We are waiting for a hot autumn?

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I finally decided to give birth to an article, it’s a very lively topic. And before that he was just a reader, did not plan to write anything. Please do not judge strictly my first opus.





For more than a month now, there have been Internet battles around raising the retirement age. I will say right away: I am against raising. Arguments are listed by different authors more than once, so I don’t see any reason to repeat everything.

I want to draw the attention of readers at one point expressed by Sergei Borisovich Pereslegin. Who is he? This is easy to find on the Internet. Personally, I consider him one of the brightest heads of our country. So, according to Pereslegin, Russia has a centenary historical the cycle and now passes through the period of instability of this cycle, as well as a hundred years ago. And it was at this very moment that the government got out with the suicidal idea of ​​raising the retirement age. (I cannot call it another way.)

Many people write that our people received a vaccine from Maidan on the example of Ukraine. From Maidan (when some oligarchs succeed others in power), maybe he received it, but from the revolution (as in 1917)? The guards also write that it is the liberals who set Putin up. Maybe so, but something heaped everything after the election (gasoline, VAT, retirement age). It seems that the government decided to exchange the votes cast by Putin for the so-called unpopular measures, and more simply, a robbery of the people. This can not be done, say propagandists from the government. But no matter how everything ended with the opposite: a total robbery of the ruling class and a complete change of the managerial elite. It was already in our history a hundred years ago.

Now it's summer - it's time for vacations and the summer season, so protests are unlikely to be numerous. But autumn can be very hot. They say that there are no leaders among the people. So this will not be the case: there would be a request for leaders, and there will be people. Yes, the same Saratov deputy Bondarenko. And if they also open a case for extremism against him, you can’t think of a better promotion.

Now, if, as many hope, Putin will dismiss the government, and raising the retirement age - to the dump, then this, of course, will reduce the intensity of discontent. For me personally, this would be the best option, because I also want to live peacefully and raise children, and there, you see, and grandchildren, but not everything in life depends on our wants.
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  1. +22
    19 July 2018 05: 43
    Well done, Nikolai! They wrote a good article! And your opinion is not far from the truth!
    And this phrase
    something went a lot after the election (gasoline, VAT, retirement age). It seems that the government decided to exchange the votes cast by Putin for the so-called unpopular measures, and more simply, a robbery of the people.
    delighted me with your analytical thinking the most! Everything is just so!
    Amazingly said - both in style and content! good
    1. +7
      19 July 2018 06: 03
      It seems to me that not cobblestone will be the weapon of the oppressed ... But good old sabotage ...
      1. +11
        19 July 2018 08: 46
        That's right, Sabotage is the weapon of the poor. Now I’m sitting in Brazil, I'm ruining the logistics, so here since September 2017! the customs officers, the “Italian strike,” they will demand an increase in salary, the return of some cleaned-up benefits (also pension ones), reduction of working time, labor intensity, etc. In the meantime, their demands will not be satisfied at a teaspoon hour.
        1. +1
          19 July 2018 23: 28
          Quote: Snail N9
          Today, 08: 46
          That's right, Sabotage is the weapon of the poor

          And it will end like in the Union. Then the authorities also thought that everything was in a fist, but in fact, zilch. So sabotage is all one revolution, but quiet. Fruits, as always, will be devoured by villains. However, as in the 90s. How GDP started well, he saved the country, and now, with his tacit consent, he puts a mine under it. It is hoped that by the 24th year the people will forget his kidalovo, will be accepted by his protege. But how not to accept?
          1. 0
            20 July 2018 06: 42
            But is this the GDP that was then? You only look at this moon-shaped face with outstanding cheekbones and compare it with the thin elongated face of a real subject. Well, the German suddenly completely forgot — the real GDP spoke perfectly, and this one, at the level of the fifth grader, can’t connect a couple of sentences, he says they are wrong.
            1. -1
              23 July 2018 20: 14
              You are right, I also noticed dramatic changes during the inauguration of the president in 2012 compared to 2004 ... It seems we live in the time of False Putin ...
      2. +8
        19 July 2018 14: 25
        Nikolay, you’re like a small child. Believe me, there’s nothing like that. In the sense of speaking, you’ll be dissatisfied. After half a year you’ll see one half of the hard workers pulling approval, and the other half will grumble through the kitchens.
        1. +2
          20 July 2018 16: 24
          Quote: 210ox
          Nikolay, you’re like a small child. Believe me, there won’t be anything like that.

          in in. we “miraculously” survived the hunger riots of jamon consumers when we imposed sanctions. truckers did not overthrow power with all their mighty power. even the “victims of re-innovation”, having climbed out from under the rubble of the demolished nine-story buildings, did not demolish the Kremlin with all its inhabitants.
          Against this background, the question arises: How long will naive people still believe in a "hot" spring, summer, autumn, winter?
    2. +20
      19 July 2018 06: 45
      The conclusions are correct, but they are in relation to normal government.
      And the Nashen government is not even normal with a big stretch.
      They wanted to act according to Chernomyrdin, but it turned out. In their respect, the famous phrase of Lavrov is relevant.
      So undermining the remnants of confidence in the authorities, dividing people, and exposing oneself in the true light is worth a lot.
      The enemy for the hillock could not have dreamed of more, but now here on a silver platter.
      1. +4
        19 July 2018 11: 26
        Dear Saigon (Victor). Once again, I would like to repeat. For some reason, no one (in the Government) thinks - the timing of the pension reform was chosen poorly. Pension reform in other countries was carried out during the economic recovery, in contrast to Russia. In the countries where the pension reform was carried out, there were certain conditions: powerful economic growth in these states, an increase in the incomes of citizens of these countries. Accordingly, the well-being of the people grew and the citizens of these countries could save a part of their income on their own pension, which means they could predict their future. In Russia, nothing of the kind is visible. Our Russian government is not going to provide for these factors. One wise person (creed) has already said on this site: "... And then the logical question arises that if the law is agreed and accepted by people who do not fall under it, then how to relate to their objectivity ...".
        P.S. A reasonable question arises: are there people in our Power who have the concept of the "Davis Curve"? ".. Davies' J-curve - a principle put forward by the American sociologist James Davis in the 1962 article" On the theory of revolution "in the journal American Sociological Review. According to this principle, revolutions occur in situations when the period of recovery , which inspired people with hope, gives way to a sharp decline. ... "But 77% of those who voted hoped for something when they voted for the President.
        P.S.S. "... The Accounts Chamber considered the bill on raising the retirement age and did not find in it" calculations defining the relationship between raising the retirement age and creating conditions for the annual indexation of pensions above inflation "
        ... In addition, the Accounts Chamber notes that the bill does not indicate under what conditions the Russian pension system will be considered balanced and financially stable in the long term. For more details see https://aurora.network/articles/10-vlast-i- obshhe
        stvo / 60206-schetnaja-palata-nazvala-tri-nedostatk
        a-proekta-pensionnoy-reformy
        1. +8
          19 July 2018 12: 12
          "... According to this principle, revolutions occur in a situation where the period of recovery, which inspired people with hope, is replaced by a sharp decline. ..."
          And here are the facts:
          "... The fact that being left without a pension for 4,6 million Russians, rather, could mean a certain death, and not at all the beginning of a new bright stage of life with a new highly paid job after professional retraining - as the government constantly repeats, people are already starting The public sentiment among workers has become worse than even among retirees.
          According to the Levada Center, the index of social sentiment in June decreased by 10% compared with February. Moreover, all the components of the composite index have fallen: assessments of today's personal situation (-10%), the situation in the country as a whole (-12%), expectations for the future of their families and the country (-12%), and assessments of the actions of the authorities (-18%) ... "
          1. +6
            19 July 2018 14: 20
            Edrosnya in the first reading passed the law on the robbery of us all!
            Naughty woman spits on the opinion of the citizens of our country, puts her hands in our pockets and tries to arrange the genocide of working citizens.
            Neither mind nor conscience is edrosnya
            1. +1
              19 July 2018 16: 08
              Quote: saigon
              Edrosnya in the first reading passed the law on the robbery of us all!
              Naughty woman spits on the opinion of the citizens of our country, puts her hands in our pockets and tries to arrange the genocide of working citizens.
              Neither mind nor conscience is edrosnya

