Dashing surprises from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation: shots with "Petrel", "Poseidon" and "Peresvet"

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The Ministry of Defense publishes footage testing the latest (prospective) weapons. In addition to the shows of the launching of combat elements of the Dagger and Avant-garde, the defense department presented tests of the Peresvet combat laser complex.

Dashing surprises from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation: shots with "Petrel", "Poseidon" and "Peresvet"




The shots demonstrate how cars leave the hangars, on the chassis of which are installed the same laser warheads with power supply systems. The appearance of the mobile battery is impressive. At the same time, the capacity of the plant is kept secret. After the order of the commander "To perform the combat task to begin," military equipment is transferred to a given square for the implementation of pilot operations. On the frames you can see how the installation "Peresvet" positions the combat unit, directing it to the target. In this case, the operation of the laser itself is not demonstrated.



The Defense Ministry also demonstrates a test episode of the armament, which was called the “Petrel”. In the future, this is a cruise missile with a nuclear power plant, which ensures virtually no time-limited flight. Within a few seconds, the flight of the rocket is taken from the aircraft. Next, the factory workshop is demonstrated, where the “Petrel” variant is shown in the launch module.



Video from "Petrel":


Also, the domestic Ministry of Defense demonstrated the appearance of the ocean multi-purpose system "Poseidon."



The tail and the screw "Poseidon" prudently "blurred" on the frames. At the same time, the video demonstrates the rotational ability of the plumage elements of the underwater system.

The video in the animation mode demonstrated the potential use of this unique system that is capable of delivering a nuclear warhead under water to the desired target. As one of the targets, the carrier strike group of the conditional enemy is shown. And in this world, frankly, not so many states possess aircraft strike groups ...

From the material of the Information Department of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation:
The unique capabilities of the device will allow the Navy Fleet fight with carrier-based and naval strike groups of a potential enemy in any direction of the oceanic theater of operations, hit objects of coastal infrastructure at an intercontinental range.




It was noted that Russia continues to implement measures to strengthen its military security.
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  1. +16
    19 July 2018 13: 50
    Now howl will intensify from all sides.
    1. +25
      19 July 2018 13: 59
      As it turns out, I missed a lot of new products for the year of absence. Petrels, Poseidons, Relights of all sorts. Rockets are already being built with nuclear weapons. I can’t get enough straight good good
      1. +4
        19 July 2018 15: 06
        Welcome back fellow
        1. +9
          19 July 2018 16: 27
          World Cup is over. We talked with trump ...
          Time to recall your strength. wink
          1. 0
            20 July 2018 10: 58
            We talked with Trump - and didn’t agree, apparently, since these pictures were made public ... and the VKS parallel news ironed the isles at the Dutch heights and in southern Syria
      2. 0
        19 July 2018 19: 13
        And why are the red rockets? To be seen further?
        This is likely to be either target missiles or experimental models.
        Poseidon pleased the torpedo hellishly hefty. How many explosives are there? am am am
        1. 0
          20 July 2018 20: 46
          Advocate no less than megatons
      3. +10
        19 July 2018 21: 30
        Quote: Wiruz
        As it turns out, I missed a lot of new products for the year of absence. Petrels, Poseidons, Relights of all sorts. Rockets are already being built with nuclear weapons. I can’t get enough straight good good


        Now we’ll definitely live! And officials will stop stealing and salaries with pensions will rise and justice in the country will finally come!

        And absolutely do not give a damn that the “Guarantor” carries nonsense about lasers and hypersound and everyone somehow forgot about the fundamental laws of physics. And that engineers and designers in Russia haven’t been fed and produced since 25. Like a pike command! The main thing is to make the appearance of something "breakthrough", "unparalleled" as it was with "Caliber" and "Armata", even if this breakthrough was created and developed in a completely different country called the USSR. The main plebs "grabs" pseudo-patriotic nonsense, and then they come up with something like this: We didn’t succeed a bit ... she drowned ... or we’ll work on "new physical principles" (apparently this phrase Rogozin himself paired up with Patriarch Kirill )

        Generally bread and circuses gentlemen!

        PS Starting in 1991, Russia has not produced anything of its own and has not even built a single large plant, which they built in the USSR during the five-year period. Everything from the fact that the current greedy, stupid head power is not going to live and create in this country (all their offspring and wives as an example). In addition to stealing and parasitizing people, under "pseudo-patriotic" slogans. They are at war with the Soviet legacy and with the history of the USSR. At the same time, hiding behind precisely the achievements of the USSR in the field of Victory over fascism, the achievements of Soviet science and industry. Only this power and government have nothing to do with the victories, discoveries and achievements of the USSR. Since modern power, their direct ideological, economic and political opponents. According to the simple "Bourgeois". Deflate the People's Property. Along the way, finishing education and soul taxes simple workers. And the revenues in Russia from the sale of Public Property go to completely different pockets. And the people receive cookies with butter instead of wealth, economic development and the rise of industry. And their “innovations”, “modernizations” and “optimizations” are moving the country more and more towards a cesspool. And besides, they save money and invest in the economy of that country, which we are presented with as an “enemy."

        Sincerely.
        1. +2
          20 July 2018 06: 23
          And here is a howl ... Forward to the cemetery from thieves and deception
          1. +1
            20 July 2018 09: 46
            gaura

            So this is from topic to topic, like a carbon copy ....
            1. 0
              20 July 2018 20: 31
              Quote: NN52
              So this is from topic to topic, like a carbon copy ....


              And the fact that the questions and answers over the years are the same.
              And many do not want to learn to think with their heads, or at least check what they are told.

              From year to year the same thing! And I’m just too lazy to write a new comment when the causes and effects are the same.

              There will be an article or a report about how some kind of official received conditionally for 3 a billion stolen money or he took down a kindergarten, and he built a summer house on this place.

              Angry comments from Vasya, Sing and others are pouring ... Osuzhdams! Osujdams! Osujdams!

              And then these same Vasya and Petit, under an article about another non-existent “newest” one that has no analogues and “violates” the physical principles of wunderwafl. Despite the fact that it was developed during the USSR, that there are analogues and that physical principles are unchanged and it’s impossible to break them, they can only be overcome.

              They write: Approved! Approved! Approved!

              And it happens every day!

              And these Vasya and Sing do not reach the cerebellum that he lives in one country, with one system and leadership. What if the state pays the teacher of physics 15 thousand rubles, and the regional deputy 300 thousand rubles, then this state does not need smart people. That when the key rate of the Central Bank is about 8%, this means that the state is not going to develop industry and production. That when the offspring of all our "leaders" live abroad, it means that they do not want the future of their children in this country. That when all our funds are stored precisely in those countries that the Kremlin presents to us as “enemies”, this means that they are not going to invest and invest this money in the economy of their country. And so on...

              Stop believing in fairy tales. There are no bad boyars and a good king! And there are no bees against honey! And there are arcs ... on the humps and on whose property those who created this system and set up this manual make a fortune.

              PS Speaking at a conference held as part of the All-Russian youth forum Seliger-2007 organized by the Our Movement, Education Minister Andrei Fursenko said: ... the drawback of the Soviet education system was the attempt to shape a creative person, and now the challenge is to raise a skilled a consumer who is able to skillfully use the results of creativity of others.

              Here you have the power and shoves their "creativity" into their heads.

              Sincerely.
              1. +1
                20 July 2018 20: 39
                Saburov

                I recommend that you go to the clinic, and measure the pressure ... Suddenly high?
                Heal pzhl ...
                1. 0
                  20 July 2018 20: 45
                  Quote: NN52
                  I recommend that you go to the clinic, and measure the pressure ... Suddenly high?


                  Sumptuously! Directly "overwhelmed" me with their "counterargument"!
          2. 0
            20 July 2018 20: 01
            Quote: gaura
            And here is a howl ... Forward to the cemetery from thieves and deception


            Earnestly! Reasonedly! I'm running!
            1. +1
              20 July 2018 20: 41
              Saburov

              And run away? You most importantly breathe correctly ...
              1. 0
                20 July 2018 20: 46
                Quote: NN52
                Saburov

                And run away? You most importantly breathe correctly ...


                Why should I breathe? If we breathe a lot, then the air tax will definitely be introduced.
                1. +1
                  20 July 2018 20: 53
                  Saburov

                  I recommended that you personally breathe ... And you do not need to think and decide for everyone ..
                  1. +1
                    20 July 2018 20: 56
                    Saburov
                    How old are you? Can you honestly answer?
                    1. 0
                      20 July 2018 21: 10
                      Quote: NN52
                      Saburov
                      How old are you? Can you honestly answer?


                      When he entered the CTU at 1983, it was 18. Now I do not know.

                      1. +2
                        20 July 2018 21: 13
                        Saburov

                        I entered 1989 in ABVACUL, I was 17 ...
                        I have nothing against the masters //
        2. +1
          20 July 2018 10: 48
          You have a complex in relation to Russia and all-out comparison with the USSR .... and the laws of physics are expanding every ten years, when even steam installations were considered the height of engineering ... you don’t have to constantly live with an eye on the USSR, which has already passed. ... (although I myself am very sorry for the Union)
          1. 0
            20 July 2018 20: 43
            Quote: Alexey-74
            You have a complex in relation to Russia and all-out comparison with the USSR


            There is no complex. Everything is relative.

            Quote: Alexey-74
            and the laws of physics are expanding every ten years


            This saying gets FIRST PLACE for this year!

            This is your young man in your head stupidity can expand! And the laws of physics remain low throughout the existence of the universe! Briefcase in hand and run back to school to study!

            Quote: Alexey-74
            once steam plants were considered the height of engineering


            How is this connected with the “violation” of the laws of physics?

