New destroyer launched in China

The PLA Navy will soon be replenished with another Zibo destroyer. Last Sunday, the Type 14D Type 052D ship was launched at the Jiangnan Changxing shipyard near Shanghai, reports Warspot.

Ships of this project are being built in China since 2012. Already 8 destroyers are part of the Navy, three are being tested at sea, three more are being completed afloat. In addition, at least five ships are on the stocks. Thus, the PLA Navy will receive at least 19 Type 052D destroyers.

Zibo is somewhat different from its predecessors. It is equipped with an extended helipad to accommodate the new Z-20 helicopter. Also, Zibo and all subsequent destroyers (according to unconfirmed information) will receive new radars.

The displacement of ships is 7500 T, the draft is 6,5 m, the length is 156 m, and the width is 18 m. The maximum speed is 30 knots. Crew - 280 man.

During the construction of ships, stealth technologies are used, reducing their radar visibility.

The destroyer is armed with missiles capable of hitting air, surface and ground targets, torpedoes, mines, as well as 130-mm artillery and 30-mm anti-aircraft guns.

Currently, in addition to the above ships, Chinese shipyards are building destroyers of a new generation, the Type 055.

Comments

[maxim947]

Well done what to say .. we stand on the sidelines ((
I especially like the culture of production, not to mention the development of our own production of turbines, weapons and everything else, and this should be started.

[MPN]

Last Sunday, the 14th ship of the Type 052D project was launched at the Jiangnan Changxing shipyard near Shanghai

China, slow down for the sake of everything, we will choke on saliva because of your pace ..., for some reason, envy is no longer white, the color changes until it is clear which ...

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Quote: MPN

something envy is no longer white, the color is changing,

It's kind of sad in our fleet. A total of 2 live destroyers of the 965 project left "Ushakov" and "Quick". The rest of the chermet.

[ALEXXX1983]

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

Quote: MPN

something envy is no longer white, the color is changing,

It's kind of sad in our fleet. A total of 2 live destroyers of the 965 project left "Ushakov" and "Quick". The rest of the chermet.

They are replaced by "Rooks" and "Raptor" come. Soon, from the surface fleet, one trifle will remain with corvettes as flagships.
And the Chinese are really well done, the destroyers are riveting like hot cakes and the aircraft carriers are building.

[210ox]

This is what a powerful economy and resources mean.

[Mar.Tirah]

And in Italy it burned down. In La Spezia, the Italian Navy support vessel Vulcano caught fire. This was reported by the portal Naval Today. A completely new one, only a month since it was launched. Although not a destroyer, it’s still nice.

RIA News https://ria.ru/world/20180724/1525206767.html

[Setrac]

Quote: maxim947

not to mention the development of its own production of turbines

What are you talking about? Chinese destroyers do not have a propulsion system of their own design.

[maxim947]

It's about your own production, read carefully.

[Setrac]

Quote: maxim947

It's about your own production, read carefully.

I do not see a subject for enthusiasm here. China is so weak that military technology is being sold to it, they themselves are not able to design and create a ship power plant, what is there to admire?

[maxim947]

Yes, it is so weak that even we are already buying gas turbines from them. Judging by your koment you overslept the last 6 years

[Setrac]

Quote: maxim947

well, he is so weak that even we are already buying GTU from them.

Manufactured under license. I repeat once again if you are not able to understand from the first - China is not able to independently develop gas turbines, Russia is capable.

Quote: maxim947

Judging by your koment you overslept the last 6 years

You overslept the last six years, the first gas turbine of Russian production will be created in 2019, I note, not a license.

[maxim947]

Why do you think that China is not able to develop gas turbines?))) Still as capable. They damn Lunokhod has already been successfully launched, the orbital station flies, wake up.

[Setrac]

Quote: maxim947

Why do you think that China is not able to develop gas turbines?)))

Because they do not do this, but buy licenses, they could - they did.

Quote: maxim947

the orbital station flies, wake up.

And you google what this "orbital station" is! Not “Mir” and not even “Salute”.

[maxim947]

All. The curtain. I have no more questions ....

[Setrac]

Quote: maxim947

All. The curtain. I have no more questions ....

