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The Russian government has developed a national project "Demography". This was done in preparation for the implementation of the May “super-order” by President Putin, according to which, by October 1, the government must submit for approval a whole range of programs and projects aimed at improving the social and economic situation in the country. In this decree, the demographic block is the first item, which emphasizes its importance and priority, therefore, the government’s response is rather expected.




According to the proposed program, the national project "Demography" will include the following main points: "Financial support for families at the birth of children", "Creation of the nursery - support for women's employment", "Older generation", "Strengthening public health" and "New physical culture of the population ".

It is planned to allocate to all this magnificence three and a half trillion rubles.

Without disputing the fact that such a national project will be very useful for our country and society, it should be noted that its presentation is somehow very similar to an attempt to soften the public response to pension reform and still convince people that it will for them quite painless.

In particular, the head of the Russian government, Dmitry Medvedev, called for an environment for active longevity. The government really wants us not only to live longer, but to lead an active and dignified lifestyle.

First of all, care about the health of the older generation is necessary. This means that all sorts of health problems should be sought to identify in the early stages, for this, the scale of clinical examination and follow-up should be increased.


This in itself is, of course, not bad. But is it really justified "first of all"? Attempts to solve the demographic problems of the state due to the increase in life expectancy, and not due to the increase in the birth rate, are a priori dead-end in the long run. And if this becomes a priority, then it is clear that the government simply does not see any other ways. Or does not want to implement them, knowing that it will be more difficult to convince women to give birth than to make life a little longer with the help of investments in medicine.

To be on the safe side, I’ll clarify: I’m using two hands for the increase in life expectancy, for active and productive old age and other privileges for the “survival age”. What is embarrassing is that the government, having got rid of pension reform, may make its subsequent decisions hostage to its own incompetence.

Although, let's be fair, so far this is not so bad. Family support, planned under the general program “Demography”, does not exclude old and quite popular tools, such as maternity capital, targeted financial assistance, and even preferential mortgages. However, it is not entirely clear how much of this will be realized, in particular, in the matter of subsidizing mortgage lending to families who give birth to the second and subsequent children. If this is more extensive than it is now, and a woman, giving birth to children, can make a real and significant contribution to the prosperity of her family, the effect can be quite significant.

It should be noted that Medvedev separately mentioned the importance of rising birth rates as a factor of national prosperity. And, especially pleased, for the first time it was emphasized that growth was especially needed in regions experiencing significant demographic problems. That is, there is at least a faint hope that help will no longer be spread evenly across the country, equally stimulating the birth rate in Dagestan, where this is not necessary (it is necessary to stimulate employment there), and somewhere in Sakhalin, where demographic problems really are a serious challenge.

However, will we go from recognizing some demographic realities to an adequate approach to solving them? The question is still open.

Some problems raised in the program are not impressive with the scale of the solutions. The annual retraining of thirty thousand women on maternity leave, and the allocation of “whole” one and a half billion rubles for this purpose looks somehow even mocking. Are these all measures to stimulate employment, Dmitry Anatolyevich? If so, then success is inevitable.

Although not. The measures to stimulate employment include the planned creation of two hundred and fifty thousand places in nurseries and kindergartens. However, this is rather strange stimulation. The government is saying, we will untie your hands, dear women. And then you somehow yourself ...

In addition to the announcement of the mentioned program, the report of the HSE experts, according to which in the past year in Russia it was two hundred thousand less, arrived. There, however, it does not say which part of these two hundred thousand died out, and which one became rich. But there are some vague suspicions that the first was still much more than the second.

What are these suspicions caused by? Well, at least the data that the average salary in Russia is now at the level of the poorest countries in Eastern Europe. In particular, if we earlier overtook Bulgaria on this indicator by 30%, now it has reduced the gap to ten. But this is the very Bulgaria, about the enormous problems of which we love to talk so much and constantly set it as an example as an absolute loser of EU integration.

But Romania has completely overtaken us. Although still in 2011, it was behind 22%, and then this gap only grew.

The average salary in the 2017 year was our 671 dollar. This is significantly more than at the peak of the crisis, in 2015, almost by 17%. But on 40% less than in the pre-crisis 2013, when the average salary of Russians was 935 US dollars.

If absolute numbers seem doubtful to someone, then the calculation of purchasing power parity plunges you into even more disheartening. By this indicator, we are already behind Belarus! True, so far only 8 dollars per month. But, you see, the fact itself makes you think about a lot ...

