. +8
          29 July 2018 09: 52
          Quote: Bastinda
          Sorry, but if it is clear that there will be no victory?

          If you vote for physiognomy. This is your problem, they generally vote for the Idea.
          Now we look at what is behind the EP and the Liberal Democratic Party — emptiness for the mass of the population and deception and clear fixation of benefits for a very narrow group. Moreover, the EP and the Liberal Democratic Party have a lot of TV and radio, everything is subject to their propaganda and a lot of rumors, nonsense about the Communist Party. And you ... you look at physiognomy. Sweet speeches and leavened patriotism, for example, Zhirinovsky ..
          Quote: Bastinda
          I do not take a single person from our opposition seriously.

          Your business. But in this case, and to cobble that everything is not worth it, you have the position of an outside observer ...
          1. +2
            29 July 2018 11: 06
            Not really, in the presidential election, he voted for Grudinin, although I can not imagine him as president. My favorite candidate Putin and Medvedev destroyed ....
            “Against all” Now he would surely be a leader ... laughing
            1. +2
              29 July 2018 11: 15
              Quote: Bastinda
              My favorite candidate Putin and Medvedev destroyed ....

              Who is this, no secret?
              1. +2
                29 July 2018 11: 16
                "Against all" Now he would surely be a leader ... laughing

                Read carefully.
                1. +2
                  29 July 2018 11: 50
                  Quote: Bastinda
                  "Against everyone"

                  This is called the position of the ostrich ... head in the sand ... everything is out. Then everything is one, the head hurts.
    3. +2
      29 July 2018 12: 00
      When I saw the Communist Party’s application for a referendum, I thought - what is the tongue-tied wording ... ,, "Do you agree that in Russia the age giving the right to an old-age insurance pension should not increase ?, I don’t understand that is not clear. and where is the double or triple meaning?
  10. +1
    29 July 2018 07: 26
    Quote: ROSS 42
    Quote: Phil77
    And I never liked him. When the son of a lawyer takes up the defense of the Russian people, this is alarming!

    And I don’t like the absence of the column “Against all” in the ballots. No.

    Me too. Here are the rules of the game they got! am
  11. +8
    29 July 2018 07: 59
    Everything is like in Ukraine, by the way. One to one

    Power makes the same mistakes. The mentality in Ukraine alone is different. Therefore, each of us decides the outcome in his own way, quietly, "if only there was no war."
    Lermontov has long defined this.
    The authorities use these.
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  12. +2
    29 July 2018 08: 01
    Quote: R. Skomorokhov
    Perhaps it’s better to take a chance again (the first time or something) and give out a credit of trust to the old than to admit the very idea that such new ones will come to oppose.

    EP - a party representing the interests of the bourgeois. They don't give a damn about us. If we again give them the right to rule the country, then the following laws will be the abolition of weekends, holidays, the removal of restrictions on working hours, the absence of the concept of minimum wages, etc. This cannot be allowed.
    1. +13
      29 July 2018 08: 19
      Quote: Boris55
      If we again give them the right to rule the country, then the following laws will be the abolition of weekends, holidays, the removal of restrictions on working hours, the absence of the concept of minimum wages, etc. This cannot be allowed.

      In this case, you will or not. But you have to support the Communist Party, and not rotten people of varying degrees of decomposition in the environment of the left opposition. And betting on sectoids from NOD to KOB is generally ridiculous.
      1. +1
        29 July 2018 08: 28
        Quote: The Swordsman
        In this case, you will or not. But you have to support the Communist Party

        In the Duma elections, I voted for the Rodina party: http://www.rodina.ru/ Only one went to the Duma.
        1. +6
          29 July 2018 09: 26
          Quote: Boris55
          In the Duma elections, I voted for the Rodina party:

          As a result, you voted for EP. And this one, who has passed to the Duma, sits and votes exactly like the whole EP, besides it is distinguished by an extreme degree of anti-Sovietism and anti-communism .. a good choice, in the spirit of the BER sect ..
          I’ve read an article by a well-known blogger now ... Antoshi Blagin. With all his eddies. He just noticed one parallel with the world of insects of society of people and society of ants - "" Our anthill is deteriorating more and more rapidly. The narcotic substance secreted by parasitic bugs, lomehuses, caused the appearance of down ants (pseudoergats) in the nest, which are neither capable of procreation nor vigorous socially useful activity. Lomekhuz and pseudoergats are becoming more and more in the anthill. So, more and more parasites and less feed. A little more, and the degradation process will become irreversible.

