The General Staff acknowledged the erroneous transfer of thousands of officer positions to non-commissioned

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The General Staff acknowledged the erroneous transfer of thousands of officer positions to non-commissionedIn the Armed Forces of Russia, more than five thousand sergeant positions are expected to be transferred back to officer categories, Interfax reported, citing a source familiar with the situation.

“In the General Staff, together with the personnel department of the Ministry of Defense, we are working on the issue of transferring a number of non-commissioned officers to the officer category. To these primary command positions, first of all, will be graduates of military schools who complete their studies this year, as well as those young officers who now serve in sergeant positions. The total number of sergeant positions to be transferred to officers is more than five thousand, ”said the agency’s source.

According to him, “in fact, the General Staff recognized as erroneous, although it does not advertise this, the transfer in 2009 of the primary officer positions in the platoon-battalion link, as well as in the security and technical services of the types and types of troops as sergeants.”

“It came to the point that in the brigades of the Russian army in recent years they could not keep armored and automotive vehicles on alert. After all, not only sergeants-contract servicemen, but also sergeants of military service, who did not have any specialized technical education or experience in working with equipment, took the positions of technicians of the company and the fuel and lubricant services, ”the agency’s source added. Interfax
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    1. Inzhengr
      +11
      17 May 2012 08: 18
      And who will be responsible for the wasted? including frames?
      Probably no one again. We will see...
      1. party3AH
        +6
        17 May 2012 08: 34
        Here it is "furniture reform" (to put the sales manager at the machine, and teach the hard worker to answer the phone to orders) in the army this does not work.
        1. +3
          17 May 2012 09: 28
          Straight on Lenin. Each cook can rule the state. The furniture maker who does not dream of becoming a defense minister is bad. laughing
          1. Vadim555
            +2
            17 May 2012 14: 15
            Quote: Ross
            Ross Today, 09:28 a new 3 Straight across Lenin. Each cook can rule the state


            Do not follow the lead of the liberals, distorting the meaning of the phrase-

            “We are not utopians. We know that any laborer and any cook are not able to take control of the state now .. But we [...] demand an immediate break with the prejudice that the government is carried out, the bureaucratic, daily work of the department is carried out only by wealthy officials or wealthy families. We demand that training in public administration be given by conscious workers and soldiers, and that it begin immediately, that is, all workers, the whole poor, immediately begin to be involved in this training. ”

            "Will the Bolsheviks hold state power?" (1917) V.I. Lenin (1870-1924).
            1. +2
              17 May 2012 15: 54
              Vadim555,
              Thank you Vadim! Guilty, caught on the cliches.
        2. +4
          17 May 2012 09: 39
          The fact that any serious business should be headed by a professional and not an "effective manager" was openly talked about after the plane crash near Yaroslavl. The hockey team died there. But, they made some noise and again became obsessed with liberal reforms.
          If the check is dealt with not by the airline, but by the Army under the leadership of such creative managers, then the reckoning will be much more ambitious and cruel.
          Let's see how Putin meets the hopes that the people had in him during the vote.
      2. Odinplys
        -1
        17 May 2012 16: 24
        Quote: Engineering
        And who will be responsible for the wasted? including frames?
        Probably no one again. We will see...

        How far will we go .... if we demand penalties for admitting mistakes ...
        This is not the case ... admit your mistakes ... this is a worthy deed ...
    2. +10
      17 May 2012 08: 18
      But the General Staff does not want to admit the fallacy of the reform of the RF Armed Forces, together with the activities of the Minister of Defense and those who accepted it for execution?
      1. +8
        17 May 2012 08: 33
        Yes, friends don’t sit down ... you’re not good at musicians anyway ... or how now the rearrangement of furniture doesn’t affect the final result for the better ... just like monkeys copy Western military experience ... but with their brains it seems tense ... plus ..
        1. +1
          17 May 2012 12: 25
          or how now the rearrangement of furniture doesn’t affect the final result for the better ...