It is clear that “purchasing power parity” is a rather controversial thing. But still, she gives some idea of ​​how much you can buy for one salary in a particular country. And despite the fact that nominally Russian salaries are still significantly higher than Belarusian ones (671 versus 421 USD), we can only guess how the “dad” regulates (in favor of people!) Prices and social benefits in order to practically level the fifty percent salary difference!

It is also a reason to think about how predatory our business is, about the endless help that the government cares about.

By the way, the demographic situation of the Syabry is better. So, shouldn't we supplement the program “Demography” with valuable Belarusian experience? Less thieves, criminals, migrants, for example? More responsible business?

This is all the more reasonable since the geopolitical situation is unfavorable for Minsk from the very coming of Lukashenka to power. And nothing - with much smaller possibilities, they seem to cope with this better than us ...
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  1. Vard
    Vard 25 July 2018 05: 50
    +9
    I recently read that incomes in Belarus are higher than in Russia ... If so, then the old man earned a monument of life-size gold during his lifetime ...
    1. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 25 July 2018 05: 57
      +3
      Quote: Vard
      If so, then the Old Man earned a life-size gold monument during his lifetime ...

      There probably already is not one, like ours, and not one either, but there is still a difference between them, too. Who cares? Guess for yourself ...
    2. avt
      avt 25 July 2018 08: 27
      +8
      Quote: Vard
      I recently read that incomes in Belarus are higher than in Russia ... If so, then the old man earned a monument of life-size gold during his lifetime ...

      Soon you will read an article about how Yack Butsk lends to Russia, in fact we all live on loans from Belarus. Then from what monument will you sculpt a pit? wassat
      1. Prisoner
        Prisoner 29 July 2018 19: 33
        0
        Of mashed potatoes, of course. Not of gold. request
    3. Victor jnnjdfy
      Victor jnnjdfy 25 July 2018 09: 22
      +12
      Yeah. Higher and thicker incomes in Belarus. Here (in the Republic of Belarus) the cleaning lady removes 60 (sixty) entrances for $ 100 per month. Plumber in the housing and communal services works for $ 150-200 per month. Belarusian sugar costs 30 rubles in the Russian Federation. , and in Belarus itself 45 rubles. And so on the list. Do Belarusians run to work in Russia and Poland or do Russians go to work in Belarus?
      "Fairytale" article. True, so far in Belarus maternity leave for women is three years. But they already want to switch it. There is no "ataman" gold reserve.
      1. Vladimir 5
        Vladimir 5 25 July 2018 11: 49
        +3
        There is no oil in Belarus and Russian oligarchs and officials have to pay a considerable part of the budget (with a salary of 25 million rubles per month). It’s interesting if in Belarus they found oil, where the profit would go in excess, obviously not in offshore ...
        1. Victor jnnjdfy
          Victor jnnjdfy 25 July 2018 12: 20
          +8
          Belarus receives oil from Russia at domestic prices. Oil is refined in Mozyr and Novopolotsk at a refinery. Petroleum products are exported from Belarus. Belarus export duty allowed to keep. Let it be for now.
          As long as there is such a freebie, Belarus does not need its own oil.
          1. Vladimir 5
            Vladimir 5 25 July 2018 18: 44
            +3
            And how much oil is supplied to one or two refineries, and then they often cut off the supply and increase tariffs, because Grigory Alexandrovich goes to beg ... I’m not saying that everything is right and openwork, but the factories are not stolen, the land is plowed .. and in Russia alone windbreaks and abandoned fields, factories plundered, single-industry towns look like chimeras ...
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            2. avt
              avt 26 July 2018 09: 26
              +3
              Quote: Vladimir 5
              And how much oil is received at one or two refineries, and then often the supply is cut and the tariffs are increased, because Grigory Alexandrovich goes to beg.

              fool Learn the materiel! Because receiving raw, yong trading in processed distillates promised according to the agreement he shares the dolygha with the sale. Instead, he began to rattle corny, driving gasoline, like paints and varnishes. To which, having estimated losses, after warnings, these
              Quote: Vladimir 5
              rates