          If the anthill were more numerous, the process could take many years: the “dragdiller” beetles breed slower than the ants, they simply would not keep pace with population growth, affecting only some sectors of the nest. But our anthill is small, so only external intervention can save it - cleaning. "
          https://cont.ws/@antonblagin/1016660
          Read ... you will be useful.
          Immediately make a reservation. That all these pseudoparticles of the type of your choice, there are those same Lomekhuzes ... and you bought yourself the gifts of Danians ..
          1. +1
            29 July 2018 09: 33
            Quote: The Swordsman
            As a result, you voted for EP.

            And in the end, have you voted for them? laughing
            About the elections and the rule of two hands.
            There are five fingers on the right and left hand - five parties. When the head needs to solve its own problems, say, games with the right hand, the right hand with five parties is shown and the people can choose any one - from the thumb (EP) to the little finger (Apple). Whatever the people would vote for, there would be one result - they all chose the right hand. Parties with the left hand (Barkashovtsy, Ampilovtsy, Tyutyukintsy, etc.), for the time being, are declared extremist and they periodically frighten the people so that they make the "right" choice. Both of these hands serve one head. hi
          2. +2
            29 July 2018 10: 37
            Quote: The Swordsman
            ..... I’ve read an article by a famous blogger .. Antoshi Blagin. With all his twists and turns, he definitely noticed one parallel with the insect world of human society and ants society.

            Good morning, Nikolai! You can immediately read the book of a scientist! Then we can find out about the similarity of the anthill with the humane anthracis even better. For example, Vladilen Evgenievich Kipyatkov writes about ants-slave owners. They act without sparing anyone, they do not take prisoners. Only pupae are captured (moreover, many die during transportation!). The slave owners themselves cannot even get food to their mouth --- faithful slaves bring it! And no revolution even in the project!
            And there are still usurpers. Their female flies to the "" ordinary "ants, makes a coup, seizes power, and ... The process is running! Nobody produces "" ordinary "", only new usurpers breed --- conquer other anthills! And the family that raised them --- dies out without realizing what's what.
            But this does not end the similarity of the anthill with the humane .......
          3. +1
            29 July 2018 10: 49
            Quote: The Swordsman
            anthill

            Here is another material for you. To expand your horizons, he, IMHO, is simply necessary:
        2. +4
          29 July 2018 09: 39
          Boris55
          In the Duma elections, I voted for the Rodina party

          The union of the three parties was formalized on October 28, 2006 by renaming the Rodina party with the membership of the RPG and RPP members and the election of new governing bodies on an equal footing. This "merged" party was called "Fair Russia: Homeland / Pensioners / Life" - spoiler EP
    2. +15
      29 July 2018 08: 22
      Quote: Boris55
      EP - a party representing the interests of the bourgeois. They don't give a damn about us

      agree completely
    3. 0
      3 August 2018 10: 53
      Boris55
      "EP - a party representing the interests of the bourgeois. They do not give a damn about us. If we give them the right to rule the country again, the following laws will be the abolition of weekends, vacations, the removal of restrictions on working hours, the absence of the concept of minimum wages, etc. not "

