The Russian Federation continues to increase its gold reserves. In case of a world economic war?

Having got rid of significant amounts of US debt securities (in recent months they were sold for the sum of 80 billion dollars), Russia continued to accumulate gold reserves in its vaults. We are talking about the so-called monetary gold, the volume of which in June grew by another 0,8%. In real terms, the increase was about 15,6 tons.

At the beginning of July, as the statistics of the Bank of Russia shows, the volume of gold in reserves of Russia amounted to almost 1944 tons. This suggests that since the beginning of 2018, the Central Bank has purchased more than 105 tons of gold.

The gold reserve of Russia is growing in recent years. So, in 2015, he added more than 17%, in 2016, about 14%, last year - 13,87%. In the current year, it is planned to remain on indicators of at least 10% of the growth of savings in monetary gold.

Today, gold at the Central Bank quotes is traded at 2500,18 rubles per gram. After the multidirectional movement of its value, gold in international markets has "increased" by almost 7,6% in a few days.

Experts are guessing what plans of the Russian authorities may be related to the tendency to dump the bulk of American securities (now they are not in Russia for 100 and deprive billions of dollars, but for less than 15 billion) and at the same time increase the gold reserves. One of the versions: a safety cushion in case the commencement of the US “against all” trade war leads to another global economic crisis, as a result of which goods may once again end up at one of the leading places in the economy. Another question: will gold become that commodity? But, ultimately, gold in the medium term will definitely not lose the function of providing money supply for most economies of the world. By the way, the other day the US president announced that he intends to increase the volume of duties on Chinese goods in the amount of up to half a trillion dollars. And this is actually the entire trade turnover between China and the United States.

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[Thunderbolt]

Soon in the shops we will not pay with paper, but with Putin's gold chervonets.

[Svarog]

Quote: Thunderbolt

Soon in the shops we will not pay with paper, but with Putin's gold chervonets.

Elite will pay with gold pieces of gold, and people with food cards ..

[Sergey ippon]

do not wait, it's not the Soviet Union!
you will die of hunger and your children - no one will give you a card.
this is capitalism, every thief and piece in itself.

[Totah155]

Are you sure that you will not begin to look for it as "Party Gold"?

[210ox]

Soon we won’t see any money at all in stores .. A digital economy, however .... There is a question about markets and other small things ...

Quote: Thunderbolt

Soon in the shops we will not pay with paper, but with Putin's gold chervonets.

[ZAV69]

Why soon? In fact already. The only places where the entrance is clean are minibuses and the market. All stores already have terminals and accept plastic and telephone units. We are proudly small, I walk more often, I had months when I didn’t even have a look in my hands

[Vadim237]

They have terminals for cards - but you have a choice, if you want to pay with cash.

[210ox]

Not yet. The tenants didn’t deliver at all points .. Here today I went to the market, and there the ATM was hanging .. Sberbank, his mother.

Quote: ZAV69

Why soon? In fact already. The only places where the entrance is clean are minibuses and the market. All stores already have terminals and accept plastic and telephone units. We are proudly small, I walk more often, I had months when I didn’t even have a look in my hands

[Patriot5000]

As they explained to me about ATMs. Stupid people shove money there with paper clips and pins. The ATM fails. Instantly. For a small town where only 5 pcs. ATM machines. and where the technical horseradish get this is a problem.

[Andkor1962]

What nonsense to write! We do not have a small city, and nowhere (absolutely) there is no problem than paying in cash or with a card. Guys are a troll.

[Lord of the Sith]

Greetings Dmitry
The physical volume of gold in international reserves in recent years has grown steadily:
2006 - 402 tons,
2007 - 450 tons,
2008 - 519 tons,
2009 - 637,6 tons,
2010 - 789,9 tons,
2011 - 883,2 tons,
2012 - 958 tons,
2013 - 1036 tons,
2014 - 1207 tons,
2015 - 1415,2 tons,
2016 - 1614,3 tons,
2017 - 1838,2 tons.

[figwam]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

The graph shows that gold is accumulating due to the approaching war, so that later it would be possible to pay for the purchase of weapons or raw materials.

[Lord of the Sith]

Because of the danger of depreciation of the dollar.

[figwam]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

Because of the danger of depreciation of the dollar.

And the depreciation of the dollar just leads to the start of the world war, otherwise the dollar cannot survive. This USSR went missing without harming anyone and even created and gave independence to many states, and the FSA is better to drown the whole world in blood, but they will cling to the last with their satanic claws to stay in this world.

[Lord of the Sith]

I will continue your thought. Because of the danger of dollar depreciation and the growth of US debt, the United States is looking for a way out in a military conflict.

[figwam]

Lord of the Sith

Yes exactly.
And the fact that our Jewish non-friends have already begun to criticize the purchase of gold by our state here suggests that this is exactly what should be done.

[Lord of the Sith]

Do not criticize, but envy. Russia bypassed China's gold and foreign exchange reserves, which many here admire.

[atalef]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

Do not criticize, but envy. Russia bypassed China's gold and foreign exchange reserves, which many here admire.

In Canada, as an example, Israel and many, many countries with a high standard of living and generally do not have reserves in gold.
AND?????

[Dart2027]

Quote: atalef

and generally there are no reserves in gold

While they are provided by the USA.

[Stiletto_711]

Quote: atalef

In Canada, as an example, Israel and many, many countries with a high standard of living and generally do not have reserves in gold.
AND?????

And if anything, then he will come to you

[Inok10]

Quote: atalef

In Canada, as an example, Israel and many, many countries with a high standard of living and generally do not have reserves in gold.

... and yet the whole globe should open his mouth and drool to look at Canada and Israel ?! ... Hello Lexander Batkovich ... We haven’t come to our table for a long time ... something like the replenishment of the Gold Reserve of Russia has permeated you ...
P.S. ... Sanya ... I put those pluses ... I understand that you won’t accept it, it’s not kosher, but you yourself are not a Jew ... ... how’s the Energy in Israel, although what I’m asking about ... without a phase, like without water and not here and there ...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Sith Lord

I will continue your thought. Because of the danger of dollar depreciation and the growth of US debt, the United States is looking for a way out in a military conflict.

