Profile Committee of the State Duma of the Russian Federation recommended deputies to support the project to increase the VAT

The profile committee of the lower house of parliament today considered a bill on bringing the VAT from the current 18% to 20% - before the document will be discussed by deputies in the second reading. In the budget and tax committee, which is headed by MP Andrei Makarov, representing the United Russia faction, after reviewing the bill, they made recommendations to colleagues in the State Duma of the Russian Federation on the subsequent adoption of the document in a subsequent reading.

Recall that in the first reading the document was already approved by the Duma members. This is July 3. This adoption took place against the backdrop of government statements that the increase in the tax rate on 2% would attract more than 0,6 trillion rubles annually to the budget as additional income. About how much money such an increase "will eat" in the wallets of ordinary citizens of Russia, including representatives of small business, in the Cabinet and the State Duma prefer not to talk.

It should be noted that budget and tax committee in the State Duma is represented very widely in the party plan. With the overwhelming majority of United Russia’s members, it also includes deputies from the LDPR, the Communist Party and Fair Russia factions. There is no official data on how the committee voted on the approval of the draft law on VAT increase.

The deputies discussed and future possible changes in the pension legislation. From the statement of Andrei Makarov:

I think that within the framework of consideration of this bill we will get the opinion of people, the opinion of public organizations from all over the country. They will be considered, and then, having summarized all this experience, we will make concrete proposals.

Comments

[Fedoslov]

Here they are, enemies of Russia. The party is eating Russia and the adherents who have joined it - SR, the Communist Party and other Zhirinovsky.

[Logall]

led by deputy Andrei Makarov, representing the faction "United Russia"

After considering the bill, they made recommendations to their colleagues in the State Duma of the Russian Federation on the subsequent adoption of the document in subsequent reading.

Almost given an order!
Yesterday I watched an interview with Siluanov, so he hinted about roads ... Like: some will go to them, including ... And I had a question: if I make travel contributions in the form of a tax, and also use toll roads, funds from which also go on the road ... And the number of cars does not decrease, which means the amount of tolls becomes larger, then: "where's the moneyZin?

[The Siberian barber]

where is the money, zing?
"this leg, who needs a leg!" (c)
Why not shout that part of this money will go to space?
In practice, any increase in fees is "justified" by the allocation of part of the money "on the road"
With fantasy BYA!

[Babalaykin]

Rather, daggers, borei armata and other t50. And there you can’t unequivocally assess the size of the drink, but on the roads you can do it well - well, a road in Russia cannot cost almost 10 times more than in Germany.

[Warrior with machine gun]

“and where to get 4 soldi?”, “in the thick wallets my boy” -f. Pinocchio, and the truth is where the money they will speak only if they hang on the rack, in other cases, arrogant lies and nothing more.

[Logall]

Zhenya, , with so much joy our wallets became thick? Let them hide in their own! Our pennies settle in them ... Not cheap pennies:
For the monthly maintenance of one deputy, this year, 1.5 million ₽ will be allocated. And they themselves raised their salaries to 0.8 million ₽.

[Warrior with machine gun]

I welcome Sanya, from Pinocchio the phrase was for an example, but I called thick not just our wallets))

[Logall]

Man, I rather asked them a question ... So, the air fluttered.

[Warrior with machine gun]

the air must be swayed more often, the wind is obtained from this, and the storm is from the wind, these gentlemen decided that everything around is dull, deaf and blind, but in fact they themselves are dumb, but also burnt))

[milling machine]

Quote: Warrior with a machine gun

I welcome Sanya, from Pinocchio the phrase was for an example, but I called thick not just our wallets))

There is an even more vital tale, Cipollino called. This is the one in which the people are "vegetables."

[Warrior with machine gun]

hard to argue))

[solzh]

Quote: Logall

"where is the money, Zin?

Offshore ...

[purple]

forgot Plato excise taxes in gasoline .... There is not enough money in the budget ... so tighten control over spending ... This is first of all ... raising VAT you ruin your production in the first place, and then, accordingly, incomes of ordinary people which are the driver of growth in the economy.
Yes, it will fill the budget in the short term, and then what? Air tax?