            Quote: Alexey-74
            no need to constantly live with an eye on the USSR, what was already passed ...


            I don’t look back, I just remind naive "pseudo-patriots" that you need to love the homeland and the people. And with what it is necessary to compare modern Russian science, industry and the economy. That they would understand what is DEGRADATION.

            Sincerely.
    2. +13
      19 July 2018 13: 59
      Quote: Going
      howl

      Ballad About Fight
      ...
      And tried to comprehend - we who did not know wars,
      Those who took the war cry howl-
      The secret of the word “order”, the designation of borders,
      The meaning of the attack and the clash of war chariots.
      1. +11
        19 July 2018 14: 20
        Wednesday candles and evening prayers,
        Wednesday military trophies and peace fires,
        Lived book children who did not know the battles,
        Languishing from their small disasters.


        Only V. Vysotsky could do that.
    3. +9
      19 July 2018 14: 00
      Purely in our .. We smell of all the trunks .. laughing .Although well done, of course.
    4. +2
      19 July 2018 14: 05
      So this only confirms that an exchange of views is possible on the site! hi Smoke wassat !!!
      1. +20
        19 July 2018 14: 38
        I'll start a howl.

        wow. It is cool.

        Really not impressive.

        Given the economic interests of the existing type of economy, capitalism. In the confrontation between states - the arms race, the material part can be replaced by a "virtual" one. More precisely, by misleading the enemy about the presence of - wunderwafers are super weapons.

        And each of the videos has elements of incompleteness.

        For example, a child prodigy leaves and does not shoot.
        Or production workers create VISIBILITY of production. No tools available. Work of workers does not show the desire to get the final result.
        Animation of principles.

        In general, an outburst of information designed not to scare a potential adversary, but is designed to reassure CITIZENS of their STATE in the success of the leadership of the state.

        LYING.
        1. +8
          19 July 2018 14: 45
          There is such an expression good pont is more expensive than money laughing I don’t know if I can eat or not, I don’t know fellow
          1. +5
            19 July 2018 15: 11
            Quote: Siberia 9444
            is there or not I can’t judge

            this is the whole catch. option itself "what if there is"will force many opponents to reconsider their military plans for the Russian Federation
            1. +7
              19 July 2018 17: 10
              Quote: gladcu2
              Really not impressive.


              Your "not impressive" is not at all impressive, and does not matter.

              It is designed for those who have real information, not emotional cries with howls.

              And they get what they need

              And they will think and make a decision.

              Most likely, these videos and messages are only part of a large and multi-way game.

              Then let's look at the result.

              Maybe tomorrow, maybe in a year or ten.

              We are not given to know

              You can howl or laugh, it's up to you
              1. 0
                20 July 2018 10: 00
                Quote: bulvas
                Quote: gladcu2
                Really not impressive.


                Your "not impressive" is not at all impressive, and does not matter.

                It is designed for those who have real information, not emotional cries with howls.

                And they get what they need

                And they will think and make a decision.

                Most likely, these videos and messages are only part of a large and multi-way game.

                Then let's look at the result.

                Maybe tomorrow, maybe in a year or ten.

                We are not given to know

                You can howl or laugh, it's up to you

                And what have you done now? Showed what to eat? And why then does the site exist if everything that needs to be addressed to others? Why then discuss? You know for sure that those endowed with power are uniquely smarter than those who are not endowed and do not want to ... but just decided to read, to clarify something for themselves and express their opinion, while not taking into account that you can, and that’s all the rest is howling .. winked
                1. 0
                  20 July 2018 12: 30
                  Quote: victor50
                  And what have you done now?


                  Wrote my opinion on the topic

                  Quote: victor50
                  You know for sure that those endowed with power are uniquely smarter than those who are not endowed with and do not want to.


                  No, I don’t think so
                  But there is more information and analysis in power than we do.
                  If you do not believe the authorities at all, then why should it be elected and approved?

                  Not to believe and not to support means what?
                  That's right, anarchy, where such monsters come up that any past power seems to be the highest good.

                  If you do not agree - remember the 90s
                  1. 0
                    23 July 2018 15: 57
                    Quote: bulvas
                    If you do not believe the authorities at all, then why should it be elected and approved?
                    Not to believe and not to support means what?
                    That's right, anarchy, where such monsters come up that any past power seems to be the highest good.
                    If you do not agree - remember the 90s

                    1. Personally, I did not elect.
                    2. And in the 90-power is not elected? Many elections were more honest then than now. I agree with the result. Then maybe not elect ?! winked
          2. +9
            19 July 2018 16: 14
            Alexander, then the full expression:
            "A good show is more expensive than money, but there are no show-offs to show off."
            To call these developments bespontovoy language no one will turn.
            I ask myself: why is this demonstration after meeting with Trump?
            Apparently in order to put the US and Russian defense ministers at the negotiating table. Well, in order to show the pointlessness in the American missile defense and star wars on the eve of these negotiations - to return the missile defense treaty. Another assumption is that GDP is responsible for the "bazaar" and it makes sense to carefully and seriously treat any of its statements. hi
          3. 0
            19 July 2018 16: 27
            Quote: Siberia 9444
            There is such an expression good pont is more expensive than money laughing I don’t know if I can eat or not, I don’t know fellow

            They forgot to upload another video. laughing
            1. +1
              19 July 2018 17: 23
              What is baking?
              Pukana bombarda?
        2. +2
          19 July 2018 14: 52
          It may be so, but it may be otherwise. Do not count the options.
        3. +6
          19 July 2018 15: 47
          Indeed, again they threw a video that looked like a bad election cartoon. And Poseidon in general looks like a torpedo of the USSR Type 65-73 caliber 650 mm. A missile with a nuclear power plant generally causes laughter. A nuclear reactor is a very heavy thing, even without taking into account the weight of the biological defense. There is no evidence of a new weapon;
          1. +5
            19 July 2018 15: 58
            Sorry, they didn’t report to you laughing
          2. +9
            19 July 2018 16: 46
            Quote: NKVD
            A nuclear reactor thing is very heavy even without taking into account the weight of the biological protection.

            Who told you that there is a full-fledged nuclear reactor? Just a “nuclear battery” is enough - roughly speaking, a certain amount of radioactive material, where decay occurs and a sufficient amount of heat is released, which is then used during engine operation. Similar developments existed in the USSR too, so get familiar with the topic before making "laughter."
          3. +4
            19 July 2018 21: 06
            Quote: NKVD
            A nuclear reactor thing is very heavy even without taking into account the weight of the biological protection

            Are you a nuclear physicist? In the subject of recent developments and with tolerance?
          4. +1
            20 July 2018 10: 06
            Quote: NKVD
            There is no evidence of a new weapon;

            And who needs proof and for whom? At one time, our elite believed in Star Wars. The result was more terrible than they would have begun - one of the steps to the collapse of a powerful power. Maybe there is such a calculation, and God forbid, a similar result! laughing Well, the quality of the materials ... I don’t know. If we say that it is designed for us, then ... I would like evidence. But the enemy too! laughing
        4. +1
          20 July 2018 18: 19
          And I believe him. All the same, she spins. And the fact that Ukrainians rage is good. Though I have a little of their blood. Yes, it’s not good to offend the younger ones.
          But after the younger ones shout “America with us” them (the younger ones must be beaten, rest and beat again), which they would remember for generations.
        5. +1
          20 July 2018 21: 21
          In general, an outburst of information designed not to scare a potential adversary, but is designed to reassure CITIZENS of their STATE in the success of the leadership of the state.
          LYING
          .
          They showed you at the very beginning shots with launch and flight, then they show the workshop that the rocket is in series. And you thought you would be shown the workshop as-is-tools, machines, economic feasibility, as well as a schematic diagram.
          Your post amused me a little lol
    5. +4
      19 July 2018 14: 41
      It can be seen that the summit was excellent. Or is it the promised commercials for the Fox presenter? laughing
      1. +10
        19 July 2018 15: 08
        Dancing grandmothers, and somersaulting grandfathers do not roll, decided again to "put pressure" on "patriotism" (it used to roll well) -threw the next batch of "cartoons" .... laughing lol
        1. +5
          19 July 2018 16: 47
          Quote: Snail N9
          threw the next batch of "cartoons"

          Well, if people are hailing the same “cartoons” in the United States, then what will we have from? Democracy of the weapons shown is not enough?
        2. +5
          19 July 2018 18: 44
          Quote: Snail N9
          Dancing grandmothers, and somersaulting grandfathers do not roll, decided again to "put pressure" on "patriotism" (it used to roll well) -threw the next batch of "cartoons" .... laughing lol

          What does not suit you? Americans, with all the beauty and power of cinema, sculpt cartoons no worse. Everything is explained by secrecy.
          And that publishes DARPA
    6. +3
      19 July 2018 20: 28
      I recalled a series of "The Simpsons" about the leader (the head of the sect) and the secret hangar (where a spaceship was allegedly being built on the property of the sectarians) whoever looked at him would understand that I was.
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    8. 0
      19 July 2018 21: 36
      Why so? There are no contradictions with these. As there are no unrealistic characteristics, as with the Vanguard.
      I especially liked Poseidon - a very promising topic for us. If the mind and quiet develop.
      1. +2
        19 July 2018 21: 54
        All the furnace of war. Sad, scary, expensive!
        Develop or breed the enemy ??? The result is obvious, everyone who can actively ARMS!
        When a rustle hangs on the wall, what could eventually happen ???
        1. +2
          19 July 2018 22: 14
          Quote: rocket757
          When a rustle hangs on the wall, what could eventually happen ???