Yeah, but they have no one to fight. Those who could be plucked with impunity were almost gone. It would be more expensive to get involved in a war with Russia or China, so they turned their eyes to Iran, but even then they couldn’t get an easy walk and did not solve the problem with debt and the dollar. In the US, debt is over 20 trillion. In Europe, debt is comparable to American. In total, there are so many global debts that they cannot be repaid by anything at all, and therefore we need a global financial crisis that will lead to the collapse of the entire existing financial system and zero out all debt. It seems that the US itself is more interested in the dollar falling and being replaced by a new payment unit. Trump almost destroys established economic ties with the EU and China, which will almost certainly accelerate the crisis in the global economy. Probably in anticipation of future changes and is buying up despicable metal.

[Vladimirsky]

Quote: Sith Lord

Because of the danger of depreciation of the dollar.

Like 10 years ago, everyone is intensely waiting for the dollar to wither away, nodding at its "depreciation" ... Meanwhile, in 2010 an ounce was worth 1130, and now 1230. And its cost is not in the tug. but in the green. E-mine, given the inflation of the dollar, it turns out gold is getting cheaper by itself.

[Simargl]

And if you count differently?
Has the labor intensity of production changed?
Isn't speculative demand up?
So, the $ exchange rate for gold has fallen.

[Vlad.by]

So VW Beatle used to cost 800 green, and now?
This is how the Beatle depreciated!

[Simargl]

Quote: Vlad.by

This is how the Beatle depreciated!

In a state of “as if from a passenger compartment”, he will be like a talking elephant.

[siberalt]

Capitalism in Russia forces the state to buy its own gold for the money of the people in order to save the good of the capitalists in the event of war. Got it, damn it!

[Tusv]

Quote: siberalt

Capitalism in Russia forces the state to buy its own gold for the money of the people in order to save the good of the capitalists in the event of war. Got it, damn it.

In the event of war, only gold works, but in our case plutonium will also work.

[210ox]

If plutonium works, no one will need gold.

Quote: Tusv

Quote: siberalt

Capitalism in Russia forces the state to buy its own gold for the money of the people in order to save the good of the capitalists in the event of war. Got it, damn it.

In the event of war, only gold works, but in our case plutonium will also work.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: siberalt

to buy their own gold for the money of the people,

This is when we owned state gold? Maybe the land was given to the peasants? It was given immediately after the revolution, and then everyone was driven into collective farms and the land was bye bye! Dissenters recorded in fists and for the Urals! So in everything ...

[Vadim237]

Then, when I bought three kilograms in a bank

[Stevev]

"and then they drove everyone into collective farms and the land was bye bye! Dissenters were written in fists and over the Urals" You would have bothered to read something on this issue, except for the Perestroika Light before expressing your opinion

[Xnumx vis]

My great-grandfathers and grandfathers worked for me. They got the land ... And then declared by fists and exiled for the Urals. There is such a concept as the memory of generations!

[atalef]

Quote: siberalt

Capitalism in Russia forces the state to buy its own gold for the money of the people in order to save the good of the capitalists in the event of war. Got it, damn it!

Russia buys gold because it’s easier for them to pay and circumvent sanctions (the sale of T-bills of FRS is also connected with this)
From an economic point of view, the purchase of gold by Russia is one complete loss, since the price of gold has been falling for quite some time.
And on this Russia has already lost in money terms more than 10 lard greens

[Vadim237]

“And on this, Russia has already lost in money terms more than 10 lard greens” Today it has lost, it has acquired tomorrow, and in the long run we are still buying it.

[atalef]

Quote: Vadim237

“And on this, Russia has already lost in money terms more than 10 lard greens” Today it has lost, it has acquired tomorrow, and in the long run we are still buying it.

Long-term
And when do you know that they will be needed?
If they simply lie in gold, then this is simply a net loss.
I don’t understand why to build up the gold reserve and invest money in it - when there is room in the country to invest, develop, build - and not to yell like there is no money - but you hold on.
Money should bring income; buying gold in 2 of the last year is a complete loss.
All other conversations relate to a conversation like - they tried to put us on our knees - but we couldn’t.
Because we were left lying

[Kolovrat Rus]

Well, at least we are lying ... But you are standing on 4 bones!

[konstantin68]

Quote: atalef

From an economic point of view, the purchase of gold by Russia is one complete loss, since the price of gold has been falling for quite some time.
And on this Russia has already lost in money terms more than 10 lard greens

Do not write nonsense. Statistical graphs of gold prices in the direct access. Where do you see the fall of a "fairly long time"?
And how did you calculate how much Russia has lost? I, on the contrary, see that the main purchases were made on antipikes. Then they added, fell again, etc. Normal dynamics, within the limits of market fluctuations. Oil "trembles", by the way, much more amplitudely.
Or is it out of habit, just to write? Say also that gold is less valuable than painted paper or smartphones of a well-known company.

[Cube123]

Quote: atalef

Quote: siberalt

Capitalism in Russia forces the state to buy its own gold for the money of the people in order to save the good of the capitalists in the event of war. Got it, damn it!

Russia buys gold because it’s easier for them to pay and circumvent sanctions (the sale of T-bills of FRS is also connected with this)
From an economic point of view, the purchase of gold by Russia this is one big loss since the price of gold falls for a rather long time.
And on this Russia has already lost in money terms more than 10 lard greens

This is just your opinion. Having nothing to do with reality

http://www.elentur.com.ua/komu-prinadlezhit-i-gde
-xranitsya-zolotoj-zapas-rossii / "Who owns and where the gold reserves of Russia are stored"
From there, "And the Bank of Russia regularly replenishes its gold reserves, mainly physically purchasing ingots from producers within the state"- says Peter Pushkarev, chief analyst at TeleTrade."

Those. purchases are from domestic producers for rubles, and not for currency. And putting this gold in gold reserves, it actually turns into currency. Those. - this is exactly legal issue of currency by Russia.

In addition, gold placed in gold reserves gives Russia the right to produce additional issue of rubles in the amount of the exchange value of this gold.

Those. Gold purchased from its own producer, firstly, supports its own producer, and secondly, the state gets it almost for free, because rubles are paid to the producer and their amount is less than the exchange value of the purchased gold; in the third, the budget is replenished by the amount of tax revenues from producers and the share premium of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation.