          If only on Feng Shui, to the karma of the apartment ... laughing
      2. +9
        17 May 2012 08: 36
        The question is rhetorical. Only I think this is not a mistake, but a crime, I will say more-betrayal.
    3. +10
      17 May 2012 08: 18
      What can I say bad about this - the skull must be tapped for such errors. And to insist so as to bring to progressive downism and discourage the leadership.
      What good can I say - something is beginning to change in our military-boiling tobish bucket - in the Army. If only changes with positive trends did not slow down the good will. Which snout in fluff.
      1. alex21411
        +3
        17 May 2012 08: 29
        Hi Valera !!! Though they admit their mistakes, they are somehow corrected ... God forbid that they would not screw up again ...
        1. +3
          17 May 2012 08: 34
          alex21411,
          Lesha, hello fellow countryman! Yes, something is starting to change. God grant that this swallow does not turn out to be the first and the last. drinks
      2. +4
        17 May 2012 08: 31
        Quote: esaul
        If only changes with positive trends did not slow down the good will. Which snout in fluff.

        Greetings Valera! That’s the point, and all the salt that most good-natured men dug into the fluff, which will stick sticks into the wheels. And you need to knock not only on the skull but also between the legs in order to reduce the birth rate of such downs to a critical point.
        1. +2
          17 May 2012 08: 36
          Victor, salute! These are the concerns I had in mind. Our practice in this regard is vast! am These goodies and the country under the arm are ready to shove into the abyss.
      3. +4
        17 May 2012 08: 34
        Yes Yesaul, it seems you got ... judging by the tone ... I sympathize with all of us ... and as you also hope ... plus ...
        1. +2
          17 May 2012 09: 37
          ward,
          Greetings, colleague. I expressed my attitude to this information yesterday in the arms pro-compromise branch as this news yesterday. Of course - a plus. Positive developments can not but reassure.
      4. party3AH
        +3
        17 May 2012 08: 35
        Most likely there was a "write-off" of another large amount, they say they tried it did not work, we admit, what about the money? what money?
      5. +10
        17 May 2012 08: 38
        ...... When at the beginning of the so-called reform, officers spoke out against stupid transformations (similar to the above), they were massively dismissed as opponents of the reform of the RF Armed Forces, ...... I can give examples of the sea .... literally last year, several promising young generals fired for disagreeing with Mr. Serdyukov ....
        So follow the chain of those responsible for the disgrace: - The General Staff of the RF-Supreme Commander-in-Chief .... and do not close your eyes and bashfully go around the topic of the main culprit ....
        You can minus .....
        1. +3
          17 May 2012 08: 42
          nothing to minus
    4. +5
      17 May 2012 08: 24
      It's time for Makarov to retire, and Serdyukov in "Three Whales" to sell furniture. Apparently for such mistakes they receive "orders-medals".
      1. Inzhengr
        +3
        17 May 2012 08: 26
        Yeah, we have the first marshal in the Russian Federation appeared, and received the star of the hero. Such honors for the skillful collapse of the army.
      2. 0
        17 May 2012 12: 42
        Quote: AK-74-1
        It's time for Makarov to retire, and Serdyukov in "Three Whales" to sell furniture.

        and the rest of the "recipients" ...? wink
        Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
        ... trace the chain of those responsible for the outrages: - General Staff of the RF-Supreme Commander ....
    5. ANTURAG
      +2
      17 May 2012 08: 26
      As always Mlyn, they will first do it and then think about it.
    6. KamikadZzzE
      +3
      17 May 2012 08: 28
      In tsarist Russia, the General Staff was the brain of the army, and in modern .... (language doesn’t turn to say that)
      1. +1
        17 May 2012 08: 35
        Well, what’s there ... frankly, the part of the body below the back .... plus ...
        1. KamikadZzzE
          0
          17 May 2012 08: 44
          ward,
          I meant it, just above the knees and just below the lower back
      2. party3AH
        0
        17 May 2012 08: 36
        I totally agree.
        1. +1
          17 May 2012 11: 01
          You are too luxurious, brothers, you are scattering body parts.
          What we are thinking about has an exact name.
          Anus called.
          The same hole where to sing.
          Here they are, those who rule there - and this is the most.
          Anus .. with hemorrhoids and cones.