This is from ignorance.
The turbine blade is currently the most high-tech product of our civilization, the Chinese have not grown to their own gas turbines.

[voyaka uh]

"The turbine blade is currently the most high-tech product of our civilization," /////
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This is a relatively uncomplicated product. The alloy was invented by enumerating hundreds of options for thousands of experiments over a dozen years in some closed research institute.
Form is nothing at all.
Here is a good mobile phone to produce - really cool.
There are hundreds of technologies in one device.

[Mih1974]

Dear, let's look at the Facts - it doesn’t matter how, under license, industrial espionage or developed China will make itself a GTU collision as it sees fit and FIG who will stop it , Russia "in theory can develop a new gas turbine for itself," but in fact now it’s not even a pair of destroyers that it’s able to provide, let alone cruisers or frigates, .
Remember, the Nazis had the Myf uber tank, they didn’t shoot anywhere at all from the word, they had terrible fluff, but in fact they themselves blew up two test samples, because they lost the war with a "rusty and primitive T-34"
Strength, weapons and the Army are needed not Then, but Now.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: maxim947

Yes, it is so weak that even we are already buying gas turbines from them.

We buy ship diesel from the Chinese.
They did not sell GTE to us precisely for the reason that their production is secondary and depends on the same Nikolaev "Dawn". And violation of the ban on the sale or forgery of an end-user certificate automatically terminates cooperation and leaves the Chinese fleet without a cargo customs declaration.
However, there is a blessing in disguise - if the Chinese sold their gas-turbine engines to us, then hell would manage to build a domestic full-cycle gas-turbine engine factory - for effective managers would buy where it is cheaper.

[maxim947]

Thanks for the amendment, but the essence is basically the same

[RASKAT]

Damn, what are you talking about? What kind of culture? Almost an exact copy of our 956 project.
You do not believe find the drawings of both ships in the context and compare. And GTZA-674 was stolen, although our 38.5 MW issued worse than the analogue, they are about 33 approximately.
Chinese copy.

[maxim947]

You look at the culture of production, and here is a copy? an order of magnitude, to snap. And what did you fix - steal-steal, steal and do who's stopping? For six years, eight pieces were included in the fleet. Here it is necessary to take an example, and not irony.

[Setrac]

Quote: maxim947

steal-steal, steal and do who interferes

Russia will not sell a license to produce turbines to Russia, because Russia is not some kind of low-power China there.

Quote: maxim947

Here it is necessary to take an example, and not irony.

That is, you do not know at all why we have a delay with frigates? Let me draw your attention to the fact that the Chinese as a class lack multipurpose nuclear submarines - and this is the main non-strategic strike force of the fleet.

[Semurg]

Xerox works at full capacity, in 15 years they will be able to build a floating bridge to Taiwan from their Navy.

[Украинец]

Yeah ... after ten years, America can no longer do anything with China
No matter how they attacked Russia together

[ANCIENT]

So it’s kind of like your paroshenko in our army ended ? Or are you still not up to date? ???

[Украинец]

So Poroshenko finished. The truth is only in your dreams

[Usher]

And then I think Uncle Qin sends Trump. And the Chinese are very fond of the Japanese)))

[ANCIENT]

Well, let the Chinese do the hulls of cruisers or destroyers for us, and we will sculpt the “stuffing” ourselves! And given the absence of corruption on a scale comparable to ours, it will be half the price of each pennant! !!

[donavi49]

So the problem is just the stuffing. Engines + 1 year, posts + 1,5 year, this unit was installed - but the other one, which should be installed first and technologically first, is delayed for 8 months = the whole direction is worth 8 months. Well, etc.

So simple and shaped. When ships are assembled without any special difficulties with cooperation (Chinese / foreign / large-scale domestic komplektuha), then the pace is +/- normal. Longer than others, but tolerant (if you build with others and saturate yourself - it will come out even longer).

[voyaka uh]

In fact of the matter. What is the point of buying a destroyer from China for Russian Caliber if it takes longer to produce one set of these Caliber in Russia than to make the whole ship?