In this scheme, exchange losses from the decline in the value of gold in world markets are not involved in any way. If gold was bought up for foreign currency on the foreign market, then yes, losses would have occurred.

And all this has nothing to do with sanctions. If sanctions affected, then the gold reserve would decline, but it is growing.

[Lord of the Sith]

I’ll tell you a secret, Russia buys for rubles from its own mining companies. It buys in small volumes in comparison with production and sales abroad.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: atalef

From an economic point of view, the purchase of gold by Russia is one complete loss, since the price of gold has been falling for quite some time.

Sir, would you at least look at the dynamics of prices before writing!

[Boa kaa]

Quote: atalef

. The price of gold falls quite a long time.

But what about this schedule?

[atalef]

Quote: BoA KAA

Quote: atalef

. The price of gold falls quite a long time.

But what about this schedule?

And why the schedule only until 2011 year?
Sly sir

[siberalt]

In any case, gold is real money, and greens are for equivalent goats. The famous female organ also has its own "equivalent" so what? Now it’s impossible to send anyone far away?

[72jora72]

From an economic point of view, the purchase of gold by Russia is one complete loss, since the price of gold has been falling for quite some time.

Stop carrying heresy, from the age of 14, gold has been holding on. one level, and since 2006, gold has risen in price in three times.

[siberalt]

For heresy, they burned at the stake in the Middle Ages those who spoke the truth, and did not beat their forehead against the floor in religious hysteria. Take care of yourself, dear, you cannot buy health.

[Stevev]

gold is growing steadily in value

[Vadim237]

Gold, like diamonds and other precious metals, is mined in Russia and Russia buys gold abroad. With your money, it’s as if the state is not buying any gold.

[SSR]

Quote: siberalt

Capitalism in Russia forces the state to buy its own gold for the money of the people in order to save the good of the capitalists in the event of war.

Interestingly, "sing")))
Here are just a picture of the Sith shows that some are hoarding and others are squandering.

Quote: Lord of the Sith

It turns out that they saved up Nikolai2, Stalin, Putin, and those who cherished them spent it.

[siberalt]

Unambiguously set off! Five points! But this is estimated by the HSE and other liberoid stray. Watch out! Khrushchev did not even appropriate the golden buttons cut off from the uniform of the late Stalin. But we had friends half the world. And now we feed the oligarchs for more money

[Stevev]

"It turns out they saved Nikolai2 ..." Now I wonder where you saw this on the chart?

[Lord of the Sith]

Good morning, Dmitriy! All right noticed Nicholas 2 wasted, accumulated by Alexander 2.

[Sergey ippon]

Naturally, this gold is only for the ruling elite - no more.
and yes .. due to the rip-off people, but this is a natural process in this feudal system.
having destroyed the USSR, they discarded the development of the country and the planet for 200 years — maybe someone needs it?

[den3080]

Quote: Thunderbolt

Soon in the shops we will not pay with paper, but with Putin's gold chervonets.

so the chervonets have long been in use, but you (for example) put them in a click on the handle of the cart in front of some tape to use the mentioned cart.
Chervonets - evil
five-ruble - silver

piastres piastres

[MPN]

Quote: Thunderbolt

Soon in the shops we will not pay with paper, but with Putin's gold chervonets.

Yeah, they will give out pensions in gold ... They promised ...

[rocket757]

An integrated approach, otherwise there will be no business and there will be no development of the country.
Where is this reasonable balance of interests and actions ??? Espertov, specialists as always full! Advisers damn it, but when failure, collapse, loss occurs, immediately no one who says that it’s his fault, just poke a finger at others!

[MPN]

Victor You are right, of course, but the behavior of our government strongly directs the idea that, for example, in this case it has not decided on the country where it will go robbing the people and therefore accumulates exclusively in gold ... This, of course, I’m not serious, like joking. However, do not you really want to rule a happy state, and not a crowd of beggars?

[rocket757]

Paul I’m not an expert, but even my classical Soviet education has enough to understand that the wealth of the country is not a pyramid made of gold bricks, but everything is built of STEEL and CONCRETE - industrial construction, people who have received a good, necessary education, adequate power, politics working FOR THE COUNTRY!
We need foreign, liquid assets, in an adequate amount .... we do not live in a confined space!
Quite a bit, from what the country really needs, I see with us now! Therefore, I do not believe this power, I do not support it in any way. It’s bad that we still don’t have a real alternative in the political space of the country, therefore the changes \ actions on the part of the authorities are absolutely nasty for the simple, working people! And we practically CAN’t influence these processes!
There was some chance, if you did not shift this power (personalities, not the system), then show it that it was very NOT RIGHT, missed out on the stupidity of so many citizens of our country!
It's a shame.

[MPN]

It is not possible to argue with the obvious !!! You are right Victor!

[AUL]

The state’s gold reserve is, of course, good! But one thing bothers me. If capital (in any form - rubles, gold, bucks ...) lies at home in the mattress - this is a direct loss, like illiquid materials in a factory. Capital must work, spin and make a profit. In the state there are many areas where you need to invest in order to get profit later - this is scientific research, and industrial enterprises, and roads, and much more. Private capital does not like to invest in projects that do not bring quick profits, and such projects are necessary for the state!
I do not call to immediately spend all reserves on such projects, I understand that the state needs to have a solid stash just in case (and, as you know, there are different cases). But just sitting on a pile of gold, like a mean knight, when there are so many problems in the country, I think is wrong. What part of these reserves should be put into circulation - let experts determine.
Notice, I propose that reserves not be retired, health care, the army - this is a separate conversation. I suggest investing in those areas that will be profitable, albeit not instantly.

[rocket757]

I have heard many times the statement that an attempt to put money / resources for building inside the country is like an offer - STEAL! To some extent, it turns out !!! Only this is not a reason to keep money over a hill or state guard !!! This is the reason for law enforcement to work intensively and tear everything sho advocates, and especially raking paws, for all thieves !!!
The question is - who then remains in power and next to her ??? some beckless, because the feeling of the people is that there are thieves almost everything !!!
So guess now - What to do? Where is the truth?