              On the other hand, the nose is “full of tobacco”. laughing
            2. +3
              19 July 2018 18: 24
              Quote: saigon
              Edrosnya in the first reading passed the law on the robbery of us all!
              Naughty woman spits on the opinion of the citizens of our country, puts her hands in our pockets and tries to arrange the genocide of working citizens.
              Neither mind nor conscience is edrosnya

              Have you heard the representative of this gang Isaev?
              "We stood for a pension system, but we chose an increase in age ....."
              Benefactors, eprst. They did not raise the question of their salaries and pensions. About their social services, they decided to leave pensions or not ....
              People have paid these vampires all their lives, and they decided to give what they earned or not.
              It depends only on us whether this law will be adopted or not.
              In the autumn elections do not choose representatives of the EP.
          2. +2
            20 July 2018 16: 27
            Quote: AA17
            And here are the facts:

            well, OK. and what about the facts?
            Quote: AA17
            According to the Levada Center,

            um ... they promised a fact! what the hell ???
      2. +2
        19 July 2018 18: 57
        Quote: saigon

        So undermining the remnants of confidence in the authorities, dividing people, and exposing oneself in the true light is worth a lot.
        The enemy for the hillock could not have dreamed of more, but now here on a silver platter.

        Can we assume that everything that happens is done intentionally? Is the situation deliberately escalating to cause a social explosion? Do you think such a scenario is impossible? But he offers simply amazing prospects for the occupation Government. That the authorities are temporary workers, you will not argue?
        1. +2
          19 July 2018 19: 04
          Quote: Giants
          Can we assume that everything that happens is done intentionally?

          Putin's henchman? Masochist or what?
        2. +1
          20 July 2018 08: 22
          Your version is quite possible, but there is one circumstance.
          I am extremely doubtful of the mental capabilities of the government, so to speak.
          Sawing, pulling away and failing for everything that they don’t take is one thing, but to create or think out a mindset here, another is needed. But in the creative creation, Dmitry and the company were not noticed, although Dmitry was spoiled with time zones, but here too a bummer.
          A lawyer in general is not capable of creativity.
          Notice those Kudrin, who was for the reform of age and he almost openly says -What kind of crap do you do, what are you thinking about.
          They muddied up the word without thinking, because they didn’t steal it from thinking and this is the result, and squeezing it directly through tears squeezes it.
          1. 0
            20 July 2018 11: 34
            Quote: saigon
            Lawyer in general is not capable of creativity

            Grandfather Lenin, as a lawyer, did this ....! laughing
            Quote: saigon
            It’s one thing to cut, pull away and fail, for which it’s not taken, but to create or think over a mindset here, another is needed

            Brotherhood, however ... fellow
  2. +12
    19 July 2018 05: 43
    the government resigned, and raising the retirement age - to landfill

    “The hopes of the youths are nourished, The elders are given joy”
    1. +17
      19 July 2018 06: 10
      with an initiative Nikolai71. drinks on the topic: yes, we are waiting for the Autumn, all that the government has done is just left, and gasoline is “for 40”, and prices are creeping accordingly for both food and communal services. and it’s not yet in the heating season, it will be “more interesting” next, so yes, we are waiting for Autumn.
      1. MPN
        +1
        19 July 2018 14: 09
        We are waiting, only .....
      2. +1
        19 July 2018 17: 34
        It would certainly have been better if autumn turned out to be calm, but you won’t get bored with our government laughing
    2. +2
      19 July 2018 19: 06
      Quote from Uncle Lee
      The hopes of the youths are nourished, The elders are given joy!

      "If youth knew, if old age could"
  3. +23
    19 July 2018 06: 21
    Dreams of dreams..and Putin has nothing to do with !!!! this is a maneuver to fight the liberals .durdom..putin given his face and goals of his activity. And the goals are mostly anti-people.
    1. +4
      19 July 2018 09: 06
      Quote: apro
      given showed his face and goals of his activities. and goals are mostly anti-people.

      And it depends on whom to count for the people. Officials and managers are also people, but against them he has no goals. Another question is that they are a minority, but they have media.
  4. +14
    19 July 2018 06: 35
    That's right. Only the cancellation of all this noodles, as the dead poultice says. The authorities remain the same, well, quiet down for a while, and then new, super-stupid and empty laws. It is necessary to introduce laws under which, for every blunder for the people, the inventor should be responsible and not just remove them from their posts and without the right to occupy them in the future, but specifically sit for a long time, and with confiscation (supposedly they have nothing, well, that's all recorded on dummies, so shake them with everything they have). Political weather inside Russia, about the same as in 1989. - it is felt, as then, in front of the mess, for which no one answered.
    1. +8
      19 July 2018 10: 39
      Quote: bald
      It is necessary to introduce laws under which, for every blunder for the people, the inventor should be responsible and not just remove them from their posts and without the right to occupy them in the future, but specifically sit for a long time, and with confiscation (supposedly they have nothing, well, that's all recorded on dummies, so shake them with everything they have).

      10 minutes ago a farmer left me. He created his own farm in 93, then stopped in 2000. Yesterday, his neighbor was a farmer (with 93) - he caught him on his own land at the moment of mowing hay with a local policeman. Now he came running to me with a squeal and saliva - "Where is my land? I’ll get to Putin !!!" he did not register his land at all: "Why ?? I am a fool to pay taxes or something ??? !!".Did not pay taxes 20 years..
      His neighbor registered his land 15 years ago and earlier he simply let down a neighbor a lot of hay supposedly ...
      So the charm is that not a single meter is free in the place where he considered his land to be left - and they will give him trimmings and inconvenience scatter - where left ..
      WHAT to do with this face muzzle INTENTIONALLY not paying taxes - but squealing now about "Infringement of small business and prrrrroklyaty bureaucrats !!!!!" ??? Plant with confiscation, for non-payment of quite big sums to the budget? And yes - he has equipment on front persons, a tractor for mother-in-law, a car for a matchmaker (such as a lease), a stacker - generally ownerless (!!!) ... .
      Maybe count it?
      And then somehow offensively and unfairly - the bureaucrats spoil everything, and the people are white and fluffy

      ZY. He is not a small business; he stopped his peasant farm in 2000 — he is a physicist and “type of owner” (according to old unregistered and unchecked documents) 2600 ha
      1. 0
        19 July 2018 13: 28
        Earring, I’ll bastard it everywhere, all over Russia - and this must be destroyed with the root - but at least according to the laws - which are not.
    2. +2
      19 July 2018 11: 52
      Quote: bald
      Lysova (Vladimir) Today, 06:35 New
      That's right. Only the cancellation of all this noodles, as the dead poultice says. The authorities remain the same, well, quiet down for a while, and then new, super-stupid and empty laws. It is necessary to introduce laws under which, for every blunder for the people, the inventor should be responsible and not just remove them from their posts and without the right to occupy them in the future, but specifically sit for a long time, and with confiscation (supposedly they have nothing, well, that's all recorded on dummies, so shake them with everything they have). Political weather inside Russia, about the same as in 1989. - it is felt, as then, in front of the mess, for which no one answered.

