Europe from the bus window. Part of 2. Houses and roads

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Here is the house,
Which was built by Jack.
And this is wheat,
Which is stored in a dark closet
In home,
Which was built by Jack.
S.Y. Marshak. The house that Jack built


So, we continue the story about how we can see Europe from the window of a sightseeing bus. However, about this a little later, but for now I want to start with my childhood memories, because as a child, you always perceive everything very sharpened, you can say, you absorb life experience with all the fibers of the soul. For the first time outside Penza, moreover, so that it is deposited in the memory, I ended up in 1962, when my mother took me to Gurzuf, in Crimea. It is clear that all the way I did not move away from the window, and looking into it, I saw exactly the same wooden houses as those that surrounded me in my Penza. Yes, and I myself lived exactly the same ... With conveniences on the street, like my comrades - the neighboring boys.




Rural house near Penza on the bank of the Sur reservoir. As you can see, everything is modern, the house is beautiful, but “some of the goodness” (that is, the unwillingness to finish everything as it should be) is still evident. Look at the fence. Well, that with such a house they could not find money to equip it?

However, when I woke up in the morning, I saw instead of the buildings I was familiar with with fences of slab and rotten planks piled next to them, neat stone, cleanly whitewashed houses, with stone fences of front gardens with flowering arbors, neat paths, lush in green gardens. “And we drove into Ukraine,” Mom explained to me. “Almost everyone here lives this way!” And yes, indeed, then I was repeatedly convinced how strikingly different is the housing of the villagers-Russians and the houses of the inhabitants of Ukraine and the Kuban. As if in another country. We all slap somehow, and there - neat and beautiful. “Probably, their climate is better!” - a thought flashed through my head, because then I couldn’t imagine any other explanations for myself.

However, the beauty of the houses of the South of Russia and Ukraine faded in front of me when in 1968 for the first time I was abroad outside the USSR, in Bulgaria. We traveled by bus from the Golden Sands area to Sunny Beach, and along the highway stood sturdy stone houses with terraces, masonry of “wild stone” and colored bricks, under tiled roofs and that was amazing for me - they all belonged to the peasants. That is, in my understanding, people who are able to build something similar to houses in Ukraine or in Anapa, but no more. And here…


Obviously quite old Czech house in one of the villages along the road.

When I asked our guide about this, a student Ivanka from Sofia University, she answered me very seriously that for a Bulgarian the main thing is home. That when he clears his field of stones, he builds a house and fences of them, and the whole family takes care of the beauty of his home. Moreover, she even drove me into one such house and there inside I saw a simple, home-made, “poor” (as it seemed to me then!), Unpolished furniture, self-woven mats and floor mats, homemade earthenware.


A small rural house not far from the Pajero tourist center on the Belarusian-Polish border.


Another peasant dwelling ...

And then ... then we again returned to Russia and behind the windows the wooden shacks built aby as. And already in an adult state, constantly rolling around to Moscow, then to Samara to graduate school, I always saw this poverty around me and thought, this is how you should not love yourself in order to live in this ... “structure”. What kind of people are these “cokies” who live in these houses? And then the 1991 year came and I already had to drive around the region to agitate the “classroom” to come to our university and… along the highways there were all the same gray three-window houses with curved fences, rickety barns, in which half of the roof is covered with iron, and half slate, and we shed barn and all the boards in it are different! No paths or beds for you, but rusty iron in the form of wrecks of tractors and automobiles - in bulk.


Most rural homes in Poland are like this.


And the field is right there, under your arms!

Slowly, slowly, but the situation began to change! Now driving through the surrounding Penza highway, I see that ... yes, the three-window huts are still standing. But almost always surrounded by new mansion houses in two or even three floors, with fences of wild stone, bars, and who is poorer - of metal and mesh-rabbits, behind which are tidy yards and flower gardens, but old needies are no longer visible. It is possible that there are settlements where the three-window wreck still dominates. But along the Penza highways, they are more likely a rarity than a throwing element of modern rural life. And all these changes have occurred over the past 17 years, because before this massive construction in my area I did not notice something, but my view is very sharp.


Enough impressive house.


And this one too ... However, there are still not so many of them. Not more than a third.

Well, now that there. Again, there are many people in VO who traveled to the same Poland both on buses and on their own cars, and they will confirm that the 80% peasant houses along the roads there are new, high-quality buildings, very clean and neat, and around them there is not even a smell of any kind of food. Near the fences rotten "dostochki" no lie, nowhere debris. Either a lawn in front of the house, or a neatly trimmed green lawn. The fields are nearby, and by our standards they are pretty tiny. But ... again - these are fields, not weeds and not weeds!


Very modern church.


And this one too ...

In every village - the church! And not ruined like ours, and only half restored, but either old, but repaired, or even new and of such architecture as the temple of God, it has very little resemblance, but all the same - “the new house of God”! Those that would need major repairs, I have never seen anywhere else!


No less modern homes by the road. Do you remember the dictator Berzelius Windrip from Sinclair Lewis's novel “It is impossible with us”, who declared that he would like to live by the road and be a friend of the people? I, too, would not refuse to live by the road in such a house ...

How do their cottages differ from ours? Well, it is clear that I do not compare them with the houses of our nouveau riche, where the three floors on 150 “squares” are not so “cool”, where the 5 pool on 5 is “so-so”, but I’m talking about the houses that stand along the roads. So our homes visually more !!! And as a rule, it is a rectangle, while the Poles have smaller houses and are more square in plan. Two windows usually go out into the street, although there are also houses of considerably larger sizes. 80% of houses in two floors. Obviously there are “poor houses”, but there are very few of them, so few that I could only take pictures of only one, and that one was stone!

In Hungary, houses in the countryside are somewhat more modest than in Poland and the Czech Republic, with many old and already quite blackened tiles. An interesting feature of the Hungarian rural houses is that they are turned to the road sideways (butt), and not the facade. As a rule, there are two windows on the road, or even one ... guest rooms, which are mostly empty. There is a corridor along the whole building, and doors to rooms from it. Outside is a veranda giving shade.

Well, at home in Croatia please the eye with new tiled roofs, lots of flowers in the courtyards, and on the coast with palm trees. And again, they are not too large in size, although on the island of Krk in Nivica just beautiful mansions were built, but comfortable for life. Considering all this, one wonders the question arises, how long has it all been built. All these apartments for rent to tourists, cozy bungalows ... You ask, and you will be told that after the 1991 of the year, and even later, after the Serbian-Croatian war of 1991 - of the 1995.


House for two families at once.

And here I again remember our Abkhazia. Was there somehow shortly before the Olympics. It is a multi-storey building, some of the floors are burnt out, gaping with empty windows, the rest live. Question: “Why is it so?” Answer: “And we had a war!” So, when you had one, you could have rebuilt everything. They shrug their shoulders ... Last year there was a daughter with a son-in-law, they picked up a rotavirus infection, almost all the guts in the toilet did not leave. “Did you not know that the sewage of mini-hotels was put directly into the sea?” They did not know! And another question - is it that the local sun so relaxes people or is it a particular local mentality? But the Croats are also hot, the same sun, why have they not seen any traces of war?