          If you don’t touch the classics, then as an option: a man will come, he will take it off the wall, take it apart, clean it, assemble it ... and hang it back on the wall. In short, if anything, we will be informed. laughing
          1. +1
            19 July 2018 22: 25
            Of course, normal maintenance, t.c. it is right!
            But where are you without classics? They are. either describe the past, or predict the future!
            However, there is an option, they will gather again at the Finns, or even those who are neutral and resolve / resolve / close the most nasty topics! Although used for a while!
            1. +2
              19 July 2018 22: 37
              Quote: rocket757
              will gather again at the Finns or even from which, neutral, and resolve / resolve / close the most nasty topics! Although used for a while!

              So, so it happens. And it’s “rusty” ... And it’s just to continue to gather in Helsinki, and not on Kulikovo or Borodinsky. hi
              1. +1
                19 July 2018 23: 29
                Everything is correct, it’s righter, caliber is more generous, it contributes to the negotiability of both of these!
            2. +1
              20 July 2018 08: 55
              Quote: rocket757
              where without classics? They are. either describe the past, or predict the future!

              Of the two classic postulates:
              1) The whole world is a theater, and the people in it are actors (William Shakespeare)
              2) If at the beginning of the play a gun hangs on the wall, then it must shoot (A.P. Chekhov)
              the conclusion follows: in a theater called peace, a shot from a gun is inevitable.
              1. 0
                20 July 2018 13: 16
                Oh, I don’t want to see it .... it may happen that it will be the last thing I saw, in general!
  2. +22
    19 July 2018 13: 51
    Weapons with their kind should deter from aggression ... and it seems scared ...
    1. +2
      19 July 2018 14: 12
      I think you're right, Colleague ....
    2. +1
      19 July 2018 14: 25
      Quote: Vard
      Weapons with their kind should deter from aggression ...

      I agree completely.
      Quote: Vard
      and it seems scared ...

      If specifically about the laser, then why ??? There is no combat use, the consequences of its use, too ... Not scary.
      1. +2
        19 July 2018 14: 28
        Quote: Archivist Vasya
        Quote: Vard
        Weapons with their kind should deter from aggression ...
        I agree completely.
        Quote: Vard
        and it seems scared ...
        If specifically about the laser, then why ??? There is no combat use, the consequences of its use, too ... Not scary.

        Accurate and cheap air defense / missile defense
    3. +4
      19 July 2018 15: 07
      In our case, you can scare the animated girls with the one in the topic. Looks scared in the subject.
  3. +3
    19 July 2018 14: 00
    I hate targeted advertising, which all the time diligently reminds you how old are you
    never buy advertised by this scot ... m goods
    1. +6
      19 July 2018 14: 52
      Are you on the topic of the article, or simply, in the heat of the fury from targeted contextual advertising?
      If the first, then I already broke my head belay how weapons advertising can remind you of age ?! laughing
      1. +2
        19 July 2018 22: 17
        Quote: Hottabych
        how can weapons advertising remind you of age ?!

        As an option (with a logical chain): advertising weapons - memories of the service - memories of how long ago it was - awareness of your current age. laughing
  4. +23
    19 July 2018 14: 00
    By the way, in three products there are nuclear generation systems, in two reactors in one engine. This is what Kiriyenko got GR for.
    1. +7
      19 July 2018 14: 12
      If this is true, then you can hang the second on your chest boldly!
      1. +7
        19 July 2018 14: 24
        Well, given that before that they gave premiums for hypersound, then it’s quite for themselves. But in reality, compact nuclear weapons are a huge step into the future.
        1. +1
          19 July 2018 16: 17
          A huge step towards the lack of a future!
          1. +3
            19 July 2018 16: 48
            Quote: alex-s
            A huge step towards the lack of a future!

            Oga - it was precisely because of this very nuclear weapons that the Third World War did not happen and will not happen until there is effective nuclear deterrence, so think ...
    2. +2
      19 July 2018 14: 34
      It’s also interesting if the Burevestnik has a nuclear engine! (The dimensions of the rocket are relatively small ..), then why does Peresvet have such a big battery in the back ...
      Reactor?
      1. +3
        19 July 2018 14: 43
        Yes, it’s it as an option, Google ATGOR.
      2. +1
        19 July 2018 14: 54
        Rather Capacitors
        1. 0
          19 July 2018 21: 39
          Similarly, it is the capacitor bank that must be present or something that replaces it effectively.
      3. +3
        19 July 2018 15: 11
        A reactor cannot provide energy much and quickly. It is slowly gaining power, it is not suitable for a combat laser. Unless only for industrial. Or as a pump capacitor.
  5. +10
    19 July 2018 14: 01
    A ragul Wendigo squinting under the Russian said that these are only pictures. Again he fell into a puddle of face!
    1. 0
      20 July 2018 01: 11
      They do not crawl out of the puddle.
  6. +2
    19 July 2018 14: 03
    Spies all over the world, register on the site wassat , and over time you will learn all our secrets belay In my opinion, the main thing is not to accidentally or intentionally show something that will give the adversary even a drop of classified information.
  7. +6
    19 July 2018 14: 06
    It looks like it's all cheap, maybe the drone for 400 bucks and burns, or maybe it's just a flashlight, the US reporting to the taxpayers showed the laser in action.
    1. +4
      19 July 2018 14: 07
      And the price tag per shot?
    2. +3
      19 July 2018 14: 15
      Quote: 100502
      It looks like it's all cheap, maybe the drone for 400 bucks and burns, or maybe it's just a flashlight, the US reporting to the taxpayers showed the laser in action.

      But there are no application frames for the purpose, only deployment. So where could you see the flashlight or anything else?
      1. +1
        19 July 2018 14: 27
        I exaggerated.
    3. +11
      19 July 2018 14: 33
      google friend last year a video accidentally went into net there is a laser shooting and in cloudy weather he shot down drones and some missiles and even some birds God forgive me. I saw this ofigel thought hat next to Kamaz a small kung stands and this is a generator. And the Amerzovskiy laser is almost carrying the power station. And then in March, Putin presented. Our Kulibins are the best in the world!
      Well, for people like you, everything is bad with us!
    4. +8
      19 July 2018 15: 02
      Quote: 100502
      USA reporting to taxpayers

      laughing What taxpayers are you talking about? This is a mythical picture of films of the 80-90s. This state is robbing the whole world and feeding its taxpayers. And trying to convince these citizens that their state is creating lawlessness around the world is useless. Someone will feed.
      Therefore, this phrase is from a beautiful past ...
      1. +3
        19 July 2018 15: 22
        He waited almost half an hour, but no one cried about a state that feeds the whole world and robs its taxpayers! lol Ay?
  8. +5
    19 July 2018 14: 10
    I looked at the second video, cursed at the lack of sounds and remembered the anecdote.
    THE USSR.
    Kuban is going to issue "on the mountain" 1000000 tons of rice.
    The Japanese were alarmed and equipped an expedition to familiarize themselves with the technology of growing such a crop in such indecent conditions.
    A delegation rides and sees in a rice check there is a combine harvester and next to the 24 I Volga.
    The combiner talks in elevated tones with the chairman of the collective farm.
    The head of the delegation tells the translator - go listen to what they are talking about.
    The translator returns in 15 minutes and confusedly says that most likely the information will not be interesting.
    The head of the delegation insists.
    The translator says.
    The one in a suit and tie tells the one in the sweatshirt that he was in an intimate relationship with his mother.
    And the one in the sweatshirt informed the one in a suit and tie that he was in an intimate relationship with himself, with his mother, with a combine and with a million tons of Kuban rice.
    It is a pity that the video is not voiced.
  9. +12
    19 July 2018 14: 11
    This is all great, of course, but as long as people are happy with the show of new toys, dragging the pension reform does not stand still. The championship is over, there was a pause (criticism and dissatisfaction with the reform are growing) - and here, hop! - here's a new fun, kids. Just do not distract important uncles from reforms for the benefit of their karma... pah, of the Fatherland.
    1. +6
      19 July 2018 14: 46
      About pensions in another topic, go
    2. +4
      19 July 2018 14: 55
      How many taxes do you pay to the budget, if not secret?
    3. +2
      19 July 2018 16: 33
      Quote: Kuroneko
      ATGOR.

      raising the retirement age WILL and no where we will not get away from it (you just need to take it as inevitability). higher VAT and fuel prices are much more serious than an ambush. and on the account of the “new fun” I suspect more interesting events are coming: “Putin warned about the consequences of Ukraine and Georgia joining NATO.” , and "Putin said the threat of an aggravation of the situation in the Donbass." By the way, topics for VO are interesting
      so the demonstration of new weapons is by no means accidental and is not intended to distract you from protest moods, but rather to foreign curators of these moods.
    4. 0
      19 July 2018 21: 12
      Quote: Kuroneko
      pushing pension reform does not stand still.

      And "at all progressive mankind" how many years they retire, do not tell? Specifically by country?
      1. +2
        19 July 2018 21: 52
        You study one side of the coin, but keep quiet about the other, my friend. Incorrect, however.
  10. +3
    19 July 2018 14: 11
    I have big questions about the petrel. Who is in the subject? Is it possible with a nuclear installation that a rocket can start like that? How much will everything be louder after its loop if it is direct-flow?
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    2. +1
      19 July 2018 14: 20
      Well, in some cities, people drink water from the secondary circuit of nuclear power plant reactors. True, they are not told about this. It seems alive.
    3. +2
      19 July 2018 14: 39
      I have big questions about the petrel. Who is in the subject? Is it possible with a nuclear installation that a rocket can start like that? How much will everything be louder after its loop if it is direct-flow?

