The first regimental kit C-400 became the property of China

Chinese military experts have completed the acceptance of the first regimental set of ZRS-400, reports TASS.

According to an agency source, the acceptance certificate for the regimental kit C-400 was signed last week. From the moment of signing, the system supplied by Russia became the property of the People’s Republic of China.

In April, it was reported that the supplied armament and equipment was sent to China by three transport ships from the port of Ust-Luga (Leningrad Region). However, during the storm in the English Channel, part of the auxiliary equipment was damaged. As a result, one of the vessels had to return to Russia to repair the damage. Two other ships continued on their way and delivered the cargo to the People's Republic of China safe and sound.

The Chinese partners received the missing equipment a bit later.

According to the source, the regimental set of C-400 consists of a command post, radar stations, launchers, anti-aircraft guided missiles, power equipment and other property.

The contract for the supply of anti-aircraft system in China was signed in 2014 year.

Recall C-400 - medium-range and long-range anti-aircraft missile system. Able to destroy aerodynamic targets at a distance of up to 400 km and tactical ballistic targets at a distance of up to 60 km.

Comments

[baggage]

How much did the Chinese pay, or on credit like Erdogan?

[Muvka]

As much as necessary, they paid so much. And Erdogan in a partial loan. They give half immediately and with real money.

[MPN]

Since signing, the system delivered by Russia has become the property of the People’s Republic of China.

Well, finally, the S-400 will go to the normal (large) series ...

[Muvka]

She is already in a normal and large series. Wake up.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: MPN

Well, finally, the S-400 will go to the normal (large) series ...

Yes, the work of Chinese engineers is now not an edge. ma molecules decompose

[Mikhail Matyugin]

Quote: Maki Avellievich

Yes, the work of Chinese engineers is now not an edge. ma molecules decompose

Yeah. In my opinion - a strategically wrong decision.

[Sergey ippon]

hello hello my friend
now the likeness with -400 will overwhelm the whole world for deshman!

[Lord of the Sith]

China - a contract for the supply of 2 regiment sets, worth more than $ 3 billion.

[rotmistr60]

baggage
or on credit like Erdogan?

Turkey loan is only 55% of the contract value and do not forget that the loan always implies%. And China pays its own and fully. Interestingly, why are you worried about Russian money?

[Thrall]

Quote: rotmistr60

Interestingly, why are you worried about Russian money?

He has such a job

[Lord of the Sith]

And I add, these 55% of the loan will be in rubles as part of the rejection of the dollar in trade between countries.

[Tatar 174]

Quote: Sith Lord

these 55% of the loan will be in rubles

This is very good)))

[Non liberoid Russian]

What do you earn as a secret informant of the US Treasury?

[Xnumx vis]

It’s not good to count other people's money! Swarm in your pocket!

[72jora72]

How much did the Chinese pay, or on credit like Erdogan?

Like a comedian?

[Zaurbek]

China is not famous for payments. They have a different misfortune.

[The Siberian barber]

Quote: bagration

How much did the Chinese pay, or on credit like Erdogan?

For what purpose are we interested?)
"warm up" will not work :)

[Vasyan1971]

Who about what, and some in the first place:

Quote: bagration

How much the Chinese paid

[gorenina91]

-Yeah ...
- Israel would hardly ... provide the Iron Dome with its calculations ... with the codes of its missile defense system and other secrets, such a "constructive and peaceful" organization ... like ... like Hezbollah and Palestinian "fighters" for freedom and independence ...
-And here Russia ... nothing at all ... -Al goosebumps ...- but there's nothing to be done ...

[Magic archer]

In a couple of years, the Chinese will establish the production of "their" analogue ... Sometimes it’s not clear why we are strengthening China ... No matter how in the future it can come around

[scientist]

In 1993, Russia delivered the first S-300 to China. Until now, the Chinese counterpart of the HQ-9 is significantly inferior to what Russia supplied. Now the situation is similar. Moreover, even if China sells all the technologies on the S-400, then the probability of reaching an appropriate technological level at which Chinese industry will be able to compete with Almaz-Antey will never arise in principle. It’s just that the backlog will not be 15 years old as it is now, but will be reduced to 3-5 years.
Obviously, in cooperation with China, not the short-term commercial interests in the arms market should prevail, but the general tasks of ensuring the continent’s global air defense and missile defense. For example, the creation of a joint SCO missile defense system would be a worthy response to the US withdrawing from the agreement on limiting the strategic missile defense.