      My God, that’s what the guarantor didn’t touch, Boris’s eyes on the world opened! And the right thoughts were born! It is a pity that only one plus is possible, I would give you 100500 pluses for this post!
  13. +6
    29 July 2018 08: 13
    The Communists need to hold a large general party congress and change the policies of the party and Uncle Zyu, with all his camarilla dancing to the tune of EP. Lovers of the son of a lawyer are the same nonsense, it's time to write off the clown dad and do real work. About SR, one can say, it will fly after EP, the paratrooper will probably be given a parachute.
  14. +8
    29 July 2018 08: 24
    Nobody will give us deliverance - Neither God, nor king, nor hero! We will achieve liberation with His own hand .... And our hands are tied .... Hey citizen, you don’t go here, go there. And then the snow will fall, you’ll be completely dead, various representatives of God (Who believes in Mohammed, who - in Allah, who - in Jesus, that's where democracy smile ) console, tolerate fellow sudariks, God tolerated and ordered us .. The Tsar raises Russia from his knees, but his "heroes" interfere with him .. And somehow it’s not up to us ... connected ... No, you can a couple of times in year, on the Straight Line, shout “The word and deed of the sovereign!” .. Help if he hears .. loosen the bonds .. Instead of gray, blacks always come ... This is not about systemic opposition .. Shake off, covered with mothballs from the time of perestroika, costumes, they’ll kill a moth ... And again, with new old slogans .. The people "liberate" ... And with the permission of the king ... and his "heroes" ...
  15. BAI
    +4
    29 July 2018 08: 47
    Everyone needs to express their opinion in the September 9 elections.
  16. +1
    29 July 2018 09: 05
    Dear Roman Skomorokhov ... I agree with you in many ways. Not with everything, but still .... Maybe I missed somewhere, did not notice ... But I would like to know your party affiliation, if any. hi
  17. +1
    29 July 2018 09: 12
    I’m going to go to the rally myself, I repent that I didn’t go (We also had to see rare cars on the Third International Square and something else .... Only for one reason I didn’t go, my son and I wanted to, but it was raining on the street. .. And they have a cold crying
    1. +2
      29 July 2018 13: 48
      And there are millions like you, with their problems - there is no time for rallies.
  18. +4
    29 July 2018 09: 26
    And what? The normal practice of a capitalist state, what is the price here strange? Everything belongs to someone and only democracy to the people. hi
  19. 0
    29 July 2018 09: 52
    The problem is, the opposition is too monstrous and archaic, taking advantage of their presence, they do more harm with their stupidity, although if you consider them as provocateurs they are very good, but they are allies of the authorities ... this is not a constructive opposition ... - Democrats in all their demagogic beauty.
  20. +1
    29 July 2018 10: 01
    I support. All current opposition are the tame monkeys of the government or Soros. No new ones are foreseen, since more or less sane potential leaders are either discredited or bought.
    I cherish the hope that in the wake of discontent something will appear and someone who is worth supporting ... But this hope fades away every day.
    1. +3
      29 July 2018 10: 18
      This hope has faded with the introduction of a 5% barrier, God forbid, small parties in the Duma have crowded into the "party" .. But why are competitors .. The same capitalism, TNCs eliminate small, more promising competitors .. The same is true in politics ...
  21. 0
    29 July 2018 10: 02
    And the author is seriously campaigning for the Communist Party? Do not get fooled by this nonsense! The authorities always calculate their moves and their consequences for many moves ahead. Therefore, they allow the Communists to rise in the wake of the protests of this reform. Then (when receiving dividends in the form of good results in elections at different levels), the Communist Party will again be silent in the pipe further and work with the government. It's a vicious circle. Our only legitimate and effective protest is not to go to the polls at all! Well, let them legitimize themselves later (power, opposition - systemic and non-systemic), it’s even interesting to look at it ...
    1. +1
      29 July 2018 10: 07
      Quote: Proximo
      Do not get fooled by this nonsense! The authorities always calculate their moves and their consequences for many moves ahead.

      If the government always forgives, then it ....? wink
    2. 0
      3 August 2018 11: 11
      Next
      “Our only legitimate and effective protest is not to go to the polls at all! Now let them legitimize themselves later”

      What kind of world do you live in? The authorities have long ago canceled the turnout threshold, they will come together, three or three, and that’s all, they will be legitimate! Wake up, dear!
  22. +5
    29 July 2018 10: 08
    Soon, the Camps will open up, and people will begin to disappear, funnels in the form of Black Patriots will begin to come ...
  23. +8
    29 July 2018 10: 23
    It’s a pity, but we have practically no normal people in power. And EP in general is a bunch of all the rot and shit that is on our earth.
  24. 0
    29 July 2018 10: 31
    Quote: sabakina
    Boris, well, her God, primitive comparison with family! The country has NO money! There is money of TAXPAYERS! The question is that some ....

    And I know who this “someone is,” but that’s definitely not Putin. laughing
  25. +3
    29 July 2018 11: 06
    A lot of active retirees came to the rallies around the country, who apparently have no summer cottages and gardens, that’s probably the most active rally layer ..... And for the young people and 30-35 year olds, everything’s on the drum
  26. +2
    29 July 2018 11: 11
    This is a shame ... this is a protest ...., such an opposition is the ultimate dream of the authorities, and dictatorships are not necessary, the authorities are 5 points ... this is how to manipulate consciousness, the authorities have learned from our mind
    1. 0
      29 July 2018 13: 56
      It’s just that the lion’s share of people understands that all these meetings are a waste of time - the law on pension reform has not been adopted and when it will be passed it will not be known, maybe tomorrow, or maybe after six years, its final version will be radically different from the first.
      1. 0
        3 August 2018 11: 20
        Vadim237
        "all these rallies, this is a waste of time - the law on pension reform has not been adopted and when it will be passed it will not be known, maybe tomorrow, or maybe six years later its final version will be radically different from the first"

        Blessed is he who believes ...
        Then it will be too late...
  27. +2
    29 July 2018 11: 14
    Russia is increasingly reminiscent of ancient Rome and the aspirations in power are similar:"Meal'n'Real!"
    What is the care of the people when their hands are busy with Olympiads, rallies, summits ............................
  28. +1
    29 July 2018 11: 18
    Quote: The Swordsman
    Quote: Bastinda
    Sorry, but if it is clear that there will be no victory?