[Tusv]

Quote from AUL

But one thing bothers me. If capital (in any form - rubles, gold, bucks ...) lies at home in the mattress - this is a direct loss, as illiquid

This is how to look at illiquid assets, The fact that the Moscow region is a strategic reserve. He poured it onto a solarium, equipped it with dynamic protection and will stick to the lamb. Once Partners ala hoo, then drive the geese

[AUL]

Well, the fact that the storage base is not illiquid. Illiquid assets - this is what is acquired for production, for example, but lies unclaimed, not paying back the money spent on it. The army has nothing to do with it; in principle, it is a necessary loss for the state!

[123456789]

Quote: rocket757

An integrated approach, otherwise there will be no business and there will be no development of the country.
Where is this reasonable balance of interests and actions ??? Espertov, specialists as always full! Advisers damn it, but when failure, collapse, loss occurs, immediately no one who says that it’s his fault, just poke a finger at others!

Victory has a thousand fathers, and defeat is always an orphan. John F. Kennedy in 1961

[ANCIENT]

Interestingly, does gold also lie in the hold of the cruiser Dmitry Donskoy in the Sea of ​​Japan? According to rumors, nearly 150 billion dollars! !!! And then the Koreans want to lift it without our permission and pick up the load! !!!

[Warrior-80]

It would be nice if, as far as I remember, Gaddafi ended up for the fact that he wanted to introduce the gold dinar in Africa, if the dolar collapses America will fall apart in a few months

[Ros 56]

Soon in the shops we will not pay with paper, but with Putin's gold chervonets

But who will give it to you, dear? Even if they appear, then not for everyone. And your chervonets, as it was, will remain wooden.

[Fungus]

Zolotishko will not hurt. Eternal goods.

[igorka357]

Hrenas two is an eternal commodity, in the desert at +60 .. you’ll take a liter of water per kg of gold from me! This is valuable in peace and well-fed time, if God forbid a world war or nuclear armageddon, it won’t need to be fucked!

[SSR]

Quote: igorka357

Hrenas two is an eternal commodity, in the desert at +60 .. you’ll take a liter of water from me for kg of gold!

Water is a value, a treasure, even if you call it, but a drop of "poison" and that’s all, a kirdyk eggplant. Gold, as a commodity, is valuable in that it does not rust and does not deteriorate. Of course you can’t eat it.

[igorka357]

Water will save your life, food will save your life, clothes will save your life .. gold in the only case will save your life if you exchange it for water, clothes and food ... Notice, exchange it with someone who has all this in abundance! A dying man in the desert will not give you the last sip of water and mountains of gold, the freezing one will not give you the last shirt! And your bones will smolder, and a stainless piece of gold will lie on them!

[rocket757]

Gold can be an eternal commodity, but heavy in every way!
Not much benefit from it, if other countries do not change their financial policies ..... but you can wait for this until the second coming!

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

It would not be in case of a global economic war, but the usual ....

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

It would not be in case of a global economic war, but the usual ....

Don’t hold it, we all die sooner or later

[Senior manager]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Don’t hold it, we all die sooner or later

Particularly in a hurry for a churchyard in the world is not observed.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: St. Propulsion

Particularly in a hurry for a churchyard in the world is not observed.

In ISIS, in Hamas, their darkness. They themselves are already running for distillation

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

It would not be in case of a global economic war, but the usual ....

If we clash with China, then we will purchase aircraft carriers from the Americans under Lend-Lease as much as necessary, and then with a little gold we will raft ...

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Thunderbolt

If we clash with China

I thought the adherents of the "Warrior with China" sect had all died out. Probably the last one left

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

I thought the adherents of the "Warrior with China" sect had all died out. Probably the last one left

I don’t care at all ... I live in the European part of Russia But I often hear the opinion that China is our temporary travel companion and we need to keep our ears sharp, so maybe he should put a bandwagon now, otherwise our Brother will be getting stronger by leaps and bounds, then it can be late and impossible. Although everything is possible for the Russians, everything can be done --- it means we will look into the future proudly and directly. Am I right?

[Vadim237]

China is on the way to us, very difficult conflicts with Taiwan, Vietnam, Mongolia and may be with Kazakhstan.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Thunderbolt

But I often hear the opinion that China is our temporary companion and we need to keep our ears sharp with it.

And if I tell you every day that Martians will attack Russia?

Quote: Thunderbolt

Am I right?

Nope

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

And if I tell you every day that Martians will attack Russia?

No one saw Martian, but we fought with the Chinese. Is there a difference?
It is clear that now the “general line" is like that, they say, we are strategic partners as heaping on America! But everything happened between our peoples in history .... The soldiers of Genghis Khan came to Russia a long way, but the Great Khan made a decision precisely after the conquest of Beijing and there were always Chinese advisers with the army. But it was a long time ago, but the fraternal help of the Chinese people to the Afghan dushmans remember the survivors of that war. Do you think they shot trophy cartridges at our guys from the “captured” Soviet Kalash and DShK? So, no one knows the future, but the past is fraught with forgetting.

[Karenius]

Quote: Thunderbolt

. Am I right?

Stormwalker, slow down, please, I'm recording ... and simpler, so that I can understand :)
And so - if I remember correctly, Henry Kissinger of today's type of Russia predicted the fate of being a satellite in China in the near future.
____
And for gold ... An acquaintance once returned from the board of the Minsredmash and said about Slavsky’s words: "... For the marked period, we mined xxxxx tons of gold over the plan."
I still reproach myself that before his death I did not ask about the interval of this action.

[SSR]

Quote: Thunderbolt

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

It would not be in case of a global economic war, but the usual ....

If we clash with China, then we will purchase aircraft carriers from the Americans under Lend-Lease as much as necessary, and then with a little gold we will raft ...

I understand everything, but with a huge land border, why an aircraft carrier?
So, purely ask.
PS.
For those in the "tank", the border is under the Collective Security Treaty Organization.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote from S.S.R.

For those in the "tank", the border is under the Collective Security Treaty Organization.