      Uncontrolledness and permissiveness are the root causes of what is happening. To control the power layer, there is a Legislative branch of government, laws regulating domestic and foreign public policy. Deputies are obliged to express the opinion of the people who elected them, essentially being representatives of the people in power. Note that almost none of them protested what was happening. “Reform” was approved in the regional Legislative Assemblies and I have no doubt that it will be approved in Parliament. Voting on party lists / it is not known for whom /, the lack of the right to recall deputies and their accountability for campaign promises turned deputies into lured jesters of "celestials."
  5. +17
    19 July 2018 07: 11
    Not .... no one will speak now .... Large demonstrations will simply not be allowed to organize, and the Rosgvard guard will crush the trifle ... Yes, and the people are still relatively "satisfying" living, it’s impossible to rock it ... Read Lenin-he says that the people will go out only when "when they have nothing left to lose but their chains ..." Before the loss of the "chains" the people are still far away ... Maidan? Also impossible. Maidans do not happen, they are organized and organized for money for which the non-interference of the security forces is bought and “protesters” are fed. State Department "," heaped up "," liberoids ", etc., to create a negative image in society, so that they are less supported. The reception is "clumsy," but many narrow-minded, "patriots" indistinguishable by their special minds are "being carried on" this bullshit. So that neither in the autumn, nor next year, nor in the next pose will there be anything so “revolutionary" .... But in six years, so .... But there will already be a different country and world. .....
    1. +3
      19 July 2018 11: 37
      Quote: Snail N9
      Not .... no one will speak now .... Large demonstrations will simply not be allowed to organize, and the Russian Guard under the cops will crush a trifle ...

      A guerrilla war and riot will begin with the first drop of blood. Many guardsmen have their own parents, i.e. only organizers will be “crushed” quietly and bloodlessly. Again, the arrest of the leader can cause spontaneous rallies and only God knows how they will end.
      Quote: Snail N9
      . Yes, and the people are still relatively "satisfying" lives, it is impossible to rock it ... Read Lenin, he says that the people will go out only "when they have nothing left to lose but their chains ..." Until the loss of "chains" the people are still far away ...

      Old people, without a livelihood, the ability to work and just survive, who have paid pension contributions all their lives, who will be stolen elementarily, have something to lose?
      Quote: Snail N9
      Maidan? Also impossible. Maidans do not happen, they are organized and organized for money for which the non-interference of the security forces is bought and the "protesters" are fed.

      We have few "friends" who want the collapse of the country? Believe me, at the first signs of instability in our society, there are so many private sponsors-billionaires, not to mention "public" organizations, with roots from the special services, that the organizers of the "Maidan" will line them up in a very long line.
      Quote: Snail N9
      in addition, everyone who is “dissatisfied” is immediately labeled “fifth column”, “agents of the State Department”, “bulk”, “liberoids,” etc. to create a negative image in society so that they are less supported.

      All previous statements against the regime did not directly concern the vital interests of the majority of the population. Now, labels are hung on supporters of the regime, which, in essence, determines the future split of society.
      1. 0
        19 July 2018 19: 04
        Quote: Dumb
        at the first sign of instability in our society

        In this situation, we will first of all instantly lose Baikal and the entire adjacent territory.
      2. +3
        20 July 2018 17: 06
        Quote: Dumb
        A guerrilla war and riot will begin with the first drop of blood. Many guardsmen have their own parents, i.e. only organizers will be “crushed” quietly and bloodlessly. Again, the arrest of the leader can cause spontaneous rallies and only God knows how they will end.

        it's funny. Certainly not a Petrosyan medal, but funny.
        the arrest of which, I wonder, the leader can cause spontaneous rallies? Bulk chtol? No.
        Yes, and the blood has already gone a little .. while the truth is from broken faces. the only misfortune is that the faces of the “fighters with the regime” are smashed by the very people for whose rights supposedly the bargsyans are fighting.

        Quote: Dumb
        We have few "friends" who want the collapse of the country? Believe me, at the first signs of instability in our society, there are so many private sponsors-billionaires, not to mention "public" organizations, with roots from the special services, that the organizers of the "Maidan" will line them up in a very long line.

        in the sense of "found"? and they disappeared somewhere? the last 4 years have been fully sponsored, but to no avail.
        Quote: Dumb
        All previous statements against the regime did not directly concern the vital interests of the majority of the population. Now, labels are hung on supporters of the regime, which, in essence, determines the future split of society.

        and! evo how! then everything was wrong then, but now it’s certainly that! Oh well laughing
        Now those who were supposed to retire in 2019 can finally arrange a coup! abruptly truckers! By the way, are you sure that there will be more people who will not retire in 2019 than truckers? as far as I remember, raising the retirement age will not apply to some professions. who will make these incredible unrest? liberal public under the guise of several hundred old people? Seriously? what No.
        1. 0
          20 July 2018 20: 45
          Quote: SanichSan
          it's funny. Certainly not a Petrosyan medal, but funny.
          the arrest of which, I wonder, the leader can cause spontaneous rallies? Bulk chtol?

          Do you have Navalny in the lead? I feel sorry for you. laughing
          Quote: SanichSan
          Yes, and the blood has already gone a little .. while the truth is from broken faces. the only misfortune is that the faces of the “wrestlers with the regime” are smashed by the very people for whose rights supposedly the bartsunvs are fighting

          Yes, apparently you have not seen. what is blood. Perhaps, in your opinion, is it scratching a wound from a mosquito bite to the first drop of blood? wassat
          Quote: SanichSan
          in the sense of "found"? and they disappeared somewhere? the last 4 years have been fully sponsored, but to no avail.

          And, all previous years they were absent? Why are you contradicting yourself or is your logic like this? wassat If you read carefully, I wrote about real serious contradictions. Have we had them with our "top" in recent years? fellow
          Quote: SanichSan
          and! evo how! then everything was wrong then, but now it’s certainly that! Oh well
          Now those who were supposed to retire in 2019 can finally arrange a coup! abruptly truckers!

          See the chronicle of "monetization of retirement benefits." Actually, it seems to me that you are one of those who prepared these amendments or voted unanimously for them. No problem. Society is already split. Banter is forgiven you for the first and last time.
          1. +1
            3 August 2018 15: 38
            Quote: Dumb
            Yes, apparently you have not seen. what is blood. Perhaps, in your opinion, is it scratching a wound from a mosquito bite to the first drop of blood?

            for the "saints of the 90s" had seen enough of blood and shit, both of them together. it is for this mriy that the bartsuns with the red-haired cause such emotion and not infrequently laughter in me laughing
            Quote: Dumb
            And, all previous years they were absent? Why are you contradicting yourself or is your logic like this? If you read carefully, I wrote about real serious contradictions. Have we had them with our "top" in recent years?

            I don’t remember something when there were no contradictions. So what? was something happening? even a coup in the 90s is not the work of the people. it is the result of a complete decomposition of power. Now I do not observe the prerequisites for such events. Yes, pension reform is not something that will lead to serious unrest and a change of government. such is objective reality.
            Quote: Dumb
            See the chronicle of "monetization of retirement benefits." Actually, it seems to me that you are one of those who prepared these amendments or voted unanimously for them. No problem. Society is already split.

            your head is split and not society. Of course, I’m not one of those who accepts such reforms or invents them, but I also dream of the collapse of the regime, I’m not among the fools who have been 4 years old (which is interesting until 2014, these idiots were not visible and weren’t visible). I prefer reality rather than dreams.