      Rather, there is a separate starting engine, and the YaSU provides flight on the march
    4. +1
      19 July 2018 14: 52
      If YaU is closed, nothing will fonit there.
      1. +3
        19 July 2018 14: 59
        then the weight comes out of the box.
        1. +2
          19 July 2018 15: 12
          Well, that's what innovation is for, so that the first for the second does not come out.
    5. +4
      19 July 2018 15: 51
      Quote: spirit
      Can a rocket start like this with a nuclear installation?

      The first stage may be in the form of solid propellant rocket motors.
      Quote: spirit
      how much will everything flash after its plume if it is direct-flow?

      As long as the fuel elements are intact, there will be no loop. Induced radiation will be only on the Kyrgyz Republic itself.
      1. +1
        19 July 2018 16: 37
        enlighten, this petrel right now there in theory still flies ?! is he kind of long-playing !?
        1. +1
          19 July 2018 21: 13
          Quote: artifact
          enlighten, this petrel right now there in theory still flies ?! is he kind of long-playing !?

          Yes, so look up, no matter what happens!
          1. 0
            20 July 2018 00: 20
            Quote: konstantin68
            Quote: artifact
            enlighten, this petrel right now there in theory still flies ?! is he kind of long-playing !?

            Yes, so look up, no matter what happens!

            flew here the other day - toli petrel, toli neighbor on a broomstick, did not make out .....
        2. +1
          19 July 2018 22: 30
          Quote: artifact
          enlighten, this petrel right now there in theory still flies ?!
          The one that was first launched is still not able to catch.
          1. +1
            20 July 2018 00: 22
            Quote: Simargl
            Quote: artifact
            enlighten, this petrel right now there in theory still flies ?!
            The one that was first launched is still not able to catch.

            let it fly - the petrel is a freestyle bird ...
        3. +1
          20 July 2018 01: 05
          Quote: artifact
          enlighten, this petrel right now there in theory still flies ?! is he kind of long-playing !?

          The experiment program during the last launches was successful. So all the new CR "Petrel" has long been taken away from the landfill.
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    7. +2
      19 July 2018 21: 54
      When the "petrels", God forbid, fly at "H", the background will no longer interest anyone.
  11. +5
    19 July 2018 14: 11
    What a holiday today! Now we’ll find out about the lunar rover with the astronaut in the cockpit on Mars !!!
  12. +3
    19 July 2018 14: 15
    When pressed in one place, they immediately remembered Meh-Mats ... and the matter went into a breakthrough ...
    But the trouble is that most of the highly motivated but low-skilled managers in these sectors did not finish Meh-Mats, but studied the history of Hollywood and were engaged in horseback riding ... therefore, the Federation ship is still not ready, but should already be commissioned in 2016 ... so we still don't have a Shock UAV ...
    So it’s time to return an effective training system from the USSR - Worker settlement, Mathematical school, Mech-Mat University! Rich Maths will never be knocked anywhere! And the more so Physics ...
    1. +6
      19 July 2018 16: 22
      So it’s time to return an effective training system from the USSR - Worker settlement, Mathematical school, Mech-Mat University!


      But she didn’t leave SUNTs, LIT (well, simpler than 57, 2, 26) - MSU
      So all these years and worked.
      While the balabol discussed the USE, people graduated from these schools, entered Univer and became scientists.
      1. 0
        19 July 2018 23: 41
        Cool! +1000 good
  13. +31
    19 July 2018 14: 17
    In fact, I like the trend insanely. wassat
    So, first, with a pomp, announced the revival of the fleet in the framework of the GPV 2011-2020. Then (when this GPV turned out to be an epic failure), a discussion began about the latest weapons systems that will be included in the next GPV (aircraft carrier, destroyer of 18 tons in weight, Husky nuclear submarines, etc., etc.). Then, when the real possibilities of the country became clear, the new GPV was still not finally approved, or it was decided not to publish so as not to disgrace. But now they tell us about the almighty Daggers and Poseidons, while demonstrating computer graphics of extremely dubious quality ...
    So I feel that by the next GPV we will be shown a button on the remote with a signature ("press and destroy NATO fleets, infa 100%)
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        1. +5
          19 July 2018 14: 51
          Unified arguments, lol write ischo as they say, about the laser I see, they also answered essentially as well as about its possible application.
    2. +8
      19 July 2018 14: 32
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      But now they tell us about the almighty Daggers and Poseidons, while demonstrating computer graphics of extremely dubious quality ...

      You just do not know how to rejoice. But we do not blame you for this.
      1. +13
        19 July 2018 15: 19
        Quote: barsuk
        You just do not know how to rejoice.

        There is nothing to rejoice about. You see, an atomic torpedo is an epic dream of the mind, not needed from the word "in general." We have fairly decent problems with acoustic equipment, maybe, I repeat, maybe at the Irtysh-Amphora State Joint-Stock Company we reached parity with the USA, but this is not a fact. In other words, it turns out that we don’t need an atomic torpedo to destroy coastal cities, because an ordinary ICBM (or avant-garde, if you like) can do this better, and against AOG it is pointless, since it obviously doesn’t have the means to detect them at a distance greater than a few tens of kilometers (and that is not a fact).
        And this despite the fact that the capabilities of the PLO at the same AUG are more than enough to repel the attack of a single torpedo.
        As a result, our submariners, damn it, don’t have normal simulators (to dodge torpedoes and disrupt their surveillance), we don’t have mine protection, we have EGSSPO stalled, we don’t have nuclear submarines to cover the deployment of the SSBN, but we are developing a completely meaningless wunderwaffe . wassat
        What rejoice?
        1. +6
          19 July 2018 15: 29
          your misunderstanding of the tasks.
          But the situation here is our confrontation with the USA AUG is hiding in our ranks as we need it. With the help of surveillance tools, we know the direction of movement of the AUG. We send a group from Poseidons with UBC. And we meet lovely partners
          1 From the right angle.
          2 unexpectedly
          She doesn’t need a powerful GAS, she will receive the primary control center from other places in the distance.
          You will ask why?
          1 24/7 PLO they cannot carry out
          2 We do not know the noise of this system
          3 We do not know her speed but I’m wang that she will be sweat 50 knots minimum.
          And it turns out that three Poseidons can solve a lot.
          But farting into a puddle is probably interesting to you.
          1. +8
            19 July 2018 16: 01
            In short - bullshit. If a little more
            Quote: leon-iv
            With the help of surveillance tools, we know the direction of movement of the AUG.

            What a clever word - “observation tool” :)))) It remains only to understand what is meant by it - or 5 satellites of the Lian system, of which 2 have limited functionality (and which, generally speaking, may well be destroyed with the onset of the conflict , because SM-3 is credited with a lot of nonsense, but it can really bring down satellites). Or is it ZGRLS, representing massive stationary objects that can be disabled by a missile attack at the beginning of the war? About the fact that ZGRLS, in general, do not know how to identify goals, I will not even mention. What else? Maybe the AWACS plane? So we have not yet mastered the technology of teleportation (this will be announced in the next GPV) in order to send the A-50U to Atlanika, and we do not have aircraft carriers.
            Quote: leon-iv
            She doesn’t need a powerful GAS, she will receive the primary control center from other places in the distance.

            good wassat
            I don’t know, you are aware (however, I know - not aware) of the fact that even with a bunch of satellites Legend and supersonic anti-ship missiles of the USSR nuclear submarines had problems with reaction time. That is, it could easily happen that a volley of missiles goes into milk due to obsolescence of target designation data. SUPERSONIC ROCKETS, CARL! And here we are talking about a dashboard with its front door 50, well, well, even 100 knots (fantasize, fantasize!)
            Quote: leon-iv
            24/7 PLO they cannot carry out

            Go learn the capabilities of the IUSS global underwater surveillance system. You learn a lot. But in short - actually PLO AUG is almost 1/5 of its PLO protection. But the maneuverable long-range sonar monitoring system based on ships of special construction - SURTASS in combination with the well-known SOSUS capable of covering entire ocean areas, + patrol aircraft are capable of not only 24/7, but 48/7.
            Quote: leon-iv
            Unexpectedly

            Yeah :)))) A torpedo flying under water at 50 knots - unexpectedly ?! lol do you even understand the level of noise when driving at that speed? She will yell at half the ocean
            Quote: leon-iv
            And it turns out that three Poseidons can solve a lot.

            In the inflamed fantasies of grief-patriots - certainly.
            Quote: leon-iv
            But farting into a puddle is probably interesting to you.

            What I like about GDP bots is that they seem to be selected according to 2 key criteria:
            1) Complete illiteracy in the issues they comment on
            2) An acute desire to be rude to an opponent (but not the ability to do it at least a little witty)
            1. +1
              19 July 2018 17: 06
              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              What a clever word - “observation tool” :)))) It remains only to understand what is meant by it - or 5 satellites of the Lian system, of which 2 have limited functionality (and which, generally speaking, may well be destroyed with the onset of the conflict , because SM-3 is credited with a lot of nonsense, but it can really bring down satellites). Or is it ZGRLS, representing massive stationary objects that can be disabled by a missile attack at the beginning of the war? About the fact that ZGRLS, in general, do not know how to identify goals, I will not even mention. What else? Maybe the AWACS plane? So we have not yet mastered the technology of teleportation (this will be announced in the next GPV) in order to send the A-50U to Atlanika, and we do not have aircraft carriers.