[dvina71]

Quote: voyaka uh

What is the point of buying a destroyer from China for Russian Caliber

Here the Russian Caliber does not give you peace, although we have enough of them .. The problem is not at all in the Caliber. If it weren’t for the Ukrainians, the Black Sea Fleet would have received 6, and not 3 11356x, with the very Caliber.
The problem is that you can fasten the bodies quickly .. how to saturate them? Air defense for the Navy is still on its way, PKK is in the same place .., a break of two decades, in the development of the fleet is not so easy to overcome. If you look at the weapons of the Chinese Esma ... this is the ship of yesterday. For me, it’s better to increase pr.855 in quantity .. than to build such esm.

[donavi49]

Why?
64 universal shafts for missiles of the HQ-9А / В complex (С-300ПМУ + elements Ф + their developments in version В - thoroughly went over the rocket), YJ-18 (their variation Caliber from two-stage anti-ship missiles to 20 or 40km of the final 2М + section and КР long range), PLUR type ASROK.
Plus 24 short-range missiles of the autonomous complex HHQ-10 (analogue of ROME-116).
A helicopter, starting with this destroyer without limits - even the heaviest Z-18.

Yes, this is not Burke / Atago and not King Sijon. But in general, he again should nominally get into the TOP-5.

And 885 boats are more expensive than these destroyers.

[dvina71]

Quote: donavi49

Why?

Because the 40-year-old Ustinov is better equipped and equipped .. well, that's for sure.

Quote: donavi49

And 885 boats are more expensive than these destroyers

When you buy a drill, you do not buy a piece of plastic and copper, but holes. In the case of pr.855 there are more holes, they are more diverse ... and generally better.
As for China .. I agree with you .. when they build a ship at least 50% of their own .. So far, that they have 100% adapted .. from others.

[donavi49]

Ustinov in another category.

If you equate that generation to this:
956 = 052D
1164 = 055 with 112 universal shafts.

And even so, Ustinov + Varyag, Moscow, even with a positive decision closer to 23-25, gets around. China already has 4 = 055 on the water (and the lead one will start testing this fall) and the pile is being built at two shipyards in parallel along the 2 hull.

As for adaptation - the Koreans gathered King Sijon and they are fine. This is the most powerful and armed destroyer in the world now (and the second sub-series on the 3 ship will be even more powerful).

[dvina71]

Do you see what’s the matter .. "Ustinov" with the new launchers, no Chinese, with their most cracked missiles, at their launch range .. simply will not let in .. Is it worth talking about the quantity in this case? I am not opposed to Chinese successes in shipbuilding .. young people .. but they don’t need to be compared in the construction of warships .. Where there are obvious holes, the issue is quickly resolved .. 636 and admirals on the Black Sea Fleet .., and jumping out of their pants to sculpt Esma just for the sake of that they would be .. We are not so rich that we would buy bad things.

[vadsonen]

let the Chinese make us bodies, we’ll sculpt the “stuffing” ourselves ... it will be half as much

Will not work. After all, from the fact that the hull will be cheaper (yes, even for free), a yacht / villa in Europe will not become cheaper, i.e. the cut value should remain the same

[Strips]

Israel shot down a Syrian plane with two Patriot missiles that flew into Israeli airspace
More accurate data coming soon

[Setrac]

Quote: Tiras

Israel shot down a Syrian plane with two Patriot missiles that flew into Israeli airspace

Nonsense, propaganda!

[Masya masya]

and the trade war with the shtatovtsami, it seems, does not interfere ...

[donavi49]

Sanctions - no, no sanctions. There, only for human rights - this is not sanction, but it is.

A trade war with the United States will hit the economy. Shipbuilding will be affected in 5-7 years.

[Sadko88]

These guys are great, of course, but too little experience. Soon our Navy holiday Let's see the parade

[donavi49]

Elongated by 5 meters. Basically, everything went to the helicopter work area. There was an opportunity to work with their promising Z-20 and comfortable without additional restrictions with Z-18.


Prior to that, the modern modifications of the Z-9 and Ka-28 were standard - the heavy Z-8 was only available in good conditions.

[Chicha squad]

Not to order 12 ships from them would be a big mistake.

[Setrac]

Quote: Chicha Squad

Not to order 12 ships from them would be a big mistake.