          Only here they’re not returning the denyushka, after all, flawed.
          Neither the state nor the officers in sergeant form.

          Well poured Leverage ... we will not figure, we will not sew uniforms.
          Only the director of a furniture factory could push such rubbish out of the blue.
          And now, as an institute, they admitted ... we were mistaken. No more.

          How sickening to live without a machine gun. Or a bumblebee.
          1. KamikadZzzE
            0
            17 May 2012 22: 48
            He amused, however, not in the eyebrow, but in the eye. +++
    7. bad
      bad
      +2
      17 May 2012 08: 30
      Cheers, well, where are you? Do not bypass this article!
      1. Inzhengr
        +1
        17 May 2012 08: 33
        Shriveled and shrunk, like a "tool" in cold water wassat
    8. YARY
      +1
      17 May 2012 08: 30
      Our General Staff, as always, put the cart in front of the horse !!! angry
      The decision was right! But for this it is necessary to create a training base and replace the corporals with newly trained officers! And after the training of the corporals according to the new method, change everything else! fool
      Well, we also need a saber and! Hurray! fool angry
      1. _Igor_
        0
        17 May 2012 08: 34
        so you need to think about it, but this option is not included in the basic package for deliveries
      2. +2
        17 May 2012 08: 39
        Not with a saber, but with a naked ... on a hedgehog.
        As you can see, the reforms have not bypassed the general staff, there are fewer and fewer thinking officers, and more and more “effective managers”.
      3. nnnnnnnnn
        0
        17 May 2012 11: 06
        Quote: Ardent
        Our General Staff, as always, put the cart before the horse !!

        I agree with you, a colleague, as he talked with a classmate at school, he serves in the Ministry of Defense of Kazakhstan, told until they established a training base, did not create a Cadet Corps for the production of professional sergeants, did not write new methods and instructions, there were problems, and now the situation seems to have leveled off and only because sergeants in terms of their level of training and wages received are motivated to perform their duties, and this taking into account the fact that the number of personnel of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Kazakhstan is five times less than that of the Russian Federation, and otsess reformation is to create professional sergeants began in 1998 and continues to this day. With respect.
    9. +4
      17 May 2012 08: 32
      How did these dol ----- s got in big uniform. I’m no longer up to corporate ethics; I’m really sick of them already. My wife continues to serve, and I, as I was waiting for the order, seem to have retired. Therefore, having ceased to feel the presence of these idiots with my hump, I really worry. when the wife begins to complain about this mess. Now, by the grace of these reformers, no one is responsible for anything, therefore they are tearing anyone and one another. As a rule, it falls well also to those who are generally on the side. am Makhnovism. fool
    10. Dust
      +3
      17 May 2012 08: 41
      Yesaul used to be two hands behind, but now again the sun has peeked out from behind the clouds?
      Indeed, almost everyone immediately opposed this innovation - but to those who decided it was purple! It is said - done, thousands of fates have been broken, and now this is spoken of as a small misunderstanding?
      Who invented this? How did he answer for this? Where is the landing?
      1. +1
        17 May 2012 08: 45
        I remember how I spoke out about this and that something like that has already happened and failed, they threw cons)) but it was really visible who was worth what ..
        1. 0
          17 May 2012 09: 54
          Quote: Gleb
          I remember how I spoke out about this and that something like that has already happened and failed, they threw cons)) but it was really visible who was worth what ..