And why did we use the SB, Pe-2 and DB-3 in the first half of the Second World War to bombard the Romanian oil fields, although they would be very useful for striking German tank columns and their army rear rushing to the East? To deprive the Germans of oil.
China is laying a “pearl string” on the oil-rich Bl.Vostok. This communication will need to be broken by all possible means and the Chinese Bibika will die out without this share of oil.
And I want to indicate that China will not fight with the United States under any circumstances. They will compete fiercely and fight for bonuses and leadership, but their economies are so in need of each other, so interconnected that they resemble Siamese twins Masha and Dasha. They will divide the world. America will "push" China from the Pacific to Eurasian spaces. Therefore, you have very correctly noticed the land border.

[Professor]

At the beginning of July, as the Bank of Russia statistics show, the volume of gold in Russia's reserves amounted to almost 1944 tons.
To date, gold is quoted at Central Bank quotes at 2500,18 rubles per gram.

It turns out $ 40 per gram or $ 77.7 billion for all the gold in almost 1944 tons. Total $ 77.7 billion For comparison, Apple’s profit in the fourth quarter of 2017 was only $ 52.6 billion This is despite the fact that when they start to throw off a coin on the market, its price will drop by an order of magnitude.

It would be better if they invested in infrastructure.

[glk63]

Very common thought)

[Muvka]

Tell it to those who have a gold reserve like ours and a little more. This is China and several European countries. And after the collapse of the dollar, in case of which this gold is purchased, the apple will fall apart and will be in wild losses. And what is there to compare?
In general, Israel has about 100 billion dollars of reserves. Why do not you invest in infrastructure? After all, Apple is only in the fourth quarter of 2017 .... Well, continue on your own. Why do you need reserves?

[Professor]

Quote: Muvka

Tell it to those who have a gold reserve like ours and a little more. This is China and several European countries.

Really. Let's look at the gold reserve of the countries of the world.
Top Ten:
1. USA
2. Germany
3. Italy
4. France
5. Russia
6. China
7 Switzerland
8 Japan
9 The Netherlands
10. India

In US dollars, gold has a nominal value of only $ 325 billion. That is, a little more than half of their military budget and despite the fact that their infrastructure is wonderful. In other words, for them it's a penny.

Quote: Muvka

And after the collapse of the dollar, in case of which this gold is purchased, the apple will fall apart and will be in wild losses.

Well yes. With the collapse of the dollar (when will it finally come? ) there will be nothing to buy for gold already. Everything will collapse.

[Muvka]

Just gold will be that resource, thanks to which countries can at least somehow trade. I'm not saying that tomorrow the dollar will collapse. It may never crash, but living in the state only today and not thinking through the risks is wrong. That is why all developed countries have reserves. How are you, how are we. Just gold is a more reliable thing.
And about the infrastructure. Do you want a video from the USA, where is the trouble with infrastructure? But why don't they put their reserves into infrastructure?

[atalef]

Quote: Muvka

Just gold will be that resource, thanks to which countries can at least somehow trade. I'm not saying that tomorrow the dollar will collapse. It may never crash, but living in the state only today and not thinking through the risks is wrong. That is why all developed countries have reserves. How are you, how are we. Just gold is a more reliable thing.
And about the infrastructure. Do you want a video from the USA, where is the trouble with infrastructure? But why don't they put their reserves into infrastructure?

Strange, I thought the adherents of the sect - the dollar will die tomorrow, have already somehow died out - but apparently there are still people who are confident whose dollar will collapse and on this ashes, suddenly, out of nowhere gold and Russia will rule the world - leave your silly dreams.

[Muvka]

Where exactly did you see in my message that I believe that the dollar will collapse tomorrow?

[Cube123]

Quote: atalef

Strange, I thought the adherents of the sect - the dollar will die tomorrow, have already somehow died out - but apparently there are still people who are confident whose dollar will collapse and on this ashes, suddenly, out of nowhere gold and Russia will rule the world - leave your silly dreams.

Well, actually, the dollar for the period 2001 to 2011 depreciated against gold at 8! times from $ 250 to almost $ 2000 http://goldomania.ru/menu_003_001.html.
And since the Bretton Woods Agreement (1944) https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bretton Woods_Sys
the theme where the price of the dollar was tied tightly to gold and amounted to $ 35 per troy ounce - the dollar CHEAPER at $ 1300 / $ 35 = 37 times!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: atalef

I thought adherents of the sect

Uh, a plagiarizer

[geniy]

the dollar will collapse and on this ashes, suddenly out of nowhere gold and Russia at the head will rule the world - leave your silly dreams.

You see what’s the matter. not the dollar itself will collapse, but the whole US economy is preparing to collapse, and with it the economies of all developed Western countries. This is simply because the US government debt is already more than 100% and it will never be paid. So we are only talking about the duration of this apocalypse. Of course, this will not be good for all other countries (especially China), but Russia is still more likely to survive this misfortune than other countries. No, don’t think that these countries will die at all - but the United States and other countries of the golden billion will be very impoverished.

[ultra]

Quote: professor

Really. Let's look at the gold reserve of the countries of the world.
Top Ten:
1. USA

President Ronald Reagan came in 1981, conservative friends convinced him to study the feasibility study on returning the gold standard as the only way to curb government spending. Since it sounded quite sensible, President Reagan appointed a group called the Gold Commission to study the issue and draw conclusions for Congress. The Gold Commission in its report to Congress in 1982 made the following shocking discovery - the Treasury has no gold! No, not at all!

As it turned out, all that was left at Fort Knox did not belong to the Federal Reserve, but was kept by a group of private bankers as security for the national debt.

[geniy]

"Gold Commission." The Gold Commission in its report to Congress in 1982 made the following shocking discovery - the Treasury has no gold! No, not at all!

But here recently Turkey returned 200 tons of gold from America from America - how can we understand if there is supposedly no gold in the USA?

[Professor]

Quote: Muvka

In general, Israel has about 100 billion dollars of reserves. Why do not you invest in infrastructure? After all, Apple is only in the fourth quarter of 2017 .... Well, continue on your own. Why do you need reserves?

We do not have these reserves in gold, CEP. And we are well invested in infrastructure. New roads, railway, ports and airports.

Quote: Muvka

Just gold will be that resource, thanks to which countries can at least somehow trade. I'm not saying that tomorrow the dollar will collapse. It may never crash, but living in the state only today and not thinking through the risks is wrong. That is why all developed countries have reserves. How are you, how are we. Just gold is a more reliable thing.

