It is finished: the frigate “Admiral Gorshkov” completed the tests

On Thursday, the state commission signed the acceptance test report of the frigate Admiral Gorshkov (project 22350) reports Mil.Press FlotProm.

On Saturday at the "Northern Shipyard" will be a solemn event dedicated to the introduction of the frigate in the Naval fleet.

On Navy Day, July 29, the Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov will take part in the Main Parade as the Northern Fleet ship.

The frigate was laid down at the Northern Shipyard in February 2006. However, the tests went only in the fall of 2014. He was planned to be commissioned in the 2016 year, but then the deadlines were shifted to the first half of the year 2017.

In March, 2017 became aware of the failure by the Almaz-Antey concern of the ROC on the topic Polymer-Redoubt, which led to another review of the plans for the surrender of Admiral Gorshkov.

In May of this year, the media reported on the arrival of the ship in Severomorsk to continue testing after the repair of the main engine.

Admiral Gorshkov has a displacement of 4500 tons, its length is 135 m, width is 15 m. Speed ​​is up to 30 nodes, cruising range is more than 4800 miles, autonomy is 30 days. Crew - 180 man. The main armament is the Caliber-NK complex.

The resource reminds that the frigates of the 22350 project will be the first ships equipped with the Polimen-Redut rocket-based anti-aircraft system with a vertical launch.

Comments

[AUL]

Seven feet under the keel!

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

The signing of the acceptance act was done only for Navy Day. The air defense systems will continue to be finalized; this is the task of Almaz-Antey. The frigate has air defense and works, but in some cases it does not give out the characteristics specified in the customer’s technical task.

The transfer of the head frigate of the 22350 project “Admiral Gorshkov” to the Navy of the Russian Federation was postponed to November 2018, follows from the annual report of the enterprise on which this ship is built, the Severnaya Verf shipyard,

RIA Novosti https://ria.ru/arms/20180625/1523341867.html

[alexmach]

Where did the information come from? Have tests been carried out after engine repair?

[Romario_Argo]

The media write that the frigate will go to Sevastopol to the Black Sea Fleet ...

[next322]

they write that the frigate will go to Sevastopol to the Black Sea Fleet ...
the ship will serve and be brought to mind (polymer-redoubt) on the Northern Fleet, like its brother Kasatonov

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Quote: next322

The media write that the frigate will go to Sevastopol to the Black Sea Fleet ...

After the parade, the frigate "Admiral Makarov" of the 11356 project will leave for the Black Sea Fleet.

[alexmach]

What stupid things these media will not write.

[Sarmat Sanych]

About "does not give out the characteristics specified in the customer's specifications" - strange. It seems that at the end of May they voiced that they completely brought Polyment-Redoubt to mind.

[Alex777]

Ruled out. Completely.

[Romario_Argo]

Soon will be announced about the first experimental division of the S-350 air defense system
* in Syria to test it

[210ox]

A number of cases is a question for manufacturers more (workmanship). Although the operators may possibly mow. The equipment is new.

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

The signing of the acceptance act was done only for Navy Day. The air defense systems will continue to be finalized; this is the task of Almaz-Antey. The frigate has air defense and works, but in some cases it does not give out the characteristics specified in the customer’s technical task.

The transfer of the head frigate of the 22350 project “Admiral Gorshkov” to the Navy of the Russian Federation was postponed to November 2018, follows from the annual report of the enterprise on which this ship is built, the Severnaya Verf shipyard,

RIA Novosti https://ria.ru/arms/20180625/1523341867.html

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Quote: 210ox

A number of cases is a question for manufacturers more (workmanship). Although the operators may possibly mow. The equipment is new.

The construction of the ship is carried out on the basis of a contract. If the ship was built by the factory in strict accordance with the project, which was controlled by the representative of the customer, then the customer must pick up the ship. If the ship was built with high quality, but its actual characteristics do not correspond to the given ones, then the fault is not with the factory, but with the designer. Of course, the customer can submit a claim to the Design Bureau, and even sue him. But this is a different story, especially since they are both state and municipal defense offices.

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

The frigate has air defense and works, but in some cases it does not give out the characteristics specified in the customer’s technical task.

Well, if Polymet-Redoubt in some cases does not perform (never completed), then I pass ...

[MPN]

Quote from AUL

Seven feet under the keel!

Good luck hiking!

[aszzz888]

Well, Glory to you Almighty! How long this path turned out to be for Admiral Gorshkov! Let then the service in the ranks of the Russian Navy will not be the same as it was under construction! Good luck!

[Vadmir]

How long this path turned out to be for Admiral Gorshkov! Let then the service in the ranks of the Russian Navy will not be the same as it was under construction!

I mean not so long ?!
No, let it serve long and gloriously!

[aszzz888]

Vadmir (Vadim) Yesterday, 14: 34 .. In the sense of not so long ?! stop

... in the sense of such a heavy ...