              on lost profits. Well, in response only - ,, Do not bend us! "Yes, such clever people start songs about
              Quote: Vladimir 5
              There is no oil in Belarus and Russian oligarchs and officials have to pay a considerable part of the budget (with a salary of 25 million rubles a month)
              to sleep.
              1. Vladimir 5
                Vladimir 5 27 July 2018 12: 29
                +1
                And whence the information that “Old Man” is ratting, but in fact the Russian “businessmen” with the second Israeli passports started ratting “Belkali”, they opened a criminal case and transferred it to the Russian Federation according to investigative irrefutable evidence, so Vladimir Putin covered up this criminal case. Understand who the rat is, then assert the facts ... But you have a certain attitude, so there will be few facts, a lot of eloquence ...
      2. sapporo1959
        sapporo1959 25 July 2018 13: 00
        +1
        A fighter with the regime or what? And then I look the same a lot of fabulous things you like to tell us here ..?
      3. AK1972
        AK1972 25 July 2018 13: 17
        +9
        Absolute truth. I live on the border with Belarus. I often travel to Belarus. A salary of $ 300 is considered very good. $ 500 is an oligarch. I have not heard a single good word about Lukashenko. Or silence or open indignation. A young Belorussian is working in my submission. Received a temporary residence permit in the Russian Federation. Queued for citizenship. Not from a good life.
        1. Victor jnnjdfy
          Victor jnnjdfy 25 July 2018 13: 48
          +5
          A citizen of Belarus in the Russian Federation immediately receives a "residence permit". RVP for Ukrainians. After obtaining a residence permit, after some time you can apply for citizenship of the Russian Federation.
          In addition to salaries (good $ 300 for men and $ 150-200 for women in the Belarusian province), they also conclude fixed-term employment contracts that allow the employer to dismiss an employee without explaining anything at the end of the TD. It will be necessary, let’s say, to him to employ a relative or acquaintance ...
          1. Vlad.by
            Vlad.by 25 July 2018 19: 28
            +4
            that's for sure! But the term is 1 year. And every year a person hangs under the possibility of non-renewal of the contract. It’s very convenient for the leader, don’t you?
            And about nepotism and relatives-this is for example in Belposhta. There are all the leaders from one big family. But no corruption laughing
            1. Victor jnnjdfy
              Victor jnnjdfy 25 July 2018 20: 00
              +2
              For staff members, there may be a longer contract period. But primarily and in the "fish" places a year.
              1. Vlad.by
                Vlad.by 25 July 2018 20: 25
                +2
                That's right in the fishing places where relatives sit for 3-5 years, with an extension if the parties have no objections.
          2. AK1972
            AK1972 26 July 2018 17: 00
            -1
            Quote: Victor Jnnjdfy
            A citizen of Belarus in the Russian Federation immediately receives a "residence permit". RVP for Ukrainians.

            Sorry for the typo. Of course, "Residence Permit."
        2. sapporo1959
          sapporo1959 25 July 2018 13: 54
          0
          Straight horror! And why, by the way, did you hide on what border you live, where Belarusians feel so freely ... I thought, and I'll see where the Russians live so happily? Maybe the same thing is torn behind the ruble long, so that the shrimp would not be picked out from the carapace by the prosthesis for a hundred bucks at night .. They made plans and they have to pick the rich for the Russians ..
      4. luxury
        luxury 25 July 2018 15: 40
        +2
        and how much communal in Belarus ?, and 30 rubles. I didn’t see sugar in Russia, at least in the Saratov region. The cleaner doesn’t get much more from us ..
        1. sapporo1959
          sapporo1959 25 July 2018 17: 45
          +3
          Well, I live in my house and I have a gas boiler, so the last time I paid 70 rubles, which is for Russian 2215. But I have a lot of light, and now it has risen in price. This amount I have, light, gas, water, rubbish and the Internet ... In the city it’s less expensive. Well, on salaries it all depends on qualifications and who you work like everywhere else. Here is my sister at the Berezovsky Canning Factory, so two years ago I turned out to be a thousand technologist .. You’ll be a skotnik yes 150-200 to receive, but already a shepherd, then 500, or even 700 ... True, the kalgas are different where there are more and less. wrote that type of housing and communal services fitter in Belarus receive 200 bucks each, let him see how many same locksmiths get in Smolensk and he will be very surprised ..
          1. Victor jnnjdfy
            Victor jnnjdfy 25 July 2018 18: 42
            +5
            Sapporo, no need to speak. By your speeches you are trying to destroy the Belarusian state. The economy of Belarus keeps:
            - on duty-free Russian oil;
            - Russian gas at $ 129 per thousand cubic meters;
            - Russian loans;
            - Re-export of sanctioned products in the Russian Federation.
            Putin respects what you write and cuts off everything for you and Belarus in order to increase the salary of plumbing in Smolensk.
          2. beeper
            beeper 26 July 2018 00: 48
            +5
            Quote: sapporo1959
            Well, I live in my house and I have a gas boiler, so the last time I paid 70 rubles, which is for Russian 2215. But I have a lot of light, and now it has risen in price. This amount I have, light, gas, water, rubbish and the Internet ... In the city it’s less expensive. Well, on salaries it all depends on qualifications and who you work like everywhere else. Here is my sister at the Berezovsky Canning Factory, so two years ago I turned out to be a thousand technologist .. You’ll be a skotnik yes 150-200 to receive, but already a shepherd, then 500, or even 700 ... True, the kalgas are different where there are more and less. wrote that type of housing and communal services fitter in Belarus receive 200 bucks each, let him see how many same locksmiths get in Smolensk and he will be very surprised ..