    If you vote for physiognomy. This is your problem, they generally vote for the Idea.
    Now we look at what is behind the EP and the Liberal Democratic Party — emptiness for the mass of the population and deception and clear fixation of benefits for a very narrow group. Moreover, the EP and the Liberal Democratic Party have a lot of TV and radio, everything is subject to their propaganda and a lot of rumors, nonsense about the Communist Party. And you ... you look at physiognomy. Sweet speeches and leavened patriotism, for example, Zhirinovsky ..
    Quote: Bastinda
    I do not take a single person from our opposition seriously.

    Your business. But in this case, and to cobble that everything is not worth it, you have the position of an outside observer ...

    And what or what ideas does the current Communist Party have ??
    1. +6
      29 July 2018 12: 36
      Quote: Andrey VOV
      And what or what ideas does the current Communist Party have?

      Have you read the program? If not, what are you trying to ask about?
      - In order not to depend on external risks, the share of manufacturing in Russia's GDP should be increased from 14,5% to 70-80%. Let me remind you that in modern Germany this level is 83%.
      There was no value added tax in the USSR. He is not in the USA either. The presence of VAT leads to a rise in price of domestic products from 10 to 18%. This makes it uncompetitive, slows down production, develops inflation and provokes corruption. In fact, this tax significantly reduces the salary of our citizens.
      Is there anything to argue, essentially, without swearing and wisdom, inherent here to some dog lovers?
      https://kprf.ru/activity/elections/151845.html
      1. +1
        29 July 2018 12: 46
        Quote: The Swordsman
        the share of manufacturing in Russia's GDP should be increased from 14,5% to 70-80%

        Due to what? What will you produce - process, where to sell? Or, as in the USSR, "to the warehouse"?
        True, it’s even simpler - you can simply preserve oil and gas, and here’s the “share of processing” ... and at least 102%. But, I think, even geniuses from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation do not think of it.
        Quote: The Swordsman
        This makes her uncompetitive.

        Do not flatter yourself. most of the products produced in the Russian Federation (manufacturing industry, og) in the world market are already uncompetitive. What with VAT, what without.
        Quote: The Swordsman
        slows down production

        VAT slows down production ??! How is this? Purchased raw materials - paid VAT. They sold products made from this raw material - they returned the VAT. The VAT cycle in nature, and no "brake" to you.
        Quote: The Swordsman
        promotes inflation and provokes corruption

        No comments. Especially about corruption.
        Quote: The Swordsman
        In fact, this tax significantly reduces the salary of our citizens.

        It's true.
        Notice without swearing and wisdom. Better leave the dogs alone. This is advice, for now - good.
        1. +1
          4 August 2018 17: 08
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Due to what? What will you produce - process, where to sell? Or, as in the USSR, "to the warehouse"?

          Have you been tired of repeating these mothballs since the time of the faded light?
          I understand .. it’s hard to read the numbers, and most importantly to understand all the naphthalene stupidity of which you are adding up .. http://istmat.info/node/9321

          Quote: Golovan Jack
          VAT slows down production ??! How is this? Purchased raw materials - paid VAT. They sold products made from this raw material - they returned the VAT. The VAT cycle in nature, and no "brake" to you.

          It is written for those who do not understand the increase in VAT, which inevitably results in higher prices in the domestic market. However, you see that it’s profitable for the service staff, therefore, pickle bikes here.
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Especially about corruption.

          So do not stutter. Examples of corruption are just that. Now they take bureaucrats in batches, a dime a dozen.
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          It's true.

          Did enlightenment come at once?
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Better leave the dogs alone. This is advice, for now - good.

          So get busy ..dogs. And not giving out very, very stupid advice, I do not need them.
          1. +1
            4 August 2018 17: 28
            Oh, who swam to us ... a long time ago something is not visible to me, I already felt bored ...
            Only now, again, for some reason, you are trying to bite, instead of specifically answering specific questions ... you definitely know the answer:
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Quote: The Swordsman
            a share of manufacturing in Russia's GDP is necessary increase from 14,5% to 70-80%

            Due to what? What will you produce - process, where to sell?