Two orderly squalid house immediately one after the other. But all is better, than huts from the railway sleepers impregnated with creosote ...

And again, why it is possible to say that there are practically no houses left in ruins, although the countries are not rich in mineral resources like our country, but we began to build up only now, and they managed to do it much earlier?


Typical Polish rural landscape.

However, houses of a very, very ill-fated kind can be found both in Hungary and in Slovakia. But only live in them ... Roma! As elsewhere, they profess a rather antisocial lifestyle, they drop out early to study, are engaged in petty fraud and live on welfare, because the governments of these countries are recognized by the indigenous people of these countries and as such by the laws of the European community, are obliged to help them. They cultured their culture in order, they speak local languages, but they don’t want to change their behavior and lifestyle. The locals do not like their behavior very much, but nothing can be done - tolerance is a necessary attribute of living in modern Europe.

To be continued ...
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  1. +11
    27 July 2018 06: 04
    I honestly do not understand why the author is so trying to admire? Well, yes, we know all this and have seen more than once. Another thing is that you see all this from the bus window, and try to settle in this village for a week at least. HERE then you will find out all the charms.
    Last year I lived in an Italian village in a suburb of Rome. So here. When I was looking for housing, I saw heaps of photos and even looked at all this through Google maps and I liked everything. Just awesome, cozy houses with courtyards with lawns and so on. However, when I rented such a "house" - it turned out that this is a 4-apartment house, with apartments of approximately 50 square meters. And all around the houses are basically the same. Moreover, in reality, these houses are partially with peeling paint, long unrepaired tracks and not very high quality asphalt.
    I don’t know how in Italy, but in Spain there are very severe fines if your house looks bad from the facade)))
    1. +24
      27 July 2018 07: 39
      indeed, the author would live in our village and try to make a stone house with a lawn ... it was always strange how in our country rich in resources, people live poorly, in principle the answer is known, the question is more of a rhetorical one.
      1. +13
        27 July 2018 10: 26
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        indeed, the author would live in our village and try to make a stone house with a lawn ... it was always strange how in our country rich in resources, people live poorly, in principle the answer is known, the question is more of a rhetorical one.
        -Yes, it’s not a matter of money - but with respect to property. Sweep the paths and weed out the grass does not cost a dime ... Handing over the old rotten Gazontorchashy in the middle on metal - they will also give money, let it be worth it ... Burn rotten boards from which obviously nothing can already be done, impossible: you are human, what if must will be ??? to take out manure from the backsides, in general a grave sin !!! You che ??? !!! (taking into account the fact that there is also rubbish dumped in the garden, you can’t use it: glass / covers / tin) "What if I put it in the garden? !!"

        It’s just there - “This is MY house”, with us in the USSR- “House? Collective farm”. Will someone around someone else's good care just like that ??
        Even now, after 30 years (soon already), approximately 15% of houses in large settlements do not have an owner, in rural areas it can reach up to half (differently, but even in the Moscow region, about 6% for their land prices). the same with land.
        "Why am I going to draw up ?? !!! then I will have to pay taxes !!!" - a favorite excuse.
        Then the truth runs around with bulging eyes - it happens .... Dad / mom died, no one entered into the inheritance (also sacred - "Why then, nobody will drive me out of the house !!!!"), the papers were lost ...
        Hence the attitude to the house ....
        And there - this is real estate, this is money. Here they are trying to have the maximum price - if suddenly it imputes. Well, it’s nice to live
        1. +10
          27 July 2018 13: 54
          Everything is exactly as you wrote! First, the instinct of the owner was repulsed from people, but now it’s hard to instill it again. And when you say to people that everything, "the collective farm is over!" - offended, again want to irresponsible common fund.
          1. +1
            29 July 2018 22: 27
            But no one knows how much effort and money the villager spent and spends on processing his hectare. This happens after he comes home from work. Before dinner she rushes into the garden. Often only with the tool that a hundred years ago - a chopper, rake, shovel, scythe. rural incomes are small, the garden feeds families, and forest harvests are also coming into play. And one hundred is often much more than six, this is not a summer residence. And often the convenience in the yard is not because the owner is dumb, but because at least water supply is needed. Not to mention gas. Give the peasants the opportunity to earn, and his plot will be exemplary. Removing rusty metal is also not so simple. On what? where? You can give the gypsies old pots, but a big one! From the window, everything does not look exactly like it really is. And comparing the center of Russia with the Kuban is also stupid. Build from material, which is a lot around. In the center is a tree. In the south - stone and clay, and the clay is whitened. Here you have clean neat elegant houses. with mallow.
            1. 0
              30 July 2018 09: 46
              1) all the more or less reference owners already have the equipment. Dunce to dig 40 hundred square meters under a potato with a shovel - long gone ...
              2) water supply. In central Russia, even if it is not there, no one has canceled the wells, but to throw the pump in there and upload it to the barrel / tank, there is no problem at all.
              3) with gas is really problematic
              4) just whistle — that you have more 0,5 tons of scrap — they’ll come and take it with great pleasure !!! yes, they will pay cheaper - but who doesn’t let the big grinder cut it into small pieces. We take 10 rubles from the place- for Lawn, obviously more than 10 000 rub ...
              Quote: housewife
              Give the peasants the opportunity to earn, and his plot will be exemplary.
              - how? didn’t think - why in all world agricultural subsidized in large states? there is no way to become a millionaire engaging in small medium agricultural !!! No !!!
              1. 0
                30 July 2018 15: 49
                Ha ha ha What are you talking about? 1) Reference hosts - who is this? Due to circumstances, she lived for 5 years in rural areas. The village is about 7000 people. Household plots from 6 acres to 15. I had 2 plots in my possession of a total of 17 acres. In autumn, the husband hired a tractor driver with a tractor, it plowed all in less than an hour. Then winter came. And in the spring ... a chopper and a shovel are our tools. At neighbors of 7-8 acres, everything was dug by a shovel. The tractor was not allowed to enter their sections. And you, apparently, do not mean plots of land, but plots of land, 40 acres to hectares. People live with them, sell products, have large greenhouses, a farm, gardens, process vegetables. Like those western farmers. And who are you comparing? People in the village work from 8 in the morning, get up at 4 o’clock, have time to work on their sites, then to work, then in the evening at least another hour to catch another in the garden. Yes, thanks, we were cut another hour of the evening, with a simple translation of the arrows. Yeah, some have walk-behind tractors, but yes they will. And you still need to break the beds, plant the grown seedlings, fertilize, spray, spud, tie. Well done Poles with Czechs - "the lawn is sowed" and there are no problems. And the housewives still need to wash, cook, wash the dishes, run to the store. And for the men - one thing to fix it, then cut firewood and chop. In short, loafers are everywhere, but there are few of them.