[Boa kaa]

Quote: aszzz888

Well, Glory to you Almighty!

Yeah! Like Cheburashka:

[Alex777]

Survived. Nobody is in a hurry to even be glad ...

[aszzz888]

Alex777 (Alexander) Today, 13: 47
Survived. Even no one is in a hurry to rejoice ... hi

! For the day of the Navy are preparing hard !!!

[Alex777]

My comment was the first. Like the others who are now ahead of me, there is a mystery to me.

[kefan]

I hope that “Polement-Redoubt” will nevertheless someday finally “finish” it.

[Grandfather]

Quote: kefan

I hope that “Polement-Redoubt” will nevertheless someday finally “finish” it.

will become obsolete by then ...

[venik]

Quote: kefan

I hope that “Polement-Redoubt” will nevertheless someday finally “finish” it.

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Do not understand: "will finish"Or"bring to mind"??? These are a little different concepts !!!

[kefan]

"Finished", bring to mind.

[lis-ik]

Quote: kefan

I hope that “Polement-Redoubt” will nevertheless someday finally “finish” it.

It seems that there’s no one to finish, but the Soviet backlog has ended, hence the curtailment of programs to “better” times with export “potential”.

[Laksamana besar]

12,5 years since the bookmark + design and decision-making on the construction, we waited, managed to the holiday. Happy sailors!

[Win1945]

Worthy speed beyond power! Happy holiday! Nice work and you can gulnut!

[jncnfdybr]

Well, well, it’s very good that the Navy was replenished with another ship. Let's hope not the last.

[Vadmir]

Of course, raising the flag to the day of the Navy is annoying, but glad that it is not being put into trial operation, so there is hope that Polement-Redoubt has been brought to mind.

[venik]

"... On Thursday, the state commission signed the acceptance test report of the frigate Admiral Gorshkov (project 22350) reports Mil.Press FlotProm ...."
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Che, really, "Poliment-Redoubt" finally "brought to mind" ??? Or, as is often the case (unfortunately), accepted with "truncated opportunities" ????

[Alexey RA]

Quote: venik

Che, really, "Poliment-Redoubt" finally "brought to mind" ??? Or, as is often the case (unfortunately), accepted with "truncated opportunities" ????

Say thank you for being on board at all. And not like the head 1155, which was taken without any air defense systems at all.

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Alexey RA

Say thank you for being on board at all.

thanks, what's the use?

Quote: Alexey RA

And not like the head 1155, which was taken without any air defense systems at all.

it means weight has decreased and as a result has increased (a little ) speed - at least there is a micro plus

[alexmach]

thanks, what's the use?

It still somehow works as I understand it.

[Maalkavianin]

Great news! Hooray!

[ver_]

..not diarrhea, so scrofula, not srachka, so sores .. Nesto * brought * him- the disease- to an infruct ..

[Sailor]

The Chinese have built a whole fleet during this time, and we are only a frigate, and it’s as if the pomp was surrendered! And laugh at Ukraine ...

[lis-ik]

Quote: Sailor

The Chinese have built a whole fleet during this time, and we are only a frigate, and it’s as if the pomp was surrendered! And laugh at Ukraine ...

Notice that they began to tell the same tales, like in the article about the submarines of the future and the plane of the sixth generation, bypassing the fifth.

[ver_]

Quote: Alex777

Survived. Nobody is in a hurry to even be glad ...

... so - we are afraid to jinx it .., it always has to whine with us * a childhood surprise * in the end ..

[Masya masya]

We need such ships at sea,
So that we can argue with any wave.
Lighthouses are needed and we need a locator,
And we need the faithful guys!

[NordOst16]

So wait for the next frigate no earlier than 2025?

[spektr9]

And you are an optimist, not earlier than 30 then

[alexmach]

Well, well, Kasatonov is already on the way.

[NordOst16]

the question is whether the power plant and air defense system will be finally ready by the time of descent. And how many episodes will be for the difficult time has come. Well, and, of course, it’s very unfortunate that they saw him for so long and not the fact that they saw him.

[alexmach]

the question is whether the power plant and air defense system will be finally ready by the time of descent

In terms of whether the power plant will be ready by the time of descent?

December 12, 2014 launched.

And why should she not be ready if she was ready 3,5 years ago? And the moment of descent by the way, as it were, is also a long time ago in the past.

And the air defense there is most likely in exactly the same degree of readiness as on Gorshkov. Well, perhaps they will detain him for testing the very Polement-Redoubt.

I thought maybe because Gorshkova was “released” that the next “test vessel” was already on the way ...

[NordOst16]

Well, it seems, the turbines were driven from Ukraine, but I did not hear that the Russians were ready. Well and yes, it’s not good to take a ready-made ship into service

[alexmach]

So it still has Ukrainian turbines on it, they managed to put 2 sets before the "divorce" ... or even 3 rather than 2, but they managed to break it down :) anyway there were 2 Ukrainian sets ready .. Here's the third "Golovko" there will already be Saturn turbines, Wikipedia writes that he seems to be preparing to launch, and they are already launching with installed engines. And “Kasatonova” was launched in 2014.