            Quote: Dumb
            Banter is forgiven you for the first and last time.

            you just don’t crap one's pants when you take an important, heroic pose laughing
    2. 0
      20 July 2018 16: 47
      Quote: Snail N9
      Large demonstrations simply will not be allowed to organize, and the Russian Guard under the cops will crush a trifle ...

      ohhh ... you are far behind modern trends in rallies and opposition to them! any rally still at the stage of organization is stuck with all kinds of NODovtsy, bulk and other shushary capable of turning any speech into a booth.
      and there were already performances. and? and nothing.
  6. +12
    19 July 2018 08: 02
    Thank you so much for the courage Nikolai! DON'T SHAKE OUT, WRITE !!!
    Retired, but should we only think about ourselves? To hide in the shell and not see, not hear? DO NOT WAIT!
    1. +2
      19 July 2018 17: 15
      Thank you for your support!
  7. +1
    19 July 2018 08: 07
    Quote: Snail N9
    Not .... no one will speak now .... Large demonstrations will simply not be allowed to organize, and the Rosgvard guard will crush the trifle ... Yes, and the people are still relatively "satisfying" living, it’s impossible to rock it ... Read Lenin-he says that the people will go out only when "when they have nothing left to lose but their chains ..." Before the loss of the "chains" the people are still far away ... Maidan? Also impossible. Maidans do not happen, they are organized and organized for money for which the non-interference of the security forces is bought and “protesters” are fed. State Department "," heaped up "," liberoids ", etc., to create a negative image in society, so that they are less supported. The reception is "clumsy," but many narrow-minded, "patriots" indistinguishable by their special minds are "being carried on" this bullshit. So that neither in the autumn, nor next year, nor in the next pose will there be anything so “revolutionary" .... But in six years, so .... But there will already be a different country and world. .....

    YOU are wrong, well, for example, the same Maidan, that the Ukrainians had nothing to lose? no, as it turned out there is something to lose, the police could not disperse? no, they could, then what is the reason for the Maidan (ask yourself), I’ll just try to answer this- 1 ELITE of the country decided to redistribute, 2 external reason (in the form of the EU and the USA, they have their own interests to remove Yanukovych, and ONLY then the “desire” (warmed up by the media) of the people, and now let’s see here, the Elite is fed (differently in different regions), but the leash is short, External reasons are busy with their problems (although they wouldn’t mind biting a scrap, but they don’t give out enough money ), well, people VERY “reasonable” say how to live at work without a pension well ..... And the leaders in the form of the Communist Party and the Liberal Democratic Party and the SR have not needed ANYTHING for a long time, they are already GOOD ... Riots may be, but they will be small-town, hushed-up media (to weed out the physical destruction of the leaders of these movements) and therefore will be localized quickly.
    1. +4
      19 July 2018 08: 19
      YOU are wrong, well, for example, the same Maidan, that the Ukrainians had nothing to lose?

      Damn, can you read? It is written in my post “in black and white”: “Maidans do not happen, they are organized and organized for money for which the non-interference of the security forces is bought and“ protesters ”are fed. Where is there about“ nothing to lose? ”It’s about Maidans "are organized by those who can" pay "them -" other states "," dissatisfied oligarchs "," reptilians from Alpha Centauri ", etc.
  8. +27
    19 July 2018 08: 11
    I no longer see anyone in real life who would be for Putin. Even the most girly eyes open. The people among the masses already understand what a gap lies between the picture on the TV and real life, between us (the people) and them (the powerful). People no longer simply trust the government. And the enthusiasm for the mundiales will not help here!
    1. 0
      19 July 2018 23: 23
      Quote: Stas157
      who would be for Putin

      A good way is from Vladimir the “adored” to Vladimir the “damned”. Just like EBN.
  9. +9
    19 July 2018 08: 53
    Many people write that our people received a vaccine from Maidan on the example of Ukraine. From Maidan (when some oligarchs succeed others in power)
    ... Maidan, it happened a long time ago, about 18 years ago, only a "palace". Some oligarchs replaced others ... And vaccinations are given regularly so that the brain is destroyed and the process is successful .. The orderlies sometimes allow a riot type of arrange for the ward ... And the result of which the orderly is public censure, from the hospital’s management, and patients at the head physician are in line with a request, father, increase the dosage ... and you don’t need meat in the dining room, do more noodles and more noodles in length ...
    1. +6
      19 July 2018 11: 16
      Quote: parusnik
      parusnik (Alexey Bogomazov) Today, 08:53 New
      Many people write that our people received a vaccine from Maidan on the example of Ukraine. From the Maidan (when some oligarchs succeed others) ... Maidan, it happened a long time ago, about 18 years ago, only "palace". Some oligarchs replaced others.

      I completely agree with you. It is a coup, with the replacement of some ruling oligarchs with others. That is why some oligarchs were escorted abroad, after plucking, while others tightly sat on the neck of the population, along with other participants in a successful palace coup. That is why we have the Heroes of Russia with merits only before the throne, the “nano-managers” of unprofitable state corporations of corporations, their “ingenious” children in all highly paid posts with the possibility of “privatizing” money from the budget.
  10. +17
    19 July 2018 09: 13
    Who said Marxism is out of date?
    The robbery of the people by power is nothing more than following their class interests.

    People have always been and always will be stupid victims of fraud and self-deception in politics, until they learn to seek the interests of particular classes for any moral, religious, political, social phrases, statements, promises (V.I. Lenin)
    1. +6
      19 July 2018 09: 49
      In fact, the "teaching of the classes" is the most ingenious thing. It is no accident that the capitalists want to destroy this doctrine by calling it “wild,” “not worthy,” “not humane,” “not fit in with democratization and equality in society,” etc. The capitalists are trying to replace this teaching with the modern theory of “equality and unity in human society. " But there can be no "equality and unity", as Lenin himself wrote: "people in society will always be divided into classes according to their social status, relation to the means of production, religion, etc." It is not for nothing that they say: “well-fed, not hungry of course. " Likewise, classes — within them there will be antagonism due to different positions, different contributions to the creation of a social product, different distribution of this product, etc. Alas, classes cannot get along peacefully. Even in such prosperous countries as the Benelux countries, the ruling classes constantly encroach on the rights of the rest — in terms of incomes, taxes, benefits, increasing various payments, reducing social benefits, creating undue tension in the labor market. People can move from one class to another, while their thinking changes on the principle: "live with wolves, howl like wolves." This is evident even from the statements made here by the forum of participants who are supposedly "entrepreneurs" - their statements clearly show contempt for others who, like, cannot earn money, which, in their opinion, are almost lying under their feet. These types are now in power, to demand from them to go down to the interests of "loser whiners", as they consider all the others, is to demand the impossible. It must be clearly understood that the state is the same entrepreneur who hired the population to work for profit and, like any entrepreneur, it (the state) is interested in reducing any costs and will not give a single penny to the population, if not will have profit from this penny. Therefore, negotiating with the state, as well as with the entrepreneur, will not work; you will only have to “knock out” it.
      1. +2
        19 July 2018 11: 07
        Quote: Snail N9
        It must be clearly understood that the state is the same entrepreneur who hired the population to work for profit and, like any entrepreneur, it (the state) is interested in reducing any costs and will not give a single penny to the population, if not will have profit from this penny. Therefore, negotiating with the state, as well as with the entrepreneur, will not work; you will only have to “knock out” it.