                2) Water. Three years ago pipes were drawn through the streets. But there is still no water. Wells. Depends on the terrain and the water layer. I have a well with a pump there. It was once manually digged by my husband’s parents. We have mountains. A rock. The water went at 16 meters depth. Very clean, but harsh to the point of horror. Boil a glass of water - sediment a teaspoon. First you need to boil the water, then cook something on it. The neighbors have different wells - from 5 meters to 12. In summer, the water leaves. This summer there were only 3 big rains and as many small ones. The neighbors have no water. There is one in our well. Now estimate how much water you need to water at least 4 acres. Especially if you can not water cold. Scooping from barrels with a bucket.
                3) This year, gas was carried to all the villages of Adygea, now people spend in the yards. Without water. That is, at least there will be heating and a stove. In other places I don’t know.
                4) Honestly, I have not seen anyone have a large accumulation of scrap metal. Somehow they rent out. In other places, I don’t know.
                And the last one. To peasants - this again does not mean a personal plot. Namely, large farms. The peasant works for a large strong economy, receives money and improves housing. Small and weak households - get and housing in the form of pimped. There is nothing to repair and improve, especially building a new one. And you describe exactly small households and Czech farmers. He has no household plots. Here is the house. Outside the window, this is the work.
                1. 0
                  31 July 2018 10: 28
                  Quote: housewife
                  Due to circumstances, she lived 5 years in the countryside

                  48 I’ve been living in such a village for X years, 16 people, kitchen gardens from 000 to 3 hundred, work like everywhere else in the country, garden in the morning and evening
                  Quote: housewife
                  This summer there were only 3 large rains and as many small ones.
                  -this year was 1 (ONE !!) rain in early may and all
                  Water for irrigation - or water supply or wells up to 40 (!!!) meters - higher is salty. This is not hard .... you poured the earth five times and everything is ready

                  we are discussing different conditions, you write about the mountains, I'm talking about the steppe
      2. +4
        28 July 2018 12: 18
        With the current salaries and pensions of the common people, 12-15 thousands cannot be configured. But the deputies, officials, and a variegated thief manage to build several palaces in Russia and abroad
        1. +1
          30 July 2018 09: 47
          Quote: Alber
          With the current salaries and pensions of the common people, 12-15 thousands cannot be configured. But the deputies, officials, and a variegated thief manage to build several palaces in Russia and abroad
          -and who did not restore order at home at the USSR? Also, then the salary and pensions interfered ??? !!!
      3. +3
        29 July 2018 20: 38
        He served in Bolgrad 90-92. The local population is Bulgarians. Every morning, the residents began to clean their houses. They even swept the carriageway of their homes. It's not about the money, it is about attitude and responsibility. We have shown over the mailbox the unfortunate people living in supposedly emergency houses. And who brings these houses to an accident? Is it really difficult to plaster a piece of wall at home yourself, replace the outlet, stick even the cheapest wallpapers, replace the rotten board on your porch? Devastation in the minds.
      4. 0
        31 July 2018 23: 43
        the author is not aware that in the USSR it was impossible to obtain building materials for a private house through an official way, and if he built something unusual, they will come to you from the UBC and ask - where did he get it, etc. My grandfather was the chairman of a collective farm and could build a noble estate for himself, but he lived his whole life in a chicken coop. Although I don’t understand why he didn’t want to make himself at least partially a stone house - there were stones in the district.
        1. 0
          6 August 2018 15: 36
          No need to tryndet! It was just necessary to save statements and invoices. Well, of course, that would be the number of bricks converged purchased in the masonry. such questions for the head of the collective farm were really just a spit. if he didn’t build, then probably just because he was happy with everything already. For extracts and invoices, this was already the level of head of warehouses that were subordinate to him. He needed only to say and pay money to the cashier! U!
          1. 0
            6 August 2018 15: 38
            maybe in Ukraine it was like that, but in my city it was possible to fly out not only from the party for the construction of the "petty bourgeois" house, so even the management of large enterprises had chicken coops.
    2. +18
      27 July 2018 08: 39
      All this bullshit is "coexistence" from poverty. And that’s it.
      1. +6
        27 July 2018 10: 21
        This is the correct remark. But where does poverty come from in such a rich country?
      2. +24
        27 July 2018 10: 32
        Quote: Max Otto
        All this bullshit is "coexistence" from poverty. And that’s it.

        Absolutely.
        And the houses were unpretentious in Russia in the 1960s, unlike the Ukrainian ones, not because the Russians built it somehow, but because Russia was LAPTED for 70 years in favor of all kinds of Ukraine.
        Smolensk village (40 houses), Vyazemsky district, 1965 year: no light, no gas, no roads, no shop, nothing: you go out in the evening and it’s not clear: either the 20th or 16 century. In Ukraine and Moldavia this was already not the case.
        By the way, real ukromazanki in many ways in the outsole not suitable for a real Russian five-wall.
        1. +7
          27 July 2018 13: 08
          Robbed not only Russia. My mother-in-law told me such things, I’m not a local one, they settled in Belarus somewhere in 1980. So they poked around and ate some quinoa until they left for virgin lands in Kazakhstan. So there they only normal white bread and began to eat. And her parents returned to Belarus already in the 80s to retirement and with money.
          Yes, and as I grew up in the GDR, I was crazy at first. I even had to get used to food laughing
      3. 0
        31 July 2018 23: 45
        not so simple. not just out of poverty. people were spinning in their surroundings, knew little of the other, and it just didn’t occur to them that it could be built differently. In general, there was a mass of slingshots along the way, even if there were suitcases of money.
      4. 0
        6 August 2018 15: 37
        Nope, from laziness!
    3. kig
      +1
      28 July 2018 09: 03
      Quote: AwaZ
      why is the author so trying to admire?

      the author does not admire, but is perplexed.
      1. 0
        31 July 2018 07: 46
        winked What is this bewilderment? He says that in Russia people are uncultured, lazy people are not educated, they shit everywhere and at home, but here in Europe people are like that: hardworking, smart, beautiful, etc. It’s shorter that the Cossack was sent, he’s got only one dew !)))
        1. kig
          0
          1 August 2018 01: 11
          Quote: SLAVA
          He says that in Russia people are uncultured, lazy people are not educated,

          I just drove into the search for "uncultured idlers", etc., and they were found only in your comment. By the way, about "not educated": in your case, this word should be written together.
          1. 0
            1 August 2018 07: 34
            if there is a contrast in the text or increased denial.written separately!
            1. kig
              0
              1 August 2018 08: 05
              well, no, here you clearly had in mind a person without education, ignorant, stupid - that is, uneducated. And why do you love our people so much?
          2. 0
            1 August 2018 07: 35
            and not ham, but you will not be ham!
  2. +6
    27 July 2018 06: 10
    Quote: AwaZ
    I don’t know how in Italy, but in Spain there are very severe fines if your house looks bad from the facade)))