Our reserves are not in gold. The dollar will collapse, we will trade in bitcoins. Nobody will pay with gold bars.

Quote: Muvka

And about the infrastructure. Do you want a video from the USA, where is the trouble with infrastructure? But why don't they put their reserves into infrastructure?

It’s not a problem with her in the USA. You can not show a separate hole on the road. I drove the USA from ocean to ocean. Himself saw their roads, etc.

Quote: ultra

President Ronald Reagan came in 1981, conservative friends convinced him to study the feasibility study on returning the gold standard as the only way to curb government spending. Since it sounded quite sensible, President Reagan appointed a group called the Gold Commission to study the issue and draw conclusions for Congress. The Gold Commission in its report to Congress in 1982 made the following shocking discovery - the Treasury has no gold! No, not at all!
As it turned out, all that was left at Fort Knox did not belong to the Federal Reserve, but was kept by a group of private bankers as security for the national debt.

I rest my case.
This is another proof that a gold reserve is not needed.

[ultra]

Quote: professor

This is another proof that a gold reserve is not needed.

I understood, "USA No. 1 in gold reserves," "so the US government gave this reserve to bankers for debts," "then this reserve is not needed at all!"

[Boa kaa]

Quote: professor

With the collapse of the dollar (when will it finally come?) There will be nothing to buy for gold. Everything will collapse.

Is that all right? Maybe the yuan and the euro will still remain?
And in order not to be buried under the rubble of a dollar empire, the most intelligent and perspicacious are invested in gold ... you can in platinum. But in gold - more familiar.

[Professor]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

Is that all right? Maybe the yuan and the euro will still remain?

Remember the crisis of the 2008 year? Just a mortgage burst. Not even a dollar. What happened to the Chinese and European economies?

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

And in order not to be buried under the rubble of a dollar empire, the most intelligent and perspicacious are invested in gold ... you can in platinum. But in gold - more familiar.

Weakly somehow you invested. Only $ 77 billion. You won’t even spend the Olympics on this money.

[Dart2027]

Quote: professor

Remember the crisis of 2008? Just a mortgage burst. Not even a dollar.

Was she not a dollar?

Quote: professor

What happened to the Chinese and European economies?

With Chinese, everything grows well and does not blow in the mustache.

[Stiletto_711]

Quote: professor

Well yes. With the collapse of the dollar (when will it finally come?)

All about the collapse of the dollar is known to Major N on duty on the Central Command of the Strategic Missile Forces. Contact he will explain

[The Siberian barber]

Unfortunately, the “firmware” of our economic leaders does not allow this. They sincerely believe that the capsule is an indicator of economic growth))
The mentality of an accountant, alas ((

[Mountain shooter]

So invest, mom do not worry. Come to see. Some roads are worth

[Professor]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

So invest, mom do not worry. Come to see. Some roads are worth

In China, about 6000 km of autobahns are introduced annually. That's where they build it.

Quote: Thunderbolt

Let's be happy together that we have a lot of gold.

Gold is a lot- 2000 tons, but it is not worth as much as it seems. Amazon’s net annual profit is about the same as your entire gold reserve.

Gold is a poor investment. Infrastructure, science and production are a good investment.

[Mountain shooter]

Professor, if I come to Israel in the fall, I will be able to internally document. And so, I myself. I am already amazed at how fast roads, interchanges and metro stations are being built in Moscow. Ring (Big), the so-called "concrete" is being built at an unprecedented pace. I did not look at statistics, but they build a lot, really.
Yes, gold, maybe a bad investment ... But is investing in an OPPONENT public debt a good one?
Gold, at least, is universal.

[Sergey ippon]

That’s the whole problem of Russia - you think Moscow is the whole country?
And people dream after visiting the capital from the regions, so that a meteorite falls on Muscovy so that everything is in the trash - but in fairness!
will be like in your own country

[Sergei1982]

Quote: professor

Amazon’s net annual profit is about the same as your entire gold reserve.

Amused, they cleaned Amazon’s profit of only 3 dollars, the value of Russia's gold reserves is 76 dollars. Gold is forever, but Amazon, Bezos, today, tomorrow, where is Standard Oil, for example? Where are the Fuggers? Next to list or not?

[Sergey ippon]

come to Kovrov — the second city in the Vladimir region — even in the center of the road or a ride around Shui — immediately scream, return the death penalty, and people go there every day and swear.
And pay attention and transport and triple excise taxes.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: professor

..... It turns out $ 40 per gram or $ 77.7 billion for all the gold in almost 1944 tons. Just $ 77.7 billion.

Here you are forever, Comrade Sokolov, with your calculator. Completeness ... Let's better rejoice together that we have a lot of sz-gold !!! )))

[Dart2027]

Quote: professor

For comparison, Apple’s profit in the fourth quarter of 2017 amounted to $ 52.6 billion.

Gold, as a value, exists throughout the history of mankind, but Apple’s profit is cutting paper.

Quote: professor

and despite the fact that their infrastructure is wonderful

And this is not her Trump wants to urgently repair until everything collapsed from old age?

[Metallurg_2]

Apple's profit is cutting paper

Not even paper - numbers on the computer.

[Professor]

Quote: Dart2027

Gold, as a value, exists throughout the history of mankind, but Apple’s profit is cutting paper.

Hard case. On this "cut paper" you can buy 1400 tons of gold.

Quote: saturn.mmm

In July, the price of gold added 8%, sort of, like Trump will impose sanctions against China and China will drop dollars, what will happen then?

There will be nothing. The Chinese economy without the US will burst like a soap bubble.

Quote: saturn.mmm

Apple is a good company, but Samsung is annoying them in the competition, and here are the Chinese and their Huawei.

Samsung in year earns as much as apple in quarter.

[Dart2027]

Quote: professor

On this "cut paper" you can buy 1400 tons of gold.

Hard case. Gold, as a value, exists throughout the history of mankind. Unlike dollars.

Quote: professor

The Chinese economy without the US will burst like a soap bubble.

Do the Chinese know about this?

