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Media: Patriot complexes will not protect Sweden from the Russian "Iskander"

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Patriot US air defense systems are unable to protect their European NATO allies from Russian Iskander missiles, writes Militarywatch.




More than other Russian missiles fear the Swedes. In their opinion, Iskander deployed in the Kaliningrad region put Swedish airfields at risk of almost instantaneous destruction. But disabling operational NATO airfields in the north of Europe gives Russians the opportunity to quickly and with minimal resistance to gain air supremacy, according to Swedish experts.

That is why Stockholm ordered the Patriot 4 and 200 missiles for them. Under the terms of the contract, the weapons should be delivered by 2020. The transaction value was about $ 3,1 billion.

However, American complexes are unlikely to be able to withstand the Russian "Iskander", the author writes. This is evidenced by the experience of the use of "Patriots" in the Middle East and Afghanistan.

Thus, during Operation Storm in the Desert, American complexes showed complete impotence against the outdated Soviet Scud missiles. “There is no evidence that the Patriot shot down more than a few Scud missiles launched by Iraq during the Gulf War, and there are some doubts even about these indicators,” the White House said.

The Israeli military tried to shoot down an Iranian UAV with an American missile, but after two misses to destroy drone had to lift the helicopter. In 2017, a Yemeni Patriot failed to hit a few primitive Houthi missiles.

How are the American complexes going to resist the "Iskander", equipped with a system to overcome the missile defense system, if they could not cope with such trifling threats, the author wonders. And he himself answers: the American platform is not able to repel the attack of the Iskander.
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  1. leon-iv
    leon-iv 19 July 2018 15: 19
    +6
    That's right, buy from us S-400 they will agree)))))
    1. Gargantua
      Gargantua 19 July 2018 15: 53
      +4
      What is the author’s logic? If the Patriots cannot bring down the Iskanders, then they should not be bought? Even if they do not destroy our missiles, they still pose a great danger to our aircraft, especially with other medium and short-range air defense systems. Iskander missiles for all purposes are not enough and it is not advisable to shoot them at all targets. Iskanders and warehouses for storing their missiles in the Kaliningrad region - this will be the primary goal for NATO aviation and artillery. So this "noodle" is designed for cheers, no more.
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 19 July 2018 16: 01
        +8
        Pankrat, they are also destroyed (SAM) and not only Iskander. The point is that Patriots are being advertised. After all, the author cites examples on Iraq, the SA and Israel - maybe these SAMs are not as good as they are advertised? Are they worth the cost? hi
        1. Jack O'Neill
          Jack O'Neill 19 July 2018 16: 35
          +5
          Pankrat, they are also destroyed (SAM) and not only Iskander. The point is that Patriots are being advertised. After all, the author cites examples on Iraq, the SA and Israel - maybe these SAMs are not as good as they are advertised? Are they worth the cost?

          And our air defense systems are good, as advertised? Maybe our SAMs are not worth the cost?
          The "Patriot" is real - combat experience, while ours do not. I'm talking about C-300 and above. wink
          I mean, do not underestimate the Americans, and the same "Patriot", as well as put in comparison with the air defense system, which "no gunpowder smelled."
          Yes, ours are better on paper, but what ravines will be in real databases? And there will be ravines, they always and at all, whatever the technique would be, but they finish it by experience in the database.
          1. Chills
            Chills 19 July 2018 16: 53
            +1
            Not everything is so bad, not only airplanes are being tested in Syria. Together with servicemen at air defense complexes, technical staff of manufacturing plants. Coincidence? I do not think.
            1. Jack O'Neill
              Jack O'Neill 19 July 2018 17: 11
              0
              Not everything is so bad, not only airplanes are being tested in Syria. Together with servicemen at air defense complexes, technical staff of manufacturing plants. Coincidence? I do not think.