[voyaka uh]

"In 1993, Russia delivered the first S-300 to China." ////
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You can not compare China in 1993 and today. Then - a weak country of the 3rd world, now - a superpower.
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"tasks of ensuring global security of air defense and missile defense of the continent" ////
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The Chinese concept of "Eurasia", "Pan-Eurasia" popular in Russia, is completely incomprehensible. They want to be the hegemon in East Asia and are not going to share this role with anyone.
Pushing the United States to the Pacific Ocean, Russia to the north, annexing Taiwan are strategic tasks.
Rather, Russia will have to ask America for a Lend-Lease-2 to save its Far East from China.

[PROXOR]

Quote: voyaka uh

You can not compare China in 1993 and today. Then - a weak country of the 3rd world, now - a superpower.

Nevertheless, they cannot arrange the production of their AL-31F engines comparable in terms of power and resource. And future projects to create a heavy transport helicopter and a wide-body airliner show that China can only copy. And since 1993, China has honed the possibility of better copying.

Quote: voyaka uh

Rather, Russia will have to ask America for a Lend-Lease-2 to save its Far East from China.

Sweaty kosher balls.

[dzvero]

About S-400, by virtue of "rabbits, it’s not only valuable fur, but 3-4 kg of dietary meat." In addition to "iron" there are control and guidance algorithms, and they are "cut" especially strongly in the export version. The Chinese will have to create their own, which is not so simple. Those. they will stir up something, but it is unlikely to reproduce the original.
About the "push Russia north" also does not quite agree. Historically, China has never looked north. Even the wall was built almost in the suburbs of Beijing. There would be interest, they would populate the Far East and Siberia BEFORE the arrival of the Russians. The headache for the Chinese leadership is Taiwan and free access to the ocean. If they do, then most likely not in the footsteps of Tobacco ...

[voyaka uh]

They did not populate Siberia, and Dalniy
East - yes. Russia won it from China at the end of the 19th century. The Chinese do not claim Siberia.
But in Vladivostok, Khabarovsk, Blagoveshchensk on Chinese maps, their old Chinese names.
I say that Russia has to protect these places, not give them away.

[marshes]

Quote: voyaka uh

They did not populate Siberia, and the Far East - yes. Russia won it from China at the end of the 19th century. The Chinese do not claim Siberia.

The Chinese officially proclaimed a course on peaceful existence within their borders and on an economic community, as their ambassador and consul in Kazakhstan constantly reminiscent of, and very sharply negatively react to sinophobia, which is spread in social networks, hinting at the participation of third countries. for example.

And so, they consider Taiwan to be their rebellious province. Although assuming that they follow the succession of power, that is, from the Emperors, then at the expense of the Primorsky Territory, there are not a few questions. Earlier that territory was part of the Manchu empire of the Central Asian Empire, this is the last Emperor of China, because No wonder they tried at one time to recreate the state of Manchu Guo,

In 1858, according to the Beijing Treaty, Russia gained control of these territories, called Outer Manchuria in China (modern Primorsky Territory, Amur Region, the south of Khabarovsk Territory and the Jewish Autonomous Region). However, the further weakening of the Qing government led to the strengthening of Russia also in the Qing empire itself - in Inner Manchuria, where the Chinese Eastern Railway was built along the Harbin - Vladivostok route. The Russian government was considering the project "Zheltorossii", the basis of which was to become the right of way of the CER, the formation of a new Cossack army and Russian colonists

[voyaka uh]

At the official government level - yes, the Chinese are very accurate with their statements. No claims, no threats.
But they still have a semi-official party level. And there - and maps with neighboring lands, and threats. And kirdyk to “American imperialists” and “northern barbarians”. And the Taiwanese and Vietnamese get ...
How would they heat up the nationalism pot over low heat

[marshes]

Quote: voyaka uh

How would they heat up the nationalism pot over low heat

This comes from the Han people, now they are being crushed at the party level. The PRC is the same hodgepodge.

[voyaka uh]

Well, maybe. It’s just that their incredible pace of development of the last 30 years, as much as it delights, is so scary.

[marshes]

Quote: voyaka uh

Well, maybe. It’s just that their incredible pace of development of the last 30 years, as much as it delights, is so scary.

The people are very, very hardworking, although there are scattered people who are entrepreneurial and resourceful.
Everything doesn’t get out of my head, the tablet is a navigator, I practically drowned all the functions and dropped it, the frosts survived but my little ones doubled it. Now I can’t find something similar on Ali.