[Professor]

Quote: Dart2027

Hard case. Gold, as a value, exists throughout the history of mankind. Unlike dollars.

As well as beads, horses and many other goods and glass. However, in the modern world the significance of gold is no longer that. Do not believe me, but a rich mouth of golden teeth in rich people you will not meet.

Quote: Dart2027

Do the Chinese know about this?

And how. And so not much show off. Slowly steal American technology and knit socks. For their greater miracle economy is not yet capable.

[Dart2027]

Quote: professor

However, in the modern world, the significance of gold is no longer that.

And why did the US sell fake tungsten ingots?

Quote: professor

Slowly steal American technology and knit socks. For their greater miracle economy is not yet capable.

Are these socks destroyers?
https://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/2
01801060406-6mjf.htm

Quote: professor

And so do not show off much

Chinese authorities said they were fully prepared to impose retaliatory sanctions on the United States if the White House imposed restrictive measures on Chinese entrepreneurs and investment in the United States. This was reported to reporters by the official representative of the Ministry of Commerce of China, Gao Feng.
https://life.ru/t/%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%
D1%82%D0%B8/1111480/kitai_prighotovilsia_k_vviedi
eniiu_otvietnykh_sanktsii_protiv_ssha

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: professor

For their greater miracle economy is not yet capable.

China is a leader in shipbuilding, a leader in automotive industry, in high-speed trains, advanced in telecommunications, dependence on the USA exists as well as dependence on the USA on China, in some sense they have a symbiosis.

[Stiletto_711]

Quote: professor

severe case. On this "cut paper" you can buy 1400 tons of gold.

And you try to buy, only real monetary gold, not paper. A surprise awaits you

[Vadim237]

That's when they start to throw off the little gold - Russia will acquire it at a low price.

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: professor

This is despite the fact that when they start to throw off a coin

In July, the price of gold added 8%, it seems like Trump will impose sanctions against China and China will drop dollars, what will happen then? Apple is a good company, but Samsung is annoying them in the competition, and here are the Chinese and their Huawei.

In the ranking of the global IDC smartphone market in terms of sales: Samsung (317,7 million units sold in 2017) in first place, Apple (215,8 million units sold in 2017) in second. In third place in the ranking is the Chinese company Huawei (in 2017, it sold 154,2 million smartphones). All three companies are fighting for market share, for profit and for a new buyer, which are becoming fewer in the market - according to the same rating, in 2017 the smartphone market declined for the first time since 2009. This means that those who are still left without a smartphone are becoming fewer in the world, and companies are starting to look for new ways to make a profit.

[Sergey ippon]

the infrastructure during the flight of the entire organized criminal group you will not take with you)

[Zaurbek]

A barrel and gold is something that will save value even with the collapse of the currency system.
We sold American bonds, but dollars from their sale on the correspondent account in dollars in an American bank.

[Konsul]

All right, Russia is doing ..! In WWII, Stalin for the fact that we soak Hitler for deliveries to the West and other Jews, he only paid with gold and platinum .. These moneylenders did not accept other calculations! Thank God there were enough stocks ...

[APASUS]

Experts are wondering what plans the Russian authorities may have associated with the tendency to drop the bulk of US securities (now Russia has not more than 100 billion dollars, but less than 15 billion) and about

What to guess then? With the development of a new investment scheme. $ 80 billion that money you can’t buy gold at once

[den3080]

A few days ago I heard (on the radio) such a thing: some kind of trick was made that allows reporting - it was reduced by 80 billion, which means that now these papers are “registered” in the USA as if from other countries (Luxembourg and so on) ), but really nothing significant happened. And of course, the “decrease” (by 80) does not correlate with the “increase” (gold reserves) in any way - for the difference between these values ​​is more than 10 times and is not in favor of the noble metal.
That is, the paper did not turn into gold at all.
A very respectable uncle was broadcasting (professor of something and other other).

[23rus]

So, this ... Will there still be a war? What right now?

[Vadim237]

And now a verbal skirmish.

[steelmaker]

We will rejoice when this gold will be in our vaults !! And the ruble to $ will be 90 kopecks.

[Vadim237]

It already lies in the special guard of the Russian Federation.

[Muvka]

Gold and so everything is physically located in our country. And about the correlation of courses ... you are like children. Yes, even now it is possible to make the dollar cost 50 kopecks, only your salary will be 250 rubles. What will it ultimately give you? Nothing will change.

[steelmaker]

And you make 50 kopecks! And everything will change right away. Immediately there will be another government, another economic program, everything will be different! It is profitable for traitors to make the country a raw materials appendage of the West, hence $ 60 and gas 50 rubles.

[23rus]

If you move to another planet - I am with you completely in agreement!

[rruvim]

! Gold and alchemists can “compose”. The strategic stock of the nation is always in people. In engineers, creative intelligentsia. In the "developed" youth. In Industrialization, finally! Gold pshyk! In addition to jewelry applications, it has no value. In addition to "symbolism".

[23rus]

See Russian sayings: "work is not a wolf ...", "his shirt is closer ...", "that a German is dead ..."

[Приговор]

Usually, gold reserves are increased in case of war. Unfortunately, not "economic", but ordinary.

[23rus]

There is something in it ... Someone’s multi-way trigger.

[Sergey ippon]

not enough gold!
you need more gold to build a ziggurat!

[rruvim]

Change the "bucks" to gold, this is to change "sewn to soap." It would be better if they found jobs for our youth. And machine tools in the World have long been on CNC, and not only machine tools, but entire plants. And our liberals are all in gold and gold.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Vadim237

Then, when I bought three kilograms in a bank

Or at least an engagement ring ... Family gold reserve!

[Vadim237]

It will not be enough, then it is better to invest in palladium.

[serge siberian]

Gold reserves and the development of industry and science are mutually supportive things. They will give money under one and the other. But the fact that investing money in both directions is a fact, as I understand it, does not require evidence. Another thing is that investing money in the development of production and science, while giving those artists who directly will do it themselves with their hands, this is the whole necessity. Do not beat hands and do not strip people, let them live, and not survive. But the current rulers do not want to do it. They will try.

