Why F-35 for Turkey can leave the US sideways. Pentagon vs. Congress

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The US Secretary of Defense declares that he is ready to defend a deal with Turkey as part of a program to create and transfer to the Turkish Air Force X-NUMX fighter jets. We are talking about the program F-5, according to which the Turkish military has already begun in the United States to learn how to fly on these combat vehicles. After the training operation, the aircraft, under the contract, must be transferred to Ankara. This is opposed by representatives of the American Congress.

Why F-35 for Turkey can leave the US sideways. Pentagon vs. Congress




James Mattis appeals to the congressmen, stating that it is impossible to disrupt the deal with Turkey.

From the statement of the head of the Pentagon:
I am currently opposed to withdrawing Turkey from the F-35 program. Turkey is our ally in NATO, having invested a billion and a quarter dollars in a program from 2002 of the year. They plan to buy from us to 100 aircraft. If the Turkish supply chain is disrupted today, this will lead to a break in the aircraft production schedule, delaying the delivery of 50-75 F-35 and will require approximately 18-24 months to restore work.


The US Congress ponders these words. American parliamentarians can not decide to approve the deal with Turkey because they suspect Ankara of their readiness to transfer F-35 technology to Moscow. And in this situation, even the Turkish billions do not entice congressmen to buy the latest fighter jets. But intervenes weapons a lobby that does not want to lose profits. The Pentagon also fears that in case of refusal to supply F-35s to Turkey, it might make a demarche inside NATO, which will come out sideways for the United States.
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  1. +1
    24 July 2018 09: 14
    At the Pentagon, rightly feared .. Come from realities ...
    1. +5
      24 July 2018 09: 29
      US parliamentarians can not decide to approve the deal with Turkey for the reason that suspect Ankara of readiness for F-35 technology transfer to Moscow. (from text)
      If the Russian special services deign to “spy” the F-35 technologies, then with a high probability I assume that they will do without the Turks. sad
      1. MPN
        +4
        24 July 2018 09: 48
        Yes, we do not need their technologies, if we sell their technologies on the Su-57, it will increase by an order of magnitude in price. But the characteristics of avionics well would not hurt ...
        1. 0
          24 July 2018 13: 13
          Quote: MPN
          Yes, we do not need their technologies, if we sell their technologies on the Su-57, it will increase by an order of magnitude in price. But the characteristics of avionics well would not hurt ...

          We need their technology! For a successful fight with their F-35.
    2. +1
      24 July 2018 10: 42
      They are afraid of a training battle between the F-35 and the S-400 ... Ours are not afraid, and the Americans are very worried ...
      1. 0
        24 July 2018 11: 48
        As a result, “friendship” wins .... babosiks above all!
  2. +6
    24 July 2018 09: 16
    Gee-gee, the F-35 has already begun its war. But for some reason, not on the side of NATO. Probably their 5th generation is too smart - she chooses the side on which to fight. It reminds the story of the "smart bomb", which they could not push out of the plane. wassat
    1. +1
      24 July 2018 09: 26
      Quote: Yrec
      Gee-gee, the F-35 has already begun its war. But for some reason, not on the side of NATO. Probably their 5th generation is too smart - she chooses the side on which to fight. It reminds the story of the "smart bomb", which they could not push out of the plane. wassat

      True, Israel is not a member of NATO. And the 35th is already working.
  3. 0
    24 July 2018 09: 26
    That's right, do not give the Turks Fu-35.
    "Matches for children is not a toy."
    These flyers will receive, imagine themselves invincible Jedi, will unleash a new war with someone.
    So it’s calmer for everyone if they fly “in the old way”, more peaceful people will remain alive. Yes
    1. 0
      25 July 2018 17: 11
      And in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yugoslavia, too, the Turks unleashed a war? So the Turks will manage without this pepelats. Although I add that Turkey has every right to F 35, as it is one of the developers! And at the expense of matches ... I would not call the children of a nation that ruled half of the World.
      1. 0
        25 July 2018 17: 53
        Quote: KURT330
        . I would not call children a nation that ruled half the World.

        Have you tasted that such nonsense is !!! belay laughing
        When, where and which of them owned half of the world?
        Go and learn "materiel", historian akhovy !!! laughing
        1. -1
          25 July 2018 18: 12
          Quote: K-50
          Quote: KURT330
          . I would not call children a nation that ruled half the World.