        Do not confuse the concept of "state" and "ruling stratum." The so-called "power" is hired by the population to govern the state through the will of the population. The lack of control and permissiveness of the handful of thieves and stupid people who have reached the power usually leads to sad consequences both for them and for the country.
  11. +8
    19 July 2018 10: 59
    I repeat. In my opinion, do not look for analogies in History. Everything is very banal: after 6 years, Putin’s associates will not have a chance to maintain power, therefore, they will rob wherever possible and what is possible, spitting on "people shayat". At stake are tens and hundreds of billions of dollars of pension contributions from citizens after 6 years. What can stop the snickering "celestial" in pursuit of such a jackpot? Hot autumn? There will probably be performances in the squares. I’m more worried about the likelihood of the appearance of “Robin Hoods” who will go to look for their stolen money with deputies, “managers”, etc. of the highly paid servants of “God-like”. Then, families will cut out and quarantine zones will appear before entering elite villages with armored personnel carriers and roadblocks. The split of society will be final and irrevocable. Left without a livelihood, the elderly will steal and rob for survival. A curfew will be imposed and the country, having sensed internal occupation, will switch to large-scale military operations of a partisan character. I doubt that the National Guard will help, because each of the guardsmen has their own old robbers, wives, and children robbed by the "god-like" in the family. In other words, thanks to the “wisest” policy of our “ingenious” sculpted sidekick Himself, the inevitable start of the Civil War is awaiting us. We are not talking about revolution, since the war will be precisely against the invaders, with minimal political demands. God grant that my forecast is incorrect, but somehow everything goes to this.
    1. +3
      19 July 2018 11: 24
      Not ... as long as the pivasik will be cheap .... "partisans" do not get off the sofas. wink
      1. +3
        19 July 2018 12: 15
        Quote: Snail N9
        Not ... as long as the pivasik will be cheap .... "partisans" do not get off the sofas.

        In addition to the beer, you need to live somewhere, eat something, dress in something. Yes, and the beerman himself is not free. lol
        1. +3
          19 July 2018 12: 50
          Duc, the increase will only come around when, by age, through the forests, "guerrilla" only remains with a dropper in an embrace ... And the young have no understanding of this before. I asked our young employees that they are so indifferent to raising the retirement age? they answer: "why worry? anyway, with our ecology and life until retirement, at least that way, at least we won’t survive ..." Just some hopelessness ....
          1. +1
            19 July 2018 15: 33
            Quote: Snail N9
            Duc, the increase will come round only when, by age, through the forests, "partisan" only with a dropper in an embrace remains ...

            Will people wait for the cherished 120 years to retire? Our people are sharp! laughing Already a series of robberies of banks and corrupt officials has swept and these are just flowers. Having understood the rotten nature of the criminal stratum that usurped power, the people begin to wake up. When they climb into everyone’s pocket, stealing their hard-earned money for a rainy day, the situation becomes explosive. am
          2. 0
            20 July 2018 14: 39
            Quote: Snail N9
            Duc, the increase will only come around when, by age, through the forests, "guerrilla" only remains with a dropper in an embrace ... And the young have no understanding of this before. I asked our young employees that they are so indifferent to raising the retirement age? they answer: "why worry? anyway, with our ecology and life until retirement, at least that way, at least we won’t survive ..." Just some hopelessness ....

            And you did not ask - are they ready for years to feed their old people taking them away from their family?
      2. +1
        19 July 2018 19: 12
        Quote: Snail N9
        partisans "do not get off the sofas

        What about Far Eastern partisans? Do you think that there are no people who want to let the “ops” go to the guardsmen even with cheap beer?
    2. +2
      19 July 2018 20: 01
      Incomprehensible (Boris)
      I’m more worried about the likelihood of a Robin Hood.
      ... Troublesome business ... There are no forces that would organize it .. I criminalized, went into politics and business so it’s better to steal ... Pay attention, now the type of crime is another fraud .. in various fields .. On the radio and on TV there wasn’t an unprecedented surge in programs on the topic that they wouldn’t deceive you .... We even legalized racketeering .. Debt collection service ... I remember I got a Sberbank credit card as a bonus. I didn’t use it, you give it your principle , you take strangers, you take strangers, you give yours .. But during the time I didn’t give up, after the deadline .. I began to press a certain company to overcome the calls .. return the debt .. I could not understand where the debt came from ... Then it came, went handed over a credit card .. The calls stopped .. He expressed his displeasure of course .. But in Sberbank they said that you know nothing ... This government understands perfectly. The revolutionary situation has not yet ripened ... The upper still can, the lower classes want. ..I think even in September, in orderly rows and columns, they will vote for EP ... That's exactly what is happy today, Denikin fought. Kolchakites, Petliurists and other white-pink and other multi-colored ... Which are now being heroized ..
      1. 0
        20 July 2018 06: 17
        Quote: parusnik
        parusnik (Alexey Bogomazov) Yesterday, 20:01 ↑
        Incomprehensible (Boris)
        I’m more worried about the likelihood of the appearance of "robin-hoods" ... Troublesome business ... There are no forces that would organize this ..

        Robbed, impoverished and lacking the strength for unskilled work, "underpensaries" will die silently of starvation? Where can they live if there is nothing to pay for a communal apartment? Someone will go to the porch, and someone will pick up an old shotgun. In case of failure, he will not be allowed to die of hunger in prison, and in case of success, he will receive stolen pension contributions back. The organizer is already a crazy jester and the best friend of the Tsar.
      2. 0
        23 July 2018 21: 41
        As for September, don’t forget that all the same familiar faces will be considered, do you think they will do everything right?)
        Another question is that as I heard from one man who was related to the process - “if I see that the situation is categorically and completely NOT in that direction, I’ll just get out of this, away from sin”
    3. 0
      24 July 2018 12: 16
      You should write books of art.
  12. +5
    19 July 2018 11: 00
    The government will not be dismissed. Although the idea of ​​increasing the PV is stupid, it doesn’t attract retirement. But a simple move of GDP can be done calmly. Just do not sign the law. The Duma, of course, can be adopted again by the constitutional majority, but EP certainly will not go against Putin. And as a result, everyone will be in the house, and the GDP in chocolate. He will receive a serious leap in the rating, which he can use for some unpopular decisions, plus for pushing his receiver in the next election. request
    A good indicator is that even Kudrin is trying to distance himself from this increase. Too stupid and unpopular decision. And the same EP, only after 3 years, it is necessary to be elected again. Why should they shoot themselves in the leg? request
    1. +3
      19 July 2018 12: 21
      Quote: g1v2
      The government will not be dismissed. Although the idea of ​​increasing the PV is stupid, it doesn’t attract retirement. But a simple move of GDP can be done calmly. Just do not sign the law. The Duma, of course, can be adopted again by the constitutional majority, but EP certainly will not go against Putin. And as a result, everyone will be in the house, and the GDP in chocolate. He will receive a serious leap in the rating, which he can use for some unpopular decisions, plus for pushing his receiver in the next election.

      A risky maneuver showing the incapacity and stupidity of the entire expensive state apparatus without the Tsar.
      "Sun-like", who surrounded himself with such a servile, at least not trustworthy. What about his receiver? laughing
  13. +3
    19 July 2018 12: 01
    No Rosguard will help. The bad is more and more in quantity, which, as you know, is turning into quality. In the economy, and not only in it, negative trends are beginning to prevail. The sovereign’s services are baked more about their pockets and not about the prosperity of the state. When everyone immediately becomes ill at once everyone will think - why. And then there comes a mess that knows where it will lead and where it will lead
  14. +1
    19 July 2018 12: 13
    Some here wrote supposedly bold what article .. that I did not understand, but what is the author’s courage ???
    And there will be no riots ... categorically ..
    1. +2
      19 July 2018 16: 06
      Quote: Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV (Andrey) Today, 12:13
      Some here wrote supposedly bold what article .. that I did not understand, but what is the author’s courage ???
      And there will be no riots ... categorically ..