Although to take a pretty fly swatter, and to beat and separate the carcass from the surface, and you can scratch your back, three in one.

[voyaka uh]

In principle, Kazakhstan can benefit a lot from cooperation with China. In the construction of all kinds of infrastructures, factories they have no equal. But something will have to pay. Raw material, probably? The Chinese are building a lot with us: quickly, efficiently and fairly cheaply. Ports, railways, tunnels. And we are paying technology secrets that they legally and illegally scratch.

[Pajamas]

Quote: marshes

The people are very, very hardworking, although there are scattered people who are entrepreneurial and resourceful.

So it can be said about any people. It intersected with the Chinese, builders worked for me, 150 people, illiterate villagers, I can say that they worked well, but they really need to beat the handyman, they want to hand over the volumes and all at once despite the technical maps. In everyday life, for me, so savages, where they eat and piss and eat, every night they take 1-1.5 liters of beer and snot, they monitor personal hygiene through one and do not brush almost everything. Cheerful, but they make contact, only the elders, of course, there were exceptions, despite socialism, caste is present in them. Here is such a subjective opinion about them when they are present in large numbers, loners quite easily assimilate to living conditions in the Russian Federation.

[yurikh]

The Chinese can indicate anything on their maps. The reality is that they pay extra for their accommodation in Heihe. But the people are reluctant to eat, and more and more are leaving their northern territories.

[Xnumx vis]

Naive Jews ... In Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk the house stands, as in Sevastopol .. Horseradish will drive people out of the island. Castes from migrants formed in Vladivostok. Some clean the streets, others are engaged in construction, others work as loaders. Ours are there like white sahibs .. Sit in your tiny Israel, fantasies are all sorts of fantasies ...

[cariperpaint]

Well) re-read science fiction novels for the night?)))

[72jora72]

Rather, Russia will have to ask America for a Lend-Lease-2 to save its Far East from China.

You will deal with your Arabs, but with the Chinese we are somehow without snotty ............

[Tatar 174]

Quote: voyaka uh

Rather, Russia will have to ask America for a Lend-Lease-2 to save its Far East from China.

All our misfortune, or most of our misfortune, is the lack of population ... In the reform of the pension system, if it does, it is imperative to introduce an article that if a woman has 10 children, then completely free her from work, that’s first, retire right after how she "puts them all on their feet", secondly, the father also has an additional payment to the salary, all kinds of help from the state. Women with few children should not be infringed, but with many children, honor, fame and good material content from the state. And here they want a woman to raise the retirement age. Madhouse !!!

[Mikhail Matyugin]

Quote: voyaka uh

The Chinese concept of "Eurasia", "Pan-Eurasia" popular in Russia, is completely incomprehensible. They want to be the hegemon in East Asia and are not going to share this role with anyone.
Pushing the United States to the Pacific Ocean, Russia to the north, annexing Taiwan are strategic tasks.
Rather, Russia will have to ask America for a Lend-Lease-2 to save its Far East from China.

Absolutely agree. Unfortunately, for some reason in Russia, many people (apparently in their hatred of the United States) forget that China plays only by its own rules, and it needs only its goals to be realized.

[mvg]

Until now, the Chinese analogue of the HQ-9 air defense system is significantly inferior to what Russia supplied

Do you believe it yourself? And the HQ-9 is not a complete analogue of the S-300PMU2, there is a radar from Patriot-PAK2, and this one, supposedly inferior to the air defense system, won the Turkish tender several years ago in competition with the S-300/350 and the Americans ... probably inferior .. ( ((S-300 even North Korea learned to do, and Iran ..
PS: We will soon need to buy from the Chinese both air defense and ships and essno electronics .. By the way, about air defense, we’ve been a Polyman-Redoubt “shaman” for about 10 years, and the Chinese already have an analogue of RIM-116 and RIM- 126, on frigates 054A

[Muvka]

Quote: mvg

Until now, the Chinese analogue of the HQ-9 air defense system is significantly inferior to what Russia supplied

Do you believe it yourself? And the HQ-9 is not a complete analogue of the S-300PMU2, there is a radar from Patriot-PAK2, and this one, supposedly inferior to the air defense system, won the Turkish tender several years ago in competition with the S-300/350 and the Americans ... probably inferior .. ( ((S-300 even North Korea learned to do, and Iran ..
PS: We will soon need to buy from the Chinese both air defense and ships and essno electronics .. By the way, about air defense, we’ve been a Polyman-Redoubt “shaman” for about 10 years, and the Chinese already have an analogue of RIM-116 and RIM- 126, on frigates 054A

So how much did Turkey eventually buy regiments of these complexes?