            This is a question, I want an answer. You have a "party program" in your bosom there, is it really not written in it?
            PS: if it’s not written - crap it, sorry, not the program request
            Quote: The Swordsman
            Examples of corruption, for which bureaucrats are now taking in batches, a dime a dozen

            Yes, who would argue, I live here myself ... I have been living for a long time, I'm used to it already. However, what side of the VAT to corruption ??! belay
            Quote: The Swordsman
            . The presence of VAT leads to a rise in the cost of domestic products from 10 to 18% ... This ... develops inflation and provokes corruption

            They said stupidity. Now try to troll it.
            First - implicitly negative
            Secondly, darag, troll me ... well, not with your happiness, so I will say Yes
            1. +1
              4 August 2018 17: 55
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              Secondly, daragoy, troll me ...

              Do not try. Boring and predictable.
              1. +2
                4 August 2018 17: 58
                Quote: The Swordsman
                Boring and predictable

                The answer to the question is where?
                Your opinion of me does not interest me.
                But it’s worth answering for the words (yours) ... if you’re not at all yaping, of course wink
      2. +2
        29 July 2018 13: 07
        is, is, but not in all states, and not so big ....,
  29. +6
    29 July 2018 11: 18
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    everything is just beginning, protests will grow both quantitatively and qualitatively

    ----------------------
    I agree, Andrey. Down and Out trouble started. In 1917, the revolution was not made by a small party of Bolsheviks, but by all kinds of Cadets, Social Democrats, Social Revolutionaries and other bourgeois parties. And what then ended we remember. There are still labor parties, also small in number. So do not despair. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation also does not suit me in many ways, but where to go? You’ll be silent, completely satraps will peck at us. Volga again want to die like 100 years ago.
  30. 0
    29 July 2018 11: 28
    Quote: The Swordsman
    Question. Why in that case, the one who can’t do anything

    In order to have someone to point a finger at and you know, many are being blamed for all mortals.
    And besides, he pursues a foreign policy, which we have, as it were, more or less. In addition, he is the supreme commander of the RF Armed Forces, which, thanks to him, we have the best in the world.
    For what Putin is responsible for, by and large there are no complaints against him. There are claims to domestic policy pursued by Medvedev both in the government and in the Duma.
    1. +6
      29 July 2018 12: 33
      Quote: Boris55
      For what Putin is responsible for, by and large there are no complaints against him. There are claims to domestic policy pursued by Medvedev both in the government and in the Duma.

      We agree with the thesis that in foreign policy everything seems to be doing nothing ... if you do not count punctures in relation to the ruins.
      But what’s the point of completing your management team from mediocre ones? If there is a carte blanche, albeit with reservations?
      He is responsible for everything, do not put a shadow on the wattle fence, such is the fate of the leader of any country.
      1. 0
        29 July 2018 16: 57
        Quote: The Swordsman
        He is responsible for everything, do not put a shadow on the wattle fence, such is the fate of the leader of any country.

        Only the king is naked. He does not accept laws. It’s not he who administers the treasury. sad
    2. 0
      3 August 2018 11: 49
      Boris55
      "Yes, and besides that, he pursues a foreign policy, which we have, as it were, more or less"

      That's exactly "as if" and, rather, less than more!
      Well, tell us when the Americans took our property from us and they did not have an answer for this? So they continue to mock, what’s the story with our other building and the removal of our flag?
      Well, we answered them so cool! PLEASANTLY ASKED themselves to choose whom to send home, and that they would not forget anything, they gave them a whole month for training ...
      There is always a PARITY in diplomacy, not a whisper: "maybe let us go back and return our real estate, why do you need it for you a lot of it?" And it’s very a pity that our children are dying in Syria. Yes, maybe not directly from the striped, but their ears there stick out!
  31. +9
    29 July 2018 11: 59
    Quote: Boris55
    For what Putin is responsible for, by and large there are no complaints against him. There are claims to domestic policy pursued by Medvedev both in the government and in the Duma.