              This is not at all. No one attacks our air defense system, and we don’t shoot at the same Israelis and Americans. The Syrians, by the way, shoot at Israelis, even one F-16I was shot down.
          2. Kasym
            Kasym 19 July 2018 17: 19
            +2
            Yuri, but those “dinosaurs” of S-75, etc. not a little blood was drunk by the Americans in Vietnam, etc .. wink . It must be assumed that their "descendants" took into account the weaknesses of their ancestors and received their "zest". Well, judging by how events took place in Syria after the deployment of the air defense system of the Russian Federation, it can be assumed that their "partners" respected them very much ... If they were such ... the US allies in the region would not in turn to line up that the US has to put pressure on them. hi
            I just assume that the Patriots are not as good as they are advertised.
            1. Jack O'Neill
              Jack O'Neill 19 July 2018 19: 03
              0
              Yuri, but those C-75 dinosaurs, etc. not a little blood drank the Americans in Vietnam, etc .. wink. We must assume that their "descendants" took into account the weaknesses of their ancestors and received their "raisins". Well, judging by how events took place in Syria after the deployment of the RF air defense system, we can assume that their "partners" respect them very much ... If they were such, then the US allies in the region would not queue up line up that the US has to put pressure on them. hi

              Headache, yes. Even MZA delivered a very bad headache.

              I just assume that the Patriots are not as good as they are advertised.

              Advertising - this is to show the pros, but keep quiet about the minuses. This is the essence of advertising - to present at its best! So it is logical, the "Patriots" are not the same as in advertising.)
          3. igorka357
            igorka357 19 July 2018 17: 38
            +1
            Yes, someone argues, and my plus is for you, but here it is something else .. See Yuri, with competent use by specialists, our 30 complexes of old prescription gave a result of course not the same as they write .. but still! And now the question is, what if out of five our planes will shoot down five, ssykovo .. cusk, just like us, and suddenly our complexes will not crash not one, ssykovo .. cuskov! So, until we start fighting with Amer, our air defense-missile defense is the best , and their "stealth" and the new "axes" are the best .. !!!
            1. Jack O'Neill
              Jack O'Neill 19 July 2018 19: 05
              +1
              Yes, someone argues, and my plus is for you, but here it is something else .. See Yuri, with competent use by specialists, our 30 complexes of old prescription gave a result of course not the same as they write .. but still! And now the question is, what if out of five our planes will shoot down five, ssykovo .. cusk, just like us, and suddenly our complexes will not crash not one, ssykovo .. cuskov! So, until we start fighting with Amer, our air defense-missile defense is the best , and their "stealth" and the new "axes" are the best .. !!!

              Then yes, and you can not argue.) Only real (God forbid) collision will decide everything.
          4. SETTGF
            SETTGF 19 July 2018 21: 56
            0
            Jack O'Neill! Do not write about someone who sniffed gunpowder ... The S-300 and S-400 will pleasantly surprise you and others in their range of application, noise immunity and other parameters. Therefore, it is better not to put Patriot on the level of Russian complexes! Combat experience showed that Patriot spent up to 4 to hit the Scud missile! Keep the gunpowder for yourself!
          5. Charik
            Charik 20 July 2018 13: 12
            0
            I mean it on paper, but the exercises that draw on paper or train on different types of targets, yes bullshit, your patriot will sweat it in an inclined pu and the radar is not a circular view, the hat is shorter
          6. Charik
            Charik 20 July 2018 13: 21
            0
            I doubt that our people who are engaged in these developments would begin to make the complex worse than the enemy, didn’t the S-75 and the following up to the S-300 take part in the database? And even the development of those systems is now in service with IT modernized several times, taking into account the development of enemy offensive weapons
      2. igorka357
        igorka357 19 July 2018 17: 33
        0
        Air defense systems in Europe, this is the primary goal for our missiles and artillery, what’s your answer? Don’t worry about Pankrat, even with nuclear weapons, the United States didn’t decide on some plans, if you know ... And note the USSR doesn’t there were then nuclear weapons, but their analytics still considered that the Russian tanks would reach the English Channel ..!
        1. Tiksi-3
          Tiksi-3 19 July 2018 20: 53
          0
          Quote: igorka357
          Air defense systems in Europe, this is the primary goal for our missiles