    Post you a photo of our houses, which from the facade look nothing at all, but ... are they? Now compare the wealth of Spain and the wealth of the Russian Federation. There is no asphalt there, paths are paths in the ground, and the area of ​​apartments ... 16 sq.m. There is a difference?
  3. +7
    27 July 2018 06: 17
    I was very surprised ... It turns out that a huge number of houses in Europe are made .... From manure ... Not from adobe ... Namely from manure ... And whitewashed with lime ...
    1. +3
      27 July 2018 06: 36
      Not one has seen such. It would be interesting to see their photos.
      1. +5
        27 July 2018 07: 40
        Quote: kalibr
        Not one has seen such. It would be interesting to see their photos.

        full of such in Germany, he saw.
        1. BAI
          +2
          27 July 2018 09: 03
          Yes, these - with beams on the facade. The aggregate between the beams is manure.
        2. +1
          27 July 2018 10: 35
          Quote: Vard
          I was very surprised ... It turns out that a huge number of houses in Europe are made .... From manure ... Not from adobe ... Namely from manure ... And whitewashed with lime ...
          -adobe!!
          lime doesn’t go to where it’s not getting-specific material. Even with a non-good adobe it can crumble
      2. +3
        27 July 2018 10: 42
        Quote: kalibr
        Not one has seen such. It would be interesting to see their photos.

        Half-timbered houses in Germany, etc. : frame of beams, filling with adobe material (and with manure too), brick, etc.
        1. +8
          27 July 2018 12: 19
          Quote: Vard
          I was very surprised ... It turns out that a huge number of houses in Europe are made .... From manure ... Not from adobe ... Namely from manure ... And whitewashed with lime ...


          and adobe what do you think ????? this is clay material - clay, sand, necessarily straw and very little manure (for ductility). Without manure - the adobe crackes, moisture gets into cracks and tears in winter. That is why the adobe is necessarily smeared with clay from above and whitened - filling in pores / cracks. ..
          Beneath Lviv was (I don’t know right now) an adobe castle - a very large one, which the hell is how old.
          Saman (if there were more racks) - it would be an ideal building material, it keeps the temperature for itself, you can build anything from it, in the adobe house until mid-summer (with ours + 40) it is cool, natural ventilation

          ZY I live in the adobe house, that's why I know everything about it ...
          And you are “Dung !!” - oh, right now ...
          1. +3
            27 July 2018 12: 27
            Quote: your1970
            and adobe what do you think ????? this is adobe material

            WHO denies this? belay lol
            I answered comrade SHPAKOVSKY, not you.
            Quote: your1970
            Saman (if there were more racks) - would be an ideal building material

            He is perfect, just mortally afraid of water. To prevent-the grid and on it-plaster c / sand r-rum, above the foundation-waterproofing
            Quote: your1970
            I live in an adobe house, that's why I know everything about it ...

            I live TENS myself Yes
          2. 0
            30 July 2018 16: 06
            I don’t know how much I saw how the adobe was made - there was no mention of manure. And nothing there vomited in the cold.
        2. 0
          27 July 2018 13: 10
          Half-timbered houses in Germany. Such seen, of course. But there is no manure, far from it. Adobe. By the way, now in the same Hungary only a rich man can afford to live in a house with a reed. And before that it was the roof of the poor!
          1. 0
            27 July 2018 16: 02
            Manure ... Not an adobe ... the guide told ...
            1. +1
              30 July 2018 09: 48
              Quote: Vard
              Manure ... Not an adobe ... the guide told ...
              -you just fool fool -a not the guide caught, alas ....
      3. 0
        29 July 2018 22: 30
        Do you know old postcard houses, white, brown beams crossed the walls? So, they are not even from manure, that is, waste from a cow, they are from human waste. lol
        1. +1
          30 July 2018 12: 23
          Irina, these are fantasies, moreover, they are very stupid! All this would have decayed long ago.
          1. +1
            30 July 2018 13: 07
            human waste in nature goes to dust, almost to zero - in a dry area for a week. This is utter nonsense !!! consider that IT will last at least a year ...
            And adobe lasts for centuries:
            "A striking and eloquent example of such a structure is the 2-storey earth-moving castle" Priorat ", located in the city of Gatchina (near St. Petersburg). This castle was built in 1798g a talented and famous architect - architect N. Lvov, at the behest of Emperor Paul 1. The castle had the height of the walls 9,6m(this is the question of the strength of adobe !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!), and at the wall of the first floor the thickness was 78cm. The following interesting fact is extremely important, the fact is that the castle was plastered only after 100 years. "


            1. +1
              30 July 2018 15: 58
              Sorry, I don’t know what "earthly" is. Maybe the same thing as adobe. She lived in the adobe house since childhood.
              1. 0
                31 July 2018 10: 18
                “Earth technologies” and adobe are one and the same.
          2. 0
            30 July 2018 15: 55
            And what do you believe my word, don’t believe me! Find out, look, read. Make sure. Nothing has rotted. They also knew what to mix with so that it was strong. When she found out she was in shock. I can’t indicate the source, I found out too long. And then I heard about it again in the film, where Posner and Urgant traveled around Germany. Write to them, tell Pozner that he is not smart. laughing
            1. +1
              30 July 2018 18: 09
              Saman and manure are two different things. We are talking about this. But there are people stupidly claiming that the Germans built from feces. Well, they want to be even cooler. So. Like, we have logs, and they have ... shame. Just something their shame and pure and beautiful, and the logs - you look and rotted everything.
              1. 0
                30 July 2018 19: 15
                yes to me, honestly, German drum houses. And "pure" Europe is even more so. It is their business - what, how and from what was built.
  4. +5
    27 July 2018 06: 25
    In fairness, it is worth noting that we can also get a flyie for mowed grass near the fence or a landfill.
    1. +2
      27 July 2018 06: 39
      It pleases, although I have not come across this. There is a photo of a huge pile of shit on the beach in Saratov on an island in the middle of the Volga. I shot it last year. Nearby people sit, eat, children play ... My head goes to my dacha and says, mow the grass near the fence. Well, I mowed ...
      1. +7
        27 July 2018 06: 48
        In the private sector, the district warden has such powers.

        Why piles of shit on our beaches, streets and courtyards is a topic for another study.
        I believe that there can’t be any solution without a Mauser and jacket. Some, for example, mow grass because it is necessary and that it was beautiful, and some - because they are told wink
  5. +8
    27 July 2018 07: 31
    Again V. Shpakovsky seduces us with the West, showing only a showcase. There is another side there laughing
    1. +9
      27 July 2018 09: 08
      I have not seen such! And is it exactly in Germany? And what% of such shacks are there and here? It is interesting.
      1. +1
        27 July 2018 10: 44
        Quote: kalibr
        I have not seen such! And is it exactly in Germany?

