Protest posters in Yaroslavl removed in a few hours

A photo from Yaroslavl was published on the social network VKontakte, telling about how local residents protested to the State Duma deputies for supporting those voiced version of the pension reform. The posters present photographs of such deputies as Alexander Gribov, Valentina Tereshkova and Ilya Osipov. The inscriptions on the banners read: "Shame."

These banners were hung by the tramway for several hours. Then, vigilant citizens reported them “where necessary”, and the posters expressing the reaction of the population were removed.

Recall that the idea of ​​raising the retirement age for men and women on 5 and 8 years, respectively, was supported by 328 deputies of the State Duma of the Russian Federation. All voted for - representatives of the party "United Russia". Among those who refused to support the bill was United Russia’s deputy Natalya Poklonskaya, who decided to go against the general line of the party.

Voting in the State Duma is accompanied by an aggressive media campaign on federal TV channels, where in the format of the real theater of the absurd it is announced that in 63 "our women are still giving birth", or that men die before 65, then they are to blame. In this case, if people express frank dissatisfaction with the voiced proposals for pension reform, they are immediately recorded in the ranks of "Ukrainian trolls or network bots." Apparently, posters in Yaroslavl are also the work of Ukrainian “trolls” and no one else. After all, the rest of the government version of the pension reform is warmly supported.

Comments

[Vard]

"Hey, you up there! Don't stomp like elephants!" And I propose declaring war on Singapore!

[RASKAT]

People, calm down, take care of your nerves. All the same, this law is dragged. In the country of capitalism, when did capitalism care about people?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: RASKAT

People, calm down, take care of your nerves.

Relax and enjoy!

[The black]

From the network:
By 2018, the entire population of Russia was divided into the following separate social groups:
- oligarchs 187 people.
- corrupt officials 579 people.
- criminals suspected of calling for a change in the existing political system 138 people.

[The black]

... While I am president, I will not like raising the retirement age in Russia .....

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Black

.. While I am president, I will not like raising the retirement age in Russia .....

amputation with gangrene does not like the current, the question is whether

[dorz]

the idea of ​​raising the retirement age for men and women at 5 and 8 years, respectively, was supported by 328 deputies of the State Duma of the Russian Federation

[MPN]

the idea of ​​raising the retirement age for men and women at 5 and 8 years, respectively, was supported by 328 deputies of the State Duma of the Russian Federation

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

do not stop there, you can shoot doctors for amputation
start thinking, and not "yurying" to shout, I don’t remember something about the cries of executions when they adopted idiotic laws on women’s underpants and ballet flats

[MPN]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

do not stop there, you can shoot doctors for amputation

Nothing beguiled? It’s just the doctors who amputate the disease right at the stadium, but do you propose to shoot them?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

are you beguiled equal corruption and lawmaking

[cast iron]

And we will not stop - we will amputate people like you in batches. Get ready.

[conservative]

And we will not stop - we will amputate people like you in batches. Get ready.

I will quote you. the character. and I’ll highlight - so that everyone reads how you got sick

have you revolutionized the internet for a long time and put it to the wall?

how many already shot? and if you didn’t shoot, then whose team are you waiting for?

and you with a pestle? a lot of bullets?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: cast iron

we will be amputated in batches like you. Get ready.

Kaliningrad region, Pravdinsky district, pos. real quick, the farm, the name and surname. when to expect?!
official labor activity from 14 years old, to 39 years old, working out of pension experience

p / s / the next time you threaten someone, get the courage to do this not hiding behind a nickname, but under your own name

[cradle]

well, that’s why you don’t remember that about women’s underpants and ballet flats ... whatever the child would be amused, if only the pension reform would not start

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

first you have not been taught not to poke strangers?
second, so were the "popular" unrest or not?

[your1970]

Quote: MPN

the idea of ​​raising the retirement age for men and women at 5 and 8 years, respectively, was supported by 328 deputies of the State Duma of the Russian Federation

time spent already in stadiums, then it doesn’t help already KNOWLEDGE that they shoot show??

[New Year day]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

amputation with gangrene does not like the current, the question is whether

Amputation can be done in different ways - partially or all at once

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Silvestr

Amputation can be done in different ways - partially or all at once

partially this is in the sense of five times a piece ?!

[Litvinov]

You need to start from the head!

[Bastion Eagle]

Yah! You can poke holes at the expense of the population, you can pretend that you are engaged in innovative breakthrough projects, and at the same time rob the elderly! Either we are the State, and we set the goals of development and growth in the consolidation of citizens .... or these games will lead to protest. I think everyone remembers the results ... they taught history!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Bulwark Eagle

Either we are the State, and we set the goals of development and growth in the consolidation of citizens .... or these games will lead to protest.

then forward back to socialism, and neither will the people lead to protest, the people themselves will not protest

[Tibidokh]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

The people themselves do not protest

You confuse "people" and "slaves."
Any people, in any country in the world protest. The right to protest is recorded in the Constitution of the Russian Federation.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Tibidokh

You confuse "people" and "slaves."

I don’t confuse what, you absolutely do not understand what you are writing about

Quote: Tibidokh

Any people, in any country in the world protest. The right to protest is recorded in the Constitution of the Russian Federation.

can you name at least one "popular" speech, where the "people" of CAM rose without organizers in the form of parties or trade unions

[Tibidokh]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

you absolutely do not understand what you are writing about

No, you absolutely do not understand what you are writing about. How do you like this "constructive"?

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

can you name at least one

Let me give you what is heard - protest movements in Sergiev Posad against garbage terrorism.

[reservist]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

amputation with gangrene does not like the current, the question is whether

I recalled the joke:

The boa constricted.
Baby Elephant: Let's cut off the head of a boa constrictor.
All: No, it’s brutally strong. Still, a friend in the past ...
Baby Elephant: Let's cut the tail boa.
All: There is no bazaar.
Baby Elephant: Cut the tail to the very head.

In Germany, too, they are raising the retirement age, they have been warned for five years, and they will add one month a year.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Well, firstly, now the retirement age in Germany is higher than in the Russian Federation, and secondly, we seem to be raising the same thing more than once

[notingem]

Go out and dawdle. I'm for pension reform. Better than 8 o’clock in the morning when the hard workers go. You don’t even need a pension

[volodimer]

If you are lucky, you will need ... for disability

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: notingem

Go outside and dawdle

I don’t know, on our site in general rudeness has become normal ?! did we drink Brudershaft or graze sheep together ?! what are you poking me? !!!

Quote: notingem

Better hours at 8 am on the subway when hard workers go

I get up at 5 and go feed the cattle

[Nosgoth]

And it seems to me that some people are going to work to scribble "on the Internet" under a made-up legend. And no need to tell that we do not have this. It turns out that you are too power-hungry sneak, with the pull of your ears that everyone is waiting will not wait for the increase of the retirement age.

And speaking of Germany, can you tell me the average age of men in Germany and Russia? And how much can each of them "enjoy" "life" in retirement? About the fact that you were banned in Google, excuses are not accepted. I am generally silent about the level of pensions.

Hereditary Crimean, son of a Russian officer?

[reservist]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Well, firstly, now the retirement age in Germany is higher than in the Russian Federation

Germans live longer than ours

secondly, we have the same kind of raise

warned for six months, not five years
raise for 6 months, not 1 for a year

because for the Germans this is the second time, they probably already know something about the consequences of too quick changes (for example, the same youth unemployment) ...

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Well, firstly, now the retirement age in Germany is higher than in the Russian Federation

And the size of pensions will be the same higher, 5 times?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Ingvar 72

And the amount of pensions

and the costs?

[Nosgoth]

Google about the extent of corruption at least in recent years, there are trillions of rubles. What prevents a better budget planning, it is better to fight corruption, and not to cover up all sorts of "brilliant managers" and managers.
Russia has money for everything, only this money is not intended for everyone, only for "their own". This is the whole problem that illiterate managers are trying to shift to the people.

[Stone]

Foreigners robbed the country: intervention and the Great Patriotic War, survived just wild 90 with an uncontrolled outflow of wealth from the country, and still, despite the country's wild robbery, no one raised the retirement age, even Yeltsin did not encroach on it, despite the fact that in those days there was nothing to pay a pension. I would like to ask WHO SAME AS RABBED US NOW that we had to raise the age?

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Sten

I would like to ask WHO SAME AS RABBED US NOW that we had to raise the age?

like who-organized crime groups that have built into power during the reign of GDP. Or do you think that the bandits were going to develop the country ?!

[New Year day]

something of one figure is not visible

[gaura]

"like who - organized crime groups that have built into power during the reign of GDP"
Still, before the reign of GDP, there were no people in power who robbed the country? all came with him? Tired of you with your crazy phrases.

[Tibidokh]

Quote: gaura

Tired of you with your crazy phrases.

Sounds like Peskov’s official comment ...

[gaura]

A capacious answer, its thoughtfulness is felt

[Loess]

Quote: Sten

Foreigners robbed the country: intervention and the Great Patriotic War, survived just wild 90 with an uncontrolled outflow of wealth from the country, and still, despite the country's wild robbery, no one raised the retirement age, even Yeltsin did not encroach on it, despite the fact that in those days there was nothing to pay a pension. I would like to ask WHO SAME AS RABBED US NOW that we had to raise the age?

Correct a little, with your permission. During the intervention, pensions were not paid. During the Great Patriotic War, most of the population did not rely on pensions. In the wild 90 retirees, begging in droves in droves or collecting bottles on the streets.

Quote: Sten

even Yeltsin did not encroach on this, despite the fact that in those days there was nothing to pay pension

He did not pay ... Moreover, not only pensions, but also salaries ...

[ibn.shamai]

Quote: Less

Quote: Sten

Foreigners robbed the country: intervention and the Great Patriotic War, survived just wild 90 with an uncontrolled outflow of wealth from the country, and still, despite the country's wild robbery, no one raised the retirement age, even Yeltsin did not encroach on it, despite the fact that in those days there was nothing to pay a pension. I would like to ask WHO SAME AS RABBED US NOW that we had to raise the age?

Correct a little, with your permission. During the intervention, pensions were not paid. During the Great Patriotic War, most of the population did not rely on pensions. In the wild 90 retirees, begging in droves in droves or collecting bottles on the streets.

Quote: Sten

even Yeltsin did not encroach on this, despite the fact that in those days there was nothing to pay pension

He did not pay ... Moreover, not only pensions, but also salaries ...

Do not la la! During the war in Chechnya, people (Grozny) received pensions in full! True, they had to travel outside the republic.

[prapor55]

Here you are wrong, during the late Yeltsin, pensions were paid regularly, with salaries and there was a complete seam. By the way, many families survived then thanks to these pensions.

[ibn.shamai]

Quote: Sten

Foreigners robbed the country: intervention and the Great Patriotic War, survived just wild 90 with an uncontrolled outflow of wealth from the country, and still, despite the country's wild robbery, no one raised the retirement age, even Yeltsin did not encroach on it, despite the fact that in those days there was nothing to pay a pension. I would like to ask WHO SAME AS RABBED US NOW that we had to raise the age?