[Vadim237]

Of these ordinary people - 15 million taxes, do not pay taxes on income and salaries, and the increase in VAT will not especially affect their pocket.

[leshiy076]

No effect, the buyer pays VAT, the VAT rate is laid down in the value of the goods. VAT applies to indirect taxes, as well as excise taxes. The government raised the excise tax rate on gasoline and gas stations immediately raised retail prices. The same will be with all VAT items. Learn materiel, dear.

[Vadim237]

I didn’t say that it wouldn’t affect me - just such guys won’t lose much from this.

[NordUral]

And where, my friend, this digital? And about what does not affect - so learn a little the basics of economic knowledge. In each brick of brown bread (I give for simplicity of example) there is this VAT, which you, like all of us, pay for each purchase. As with all other products.

[New Year day]

Quote: purple

Not enough money in the budget ... so tighten control over spending ...

The Pension Fund of the Russian Federation intends to spend 185 million rubles on conducting outreach through television channels and radio stations. The PF does not spare money on employee salaries either: in 2017, personnel expenses will amount to 83 billion rubles - 4,3 billion more than in 2016.

[Vadim237]

Everything is in the same place - in road repair, construction of bridges, junctions, tunnels throughout Russia.

[Faith]

I see you in every topic drown for power, whatever they come up with - all for the good of the Motherland directly ... And now the propaganda lie is paid well?

[Vadim237]

Not a lie, all of what is visible and really doing. And about the effectiveness of the work of the authorities, it’s just to take Russia at the beginning of the 2000s and now in all areas, Russia is developing steadily not as I would like, but still.

[Declarant]

They do something, but for some reason in 2000 I spent 20% of my salary on a communal apartment, and now 50%. And then I lived better than now. (I did not change my apartment, job or position).

[GRIGORIY76]

Money is invested in Sarmatians, daggers, calibers, and Armats.

[NordUral]

Money is brazenly communized.

[Sweetheart]

Quote: Fedoslov

CPRF

Interestingly ... in Saratov, only a Communist deputy from the Communist Party opposed this reform, but you, with tenacity worthy of better use, throw stones at the Communists again ... an order?
Or are you with these, judging by your pathos of accusations?
The Saratov Internet magazine "Public Opinion" provides information on official income for 2017 of all United Russia deputies who have already reached an unreformed retirement age:

Nikolai Bushuev - 12 million 386 thousand rubles.
Vladimir Kapkaev - 3 million 317 thousand rubles.
Nikolay Kuznetsov - 3 million 191 thousand rubles.
Ivan Kuzmin - 2 million 905 thousand rubles.
Alevtina Losin - 1 million 919 thousand rubles.
Alexander Romanov - 2 million 664 thousand rubles.
Alexander Saninsky - 1 million 182 thousand rubles.
Nikolay Semenets - 2 million 731 thousand rubles.
Sergey Surov - 3 million 332 thousand rubles.
Mikhail Tkachenko - 1 million 390 thousand rubles.
Sergey Kharkov - 992 thousand rubles.
Ivan Cheprasov - 2 million 074 thousand rubles.
All deputies from the EP .. "poor" ..
However, revolutions just happen when the “elite”, torn off from the people, drives the citizens into a coffin, depriving them of the latter.

It seems that the Saratov “United Russia” themselves feel this. No wonder they categorically refused a roll-call vote. The results of this vote are as follows: 7 votes against raising the retirement age, 28 votes in favor.
The list of faction "EP" in the Saratov Regional Duma