              Mr. expert Lotos is Epoch (UTC) 2017-12-05 04:37:50, 908.3 km x 915.6 km x 67.1 °, 103.1 min A SM-3 500 km good luck cho.
              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              I don’t know, you are aware (however, I know - not aware) of the fact that even with a bunch of satellites Legend and supersonic anti-ship missiles of the USSR nuclear submarines had problems with reaction time. That is, it could easily happen that a volley of missiles goes into milk due to obsolescence of target designation data. SUPERSONIC ROCKETS, CARL! And here we are talking about a dashboard with its front door 50, well, well, even 100 knots (fantasize, fantasize!)

              And religion apparently does not allow them to be released in advance, so that they would graze at the right points. For example, Norfolk,
              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              Go learn the capabilities of the IUSS global underwater surveillance system. You learn a lot. But in short - actually PLO AUG is almost 1/5 of its PLO protection. But the maneuverable long-range sonar monitoring system based on ships of special construction - SURTASS in combination with the well-known SOSUS capable of covering entire ocean areas, + patrol aircraft are capable of not only 24/7, but 48/7

              I continue to learn that practice is the criterion of truth. How will they find Poseidon at a depth of 600-700 meters walking at low speed to the position area.

              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              Yeah :)))) A torpedo flying under water at 50 knots - unexpectedly ?! do you even understand the level of noise when driving at that speed? She will yell at half the ocean

              I understand perfectly, but then it will not be painful, but anyway. For warheads will be good there.

              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              What I like about GDP bots is that they seem to be selected according to 2 key criteria:
              1) Complete illiteracy in the issues they comment on
              2) An acute desire to be rude to an opponent (but not the ability to do it at least a little witty)

              Lol and reading "experts" farting into a puddle is even more interesting. Which do not even understand why ZGRLS is necessary.
              1. +6
                19 July 2018 17: 59
                Quote: leon-iv
                Mr. Expert Lotos is Epoch (UTC) 2017-12-05 04:37:50, 908.3 km x 915.6 km x 67.1 °, 103.1 min

                Yeah. Only in order to use the radar, and not optics, Lotus will have to go to low orbits, but optics ... to know where the AUG was a day ago is, of course, wonderful :)
                Quote: leon-iv
                And religion apparently does not allow them to be released in advance, so that they would graze at the right points. For example, Norfolk,

                The coordinates of the desired point, as I understand it, the Lord God will tell you? :)))) Do you even think how many such "Poseidons" are needed to block all possible AUG deployment routes with them? This leaves the fact that the PLO system is quite capable of opening their deployment and ensuring liquidation even before the conflict begins.
                We, damn it, the BEST crews on the magnificent Pike-B hardly penetrated the NATO PLO to go to the Atlantic (operations Aport, Atrina) So they were controlled by real fighters, experienced warriors of the depths, accustomed to playing tag games with ships and planes NATO, able to evaluate 100500 parameters in any situation and find the right solution. And then a dumb piece of iron - raz! And tore everyone wassat
                Quote: leon-iv
                I continue to learn that practice is the criterion of truth. How will they find Poseidon at a depth of 600-700 meters walking at low speed to the position area.

                At Pike-B, the maximum depth is 600 m, the working one is about 500, if that. And most importantly, tell me what - do you think Poseidon knows how to carry out bottom-dredging work? laughing This I mean that no one bothers to build the AUG route through relatively shallow areas :))))
                Quote: leon-iv
                I understand perfectly, but then it will not be painful, but anyway. For warhead there will be good

                We learn materiel by the damaging factors of an underwater nuclear explosion :)))) We understand that even with a megaton warhead it is necessary to explode inside the AUS order.
                Quote: leon-iv
                Lol and to read "experts" farting in a puddle is even more interesting

                I noticed that the topic of human excrement is much more familiar to you than weapons :))))
                1. +1
                  19 July 2018 20: 06
                  Andrei

                  Somehow today you parted in earnest on all topics ... Can it slow down a bit?
                  Just my wish ...
                  1. +1
                    19 July 2018 21: 23
                    Quote: NN52
                    Somehow today you parted in earnest on all topics ... Can it slow down a bit?

                    I am not a brake, I am the last haaaaz laughing
                    Quote: NN52
                    Just my wish ...

                    Why so?
                    1. 0
                      20 July 2018 09: 42
                      Andrei

                      Yes, at least sometimes give joy! For clearance in the gray everyday life of bad news ....
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                  1. +1
                    19 July 2018 23: 40
                    Quote from rudolf
                    Andrey, Aport and Atrina were carried out by the forces of the 33rd DiPL, there was no Shchuk-B.

                    Ugh, piss on my tongue.
                    "Well dear, what’s the result? Have you lost your mind a bit?
                    Only this little pull, years so-so on heels "

                    I'm sorry, I reported feel
              2. 0
                19 July 2018 20: 44
                Quote: leon-iv

                Mr. expert Lotos is Epoch (UTC) 2017-12-05 04:37:50, 908.3 km x 915.6 km x 67.1 °, 103.1 min A SM-3 500 km good luck cho.
                SM-3 Block 2A has better specs
            2. +1
              19 July 2018 21: 57
              SM-3, shot down one satellite, but not one Korean missile wassat
            3. 0
              21 July 2018 20: 41
              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              "observation tool" :)))) It remains only to understand what is meant by it

              The cross section of Poseidon does not allow to place a hydroacoustic antenna with a large aperture on it, which is necessary for detecting targets at a distance of more than 15 kilometers. But you can apply a flock of Poseidons. Their GOS in joint work forms a hydroacoustic phased side-scan antenna array with a synthesized aperture. The range of such a sonar phased array can be 150km. In a pack, Poseidons can be located at a distance of 10..15 km from one another and maintain an underwater sonar connection between themselves. A flock may consist of 10..15 Poseidons.
              This flock is controlled, aimed at a target from a thermal airship with a nuclear power plant through a towed sonar buoy, sending sonar commands to the nearest Poseidon, which transfers them further along the chain to the next nearby Poseidon in the flock. The thermal airship can accommodate a round-the-clock microwave headlamp with an enemy AUG detection range of more than 600 km. A thermal airship with a silver Kevlar shell can withstand a 100 Mt submarine nuclear explosion at a distance of 50..100 km from the epicenter. The epicenter will be under the AUG order. To protect against attacking missiles and / or f35b aircraft, the thermal airship can be equipped with Rellight and anti-ballistic missiles. The wolf pack of Poseidons, driven by a thermal airship, at a speed of 100..150 km / h will inexorably approach the enemy coast, spreading the AUGs found on its paths to molecules and create an unacceptably high level of radioactive infection on the coastal territory of the enemy as well as a tsunami wave.
              see https://vpk-news.ru/articles/43918
          2. +2
            19 July 2018 16: 08
            "We send a group from Poseidons with SBCH. And we meet nice partners
            1 From the right angle.
            2 Suddenly
            a) (without a joke, just interesting) - what is included in the Poseidon media group? Well, which unexpectedly and from a favorable angle will approach the American AUG.
            b) not knowing the noise and speed of the system, how can one confidently say "... it turns out that three Poseidons can solve a lot." It seems that this is incorrect at the current stage.
            c) does this picture of a 1 on 1 standoff with ACG in a “spherical vacuum” not seem somewhat artificial to you?
            1. 0
              19 July 2018 17: 16
              Quote: Ryazanets87
              a) (without a joke, just interesting) - what is included in the Poseidon media group? Well, which unexpectedly and from a favorable angle will approach the American AUG.

              So far I can assume that the Poseidons will work autonomously, in their position areas, most likely there are acoustic signatures of AUG and NK for a long time and they will have them in the CEO. GUGI will serve, for example, with the help of Belgorod.

              Quote: Ryazanets87
              not knowing the noise and speed of the system, how can one confidently say "... it turns out that three Poseidons can solve a lot." It seems that this is incorrect at the current stage.

              Well, we can assume that there’s no crew there and it’s quieter, and we can emphasize this.
              and again, the noise range is not clear. For if it is HF, then it is determined much worse.
              Quote: Ryazanets87
              this picture of the 1 on 1 confrontation with AUG in a "spherical vacuum" does not seem somewhat artificial to you?

              Of course, it seems that is why Daggers and Zircons are sawing, and the 949 project is weighted with 72 onyxes, and diesels and NKs are completely calibrated.
              1. +4
                19 July 2018 18: 03
                Quote: leon-iv
                So far I can assume that the Poseidons will work autonomously, in their positional areas,

                Such nonsense, I did not expect from you. That is, you propose to place the latest weapons system in international waters (!) Where will it become the legal property of anyone who can get to it? wassat
                Quote: leon-iv
                GUGI will serve, for example, with the help of Belgorod

                That is, the old 3rd generation nuclear submarine, inferior in noise even to the modernized Elks. Great solution! wassat
                1. 0
                  19 July 2018 21: 21
                  Andrei, and if at depths of 1200 +, is everything there not so simple with acoustics and detection?
                  1. +2
                    19 July 2018 21: 31
                    I am not a great specialist in underwater affairs, but I know that everything is very, very difficult there, and all sorts of tricks - a wagon and a small cart. But, for example, in the area of ​​the coast of Norway, where it was planned to deploy automatic control systems of such depths, we can say that there aren’t
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        2. +1
          19 July 2018 15: 41
          In general, yes, but do not forget which country we live in, everything is possible here ... even Poseidon and relights.
        3. +2
          19 July 2018 15: 56
          As a result, our submariners, damn it, don’t have normal simulators (to dodge torpedoes and disrupt their surveillance), we don’t have mine protection, we have EGSSPO stalled, we don’t have nuclear submarines to cover the deployment of the SSBN, but we are developing a completely meaningless wunderwaffe .