          Any American military base on the body of a sovereign state - it like a cancerous tumor strikes the independence of this state and paralyzes its will to resist the disease.
          Until recently, it was such an oncological pathology in the circles of medical bodies that was considered incurable. But not in Russia! Our country has a unique army of experienced surgeons and resuscitators armed with modern methods and means of combating carriers of foci of infection. And these specialists are well aware that aggressive therapy is urgently needed for the malignant nature of Washington.
      3. SETTGF
        SETTGF 19 July 2018 21: 37
        +1
        Gargantua! This is all known for a long time! But why do patriots not suit you? Let them rejoice! And do not try to consider the deployment of our Iskanders with such sarcasm ... the Ministry of Defense knows what they are doing!
    2. Maz
      Maz 19 July 2018 18: 28
      -1
      How can you !?
      Quote: leon-iv
      That's right, buy from us S-400 they will agree)))))

      Only Israel, expensive, but of high quality and can be knocked down. This is not the box office! Yes, it will definitely hit! That's right .... We need to check ... :)
  2. 210ox
    210ox 19 July 2018 15: 20
    +6
    There’s an attack! There were submarines. And now there are also missiles .. crying
    1. MPN
      MPN 19 July 2018 15: 26
      +5
      Quote: 210ox
      There’s an attack! There were submarines. And now there are also missiles .. crying

      Let them study at Gribuskait, put patriots on submarines, and even cyber attacks will not be scary ...
    2. Amurets
      Amurets 20 July 2018 04: 25
      0
      Quote: 210ox
      There’s an attack! There were submarines. And now there are also missiles ..

      And in order to avoid misfortunes, one must take an example from Switzerland and strictly observe neutrality, it will be cheaper, which Sweden has never done, and came to its senses only when it received on a roll.
      1. Charik
        Charik 20 July 2018 13: 27
        +1
        From a letter from John the Terrible to the Swedish king Johan III
        Excerpts from letters of Ivan the Terrible to the royal persons of Europe.

        "You sent to us through a captive your letter filled with dog barking. You write your name in front of ours - it’s indecent, for we are a brother — a caesar of Rome and other great sovereigns, and you cannot be called his brother, for the Swedish land is an honor below these states, as will be proved ahead ... But you started an evil deed, as soon as you sat down on the state, and our great ambassadors ..., you innocently and mockingly ordered to rob and dishonor - they left them in their shirts! But these are great people .... And what did you write to us barking and then want to bark to answer our letter, so it’s for us, great sovereigns, nothing to write except for barking, and writing barking is not fitting for great sovereigns; we wrote to you not barking, but the truth, and sometimes because they wrote so extensively that if you don’t clarify it, you won’t get an answer from you, and if you take a dog’s mouth and want to bark for fun, then this is your servile custom: it’s an honor for you, and for us great sovereigns, and to communicate with you is dishonor, and barking to you b - and it’s even worse, and transfusion with you is worse than that in this world, and if you want to transfuse, then you find yourself the same serf as you yourself are a serf, and transfuse with him. From now on, no matter how much you write barking, we will not give you any answer. "(January 6, 1573)
  3. USSR-1
    USSR-1 19 July 2018 15: 24
    +3
    Hochmachi, these Swedes. They understand everything themselves, but the owner ordered them to buy useless complexes, and this is necessary contrary to common sense ... It would be better if these 3 billion dollars were spent on arranging migrants, for example
    1. Chills
      Chills 19 July 2018 16: 57
      0
      In fairness, I note that Sweden is in the club of jet fighter manufacturers. That says a lot. It’s somehow incorrect to call the guys who can make such technologically sophisticated complexes Hochmachi. what
      1. USSR-1
        USSR-1 19 July 2018 17: 05
        0
        Quote: Oznob
        In fairness, I note that Sweden is in the club of jet fighter manufacturers. That says a lot. It’s somehow incorrect to call the guys who can make such technologically sophisticated complexes Hochmachi. what

        They produce wonderful anti-tank weapons, and what does that change?
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 20 July 2018 04: 33
          0
          Quote: USSR-1
          They produce wonderful anti-tank weapons, and what does that change?