1 Romanov Alexander Sergeevich
2 Semenets Nikolay Yakovlevich
3 Chernyshevsky Dmitry Viktorovich
4 Agafonov Vladimir Yuryevich
5 Alekseev Oleg Alexandrovich
6 Antonov Alexey Vasilievich
7 Artemov Pavel Alexandrovich
8 Belikov Andrey Pavlovich
9 Bolyakina Olga Vladimirovna
10 Bushuev Nikolay Alexandrovich
11 Volodin Vyacheslav Vyacheslavovich
12 Vorobyov Andrey Viktorovich
13 Dzyuban Ivan Leonidovich
14 Ermakova Julia Petrovna
15 Kapkaev Vladimir Vasilievich
16 Kirakosyan Gagik Araratovich
17 Kovalev Evgeny Petrovich
18 Kovalsky Roman Stanislavovich
19 Kuznetsov Nikolai Ivanovich
20 Kuzmin Ivan Georgievich
21 Kurikhin Sergey Georgievich
22 Litnevskaya Julia Mikhailovna
23 Losina Alevtina Valterovna
24 Naumov Alexey Viktorovich
25 Petrov Dmitry Pavlovich
26 Pisnoy Leonid Aleksandrovich
27 Rebrova Anastasia Anatolevna
28 Rogozhin Vadim Vladimirovich
29 Saninsky Alexander Petrovich
30 Surov Sergey Borisovich
31 Tkachenko Mikhail Viktorovich
32 Khanenko Dmitry Borisovich
33 Kharkov Sergey Petrovich
34 Tsipyashchuk Anatoly Fedorovich
35 Cheprasov Ivan Vasilievich
36 Chernoshchekov Leonid Nikolaevich
37 Shikhalov Maxim Lvovich
people should know their ... "heroes"

According to a reputable international organization, Russians occupy 6th place in the world in terms of time worked per year after Mexico, Costa Rica, South Korea, Greece and Chile. In the US and Europe, workers work less. Judge for yourself. A citizen of Russia works 1978 hours for a year, and Germans, for example, 1371 hours! Good difference! Even the hardworking, in our opinion, the Japanese worked less than the Russians - 1713 hours. What does this mean?
Our citizens have many overtime hours, a long working day, weekend work, plus short holidays, and often holidays are not used at all, we must take into account the length of the working week. For example, in France and Ireland, the working week is 35 hours, in Denmark 37,5, in Germany 38. "https://kprf.ru/dep/gosduma/activities/17736
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[Shahno]

And what kind of respected international organization is this?

[APASUS]

Quote: The Swordsman

Our citizens have many overtime hours, a long working day, weekend work, plus short holidays, and often holidays are not used at all, we must take into account the length of the working week. For example, in France and Ireland, the working week is 35 hours, in Denmark 37,5, in Germany 38. "

He worked in Denmark and Finland, so it’s not customary to go there on the weekend, they are resting there. Find a worker if an emergency order or production problems on a day off and for an extra fee is very problematic. As a rule, migrants work locally for no reason

[New Year day]

Quote: APASUS

it’s not customary to go there on the weekend;

In Spain, it is forbidden to call a work worker on weekends

[Greg Miller]

Here is what I want to say to this Profile Committee:

[NordUral]

The people of the West had to pray for the health of the USSR. Only thanks to its existence all of the above (working hours, holidays, etc. according to the list of social achievements) and much more did they get it. And now the boomerang is returning to its starting point.

[ancestors from Don]

All these profile committees will cling to power if they are not dragged from the feeder, and Senator Kennedy was right 100 times when he said words after talking with them, they have no strategy but only a thirst for power and money.

[Sweetheart]

Quote: ancestors from the Don

All these profile committees will be

Directly, it’s the committee who heads it? Doesn’t Makarov? U ... this gentleman has not given people life since Yeltsin’s times .. the reformatory itch is constantly ..

[Vadim237]

Each creates a feeder for himself - in the market.

[free]

Quote: Vadim237

Feeder everyone creates for himself - in the market.

And again you betrayed your essence!

[Vadim237]

If you want to live well, you have to create it, it’s difficult, but possible.

[free]

Quote: Vadim237

If you want to live well, you have to create it, it’s difficult, but possible.

You are a grabber, exploiter. Because create a feeding trough for yourself, and you create it at the expense of others. You are not interested in how others live and will live, you live exclusively for yourself.

[Vadim237]

“You live exclusively for yourself” - However, like everyone else.

[free]

Quote: Vadim237

“You live exclusively for yourself” - However, like everyone else.

No buddy, you're lying! You are an unprincipled bourgeoisie, do not touch the others, answer for yourself.

[Vadim237]

Everyone lives - it started almost from scratch, I mainly use machines and machines - I pay people salaries, everyone is happy, there is no fluid at the facilities.

[NordUral]

And how is your manger flourishing?

[Vadim237]

Excellent - this year a major contract for the manufacture of components was signed.