      Bet on what?
  15. 0
    19 July 2018 13: 33
    Yes, everything will be according to plan. The government will work, Putin will sit in the Kremlin. And this whole article is another dimagogy. Why? Yes, just look at the topic photo. So what?? Starrick is about 80-90 years old. So he has only one pluses from this increase in age. This scratch young turnips. And they want to constantly pity us. That's all. Another PR action, no more.
    1. 0
      19 July 2018 16: 04
      Quote: Signaller
      Yes, everything will be according to plan. The government will work, Putin will sit in the Kremlin. And this whole article is another dimagogy. Why? Yes, just look at the topic photo. So what?? Starrick is about 80-90 years old. So he has only one pluses from this increase in age. This scratch young turnips. And they want to constantly pity us. That's all. Another PR action, no more.

      Will the country fall apart as planned? Did I understand you correctly that a social explosion is being prepared for the collapse of the country, with the goal of another redistribution of the "pie" by the new "elite"? What government will work? Muscovy, bordering the Kingdom of Voronezh? Putin will sit in what Kremlin and in what capacity? wassat
      1. 0
        20 July 2018 03: 00
        Yes, you misunderstood. Everything will be according to plan. And what you think is how people get used to it, this time. And secondly, just now there is a senile discretion of the same pension reform, which, in principle, is drummed by most people. The fact is the number of people who come to rallies against, in those cities that have not been affected by the decrees for the World Cup-18 .. Well, they’ll collect several thousand in Moscow, and that’s all ?? Millions 0 is from the realm of fiction. Pensioners have some advantages. Those who work, only insulting. And the young will not even scratch themselves.
        1. +3
          20 July 2018 06: 33
          The point is that having robbed the elderly, the "wise men" decided to leave them without a livelihood in old age. Will benefits be paid to non-employed old people? Think about what retraining courses can be offered to a 60-year-old man and how will he be quoted on the labor market with this newly acquired qualification, even if he can master it by age? All this is tinsel. It is about the genocide of the people. Remember what happened during the "monetization" of benefits to pensioners. Now the situation is more serious. Hunger and poverty await the majority of the population in old age with the luxurious life of “boyars”. Notice, people paid pension contributions, thinking of living on them in old age, and they are robbed of them. Choosing between poverty with starvation and riot, a person will choose a riot.
          1. +1
            20 July 2018 17: 05
            Yes you what. Pensions will be canceled ?? And about the 60-year-old I’ll put in my 64 years any engineer with the highest qualification. . As a manager and organizer of work on any profile. Well, according to the profile of high-voltage construction, you do not even need to leave the house. Everything will be organized at 5 points. The only thing is that I will come to the place and indicate the specific place of work. EVERYTHING .. And I spit on these courses. I myself can organize them, how to work in our conditions. And why?? Yes, because "experience is the son of difficult mistakes" helps you find good friends everywhere. Well, not at the very same point. They will give a recommendation. And off we go. And these pensioners, who only have nagging, will continue to vegetate in a niche .. I feel sorry for them. But in fact, it’s easy to help, that's all. I personally haven’t even graduated from the academy. College and all. Work experience 50 years. From engineer to senior superintendent.
            1. +1
              20 July 2018 21: 06
              Quote: Signaller
              Yes you what. Pensions will be canceled ??

              Where did I mention this? Do any of us have sclerosis? laughing
              Quote: Signaller
              And about the 60-year-old I’ll put in my 64 years any engineer with the highest qualification.

              Excuse me, what engineering programs do you own?
              Quote: Signaller
              As a manager and organizer of work on any profile.

              Straight Leonardo Da Vinci. And PAK YES why not draw something in a couple of minutes mine to organize its industrial production in a neighboring barn, weak? laughing
              Quote: Signaller
              The only thing is that I will come to the place and indicate the specific place of work. ALL..

              Aki Peter the Great!
              Quote: Signaller
              And I spit on these courses. I myself can organize them, how to work in our conditions.

              What courses? The name of Baron Munchausen?
              Quote: Signaller
              And these pensioners, who only have nagging, will continue to vegetate in a niche .. I feel sorry for them. But in fact, it’s easy to help, that's all. I personally haven’t even graduated from the academy. College and all. Work experience 50 years. From engineer to senior superintendent.

              Ah, I feel sorry for you. With all the desire, you can get a job as a “shabashnik” and even without the skills of working on a computer with construction and architectural programs you have a way to the outback, to build small cowsheds or pigsties in the taiga to farmers. Ask your young colleagues and they will confirm you my words. hi
          2. 0
            21 July 2018 15: 07
            He wrote earlier, I'm 54 years old, an electrical engineer, owning design programs: Compass 3D, AutoCAD 3D, Solid Work 3D, etc.
            I’m staying at home for two months, there is no work in my Zaporozhye! From time to time, announcements slip, I call, the first question: How old are you? That's all! I'll wait another month, then I don’t know.
            1. 0
              21 July 2018 16: 01
              Dear friends. I said that I will design any object. ? Here you need knowledge of the programs. . And in order to build this object, you need a simple and basic knowledge, how to enter this program and see the drawing. All. Yes, sometimes this is not necessary. There are different services. Drawings will be issued. I’m not designed, I’m a construction superintendent. installer. I wrote about this. And in AutoCAD, see the drawings and that's it. Therefore, this sarcasm is not necessary. And to build, and most importantly to install and establish energy equipment of any complexity, without problems. NOU is already lazy. .
              1. +1
                21 July 2018 17: 37
                Quote: Signaller
                Dear friends. I said that I will design any object. ? Here you need knowledge of the programs. . And in order to build this object, you need a simple and basic knowledge, how to enter this program and see the drawing. All. Yes, sometimes this is not necessary. There are different services. Drawings will be issued. I’m not designed, I’m a construction superintendent. installer. I wrote about this. And in AutoCAD, see the drawings and that's it. Therefore, this sarcasm is not necessary. And to build, and most importantly to install and establish energy equipment of any complexity, without problems. NOU is already lazy. .

                Less complacency, narcissism and arrogance in my opinion, you will only decorate. Read your previous posts.
                1. 0
                  21 July 2018 18: 26
                  And here it is not necessary to ulce so. What was the conversation about ?? The fact that pensioners are the most disadvantaged people. My answer was the same as a 64-year-old pensioner. I personally can put any construction manager in my belt- (without a bulldo, there wasn’t a word about design work) So you got it all wrong again. Is not it?? But the essence is the same - at 65, if a pensioner has the skills to work and experience, this is not very scary. The scary thing is the young ones — upon reaching retirement — not to earn the same experience. They can’t. So they are afraid. Why are they afraid of me ?? And already I receive a pension. I work, I’m really tired of it according to the tonsils. But the work is also the most pampered. Well, the loot is different.
                  1. 0
                    22 July 2018 11: 30
                    Quote: Signaller
                    And here it is not necessary to ulce so. What was the conversation about ??

                    Your words:
                    Quote: Signaller
                    Yes you what. Pensions will be canceled ?? And about the 60-year-old I’ll put in my 64 years any engineer with the highest qualification. . As a manager and organizer of work on any profile. Well, according to the profile of high-voltage construction, you do not even need to leave the house. Everything will be organized at 5 points. The only thing is that I will come to the place and indicate the specific place of work. EVERYTHING .. And I spit on these courses. I myself can organize them, how to work in our conditions. And why?? Yes, because "experience is the son of difficult mistakes" helps you find good friends everywhere. Well, not at the very same point. They will give a recommendation. And off we go. And these pensioners, who only have nagging, will continue to vegetate in a niche .. I feel sorry for them. But in fact, it’s easy to help, that's all. I personally haven’t even graduated from the academy. College and all. Work experience 50 years. From engineer to senior superintendent.