          This is all due to the fact that the Navy themselves can not figure out what they need. Give them everything at once.
          1. +5
            19 July 2018 16: 08
            Quote: barsuk
            This is all due to the fact that the Navy themselves can not figure out what they need.

            To some extent, your statement is true, the system for formulating fleet orders for the shipbuilding industry is completely overwhelmed, but nevertheless clearly not admirals thought of this senility
    3. +1
      19 July 2018 14: 39
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      In fact, I like the trend insanely. wassat
      So, first, with a pomp, announced the revival of the fleet in the framework of the GPV 2011-2020. Then (when this GPV turned out to be an epic failure), a discussion began about the latest weapons systems that will be included in the next GPV (aircraft carrier, destroyer of 18 tons in weight, Husky nuclear submarines, etc., etc.). Then, when the real possibilities of the country became clear, the new GPV was still not finally approved, or it was decided not to publish so as not to disgrace. But now they tell us about the almighty Daggers and Poseidons, while demonstrating computer graphics of extremely dubious quality ...
      So I feel that by the next GPV we will be shown a button on the remote with a signature ("press and destroy NATO fleets, infa 100%)

      For the first time, he liked the lover of aircraft carriers, despite the wild contempt for them. :)
    4. 0
      19 July 2018 21: 41
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      In fact, I like the trend insanely. wassat
      So, first, with a pomp, announced the revival of the fleet in the framework of the GPV 2011-2020. Then (when this GPV turned out to be an epic failure), a discussion began about the latest weapons systems that will be included in the next GPV (aircraft carrier, destroyer of 18 tons in weight, Husky nuclear submarines, etc., etc.). Then, when the real possibilities of the country became clear, the new GPV was still not finally approved, or it was decided not to publish so as not to disgrace. But now they tell us about the almighty Daggers and Poseidons, while demonstrating computer graphics of extremely dubious quality ...
      So I feel that by the next GPV we will be shown a button on the remote with a signature ("press and destroy NATO fleets, infa 100%)

      Honestly, I was not impressed either. Real shots will not be shown even if they are. And so, he is a cartoon.
  14. +3
    19 July 2018 14: 19
    In this case, the operation of the laser itself is not demonstrated.

    Then you can no longer read ... Ugh. Where is the evidence of the combat use of the laser ?! What is the problem? Everyone needs facts (especially enemies), and not beautiful pictures and a banal transfer of troops.
    1. +3
      19 July 2018 14: 38
      Google is in net how the installation shoots last summer this video was.
      1. 0
        21 July 2018 12: 18
        You will not be difficult to lay out a link? Everything that is googled now does not fall under the description.
    2. +7
      19 July 2018 14: 44
      Where you saw beautiful pictures, North Korea does videos better.
  15. +1
    19 July 2018 14: 21
    I wonder what is the maximum duration of the flight shown cruise missiles? After all, if the resource of the power plant allows for a really long stay in the air, then the scope of such a system is not limited to banal striking.
    1. +2
      19 July 2018 14: 49
      Here is another interesting one) if it’s true about the resource, why not send it to the moon with a payload or with a good camera on the nose, so to speak to show the world the possibilities.
      1. +4
        19 July 2018 14: 53
        Annealing the day, and then a timid question from the audience, and where will you get the oxidizer for the ram engine? And to take away heat, and then a corrupt physics defect requires its own)))))
        1. +2
          19 July 2018 15: 44
          Interesting thing. One defect physicist is lame, another defect chemistry suffers ...
        2. 0
          19 July 2018 16: 58
          How otkeda! Commodities with oxidizing agent and water will follow, the rocket stalled, it was caught up to refuel, water was added to the radiator and forward to the moon. and so that the reactor does not get too hot, you can cover it with wet rags. By the way, what kind of girl is this physics? Physics is better at home, babysitting children. (Baba on the ship is a bad omen) tongue
      2. 0
        19 July 2018 21: 23
        Quote: 100502
        Here is another interesting one) if it’s true about the resource, why not send it to the moon with a payload or with a good camera on the nose, so to speak to show the world the possibilities.

        And to Mars if or to Jupiter?
    2. 0
      19 July 2018 14: 57
      Naturally! After 50 years, you can put yourself in the country.
  16. +2
    19 July 2018 14: 40
    Let them howl, then let's go right!
  17. +1
    19 July 2018 14: 45
    A rocket with a nuclear propulsion system, according to my knowledge, my concepts, should pollute the environment. If a universal catastrophe with nuclear exchange has begun, then it is already too late to pay attention to it and such a weapon is perfectly acceptable.
    But how are these engines and the rocket itself tested today? Or are the engines clean?
    1. +1
      19 July 2018 14: 53
      Cold fusion seems to be)
    2. +2
      19 July 2018 14: 54
      It is believed that on electricity, but a couple of starts would have been real SKIP would not have been dragged to Novaya Zemlya then.
    3. +3
      19 July 2018 14: 59
      Quote: Troll
      But how are these engines and the rocket itself tested today? Or are the engines clean?

      just like any other weapon wink "purity" is a relative concept. if it does not cause an environmental disaster like Chernobyl or Fukushima (with which waste is still flowing into the ocean), then for the military all the rules.
    4. 0
      19 July 2018 15: 04
      Quote: Troll
      But how are these engines and the rocket itself tested today? Or clean engines


      Smokes over the New Land - everything will settle in the Arctic and will return to us in krill / shrimp / fish ...
      1. 0
        19 July 2018 15: 26
        Smokes one thing, but when you "hit the target" on the ground, you get a good p.a. dirty. Although .. if without hitting, but just there .. the parachute is growing thin, then the thing is different.
  18. +2
    19 July 2018 14: 47
    I said that we didn’t agree
  19. +12
    19 July 2018 15: 02
    He was neighing over a production video with the Petrel - it would be better if they just shot without people, otherwise this imitation of activity from the sheltered Kyrgyz Republic causes nothing but a smile.
    Everyone pretends that they are busy, service hatches are not open, loading operations without moving - at one time we shot educational films on SLBMs more fun :)
    And this is put up to enhance the image of the country - God, everything is bad, why not attract professionals with access, and not this kindergarten.
    Really nobody sees this video squalor in the Moscow Region, reducing the video to the primitive “squat under the rocket” ... “hold on to the tail” ... “touch the remote control of the crane” ... “sit with a clever look on the chair”. ..
    It would be better not to show anyone than this profanity!
    After all, it was censored ...
    1. +4
      19 July 2018 15: 07
      Horror of what, the plaster is removed, the client leaves. Personally, I saw VERY many interesting things in all the videos.
      1. +9
        19 July 2018 15: 22
        Quote: leon-iv
        I personally saw VERY many interesting things in all the videos

        You didn’t see anything there. In your pink glasses you’re not the same as hippo fish :)
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          1. +8
            19 July 2018 16: 22
            Quote: leon-iv
            And the fact that people in protection against alpha radiation apparently did not bother you

            Dachtots! :)))) I'll tell you one thing in secret - a white suit, gloves, a respirator and a hat, this is not a suit from alpha radiation (although it can technically play its role), but a standard overalls when working with units, where installation of the hair cannot be dropped and dirt is not allowed :)))
            Quote: leon-iv
            In general, the expert is online))))

            Yes Yes
            1. 0
              19 July 2018 16: 36
              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              and standard overalls when working with units, where during installation the hair cannot be dropped and dirt is not allowed :)))

              Ahaha assembly is already an aggregate installation of finished product blocks with the 5th and partially with the 9th acceptance))))
              Yes, yes, hair cannot get in there, but only at the assembly of the assembly and assembly at the subcontractors, and not at the final assembly of the product, so even at point blank I do not see any clean rooms or non-static bracelets, which are so typical in the assembly of certain products. laughing
              1. +5
                19 July 2018 16: 53
                Quote: leon-iv
                Ahaha assembly is already an aggregate installation of finished product blocks with the 5th and partially with the 9th acceptance))))

                Right. And, as Vladimirovich quite rightly noted - the guys who arrange clowning at the rocket :))))
                1. +1
                  19 July 2018 17: 19
                  Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                  Right. And, as Vladimirovich quite rightly noted - the guys who arrange clowning at the rocket :))))

                  And you need to show the routing. Although you nichrome do not understand how to produce products. So the playboy of the 70th year will do laughing
                  1. +5
                    19 July 2018 18: 06
                    Quote: leon-iv
                    And you need to show the routing.

                    No no need.
                    Quote: leon-iv
                    Although you nichrome do not understand how to produce products. So the playboy of the 70th year will do

                    Nuuu ... here everything depends on the age category of the target audience. To whom - a playboy, and to whom - "funny pictures" from the Ministry of Defense laughing By the way, isn’t it time for you?
      2. 0
        19 July 2018 15: 37
        Quote: leon-iv
        Horror of what, the plaster is removed, the client leaves. Personally, I saw VERY many interesting things in all the videos.

        and he says “hidden camera shooting” from the advertising window, he says he’s not gypsy, he don’t understand, he’s looking for hatches
  20. +2
    19 July 2018 15: 05
    Our response to the American media howling that "Trump has leaked everything" by going to negotiations with Russia as an equal country. We make it clear that we have reasons for military superiority over the United States, but this was not promoted. If you demand from Trump a tougher position, then you can even run up.
  21. +11
    19 July 2018 15: 10
    All who have a head on their shoulders should think: can a state with a raw material mono-economy, through and through a corrupt state apparatus, with a rotten judicial system even produce something innovative? In my deep conviction, it cannot.
    Any breakthrough, especially after decades of degradation in all areas, as we had in the 90s, requires tremendous stress throughout society. I am convinced that we will make this breakthrough in the future. But we must clearly understand: if Putin will remain in power with his team of criminal bulldogs, the state of Russia will cease to exist.
    This vision of the future of Russia without Putin and his team should be a unifying principle for all segments of the population, regardless of views, beliefs, preferences.
    1. +3
      19 July 2018 15: 30
      Uhhh what an impulse, what intensity of the struggle, whose will you be. laughing
    2. -2
      19 July 2018 15: 44
      You cry about Putin on the echo of Moscow site. They are discussing military equipment.
    3. +3
      19 July 2018 16: 13
      With the raw material mono-economy, the state cannot produce anything sensible, everything is correct. But your conclusions are not correct. With logic, which unfortunately is not taught now, you are not going smoothly.