          Yes, this does not change anything. Sweden produces a lot of wonderful products, I will not list manufacturers, many including in the arms market. Produce and sell those, but do not meddle in this mess, do not act as bully! Great Sweden ended long ago, in 1905 when the union of Sweden and Norway broke up
  4. 100502
    100502 19 July 2018 15: 26
    +2
    The vile countries that were the first to attack us with the aim of conquering, are now screaming about our aggression, it’s clear that their ancestors gave them the teeth, they still walk with fear from us)
    1. cariperpaint
      cariperpaint 19 July 2018 15: 45
      +1
      A country is like a country. In my opinion, phantom pains of several centuries ago are not peculiar to them.
  5. alstr
    alstr 19 July 2018 15: 26
    +1
    Why did the Swedes panic? Iskanders are not Caliber. Fly not so far. They won’t even reach Stockholm (although they can drop the bridge in the Danish Straits). Or do they have all airfields only in the south?
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 19 July 2018 17: 32
      +1
      Quote: alstr
      Or do they have all airfields only in the south?

      Yes, there are many of them. The whole Swedish "southern triangle" is quite shot through from the Svetlogorsk region.
  6. Guru
    Guru 19 July 2018 15: 48
    +2
    The transaction value was about $ 3,1 billion.

    So let the Swedes of Russia help with money for the pension reform, and we will give them guarantees. Dates are not afraid wassat
  7. demo
    demo 19 July 2018 15: 54
    +1
    Swedes are more afraid of other Russian missiles. According to them, the Iskanders deployed in the Kaliningrad Region put Swedish airfields at risk of almost instant destruction.
    And you do not bully, and the "district" with questions will not come to you.
    Be neutral. Not in words. But in practice. And you will have a warm sun and green grass.
  8. Strips
    Strips 19 July 2018 16: 19
    0
    .So, during Operation Desert Storm, American systems showed complete powerlessness over the outdated Soviet Scud missiles. “There is no evidence that the Patriot shot down more than a few Scud missiles,”


    This is complete nonsense.
    Moreover, the complexes underwent modernization.


    The Israeli military tried to shoot down an Iranian UAV with an American missile, but after two misses, a helicopter had to be lifted to destroy the drone.


    The author forgot that in September 2014, an Israeli air defense system Patriot shot down a Syrian Air Force Su-24 bomber

    On August 31, 2014, a drone was shot down by Israel.

    July 27, 2016 the Patriot could not bring down the drone.

    April 27, 2017 Israel shot down a drone

    September 19, 2017 Israel shot down a drone

    June 25, 2018 the Patriot could not bring down the drone

    On July 11 and July 13, 2018, Russian and Iranian drones were shot down by Patriot missiles.

    Maybe I forgot something else, but in principle it shows that the author of the article has little understanding of what he writes.
    1. SETTGF
      SETTGF 19 July 2018 21: 41
      0
      Tiras! What is the probability of a Scud missile being hit by the Patriot complex ?! From here and draw conclusions!
      1. Strips
        Strips 20 July 2018 10: 51
        0
        Quote: SETTGF
        Tiras! What is the probability of a Scud missile being hit by the Patriot complex ?!


        And what? You read, it all depended on the modification and calibration.

        But what is the probability of defeating the C300 or C400 in real conditions, no one knows.

        But we know the approximate successes of s125 against Israel. And then Israel still had not developed avionics and electronic warfare systems, as it is now.

        So consider:

        In Egypt, in March-July 1970, Soviet divisions of the S-125 air defense system shot down 17 Israeli and 35 Egyptian aircraft in 9 firing (consumption of 1 missiles)

        35 missiles for 10 aircraft.

        S-125 SAMs of Egypt during the Doomsday War with Israel in October 1973 in 61 firing (consumption 174 missiles) 21 aircraft were shot down

        174 missiles for 21 aircraft.


        Syria S-125 air defense system in 72 firing (131 missile consumption) - 33 aircraft.