            hi Comrade Sapporo1959, my respect to your technologist sister and to all working people at the Berezovsky cannery — they have a good stew good both in quality and in price, I like it (but not one of the Belarusian stews I tried and Ukrainian "stew-like substances" of various manufacturers that I tried, reaches the unforgettable taste of the Soviet army stew, IMHO!)!
            All of my more or less capable and young, Belarusian relatives and acquaintances go to work in Russia or have already taken root and are bothering about Russian citizenship, and a recent report by the Russian media about allegedly higher Belarusian earnings than Russian looks ridiculous to them as propaganda " duck, "akin to the" average temperature in the hospital "!
            I know firsthand about one-year contracts and small-town voluntarism associated with them, as well as about the “immaculate red family”, probably with a “roof” in Minsk, in this way crushing for themselves and turning into a city sinecure, like irony, located directly opposite the building of the regional KGB and the monument to the Chekists, and easily surviving all those who do not want to "play their games" - in order to stay at their favorite work with children and "renew the contract" for another year, teachers are forced to put up, remain silent and "do whatever they say" !
        2. Victor jnnjdfy
          Victor jnnjdfy 25 July 2018 18: 15
          +5
          Belarusian sugar was also sold in St. Petersburg at 27. Refrigerators "Atlant" or Belarusian carpets often (exchange rates) in Russia are cheaper than in Belarus for their citizens. Agree that from Ruzhany you will not go to St. Petersburg for sugar or a refrigerator ...
          There is no work in Belarus. Employment for relatives through relatives. In Russia, by and large, is also very bad with social elevators. In Belarus it’s even worse.
          By the way. Mother in the spring was tired that the flowerbed near the house after the winter is dirty. I called. She was told that everyone knows but there aren’t enough hands. There were 14 people. landscapers, and left 5. Reduction of staff, because no money. Mom spat on all their states and cleaned the flower bed, regardless of years.
          1. sapporo1959
            sapporo1959 25 July 2018 18: 52
            +1
            Flowerbeds are filthy! Sugar is expensive, and in general it’s time for everyone to go to Peter .. If I hadn’t lived, then I would have believed your hard fate ... Do you happen to accidentally shake hands in the morning from hard work?
            1. Victor jnnjdfy
              Victor jnnjdfy 25 July 2018 20: 12
              +5
              I live and work in St. Petersburg. In Belarus, I rest. Belarus is my homeland.
              I work with my head, so my hands do not shake. You, apparently, have to work not with your head, but with your hands. Although, having a "sister" boss at the canning ...
              By the way. In Belarus, bosses are more arrogant than in Russia. The difference in salary between the employee and the boss there is perhaps higher.
              1. sapporo1959
                sapporo1959 25 July 2018 22: 03
                +1
                Well, it's good that my head does not shake! Peter is a big city, where will it drag under the drawbridge and will we lose such a valuable vacationer from Russia? And this is already a disaster. Who then pick prawns?
      5. MrK
        MrK 25 July 2018 20: 48
        +1
        Quote: Victor Jnnjdfy
        Do Belarusians run to work in Russia and Poland or do Russians go to work in Belarus?