So our managers constantly brag about how much they sold gas and oil, weapons, grain, etc.! Money is flowing straight into the river! But retired is still not enough! Where is the logic? Lied, nowhere else !!!

[Serg koma]

Quote: ibn.shamai

Where is the logic?

But with arithmetic it’s good
10000 (pension approximately) * 12 (months) * 8 (years increase in the retirement age of women) = 960 tr

In Russia as a whole, life expectancy (expected) is 71,39 years, for men 65,92 and for women 76,71 years
http://www.statdata.ru

76 (cf. women's life) - 63 (retirement) = 13 years
13 (years of life after retirement) * 12000 (increase in pension per year) = 156 TR (a woman will receive in the form of an increase in retirement)
960t.r - 156 tr = 804 tr STATE "SAVING" ON PENSIONS OF WOMEN
11000 (women's pension per month with "indexation")) * 12 = 132 tr (per year)
804t.r./ 132 6 = XNUMX (years after retirement, a woman receives the PFR money saved on her)
Arithmetic is even sadder for men -
10000 (approximately pension) * 12 (months) * 5 (years increase in the retirement age of men) = 600 tr
66 (cf. male life expectancy) -65 (retirement) = 1 year
1 * 11000 * 12 = 132000 rubles per year.
600 tr - 132t.r. = 468 rubles; PFR's SAVING Pension for men.

468t.r. (pension not received by men) / 132t.r. (pension for a year) = 3.5 years of UNPROPECTED pension.
As it turned out earlier, a woman keeps herself retired due to a pension reform of 6 years, up to cf. life expectancy of 76 years - 63 (retirement) - 6 ("self-contained") - 3.5 (years of "saved" on men) = 3.5 years

Conclusion: the FIU after the adoption of the pension reform actually pays a pension of only 3.5 years to women. The rest is the "budget" in profit.

PS Sorry, I'm not Kudrin or Siluyanov, I just know a little bit of arithmetic, and also don’t own all the information on pensioners and pre-retirement residents of our country ... Therefore, the figures are either from open sources http: //www.statdata .ru (2017), or an approximate pension taken for the convenience of calculating 10000 rubles.

[alexmach]

So, firstly, pensions were then purely symbolic, and secondly, the ratio of working-age to pensioners was different.

[cosmonaut]

so then the salaries were purely symbolic. at the expense of the ratio, you don’t need to steal, pay taxes, take taxes from rich people within your means, not 6 percent.

[prapor55]

Ask your parents about the purchasing power of the population up to the age of 98, but you were raised if you had enough pensions.

[Lumumba]

You sir are frankly lying! At that time in the 90s, pensions did not pay from the word at all! My grandmother lived together for 90 years, was completely on our content! I remember everything perfectly! Now the father-in-law with the mother-in-law is retired, I don’t know how much pension they have, but they live well, without fanaticism, of course, there are always grandchildren at hotels! Now look carefully, what kind of pensions, for example, do the military have with full length of service? You

[yehat]

my acquaintance retired from the army left at 38, the rank of underground. (missile)
received an apartment for FREE and a pension of 35 tr
my mother retired at age 55. pension is a minimum. not a single ruble increase, although she lived and worked in Siberia for 30 years and worked in engineering positions that paid well under the USSR. And by the way, she was a deputy.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Sten

despite the fact that in those days there was nothing to pay pension.

I mean, you propose to leave the age unchanged and not pay ?!

[Tatyana]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

I mean, you propose to leave the age unchanged and not pay ?!

You are a strange adherent of oligarchic capitalism in the Russian Federation. And not in their favor and not in favor of your family.

Vladimir! Enough to “troll” - all the same, the LABOR people absolutely have no faith in you. You are engaged in profanity. Your polemic arguments limited in the breadth of the overview plan in favor of raising the retirement age by the neoliberal government of Medvedev and with the support of Putin, are absolutely neither ideologically, economically, nor politically scientifically untenable and therefore not convincing for the people and lead ordinary people only as a victim to slaughter the enemy and slow kill-kill.
I don’t know whether you understand it or not. If you are economically afloat now, then the government will lower you to the bottom. One does not have to wait for another from neoliberals.
All of your compromising profanity works exclusively in favor of the bureaucrats-"marketers" of the pro-Western colonial administration of the USA in the Russian Federation of the "Chubais-Gaidar-Kudrinsky" sense since the 1990 years and the colonial-oligarchic regime in the country.

You are in vain blocking off the Medvedev government. The constitutional-colonial regime in the Russian Federation with its law "On the Central Bank of Russia" will not stop there. It is all about the most anti-national political system in the country.

It is noteworthy that in Russia absolutely the same processes are going on as in Ukraine. And there, and there is built oligarchic capitalism with all the ensuing consequences. And your agreement with the oligarchic colonial power in the Russian Federation is not only short-sighted, but also dangerous for both the people and the country as a whole, and for your family, if you have one. Namely, for all the national security of Russia in geopolitical terms.
The country of Russia may simply disappear from the political map of the world — and this is precisely what the collective West is counting on.
The authorities have not prepared for you, your children and grandchildren in this oligarchic capitalism and do not provide for any place. By and large, they have prepared for you the fate of "biological" disposal and the end of your family! At the same time, you not only compromise with the belief in an economic market miracle with a monetarist grin, scramble into the grave, but also drag other fellow citizens to the grave with you. This is not good on your part!

In this regard, a very frank statement by the Ukrainian Zionist Igor Berkut is very revealing. Namely, everything that this American-Kazakh banker and publicist Berkut (by the name of Gecko) talks about Ukrainians and Ukraine, fully and completely applies to Russians and the Russian Federation.

5 millions of inhabitants will be enough for Ukraine, the rest will be utilized by Igor Berkut. Published: 1 Oct. 2014 of the year.


In the Russian Federation, Medvedev and Putin, according to their obligations to the IMF (read - the US Federal Reserve), believe that they also do not need "extra mouths"

[Mr Credo]

Good video! Replace Ukraine with Russia, one to one! Although of course the same thing can be said about globalization.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Tatiana

Vladimir! Enough to “troll” - all the same, the LABOR people absolutely have no faith in you.

Troll is you, what is your working experience ?!

Quote: Tatiana

Your polemic justifications limited in the breadth of the overview plan ...

just unlike you, I think and not hurry yelling without a topic

Quote: Tatiana

And there, and there is built oligarchic capitalism with all the ensuing consequences.

Well, we refused socialism, now we are eating what we gave

p / s / are there real proposals for smearing snot on a plate?

[Tatyana]

.

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

just unlike you, I think and not hurry yelling without a topic

Again troll please? Especially about the cries of "Urya without a topic."
You are clearly confusing me with someone. Get on already!

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

p / s / are there real proposals for smearing snot on a plate?

There is. No pension reform can be carried out with such a neoliberal government at all - in principle! It is necessary to change the pseudo-market ideology and economy in the Russian Federation in essence - from the Constitution of the Russian Federation and the Law "On the Central Bank of Russia" to the revision of the results of privatization in the Russian Federation and everything connected with it.
By half measures, how do you strive compromisingly to get rid of the treacherous pressure of the neoliberals in the modern government of the Russian Federation and personally by Putin, the country cannot be saved.

[your1970]

Quote: Tatiana

before reviewing the results of privatization in the Russian Federation and everything connected with it.

- Have you tried to turn on the brain?
canceled the privatization? wonderful !! the collective farm plant became back state-wonderful !!
And then the chairman comes to the citizens and says, those who worked out their housing in the USSR live like that, and those who did not work on the collective farm for a day, but inherited / bought it, from tomorrow or go out into the field or move out !!
And it will have to be, for the apartments / houses were collective farms and were PROPERTY organizations ....
Do you like this situation?
or do you want to limit yourself to 3 companies in privatization ?? alas, it doesn’t work out .... first you have to medium ones, then a trifle, and then citizens

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: your1970

ohms were collective farms and were the PROPERTY of the organization ....

for the collective farm this does not work, the collective farm is collective property

[Tatyana]

Quote: your1970

Quote: Tatiana
before reviewing the results of privatization in the Russian Federation and everything connected with it.

- Have you tried to turn on the brain? canceled the privatization? great !! factory, collective farm became back state-wonderful!
or do you wish to be limited to 3 companies in privatization ?? alas, it won’t work out .... first the middle ones will have to, then the trifle, and then the citizens

Sergey! You think it fine, but I don’t turn on my brain. This is you, except for collective farms you see nothing!

The plan for the transition of the Russian Federation to terry oligarchic capitalism with the help of American developers and curators during the reign of B.N. Yeltsin was conceived in exactly the same way as the American flag of reforms of the same Chubais and Gaidar - "reformers in short pants" and other neoliberal Russian ideological "economists" (such as Yasin and his ilk) and in the interests of foreign states.
First, it’s enough to recall the testimony of Vladimir Pavlovich Polevanov, the former Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation (1994-1995 year) about the deliberate “mistakes” of privatization in the Russian Federation, in contrast to other countries in transition.

SHOCK THERAPY AND CHUBAIS. Published: July 21 2012 of the year.

Vladimir Pavlovich Polevanov (born on November 11, November 1949) is a Russian statesman and politician, president of the Apsakan mining company, chairman of the Golden Bridge consortium, vice president of the Russian Strategic Resources Fund, former chairman of the Russian State Committee for State Management property (1994-1995 year), former Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation (1994-1995 year).

And secondly, one should take into account the recognition of Chubais himself on the issue of privatization and the purpose for which this privatization was carried out and what it immediately turned into. Namely:
- The largest Samara Metallurgical Plant in Europe was sold for $ 2., 2 million, i.e. for 2 exclusive car maybach
- Automobile plant them. Likhachev for $ 4 million
- PJSC Uralmash with 34 thousand workers for 3,723 million
- Chelyabinsk Metallurgical Plant with 35 thousand workers for $ 3,73 million
- Kovrov Mechanical Plant, providing weapons to the entire army, police, special services for $ 2,7 million
- Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant with 54 thousand workers for $ 2.2.
TOTAL On the sale of the largest Russian enterprises, the value of which exceeded $ 1 trillion, the treasury received $ 7,2 billion.

The foreigners turned out to be blocking packages of domestic engine building of the Aviadvigatel Design Bureau and the Perm Motors plant. Foreign company owns shares:
- Irkutsk Aviation Production Association - manufacturer of SU.
- OJSC "ANTK named after Tupolev"
- Saratov "Signal"
- CJSC Euromil
American and British firms became owners of shares of APO Mig, OKB Sukhoi, OKB im. Yakovleva, Aviation Complex them. Ilyushina
The German company SIMENS seized about 20% of the shares of the Kaluga Turbine Plant, producing unique equipment for nuclear submarines.
Conclusion of the Accounts Chamber: "Foreigners have captured the strategically significant and economically important enterprises of the defense complex." Moreover, the share of the state of the Russian Federation amounted to only 14%. This is not even a blocking package that the state was building the 10 anniversary!