        131 missiles for 33 aircraft.
        1. Charik
          Charik 20 July 2018 13: 40
          0
          it was enough for everyone, and how many UUhhh missiles we have will land hundreds and so that they don’t even take off Iskanderchik
    2. assa67
      assa67 19 July 2018 21: 48
      0
      Quote: Tiras
      On August 31, 2014, a drone was shot down by Israel.

      look at the data, if you equate the ball to a drone, then the victory is unconditional .. 7 fighters damaged, one irrevocable ... there is a difference: to shoot down balls and a couple of drones of 1000 rubles, or to restore damaged mattress efs ... all the money stolen will not be enough, and hired .... sorry, for the truth ...
    3. Charik
      Charik 20 July 2018 13: 33
      0
      ok Th drones and the ancient Su24 even no Mku
  9. nikoliski
    nikoliski 19 July 2018 16: 50
    -1
    4 complexes and 200 missiles? in my stupidity, if they want to hide behind, at least 20 zrc is needed, and not 4-4 zrc is one battery that can be destroyed by one group of saboteurs, after which 200 missiles bought for them will become rubbish, rather than take 4 patriots money would have been in vain, but bought a couple of squadrons of verticals f-35, which can be poked anywhere (any edge of the forest can become a takeoff, since they are so afraid of hitting their airfields)
    1. Mimoprohodil
      Mimoprohodil 19 July 2018 17: 37
      0
      4 complexes are 4 batteries.
      Sweden is expected to supply four AN / MPQ-65 radars, four AN / MSQ-132 battery control centers, 12 M903 launchers, 100 MIM-104E GEM-T missiles, 200 RAS-3 MSE missiles, four EPP III field power plants and nine antenna mast devices
      1. nikoliski
        nikoliski 20 July 2018 00: 37
        -1
        then let the author of the article write in more detail, and not be misleading (re-read the article, there are 4 words about the 4 complexes and not a word about the division or batteries) although there are clearly XNUMX batteries in the transaction amount
  10. evil partisan
    evil partisan 19 July 2018 16: 52
    +1
    Swedes continue to shit bricks sad . And as soon as the priest after this does not hurt? what
    1. The Siberian barber
      The Siberian barber 19 July 2018 17: 18
      +1
      "calibrated" for a long time, already ..
      Since the beginning of the search for submarines, in their ter. waters
  11. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 19 July 2018 17: 25
    +1
    Stockholm ordered 4 Patriot complexes and 200 missiles to them. Under the terms of the contract, weapons should be delivered by 2020.
    The only valuable information. Everything else is distorted and strained comparisons and paranoid fears of an unnamed (for some reason Expert). Maybe he is so good in his analytics that he is strictly classified?
    Meanwhile, by the 20th year, the intensity of interaction between NATO and Sweden with Finland will only increase. The complexes will cover the southern mainland military facilities of the Swedes and about.Gotland, from which about 300 km to Kaliningrad. If NATO places such weapons in its Baltic countries, then it will block (x2) our military airlines over the sea. This is such an unexpected bonus, but the main threat comes from the objects that these complexes will cover. NATO will try to pull as many strike weapons there as possible.
    P.S. It’s as if Western analysts are afraid of the Iskanders --- it’s excusable for them, they are fulfilling the tasks of their military and politicians (in order to move the strike weapons to the Russian border more powerful). But that’s all ... how does the article about new bases, airfields and .t. NATO, so immediately you’re slapping them with Iskanders. Compare the number of such objects with Iskanders (which will be under attack). Do not offer nuclear equipment --- the conflict in the first stage will be carried out with conventional weapons, because we have atomic parity.
    1. GibSoN
      GibSoN 19 July 2018 21: 10
      0
      You are fundamentally wrong! The current trend, suggests that the presence of the Russian “Daggers”, “Vanguards” and other useful material, fundamentally changes everything that is possible! We are capable of destroying literally the whole WORLD ... Think of some ancient minutemans with tridents ... Sofas, they certainly do not threaten. Apparently the "Shell" and S-400 (a modification of the S-300, which in the entire history of its existence, has never been used in a real battle), they beat even at the start ...
  12. Alban
    Alban 19 July 2018 18: 32
    0
    US Patriot air defense systems unable to protect their European allies

    If the mess begins with the United States, then Europe will be the first to evaporate in a nuclear strike, the United States will live a little longer .. That's the whole defense from Russia!
    And with us, someone will survive anyway ..
    The Israeli military tried to shoot down an Iranian UAV with a US missile, but after two misses, the helicopter had to be raised to destroy the drone. In Yemen's 2017, the Patriot was unable to hit several primitive Hussite missiles.