                    I didn’t distort anything.
              2. +2
                21 July 2018 19: 14
                My engineering teacher Ripka Grigory Ivanovich Candidate of Technical Science twice a gold medalist of VDNH. A year ago, I was visiting him at my own enterprise Zaporizhzhya el. hardware factory.
                An outstanding personality, athlete, all his life he was engaged in the barbell, a candidate for master of sports. It was painful for me to look at him. 68 years old with difficulty talking, suffocating Man.
                May God give you Dmitry in 90 years to tear managers to autocad!
                1. 0
                  21 July 2018 19: 25
                  Dear, well, we had work before. At Shatuskaya state district power station at PSU. 420 Several guys from Vashchey Kharkov went there to stop and check. Tortured to make them out. Gimor was the sea. Well, they struck. . He had a hand in it. Well, also Timofeyich, our manager. And now, the whole agreement is over. I'm on retirement. Timofeyich in the hospital .. And we live. . We are waiting ..
                  1. +1
                    21 July 2018 20: 09
                    Kharkov is not yours, and not mine!
                    This is our homeland of the USSR!
                    And that it happened with the USSR is not our fault.
                    The main thing that I realized the enemy is attacking!
                    No respite!
                    In Russia, an adequate leader.
                    We are waiting ... return! Everything else is 3D.
                    1. 0
                      22 July 2018 15: 53
                      But many wanted to come. The unity was given the green light. And all are single-citizens of Ukraine, at our facilities, no .. The same is true for MOESK or Mosenergo. No . All. Well of course you can get permission to work. Personally, he himself dealt with such issues-Gimor-Above the roof. Better to say no ... Good luck. Wait. when it rains
            2. +1
              23 July 2018 20: 55
              Quote: sokolov_vv
              in my Zaporozhye there is no work

              I just didn’t understand - how sideways is your Zaparizhzha to Russia? belay
              1. 0
                24 July 2018 12: 36
                Dear you do not have the correct pronunciation - d.b. Zaporozhye ...
                There is such a popular sign.
                As soon as in Russia, something new appears, especially if this new smells of money, then after about a year, this also appears in Ukraine. Well, I'm in the sense of robbing people.
                1. +1
                  24 July 2018 12: 42
                  Quote: sokolov_vv
                  Dear you do not have the correct pronunciation - d.b. Zaporozhye

                  Zaporizhzhia ... I was there once upon a time, the writing was very amusing.
                  Quote: sokolov_vv
                  As soon as in Russia, something new appears ... then in about a year, it also appears in Ukraine. Well, I'm in the sense of robbing people

                  Well, here you, IMHO, a little flattered Nenko. I mean "a year after, as in the Russian Federation."
                  But in general - talking about anything, I just really did not understand your logic hi
                  1. +1
                    24 July 2018 15: 41
                    Pension at 65 is a very good jackpot, maybe earlier ...
                    I will say more, I don’t know where people like Dr. Suprun come from, but certainly not from Russia!
                    Debilitating ideas and actions of the authorities just got it!
                    Instead of building, building it is necessary to rob, to fight, in the end, to ditch the country's population ...
  16. 0
    19 July 2018 13: 40
    What does the VO administration think about calls for Maidan revolutions?
    1. +7
      19 July 2018 13: 51
      Quote: Victor N
      What does the VO administration think about calls for Maidan revolutions?

      And where did you see any call here ???
      A fair indignation at the actions of inept reformers, this is a call for revolution .. yeah, but what do you think will not be an appeal to anything, an ostrich pose?
      1. 0
        19 July 2018 15: 47
        Moreover, we have before us the example of Armenia, where without the Maidan and the Revolution they threw off the snickering king. So we need to act, take an example from the Armenians.
      2. 0
        19 July 2018 19: 45
        Quote: The Swordsman
        and what do you think will not be an appeal to anything, an ostrich pose?

        This is for porn sites. laughing
    2. +7
      19 July 2018 15: 41
      Quote: Victor N
      What does the VO administration think about calls for Maidan revolutions?

      Someone called for a seizure of power or illegal actions, as such? Read the comments. People analyze the situation and the possible consequences of "genius" in the king's night pot. The situation is getting out of control in the country due to stupid and snickering officials. Possible social explosion with irreversible consequences. Better think about it, and not about looking for crime where it is not. By the way, the forum is read by those who need it. laughing
      1. 0
        22 July 2018 11: 10
        Quote: Dumb
        Better think about it, and not about looking for crime where it is not. By the way, the forum is read and "those who need it"

        You are right. It is precisely because those who, in their rage of fear of something at all, lose their ability to think, they write such protective remarks “as if nothing had happened”, forgetting that it’s better to let those who need to read what people write about ..analyzing the increase in social temperature, so that later on those on whom peace in the country depends do not experience what has already happened in the NS at 17 and 91.
        And there and there. The zazhrashivasheysya, insolent and torn off from reality, the top led the country to what it led to.
  17. 0
    19 July 2018 15: 00
    The interesting preface mentioned in the article by Sergey Pereslegin wrote to each volume the collected works of ABS. Moreover, they looked like essays on real-life events described in the stories and novels of the brothers.
  18. +3
    19 July 2018 15: 04
    What is the author talking about? Discovery of America through the window ... What a hot autumn? Name at least one sane candidate for protest? Yes, even to enjoy the authority of the majority of the population? Do not forget that the Russian Guard is well prepared and equipped and has serious privileges and benefits. So any riot is wrapped tightly and quickly ...
    Nobody will send anyone to resign, not for that he put them there. We are waiting for the increase of personal income tax, new taxes and rising prices for everything ... But not like in Ukraine ... (c)
    1. 0
      19 July 2018 15: 45
      Quote: AleBors
      What is the author talking about? Discovery of America through the window ... What a hot autumn? Name at least one sane candidate for protest? Yes, even to enjoy the authority of the majority of the population? Do not forget that the Russian Guard is well prepared and equipped and has serious privileges and benefits. So any riot is wrapped tightly and quickly ...

      Is the bill adopted at least in the first reading? It is clear to everyone that in this form it will not pass. The people showed their attitude. The degree of degree rises. Hochma will begin after adoption in the second reading.
      1. +1
        20 July 2018 10: 17
        Degrees? Which one? People will now begin to iron with new projects TNT, REN TV and other crap. Heavy artillery in the form of TV hosts, artists and other paid servants went into battle.
    2. 0
      19 July 2018 17: 24
      Quote: AleBors
      Name at least one sane candidate for protest?

      Putin !!! He will finally oppose the arbitrariness of officials, liberoids, corrupt officials of all stripes, Western henchmen and agents !!!! We wait!!! GDP save Russia, God grant you health !!!!
      1. 0
        20 July 2018 10: 19
        Yeah ... Such a whole white knight in shining armor will come out ... Do you seriously believe that? No.
  19. +3
    19 July 2018 15: 10
    ... but something heaped everything after the election (gasoline, VAT, retirement age). It seems that the government decided to exchange the votes cast by Putin for the so-called unpopular measures, and more simply, a robbery of the people.

    Author is this serious? lol
    And they say clip-like is more thoughtful only among the younger generation. The author would have to delve before writing at least on the Internet about the “exploits” of the current government for their entire period of rule, so no, until the “fried rooster” personally pecked everyone, all together shouted “approvals” and went around and put their “ checkmarks "in the election for being fooled like a frog. At the same time, in the soul, hoping that personally “me”, then it certainly will not touch, right? But when it touched and began to "inflate the frog," everyone suddenly realized that it was not comme il faut. So I want to ask: "where did your eyes look before"?
    1. +3
      19 July 2018 15: 55
      Quote: Sovetskiy
      At the same time, in the soul, hoping that personally “me”, then it certainly will not touch, right? But when it touched and began to "inflate the frog," everyone suddenly realized that it was not comme il faut. So I want to ask: "where did your eyes look before"?

