Klimkin: Donbass referendum is a rehearsal for the collapse of Ukraine

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Moscow is not interested in the Donbass with its Ukrainian residents, Putin’s proposal on a referendum there is just a rehearsal for the collapse of all Ukraine, said Foreign Minister Pavel Klimkin.





Many experts and journalists call me, asking me to comment on the Russian proposal regarding the “referendum in the Donbass”,
Wrote Klimkin in Facebook.

According to the minister, he did not see such a proposal, but if it exists, then this is the greatest audacity.

For this audacity I will say briefly: no one believes in the possibility of free and fair expression of will in the Donbas during the Russian occupation,
he declared.

At the same time, Klimkin noted that a referendum in the east of Ukraine is impossible neither from a political nor from a legal point of view.

At the same time, according to him, people need to clearly realize one thing: Donbass with its Ukrainian citizens is not at all interested in Moscow. The Kremlin’s proposal on a referendum is a kind of rehearsal for the collapse of all Ukraine.

The Foreign Minister called for recalling “Russian passages about the federalization of Ukraine,” and stressed that these “passages” are not about Donbass at all. But the Russian authorities will not succeed in ruining the country, Klimkin concluded.

We will remind, earlier, Western media with links to sources reported that Vladimir Putin at a meeting in Helsinki suggested that Donald Trump consider a proposal to hold a referendum in Donbas, at which residents of the DPR and LPR would speak about the status of their territories.
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  1. +19
    21 July 2018 08: 30
    Klim Chugunkin on the wire ...
    Soon and literally smile
    1. MPN
      +7
      21 July 2018 08: 45
      rehearsal of the collapse of the whole Ukraine, said Foreign Minister Pavel Klimkin.
      Under Ukraine, he naturally identifies himself and the power of the creators ...
      But the Russian authorities will not succeed in ruining the country, Klimkin concluded.
      and added, we are sitting tight and we will not exchange our chairs for any Ukrainian people
      1. +2
        21 July 2018 13: 55
        At the same time, according to Klimkin, people need to clearly realize one thing: Donbass and its Ukrainian citizens are not at all interested in Moscow.

        Oh how! But what about "Russian aggression with Russian troops in Ukraine" ?! Those. the very thing about which the Bandera authorities and American governors in Kiev buzzed all the ears of the Western world to the core of the bones - in the same EU?
        Klimkin began to say something illogical and began, in fact, to hand over his foreign curators. It is unlikely that the same Americans will like it.
        1. 0
          21 July 2018 18: 12
          Where did he learn our insidious plan? We have a mole!
    2. Cat
      +2
      21 July 2018 09: 15
      And why is a toilet brush also hanging on a wire? wassat
      1. +8
        21 July 2018 10: 13
        Klimkin is no longer annoying, but really infuriates, geek*.

        * In the Ozhegov dictionary
        GEORGE, -dka, m. (Open.). The man who stands out in some environment with its extremely negative, repulsive qualities. B. in the family. B. the human race.
        2. A person who is not similar in his physical, mental, etc. qualities to other members of the family or to any category of persons to which he belongs.
        1. Cat
          +2
          21 July 2018 14: 09
          What government - such and ministers. Actually, according to Klimkin, one can imagine who rules a beautiful country. Please do not confuse the country with state power. Although, to call IT a state can only be a pervert.
        2. +1
          21 July 2018 18: 53
          But in Kursk he will not be accepted .....................
          1. Cat
            0
            23 July 2018 22: 12
            Yes, and in the Crimea .. I’m generally silent about Rostov ... Although, probably, he has a nest on Rublevka?
    3. +10
      21 July 2018 09: 38
      But the Russian authorities will not succeed in ruining the country, Klimkin concluded.


      Klimkin - Kursk Russophobe, clearly skipped the lessons of history. The country "Ukraine" has never been. But the Ukrainian SSR has already collapsed.
      1. 0
        21 July 2018 09: 53
        They are not looking for good from good!
        However, for a dream, an idea of ​​fixation, people can rush without hesitation with pots on their heads ..... you don’t have to go far for examples!
      2. +6
        21 July 2018 10: 38
        And how to explain to a 5-year-old child who does not want to go to kindergarten that no one asks his opinion ???
        1. Cat
          0
          21 July 2018 14: 00
          Just. Strap - if a boy. If a girl - you can convince (although this is useless) recourse
    4. +3
      21 July 2018 10: 04
      What is there to rehearse if three regions have already fallen from Ukraine, and a third of the population has gone over the hill for work winked .
      1. +2
        21 July 2018 10: 21
        Quote: siberalt
        What is there to rehearse if three regions have already fallen from Ukraine, and a third of the population has gone over the hill for work winked .