    And this would only cut the money .. Survival rate will be very high, where no one knows (maybe Birobidzhan ..))))
  13. GibSoN
    GibSoN 19 July 2018 20: 59
    0
    In terms of air defense, should the complex work perfectly for missile defense objectives? Is this humor like that?
  14. rocket757
    rocket757 19 July 2018 21: 44
    0
    Can little Sweden attack Russia? No!
    Can Greater Russia Attack NATO Member? No?
    And then just a business, nothing personal! You to me, I to you!
  15. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 20 July 2018 00: 51
    0
    The Patriot strikes not with a direct hit, but with fragments. Even if it exploded near Scud, but the splinters didn’t fall into the warhead, and into the body empty of fuel, Scud continues to fly further towards the target.
    Therefore, both the United States and Israel switched to a direct hit in missile defense missiles.
    Patriot will not stop Iskander. Against Iskander, the Sling of David may work (and not 100%). But it must be established on the path of Iskander, and not near his goal.
    1. Charik
      Charik 20 July 2018 13: 48
      0
      David's sling. Is it so square there are a bunch of rockets looking upright?
  16. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 20 July 2018 01: 08
    0
    And if there weren’t “Petriots”, the “Iskanders” wouldn’t have put them if he had turned his apartment into a rotten stash, do not be surprised that when the brothel is destroyed, the apartment will be smashed. laughing
  17. Old26
    Old26 20 July 2018 10: 14
    0
    Quote: Gargantua
    What is the author’s logic? If the Patriots cannot bring down the Iskanders, then they should not be bought? Even if they do not destroy our missiles, they still pose a great danger to our aircraft, especially with other medium and short-range air defense systems. Iskander missiles for all purposes are not enough and it is not advisable to shoot them at all targets. Iskanders and warehouses for storing their missiles in the Kaliningrad region - this will be the primary goal for NATO aviation and artillery. So this "noodle" is designed for cheers, no more.

    Although you, comrade, sometimes write posts that cause denial or rejection, in this case I agree with you. article is complete nonsense. Designed primarily for the western man in the street. Unfortunately, you can’t minus articles, and I’d gladly put a minus. The author, albeit a Western one, wrote in the best traditions of domestic cheers-patriotic articles

    Quote: Kasym
    After all, the author gives examples on Iraq, the SA and Israel - maybe these SAMs are not as good as they are advertised ?! Are they worth the cost?

    The author is an outspoken sucker, like an article through and through custom-made. The main goal is to scare your own layman. Interestingly, such authors will long remember the fiasco of these complexes in Iraq in 1991? The author at least knows (there is no question of understanding) that during the First War, rockets of the FIRST modification, designed to destroy aerodynamic targets, were used in the bay. This is about the same as using S-75 or S-125 type air defense missiles to repel a raid and complaining that they worked poorly. Over the years, the complex has been modernized many times and the Swedes are buying a complex with PAC-3 MSE missiles, adapted specifically to intercept ballistic targets. Moreover, the damage range of this missile is 1,5 times higher than that of the previous RAS-3

    Quote: Jack O'Neill
    And our air defense systems are good, as advertised? Maybe our SAMs are not worth the cost?

    This, Yuri, will become clear only after the first battle. While this is pure theorizing

    Quote: Jack O'Neill
    The "Patriot" has a real - combat experience, ours do not. I'm talking about S-300 and above. wink
    I mean, do not underestimate the Americans, and the same "Patriot", as well as put in comparison with the air defense system, which "no gunpowder smelled."

    That's right. Moreover, not the last role in the success of weapons, including and SAM plays staff, his training. If the calculation is crooked, then give them at least S-500, at least S-5000, the result will be minimal.