      1.with raw material -> cannot produce
      2.Russia -> Produced
      3. Conclusion: To Russia not commodity economics.

      You in your reasoning have put everything upside down. A good example with a raw material economy is today's Ukraine. Here it is today producing and selling only raw materials. Wheat, metal, sunflower oil ... What else is there?
    4. +1
      19 July 2018 17: 15
      Quote: Fedoslov
      It requires tremendous stress throughout society. I am convinced that we will make this breakthrough in the future.

      wassat Oh, trouble-trouble .... We had such a "breakthrough", the classic "king of the smoking room". He solved global problems all over the world at one time (in the same room, in the smoking room) and also bonfired everyone, starting with the president and ending with sellers in mack ducks, yeah. Only, here's the misfortune: as soon as it came to fulfilling his direct duties, it turned out that "the whistle is off or the shark is dead." So the poor fellow quit, not understood by anyone and rejected by everyone. laughing
  22. +6
    19 July 2018 15: 12
    The video demonstrates the potential use of this unique system in animation mode.

    The future of the sun lies in total animation. Sim win!
    1. +2
      19 July 2018 16: 30
      And were the Americans on the moon?
      1. 0
        19 July 2018 22: 41
        You are a provocateur! smile
  23. 0
    19 July 2018 15: 13
    At the same time, the video demonstrates the rotational ability of the plumage elements of the underwater system


    Author - let's call this manipulation of controls.
    Oh, these journalists are dreamers - in the USSR, for such terminology, they themselves would have turned ...
  24. +1
    19 July 2018 15: 26
    It seems that the negotiations failed, the bonds were leaked, we demonstrate the latest armed ones! Something not good is brewing! ((
  25. +1
    19 July 2018 15: 29
    Dashing surprises

    This is all computer graphics, I’d like to test it somewhere, to know exactly how it works, for one thing and check someone else’s ..... laughing
  26. +2
    19 July 2018 16: 00
    That’s all, you can raise the retirement age up to 70 years :)))) I’m lying, out of thin air the second reading on raising VAT has passed. :)
  27. +3
    19 July 2018 16: 30
    Those who believe that these show-offs can sleep peacefully and not practice verbal improvisation ... The Defense Ministry showed and talked about the capabilities of weapons in the form in which they considered necessary, so as not to reveal all the combat and technical characteristics. When used in training or combat conditions, we will find out the quality and effectiveness of the new weapons.
  28. 0
    19 July 2018 17: 01
    Quote: leon-iv
    Yes, it’s it as an option, Google ATGOR.

    ATGOR specifications are suitable for a thermal airship nuclear power plant:
    - The mass of the mobile reactor block is 60 tons.
    - Gas turbine electric generators, operate either on diesel fuel or on heated air from the reactor.
    - The air is heated in a heat exchanger and can be released in a heated form under the shell of the airship.
    - heat is discharged into the atmosphere without additional cooling towers or ponds
    - The launch of nuclear power plants is carried out using their own gas turbines - external power is not needed.
    - Transfer from transport position to generation in half an hour.
    - Full-fledged biosecurity - like "I carry everything with me."
    1. 0
      20 July 2018 05: 18
      I propose a thermal airship name Aeolus.
      Aeolus - king of the winds, was an astrologer,
      taught sailors how to stay on course

      Poseidon's work with Aeolus:
      The king of the winds warns the AUG pilots:
      I sit high and look far
      don't sit on a stump aircraft carrier
      don't eat pie B61-12
      I’ll complain to Poseidon
      via towed sonar
      module
      and he will sort your flock
      on molecules yes atoms
  29. 0
    19 July 2018 17: 51
    It is a pity that the performance characteristics are not disclosed, if Peresvet still works on ICBM warheads - it’s just space and a new era of missile defense. And there is reason to imply just such a alignment. Interesting articles at one time were published by our scientists on this subject ... To destroy a warhead, it is not necessary to directly affect the object itself, it is enough to change the environment in which it moves in order to lead to its destruction.
    1. 0
      19 July 2018 18: 04
      It doesn’t look like a laser with a power of 10 or more megawatts, which would bring down ICBM warheads.
      1. +1
        19 July 2018 18: 35
        So the point is that salt does not need such power. There is no direct impact on the object, but on the environment in which it moves. More precisely, a plasmoid is created along the path of the object. Here is a quote from Academician Rimiliy Avramenko, the former chief designer of the Research Institute of Radio Instrument Engineering and the supervisor of work on the creation of plasma weapons in Russia - “In the focus of laser or microwave rays, a cloud of highly ionized air arises at an altitude of up to fifty kilometers. Any object - a rocket, plane, meteorite - falling off of it, and collapses under the influence of monstrous overloads arising from a sharp pressure drop on the surface and inside the flying body. "
      2. 0
        19 July 2018 18: 38
        And yes, do not forget that Peresvet is powered by a modern compact nuclear installation., Which, judging by the voiced information, is capable of instantly delivering the enormous energy necessary for an impulse and doing this many times over a long period of time.
        1. +4
          19 July 2018 19: 04
          Quote: sanches-nk
          And yes, do not forget that Peresvet is powered by a modern compact nuclear installation., Which, judging by the information voiced, is capable of instantly delivering huge energy necessary for an impulse

          And also to heat dry rations, dry footcloths and do professional Thai massage ... laughing
          Well, such a reactor cannot be, it was not in vain that they came up with a nuclear-pumped laser, which occurs as a result of nuclear weapons detonation ..
          1. +1
            20 July 2018 04: 34
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            And also to heat dry rations, dry footcloths and do professional Thai massage ... laughing

            Andrew! With all due respect hi Write better about what Admiral Rozhdestvensky scratched his ass before the start of the battle and how it affected the outcome laughing Well, the whiners of critics and experts on pension reforms already got am
    2. -1
      20 July 2018 06: 25
      It is a pity that the performance characteristics are not disclosed

      Yes, there are no TTX-models and "cartoons" there, but there is no TTX, it can’t be the fact that TTX was not tested .. It’s a lie. Of all this “cartoony” typesetter, I like the cruise missile with poison ... How I will present its tests ... especially when it hits the target ...
  30. +5
    19 July 2018 17: 57
    What a spreading barrel of honey! Throw a fly in the ointment there, or what?
    What is a natural sample? It can be anything, but, as a rule, this is a full-scale model, because a prototype will never be called a full-scale model. The fact that an electric motor was built into the prototype, and that is it, let it not surprise anyone, as well as the “movement" of the rudders. For layouts, this is a common practice. What is inside the “pipe” is unknown. But, hatches for maintenance and replacement of individual nodes are not visible. So sectional disassembly of the layout is assumed. Designers know better.
    This "Poseidon" already somewhat resembles the "leaked" Status-6, and does not at all resemble the harpsichord image used in previous cartoons, which was used repeatedly on this resource. Somehow the Doomsday weapon image did not fit at a speed of 3 knots.
    What else can I add? It is necessary to work, and not to knock on drums, and even more so not to wave full-scale samples. The enemy is not afraid, because it monitors the situation. However, this is not designed for him.
  31. +3
    19 July 2018 20: 52
    Of course, I don’t want to offend the MO and, in particular, their PR department, but this is a video in the type of a work shop with five types of employees, .......... it's just .... a complete bastard. It’s even a student short film that would be rejected.
    Some kind of incomprehensible manipulations with incomprehensible products under the breather, .... and you really can really hear the echo in this silence - “you pretend to screw the screws over there!”
    Want to make a cool video about weapons !? do it damn well, yogurts advertise better!

    Americans out, their technology for 100500 clips per month removed, comments, music, horror, beauty, fire! - And that’s it - half the world is stunned and buys their planes. True, after about five years it turns out that the "invisible" planes are shot down by an ancient rocket. But that's another story.

    We do not know how to play Hollywood of course. recourse
    1. +2
      19 July 2018 22: 33
      Quote: DEZINTO
      We do not know how to play Hollywood of course.

      Or maybe, well, to the demon, this Hollywood? I personally like the native “Lenfilm”, with a touch of noir style. Yes Well, she’s bo, in past years Lenfilm films easily distinguished from films of other movie studios. And as for the "effects", then I repeat - well, to the demon. And if you, Nikolay, about this:
      Quote: DEZINTO
      Americans out, their technology for 100500 clips per month removed, comments, music, horror, beauty, fire! - And that’s it - half the world is stunned and buys their planes.

      then everything is simpler. To "convince" potential buyers, mattresses have tools much more effective than cartoon films, yeah. Well, you don’t think that Israel (Israel, Karl) went wild for the “penguins”, having seen enough of the commercials ... wassat Look, representatives of the local six-party getaway to this day does not let go of "penguin addiction" - this is hardly the effect of watching Hollywood.laughing It, of course, and there already, it seems, they began to suspect something, but nonetheless ... hi
  32. 0
    19 July 2018 21: 39
    From everything shown, there is nothing really revolutionary! Here the question is more likely that in the light of recent decades, nobody needed it trite .. Technically, practically any fully developed country is capable of creating such “toys”. In any case, the United States is so accurate. The whole question is in need .. So actually what am I doing this for? If the Russian Federation is not going to attack anyone in the near future, there is not much real benefit from this.
    1. 0
      20 July 2018 00: 21
      did you understand what you wrote? do you believe what you wrote? even comment there is no desire to teach a story!
  33. 0
    19 July 2018 21: 57
    It turns out that the Supreme High Command was not mistaken in March of this year. with the announcement of innovative breakthrough weapons.