[mvg]

Then Turkey caved in under the states ... but that wasn’t the question, but what did the Chinese air defense have more and more diverse and no worse, but somewhere else would be better. And certainly marine options are better ... Polymette doesn't “fly” and Fort-M is outdated with its 90 km and 3 channels ..

[Muvka]

That's exactly what I did not get. Nothing more to add. And about the polymer. Have you seen the effectiveness of the Chinese counterpart? Do you know the effectiveness? Why so confident in you?

[mvg]

And why would it be worse if the missiles took better (American), the element base is also better. (By an order of magnitude), the radar is at least no worse (they put AFARs on airplanes in series, but we don’t, and when it’s unknown), we have guidance algorithms, Yes, and copy with improvement - the wizard.
PS: Have you seen how Redoubt works? What about the shell? And the S-300 performed by Ukrainians? RIM-116 shot down 23 out of 24 supersonic targets .. And how much is the Shell in%? And how does it work on drones? And something in Syria already launched thousands of missiles, and only 1 plane was shot down ... and it is not known how many missiles ..

[Muvka]

On which aircraft do they put AFAR, except for the experimental J-20? And I see the shell of how it works in Syria. And it works perfectly in real combat conditions, and not at training grounds, in a communist state. Remind you of the USSR, where according to official information everything was fine and all the best. But in reality it was not always like that.

[mvg]

J-15 (Su-33), J-11B, J-10 Bl3
PS.: Regarding the USSR: maybe it wasn’t all right there, but NEVER there was such a thing that the whole world is against you. And you are in a state of undeclared war with everyone. And around our borders there are only enemies. Even Belarus and Kazakhstan and those faces are turned back, and pretend that there is nothing to do with it !!!
Try to fix it!

[Romka47]

Last summer, I was lying in a sackcloth, and so there were 2 grandfathers in my ward (1 right in my ward) who fought with the Chinese, they said that China would attack as soon as we arm it. They took them prisoner, they know them, they know what they are talking about.

[nikoliski]

and the Chinese, by the way, poked prisoners of the border guards on Damansky, so they’ll have to fight with a different culture, with a different mentality (the same Germans are nevertheless more intelligible to us and closer in blood, since they come from the Slavs-blue eyes, blond hair, and here it’s completely different a race that eats lizards and dogs as Koreans do not disdain)

[your1970]

Quote: nikoliski

and the Chinese, by the way, poked prisoners of the border guards on Damansky, so they’ll have to fight with a different culture, with a different mentality (the same Germans are nevertheless more intelligible to us and closer in blood, since they come from the Slavs-blue eyes, blond hair, and here it’s completely different a race that eats lizards and dogs as Koreans do not disdain)

-Germans are definitely more mental clear: they hanged / burned civilians and went on ....

[Zaurbek]

If China believed that in the next 10 years it would make an analogue (at least the S-300 transferred to a modern electronic base). This contract would not have been. China, like the Russian Federation, is surrounded on all sides with modern strike weapons (F-35, Tomogavki, etc.) and it seeks to receive adequate protection in the near future.

Take for example the Su-27/30 these sales are no longer there.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Zaurbek

If China believed that in the next 10 years it would make an analogue (at least the S-300 transferred to a modern electronic base). This contract would not have been.

China is an ancient culture, think slowly, strategically.
the calculation is in progress, here to develop efficiently on our own, here we’ll buy it, here we are nashpy.
they have a goal, they go to it slowly, not like us.
Russia is not in a simple position (among others, like many), attention is divided into at least two directions, west and east. both serious, dangerous.

[Zaurbek]

And China is not the easiest ... The economy is very large and depends on transport very much, and the roads can be blocked and stuck very much .... Even by non-nuclear forces. China understands that the air defense itself does not have time to build up and now buys the S-400. And the purchase of a license for the Su-27 just do a generation jump in aviation for China.

[Kolovrat Rus]

Quote: bagration

How much did the Chinese pay, or on credit like Erdogan?

And what do you hexagon, consider the money of Russia? Well, there’s a plug in every barrel!

[72jora72]

And what do you hexagon, consider the money of Russia? Well, there’s a plug in every barrel!

Well, a person needs to assert himself at least somewhere (if in real life it doesn’t work out).

[Kolovrat Rus]

Well sold and sold, all the same in a truncated version. What do you propose not to sell weapons. China will not be able to repeat the S-400 for too long. During this time, Russia. something like S-700 will appear. C-500 will soon be put into service.