          Gleb, please remind me - when and in which branch they threw minuses to you.
          1. 0
            17 May 2012 11: 04
            should I reread all my comments? for what?
          2. +1
            17 May 2012 20: 18
            saw? in this EPT ..
      2. Cadet
        +2
        17 May 2012 09: 03
        And there will be no landings, as always: we tried it, it didn’t work, people broke their destinies, they let the money go, and then they say “Everything is good, this is reform”. When will senior management be responsible? Many criticize Stalin, but under him, at best, all the high authorities were waiting for Kolyma for such reforms, and now orders and medals or transfer to another well-paid job! All this has bothered!
      3. Inzhengr
        +3
        17 May 2012 09: 05
        In Russia, the highest punishment for current top officials for fatal failures nationwide is a transfer to another position with an increase. ... instead of being shot.
        1. Odinplys
          -1
          17 May 2012 16: 40
          Inzhengr,

          You are a very bloodthirsty flea ... However ...
    11. Igor
      +3
      17 May 2012 09: 02
      Yes, these krivoruky still can’t order a normal form; everywhere, failure in the USSR, 80% of such a general staff would have been sent to an all-Union health resort (to Kolyma).
    12. +3
      17 May 2012 09: 03
      Congratulations, friends! Smart people gathered on this site are able to analyze and give good recommendations.
    13. procop843
      +3
      17 May 2012 09: 09
      I wonder where they get a technically literate lieutenant. You can teach weekly maintenance in the scope of inspection, and repairs, etc. it's db outsourcing - in Russian, this is such an ass, given the state of the Armed Forces and the state. This is a mine.
    14. 0
      17 May 2012 09: 49
      Quote: kosopuz
      Let's see how Putin meets the hopes that the people had in him during the vote.

      And 12 of past years was not enough ???
      1. +1
        17 May 2012 10: 38
        Substitute (1) Today, 09: 49
        And 12 of past years was not enough ???
        -----------------------------------------------------------
        And would you do more in his place, starting from the Ebnov base?
    15. Dmitry23RUS
      0
      17 May 2012 10: 07
      Serdyukov is a strange person, can we smoke something non-smoking?
    16. bremest
      +1
      17 May 2012 11: 01
      It is also a mistake to be Comrade Taburetkin as Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, and Comrade Makarov as Head of the General Staff .........
    17. welder
      +1
      17 May 2012 11: 13
      Or maybe we’re happy early?! They admitted that they recognized, but as if the matter wouldn’t arise ... I’ll wait and see
    18. Nechai
      +4
      17 May 2012 11: 19
      Quote: Ross
      Straight on Lenin. Each cook can rule the state

      Eugene, if you are already referring to the quote and the thoughts stated in it, then at least look in the original source, and do not repeat the hammered dezu by the libero-demokrats. "Every cook needs to LEARN to govern the state". Starting naturally from the lowest steps - that is, POPULATION.
      Quote: Tersky
      But the General Staff does not want to admit the fallacy of the reform of the RF Armed Forces, together with the activities of the Minister of Defense and those who accepted it for execution?

      Slightly paraphrasing from the scene of the court session in "Prisoner of the Caucasus" Yuri Nikulin's remark - "And he can’t admit!"The General Staff is now the general contractor fulfilling the order. And not the BRAIN of the Army. The very postulate that the battles of multi-million-strong armies in the past have been sucked out of (censorship). rollers ", also pushed the whole idea that he sees the future of the army in powerful shock" fists ", and not in the confrontation of huge armies. Life has shown that without no less powerful infantry formations, the most powerful" fists "are cut off at times and to the most ears.
      Quote: TRex
      Reforms have not spared the general staff, there are fewer and fewer thinking officers, and more and more “effective managers”.

      And you don’t need thinkers who are able to independently develop decisions, translate them into reality and bear both responsibility and take well-deserved rewards in peacetime. Their turn comes ONLY during the WAR....
    19. +1
      17 May 2012 11: 22
      Serdyukov is somehow strange
      man, we can smoke what
      non-tobacco?Dmitry23RUS,

      Looking for the fifth corner in the Kremlin, along with Makarov, so that inadvertently the officers wouldn’t tear off their head! Who still doesn’t care about our army!
    20. -2
      17 May 2012 11: 28
      Quote: kosopuz
      And would you do more in his place, starting from the Ebnov base?