    I don’t hear the repentance from the Bongo and the Bongoobraznye, who at the same time started their favorite Russophobian barrel organ about fake information (since Putin personally didn’t report to them) bully
    1. 0
      19 July 2018 22: 15
      Did you see something new on the video?
      1. 0
        19 July 2018 22: 59
        Yes, yes - whisk the old one, a copy of the American one, you are our Russophobe.
        1. +3
          19 July 2018 23: 41
          I understand that it is customary not to respond to stupid comments on this resource, but since I was brought up in the old fashioned manner, I decided to pay attention anyway. You did not learn to answer for the "bazaar"? Or are you really young? It’s not for you, or anyone else, to blame me for Russophobia! I was born, raised and lived all my life in Russia! I have never been abroad at all (even in Turkey). But such personalities who consider themselves to be Never ... the best patriots, are already beginning to tire! I don’t need to tell how to live, what to listen to and what to believe! I’ll figure it out without different clever people ..

          PS I apologize for answering very softly.
          1. 0
            20 July 2018 06: 35
            Do not pay attention, this is the same sect of "Shy Cook and Mighty Khibin" and "having no analogs of cartoons." For them, those who did not believe in this bullshit are definitely “Americans”, “agents of the State Department”, “Russophobes”, “bulked”, “liberoids”, etc.
            1. 0
              20 July 2018 08: 07
              It is also infuriating that the know-it-all who claims that the electronic warfare suspension on the Sushka is not able to drown out the AFAR Arliberka only because of the difference in power. Although even a superficial study of this topic will show that the effect (jamming, overload) of the AFAR is in no way connected with the power of the emitter. Of course, screaming about the Khibiny who put the destroyer on their knees, we must also send to learn the materiel, but really la la vie. No one knows whether or not there were EW suspension containers on that Dry which flew near Cook. Although most likely Cook imposed when it began to be highlighted from the shore of the Bastion PBRK. But no one refutes or confirms the fact of the influence of electronic warfare on Donald Cook, or rather on his AFAR, they could demonstrate briefly ... By the way, somewhere later I saw an article that after that incident, their own electronic warfare systems on Cook were modernized and very seriously.
              1. 0
                20 July 2018 09: 43
                "Nobody knows .... On Youtube there is a video of the flight of this" drying "over the Cook and not one was shot by American sailors by phones. wink
              2. 0
                20 July 2018 09: 54
                EW, in principle, is a much more complicated topic than “and we’ll fry more powerful than theirs”, although such an approach is possible in order to burn input circuits, but there are enough difficulties. In general, the information is freely available. The base is clear there. Just screaming to people is easier than sorting it out.
                1. 0
                  20 July 2018 14: 45
                  Just the possibilities of electronic warfare, greatly inflated, all sorts of scribblers.
  34. 0
    19 July 2018 21: 57
    Perhaps this is shown before the final resolution of the issue on the Donbass and on Bandera periodically firing at it.
  35. 0
    20 July 2018 00: 05
    about the petrel, can someone tell me I don’t understand if there is a jar, then where is the smoke trail, is it not a thermal exhaust?
  36. 0
    20 July 2018 00: 15
    Amaze those who write a doubt about the existence! let them see the senate meetings of the USA, then there they don’t even have a bit of doubt; they know exactly what there is about which the head of intelligence reported to them there!
  37. +1
    20 July 2018 01: 10
    Quote: leon-iv
    Lol

    The purpose of the 100-Mtn "Poseidon" is the destruction of coastal megacities and industrial zones, along with all sorts of naval naval forces and even naval forces (at a distance of 100 km from the coastline in favorable geographical conditions).

    Failing the Poseidon AUG will certainly flood it, but a gobbled AUG compared with, for example, New York or the Naval Forces of Norfolk (where all American AUGs are based on the Atlantic Theater) is a pot-bellied little thing.
  38. +2
    20 July 2018 02: 45
    To divert people's attention during raising the retirement age. To bring down the popular wave of dissatisfaction, there are not enough reports on immortal peppy immigrants and magical passes by Kiselev’s hands.
  39. 0
    20 July 2018 06: 34
    Yeah ... there are a lot of opponents and the argument seems to be serious ... I’m confused - are there really no specialists in the composition of the developers of new types of weapons that are a class higher than our forum experts? Well, they are designing something that by default is unable to perform the necessary tasks?
    Paradosk ...
  40. 0
    20 July 2018 08: 02
    All the same, it is not clear what purpose is pursued by the constant PR of new weapons (suppose that all of them are already working)? At all times, on the contrary, such things were carefully hidden, sometimes it came to excesses. And here it is ...
    Unclear.
  41. 0
    20 July 2018 09: 03
    Everything looks like a staged action. And “Sarmatia” is the same as “Voivode” only with a different head part. But still, it's worth scaring our potential “partners” so that they don’t sleep so calmly
  42. 0
    20 July 2018 09: 26
    In general, interviews with academics and admirals skipped, where they said - so far there is nothing.
    There is no laser. There is no nuclear engine. And do not know when it will be.

    It was probably the wrong academics. 3D videos are our everything.
  43. +1
    20 July 2018 12: 59
    Quote: RASKAT
    This is likely to be either target missiles or experimental models.

    If my sclerosis doesn’t change me, then weight and weight products are painted red

    Quote: HMR333
    about the petrel, can someone tell me I don’t understand if there is a jar, then where is the smoke trail, is it not a thermal exhaust?

    Solid Fuel Launch Booster

    Quote: HMR333
    Amaze those who write a doubt about the existence! let them see the senate meetings of the USA, then there they don’t even have a bit of doubt; they know exactly what there is about which the head of intelligence reported to them there!

    And there will be no doubt. They are guys are wet. They are well aware that while senators and congressmen are "terrified" of the new Russian developments, they have the iron option of cutting down more dough. In other cases, the Senate and Congress will wobble, and when we play along with the American generals, then everything can turn out

    And now a few more words. Let me introduce a “fly in the ointment” of doubt and skepticism into the “barrel of honey” of euphoria. Let's start with anything. At least from the same "Relight". In fact, the video published a couple of days ago by MO is a fragment of the same video that was shown in March. Only one, even compared to this, has been reduced. They didn’t show anything new. Again deployment to a certain site and nothing more. Could for the plot at least connect the cables of the car ... Well, okay.

    We now turn to the Burevestnik nuclear cruise missile. In the documentary footage of its launch from the Novaya Zemlya training ground, it is quite clearly visible that the shape of the head of the launching rocket is close to hemispherical. On the video in the workshop, the shape of the warhead is more similar to the warheads of rockets created using stealth technology. What is it? Different fairings of the same rocket? Hardly. To test with one fairing, and put into production with another - well, I don’t know. In addition, they showed us a container for storage and transportation, and by no means a transport and launch container (with such dimensions, it will not fit into any of the existing launchers). So what have we been shown? Or the Burevestnik missile or the new X-50 cruise missile for the same TU-22M3 bombers? What?

    And finally, the most problematic of all presented. Underwater system "Poseidon", which only a few months did not write about it. And the fact that “Status-6” and “Poseidon” are one and the same system (though in the cartoon shown on the president’s speech they didn’t show “Poseidon” / “Status” at all, but a computer image of the “Harpsichord-2” underwater vehicle. And that he has a speed of 100 knots, and 70 knots, and 400 km / h, and 500 km / h. And that he has a charge power of 2 MT, then 100 MT. And most importantly, it is maneuverable and absolutely silent. speed of 100 knots and silent? Don’t tell my slippers. Nobody has canceled the laws of hydrodynamics. I don’t touch on such a question as the navigation of this product. But what really caused a fit of laughter were the screws on this megatorpedo from the roller. Screws? They want to assure us that the screws will use a torpedo at a speed of 70-100 knots?
  44. 0
    20 July 2018 21: 17
    Quote: NN52
    Saburov

    I entered 1989 in ABVACUL, I was 17 ...
    I have nothing against the masters //


    drinks
  45. 0
    21 July 2018 15: 22
    . What a clever word - “observation tool” :)))) It remains only to understand what is meant by it - or 5 satellites of the Lian system, of which 2 have limited functionality (and which, generally speaking, may well be destroyed with the onset of the conflict , because SM-3 is attributed a lot of nonsense, but it can really bring down satellites)

    Andrei, you underestimate the capabilities of satellite intelligence in the Russian Federation. Besides Liana there are other optical and radio reconnaissance devices. And there are more than a dozen of them in orbit. And Liana was originally planned for such a number of satellites, which is enough to monitor the entire surface of the earth. From a satellite, you can hide in the forest, for example, the Yars PGRK, because the windows between satellites are known, but it is impossible to hide from the AUG satellites in the ocean for an hour and a half. So all AUG movements in the ocean are tracked almost around the clock. As for the possibility of a satellite being shot down from SM-3 , then do not compare the fact that so far they only shot down a satellite at a height of a couple of hundred kilometers, and at least the same Liana at a height of 5 times higher. I certainly do not argue that with the beginning of the war, satellites will be disabled by high-altitude nuclear explosions but all satellites will fall, and ours, and American, and European, and Chinese, and even African.

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