        Type in the search engine "Shacks of Europe", and still not see this. And what you posted, and we have beautiful cottage villages.
      2. 0
        27 July 2018 21: 51
        So cottages not yet cleaned after winter look.
    2. +8
      27 July 2018 10: 37
      it’s not about seduction, but in relation to life. There they live - FOR YOURSELF (and your descendantsand we - like tramps, tumbleweeds - and even the grass in the yard is too lazy to weed out many- "it will grow again in a week !!!"
      1. +1
        27 July 2018 10: 41
        Quote: your1970
        They live there - FOR YOURSELF (and your descendants

        So for yourself or your descendants? Do you understand descendants as refugees from African, and not only countries? laughing
        Tell me, what joy is it for the German burgher to take care of what he will leave as an inheritance to the African from Zimbabwe?
        1. +6
          27 July 2018 12: 27
          the burgher knows that his HOUSE costs money, and the better it is, the more expensive. And the money will go HIM children ...
          1. +3
            27 July 2018 13: 11
            Quote: your1970
            And the money will go to his children ...

            Which children? Same-sex can not multiply laughing
            1. +5
              27 July 2018 13: 20
              Quote: Boris55
              Quote: your1970
              And the money will go to his children ...

              Which children? Same-sex can not multiply laughing
              - funny ... I’m afraid that we will see more - how the burghers are cutting refugees on the orders of the next Fuhrer ...
              if you give the go-ahead tomorrow - that there will be nothing for the beatings of refugees, and moreover, the government directly orders, I think refugees all in a couple of days will be marked ..
              1. 0
                27 July 2018 13: 49
                Quote: your1970
                I’m afraid that we will see how the burghers slaughter refugees on the orders of the next Fuhrer ..

                Do you think that Europe brings from the kindness of the sincere refugees? Yes, because the local population is dying out, the local population does not want to reproduce. The cult of individualism does not provide for posterity and care for it. There is simply no one to work elementarily.
                And at the expense of who will cut whom, it’s the grandmother said in two. I don’t know how in Europe, but in the USA pale-faced people are already openly sent to Europe.
                1. 0
                  28 July 2018 21: 47
                  Quote: Boris55
                  Do you think that Europe brings from the kindness of the sincere refugees? Yes, because the local population is dying out, the local population does not want to reproduce.

                  some wrong refugees have chosen. no more normal nations to invite?
                2. 0
                  30 July 2018 09: 36
                  Quote: Boris55
                  Do you think that Europe brings from the kindness of the sincere refugees?
                  -those. what will be - I have almost no doubt. The question is - when and together with whom (but they can be managed on their own)?
                  Hitler had already contrived to 1937 all those who disagree so to thin out - that there was no one left. Or do you think that now there is nothing to promise the Germans - that they began the second round of extermination ALL dissenters / with other eyes?
              2. +2
                27 July 2018 16: 05
                A couple of days ... It is unlikely ... They got everyone there so much ... That they will manage in the evening ... They will start in the afternoon and in the evening they will finish the last refugee ...
                1. +1
                  27 July 2018 17: 18
                  Type in the search engine "Shacks of Europe"
                  meaning? what are the "shacks"? Germans are driven from apartments by Arabs, “Frau” and “Froilians” in the streets “come”, the boys in the pools ... romance ... Germans again look to the east, but in the sense: “they would shelter” ...
                  1. +7
                    27 July 2018 23: 55
                    Have you read military reviews?

                    laughing
    3. 0
      27 July 2018 23: 51
      This is most likely a summer residence partnership.
      Why in this form request .

      Most likely the former.
      Those. it was normal and then the city “cut” the land for other needs and then something didn’t go.

      In general, on the "wild" rights now, former summer residents, while the excavator will not drive.
  6. +5
    27 July 2018 08: 32
    The author wants to see his country beautiful ...., commendable ... Through the glass, everything looks better. But blaming compatriots is the last thing ... there are too many reasons why houses look so unpresentable .... and they cannot be eliminated at a time. In Russia there is no tradition to live in a house ..., there is an apartment, a cottage ... but there is no HOUSE, the Western tradition has always assumed a HOUSE, but not an apartment, the house naturally involves land .... but there have always been problems with the land .. .. that under the tsars, that under the Bolsheviks, about the democrats and communists you can not talk at all. investment in land, a house is an investment and, as they say in the West, it’s probably the biggest one in the life of an average person ... therefore this attitude to the house is also unfortunate in Russia, and few people could afford to get in touch with the state ... maybe it’ll get better now .... we'll see.
  7. +4
    27 July 2018 08: 37
    why ... Look at the world through the eyes of a tourist and a resident - these are two big differences.
  8. +6
    27 July 2018 08: 51
    Money and courts treat the problem of mess and dirt, in the west .... Russia simply hasn’t matured before it, it has no legal protection, there is no investor protection, the biggest market in the west is real estate, and attempting to sell the home’s value is a very serious crime ..., regardless of material and social status, property is sacred, a homeowner is a status, and it is very significant, and it makes life very easy, a house is capital ....,
    1. 0
      31 July 2018 15: 27
      Quote: wooja
      home is capital ....

      but usually not yours. or taken on credit or as collateral. everything seems beautiful, and it’s like yours, not yours wink
  9. +4
    27 July 2018 08: 59
    The author once again beguiled tourism with emigration, forgetting that the tourist route does not imply a demonstration of broken primers and rickety shacks.
    1. +2
      27 July 2018 09: 05
      The Penza-Moscow highway is quite indicative. Is not it? So to compare that on the sides of the road is quite possible!
      1. +6
        27 July 2018 09: 13
        Quote: kalibr
        The Penza-Moscow highway is quite indicative. Is not it? So to compare that on the sides of the road is quite possible!

        What is significant? Is the Penza-Moscow highway a tourist route? What to compare? I can also upload photos with three-story mansions with gilded peacocks at the gates, or log chambers with carved platbands and palisades, photographed in all kinds of "muhozasizhenskie" in Russia, and I can upload pictures of all kinds of huts built by the dendrofecal method in the metropolitan region of prosperous and rich Japan. That's just to mean it will be exactly them .... nothing, like your comparative fabrications on the topic of comparing Russia and Europe.
        1. +1
          27 July 2018 09: 20
          That is, is it all built on purpose? To show?
          1. +2
            27 July 2018 09: 28
            Something to show, that it looks good only because the owner receives subsidies to maintain a good appearance of the housing, it’s only because the owner is afraid of heavy fines for an untidy type of housing, something looks good because the local administration helps with the repair to maintain a beautiful tourist picture, that something looks good because it is a means of making money from tourists ... and so on and so forth, there are many reasons why something looks good and something does not look very good, but Vyacheslav Olegovich for some reason chose 2 faces from all variety.
            1. +5
              27 July 2018 10: 01
              Let all the reasons that you named will be with us, right? And let there be the same houses everywhere. Not with peacocks on 150 squares of three floors, but comfortable houses, without the rotten boards piled up in reserve at the fence and the "amenities" sheathed with a rotten roofing material. And let the administration, as you say, help. I will only be in favor. For two years, I drove a lot on EU roads and rural roads (our tour operators love to ride on them because it’s free !!! 52 people are witnesses with me!), And I would have shot the huts, had no doubt. It's always interesting to compare. But ... did not see. And what I saw - in the photo. And I emphasize - all these are rural houses, not urban ones. Belonging to the peasants of Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary ... Croatia. And again - this is in the article - we also have such ones and their number is growing. After 27 years, the level of accumulation allowed us to take up housing!
              1. +4
                27 July 2018 16: 38
                Quote: kalibr
                Let all the reasons that you named will be with us, right?