        Russians do not go anywhere. They are dying out. Over the 6 months of this year, the population of Russia decreased by almost 100 000 people, data from Rosstat. And in the television box is all about maternal capital, the Far Eastern hectare. Something does not help.
    4. Lexa-149
      Lexa-149 25 July 2018 22: 42
      +4
      It is not clear why Belarusians in Russia then go to work ?!
  2. Rimlianin
    Rimlianin 25 July 2018 06: 16
    +17
    I work and live in Russia, the south of Siberia. As for me, the level of income over the past five years has not changed much. The increase in prices is to some extent offset by a small increase in salaries. In general, of course, it got a little tighter. But it was not so hot before. If in 2014 I had a salary of $ 800 in terms of rubles, now - 400. Then I thought that I was about to get a fraction of the bucks, but now I don’t even dream about it. And do not say that we live in rubles. All products include an import component. Somewhere less, somewhere more. Like this.
    1. RaptorF22
      RaptorF22 25 July 2018 07: 17
      +5
      And there is good But our lovers of raising prices will come up with a thousand and one excuses to cash in on people smile
      1. MPN
        MPN 25 July 2018 12: 55
        +1
        Quote: RaptorF22
        And there is good But our lovers of raising prices will come up with a thousand and one excuses to cash in on people smile
        And not just price increases ... here
        according to which last year in Russia there were two hundred thousand poor people less.
        They died, and the government wrote it to themselves in the statistics of merits ... request
    2. smel
      smel 25 July 2018 09: 17
      0
      In general, of course, it got a little tighter. But it was not so hot before.
      If you find time, read the biographies of people who are ministers, deputy ministers, heads of departments and offices of ministries and departments of our country. Try to do the same in the regional government and parliament. Fortunately, this information is now available. Then it is necessary to make an adjustment for the image coefficient of the representative of the authorities. Compare your employee experience with their experience, your aspirations with their ambitions. Then the reason for such a life, such salaries, such a perspective will become clear.
      1. Rimlianin
        Rimlianin 25 July 2018 13: 34
        +3
        Listen, I brought myself only as an example. Such income is received by millions of our citizens. Or will they also advise them to look at the ministers? What are you talking about? I do not seem to have asked for advice on how to increase my income.
        1. smel
          smel 26 July 2018 08: 19
          0
          I either put it wrong, or you misunderstood me. After a series of unpopular decisions of our government, I became interested in the people who are at the helm of power. I read their biographies, the labor path of many of those in power. And dumbfounded ... With rare exceptions, none of them plowed anywhere. In remote regions did not work. Everything has been achieved and all career heights have been achieved by them along a very dubious path. Your (as well as my problems) they do not understand. This is what my previous post is about. Perhaps my sarcasm is not accepted? Excuse me.
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 25 July 2018 06: 39
    +5
    The ideas are beautiful, but who will fulfill them and how? It is possible that it will turn out according to Chernomyrdin - "they wanted the best, but it turned out as always."
    1. RaptorF22
      RaptorF22 25 July 2018 07: 13
      0
      Most likely it will Yes
    2. Mih1974
      Mih1974 25 July 2018 07: 19
      +9
      I don’t want to upset you, but let's look not at “words” but at “actions”: they raise the retirement age - negative , by noise they will cancel the harmfulness in different industries and in general - negative banks are destroyed, even if it’s not the production of “bolts”, but jobs are also - negative increase taxes - negative , gas prices are rising (and probably for the rest of the petrochemicals) - negative ; is there anything positive, well there is a "state project" of the Crimean bridge - good (even if it’s only 20.000 working places), it’s kind of like the construction of a bridge on Sakhalin will be - good . These are roughly the facts, and not "we promise that everyone will be sweet."
      So to replace these geeks even with the Old Man, at least with the others - will be at least no worse. request
      Therefore, "they wanted the best" should be considered only in interpretation - they wanted the best FOR YOURSELF.
    3. Vard
      Vard 25 July 2018 08: 04
      +1
      It turned out better for them ... but for us ... here you are right ... as always ...
  4. New Year day
    New Year day 25 July 2018 06: 46
    +11
    The Russian government has developed a national project "Demography"

    with this alone you’ve already been wary, have you started something bad again? As soon as they plan to improve something, it will definitely get worse!
    1. RaptorF22
      RaptorF22 25 July 2018 07: 12
      0
      +100500 good Only naive people can expect anything good from them winked
  5. RaptorF22
    RaptorF22 25 July 2018 07: 20
    +3
    The author forgot to add how much Papa raises money by trading with us a sanction from Europe winked And with the other hand begging money from Moscow feel Yes
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 25 July 2018 07: 34
      +7
      Quote: RaptorF22
      And with the other hand begging money from Moscow