Chubais told the truth about privatization. Published: 1 * Feb. 2010

[your1970]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

for the collective farm this does not work, the collective farm is collective property

- channels, houses were not included in units — therefore, they were not allocated in units, only land and funds: real estate / transport / agricultural equipment
besides - the state farm does not pass at all

Quote: Tatiana

Conclusion of the Accounts Chamber: "Foreigners have captured the strategically significant and economically important enterprises of the defense complex." Moreover, the share of the state of the Russian Federation amounted to only 14%. This is not even a blocking package that the state was building the 10 anniversary!

- you didn’t hear me again ...
Defense enterprises for the average citizen are the place of work, nothing more. And by and large, he’s the boss, who’s the boss, if he just paid grandmas on time
But for example, his house - it affects him PERSONALLY, a small merchant's shop in the shops of the former defense plant affects - he personally, the farmer and his land bought for his living money from fellow villagers (I haven’t taken away the variations for now) - if necessary, return state farm / collective farm-affect him personally ...
And do not- "We will not touch the small medium-sized business and the small owner !!" - you FORCED you will rot it !!! Otherwise, the collective farm / state farm will have no land, the factory premises ...
And accordingly - the people will not have work ..

And in a year the people will say - and why do we need such privatization - if a better / easier not???? !!!!!!!!!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Tatiana

It is necessary to change the pseudo-market ideology and economy in the Russian Federation in essence - from the Constitution of the Russian Federation and the Law "On the Central Bank of Russia" to the revision of the results of privatization in the Russian Federation and everything connected with it.

how, SPECIFIC offers? !!!

[maykl8]

By 2018, the entire population of Russia was divided into the following separate social groups:
- oligarchs 187 people.
- corrupt officials 579 people.
- criminals suspected of calling for a change in the existing political system 138 people

Do you have a suspicion corporation handed to a suspect or is it a fake?

[1536]

And move each of the millions voiced by you one line higher, and then it is as if he will have another language, and the brains of replacement. Don't you think?
It is said that the ancient Greek philosopher Socrates from his time said that "Every nation deserves its government"But, you must admit, our people are very, very intelligent and wonderful, and not everyone wants to move from line to line. Maybe this is the problem?

[Fkjydjckfrgh]

But, you must admit, our people are very, very clever and wonderful
76% carl. And about the same numbers since 2000

[maykl8]

Quote: 1536

"Every nation deserves its government".

The government also has nowhere to go from the people. I would not separate them at all. And it turns out that the people picked up this government somewhere or this government was handed over to the people for its moral qualities.

[gaura]

100 000 is urged to change the state system, and millions of people are satisfied with the current situation, that you can do anything you like to fly your own tummy to Turkey in the sun in private property, even if it's just an apartment in Khrushchev. Do not overestimate the opinions of the people

[Tibidokh]

Quote: gaura

by force 100

Judging by the likes, the vast majority of the members of the "VO" are 100 "calling for a change in the state system."
Perhaps we, in your opinion, and as Litter said, "eternal 2% ... bullshit."

[gaura]

Are you calling with likes? Serious organization Sitting, bay, like is not a call for a change of order, otherwise the FSB would be interested in you.

[Tibidokh]

Quote: gaura

Are you calling with likes? Serious organization

I am not calling for anything. I express dissatisfaction with your lies about 100, when people all over Russia are shocked by: the appointment of Kompot as prime minister; raising the retirement age; VAT increase; increase in fuel prices; increase the cost of housing and communal services.

Quote: gaura

call for a change of order

The call to change the system of "aka dictatorship of Edra" is not a criminal offense. Criminally punishable is the call for the violent overthrow of the system.

Quote: gaura

otherwise the FSB would be interested in you

Would you personally compile a report and register with KUSP?

[gaura]

To be in shock and to like interesting pictures is not the same with an appeal, etc. Be aware of this. Most people, as always, are apolitical. How many thousands of people attended the rallies in Moscow in the millions of millions in the most active 2012 year? well, 120 thousand against 12 million. This is 1%! Some of these people went for money. So enough for all the people to speak. Excuse the people, either do not care for the most part, or they don’t believe in anything.

Would you personally compile a report and register with KUSP?

If I knew how it stands, I could answer this question

[your1970]

Quote: Tibidokh

VAT increase

when they lowered with 28 to 18 people were not in shock - what prices did not fall??

[Dmitry Konoplev]

Somehow you greatly underestimated the number of inhabitants (separatists) of Russia. At a minimum, the figure should be around 144 m.h.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Quote: RASKAT

People, calm down, take care of your nerves.

Relax and enjoy!

They only do that they enjoy. Yaroslavl people in general are specific. Until they get into their pocket, they vote for the United Russia with four limbs and plus one more limb, depending on gender, and simultaneously fight with the communist legacy. But as soon as they hit them with a pension issue, they immediately hung up banners in order to brand those who were chosen as a shame. Damn, if the Communist Party gave each Yaroslavl 10 thousand on hand and without painting, they would choose the Communists, but unfortunately their budget is not comparable to United Russia. Then, in front of the mundial in Yaroslavl, they pinned and drove “(B) lady” with an offer to the fans for showing her boobs to shout fame to the rival teams. They shouted like cats in March, not burdening themselves with patriotism.

[Servisinzhener]

And when the USSR was different? They also changed everything at the request of the working people.

[Stas Snezhin]

Prophecy..

[cosmonaut]

People, calm down, take care of your nerves. Anyway, this law is dragged

oh thanks for the advice, I’ll definitely do it, I’ll swallow it again. But where have you seen capitalism? I see speculators and thieves

[free]

Quote: RASKAT

People, calm down, take care of your nerves. All the same, this law is dragged. In the country of capitalism, when did capitalism care about people?

In no case! The law is certainly dragged, but it will not go away for free.

[For example]

Now we’ll come up with a bridge to Alaska and go down in history! And pensioners themselves are to blame for having survived to such an age.

[Vard]

Well, everyone here is cursing ... There is nothing to say specifically ... For example, I propose selling pensioners vodka, cigarettes and other pleasures at a cost price excluding VAT ... And allowing them to cross the road to a red light ... Women offered to reduce the gestational age to seven months! We will support comrades ... We will make the age of survival five years ...

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Anyone who does not understand. why do I need a bridge, I want to live in an area where there are no roads and need to be ferried. Then it will be possible to discuss the need for bridges. I remember how people stood in lines of the ferry in the 90s in the Magpies in Tatarstan and what scandals there were until the bridge was built. Sometimes cars were turned over because they tried to skip the line. As people walked on foot in winter on ice. Buses landed on one side, people walked 3 - 4 kilometers on foot, with bags, trunks, and in Sorochiye Gory they got on another bus.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

Anyone who does not understand. why do I need a bridge, I want to live in an area where there are no roads and need to be ferried. Then it will be possible to discuss the need for bridges.

Why do we need bridges? Everyone understands. But for what this, on Sakhalin, is not. There is neither a large population, nor an economy of the required volume. And aquatic biological resources in the sea are obtained by ships and transported by ships to processing sites. How such a project pays off in this case is not at all clear.

[Alex 2016]

The Japanese, along with the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin will sell. Summing up the "scientific", "historical" and other justification. And the money is for their own benefit.

[AnpeL]

almost half a million people. no matter how large it is for you, apparently. so ... a dying village for several residents

[Leshy1975]

Quote: AnpeL

almost half a million people. no matter how large it is for you, apparently. so ... a dying village for several residents

Well, then you give then for every half a million inhabitants on a mega project. Since economic expediency has nothing to do with money.

[AnpeL]

Do not bend. In each case, its own situation - here the question has ripened for a long time and this is really a necessity for the people of the island. But I do not argue with you - for every half a million. inhabitants on a megaproject, but at least for every thousand inhabitants.

[GRF]

Quote: Leshy1975

Quote: AnpeL

almost half a million people. no matter how large it is for you, apparently. so ... a dying village for several residents

Well, then you give then for every half a million inhabitants on a mega project. Since economic expediency has nothing to do with money.

Build infrastructure for residents of the Russian Federation? What are you! You need to invest money in American super reliable treasuries with a chic economic effect, right?

[Leshy1975]

Quote: GRF

Quote: Leshy1975

Quote: AnpeL

almost half a million people. no matter how large it is for you, apparently. so ... a dying village for several residents

Well, then you give then for every half a million inhabitants on a mega project. Since economic expediency has nothing to do with money.

Build infrastructure for residents of the Russian Federation? What are you! You need to invest money in American super reliable treasuries with a chic economic effect, right?

Not. You need to build where it is more needed and economically viable. And exactly what is most needed. And not everywhere, and if only a larger megaproject .. Otherwise, show the money for such construction projects. Well, they built stadiums for the mundial (for the victories of the national team, please do not fasten the topic). So what's next? The population of, for example, Saransk is 314. (789), then they really need it? There is a good article on this subject: (source news.sportbox.ru) "Half of the stadiums that will host the 2017 World Cup matches do not have a team playing in the Premier League, which promises them an unenviable fate after the tournament." This is also an infrastructure that also needs to be supported! At whose expense, where is the economy? Or whatever they say at the top, right away! Yes, no citizens, patriotism is not that. And the treasury has nothing to do with it. If you invest in unprofitable projects, then this is the path to bankruptcy. Where to invest? Yes, there are many places where it is more necessary, perhaps against the bridge, and even against the stadiums in not the largest cities so precisely. If some people here are concerned about the population, so starting from honey. centers, so that the whole country does not collect money for treatment abroad. Or is it not infrastructure anymore? Or maybe it’s easier to increase billions of dollars from contracts with mega-amendments, some of which are very economically doubtful, on contracts?

[Igor V]

. Well, they built stadiums for the mundial

Smash at last. The stadiums were built with FIFA money and only the infrastructure on their own. The Premier League is an oligarch league, but there are other leagues.
Do you really think that without the World Cup there would be no increase in age? It would be better if associated with the elections.
In general, I am an optimist. Back in the 70s they wrote that our generation would not survive to retirement. Now, it turns out, my life was extended. Five more years - not khukh-mukhras!

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Igor V

. Well, they built stadiums for the mundial

Smash at last. The stadiums were built with FIFA money and only the infrastructure on their own. The Premier League is an oligarch league, but there are other leagues.
Do you really think that without the World Cup there would be no increase in age? It would be better if associated with the elections.
In general, I am an optimist. Back in the 70s they wrote that our generation would not survive to retirement. Now, it turns out, my life was extended. Five more years - not khukh-mukhras!

In general, the contents of stadiums are hung up on regional budgets, which are already scarce in many cases.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Leshy1975

Generally the contents of stadiums are hung up on regional budgets

in fact, only after five years

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Igor V

Smash at last. The stadiums were built with FIFA money and only the infrastructure on their own.