    -------------------------
    Putin and Medvedev represent one branch of the executive branch. Putin's detachment is a wiring for bourgeois patriots like you. Putin represents the interests of the monopolies of Gazprom, Rosneft and other exporters, Rusal of the same, Severstal Mordashevskaya. You apparently do not see how this is reflected in foreign policy. Your "patriot" Lavrov even made a reservation "our owners abroad", he certainly had in mind the main country of US capital, but you do not know about it. If Russia will conflict with the West, then it will cover the export of raw materials. And now Putin is simply bargaining so that his business zone is not taken away from Russian business. That's all. That’s all your “foreign policy”. And of course, for this you need to have a military fist, otherwise they will do it like with Gaddafi. And in this regard, domestic policy is a logical continuation of foreign. Remove the indigenous Russian population, rob him of all rights. Use Russia as a territory for plunder and trade with China and with Europe.
    1. 0
      29 July 2018 12: 22
      Quote: Altona
      Putin and Medvedev represent one branch of the executive branch. Putin's detachment is wiring

      Uh, yo ...
      Altona, here’s a simple model that refutes your elegant construction. To make it clearer - from your usual area.
      We take the usual wheel from your trailer. It consists of a disk and rubber stretched onto this disk.
      Call this wheel "executive power" laughing
      Putin is a drive, and specifically with him, everything is in order.
      Medvedev is rubber (but it looks like, tell me?), And this rubber ... is crooked, frankly.
      At the same time, they work as if together ...
      Is the model clear? Objections, suggestions, additions?
    2. 0
      29 July 2018 17: 10
      Quote: Altona
      Putin and Medvedev represent one branch of the executive branch.

      Putin is the executive power, I won’t argue with that, but I don’t agree with Medvedev’s account. He is the chairman of the government, which forms the budget, and speaking in the old way - is the State Plan. You must admit that this is a little like the executive branch, and if you take into account that the legislative branch is under his control, then Medvedev can only be attributed to the executive branch. The only thing the government does as an executive branch is to execute, as it can, the Presidential Decree, and, in general, Medvedev as a whole, is the legislative branch that passes laws and plans which sectors of the economy should be and which won't.
      Quote: Altona
      Putin represents the interests of the monopolies of Gazprom, Rosneft and other exporters, Rusal of the same, Severstal Mordashevskaya.

      Have you forgotten about Sakhalin-1, 2? And about Khodorkovsky? Do not forget, the companies you listed make up one third of our budget. Want more? And I do the same, but for this it is necessary that our Duma adopt the corresponding law.
      Quote: Altona
      And now Putin is simply haggling so that his zone of influence is not taken away from Russian business

      So that there would be money in the country's budget for the same pensions.
  32. +3
    29 July 2018 12: 25
    I just don’t understand, to be honest. Who should have beento go here for these fellows who do not know how to connect three words?
    Over the past few months, I will fully support the author. Only the blind and deaf do not see what this “opposition” is, or rather, the real enemies of Russia. Every day, on political talk shows, they shout with anguish about the "withdrawal of Russian troops from the Donbass", about leaving Syria, about cutting down on arms costs, about bowing to the West for the imaginary lifting of sanctions, about releasing "political prisoners and necessarily Ukrainian", but a lot about what else they shout showing their true face, not their face.
  33. +6
    29 July 2018 12: 30
    Quote: rotmistr60
    Only the blind and deaf do not see what this “opposition” is, or rather, the real enemies of Russia. Every day, on political talk shows, they shout with anguish about the "withdrawal of Russian troops from the Donbass", about leaving Syria, about cutting down on arms costs, about bowing to the West for the imaginary lifting of sanctions, about releasing "political prisoners and necessarily Ukrainian", but a lot about what else they shout showing their true face, not their face.

    So name the names of these screaming Nekras and Stankevich, Drandin and Sytin. Gozman and Steinman, a couple of others like that, including Igor Chubais. That carries such a game.
    Someone else considers these-opposition? An opposition to whom and why?
  34. +2
    29 July 2018 12: 54
    Quote: Boris55
    Quote: The Swordsman
    Question. Why in that case, the one who can’t do anything

    In order to have someone to point a finger at and you know, many are being blamed for all mortals.
    And besides, he pursues a foreign policy, which we have, as it were, more or less. In addition, he is the supreme commander of the RF Armed Forces, which, thanks to him, we have the best in the world.
    For what Putin is responsible for, by and large there are no complaints against him. There are claims to domestic policy pursued by Medvedev both in the government and in the Duma.

    It turns out that Medvedev is not an official hired by Putin, but an elected politician. What a news.....
    I personally do not need the best aircraft in the world. I need a good standard of living comparable to Germany or at least the Czech Republic. And the sun should be affordable for ordinary people.
    1. 0
      3 August 2018 12: 40
      Valery Gagarin
      "And the sun should be affordable for ordinary people"

      People can’t afford the people receiving TWO AND MORE THAN MILLION PER DAY!
  35. +1
    29 July 2018 12: 56
    Quote: The Swordsman
    Quote: rotmistr60
    Only the blind and deaf do not see what this “opposition” is, or rather, the real enemies of Russia. Every day, on political talk shows, they shout with anguish about the "withdrawal of Russian troops from the Donbass", about leaving Syria, about cutting down on arms costs, about bowing to the West for the imaginary lifting of sanctions, about releasing "political prisoners and necessarily Ukrainian", but a lot about what else they shout showing their true face, not their face.