      That's how I see how Moscow in a fit of unbridled generosity showers him with money without a break for lunch. Due to Moscow, only Belarus has survived ... belay If only the Russian province would learn from the Old Man, but how the flies recover from the "Medvedev leadership". We don’t even know where to go to work, there are so many highly qualified and highly paid vacancies. The same should be offered as much as 14000-18000 rubles a month. In the seventies in the USSR with that kind of money you could buy two Volga ... wassat truth without tributaries ... feel
      1. RaptorF22
        RaptorF22 25 July 2018 07: 45
        +3
        Russian provinces, as you put it, would flourish request If no efficient managers sent in quotation marks winked Which behave as Varangians and elephants in a china shop am And sometimes as outright pests sad
    2. kepmor
      kepmor 25 July 2018 07: 39
      +6
      about the salary from the Kremlin, you are definitely right ...
      but about sanctioning, it’s not so simple ... you could say that - but you know how many of our people feed with spiders in uniform and with fat asses in high offices ... no, not right ... they just have a crack dough received from sanctions ...
    3. sapporo1959
      sapporo1959 25 July 2018 20: 11
      +1
      That’s exactly what the Old Man raised and equalized the pensions with almost the Russian ones, and the Russian lifters, in addition to the Olympics and World Cups, didn’t please the people with special economic successes. With such a wealth of mineral resources, you have to have a pension of 13, and you need to be able to pay wages of 35 ..
  6. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 25 July 2018 07: 27
    +8
    By the way, the demographic situation of the Syabry is better. So, shouldn't we supplement the program “Demography” with valuable Belarusian experience? Less thieves, criminals, migrants, for example? More responsible business?

    During the creation of the union state, such political and trade ties were planned that Alexander Grigoryevich could well become the president of Russia. But... request What has grown, has grown.
    A friend went to relatives in Belarus. He says that it feels like she returned to the USSR. In the best understanding of this moment. Around clean and tidy. I don’t know, probably the intelligence services are fighting there, not voluntary societies ...
    1. Vikxnumx
      Vikxnumx 25 July 2018 09: 16
      +2
      And also “children's” payments up to three years ... 320 Belarusian rubles. 10 000 rubles of the Russian Federation.
      And what about us?
  7. parusnik
    parusnik 25 July 2018 08: 39
    +1
    Family support, planned under the general program "Demography", does not exclude old and quite popular tools, such as maternity capital, targeted financial assistance and even preferential mortgages.
    ... smile There would be one more step ... to increase the prices of contraceptives, and on the packages with these funds, to print the following: .. You will not receive maternity capital .. He said there is no preferential mortgage ... financial assistance has passed ... smile
  8. vvvjak
    vvvjak 25 July 2018 08: 52
    +6
    Yeah, our incomes are higher and life is better, only for some reason “strange” Belarusians go to Russia to earn money. In the words of the AHL, "I was not lucky with the people, or the Chinese are dealing."
    1. Daniel
      Daniel 25 July 2018 09: 27
      +1
      This is how they write in Navinai Bai, Tui Bai and Ukrainians thought so until the Maidan struck. And where does he get the money that the Belarusians earned and get a change of profession for a programmer
      1. vvvjak
        vvvjak 25 July 2018 10: 44
        +3
        Well, you know better from Israel what the Belarusians think with the Ukrainians and what the local media “broadcast”.
        1. Daniel
          Daniel 25 July 2018 12: 00
          +1
          Well, I won’t ask you about whom to write to me, they also write about Israel from Belarus, and what should I know best from you from Belarus?
          1. vvvjak
            vvvjak 25 July 2018 12: 27
            +2
            I’m not a site moderator to ask me for permission. And before expressing your thoughts about who thinks it is advisable to communicate with specific people in countries. I won’t be surprised if only 10 percent of Belarusians turn out to share your point of view.
            1. Daniel
              Daniel 25 July 2018 12: 57
              +1
              Oh well, who is the best opposition Lebedko, Dashkevich, Paznyak
              1. vvvjak
                vvvjak 25 July 2018 13: 18
                +5
                Do not tell my slippers, what an opposition. Better in the Russian Federation or the EU (personally, the first option is closer to me). He himself has already begun to voice such thoughts.
                1. Daniel
                  Daniel 25 July 2018 13: 27
                  0
                  But how will your elite want to join Russia and the opposition will not start pro-Western unrest?
                  1. vvvjak
                    vvvjak 25 July 2018 13: 33
                    +5
                    Our "elite" as part of one presidential family is not going to "enter" anywhere because for all their shortcomings, they are not at all like suicides. But the opposition in Belarus has long been gone.
      2. aloleggry
        aloleggry 25 July 2018 11: 23
        0
        Programs do not grow bread. We must start from the beginning. The program is secondary, the bread is primary. And the assessment of labor should be from the beginning.
  9. Larum
    Larum 25 July 2018 09: 44
    0
    Rogues and thieves.

    How many similar projects and messages of the president have already been.

    and again, he chided Druganov again - that people don’t see that they live in paradise ....
  10. aloleggry
    aloleggry 25 July 2018 11: 11
    +1
    Quote: smel
    In general, of course, it got a little tighter. But it was not so hot before.
    If you find time, read the biographies of people who are ministers, deputy ministers, heads of departments and offices of ministries and departments of our country. Try to do the same in the regional government and parliament. Fortunately, this information is now available. Then it is necessary to make an adjustment for the image coefficient of the representative of the authorities. Compare your employee experience with their experience, your aspirations with their ambitions. Then the reason for such a life, such salaries, such a perspective will become clear.