[Mammoth]

I remember Stalin left a huge supply of gold in the USSR, although he paid with the Anglo-Saxons for deliveries of gold and platinum to the Second World War!
Putin also stocks up on this case? No matter how they stole, at the very last moment ....

[acetophenone]

Just above SPb have passed 2 triples of TU-95 at low altitude. It is unpleasant.

[Zomanus]

Well, if it really comes to another crisis,
it’s better to sit out with gold than to guess courses.
America and China are now raising rates in a trade standoff.

[alexmach]

But, ultimately, in the medium term, gold will certainly not lose its function of providing money supply for most economies in the world.

It has already lost it in the middle of the 20th century.

Experts wonder what plans of the Russian authorities may be associated with a tendency to drop the bulk of US securities

God knows what that means. They can simply eat up reserves, while the most liquid is spent first and foremost ... There are nuances with gold .. it is less liquid and since it is a commodity in itself, it cannot serve as a universal measure of value ...

[Warrior-80]

I give a certificate gold is born in super massive stars during their explosion, this event is rare and is called supernova, our sun is not able to produce gold

[23rus]

... and also it is found in the human body.

[sib.ataman]

Quote: Thunderbolt

Quote: professor

..... It turns out $ 40 per gram or $ 77.7 billion for all the gold in almost 1944 tons. Just $ 77.7 billion.

Here you are forever, Comrade Sokolov, with your calculator. Completeness ... Let's better rejoice together that we have a lot of sz-gold !!! )))

Gold does not happen much! But the lack of high-quality state brains! .. This is a fact! That’s why the eternal problem in Russia is fools and roads!

[voyaka uh]

Gold is pegged to the dollar, like everything else. With a sharp release to the market (for example, Russia decides to pay them for something), its price will instantly fall.
Once, Spain accumulated gold more than anyone else in Europe ... and went bankrupt.

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: voyaka uh

Once, Spain accumulated gold more than anyone else in Europe ... and went bankrupt.

Since Russia is still far from the United States, those 8134 tons are 4 times more than in Russia, the USA is in no hurry to get rid of gold.

[Lena Petrova]

Quote: figvam

The graph shows that gold is accumulating due to the approaching war, so that later it would be possible to pay for the purchase of weapons or raw materials

For a possible future global war, this scheme will no longer work. Rubicon passed. The world has changed.

[16112014nk]

White House Meeting:
- We must do something with our enormous debt ...
- And let's cancel the dollar, introduce something else!
- No, let's just give up all debts and send all nafig!
“Gentlemen, well, we cannot do that.” We are gentlemen, highly decent people, faithful to high moral principles, word and honor. Let’s better stir up the third world war!

[Lena Petrova]

Quote: professor

Gold is a lot- 2000 tons, but it is not worth as much as it seems. Amazon’s net annual profit is about the same as your entire gold reserve.

These are not all the reserves of the Russian Federation. In the case of a large financial stock, the price of gold may already be completely different. And all sorts of Amazons, Facebook, etc., suddenly can become completely useless to anyone. Who knows with what crack the bubble can burst if infinitely inflated. Let us at least partially adhere to historical values. This is not the worst option. Well, let them invest in production too. It does not interfere.

[Samara_63]

There is nothing to look at the USA, their economy is the strongest and most stable in the world!

[Mentat]

Quote: atalef

Money should bring income; buying gold in 2 of the last year is a complete loss.
All other conversations relate to a conversation like - they tried to put us on our knees - but we couldn’t.
Because we were left lying

You better think about yourself, about your country and its problems, and Russia will solve its own. It does not add any advantages to you in any of the meanings that you go to the forum under the flag of Israel and carry a chauvinistic scum.

[123456789]

The Russian Federation continues to increase its gold reserves.

Scolded Homer, Theocritus; But he read Adam Smith And there was a deep economy, That is, he knew how to judge how the state is getting richer, and how it lives, and why it doesn’t need gold, when it has a simple product.

[Ugolek]

It turns out $ 40 per gram or $ 77.7 billion for all the gold in almost 1944 tons. Only $ 77.7 billion. For comparison, Apple’s profit in the fourth quarter of 2017 amounted to $ 52.6 billion. This is despite the fact that when they start throwing a coin on the market, its price will drop by an order of magnitude.

It would be better if they invested in infrastructure.

All Western profits are overblown electronic money and nothing more. If the truth happened, especially a protracted war, then the Yankees with the Anglo-Saxons were immediately blown away with their futures, options, stocks. Whoever has more military factories would have won the war. If it does not give an instant blow, then the war of resources begins automatically and the West loses it as usual.

[Ugolek]

Or today, a rich Jew with futures for wheat and oil with the onset of war will not immediately become a pauper? After all, wheat and oil are only on paper, in real life it is a few shekels in cash and on a card, again electronic money ...

[Ugolek]

And America cannot start a war because of its debt, although it would like, BUT, if the war were to lose, what would happen to their exchanges, stock market and economy? What is the use of empty one by one arrays of bits - zeros and ones? Will they feed the country? They are panicky afraid of losing the war or drawing it in a draw - after all, no one will pay the price of gold, lose their sovereignty, surrender their brains and resources to them, bend under them. Everything will have to be built by ourselves, but there is no money. They will fall into the conditions of the 1920s in Russia and 1920-1930s in Germany. Their whole parasitic economy that strangles the world is bits. After the war, real money and resources are needed, not an electronic myth. So the states are furious - they cannot start a war, they are losing their syrup and influence, China is pushing, in short, the time has come for reckoning, it will last several decades. And Russia’s mother’s gold, grain fields, oil, gas, fish, timber, steel, uranium, water, in short, resources, help!

[Tarasios]

Quote: Dart2027

Quote: atalef

and generally there are no reserves in gold

While they are provided by the USA.

and while they fulfill all US Wishlist

[Vlad.by]

Quote: atalef

Quote: siberalt

Capitalism in Russia forces the state to buy its own gold for the money of the people in order to save the good of the capitalists in the event of war. Got it, damn it!

Russia buys gold because it’s easier for them to pay and circumvent sanctions (the sale of T-bills of FRS is also connected with this)
From an economic point of view, the purchase of gold by Russia is one complete loss, since the price of gold has been falling for quite some time.
And on this Russia has already lost in money terms more than 10 lard greens

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