                Let be.
                Quote: kalibr
                And let there be the same houses everywhere.

                Let be. But who told you that they have such houses everywhere?
                Quote: kalibr
                comfortable houses, without rotten boards and “conveniences” sheathed with rotten roofing material piled up in reserve at the fence.

                I see these constantly from the windows of trains or buses in Russia.
                Quote: kalibr
                For two years I drove a lot on EU roads and rural roads (our tour operators love to ride on them because it’s free !!!

                You didn’t drive along rural roads, but simply along free roads; there is no bus on the rural roads there.
                Quote: kalibr
                and I’d take pictures of the coat, do not hesitate.

                I doubt it.
                Quote: kalibr
                all these are rural houses, not urban. Belonging to the peasants of Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary ... Croatia.

                AND? I was on a farm a couple of years ago, so your Polish-Hungarian-Croat peasants would have expired with envy saliva along roads, houses, fences ...
                1. +4
                  28 July 2018 00: 10
                  Quote: Rakti-Kali
                  on rural roads there the bus will not squeeze.



                  On such roads where the "bus will not squeeze" and will not build houses. Why build a home away from social infrastructure?
                  The owner is responsible for the order on the private plot with the house, and the architect of the area is responsible for the development.

                  And all this is followed by a bunch of laws. And try them either (the owner of the house or the architect or the construction manager or an employee in Bauamt) do not comply wassat .
                2. 0
                  29 July 2018 22: 22
                  Is that where the peacocks are at the gate? Well, yes - the height of prosperity. Culture is rushing!
          2. +9
            27 July 2018 09: 49
            Quote: kalibr
            To show?

            Banner houses appear in Russia, in any city before the arrival of a high-ranking official, officials cleverly thought out why they should demolish dilapidated housing, because the residents need to be given new ones, and so the shack turns into a solid house.

          3. 0
            28 July 2018 10: 03
            It is not built for the show, but the excursion route is laid out along beautiful well-groomed places. Yes there are beauties and even poverty. To see the real Europe, you need to move away from the excursion routes and there is not a fact that the difference will be big and far from the fact that they have better.
  10. BAI
    +2
    27 July 2018 09: 07
    Good houses in Russia are in the North and South. Why the middle band is in a miserable state is really incomprehensible.
    And garbage is a problem of vast distances and territories. In Europe, everything is at hand and under control. But in Russia, throwing something away is not a problem, the problem is then to find this garbage until the mountain has grown.
  11. +1
    27 July 2018 09: 18
    Quote: wooja
    There is no tradition in Russia to live in a house.

    Dear, what are you writing ??? Is there no tradition in a peasant country to live in a house? And what do our peasants live in villages along roadsides?
    1. 0
      27 July 2018 09: 51
      a house is not considered as capital, as an investment, as a monetary asset ..., only the financial aspect, and they naturally live in houses
  12. 0
    27 July 2018 09: 42
    Quote: BAI
    Good houses in Russia are in the North and South. Why the middle band is in a miserable state is really incomprehensible.
    And garbage is a problem of vast distances and territories. In Europe, everything is at hand and under control. But in Russia, throwing something away is not a problem, the problem is then to find this garbage until the mountain has grown.

    Have you been in the middle lane for a long time? Visit Lipetsk, for example, or the Voronezh region .... the middle is not the middle lane, but much will surprise you
    1. BAI
      +2
      27 July 2018 12: 06
      I sinfully live in it. Lipetsk and Voronezh - not the middle lane, this is the black earth, already the South.
  13. +3
    27 July 2018 09: 52
    Quote: Rakti-Kali
    I can also throw pictures for you with three-story mansions with gilded peacocks at the gate, or log chambers with carved platbands and palisades,

    Do you think that this is an indicator of high culture and well-being of the bulk of the rural population of Russia? Do you need gilded peacocks at the gate? In my opinion this is the height of bad taste.
    1. +4
      27 July 2018 16: 41
      Quote: kalibr
      Do you think that this is an indicator of high culture and well-being of the bulk of the rural population of Russia? Do you need gilded peacocks at the gate? In my opinion this is the height of bad taste.

      Wagging of sirloin started again? Either you don’t like hacks, or peacocks didn’t please ... You’ll decide whether you will remove the cross, or you’ll put on your underpants.
  14. +1
    27 July 2018 10: 04
    Quote: wooja
    a house is not regarded as capital, as an investment, as a monetary asset

    That's bad!
    1. +4
      27 July 2018 10: 08
      Moreover sad ...
  15. +1
    27 July 2018 10: 19
    Quote: Rakti-Kali
    but I can upload pictures of all kinds of huts built by the dendrofecal method in the region of the metropolitan region of prosperous and rich Japan.

    Let's! It will be very interesting to see. I, however, have not been to Japan, but there was my graduate student who traveled precisely through the Japanese outback and took off a lot of things. Now she has her own center for learning Japanese and she goes there every year. I will show her your photos ...
  16. +3
    27 July 2018 10: 22
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    the author really would live in our village,

    I lived ... from 1977 to 1981 — the worst years of my life!
    1. +1
      27 July 2018 12: 13
      Quote: kalibr
      I lived ... from 1977 to 1981 — the worst years of my life!

      And indeed, such a wretched education laughing
      1. +2
        27 July 2018 13: 04
        Yes, to teach English at that time to rural children was like throwing beads in front of piglets.
        1. 0
          27 July 2018 14: 14
          Quote: kalibr
          Yes, to teach English at that time to rural children was like throwing beads in front of piglets.

          What for? Why learn a foreign language at school? 99% it’s never useful in life, but with modern technology and electronic speech translators - it is not needed at all in FIG. laughing

          When they learned French, the French pinned themselves, then we visited them. Then German was popular - the Germans pinned down, then we visited them. Now we are learning English - to whom this time we are going to visit? laughing
          Yes, I forgot to mention about the Poles
          1. +3
            28 July 2018 00: 18
            "Another known foreign language - and your worldview is enriched for the whole world"

            Don’t know?
  17. +1
    27 July 2018 10: 23
    Quote: tasha
    and some because they are told