    So name the names of these screaming Nekras and Stankevich, Drandin and Sytin. Gozman and Steinman, a couple of others like that, including Igor Chubais. That carries such a game.
    Someone else considers these-opposition? An opposition to whom and why?

    An example of "game" give. Do not be unfounded ...
  36. +3
    29 July 2018 13: 03
    Like Bulgakov’s words of Woland. Neither the government, nor the deputies, nor the opposition. There is nothing for the people.

    Strange.
    Already the Soviet regime has been gone for more than a quarter of a century, and “spirituality” has crawled through all the cracks and “squeezed out” of the 2010 restitution “not a bit” for the “heavenly” churches, but Woland rules and smokes on this holy earth. Where do the anointed ones look, or have the marketers also optimized there? lol
  37. +1
    29 July 2018 14: 10
    While PEDIRosnya has unlimited power (like the CPSU) - nothing will change!
    They will save the oligarchs (their breadwinners) from sanctions at the expense of the people.
    And for the dissatisfied, the Rosguard was created, armed even with heavy armored vehicles .....
    Even the communists did not arm themselves against their own people.
  38. +4
    29 July 2018 15: 24
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    Putin is a drive, and specifically with him, everything is in order.
    Medvedev is rubber (but it looks like, tell me?), And this rubber ... is crooked, frankly.
    At the same time, they work as if together ...
    Is the model clear? Objections, suggestions, additions?

    ---------------------------------------
    Putin cannot be a disk. Putin plays the role of an awning in the power trailer rather, the disk is the party of power "United Russia". And just like a disk, bolts are not tightened normally on it, but she still tries to drive. The role of rubber is played by grassroots legislative assemblies of county-level cities, it is they who are trying to inflate and pull them. So your example is incorrect. You simply do not want to see class interests. Well, with your salary, as I understand it in the region of 100 thousand, everything suits you and you think that the power is strong. So zuboskalte with his doggie in the trash of power as much as you like, the reality is somewhat different than Yaroslavsky or what kind of station there is where your train is coming.
    1. 0
      29 July 2018 16: 58
      Quote: Altona
      gibber with your dog in the trash

      Rude again ... implicitly negative
      Quote: Altona
      reality it is somewhat different than Yaroslavsky or what kind of station is there, where does your train come

      I, my dear, live in a very real world. The fact that he is somewhat different from yours is not my fault, it is your fault. By the way, I learned everything that I earn a living from.
      So this is ... that ... get scared.
      Solids:
      - I proposed, KMK, a quite adequate model of the executive branch (Putin in it is precisely the “drive” because it sets the direction for movement. The government, the State Duma and others are just tires, because they are realizing this direction, ahem).
      - you, for your part, have done everything to chat the topic and stay, as always, "in a position from above"
      Conclusion:
      “You have a mental problem, Altona.” This is not a mockery, it is a statement of fact.
      Think about it, for your own good.
      All Yes
      1. +1
        31 July 2018 05: 32
        You have problems with the psyche. And serious. And apparently glycine will not help you. So I understand rudeness is your second "I", in the absence of the first.
  39. 0
    29 July 2018 15: 24
    Unfortunately, the real, more or less reasonable opposition is not observed and is not expected that it’s very bad for the authorities, for the masses too .... nothing, the diplodocus of communism ... this is not even funny ..., the image of the authorities with such a vaudeville the opposition is just ridiculous, zero ideas, advanced balloons ... sad
  40. +1
    29 July 2018 17: 03
    Quote: Boris55
    Quote: Valery Gagarin
    Link to the State Duma is not appropriate. The executive branch is not there.

    How's that? wassat
    The executive branch acts within the framework of laws adopted by the Duma.