      From some such base ??? In fact, Putin got the base of the USSR. Yes, with hungry officers and warrant officers, but with enormous potential. And it was under him that the systematic and planned destruction of the Armed Forces began under the guise of the so-called "reform."
      On his place? So he was striving for this "place", not me. From him and demand. And many people can speak beautifully and frown, and without a piece of paper.
      1. Odinplys
        -3
        17 May 2012 16: 51
        Quote: Understudy
        On his place? So he was striving for this "place", not me. From him and demand. And many people can speak beautifully and frown, and without a piece of paper.


        And what they also aspired to ... and were not lucky ... well, nothing ... Putin says ... as you put it ... without a piece of paper ... apparently left for "well-wishers" ... assuming that they will be carried .. ...
        You see, he even took care of this ... so don’t worry, everything will work out ...
    21. Sokerin
      +1
      17 May 2012 11: 49
      Quote: Engineering
      And who is responsible for



      Army Pseudo-Reforms

      http://www.stihi.ru/2010/06/29/4276

      About twenty years - and all the "reforms"
      The troops are shaking like sticky
      They change everything: bosses, uniforms,
      What do they want? - No one knows…

      And the question arises here:
      So why the heck the troops "in the runaway"
      Long gone, and run away
      Of these, all those who Does business know?
    22. tverskoi77
      0
      17 May 2012 12: 24
      The General Staff admitted their mistake - this is progress. Or maybe the beginning of a trend toward understanding not the professionalism of the leadership of the military department. Yes, also with the help of Rogozin?
      PS but do not forget that the current does not make mistakes, who does nothing.
    23. +1
      17 May 2012 12: 31
      We wanted the best, but it turned out as always
    24. Sokerin
      +3
      17 May 2012 12: 44
      Quote: party3AH
      Here it is "furniture reform"



      From the life of the great reformers (Fraltsova)

      http://blog.kp.ru/users/2125404/post170777548


      FROM READER LETTER:

      They told friends who returned from a business trip to Mozhaika.
      The officers of Mozhaiki told them this story. Fraltsova came in the winter. For a long time they took us to classrooms, buildings ... Finally, we entered the administration of the academy. On the first floor, as usual post # 1. She asks - \ "What's this? \". Post number 1, the most important post at the Battle Banner, - they explain to her. To hold this post, they tell her, is an honor that is not available to everyone .... In response, they heard - \ "Checkbox to the warehouse, boy - to the class. \ "Of course, they did not fulfill this delirium .... But how indicative !!! What words !!!! ......
      ______________________________________________________________

      How could this "reformer" know that with regard to the imposition of sergeants,
      we have a question - PSYCHOLOGICAL, and blind imitation of the Americans
      there is no way to ride, because in the foreseeable future, NOT ONE, any
      a young man who knows his worth, DOES NOT GO to these sergeant schools ....

      And all because ALWAYS the service began with the receipt of lieutenant
      gold epaulettes, and not with sergeant's bastards .....

      As my boss used to say:

      - If I am wrong, then let the senior comrades "correct" me ....
    25. +5
      17 May 2012 13: 17
      no matter how far you go in the wrong way, come back
      (Turkish saying)

      AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!!!!! We have Turks in the General Staff.
      1. +1
        17 May 2012 13: 56
        Quote: vorobey
        We have Turks in the General Staff.

        And I always suspected that they were not Cossacks!
    26. +1
      18 May 2012 10: 54
      And all this happens because in the Moscow Region there are snickering civilians who do not know what military service is in the valiant Armed Forces of the Russian Federation with its service features ...
    27. 0
      18 May 2012 11: 16
      Quote: OdinPlys
      ... so don’t worry everything will work out ...


      It's too late for me to worry. Yes and no reason. Anxiety is observed among the "shape-shifters", for all their propaganda of "incredible successes" breaks down on the harsh truth of life. request
      The feldmebel here is wooden, and the one who appointed him is all white and fluffy. Rzhu ...

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