[Sweetheart]

Quote: Vadim237

Excellent - this year a major contract for the manufacture of components was signed.

How much does the worker get?

[KLV2018]

Quote: Fedoslov

Here they are, enemies of Russia. The party is eating Russia and the adherents who have joined it - SR, the Communist Party and other Zhirinovsky.

and in all this they are covered by the GDP.

[NordUral]

The fish rots from the head (especially if it was already rotten before) - the proverbs are not mistaken.

[USSR-1]

Quote: Fedoslov

Here they are, enemies of Russia. The party is eating Russia and the adherents who have joined it - SR, the Communist Party and other Zhirinovsky.

Shame on you!? Companies controlled by deputies do not pay VAT not because they are controlled. They are beneficial. To controllers

[Ivan Ivanov]

Here Makarov “surprised”, at Solovyov’s show this is a classic whistle about everything and about nothing.
Oleg SHEIN, SR, on the wrong side of pension reform, this is trash, comrades: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4q5acWSYbU

[parusnik]

Yeah ... I see ...

[NordUral]

Well, stupid, you Duma! And arrogant. Has it still not become clear to you that your “pension reform” will rob you of your mandates?
September 9 ride such reform lovers, and then the rest. People get smarter with your "help."

[Starover_Z]

Quote: NordUral

Well, stupid, you Duma! And arrogant. Has it still not become clear to you that your “pension reform” will rob you of your mandates?

And they in these places are periodically preoccupied with their future receipts and little by little raise the current payments, surcharges, as well as the percentage of the current salary to pay their loved ones after the military deputy battles!

Sleep peacefully deputy! The people will pay for your dream .. :)

[barclay]

But is it time to introduce a tax on deputy salary of 25-30 percent?

[Vadim237]

660 million rubles a year - something doesn’t work out well, from the salary of all deputies from the State Duma, 30% each.

[NordUral]

Easier - in the amount of a living wage for a citizen of Russia? And cut off oxygen to basic income.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: barclay

But is it time to introduce a tax on deputy salary of 25-30 percent?

It is necessary to limit the stay to two terms, so that there are no deputy pensions and know, villains, that even before it they don’t rub the chair with a “point”, and perhaps they will have to carry bags ...

[SSR]

Quote: NordUral

September 9 ride such reform lovers, and then the rest. People get smarter with your "help."

To them there the profile committee recommends something divorced from life, maybe we ourselves will recommend something for September 9th?
All for the September 9 elections, we will drop EdRo, let the banks see the sticks, forever changing colors, just to remain in power.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote from S.S.R.

All for the September 9 elections, we will drop EdRo, let the banks see the sticks, forever changing colors, just to remain in power.

March 18 already dropped ... For each ballot box you need to put a machine gunner. As soon as they have thrown it in, it’s the turn from the belt ...

[NordUral]

March 18, and before him the Putin gang confused the people of the head. I think that now there will be fewer such unconscious people and we will be able to drive this organized criminal group out of power. albeit gradually, but confidently. Without Maidan, and systematically and stubbornly ousting these from power.

[Alf]

Quote: NordUral

I think that now there will be less such fainted

Will not be. People like Boris55 will still believe that the iPhone is to blame, and the great Putin has nothing to do with it.

Quote: NordUral

but systematically and stubbornly ousting these from power.

For each honestly thrown blank, the "independent" members of the election commissions will throw 10. By election, this power cannot be expelled, only in one gulp of Aurora.

[NordUral]

This, as the last option, is terrible for the people.

[purple]

Yes, it will not deprive ... I do not see the point in the Duma in such an option as it is. Why do we need this bunch of parasites that also feeds us crazy bills? How much salary does each deputy have? 400 or 500 thousand? plus the cost of maintaining this little thing .... We do not need this! There is no effect.

[NordUral]

Not all these matters, but in the social system. Without fundamental changes in the country everything will be like grandfather Krylov in his fables.

[Declarant]

It seems to me that they won’t work out. Recall March ....

[Mountain shooter]

They prefer not to talk about how much money such an increase will “eat” in the wallets of ordinary citizens of Russia, including representatives of small businesses, in the Cabinet and the State Duma.