          Have you tasted that such nonsense is !!! belay laughing
          When, where and which of them owned half of the world?
          Go and learn "materiel", historian akhovy !!! laughing

          Here, History will recall the fears of all Europe against a possible Turkish invasion.
          In the 20s of the 17th century. France submitted to the Turks after the threat of invasion, and in 1666. the English trembled for fear of the same. These are the old fears and dictate to them the need to race .... to honor Turkey.
          1. +1
            25 July 2018 18: 34
            Quote: Karenius
            In the 20s of the 17th century. France submitted to the Turks after the threat of invasion, and in 1666. the English trembled for fear of the same. These are the old fears and dictate to them the need to race .... to honor Turkey.

            How much is France and accused of? You write that the Turks owned half the world !! Even the Russian empire, as the largest of the states, did not own so many !!
            To me it is monopenisual who and to whom obeyed three hundred years ago. There the scale is smaller than the Krasnoyarsk Territory at times, and you "owned the floor of the world."
            1. -2
              25 July 2018 19: 54
              Actually, I write from the side. But let me remind you that the Sultan recognized only the Bey in the French king, and wrote that when his first warrior enters Paris, the latter will still be in the Bosphorus.
              So, my enemy, the Turks, didn’t embellish anything.
              ____
              I also have a lot of odnopenisualny that does not fit into my ideas.
  4. 0
    24 July 2018 09: 29
    Inzherlik or F-35? Good question ... Real tsuzwang.
  5. 0
    24 July 2018 09: 59
    Let these planes be sold at a double price to the Saudis or Israel, and they will receive the money (maybe), and the planes will be saved with a profit for themselves (it can also be) !!!
  6. +3
    24 July 2018 11: 17
    Congressmen (deputies, senators) are not much different in different countries. But the Americans have surpassed everyone and are already slipping into the Ukrainian version - in spite of the grandmother's frostbitten ears. And this applies not only to the aircraft.
  7. 0
    24 July 2018 11: 46
    American parliamentarians can not decide to approve the deal with Turkey because they suspect Ankara of their readiness to transfer F-35 technology to Moscow.

    And we are not afraid of the transfer of S-400 technologies? Even if exported.
    1. +1
      24 July 2018 11: 55
      Quote: Mikhail M
      And we are not afraid of the transfer of S-400 technologies?

      So, it seems that we were not talking about technology transfer, only about complexes and that’s all ...
      1. 0
        24 July 2018 13: 58
        I agree, initially the suppliers of S-400 were agreed ... Technologies will not be transferred !!!
  8. +2
    24 July 2018 12: 28
    F-35 - this is the Yak - 141 seized in the 90s, there is nothing new there. Only the Yak-141 was supersonic, and the F-35 turned out to be an imperfection.
    1. 0
      24 July 2018 13: 50
      From Yak (the plane was excellent), only the nozzle turned 90 degrees downward. Instead of two additional jet engines in the bow of the Yak, the F-35 has a fan driven by an engine.
  9. +1
    24 July 2018 13: 38
    The inevitable will come. Islamist Turkey Erdogan is not suitable for NATO. Either the military did overthrow Erdogan in a more successful coup attempt (according to Ataturk’s precepts), or the paths diverge.
    1. 0
      24 July 2018 20: 20
      eccentric, what is Islamism? Erdogan’s party is quite right-wing conservatives adjusted for national features, well, they don’t go to Catholicism, since they are in nature.
      the military has not overthrown anyone there, this story is over.
      it’s funny when an Israeli appeals to the Ataturk’s covenants. Do not tell me what is written in the ataturk tablets?
      and by the way, NATO is a military bloc, not a humanitarian community that brings gospel values ​​to the world. and from a military point of view, Turkey is one of the key countries for the bloc, so Erdoогan will be tolerated there.
  10. 0
    24 July 2018 13: 51
    American parliamentarians can not decide to approve the deal with Turkey because they suspect Ankara of their readiness to transfer F-35 technology to Moscow.
    Why do they need us? We have a Su-57, a cheap one with well-established production, and the LTX is better !!! lol
    1. +1
      24 July 2018 14: 02
      "We have a Su-57, a cheap one with well-functioning production," ////
      ---
      There are 12 prototypes, only the last three of them are similar to pre-production products. There is no production yet. The price of the aircraft is two to three times higher than the Su-35.
      Su-57 is still "in diapers." It will be a long time to debug and improve it.
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