Manuals at edrosovskih trolls updated ?! Enchanting nonsense .. In St. Petersburg, in general, they built it from the city budget, the rest from the federal budget, although Poltavchenko was actively trying to get in there. FIFA money, blurted out too - there are no fools

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Stirbjorn

Manuals at edrosovskih trolls updated ?!

you write for completeness - olga troll

[Igor V]

Quote: Stirbjorn

Quote: Igor V

Smash at last. The stadiums were built with FIFA money and only the infrastructure on their own.

Manuals at edrosovskih trolls updated ?! Enchanting nonsense .. In St. Petersburg, in general, they built it from the city budget, the rest from the federal budget, although Poltavchenko was actively trying to get in there. FIFA money, blurted out too - there are no fools

Submit estimates, netroll! I already wrote about St. Petersburg, you need to be in the know. And there are no fools, well, except for you.

[yehat]

there at least three quarters do not steal
just a little burn.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: Leshy1975

Why do we need bridges? Everyone understands. But for what this, on Sakhalin, is not.

I think the residents of Sakhalin are well aware. Infrastructure development is just right and right; oligarchosis is needed to shake pensions.

[prapor55]

The city of Omsk with a population of 1,2 million, as they say, the bridge over the Omka River in the city center has already been postponed for 4 times. Incidentally, those plants that emit “aromas” from the refineries' production and clean up the harmfulness at these plants are removed at the first cosmic speed, where they will give the kettle, where the fence will be painted — this is not quite literal, but I think the meaning is clear.

[Loess]

Quote: AnpeL

almost half a million people. no matter how large it is for you,

Some believe that there is no life beyond the Moscow Ring Road.

[Vadim237]

Do not worry - your pension and you will not have any relation to this bridge.

[Vlad.by]

Another "John Vasilievich" ...
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[PalBor]

So that's the point. Build bridges where they are needed, through the Lena, for example, and not where it is easier to saw.

[Servisinzhener]

Is a bridge to the city where 300 thousand people live very necessary, and a bridge to a region with half a million people is a waste and cut?

[PalBor]

It is not a matter of numbers, but of expediency and urgency. A trillion for the possibility of a trip to the mainland of five thousand people and the supply of fuel twice a year for a TPP? Hmm ... Yes, for this money, you can bring several federal highways into a modern look so that people do not die.

[Ivan Ivanov]

On Sakhalin, 500 thousand people live as if they were cut off, they’re not going to build for the first time, how can we determine the urgency, the only question is that dozens of bridges are needed, different funds need to be shaken for this.

[PalBor]

Quote: IvanIvanov

On Sakhalin, 500 thousand people live as if they were cut off, they’re not going to build for the first time, how can we determine the urgency, the only question is that dozens of bridges are needed, different funds need to be shaken for this.

Well yes. Funds without shaking do not work.
The Israelis, no matter how they treat them, are quite favorably disposed towards the Russian Crimea ... So, they proposed to establish drip irrigation of the northern Crimea for 150 million. Officials, by the way, primarily Crimean, said no! We will build desalination plants for industrial water for 6 billion.
Guess why?

[your1970]

because drip irrigation requires a complete replacement of the tape through 3 of the year maximum

[Alex66]

Through Lena, to Sakhalin, we cannot be built through Iset for 10 years, they promise at every mayoral election, the whole city travels around 20 km bypass.

[SSR]

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

Anyone who does not understand. why do I need a bridge, I want to live in an area where there are no roads and need to be ferried. Then it will be possible to discuss the need for bridges.

I have a friend, a nuclear physicist, cursing constantly. I say I need a bridge across the Lena!
In response - cheaper to carry by helicopters!

From the network:
By 2018, the entire population of Russia was divided into the following separate social groups:
- oligarchs 187 people.
- corrupt officials 579 people.
- criminals suspected of calling for a change in the existing political system 138 people.

Class!))

[Serg koma]

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

Anyone who does not understand.

And some residents (for example, Oktyabrsky) did not understand - like this, across the road, in another region, another time ... And they demanded to move the clock hands, and on one side of the region / edge to one side, and on the other - completely in the opposite.
I don’t know about you, but I was frankly enraged by appeals to the president asking them to put a light in the street of N village ...
I am also for bridges and for roads, but I do not buy shoelaces first, and then boots.
Ask yourself - how many millions of people fall under the pension reform, and how many residents / tourists / business travelers / guests have used the bridge from the date of its commissioning * 50 years? How many pensions does the Sakhalin bridge cost, and what is the state debt of the Russian Federation?

[New Year day]

Quote: For example

Now we’ll come up with a bridge to Alaska and go down in history!

not a bad idea, you can quickly dump in America. It's only advisable to stomp through Magadan to Alaska

[NEOZ]

Quote: Silvestr

idea - you can quickly get to America

Do you dream of quickly dumping in America? to dump in America, you can use the plane!

[Leshy1975]

Do you hope that we will surrender and they, in our example, will defeat corruption? That is unlikely. Russians are one of the most persistent, our corrupt officials probably too. Against a Russian corrupt official, you need another Russian who will give a good kick to the first. While the truth is more the opposite.

[Vard]

You have not been to Singapore ... a fine of a thousand dollars for a thrown cigarette butt ... they know how to make a person be law-abiding ...

[New Year day]

Quote: Vard

You were not in Singapore ... a fine of a thousand dollars for an abandoned cigarette butt ..

in 1983 I was fined in Grodno for crossing the street in the wrong place by 1 ruble! I was shocked and am still moving where it should be. Thinking about personal security. So that order can and should be brought home

[NEOZ]

Quote: Silvestr

In 1983, I was fined in Grodno for crossing the street in the wrong place by 1 ruble!

how old were you in 1983?
on what basis were you fined? who fined you?

[prapor55]

In Singapore, a bribe is smeared with forehead for a bribe to an official, and in our country from 6 to 8 or as a daughter-in-law of DAM, they drove around the colony in a limousine and forgiven, she just wanted female happiness. Probably Rostec paid for their wedding? I think so?!

[reservist]

Quote: Vard

You were not in Singapore ... a fine of a thousand dollars for an abandoned cigarette butt ...

actually it’s already 800 local dollars, but it’s not too sick ...
and not always the local Indians and Malays it scares ...

[your1970]

Quote: Vard

You have not been to Singapore ... a fine of a thousand dollars for a thrown cigarette butt ... they know how to make a person be law-abiding ...

they have 1 policeman on 6 meters of street(average)

[PalBor]

Caution! One baron had already declared war on England. Remember how it ended? They fired from a cannon.

[Vladivostok1969]

And I propose declaring war on Singapore!

To give up right away?

[reservist]

will not work, they will fight until the last ...

[Zubr]

I agree ! Pour ...

[KLV2018]

shoot or expel from the country.
they are definitely foreign agents, since such banners were hung.
but there are still patriots in the country.

[lopvlad]

Quote: Vard

I propose declaring war on Singapore!

Well, after you declared war on common sense, you and any peaks are not afraid.

[Nonna]

The main goal of Putin’s government and its propagandists is that people don’t do anything against the government, and do not resent]

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Nonna

The main goal of Putin’s government and its propagandists is that people don’t do anything against the government, and do not resent]

Not true. The main goal of Putin’s power is to get as much as possible out of the country into his pockets. Everything is desirable. Well, so that no one would strain them with their indignation. This is how the sequence of goals will be more correct.

[AUL]

Quote: Leshy1975

Quote: Nonna

The main goal of Putin’s government and its propagandists is that people don’t do anything against the government, and do not resent]

Not true. The main goal of Putin’s power is to get as much as possible out of the country into his pockets. Everything is desirable. Well, so that no one would strain them with their indignation. This is how the sequence of goals will be more correct.

Yes, they put all sorts of indignation! They have the National Guard ready, if that. And every verbal indignation is completely violet to them. They will milk, milk and milk until there is something!

[yehat]

there is no money for retirement, but the rearmament and reinforcement of the Russian Guard are carried out in an emergency.

[gukoyan]

We will have a police state, as in Syria before the war ... Everything goes to this ....

[lopvlad]

Quote: gukoyan

like in Syria before the war

wrong. Since there had been a police state in Syria, there would have been no war.
Liberalism came to Syria and it can never without blood, requisitions and wars.
Liberalism came to Russia in the 90s and is still robbing, raping, sterilizing the population, removing children from families and making old people die in poverty.

[shark]

It sometimes seems to me that the main goal of this power is to ruin Russia. Well, it’s so shameless to steal, it’s just the edge .... I think even the most stubborn pro-Putin adherents (he himself) began to realize that something was wrong in the country .. .

[lopvlad]

Quote: shark

It sometimes seems to me that the main goal of this government is to ruin Russia.

their main goal is to plunder Russia and ensure that they are accepted in the West as equals, if the people rebel and drive out of here. And Russia will collapse or not.
They do not care about Russia as well as on the scrapie, which in words calls to preserve but in fact they themselves destroy.

[yehat]

one person stealing can get tired, and clans, organizations of hundreds and thousands of people are stealing from us
and these structures are insatiable.

[milling machine]

Do you want what would be like in Ukraine? Do not rock the boat. If the law is not passed, then NATO soldiers will march around Moscow and gay parades will be held tomorrow in Moscow. Putin would have told you, his mustachioed talker and all the stubborn ury patriots.

[lopvlad]

Quote: frezer

Putin would have told you, his mustachioed talker and all the stubborn ury patriots.

that’s the problem that there are no “stubborn Urya-patriots” in power, but some solid neoliberals with dough, a hole where he stores everything he’s stolen and kids over the hill.

[Altona]

The "pluralism of opinions" immediately ended as soon as the thieves asserted themselves in power. "New thinking" turned out to be a dense obscurantism, and "acceleration" the most powerful brake. "World Peace" also turned out to be a total and ongoing war. "Democracy", and "sovereign", in fact, is also such a procedure, where you have to choose from a galaxy of clowns who, who is not quite defiantly dressed up. About the Constitution, one can also say that it has become no better than toilet paper, at least any nobleman wants to wipe it and blame his diarrhea at the State Department.
PS Yaroslavl and Ulyanovsk fellows. And everyone who protests. And our government with wild propaganda is a shame! Its logic, coupled with stupid arguments "about not breaking the boat," says that we’ll starve you better than Americans.

[milling machine]

Quote: Altona

also

Countryman, hello. I wrote everything correctly. The whole ideology of the current government is to jam their population, while frightening external enemies (often invented).

[Tibidokh]

Quote: frezer

frightening at the same time external enemies (often invented).

Not invented at all! Our power is the external enemy ... they have money and children behind the hill.

[koksalek]

On April 1, 2019, there will be a bill according to which the income of officials and managers cannot be twice as high as the income of employees. Surpluses will be withdrawn in favor of the construction of bridges to Sakhalin, Alaska, Novaya Zemlya and Antarctica.
The activities of officials will be transparent and covered. Lighting will be pink-luminescent.

[Mihail55]

At 9 a.m. they were quickly removed. The headlines in the news were ... "provocative posters." The TRUTH has now become a provocation ???