    Right! It was necessary before, but all hands did not reach. But they say to many, but they don’t!
  18. +1
    27 July 2018 11: 16
    A strange article ... the author seems to have fallen from heaven ... He tries to find the person who is to blame for the Russian mentality. We all know very well why there are housing problems in Russia. Anyone who manages to escape from the clutches of an all-devouring thief, first of all, tries to rebuild. There are plenty of examples. Another thing is that the architectural culture in Russia is rotten, and the appearance of the new cottages is entirely dependent on the amount of dough.
    1. +3
      27 July 2018 12: 31
      Quote: Atenaia
      Anyone who manages to escape from the clutches of an all-devouring thief, first of all, is trying to rebuild. There are plenty of examples. Another thing is that the architectural culture in Russia is rotten, and the appearance of the new cottages is entirely dependent on the amount of dough.
      -And the old Soviet "25-series" (kolkhoz semi-quarters) also a thief dirtied ?? or was there a rotten architectural culture under the USSR ??
      1. +1
        27 July 2018 13: 02
        At the beginning of the film "The Irony of Fate" this "culture" is shown very well!
  19. +10
    27 July 2018 13: 07
    I sympathize with the author. I understand what he wanted to say. But everything is against him. The tourist bus window does not provide the best overview for comparison and far-reaching conclusions, although some points can be captured. The VO site is not a favorable platform for discussing even those “certain points” that are caught from the window of a tourist bus, because there are many personalities for whom it’s quite comfortable to squat in a hole upholstered with a holey roofing material, discuss global problems and give advice to neighboring nations how to equip the world. Noc est veritas, as the ancient Latins said.
    1. +5
      27 July 2018 13: 48
      Here I am with you, Viktor Nikolaevich, I agree completely. Yesterday I wrote about the stomp upstairs ... Today on the stairs, which leads to the floor above the traces of the tumultuous gastric activity of the tenants there. I photographed just in case, but I will not post it yet. This is the question of being, which defines consciousness ...
  20. +7
    27 July 2018 13: 14
    - Yes, the worst, very scary, very very scary ... is that in the huge, enormous, territorially richest Russia, all houses are literally right next to each other ...
    -What kind of innate sense of herdness ..?
    - Damn .., you are leaving the city for 100 ... 200 .., 300 km .. and everything is the same ... - all the same houses stand and literally "look" into the windows one to another ... -What is the point to live in a vast space, far from the city and so crowded .., right side by side ... --Yes, what is it in the end, after all ... just some kind of idiocy ...
    -And here are two neighbors ...- friends or foes contemplate someone else's life through the fence right from their porch ... -even they can even talk directly ...- without leaving their wings ...- or quarrel ... - They just stick their nose all their lives ... one to another and climb into all the intimate details of life ... one to another ... -and so terribly interfere and poison life to each other ...- from generation to generation ... Is this the way it should be ..? -Just horror and a continuous nightmare ...
    -It would be my will .., then I would simply forbid to stand at home in Russia at least closer than 100 meters ... from each other ...
    1. +1
      28 July 2018 00: 30
      Quote: gorenina91
      If it were my will .., then I would simply forbid to stand at home in Russia at least closer than 100 meters ... from each other ..



      So study as an architect.
      then break into the main architects of the city (village (joke)) and break through your idea.
      Take control of your life.
      1. 0
        30 July 2018 09: 53
        Quote: Simple
        then break into the main architects of the city (village (joke)) and break through your idea.

        the vacancy of the chief architect of the district hangs for a year
        Quote: gorenina91
        -What kind of innate sense of herdness ..?
        - a sense of security, not herdness ... our village is against NOT ours ... and when a neighbor in 100 meters, he is already psychologically not a neighbor, but ... a stranger ... will he fight for you? question ...
        1. 0
          1 August 2018 11: 15
          Quote: your1970
          the vacancy of the chief architect of the district hangs for a year



          But not everyone will be accepted for this position. specific work especially in Russia.
  21. +2
    27 July 2018 13: 17
    Quote: Boris55
    so we have beautiful cottage villages.

    Of course have! % Is important. Already wrote about this. There countries are poorer, and% of such houses are higher and much more. We are a rich country, and% of such villages and houses, alas, are less than theirs. And it should not be so.
  22. +2
    27 July 2018 13: 18
    Quote: Atenaia
    Tries to find the blame for the Russian mentality.

    Where is it? Just describing what I saw.
  23. 0
    27 July 2018 14: 55
    Quote: BAI
    I sinfully live in it. Lipetsk and Voronezh - not the middle lane, this is the black earth, already the South.

    Respect for fellow countrymen .. well, yes, Chernozemye .. I agree, but in the non-Chernozem region too, there is a beautiful and tidy .. much changes
  24. +3
    27 July 2018 15: 14
    The housing issue spoiled not only Muscovites, but also Russians ... yes, you can build a house, in many regions there are many different programs, but if paper haemorrhoids were still removed, it would be easier to lower the percentage (well, it's on the verge of fantasy) and average salary level raise ... oh, what I dreamed ... a fantasy ..
    1. 0
      30 July 2018 12: 13
      Quote: Andrey VOV
      oh, what I dreamed ... a fantasy ..

      and that’s true, for us, for the people, they can only raise the retirement age
  25. +3
    27 July 2018 15: 47
    Well, houses in Croatia are pleasing to the eye, first of all, with new tiled roofs, lots of flowers in the courtyards, and palm trees on the coast. And again, they are not too large in size, although on the island of Krk in Njivice just beautiful mansions were built, but comfortable for living. Considering all this, the question arises inevitably, and how long it was all built. All these apartments for rent to tourists, cozy bungalows ... You ask, and they will answer you that after the 1991 year, and even later - after the Serbian-Croatian war 1991 - 1995 year


    Actually, Croatia is now not a European country as a poor country. Where tourism is developed, first of all, we are talking about those coastal cities and villages where a lot of people go to relax in the summer, outwardly everything looks very bad, and where there are no tourists, everything does not look so beautiful and well-groomed.
  26. 0
    27 July 2018 16: 00
    Author, go and live in Ukraine, why do you press brains of the people and are nostalgic, like an institute.
  27. -1
    27 July 2018 17: 14
    Russia colony of America since 1993 All the riches of our country go to the benefits of their Negroes. Negroes are appeased and bought in order to unite the country, as the Soviets bought from us. outskirts. Recently, in connection with the withdrawal of industry to Asia, the number of people in need of assistance is growing. Therefore, the robbery of our population in recent months is prescribed to increase. The government of Medvedev, carrying out commands from the metropolis, raises VAT and arranges pension reform. I wonder where the people get money for improvement ?. That's how we live. Now working white Anglo-Saxons began to buzz, as in the Russians in the USSR in the late eighties. It’s not so long to wait for the collapse of America. In the meantime, we need to learn from Europeans how to spend money when this money enters massively among our citizens. Everything flows, everything changes.
  28. +3
    27 July 2018 17: 32
    In Russia, apart from the south, long winters, spring and autumn are also cold, and a private house needs to be heated. And a lot of things to build to repair. A peasant needs a business, young, and mistress in a traveling house. And for this we need a family, family tradition, father son, son-in-law daughter. Father's house is the foundation of the basics. There are no such traditions, well, very few. Here are the girls, the boys prefer a one-room apartment on credit, a single mother in a high-rise building. Here is the ideal and the village is empty. And to build a cottage now by the river not far from the highway is not a problem for a peasant in Russia.
    1. 0
      30 July 2018 12: 10
      Quote: Vlad Petrov
      In Russia, not counting the south, long winters, spring and autumn are also cold, and a private house needs to be heated