[nikoliski]

I doubt very much that the Chinese industry spins up with such force that you are amazed at the growth of the economy of 17% per year! (And despite the fact that these 17% are approximately like our entire GDP)

[Runoway]

Quote: Magic Archer

Sometimes it’s not clear why we are strengthening China

It’s not a plus for the Russian Federation if China is squeezed, there are few of us who “disagree” (the Russian Federation, China, North Korea, Iran)

Quote: scientist

It’s just that the backlog will not be 15 years old as it is now, but will be reduced to 3-5 years.

When something similar about the Chinese fleet thought

[demiurg]

Is that China paid a mountain of money to officially receive 40H6E? Or will they now refine their S-300 for this missile, and buy modern missiles for them?

[marshes]

And what was so strange delivered already through the Lamansh, and not along the Transib?

Hoping to drown?

[An60]

We were afraid to carry around Kazakhstan.

[your1970]

generally really strange, there is no transit to third countries, the border .... strange !!!!

[Lexa-149]

Wait soon in service with the PLA S-400 from Xiaomi!

[Romka47]

On two SIM cards ....

[voyaka uh]

With photo option selfie photoshop

[Old26]

Quote: scientist

In 1993, Russia delivered the first S-300 to China. Until now, the Chinese counterpart of the HQ-9 is significantly inferior to what Russia supplied.

The most long-range missile of the S-300 complex, the 48N6E2 missile, has a range of 195 km. The Chinese version of the HQ-9A has approximately the same range of destruction - 200 km. But the missile complex HQ-9B has a destruction range of 300 km? Yields?

Quote: PROXOR

Nevertheless, they cannot arrange the production of their AL-31F engines comparable in terms of power and resource.

They can’t now - they can in 5-10 years, and maybe earlier. Their missiles have long been not copies of the Soviet. Their. And with very good performance characteristics ...

Quote: demiurg

Is that China paid a mountain of money to officially receive 40H6E? Or will they now refine their S-300 for this missile, and buy modern missiles for them?

They have already completed the rocket. At the exhibition, a couple of years ago, the HQ-9B complex was shown with a missile with a range of 300 km. Which exceeds the flight range 48N6E2

Quote: dzvero

The Chinese will have to create their own, which is not so simple.

Not so easy. But they create. Their range of air defense systems is much larger than ours ... And they make their own air defense systems without our help. There are analogues of our “Vityaz”, which we do not have yet, there are analogues of the American “Standard SM-3”, there are analogues of the American complex THAAD

[Zaurbek]

If a country invests brains and money in this business, sooner or later it will catch up with the leaders if it does not undergo aggression or revolution with washing out money and brains from the country.

[scientist]

Quote: Old26

The most long-range missile of the S-300 complex, the 48N6E2 missile, has a range of 195 km. The Chinese version of the HQ-9A has approximately the same range of destruction - 200 km. But the missile complex HQ-9B has a destruction range of 300 km? Yields?

We had one teacher in VA East Kazakhstan region who said a very clever thing: "the interference suppression coefficient in Soviet complexes equal to 20 dB differs significantly from 20 dB in Russian systems." But this problem is not only in Russian measurement methods during the tests, there are no more than 30-50% differences from the Soviet ones. It is much more interesting to see the differences in the test methods of weapons of British and Chinese companies, there are differences at times!
For example, in 2006, after a series of tests, at a press conference, an official representative of BAE Systems announced "thanks to your experts, we began to know our technology even better".

[mvg]

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I did not see this comment ... I painted the same thing ...

[Bongo]

Recall C-400 - medium-range and long-range anti-aircraft missile system. Able to destroy aerodynamic targets at a distance of 400 km...

Yes, you sho? Zur 40H6E finally adopted and began to deliver to the troops?

[The Siberian barber]

Now, narrow-eyed guys with screwdrivers and pliers, will stick around this device, and will be gained in the mind

[mvg]

and will be recruited to the mind

And they will ho-ho from our elemental base and remember the brown bear in bast shoes.

[nikoliski]

I'm not happy at all

[ver_]

Quote: voyaka uh

They did not populate Siberia, and Dalniy
East - yes. Russia won it from China at the end of the 19th century. The Chinese do not claim Siberia.
But in Vladivostok, Khabarovsk, Blagoveshchensk on Chinese maps, their old Chinese names.
I say that Russia has to protect these places, not give them away.

... but on old maps - Beijing has * driven * - Bel kan = white khan ..