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Michael55

At 9 a.m. they were quickly removed. The headlines in the news were ... "provocative posters." The TRUTH has now become a provocation ???

So far, yes, just a provocation. If this goes on, it will become a crime.

[Altona]

Quote: Leshy1975

Against Russian corruption is needed

----------------------------------
Count, stand on end, firing wall. Other remedies will not help.

[prapor55]

To remove a wall for the process of a shot costs money, in the country with them there is a strain to leave only a stake.

[Million]

Well done Yaroslavl!

[Miller]

I deeply respect the first woman of the astronaut. But in my opinion, it’s high time for her to retire, to take care of her great-grandchildren, and not to take a seat in the legislature.

[GRF]

She thinks of herself in order to work there, work and work ....

[private person]

Does it work for you? She just sitting on the priest earns exactly one month as much as a simple hard worker per year.

[Yaroslavl]

Posters hung on the tram tracks, on the passageway there was enough space ... they were removed by the police ... citizens were against it ... well ... Yaroslavl has always been a city of rebellion, and I really hope that we will at least offer decent resistance to the robbers and murderers who adopted this law in the first reading ... And what’s most interesting .. Mr. Osipov, a well-known in the city, "tough" businessman from the 90s, said yesterday that we should be happy about this law on the contrary ... we are fools so far we don’t understand all the benefits in the future ... well, Mr. Osipov, you know better)))

[Igoresha]

local oligarchs are still scum that in Yaroslavl in Vinnitsa
https://korrespondent.net/ukraine/politics/141908
7-v-vinnickoj-oblasti-proigravshij-kandidat-razru
shil-postroennuyu-k-vyboram-dorogu-izdanie

[asiat_61]

More taxes, good and tasty. Retirement age up to 80 years. Glory to the great Putin !!! I hope they have prepared a white conic.

[Servisinzhener]

Does anyone even know how these deputies voted? Judging by the results of 104 it was against. Or have they raked everyone in a broad sweep?

[Stirbjorn]

All parties, except edrosov, voted against + 1 Poklonskaya

[dauria]

Does anyone even know how these deputies voted?

The official roll call list is here. For only all edros, except Poklonskaya, the rest of the party and non-systemic are opposite.
http://vote.duma.gov.ru/vote/104876

[Igoresha]

“Before us is a modern rehash of the idea, which in Dostoevsky’s Possesses is called“ releasing Ivan Tsarevich. ”That is, a certain person who is related to the authorities, but thinks about the people. What is meant to show that“ the truth exists, and it exists in the state, but it just cannot win today. "

https://bantaputu.livejournal.com/389943.html

[Altona]

Quote: Miller

I deeply respect the first woman of the astronaut. But in my opinion, it’s high time for her to retire, to take care of her great-grandchildren, and not to take a seat in the legislature.

--------------------------
I do not respect her at all, as well as the monarchist-cosmonaut Leonov. All her life she has been PR, they once arranged a "space wedding" with Andrian Nikolayev. Then she climbed into the Duma, already publicizing United Russia.

[Zubr]

Frankly, this theater of absurdity with EP is already tired. I am here with one comrade, of a clear orientation to the EP (but swearing that it’s not a party), obviously a tax worker on individuals. very tightly discussed the topic of the referendum on the pension charade. You won’t believe it, but he proposed a tax on "parasitism" ...

[Loess]

Quote: Zubr

Frankly, this theater of absurdity with EP is already tired. I am here with one comrade, of a clear orientation to the EP (but swearing that it’s not a party), obviously a tax worker on individuals. very tightly discussed the topic of the referendum on the pension charade. You won’t believe it, but he proposed a tax on "parasitism" ...

Firstly, the comrade did not swear, but simply said what is in reality. Secondly, a friend is not from the tax. Thirdly, everything else more or less corresponds to the truth.

[Zubr]

And still, I do not agree with your proposal, but because after 50 years it is very difficult to find a job. Accordingly, all this mass of people conditionally falls into this category. Do you understand what you are pushing people to? And earnings in this category are extremely unstable. It is necessary to expand the labor market and salary in the private sector to make everything white. There really need to be very serious steps to develop small industries and create jobs, rather than punitive measures ..

[Loess]

Quote: Zubr

because after 50 years it’s very difficult to find a job.

As a rule, most people by this age are in that workplace, which they quietly work on until retirement. So I think this argument is not entirely appropriate. For if you have remained in 50 years without work, then I don’t think that there is a big difference in 60 years, you will be paid a pension or 65, if only because in 50 years the prospect of living 10 years without money is hardly much worse than living without money 15 years. I hope you understand what I'm talking about?

And earnings in this category are extremely unstable.

I allow myself to note that people have been living on extremely unstable earnings for decades and are not feeling very bad. And I know such people. And for many, this unstable income is higher all year round than my salary.

Quote: Zubr

It is necessary to expand the labor market and salary in the private sector to make everything white. There really need to be very serious steps to develop small industries and create jobs

Am I against these offers? I am completely and completely in favor.

Quote: Zubr

And not punitive measures ..

The carrot and stick method has been justified for centuries. And the stick will always be worse than the gingerbread, if only because the stick is here and now, and the stick is always later, in the "bright future".

[Zubr]

As a rule, most people by this age are in that workplace, on

which quietly finalized to retirement. So I think this argument is not entirely appropriate. For if you have remained in 50 years without work, then I don’t think that there is a big difference in 60 years, you will be paid a pension or 65, if only because in 50 years the prospect of living 10 years without money is hardly much worse than living without money 15 years. I hope you understand what I'm talking about?

I understand perfectly.
I'm afraid that you are very far from realities. As they say in Odessa: "Schaub you lived like that" ..

I allow myself to note that people have been living on extremely unstable earnings for decades and are not feeling very bad. And I know such people. And for many, this unstable income is higher all year round than my salary.

Someone is very good at working with their hands and they like it and wish them the same in the future, people survive, and not from a good life, but this is 30% of the rural population, with a salary of 5-7 thousand by region.

The carrot and stick method has been justified for centuries. And the stick will always be worse than the gingerbread, if only because the stick is here and now, and the stick is always later, in the "bright future".

Vooot all officials think so, so apply the whip in relation to existing corporations, business, but no .... how is it that they will judge smart! They will also receive compensation, and you will pay legal costs. Enough we heard about your gingerbread since 1991 year.
And be careful with the whip. he can walk on your back.

[Loess]

Quote: Zubr

Someone is very good at working with their hands and they like it and wish them the same in the future,

I completely agree with you, but it would not be bad if they did not forget to pay taxes. Still, there is a strong feeling that you support tax evasion ... Maybe you don’t see the connection between tax collection and social security?

and this is 30% of the rural population, with a salary of 5-7 thousand by region.

Yes, there are such salaries in the countryside, maybe 30%, I won’t argue ... But the village, under any government, lived worse than the city, that’s insulting ... That's why the youth are fleeing from there. But just in the countryside, people of pre-retirement age are almost always given the opportunity to quietly work out until retirement, there would be a desire ...

Quote: Zubr

all officials think so, apply the whip to existing corporations, businesses,

I could have applied it, but the trouble is - I’m not an official ... and not even a civil servant ...

Quote: Zubr

Enough we heard about your gingerbread since 1991 year.

Since 91, this is not much, they have been talking about communism since 17 ... And they forbade indignation ... But now it’s expanse - resent how much you fit ...

Quote: Zubr

And be careful with the whip. he can walk on your back.

Do you philosophize?

[reservist]

Quote: Less

if you were left without work at 50, then I don’t think ...

so for starters, stay out of work after 50 ...
recently reduced a friend, she is 53 ... under the new law, the pension will not be in 2, but in 4 years ... well, after all, there’s no difference ...

[Loess]

Quote: reservist

recently cut a friend, her 53

Is this a mass phenomenon?

Quote: reservist

according to the new law, the pension will not be through 2, but through 4 of the year ... well, after all, there’s no difference ...

In spring, the mother-in-law was left without work ... under the new law 6 years until retirement ... Within two months I found work, but managed to refuse two vacancies ... Gorodishko of regional significance, the population is about 10 thousand people ... And before that, the neighbor was left without work, at 2008, and basically didn’t get a new job, he didn’t want to and that’s all, although he had enough opportunities, both lived with his wife’s retirement, and the children helped, until last December retired did not go out.

[reservist]

the phenomenon is not to say mass, but widespread ...
the mother-in-law for no reason just refused two vacancies? probably the proposed conditions did not "inspire" her ...
it’s not difficult to find a job, only the salary at that job will most likely be similar to a future pension ...

[Loess]

Quote: reservist

mother-in-law probably for a reason refused two vacancies?

Not so easy. But on the second, then the next day she called to clarify the conditions, she was specified, but at the same time the vacancy had already "left" ... Mother-in-law then lamented ...

Quote: reservist

it’s not difficult to find a job, only the salary at that job will most likely be similar to a future pension ..

I agree with that. But this does not negate the fact that work can be found, just the usual way of life is changing. What is sad is that it usually does not change for the better.

[reservist]

Well, yes, in the same direction, with a small salary and a pension count the same small ...

[BAI]

Yes, we are still far from France, where the government is demolished for stupid laws. Or recently the government was demolished somewhere for the idea of ​​raising gas prices. This is democracy!

[rotmistr60]

Goblin 1975
what is this for, on Sakhalin

Before you write a gag, you would ask the residents of Sakhalin whether they need a bridge or not. Have you ever been to the island? Or is it easier to state a “protest” without understanding the situation?

[Leshy1975]

Quote: rotmistr60

Goblin 1975
what is this for, on Sakhalin

Before you write a gag, you would ask the residents of Sakhalin whether they need a bridge or not. Have you ever been to the island? Or is it easier to state a “protest” without understanding the situation?

Well, if you have already figured out the situation, and you know for sure that the most necessary project in the country today is a bridge to Sakhalin. That's just about the residents do not need to push. Since in the first survey of these you have not yet had time to conduct. And the residents themselves on this issue even here on the site spoke out quite ambiguously. Secondly, if we go this route and conduct a survey in each region, then in each the problem will be its most important. Therefore, I suggest that you nevertheless share your opinion that Russian Railways will transport round-trip, so that this would make economic sense. And if for the sake of building, then probably a more automobile bridge would be needed. You say there are no roads, so there are no goods. I look forward to your opinion, as I figured out what the economic effect will be and how much it should pay off.

[rotmistr60]

I think that even this from today's article will be enough

Now most of the cargo from the island and the island is sent by sea. In the case of the rampant of the elements, Sakhalin can expect weeks to send these goods to the mainland (from the mainland), which causes a significant blow to the economy not only of Sakhalin itself, but also of the entire Far East.

In addition, the payback is calculated even before the creation of the project. If the project is not economically profitable, then it is not worth it to develop.

[Litvinov]

I'm not quite sure that this applies to the government of the Russian Federation. For the current leadership, a project is profitable if its budget can be inflated and cut!