[NordOst16]

Ah, well then it’s clear. Eh, something my soul feels is that they are tormented with Saturn’s turbines for new products and how to drink and give children’s illnesses will emerge.

[alexmach]

Anything can happen, of course, but as far as I know, the products are not so new. Turbine production has been developed since Soviet times, the technology is known, some of the components are also Russian-made, the scientific base for this seems to be alive. There, as they say, the main problem was the test bench on which the assembled kit was tested, it was built from scratch. In addition, it was a priority project to restore the construction of the fleet, but at least one project can be done well even in modern conditions ...

On the other hand, the Gorshkov was last repaired with a marching Kolomna diesel engine ... but this is not news at all, the Kolomna diesel engines (possibly of another model) failed another 20380, although now it seems that corvettes even go to the Mediterranean Sea.

So, as far as I understand, there are so far only Poliment-Redut from open questions, and what is with him and what his prospects are still not clear. But the adoption of the ship in this regard can be a positive sign. But we will watch the news. Will they lay down even one more such ship, will they accept the S-350, will they finish building up all those already laid down, then everything will be clear.

[NordOst16]

Yes, not a new technology, but the whole Soviet school of marine turbines in Ukraine remained, this was probably the problem, but if you figured it out, then it’s good. It’s interesting, what was pushed into this new ZRK, that they still can’t finish it, it seems they didn’t promise anything breakthrough there. There is a problem with the radar or with missiles. By the way, but the new missiles with a range of 120km were not intended for the c400 yet? And it seemed to me that for the C400 they planned new medium and long range missiles, but I didn’t notice something besides old missiles with a semi-active seeker (or are there new missiles with an active seeker there?), While the long-range missiles still sort of like, not finished. Hmm, it's strange somehow

[alexmach]

It’s interesting that they pushed it into this new ZRK, that they still can’t finish it, it seems they didn’t promise anything breakthrough

How is it not promised anything breakthrough? An active seeker, a relatively large range, and that’s all with a relatively modest missile size, with high fire performance (due to the active head). Fixed universal antenna post with AFAR. And all this is in marine performance. The complex should have been quite innovative.

There is a problem with the radar or with missiles.

According to reports, there were problems with everything, both with the radar and with missiles and with control systems. The last time they did it was to stick Almaz-Antei just for the missiles. Someone was fired.

By the way, but the new missiles with a range of 120km were not intended for the c400 yet?

Both for the S-400 and for the S-350 Vityaz. This very Knight, as I wrote below, is a ground analogue. And also not adopted.
here’s the picture for you on the topic with the models of missiles.


I think so, openly information about what is happening there will not be provided. But still, now, with Gorshkov, 4 frigates are now under construction, 2 more have been contracted.
Now, if these contracted ones are pledged, it will finally bring Polement-Redoubt to an acceptable state.
They didn’t lay down (and there was already a message that they wouldn’t build more than 22350), or, God forbid, they didn’t finish building all 4, which means the very concept of this ship failed, and, apparently, the air defense system was to blame for everything else can live.
If they adopt the S-350, or at least a missile for the S-400, then at least the missiles have been brought to mind.
There have been reports of the study of the appearance of promising frigates 22350M, with increased displacement. On the video, a noticeably larger superstructure stood out, allowing you to place larger canvases of antennas. Now, if instead of 22350 they still build 22350M, it means "Polyment" (antennas and control system) could not be brought to mind.

[shadow]

Oh, and how much screeching was about this, just a horror. Unfinished, unfinished, etc. etc.

[KVU-NSVD]

If Kasatonov is surrendered without regular righteous movements, then Polement-Redoubt has been brought to mind ... If not, then most likely the frigate has been adopted for show by the Navy’s day in the parade ..

[alexmach]

So if this was taken for show, why should Kasatonov not be accepted? Kasatonov, in my opinion, is not an indicator at all. The indicator will be the laying of new frigates and the adoption of the S-350.

[Laksamana besar]

The crew on the "Kasatonov" settled in March, and in early July, the head of the USC said:

The second ship of the series, Admiral Kasatonov, was supposed to be handed over this year, but due to the fact that the flag raising on the Gorshkov was postponed, we simply do not have time to prepare the next ship physically. The delay in delivery of the lead ship always automatically shifts the supply of the second month by eight. It turns out that now we focus on October-November of the 2019 year.
Well, then we will begin to put Saturn’s Russian power plants on ships, and, I hope, delays due to engine problems will be a thing of the past.

[Zlat070]

Comrades, who is in the subject! And "Poliment-Redoubt" is an analogue of which land complex? Or is it a purely marine project?

[alexmach]

S-350 "Hero". Unified with him on missiles. Also stalled.
These missiles should also be used in the S-400.

[ple]

long-suffering ...