        There, most of the western urkaina is at a low start to break into Romania, Hungary and Poland.
        1. 0
          21 July 2018 11: 12
          Notice, the big brother is not in a hurry to start with because of okeana!
        2. 0
          21 July 2018 11: 59
          still wait and outskirts empty
      2. +4
        21 July 2018 11: 26
        The name of the repeaters is known .. The world government is a cool-blooded reptiloid with a steady gaze ... Klimkin is a stupid puppet in the hands of these tutors ... Paying for tutors is human blood. And mani, mani. All the money of the world to them.
      3. Cat
        +1
        21 July 2018 14: 03
        By the way, yes! Ukrvlast stubbornly does not want to conduct a population census. Do you know why?
    5. +1
      21 July 2018 14: 18
      funny promises and empty fakes. that’s what you need for the title. in the office a la Smrnov. Correct the general's hair, the great helmsman [quote = Thrall] Klim Chugunkin on the wire ...
  2. +3
    21 July 2018 08: 32
    And then two Maidan? laughing
    1. SSR
      +6
      21 July 2018 09: 34
      Quote: Jerk
      And then two Maidan? laughing

      Well so.

      Quick walk
      The look is crazy.
      Therefore me
      They call it cast-iron!

      Chugunkin is fooling around, the 404th is already breaking up.
  3. +4
    21 July 2018 08: 34
    At the same time, Klimkin noted that a referendum in the east of Ukraine is impossible neither from a political nor from a legal point of view.
    .... It is clear until everyone is shot dead in LDNR, they calm down ...
    1. +5
      21 July 2018 08: 47
      Donbass, time to go home!
  4. +5
    21 July 2018 08: 34
    Putin’s proposal for a referendum there is just a rehearsal for the collapse of the whole Ukraine, said Foreign Minister Pavel Klimkin.
    The citizens of Ukraine themselves are more tired of Ukraine.
  5. +13
    21 July 2018 08: 35
    And you will hold a referendum not only on the territory "occupied by Russia", but also in the entire Donetsk-Lugansk region. Where the "valiant APU" stand. And let's see what the result will be. And the “pan” Klimkin woke up. Ukraine is already falling apart without Russia. If Russia attached “pens” to this process .... And so, poor Ukraine, all by itself ....
    1. +6
      21 July 2018 08: 41
      Klimkin thinks that he beautifully “sent off” the proposal that was voiced. In fact, he stupidly spoke out the bait of a new cunning plan of the darkest. What the reaction will be is not important at all, the fact of the reaction is important.
      Even a sluggish worm will play if put on a hook.
    2. +1
      21 July 2018 09: 55
      Quote: Egoza
      And you will hold a referendum not only on the territory "occupied by Russia", but also in the whole Donetsk-Lugansk region

      I don’t know where you live, but I have spoken enough with people from Donetsk and Lugansk regions. The only desire is for the database to stop and normal life return. And how exactly, the majority is already "on the drum."
    3. 0
      22 July 2018 06: 02
      I repeat: A referendum should be with us - in Russia - on the protection of our fellow tribesmen in the Donbass. In wildlife, fratricide is eliminated “within the family,” no other way, and nothing to do with the USA, the EU, or anyone else. “We don’t leave ours” - does not work. The self-preservation instinct does not work and much more. Adaptation opportunities work mainly at the population level, and this has been beaten in us for many centuries. As long as we are not sick of liberalism-humanisms and the awareness of national unity wakes up, we will only get worse.
  6. +4
    21 July 2018 08: 37
    It is noteworthy that if Trump suddenly agrees to the proposal for a referendum (if there was one), then no one will ask Chugunkino for an opinion.
    1. +2
      21 July 2018 09: 43
      Quote: Hagalaz
      Nobody asks Chugunkino’s opinion.

      His opinions, like the opinions of the rest of the Kiev junta, and so no one asks. It expresses itself ...
      1. 0
        21 July 2018 10: 01
        Incontinence?
    2. +2
      21 July 2018 09: 48
      Quote: Hagalaz
      It is noteworthy that if Trump suddenly agrees to the proposal for a referendum (if there was one), then no one will ask Chugunkino for an opinion.