[Igoresha]

under Stalin, another thousand people were destroyed, it’s better to let the money cut

[Leshy1975]

Quote: rotmistr60

I think that even this from today's article will be enough

Now most of the cargo from the island and the island is sent by sea. In the case of the rampant of the elements, Sakhalin can expect weeks to send these goods to the mainland (from the mainland), which causes a significant blow to the economy not only of Sakhalin itself, but also of the entire Far East.

In addition, the payback is calculated even before the creation of the project. If the project is not economically profitable, then it is not worth it to develop.

"If the project is not economically profitable, then it is not worth it to develop."
And with stadiums then how did it happen? Cost effective?
(source actpolit.info):
In Mordovia, one of the most credited regions of Russia, the planned cost of maintaining a stadium in Saransk will be 200-300 million rubles a year, said the Minister of Economy, Trade and Entrepreneurship of the region Vladimir Mazov.

Or (source Free Press):
“At the same time, about 300 million rubles a year are needed to service the Volgograd Arena.
It’s not very clear where the Volgograd region’s budget will get the money from, even after five years. Now in the budget of the region there is a gap of a billion rubles with a tail. And it is assumed that the Volgograd Arena will go to the balance of the Volgograd region in 2019. "

[Larum]

And they shouted: Russians do not abandon their own, choose Putin, Russia gets up off its knees, we will beat all the daggers, we are in 7th place in terms of GDP ...

And now you’re in the Duma, and in the Russian Space Agency searches, supposedly the truth about unsuccessful launches Daggers leaked, and the GDP is already much lower ....

[private person]

Quote: gukoyan

We will have a police state, as in Syria before the war ... Everything goes to this ....

And now, isn’t we a police state? "Rosguard" for this was created to shut up their mouths at rallies.

[Royalist]

Quote: RASKAT

People, calm down, take care of your nerves. All the same, this law is dragged. In the country of capitalism, when did capitalism care about people?

So far, only the first hearing, and there, some changes and additions are possible

[maykl8]

These banners hung on the tramway for several hours. Then vigilant citizens reported them, “where necessary,” and posters, expressing the reaction of the populationtaken off.

The reaction of layering to prevent raising the retirement age should be - 5 children per family.

[Vadim237]

Do not pull - because half do not want to work.

[maykl8]

Quote: Vadim237

Do not pull - because half do not want to work.

Maybe they want but not dusty. And so 5 children do not raise. Need obsessive propaganda of baby-boom and at the same time a healthy lifestyle.

[Dashout]

Natalia Poklonskaya Respect! Well done Natasha !!!

[Royalist]

Quote: Miller

I deeply respect the first woman of the astronaut. But in my opinion, it’s high time for her to retire, to take care of her great-grandchildren, and not to take a seat in the legislature.

Tereshkova-vane: if the Communists become the ruling party tomorrow, it will overheat and will be in the front ranks of the Communist Party: "I have been and still are Communists, but temporary difficulties + wheatgrass tours." Fulfilled the task of Leonid Ilyich or some other looking. 2/3 ERikov were in the Communist Party and Komsomol and will easily forget EP as a used condom

[Igoresha]

Tereshkova under the communists led the union of Soviet women, or something like that, in a conversation she heard by chance, the woman told her, moved her apartment under the USSR, wrote to Tereshkova and she helped

[Ivan Ivanov]

But now the bourgeois fulfills remarkably

[Ivan Ivanov]

The girl has long ceased to be an astronaut of the USSR, only one image remained, on the whole good posters, I wonder how many DAM and the Guarantor would hang out, where they belong first of all.

[Litvinov]

I think that very soon the Tereshkov-Kobzons-Valuevs will intelligibly and clearly explain the delights of the pension reform.

[maykl8]

Quote: Litvinov

I think that very soon the Tereshkov-Kobzons-Valuevs will intelligibly and clearly explain the delights of the pension reform.

Retirement age in Germany is 67 years. The richest country in Europe. Quit plump and smoke, go in for sports and everything will be OK.

[Litvinov]

"Quit plump and smoke, go in for sports and everything will be OK."

And is that all that is needed for the Russian Federation to become the richest country in Eurasia? Do you understand what you're talking about? But what about state revenue from excise taxes on alcohol and tobacco?


"The retirement age in Germany is 67 years. The richest country in Europe."

“Russia submits data to the WTO and the UN like every country. Russia sells a large amount of oil to Germany. In 2015, oil was sold for 9,6 billion dollars. According to Germany, the WTO and the UN - Germany bought oil at 27,6 billion dollars. According to the Federal Customs Service, Russia sold oil for 3 billion, and according to the US, they bought oil for 9 billion. In total, 2015 trillion rubles were not paid to the Russian budget in 16. That is, we have a budget of 13,5 trillion rubles, but 16 trillion were not paid "
https://politeka.net/news/509013-putin-ta-jogo-sv
ita-obikrali-rosiyan-na-16-triljoniv /
--------------
I read other tales ...

[maykl8]

And is that all that is needed for the Russian Federation to become the richest country in Eurasia? Do you understand what you're talking about? But what about state revenue from excise taxes on alcohol and tobacco?

Pay off by reducing subsidies to the pension fund.

And do not read Soviet newspapers .....

[Litvinov]

So there are no others, Philip Filippych!

[maykl8]

Quote: Litvinov

So there are no others, Philip Filippych!

Do not read any! ))) We are all from there. We want not to sacrifice anything or whatever it is. "Either smart or beautiful." (FROM)

[Leshy1975]

Quote: maykl8

Quote: Litvinov

I think that very soon the Tereshkov-Kobzons-Valuevs will intelligibly and clearly explain the delights of the pension reform.

Retirement age in Germany is 67 years. The richest country in Europe. Quit plump and smoke, go in for sports and everything will be OK.

I personally do not drink, I do not drink at all, I do not smoke, I go in for sports. And the further, the more it becomes not OK. Any other ideas?

[maykl8]

I personally do not drink, I do not drink at all, I do not smoke, I go in for sports. And the further, the more it becomes not OK. Any other ideas?

Change occupation. Open a newspaper with vacancies, choose a salary that you like, study for this position, get a job, get a salary that you like. We don’t need to sit there!

[Leshy1975]

Quote: maykl8

I personally do not drink, I do not drink at all, I do not smoke, I go in for sports. And the further, the more it becomes not OK. Any other ideas?

Change occupation. Open a newspaper with vacancies, choose a salary that you like, study for this position, get a job, get a salary that you like. We don’t need to sit there!

"We don’t need to sit there!"
Will this only help in my case? (I haven’t been on vacation for THREE years already). Or is it a universal method of solving economic problems throughout the state? Because, if such advice does not help the bulk of the country, then this is not real advice at all, but ordinary stupidity and demagogy on a national scale. From the category, "there is no money, but you hold on," or even from the same row according to Medvedev if there is no money, "go to business." Well, I’ve been in small business all my life, it’s money here, and small business (not only me personally) is simply suffocating from money. Are you sure you are not colleagues with DAM? And then the approach to solving problems is suspiciously similar.

[maykl8]

And then the approach to solving problems is suspiciously similar.

Approach as an approach. It has always been so. Mammoths ended, they began to eat vegetables. Water left the river, went and conquered the meadow from another river. Need a "window to Europe - built St. Petersburg." This business is disadvantageous - they transferred money to another. It is necessary to adapt to the realities, and not whining while rocking the boat. And then we want to live, we want both in the EU with rest in a foreign country, we want a wheelbarrow - we want a foreign car, all for our beloved. But we do not want to give birth and raise children, and we also do not want to retire as in the EU. "either smart or beautiful." (C)

[Leshy1975]

Quote: maykl8

And then the approach to solving problems is suspiciously similar.

Approach as an approach. It has always been so. Mammoths ended, they began to eat vegetables. Water left the river, went and conquered the meadow from another river. Need a "window to Europe - built St. Petersburg." This business is disadvantageous - they transferred money to another. It is necessary to adapt to the realities, and not whining while rocking the boat. And then we want to live, we want both in the EU with rest in a foreign country, we want a wheelbarrow - we want a foreign car, all for our beloved. But we do not want to give birth and raise children, and we also do not want to retire as in the EU. "either smart or beautiful." (C)

"rather than whining while rocking the boat." What, again, according to the old training manual? Well, if you please. The answers to such an “iron” argument were interesting several months ago, and there is no desire or sense to crush the same months for the Zaputin.
Moreover, to argue with the arguments of universal stupidity "This is disadvantageous business - transferred money to another," not in the sense that you do not need to transfer. And just take an interest in how this same business lives in the bulk. And where the bulk must be transferred. Indeed, business complains and hard workers complain and pensioners complain. So maybe then I can give you advice, which is also very simple, but more effective. Take DAM, call GDP and collectively transfer to another country. And we will somehow survive without you. You look and "whining" in the country will become smaller and the boat will not swing.

[Dali]

Well, you .... maykl8 ... hedgehogs ... and a wise guy ...

Quote: maykl8

Approach as an approach. It has always been so. Mammoths ended, they began to eat vegetables. Water left the river, went and conquered the meadow from another river. Need a "window to Europe - built St. Petersburg." This business is disadvantageous - they transferred money to another. ...

Imagine a turner, or a doctor, or anyone who is engaged in agriculture in the Volga region (didn’t they forget this risky farming zone) ... and what else can people do even after forty so that they can live no worse?

And to speak to these people about "This business is disadvantageous - they transferred money to another" - at all on the verge of provocation ...

And now count how many people in Russia can live like that ?! Maybe you’ll send a turner to do business, it’s interesting that we have a lot of hard workers (engineers, by the way) ... oh yes, you will send teachers to the business, of course, for which educated people ...

And so only “buy-sell anything, anytime and anyone” can really live, and effective managers who can manage anything efficiently by directing resources to their pocket ...

In short, you are a demagogue and provocateur ...

[lopvlad]

Quote: maykl8

Retirement age in Germany is 67 years.

But in Germany, an analogue of the Russian 90s was, a change of order, one and a half decades of poverty, the absence of medicine for hundreds of kilometers, the depreciation of all savings twice in decades, the absence of a salary of two years? . But over the years, a folk cake (bread sprinkled with sugar and sprinkled with water) was given to children for years instead of sweets and chocolates?
And remember that human health is formed in childhood and, for example, senile osteoporosis (brittle bones) is a sign that you lived poorly and half-starving in childhood (a set of peak bone strength occurs in childhood).

Quote: maykl8

The richest country in Europe.

the richest country in Europe does not automatically equal the richest Russian people. It's all about the distribution of wealth. The Russian Empire in 1913 was almost the richest in the world and the population was the poorest.
So now. Naked people in loans and debts and snickering power.

[maykl8]

All is correct. For a breakthrough, you need to mobilize and focus on the direction of the main efforts. Make a plan and stupidly carry it out. So actually in 1945, Berlin and took.
China also became the first economic power. Retirement age 65 years.