    This is true. The State Duma is not engaged in daily monitoring of the implementation of laws. (in the simplest case, there are no representatives of the State Duma daily monitoring the passage of the red light under the traffic law; this is the task of traffic police)
    1. 0
      30 July 2018 07: 16
      Quote: Valery Gagarin
      State Duma is not involved in daily monitoring of the implementation of laws

      The judicial investigative authority is engaged in this, but this does not cancel the action of the executive branch in the framework of laws adopted by the Duma.
  41. 0
    29 July 2018 22: 15
    I just don’t understand how this “unsystematic opposition” was able to arrange Bolotnaya.
    Well, everything is simple here - Bolotnaya is in Moscow, but Moscow is ... Well, of course, you understood what I mean ... wassat Well, and then here the main question of price ... question ... In Moscow, it is always more resonant, so they do not spare the money who is supposed to put on Bolotnaya .... And those - and these .... wassat hi
  42. +3
    30 July 2018 00: 41
    The whole essence of the problems of all the recent failed reforms is that people who get an idea of ​​it from Soros booklets deal with it, therefore they don’t see why the economic models of the West in Russia do not work, and the fact is that the West uses neocolonialism as the basis of its economy (yes yes) In other words, a hidden, veiled, sweetened, but nevertheless robbery of other states, that’s why other states are pulling all the negativity of the Western economy, while in Russia all the negativity is superimposed on their people. And if modern economists cannot create It’s up to you, the Russian economic model, where people will nevertheless be given the opportunity to work and earn money, and not only to breeders and industrialists, yes yes, I’m saying that the tax authorities have so much trained the power to scare the citizens into starting their own business that they are already confused in them, no one is unemployed, thanks to the tax service, and collecting taxes is nonsense-great, now they just decided to take and rob, but the question is whether it’s enough-stolen for a long time, because money has one negative trait, it always ends.
  43. 0
    30 July 2018 09: 40
    Quote: The Swordsman
    Quote: Tatiana
    Such a capacious phrase is sure to go down in history!

    And in the telegram channel "Vyborny" an amazing screenshot of the message appears, where someone requires "respected colleagues" to send posts on social networks in support of pension reform. And also, which is characteristic, the posts of those members of the same party who were “against”. In general, Pavlik Morozov has long been gone, but his work lives on.
    Please take a look at the screenshot ..
    https://www.pravda.ru/politics/26-07-2018/1389974
    -0 /
    As Pravda.Ru previously wrote, pension reform, which caused not only tension in society, but also a sharp drop in the rating of the Russian president, was recommended not to be carried out by security officials, but by Aleksey Kudrin and Sergey Kiriyenko.
    This is stated by the insider telegram channel “Pjar during the plague”: “It’s very significant how they try to convince the public that the decision on pension reform, which brought down the ratings of the authorities, was made not by Kudrin and his friends, bankrupt friends from the NPF, not the government, but the Security Council The Russian Federation. Like Patrushev is to blame for his resignation. But the true author of this wrecking reform is not the "Nazarov boy" from the Scientific Research Institute of the Ministry of Finance, but Aleksei Leonidovich Kudrin and the Center for Strategic Research led by him ".https: //www.pravda.ru/ news / society / 0
    5-07-2018/1388214-pension-0/
    And mind you, in the cities they rally. The people are really indignant, and from all the channels all kinds of entertainments and musicians are breathing in.

    Pravda.ru is still a lie with ru and without
  44. -1
    31 July 2018 17: 29
    So, Uncle Vova cleaned up all the opposition, to the level of the plinth. ZY. there was a chance in 1996, but he chose the well-fed opposition. It’s easier and better to live like this ... The evolution of the RCP (b) -VKP (b) -KPRF is interesting ... Adherents gobbled up the party from within like rust ... laughing tongue wassat
  45. 0
    1 August 2018 20: 23
    The more parties for every taste, the easier it is for the authorities to control the mass.
  46. 0
    1 August 2018 21: 37
    Once again, Russia has come to a standstill. The civilization matrix however!
  47. 0
    2 August 2018 12: 48
    And who is to blame for the Communist Party in their jambs? How much for example is it necessary to be an idiot in order to support the bourgeois Grudinin as a communist? Moreover, a former adviser to Putin, and they seem to be like the "opposition"?
    What does power have to do with it? The question is that it is the opposition that is not in the power to explain how much it seeks. And what for is it generally needed then?
  48. 0
    2 August 2018 19: 33
    The main thing is that the king is good. Although he discredited how they seized enterprises with Sobchak, they helped their "democrats" get rich, so their hair stood on end. And what is happening in Moscow now. Friends wring out business insolently. The oligarchs got rich on 13 mln., And we got poorer on inflation. Indeed, as I understand it, the pension reform was dragged, despite the agreement on the referendum. What did Kudrin say? and now, thanks to government informatization, you can cut 2 third of officials and hire thousands of programmers. Let's live!