    Quote: Kasym
    Yuri, but those “dinosaurs” of S-75, etc. not a little blood was drunk by the Americans in Vietnam, etc .. wink . It must be assumed that their "descendants" took into account the weaknesses of their ancestors and received their "zest". Well, judging by how events took place in Syria after the deployment of the air defense system of the Russian Federation, it can be assumed that their "partners" respected them very much ... If they were such ... the US allies in the region would not in turn to line up that the US has to put pressure on them. hi
    I just assume that the Patriots are not as good as they are advertised.

    The competition of air defense systems resembles the competition of armor and shell, armor and sword ... Everyone tries to add some zest to nullify the successes of the other side. I can give a couple of examples from the Vietnam War as an example. When shooting at the B-52 in Vietnam, the Americans used such a novelty as a small Quail missile. It was used as a means of counteraction during the attacks of the Soviet S-75. The number of losses of B-52 from the actions of the S-75 air defense system decreased. And vice versa. The Americans used Shrike anti-radar missiles in Vietnam, which were guided by radar radiation. After several radars of this complex were destroyed, ours came up with a combat option. Knowing that the rocket does not remember the direction to the source, our calculations began to use two stations for this, which were periodically turned on and off. For example, a missile is aimed at radar number 1 - it turns off and turns on radar number 2. Shrike loses target. But even if it can reconfigure to radar number 2 - the same process occurs. Turns off No. 2 and turns on No. 1. You understand that they are separated in space. Over time, Americans have modernized their anti-radar missile so that it remembers the original target. This focus has stopped working.

    Further events in the same Iraq in the early 90s. The Americans were able to use the jamming environment in such a way as to "clog" the Iraqi radar stations, both the air defense radar and the airplanes. We applied such a level of interference, which was many times higher than that which was necessary in order to “score”. Ours conducted exercises on Kapyar, which, alas, ended in failure. With this level of interference, NONE OF THE COMPLEXES could not use the radar path. Only the one that also had an alternative system (TV or optical) worked. This was a shock to developers. There, on Kapyar, the developer of our complexes Lemansky died of a heart attack. But over time, we were able to do something in this regard.

    Only our battle will show how our complexes will behave. And "respected" actually for the characteristics. Most of the old complexes that are in Syria have been tested by the war in the Middle East. Why not respect if they showed good results. But then again. It all depends on the calculation. Krivoruky he or not

    Quote: SETTGF
    Jack O'Neill! Do not write about someone who sniffed gunpowder ... The S-300 and S-400 will pleasantly surprise you and others in their range of application, noise immunity and other parameters. Therefore, it is better not to put Patriot on the level of Russian complexes! Combat experience showed that Patriot spent up to 4 to hit the Scud missile! Keep the gunpowder for yourself!

    Eugene! In principle, you are also engaged in cap-making now. Yes, the level of our complexes is very high, but no one knows how they will behave in battle, when the enemy will use the full range of means to combat them. The second mistake of kmk among many is that they a priori believe that our very best. Therefore, it is possible to say whether the Patriot will bring down Iskander only on newspaper pages and on the Internet. How calculations will be trained, how electronic warfare equipment will be applied. The teachings are one thing, and running into battle - you yourself understand this completely different ...
    1. Charik
      Charik 20 July 2018 13: 58
      0
      Yes, the same thing only with planes was already with Su27 in the last century, uncles flew to America, and then the Indians on Su30 plucked them
    2. Sanichsan
      Sanichsan 20 July 2018 15: 49
      +1
      in my opinion you are mistaken at the root. buy Patiriot = pay for the US protectorate. as well as with F35. how much you can rely on the concept of "US support" can be understood by the example of Georgia in 2008. They were promised a lot, but everyone knows the result. everything was limited to the stench in the media space.
  18. Gardarika
    Gardarika 20 July 2018 14: 58
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    And why are the Swedes so busy, they are a neutral country
  19. Hiller
    Hiller 23 July 2018 23: 08
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    What did the Vikings commit? Do not fall for commercials because of the "puddle"