[lopvlad]

Quote: maykl8

Retirement age 65 years.

The retirement age in China is 60 years for men and 55 years for women. Women in manual labor have the right to retire at age 50. So lying is unnecessary.

[maykl8]

Well, they increase it like ours.
https://newizv.ru/news/society/24-06-2018/kitaysk
iy-opyt-reform-pensii-tam-est-hotya-i-ne-u-vseh
Some pensioners do not receive pensions at all. Children feed.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: maykl8

Well, they increase it like ours.
https://newizv.ru/news/society/24-06-2018/kitaysk
iy-opyt-reform-pensii-tam-est-hotya-i-ne-u-vseh
Some pensioners do not receive pensions at all. Children feed.

Those. in China are on the path to creating state social services. guarantees, as really didn’t exist before. We were originally (a legacy of the USSR) having state. social guarantees go the way of refusing them. And in your opinion we are moving with China in one direction ?! Just give China as an example. Bravo!

[lopvlad]

Quote: maykl8

Well, they increase it like ours.

while they only think about this and we have already decided everything.

Quote: maykl8

Some pensioners do not receive pensions at all. Children feed.

they have a real average salary of 60 thousand and we have 30 thousand. They are one and a half billion on a relatively small piece of land without oil, gas, diamonds. Indeed, they even have a shortage of water reserves. And we have only 140 million and there are so many resources in general could not work.

Some of the pensioners do not receive pensions from them, since the pension system is in the process of formation. You know that in the USSR everyone began to pay pensions en masse in the late 70s. My great-grandmother didn’t receive a penny from the Soviet state and worked all her life until her death. , earning income only from the sale of products of their personal households (in modern Russia, they certainly would not have survived from the requisitions of the tax authorities and others .....).

[Leshy1975]

Quote: maykl8

All is correct. For a breakthrough, you need to mobilize and focus on the direction of the main efforts. Make a plan and stupidly carry it out. So actually in 1945, Berlin and took.
China also became the first economic power. Retirement age 65 years.

For what a fix breakthrough ?! The president is the same, the chairman of the government too, the bulk of senior officials is the same as for many years in a row! Who will draw up some kind of plan (most likely they will smoke it), if they could not do this in almost 20 years! Where is the development of the country according to previous "plans" ?!

[Qwertyarion]

Quote: ibn.shamai

So our managers constantly brag about how much they sold gas and oil, weapons, grain, etc.! Money is flowing straight into the river! But retired is still not enough! Where is the logic? Lied, nowhere else !!!

Yes, it's just a substitution of concepts! Big sales of some commerce are issued as achievements of society.
And the achievements of society are not so much how the businessman Tolstosumov sold for a tuber of grain (having paid tractor workers as much as three thousand rubles), the achievements of society are new jobs, decent salaries, new hospitals and schools (not in regional centers, but on the periphery), affordable education, new roads, new enterprises in small towns, working for three pennies, agriculture, really working unions, high birth rates and decent pensions!

[_Ugene_]

As already noted here, there was one man among the United Russia party - Natalya Poklonskaya

[lopvlad]

Then vigilant citizens reported them, "where necessary," and removed posters expressing the reaction of the population.

Well, for 26 years in Russia, several generations of khalui serving power have been raised, and those who have a dad and mom in power are robbing people.
Only now, to the misfortune of the authorities, it is impossible to legitimize the raising of the retirement age, despite the propaganda from every iron not even connected among the people.
The Russian people, under the Tatar-Mongol yoke for 300 years, was and in spite of this, so free man and remained, outliving these enslavers.

[Litvinov]

Good memory to Mikhail Nikolaevich ... It may be good that he does not see today's robbery.

[maykl8]

Zadornov was good, but the clown and clown did not bear any responsibility for the state and his words.

[lopvlad]

Quote: maykl8

but the clown and clown does not bear any responsibility for the state and his words.

well, he doesn’t have to. But the title of a jester from ancient times provided almost the only opportunity to tell the truth about power, the jesters at court were some of the smartest people.

[Litvinov]

There are more than enough irresponsible clowns in our government!

[lopvlad]

Quote: Litvinov

irresponsible clowns

a clown and a clown are two completely different things.

[lopvlad]

Quote: frezer

Do not rock the boat

the boat is already rocked by the latest bills and being silent in the rocked boat means it is guaranteed and inevitable to be thrown out of it first.

[maykl8]

Quote: lopvlad

the boat is already rocked by the latest bills and being silent in the rocked boat means it is guaranteed and inevitable to be thrown out of it first.

Swinging boats usually drown with idiots pumping her. Russian Empire, USSR, Yugoslavia ... Ukraine now ....

[lopvlad]

Quote: maykl8

Swinging boats usually drown with idiots pumping her.

I’m glad that you understand what kind of people today's Russian and not only Russian authorities consist of. They all start to rock the boat in the hope of throwing people out of there so that they don’t share anything with him at all and themselves are thrown out nafig.
Yes, and I think many others do not care about the well-being of the authorities if they throw us out of the boat to certain death and poverty.

[Non liberoid Russian]

and then someone guessed to hang out in the sleeping area .. just before the morning rush hour, when everyone rushed to work ... many saw them, including me

[Igoresha]

provocateurs posted)))

[GUSAR]

Obama came, or Trump how is it now?

[gukoyan]

They took off ... Well, apparently they interfered with someone ...
That's just interesting, what kind of citizens are these who are satisfied with the regime, who informed where they should be?
Apparently the brain is dried away, well, or the sect of those who say that we need to bear children for 7 months ...
Although nonsense, apparently officials and reported ...

[DeusExMachina]

But why? There is a certain% of people who receive (not sure if it is possible to use the word "Earn" here?) Good money. And jeans and Coca-Cola of the brain did the rest.

[Private SA]

The vile government, the vile ruling party and, accordingly, the methods are the same.
Edro should sink into oblivion and the sooner the better .....

[Z_G_R]

The name of the city is good. Yaroslavl ... wise, correct.

[The Sparkle]

Quote: Leshy1975

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

Anyone who does not understand. why do I need a bridge, I want to live in an area where there are no roads and need to be ferried. Then it will be possible to discuss the need for bridges.

Why do we need bridges? Everyone understands. But for what this, on Sakhalin, is not. There is neither a large population, nor an economy of the required volume. And aquatic biological resources in the sea are obtained by ships and transported by ships to processing sites. How such a project pays off in this case is not at all clear.

For the economy to develop - you need production, mining, processing, etc.!

To develop something on Sakhalin, bring equipment, etc. - need roads!
To take out the manufactured product - you need roads!
The people living there - they want an easier way to the mainland - they need roads.
Well, a bridge for this is not needed at all, let them sail on ferries and cross the ice?

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Flame

Quote: Leshy1975

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

Anyone who does not understand. why do I need a bridge, I want to live in an area where there are no roads and need to be ferried. Then it will be possible to discuss the need for bridges.

Why do we need bridges? Everyone understands. But for what this, on Sakhalin, is not. There is neither a large population, nor an economy of the required volume. And aquatic biological resources in the sea are obtained by ships and transported by ships to processing sites. How such a project pays off in this case is not at all clear.

For the economy to develop - you need production, mining, processing, etc.!

To develop something on Sakhalin, bring equipment, etc. - need roads!
To take out the manufactured product - you need roads!
The people living there - they want an easier way to the mainland - they need roads.
Well, a bridge for this is not needed at all, let them sail on ferries and cross the ice?

If such a mega-fix pays off, then let them do it! If there is extra money in the state, then of course they do not care about the economy, let them do it! What you wrote is pure slogans applicable anywhere. And as slogans I share them. Specifically here. Show the extra money. Or indicate what kind of production and what you will develop on Sakhalin, what you need to build, after all, not just a bridge, but a really mega project. Or you really don’t understand that at the same time the country will not be able to pull anything else, maybe even more cost-effective. If you think you can pull a few projects, name the source of the money. Do not refer to the government and budget, they are NOT there. Already, in fact, otherwise it would not be such a panic on the ship and the search for any sources of income. Even socially explosive, like a penny. reform and VAT. And also for understanding the economy. Russian Railways last year: In the Voronezh region, the problem of delays in transporting record crops to ports has become more acute. As it was announced at a meeting in the regional government, only 4086 of the requested 2265 railcars requested by Voronezh exporters since the beginning of October were allocated, but actually much less, Kommersant reports. By the end of the year, the Voronezh region plans to export 670 thousand tons of grain: 250 thousand tons in October, 220 thousand tons in November and 200 thousand tons in December. Do you think that the bridge is now more economically important (write down what you will regularly transport), and there are no wagons to transport existing crops? And the residents of Sakhalin wrote that now even the port is idle, there is no cargo flow.

[Qwertyarion]

Quote: Igoresha

We have before us a modern rehash of the idea, which in Dostoevsky’s Possessed is called "releasing Ivan Tsarevich." That is, a certain person who is related to power, but thinks about the people. That is intended to show that "the truth exists, and it exists in the state, but it just cannot win today."

Yes, I agree, we are facing a serious drama theater with good directing, and not some kind of fun and resourceful club there. They scratch the ears of the people and don’t even smile, but as they say according to Stanslavsky “I don’t believe”.

[Mihail55]

Zheleznyak, it seems, resigned from his post (resigned) ... The ice has broken ????

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Michael55

Zheleznyak, it seems, resigned from his post (resigned) ... The ice has broken ????

rather, they remove the weak links. Apparently it began to come that they could really run into popular protest in the broadest sense. That is removed in advance unreliable.

[Radical]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: Black

.. While I am president, I will not like raising the retirement age in Russia .....

amputation with gangrene does not like the current, the question is whether

And who has gangrene?

[23424636]

Well done Yaroslavl, this booth of Dimon and his boys bad guys must be dispersed in the next election. One wonder why the GDP is kept by this Yeltsin covetous, doesn’t he understand that Russia needs to go its own way and not the one dictated by the IMF or the Masonic lodge. Here was such a kid, Kiriyenko (Israel), who headed the default of 35 at the age of 98, who plunged the country to the bottom how many people went into the world because of the hopelessness of poverty and unpaid foreign currency debts, who was charmed by the cops of Mavrodi, a genius of pure beauty. And what, where is he ?! GDP has a deputy presidential administration. One hope is that Stoics like Natasha will withstand this fierce howl and save the face of Russia for future generations

[Radical]

Quote: Flame

Quote: Leshy1975

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

Anyone who does not understand. why do I need a bridge, I want to live in an area where there are no roads and need to be ferried. Then it will be possible to discuss the need for bridges.

Why do we need bridges? Everyone understands. But for what this, on Sakhalin, is not. There is neither a large population, nor an economy of the required volume. And aquatic biological resources in the sea are obtained by ships and transported by ships to processing sites. How such a project pays off in this case is not at all clear.

For the economy to develop - you need production, mining, processing, etc.!