    If everyone will work as ministers, deputies and other showmen, then excuse me, there will be nothing to eat.
  11. Radical
    Radical 25 July 2018 11: 32
    +1
    By the way, the demographic situation of the Syabry is better. So, shouldn't we supplement the program “Demography” with valuable Belarusian experience? Less thieves, criminals, migrants, for example? More responsible business?
    Or maybe even easier - to invite Butska to the kingdom ?! wassat
    1. sapporo1959
      sapporo1959 25 July 2018 13: 13
      +3
      By the way, there were similar conversations under Yeltsin. But Yeltsin realized that he could send such conversations to the kalgas as a result of the elections ..
    2. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 25 July 2018 19: 38
      +1
      And why, Russia is not accustomed to put experiments on the people ...
      Rygorych not Masherov, if that. He is also a business executive.
      But party political work is fully trained. That and takes.
      True, in the Russian Federation such a dime a dozen.
      That business executives at the helm is not enough
  12. YarSer88
    YarSer88 25 July 2018 13: 07
    0
    Another manipulation of the crisis. What conclusion can be made? That in a crisis, the standard of living falls sharply, and is restored for a long time. But everyone already knew that.
    The average salary in the 2017 year was our 671 dollar. This is significantly more than at the peak of the crisis, in 2015, almost by 17%. But on 40% less than in the pre-crisis 2013, when the average salary of Russians was 935 US dollars.

    The crisis in 2014 was caused by what’s known, now we are gradually getting out of this hole, but this is not interesting to write about, more interesting about:
    It is also a reason to think about how predatory our business is, about the endless help that the government cares about.

    and business, meanwhile, pays you the same salary. And if you pay so much, then you do not earn more. Of course, there are excesses among the stupid managers, but in general, the dependence of wages on contribution to the common cause can be traced. So, we must not sit and cry, as was good in 2013, but work and rebuild the economy.
  13. vladmort
    vladmort 25 July 2018 13: 32
    +1
    According to the proposed program, the national project “Demography” will include the following main points: “Financial support for families at the birth of children”, “Creation of nurseries - support for women's employment”

    Bullshit, an attempt to bribe women to give birth to a deliberately losing strategy. It is necessary that women realize their real inferiority outside the family. In order for there to be a normal birth rate and a family, it is necessary to get rid of 100 years of Satanism, called "equality between men and women," which in reality means privileges to women at the expense of men. This requires the following legislative reforms.


    1. The abolition of military service in the army. Only on a voluntary basis, through medical examination and exams.
    2. Cancellation of free higher education for persons who did not serve in the army.
    3. The ban on the occupation of any posts in state and budgetary organizations for persons who have not served in the army.
    4. The prohibition on electing and being elected for persons who have not served in the army.
    5. Separate training for persons of different sexes and a ban on occupation of any positions in educational institutions for persons of a different sex.
    6. Prohibition of abortion without the written permission of the father.
    7. Creation of a state register of reproductive health, where all medical indicators for each person that harm reproductive health (abortions, sexually transmitted diseases, etc.) are entered. Everyone should be able to check the history of the potential bride / groom.
    8. In the event of a divorce, granting the father the right to leave the child. Only in case of father's refusal to give to mother.
    9. Replacing alimony with a child’s name card with the father’s right to control the former’s expenses.
    1. Essex62
      Essex62 25 July 2018 15: 57
      0
      Genocide of women? It will be abruptly coup d'etat, the war of the sexes, you know, a country full of kirdyk.
      1. vladmort
        vladmort 26 July 2018 08: 25
        0
        Genocide of women? It will be abruptly coup d'etat, the war of the sexes, you know, a country full of kirdyk


        First, what genocide? Nobody calls for the destruction of women.

        Secondly, kirdyk country is inevitable while maintaining existing demographic trends, with a probability of 100%.
    2. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 25 July 2018 19: 42
      +1
      Ek, your ex poked!
      And the rest of the points as if from Israel, or from military communism.
      Where have you been for the last 30 years?
      1. vladmort
        vladmort 26 July 2018 08: 30
        0
        Quote: Vlad.by
        Ek, your ex poked!


        I do not have ex, married the first and only marriage.

        Quote: Vlad.by
        And the rest of the points as if from Israel, or from military communism.