      The State Department has officially denied the possibility of recognizing such a "referendum."
      1. +1
        21 July 2018 10: 12
        Quote: Normal ok
        The State Department has officially denied the possibility of recognizing such a "referendum."

        hi
        The State Department crowed against, but Trump has not yet said a final word. Although it would be extremely naive to expect something worthwhile from this "vanka-vstanka". Yes
  7. +2
    21 July 2018 08: 47
    He can only call from a psychiatric hospital, why is still not on injections ?? fool
  8. +4
    21 July 2018 08: 48
    Where does the Kursk guy married to the daughter of the Russian general, awarded the medal "For the Return of Crimea", have Ukrainian sadness? Or maybe this is our man, deeply conspired?
    1. +5
      21 July 2018 08: 52
      Quote: gabonskijfront
      Where does the Kursk guy married to the daughter of the Russian general, awarded the medal "For the Return of Crimea", have Ukrainian sadness?

      From the fact that he has to live in a family according to the combined-arms charter of the Russian army. soldier
      1. +2
        21 July 2018 14: 25
        Quote: Thrall
        Quote: gabonskijfront
        Where does the Kursk guy married to the daughter of the Russian general, awarded the medal "For the Return of Crimea", have Ukrainian sadness?

        From the fact that he has to live in a family according to the combined-arms charter of the Russian army. soldier

        There is no such charter (combined arms) in the RF Armed Forces or in the Klimkin family. I think that Klimkin’s father-in-law doesn’t foot on the territory of the daughter’s family, but when he drinks, he remembers his daughter and son-in-law, he’s so sad, sad. I’m talking like the father of an adult daughter.
  9. tap
    +2
    21 July 2018 09: 05
    "But the Russian authorities will not succeed in ruining the country, Klimkin concluded." If the Russians fail, the Ukrainian succeeds.
  10. +4
    21 July 2018 09: 13
    They judge you .. but you do not steal! With the policies pursued in Ukraine, the question of the collapse of the country ... This is only a matter of time ...
  11. +6
    21 July 2018 09: 23
    And what is it on the splash screen to the article they stuck a photo of Klimkin 4 years ago ?? Right now this handsome man looks very different:
    1. +1
      21 July 2018 20: 15
      Well, changes on the face - "fit" and "prettier"
  12. +1
    21 July 2018 09: 52
    no one believes in the possibility of free and honest expression of will in the Donbass under the conditions of Russian occupation,

    But this is absolutely true. Moreover, those who came to power in the Ordlo are far from willing to surrender such a sinecure.
  13. +5
    21 July 2018 10: 02
    DARKEST at the very point hit ...
  14. +4
    21 July 2018 10: 05
    Klimkin noted that a referendum in eastern Ukraine is impossible from a political or legal point of view.
    This question will not be decided by a freak by the name of Klimkin and not even the capital city of Kukuev, but by the goat-bearded Sam at the proposal of the President of the Russian Federation. What will be the verdict, find out in the near future.

    Trump did not reject Putin's proposal, but relying on his word would be the greatest stupidity - a political changeling, however.
    1. 0
      21 July 2018 19: 46
      Quote: Lelek
      What will be the verdict, find out in the near future.


      Well, that’s what the State Department’s statement about the referendum in LDN appeared. Heather Nauert voiced the opinion of the Changeling President:
  15. +4
    21 July 2018 10: 15
    These Kuev imbeciles for the collapse of Ukraine did much more than all the other enemies combined.
  16. +2
    21 July 2018 10: 43
    Quote: “The Foreign Minister urged to recall the“ Russian passages on the federalization of Ukraine, ”and emphasized that these“ passages ”are not about the Donbass at all. But the Russian authorities will not succeed in ruining the country, Klimkin concluded."
    The fact that "it will not succeed (allegations of such" flimsy ", allegedly aspirations of the Russian authorities refer to the Russophobic bias of the" Ukrainians "politicians!)" The Russian authorities are quite able to make Washington-puppet Bandera-Nazi "Ukrainian authorities" themselves and ruin the "Square" the American colony more and more successful ?!
    About federalization is not "Russian passages", but Ukrainian! Even at the dawn of the “rozbudovye nezalezhnosti”, in the 90s, when the same sorted post-Soviet part, Russia was not up to the Ukrainian upheavals, sober-minded people in Ukraine proposed federalization in order to avoid what happened now!
    With the federal system, the newborn Ukraine had a chance to become a successful European country, but this chance was hopelessly missed by the "Ukrainians" dribblers with small-town thinking, who had seized power in the republic at the time of the treacherous "surrender" of the USSR!
    Now, as a result of the “Euro Maid” coup (carried out by Washington curators with the help of Nazi extremists controlled by them), Ukraine has virtually openly transferred to the status of the American colony, Ukraine, and the US ambassador to the status of the Ukraine governor! For the benefit of the American occupiers, a violent “Ukrainization” is being carried out — the banderization of the multinational population of the Ukrainian territory, and it is clear that they will not allow any “federalization of Ukraine”, even decorative ones!
  17. +2
    21 July 2018 10: 44
    "Patria o muerte!" Homeland or Death! In ukropskiy "fatherless death” Who of Svidomo sang such songs? And are the bandera ready for a complete victory or heroic death? Or closer to “maskalyak on gilyaku” And yak zho “my hut from the edge I don’t know anything” and with the “cage with high colo huts” and “dzhelyama” that “buzz over the tall ones”. Or "They are waiting for us in Europe, everything is free there!" Well, this Europe is obliged to pay us all this pastoral.
  18. +5
    21 July 2018 10: 53
    Ukraine has long been gone ..! There is a range of confrontation between the United States and Russia .. Let's face it
  19. +4
    21 July 2018 11: 01
    Look, see the light! What did you think? This your Maidan has just begun with the loss of the Crimea. Project Novorossia - still “unfreeze” laughing
    1. +1
      21 July 2018 11: 10
      Mountain shooter (Eugene) Today, 11: 01
      ... Look, see the light!