      The fact of the matter is that our OWN gas is very expensive or the salaries are too small (underline as necessary). The mention of both of these for our government causes a sour face on the face. And some also offer three jobs to pull, then people don’t have anything to do, to rest, and sleep enough - the ultimate dream.

      py si
      Gasification in Russia more or less went only in the 2000s, and then there was a little coal and firewood.
      1. 0
        30 July 2018 15: 23
        You can mechanize and optimize the entire heating process. The boiler room in the house, behind the wall under the roof, is a warehouse of firewood and coal, right there on the street is the place of unloading of firewood. Coal during combustion in a heating boiler gives a high temperature and dries firewood, a pile of dry firewood half a bucket of coal is an excellent result.
        1. 0
          31 July 2018 18: 17
          Quote: Vlad Petrov
          The boiler room in the house, behind the wall under the roof, is a storage of firewood and coal, right there on the street is the place of unloading of firewood

          there is one trouble - nobody carries coal to us (unprofitable) and the firewood doesn’t grow-the steppe. And if it weren’t for gas, there would be a good scribe
  29. 0
    27 July 2018 22: 04
    Good pictures, good advertising of foreign tourism. Advertising article, no analysis, no clear expression of thought. Yes, a tourist is pleased to see. And what is beyond the tourist routes, the author is not aware. So, the article is an advertisement of European tourism. Go, see and despise our lives. Maybe the author is invited to organize tourist buses in the cottage villages near Moscow or in the suburbs of St. Petersburg. There is nothing to remember Russian flycatchers. The author is biased towards Russia.
    1. +1
      29 July 2018 12: 12
      I thought smart readers at VO more ...
  30. 0
    28 July 2018 12: 40
    Shpakovsky subtly wraps)))) ... we know such mice
  31. +2
    29 July 2018 08: 05
    A normal fence around the site in the first photo will cost nine hundred thousand for materials and a week of work, if together with an intelligent assistant to do, there’s no fence. Or "hands do not reach. More important things are for sure
  32. 0
    29 July 2018 12: 18
    Quote: Rakti-Kali
    Quote: kalibr
    Do you think that this is an indicator of high culture and well-being of the bulk of the rural population of Russia? Do you need gilded peacocks at the gate? In my opinion this is the height of bad taste.

    Wagging of sirloin started again? Either you don’t like hacks, or peacocks didn’t please ... You’ll decide whether you will remove the cross, or you’ll put on your underpants.

    It is you who will decide what to think about such simple things. But still I will explain - EXTREMES HARMFUL. Got it?
  33. +4
    29 July 2018 17: 07
    I read the article .. and comments on it. And I agree and disagree. He served in the GDR in the army and at least he saw a little but did not meet the dilapidated housing there. In small towns and villages, cleanliness and order. The houses (outside) are clean and well maintained. at 6 in the morning, the owners will groan and clean each outside their house on the street.
    I have been living in the USA for more than 20 years. There are also beautiful, cleanest villages with well-groomed lawns, even marked asphalt, etc. ... All this is achieved through supervision from the "Association of the homeowners of the village" (village self-government) which sets the rules for cleanliness in the villages and monitors their implementation. This is done so that scruffy houses or cluttered yards do not reduce the cost of houses in the village. So that I, as a homeowner, do not lose my investment in the house. In such villages it is forbidden to have mowed grass, rubbish or broken cars in the front yard .. nothing should spoil the appearance of the village. Otherwise, fines, in the flesh until the confiscation and subsequent sale of the house.
    There are also whole towns where the bulldozer is homesick for homes ... and from the roads there are only primers and or continuous holes on the asphalt. I myself live in such a town, though in a more or less normal area. In the north of the USA, houses (and roads) are in much worse condition due to the climate. In the south (North Carolina and south), roads are much better (there is no winter and salt is not strewed onto roads), houses are much better and there is more land around them, although they are found and slums and "trailer parks" where people live in trailers 3m x 20m. It all depends on the economic situation in the village ...
    There are also endangered empty villages. With rickety huts
  34. 0
    29 July 2018 22: 23
    Quote: Rakti-Kali
    You didn’t drive along rural roads, but simply along free roads; there is no bus on the rural roads there.

    And they do not go through the villages? Photos why posted? Or do I look and do not believe my eyes?
  35. 0
    30 July 2018 00: 21
    Quote: Olgovich
    Smolensk village (40 houses), Vyazemsky district, 1965: no light, no gas, no roads, no shop, nothing: you go out in the evening and it’s not clear: either the 20th or the 16th century. In Ukraine and Moldavia this was already not mentioned.


    The smaller brothers had to be supported. Now they thanked them. Generally infuriating is this nagging comparison - the Russians have everything somehow, but in Ukraine doll huts and beauty. Bullshit, and bullshit performed by those who have never compared live in real time the life of the outback in Russia and Ukraine. I compared, because had the opportunity to travel a lot and in a couple of weeks he could visit the Smolensk region, then in the Orsha region, then near Lviv, and then in Bessarabia with Moldova. So, such poverty, devastation and squalor as in Bessarabia was not seen even in the most, godforsaken corners of the Smolensk region. And houses from dung in Ukraine are still considered a good option. The devastation and dirt near Berdichev, which I saw, is generally beyond competition, there is nothing to compare with. That’s what the residents of the outskirts really do better than the Russians, because it’s self-conceit. Here, as they say, that is - that is.
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    30 July 2018 12: 03
    "but we started to rebuild only now, and they managed to do it much earlier?"

    Different salaries by region with almost the same prices for everything. And what will a person spend his pennies on food or on building materials? In the USSR, every year my grandmother bought a can of paint and painted a fence and a house, prices then allowed, now such a rarity. They mainly repair houses for young people, and then all the relatives are involved, both husband and wife. Mostly sheathed with siding and a fence made of metal profiles.
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    31 July 2018 17: 17
    I live on the border with Poland. Belarus I travel to Poland not so often, but regularly. I see everything, and that which the author showed, and something groomed and uncomfortable. But!!! The main housing fund was built in the years 60-80. There are very few new buildings! They are there, but they are immediately customized for specific needs. Since Poland has become a European trading hub, there are a lot of parking lots under the trucks in the villages. Fields are well-groomed, there are also weeds, because they have private ownership of land. But they try to live within their means, and this implies a complete cut in spending.
    But what I saw in Lithuania was startling and unpleasant. The villages begin to bend, it is clear that young people are leaving the hinterland instantly. True, I saw the borderland, but according to the locals, and in all of Lithuania such a cripple.
    There are no good and bad, there are workers and lazy people. Four years ago I went to see my relatives in Bashkiria. Let's go to the village on vacation. In the village, which was dying three years before, the THIRD selmag was opened! Agrotourism began to develop, and cows reappeared, houses were built or new ones were built, and the old ones were substantially rebuilt ...
    There is only one question: is there a future or not?