      Unfortunately, people are the same all over the world. While the trouble has not touched you personally, you try to distance yourself from troubles. Now, this applies not only to us, the elderly, but also to our descendants. crying I am sure that the St. Petersburg criminal group will not stop there. May introduce a new tax to protect against alien invasion. The chances of surviving an alien invasion for the majority of the country's male population are approximately equal to surviving until a new retirement age, what a lot of money can be "mastered" by the brothers from the Lake cooperative! laughing
    2. +5
      19 July 2018 15: 58
      Yes, this question can be asked the majority of the population of Russia, although there are those who have long figured out Putin. For example, I heard the words "party of thieves and crooks" from my brother 7 years ago, and two years ago I threw myself a throat for Putin. But as the Internet began to read and watch, and not the zombie man, it was revealed that I had some kind of disgust for the powers that be, even anger that they were fooling us: one thing from the zombie man, and another in real life. For two years now, it dawned on me that Putin was the center of all this anti-people’s policy.
      1. +1
        19 July 2018 19: 18
        Quote: Fan-Fan
        Yes, this question can be asked the majority of the population of Russia, although there are those who have long figured out Putin. For example, I heard the words "party of thieves and crooks" from my brother 7 years ago, and two years ago I threw myself a throat for Putin. But as the Internet began to read and watch, and not the zombie man, it was revealed that I had some kind of disgust for the powers that be, even anger that they were fooling us: one thing from the zombie man, and another in real life. For two years now, it dawned on me that Putin was the center of all this anti-people’s policy.

        All successes in the foreign policy arena are necessary for the current regime in order to image strong power in the eyes of the West, in order to avoid attempts at interference. In this, the interests of the people and the ruling stratum coincide. The domestic policy of the regime has shown its anti-people’s, temporary character with elements of the Russian Genocide on a social basis. The split of society has already taken place, we will wait to continue. I'm afraid for the "temporary workers" it will end as for Ceausescu.
  20. -1
    19 July 2018 17: 22
    Is there at least one person in the country more popular than Putin? If only Kadyrov in Chechnya.
    These people and let them determine our future with you. And we will not let them interfere !!!!
    1. +5
      19 July 2018 19: 25
      Quote: Semen1972
      Is there at least one person in the country more popular than Putin? If only Kadyrov in Chechnya.
      These people and let them determine our future with you. And we will not let them interfere !!!!

      In no case! God forbid to prevent the "arbiters of fate"! We are just interested, will they, serfs, give villages to each other, or at retail? laughing
  21. 0
    19 July 2018 17: 41
    Thank you all for the comments, both for and against. I did not even think that there would be so many comments.
  22. +1
    19 July 2018 19: 50
    The Medvedev government is a collective Putin. But Putin will not resign.
  23. +1
    19 July 2018 19: 58
    Quote: Snail N9
    Now in Brazil .... until their demands are satisfied they work at "teaspoon hour".

    In Brazil there is no Rosguard, but in Russia there are. With retirement at 45 years.
  24. 0
    19 July 2018 21: 45
    Have the previous 30 years been calm?
  25. +1
    19 July 2018 23: 38
    Does the author of the article have something against Marxism-Leninism? It is time to realize our class interests and gain class consciousness, throw off the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie and establish the dictatorship of the working people.
    1. 0
      20 July 2018 06: 46
      Quote: Mexovoy
      Does the author of the article have something against Marxism-Leninism? It is time to realize our class interests and gain class consciousness, throw off the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie and establish the dictatorship of the working people

      The article is usually read first before criticism. Never tried it? laughing
  26. +2
    20 July 2018 00: 30
    I am 54 years old, I hardly squeeze into the minibus on a trip to work.
    The head is still working. But a spinal injury sustained in the Soviet
    army from time to time makes itself felt!
    It is impossible to leave home from the city center at 17.00 ... 18.00!
    Pension at 65? ... I'll die at the bus stop!
    1. +4
      20 July 2018 06: 41
      Quote: sokolov_vv
      I am 54 years old, I hardly squeeze into the minibus on a trip to work.
      The head is still working. But a spinal injury sustained in the Soviet
      army from time to time makes itself felt!
      It is impossible to leave home from the city center at 17.00 ... 18.00!
      Pension at 65? ... I'll die at the bus stop!

      This is exactly what they want from us. To die before reaching retirement age, leaving them our pension savings. They, "celestials," multiplying like rabbits, must provide their brood and future descendants with a steady income while maintaining a "royal" lifestyle. They consider us as slaves, obliged to die on the plantation, but before the death to feed the owners. Hama, sometimes you need to give in the face to reach him.
    2. 0
      23 July 2018 15: 09
      Vladislav, raising the retirement age for men is really pointless, but for women it is very advisable. If now 65% of men do not survive beyond the mark of 50 years, then women live much longer. Retirement at 55 years of age is unjustified when most women calmly live to 80, and are able to work up to 70 years.
      Another thing is that a one-sided increase in age only for women will cause a lot of cries about the infringement of the "weaker sex" ...
  27. 0
    21 July 2018 15: 48
    "... but something went wrong after the election (gasoline, VAT, retirement age). It seems that the government decided to exchange the votes received by Putin for the so-called unpopular measures, and more simply, robbing the people."
    Out of the blue, the government "liberalissimo", with pressure, wounded in the ass of a wild boar, with a roar, trampling and tearing the earth with a patch, flooded the people with a drill! Such a demonstratively aggressive psychic attack of the “liberalissimo” did not scare society, but in the minds of the people created an impenetrable defense against any future government endeavors that might even be useful to the people. The people needed to be prepared for the planned actions affecting the life of his many generations.
    1. 0
      22 July 2018 00: 53
      In principle, the issue of "retirement age" can be calmly resolved by the "liberalissimo" in power. But for this they need to work hard in terms of a substantial increase in the size of pensions. The average pension level should correspond to the average level of pensions in Europe and the USA, which will amount to at least $ 1000! Then there will be no problems with the life expectancy of pensioners and all sectors of society will calm down. This is a serious job for the Government! Can they do it? This is a matter of their honor.
  28. 0
    23 July 2018 15: 01
    Nikolai, I don’t think that a revolution is possible in our time. There are many reasons for this. Tracking the turmoil in the country is now easy with potential power. And the executive power in the person of the president is very competent. Any leaders will be quickly calculated and sent to the bunk for fomenting. The self-organization of people is greatly exaggerated, and the Russian Guard is created to prevent such a mess.
    I am also opposed to raising the retirement age, but it seems that the process is no longer reversible. The economic and demographic situation is such that either this retirement age will be increased, or the entire pension system will collapse. It is possible that the pension reform will be softened, made up of, say, both sexes, up to 62 years, or only women will be raised to 60 years, but the fact that the reform will be is inevitable. Well, then the president will disperse the hated government of Medvedev “because they haven’t come up with a better way than raising the age” - it’s as if people would let off steam.
  29. 0
    23 July 2018 15: 27
    The whole essence of pension reform:
  30. 0
    23 July 2018 21: 57
    Quote: AleBors
    Degrees? Which one? People will now begin to iron with new projects TNT, REN TV and other crap. Heavy artillery in the form of TV hosts, artists and other paid servants went into battle.


    In part, it’s good that they will start, I personally, while on vacation, stumbled upon not the best weather at the same time and the 2018 World Cup, led to the fact that the box began to look in huge volumes, and even if I looked at home, let's say Star - about tanks, planes and the like, but here the channels are purely federal - ORT, NTV, RTR, and the like.
    So, when active and almost every-minute campaigns started - I quit TV just a couple of days later, even stopped watching football, only made an exception to the World Cup final — so this could easily become a vaccine from TV in general ...

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