      so it’s it and grinds anything that they don’t forget about it ...
  20. +4
    21 July 2018 11: 07
    The jackals know that the residents of Dobass will all polls vote for leaving Ukraine. And no matter where. Although in Honduras, but away from this country
  21. +3
    21 July 2018 12: 04
    Klimkin?
    He specifically - fears and probes the soil in Chicago ... As if in a toilet ...
    "Banderovets? ... You will answer me bastards for Sevastopol!"
  22. +2
    21 July 2018 12: 19
    Ale, Chugunkin, she fell apart in 2014, what remains is essentially not the state anymore.
  23. +3
    21 July 2018 12: 21
    That’s how it is, that is, Klimkin believes that the Maidan and nationalists have the right to seize power in the country, overthrow the popularly elected president, start a civil war, but the inhabitants of Donbass can’t say everything that they can’t think about it ?!

    The country’s redistribution of power in the country on the Maidan and nationalists led the country to collapse ... But the inhabitants of Donbass simply want to live in their own culture, with their true history, speak their Russian language and teach their children about it and Bandera Ukraine like the whole Southeast ...

    Klimkim understands this, understands that it will not be limited to the Donbass, that such referenda will be in other regions of Ukraine, even in the western ones ... But this is not the fault of the people living in these regions, this is the fault of those who supported the Maidan - the illegal overthrow of power, those who began to divide society into friends and foes ...
  24. +2
    21 July 2018 13: 15
    That's when the paranoid comes to power, then the serial Charlie Chaplin begins! And don’t call him: even Klim Chugunkin, even Cast Iron Klimkin, one hell! Piece of iron!
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  26. +3
    21 July 2018 14: 09
    I read the article, looked at the comments, was saddened ... My Russian spirit protests in me. Strongly disagree with this statement. And people argue - what if Trump would have agreed to a referendum, and, probably, he would not have agreed to a referendum in vain ... But who is Trump to decide the fate of my friends and relatives ?! With what kind of liberalistic fright should Trump agree to a referendum WE or disagree ?! But most importantly - why do we Russians, in all honesty, talk about receiving Trump's mercy ?! Some crap ... angry
  27. +1
    21 July 2018 14: 26
    Rehearsals began on the Maidan. No need to blame everything on others.
  28. +2
    21 July 2018 14: 32
    It is impossible to destroy what is already destroyed. De jure, Ukraine still seems to exist, but de facto it is no longer a state, but a colony of other states with various small-town clans that tear for themselves a piece of foreign supplies and rob their people.
  29. 0
    21 July 2018 16: 08
    Prevention for UKRALina is already powerless .. only surgery with a Russian scalpel will help ..
  30. +1
    21 July 2018 17: 28
    Klimkin is puzzled, you have had a rehearsal for the collapse of the country for four years now, and you just realized. Well, you and boots.
  31. +1
    22 July 2018 01: 17
    Fall apart yourself and sooner, you are tired of all the Kiev, clowns and Nazi-Bandera killers.
  32. 0
    22 July 2018 04: 56
    How “beautiful” it all began — the fight against the Yanuk bribe-takers and, as always, the authorities are full of scumbags, which Ukrainians and Ukraine are worse than slaves.
  33. +2
    22 July 2018 22: 40
    no one believes in the possibility of free and honest expression of will in the Donbass under the conditions of Russian occupation

    Since they believed the referendum on Ukraine’s secession from the USSR, they must believe it! There, Ukraine was “occupied”, and here the Donbass was “occupied”.

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