To develop something on Sakhalin, bring equipment, etc. - need roads!
To take out the manufactured product - you need roads!
The people living there - they want an easier way to the mainland - they need roads.
Well, a bridge for this is not needed at all, let them sail on ferries and cross the ice?

From a military point of view, a tunnel is better. However, if a decision was made to build a bridge, that means ... The guarantor is sure that the Russian Federation will not fight with anyone during his "reign"! And where did he get such confidence ....?

[cradle]

do you have other information?

[Radical]

Quote: maykl8

I personally do not drink, I do not drink at all, I do not smoke, I go in for sports. And the further, the more it becomes not OK. Any other ideas?

Change occupation. Open a newspaper with vacancies, choose a salary that you like, study for this position, get a job, get a salary that you like. We don’t need to sit there!

I like the “salary” of I. Sechin, I opened the newspaper. and there is no vacancy for his position! What to do? Can you tell me?

[cast iron]

EDROSovsky bots I will not prompt you. Calm down)))) They are social Darwinists - they will advise bredyatin, and then they will bark again - they say he himself)))))

[Zomanus]

Eh, they rocked the country. Apparently specially for taking certain measures.

[bmv04636]

I would like to ask members of the forum who for example does not have a washing machine in the household.

[Dagon]

As an example, in the United States worked 40 quarters, you can already receive a certain pension, then the person decides to work or not ...

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: Leshy1975

Generally the contents of stadiums are hung up on regional budgets

in fact, only after five years

Not five years later: the head of the committee for the preparation and holding of the World Cup in the Volgograd Region Arkady Grushko noted that the stadium should be transferred to the balance of the region next year. This means that the costs of its maintenance will fall on the shoulders of the local budget. According to preliminary data, the amount of expenses per year will be equal to 250-350 million rubles.
- The exact figure is still difficult to name, the stadium was opened this spring and has not worked yet another year. But the Volgograd Arena was included in the federal Heritage program and until 2019 its owner, FSUE Sport Engineering, will be servicing the facility. Then it will be given into the ownership of the region, ”the official noted.

[Mentat]

These are not protest posters, these are provocative posters.
Interestingly, that come * rock, I will write in plain text, which used the photo of Gagarin to express his dissatisfaction, was thinking about something at all or did not think about anything?
Further, just write opposite the person “shame”, “d * beat”, “fagot”, etc. - This is not a protest, but a banal insult.
Clearly you need to express your position.

[senima56]

I can reassure you a little, in the photo not V. Gagarin, but V. Tereshkova.

[reservist]

Is it Gagarin?

Quote: Mentat

Further, simply writing “shame” in front of a person ... is not a protest, but a banal insult.

and men don’t know ...

[senima56]

Here's what's interesting: in the Duma they say that "more than 60 from the regions support the pension reform proposed by the government ..." And after a few days the president himself says that "he and no one in the government like the pension reform ...." Strange and contradictory. Who is lying ?!

[Voxr]

There is a chance, with this pension reform, to shake Russia to troubles .. But only pensioners will again be left with a trough (who worked for the power of the USSR) now they will spread rot and humiliate them ..
The librarian raised its head .. well, well!
They do not care about pensioners (like Chubais), they want to redistribute the property and assets of the country .. Russia then rose and not bad!

[Comrade Kim]

Quote: RASKAT

People, calm down, take care of your nerves. All the same, this law is dragged. In the country of capitalism, when did capitalism care about people?

Let's see what GDP says:

[Voenoboz]

We are big critics. There’s nothing more to say.

[Mentat]

Quote: senima56

I can reassure you a little, in the photo not V. Gagarin, but V. Tereshkova.

Has this changed anything dramatically for you?
And just in case, I would find out who it is and why it is. The clumsiness of execution borders on a deliberate throw-in.

[cast iron]

Let me explain. Valentina Tereshkova is a member of EDR. And because all EDROSites except Natalya Poklonskaya spoke in favor of raising the retirement age, then Valentina Tereshkova also took part in the foul vote. Accordingly, the SHAME VALENTINE TERESHKOVAYA!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

cast iron,
cast iron,

Quote: cast iron

Т.е. ты сам себя в 5 утра идешь кормить? Бот ЕДРОСовский.

вы бы для начала представились коль такой смелый

[cast iron]

Владимир Иванович, мне с вами неприятно общаться. Вы, как поборник социал-дарвинизма и олигархического упырьского капитализма, находитесь со мной по разные стороны баррикад. У нас с вами - классовая ненависть. Вас такое ответ устроит, Владимир Иванович?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: cast iron

Вы, как поборник социал-дарвинизма и олигархического упырьского капитализма, находитесь со мной по разные стороны баррикад.

мало того что вы хам, так еще и не очень образованный хам, вы хоть где-то в моих высказывание доказательство ваших утверждений в мой адрес найти сможете?

Quote: cast iron

У нас с вами - классовая ненависть. Вас такое ответ устроит, Владимир Иванович?

а вы к какому классу относите себя и к какому меня?!!

[cast iron]

Судя по тому, как Вы усиленно защищаете антинародные действия олигархического капиталистического правительства, рискну предположить, что вы либо мелко буржуазный элемент и в этом случае с вами все ясно, либо вы - пролетарий, которому хватает и того корыта, которое есть. В любом случае вы очень активно топите за олигархов и за пнсионную реформу. Причем сами вы уже на пенсию, я так понимаю, вышли. Очень ироничная ситуация.

[Dzafdet]

Quote: RASKAT

People, calm down, take care of your nerves. All the same, this law is dragged. In the country of capitalism, when did capitalism care about people?

+100500! Именно так , и никак иначе. Дальше будет только хуже..

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Tibidokh,

Quote: Tibidokh

протестные движения в Сергиевом Посаде против мусорного терроризма

funny



и вы будете утверждать, что не было тех кто ОРГАНИЗОВАЛ протестные движение?!!!

[cradle]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: notingem

Go outside and dawdle

I don’t know, on our site in general rudeness has become normal ?! did we drink Brudershaft or graze sheep together ?! what are you poking me? !!!

Quote: notingem

Better hours at 8 am on the subway when hard workers go

I get up at 5 and go feed the cattle

А что ВАС много?

[cradle]

Vasilenko Vladimir,
а выкать с чего я должен?

[cradle]

Quote: your1970

Quote: MPN

the idea of ​​raising the retirement age for men and women at 5 and 8 years, respectively, was supported by 328 deputies of the State Duma of the Russian Federation

time spent already in stadiums, then it doesn’t help already KNOWLEDGE that they shoot show??

Чтоб не забывали то что знают....освежить память

[cradle]

Vasilenko Vladimir,
А должны быть волнения по голосованию за трусы и балетки? Отвечу- нет. Это не задевает большинство. Поэтому не удачный пример

[Mentat]

Quote: cast iron

ПОЗОР ВАЛЕНТИНЕ ТЕРЕШКОВОЙ!

Ты сначала сделай для страны столько, сколько она, потом будешь кричать что-то, горлопан дешёвый.
Человек может что-то не так сделать, может ошибиться. А может принять верное решение на основе предоставленных выкладок.
Уверен, что это не ты ошибаешься? А кричишь позор такому человеку. Надо разобраться сначала. ТЫ РАЗОБРАЛСЯ?
Даже если не согласен, разобрался, шапку сними перед ней, а потом головой покачай и скажи: «Не правы вы, Валентина Владимировна, не правы, не по вашим делам и заслугам перед Отечеством так поступать», — если уверен, что ТЫ прав. А горлопанить — это мартовские коты, когда у них мозги набекрень.

[cast iron]

Я не собираюсь кланяться предателям Родины СССР. Единственная заслуга Терешковой перед страной в том, что она выставила себя в качестве подопытной обезьяны. Ее полет в космос был только для того, чтобы узнать как ведет себя женское тело в космосе. Никаких заслуг кроме прыжков с парашютом у Терешковой до полета в космос не было. Она и самолетом-кукурузником никогда не управляла, в отличие от летчика-истребителя Гагарина. Никакой реальной научной деятельностью она до полета не занималась. Она была технологом легкой промышленности и в свободное время занималась парашютным спортом. Именно полет в космос открыл для нее все двери - в академию Жуковского и к званиям КТНа и Профессора. А сейчас она, как бывший член ЦК КПСС, является идеологической предательницей Родины СССР, т.к. состоит в капиталистический партии Единая России.

[Mentat]

Quote: Black

From the network:
By 2018, the entire population of Russia was divided into the following separate social groups:
- oligarchs 187 people.
- corrupt officials 579 people.
- criminals suspected of calling for a change in the existing political system 138 people.

Previously, you had to think.
Сейчас ничего не изменить, и никаких «изменений государственного строя» произойти не может, т.к. сами гражданы страны этого не хотят, и не хотели, когда гонялись за потребительством до такой степени, что несли с заводов и фабрик в дом всё что не было прикручено болтами. Вот эти граждане никуда не делись. Вы с ними коммунизм собрались строить? Не смешно.
Поэтому не надо ковырять в ране в надежде, что такая «альтернативная медицина» вдруг вылечит всё тело, оно подпрыгнет и закричит, что 17 лет вернулись.
А подобные приведённые вами тупые текстики «из интернета» и есть ни что иное как ковыряние в ранах. Более чем уверен, что за сочинителями на фоне обнаружится неподалёку заокеанская ухмылка в 32 зуба, а у них в кармане позвякивающие монеты за хениальные тексты.

[please]

Из 24 каналов в Саратовской области,только ОТР критически освещал пенсионную реформу.В остальных прямая трансляция московских кликуш о полезности начинания.
Вообще то получилось как в сказке-стебались над хохлами,получили подарок для себя,детей и внуков..При чём самое "демократическое" правительство и дума относится к своим гражданам как недоумкам.А может так оно и есть.

[shakirovN]

1. Налог на бездетность, даже при невозможности. (усыновление).
2. Многодетным пенсия как обычно, включая папу. (без папы многодетность не возможна).
3. Установление максимума з/п на госслужбе, либо госпредприятий.
4. Доходы свыше максимума облагать прогрессивным налогом.
5. Ипотека под 0% для семей с 4-мя и более с незапятнанной кредитной историей.(отсеем тунеядцев)
6. кредит на развитие бизнеса для семей с 4-мя и более с незапятнанной кредитной историей.(отсеем тунеядцев).
добавьте кто,что может без популизма. Интересно.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

your1970,
Vasilenko Vladimir,

Quote: your1970

- channels, houses were not included in units — therefore, they were not allocated in units, only land and funds: real estate / transport / agricultural equipment

ну вы не совсем правы, если на балансе колхоза, то входит ВСЕ

Quote: your1970

besides - the state farm does not pass at all

писали про колхоз, совхоз это совсем другое

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Nosgoth,

Quote: Nosgoth

А мне кажется, что кое кто идёт на работу, чтобы строчить "в интернетах" под выдуманной легендой.

о себе пишите?!

Quote: Nosgoth

Hereditary Crimean, son of a Russian officer?

слабо назвать себя с полным адресом?!