The comma is incorrectly set

Quote: Chicha Squad

No, ordering 12 ships from them would be a big mistake

[spektr9]

If ships were built from your irony, we would have the first fleet in the world

[Setrac]

Quote: spektr9

If ships were built from your irony, we would have the first fleet in the world

The second in the world is also not bad.

[spektr9]

Only the second one didn’t smell, well, unless of course someone was stuck in the 80s

[Setrac]

Quote: spektr9

Only the second one didn’t smell, well, unless of course someone was stuck in the 80s

And whose fleet is your second?
And where is the Russian fleet?

[Guru]

The Chinese fleet is actively growing, while the ships are not in the near zone. For example, Russia is building up exclusively for the near zone. And those in Russia for the far zone can be counted on the fingers, the rest are waiting in the wings when they put them on needles.

[Usher]

Priorities Since the economy is not rubber, unlike the United States. Everything must be done sequentially. We do not have such a large sea trade.

[kefan]

Yes, there is someone to take an example on the construction of ships, unfortunately

[san4es]

The 14th Type 052D ship was launched at the Jiangnan Changxing shipyard

[Apollo]

China is showing an adult approach, there is much to admire. But in Russia everything is the same. Thanks to the "wise" leadership of the country, such a class of ships in the Russian Navy will soon disappear.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

The ships of this project have been built in China since 2012. Already 8 destroyers are part of the Navy, three are being tested at sea, three more are being completed afloat.

And I would like to write, saying "envy silently," but silently envy is no longer possible.

[voyaka uh]

Sharp. 19 latest destroyers. About one per year. And they generally launch new frigates in pairs every half a year.
No wonder the Americans are strained.

[Mammoth]

Quote: voyaka uh

Sharp. 19 latest destroyers. About one per year. And they generally launch new frigates in pairs every half a year.
No wonder the Americans are strained.

But Israel, like we don’t have anything, and we have nothing to do with the USA ..?

[voyaka uh]

China does not threaten us. And from the Americans we get constant orders (and more) for various ship electronics. Devices, OMS. This is a huge market.

[Dezinto]

But they manage to train military personnel, commanders, officers, sailors, technical engineers at the same pace.?
AND! well, it's China! they are the same geniuses of copying.

[voyaka uh]

Have time. For example, the crews for their aircraft carriers they began to get ready even before the first was ready. They created a life-size ground model (with jumps, elevators, etc.) and thousands of sailors and technicians are driven through it. They even gave out a multi-colored uniform - strictly like the Americans have in Nimitz. The flow of people, the conveyor.

[Mammoth]

Well, the Chinese fellows ..! I envy silently .. But they are still not rivals to Russia, but allies. I really hope so.
It’s useless to fight with Russians, but it’s worth cooperating!

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Mamont

But they are still not rivals to Russia, but allies.

Absolutely not. China is not our ally

[Mammoth]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

Quote: Mamont

But they are still not rivals to Russia, but allies.

Absolutely not. China is not our ally

And some "comrades" really want us to be opponents ..?
Russia is respected in China and Putin often unofficially dodges things (to relax and talk on equal terms))) This is very enraging to the West and for good reason ..

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Mamont

Russia is respected in China, and Putin often unofficially wobbles (relax and talk on equal terms)))

And it already was - they even sang "Russian with Chinese brothers forever".
And after a decade, these same Russians and Chinese fought in battle for Damansky.

[Samara_63]

In general, I only perceive the ground units of the PLA ... Navy - Japan will defeat them alone ...

[DeusExMachina]

The most interesting (and, incidentally, annoying) is the frequency. Very often, news of new ships appears.

[voyaka uh]

Because the Chinese started new ships of the 1st and 2nd class oven, like pies.

[Setrac]

Quote: voyaka uh

Here is a good mobile phone to produce - really cool.

A mobile phone, good or bad - it doesn’t matter, it’s just consumer goods, it’s a telephone in Africa too, there’s nothing technological in it.

Quote: voyaka uh

The turbine blade is currently the most high-tech product of our civilization, "/////
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This is a relatively uncomplicated product.

This "simple product" is made in a few units of countries, and all these countries are highly developed in scientific terms, and mobile phones are riveted by anyone who wants to have cheap labor.