        In Israel, terry feminism; war communism, promoted freedom of promiscuous sexual relations and complete equality. So past

        Quote: Vlad.by
        Where have you been for the last 30 years?


        In many countries of the world, of course, Russia is the champion of the Babsky lawlessness.
  14. Hypatius
    Hypatius 25 July 2018 18: 03
    +1
    Quote: vladmort
    According to the proposed program, the national project “Demography” will include the following main points: “Financial support for families at the birth of children”, “Creation of nurseries - support for women's employment”

    Bullshit, an attempt to bribe women to give birth to a deliberately losing strategy. It is necessary that women realize their real inferiority outside the family. In order for there to be a normal birth rate and a family, it is necessary to get rid of 100 years of Satanism, called "equality between men and women," which in reality means privileges to women at the expense of men. This requires the following legislative reforms.


    1. The abolition of military service in the army. Only on a voluntary basis, through medical examination and exams.
    2. Cancellation of free higher education for persons who did not serve in the army.
    3. The ban on the occupation of any posts in state and budgetary organizations for persons who have not served in the army.
    4. The prohibition on electing and being elected for persons who have not served in the army.
    5. Separate training for persons of different sexes and a ban on occupation of any positions in educational institutions for persons of a different sex.
    6. Prohibition of abortion without the written permission of the father.
    7. Creation of a state register of reproductive health, where all medical indicators for each person that harm reproductive health (abortions, sexually transmitted diseases, etc.) are entered. Everyone should be able to check the history of the potential bride / groom.
    8. In the event of a divorce, granting the father the right to leave the child. Only in case of father's refusal to give to mother.
    9. Replacing alimony with a child’s name card with the father’s right to control the former’s expenses.

    If, let me:
    10. Retirement of nulliparous women at the age of 60 (equal rights). But for the birth of each child up to 5 years of retirement benefit is not lower than the minimum wage at the expense of the budget (and not the PF), and with the right to transfer part of such leave to retirement age. For fertility.
    11. To strengthen the family: father's maintenance obligations only for children in a legal marriage. Decree of the Presidium of the USSR Armed Forces of 08.07.1944/XNUMX/XNUMX
    1. vladmort
      vladmort 26 July 2018 08: 36
      0
      .
      Quote: Hypatius
      If, let me:
      10. Retirement of nulliparous women at the age of 60 (equal rights). But for the birth of each child up to 5 years of retirement benefit is not lower than the minimum wage at the expense of the budget (and not the PF), and with the right to transfer part of such leave to retirement age. For fertility.


      I do not agree, again an attempt to bribe women. This should not be. A woman should have limited career opportunities corresponding to her reduced intellectual and business qualities, society should clearly indicate that full self-realization for a woman is only like a wife and mother.

      Quote: Hypatius
      11. To strengthen the family: father's maintenance obligations only for children in a legal marriage. Decree of the Presidium of the USSR Armed Forces of 08.07.1944/XNUMX/XNUMX


      Great initiative. 100% support!
  15. Tolik_74
    Tolik_74 25 July 2018 18: 41
    +3
    Forget everything that Lukashenka said, like your two children, and the third is mine. Now in Belarus a family with three children is not considered to be a large family, since the fall of 2012 only having 4 children has a large family. Yes, he promised a lot of cho, but things have been there for a quarter of a century. Abynebylaines, his favorite tale.
    1. sapporo1959
      sapporo1959 25 July 2018 20: 27
      +2
      And can the official link that Lukashenko canceled just write? And then on the fence the same thing is written, and women come in but they don’t see what they wanted there ..
      Well, here there are not many official data on salaries, benefits, well, and other payments ..
      https://www.kp.by/daily/26860.4/3902175/
  16. boris
    boris 25 July 2018 18: 44
    +1
    Paragraph 10 is generally correct, but with one caveat - do not extend it to those women who can not give birth for physiological reasons. There are not many of them.
  17. sapporo1959
    sapporo1959 25 July 2018 20: 35
    +1
    Well, not many with many children. And then a little bit of how to write!
    http://samsebeyurist.by/sotsialnaya-podderzhka/lg
    oty-dlja-mnogodetnyh-semej # part1
  18. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 27 July 2018 10: 08
    0
    Where they study there, they are close to the body they have enough of this, a bunch of balabolov, mediocrity. They are not responsible for their words. If the first person does not answer for his words, what can we say about those below. Wretched they are.
  19. Apollo
    Apollo 31 July 2018 22: 45
    0
    As the Russian government, reappointed by Putin, is trying, everyone in Russia has heard it. The result is a twofold drop in living standards.