Exactly the same. Tutelka in the tutelka. What is the question about? We now have a budget surplus of approximately this amount. But again, everything depends on the price of hydrocarbons. Drop oil - and mustache ...

[The Siberian barber]

.. Drop oil - and mustache ...
Well, they will say, as usual: "I couldn’t, I!"
So that is all...

[Vadim237]

The money will go to the Reserve Fund - I will.

[Alban]

Again, at the expense of the population, the government is solving its financial problems! We are waiting for a price increase for everything ..

[NordUral]

You are just waiting, lucky! They have already reached us for a visit.

[Alban]

Quote: NordUral

You are just waiting, lucky! They have already reached us for a visit.

I’m already waiting for nothing but war and turmoil ..

[major147]

Quote: Alban

Quote: NordUral

You are just waiting, lucky! They have already reached us for a visit.

I’m already waiting for nothing but war and turmoil ..

But there is an opportunity to get something!

[Vadim237]

It’s good that I don’t have a mobile phone.

[NordUral]

And some before.

[milling machine]

News about what? Just think, they will increase VAT and pence. age, prices take off, etc.
Most importantly, Putin gives valuable instructions to the Trump agent - they will rule the world together. And Ukrainians again have some kind of problems. The World Cup, rockets will not be analogous - that’s what a true Russian patriot should think about, otherwise “the enemy”, “Bandera” and “nat-traitor”.



Hope sarcasm is clear?

[purple]

Quote: frezer

News about what? Just think, they will increase VAT and pence. age, prices take off, etc.
Most importantly, Putin gives valuable instructions to the Trump agent - they will rule the world together. And Ukrainians again have some kind of problems. The World Cup, rockets will not be analogous - that’s what a true Russian patriot should think about, otherwise “the enemy”, “Bandera” and “nat-traitor”.



Hope sarcasm is clear?

not really, sorry no cons.

[Mihail55]

Quote: NordUral

September 9 ride such reform lovers, and then the rest. People get smarter with your help

I would very much like for the candidates to consolidate on this issue. It’s easier for people and the result will be predictable at times! Not much time is left. And yet, it is very important to do without lovers "cling to someone else's glory." I mean, supporters of Navalny and Sobchak and others like them. Our Fatherland is in danger, no laughing matter.

[NordUral]

To the point, Michael! It's time for the leaders to unite and put their personal ambitions to hell. And people like Zyuganov should not be allowed to go for a kilometer. And it’s time for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation to decide whether they are stuck with the criminal regime or the People’s Party.

[shura7782]

All of their shoals in the economy urgently want to cover at the expense of the people. Apparently she was brought to such a point after which - EDGE. The submission of the material to the media goes with such subtext as if the people in a single impulse approves all these new requisitions
You give VAT 22% !!! Urr..aaaaaa !!!

[purple]

Quote: shura7782

All of their shoals in the economy urgently want to cover at the expense of the people. Apparently she was brought to such a point after which - EDGE. The submission of the material to the media goes with such subtext as if the people in a single impulse approves all these new requisitions
You give VAT 22% !!! Urr..aaaaaa !!!

Weeds in filling the budget .... which our "ingenious" financiers have undermined by raising the key rate ... all over the world the industry is flooded with money ... in our country, raising rates to extortionate ruined it when it was just starting to develop ... and now, according to the assurances of the government, inflation is no more than 4%, then what is the key rate of 7.25? And loan rates from 12? what development is possible under such conditions?
and instead of stimulating development, they increase the tax burden on already barely living enterprises even more.
There is only one conclusion: the economic wing of our government consists entirely of wreckers who are well aware of what the country is leading to, will cause another crisis with their actions, and will seize what’s left behind

[shura7782]

Quote: purple

Quote: shura7782

All of their shoals in the economy urgently want to cover at the expense of the people. Apparently she was brought to such a point after which - EDGE. The submission of the material to the media goes with such subtext as if the people in a single impulse approves all these new requisitions
You give VAT 22% !!! Urr..aaaaaa !!!

............ and to the quiet they seize what remains

Ready for departure to the alternate aerodrome !!!

[NordUral]

For this apotheosis of the mundial’s beer frenzy (what a word), Putin and his gang spent more than 14 billion. bucks! This is how many plants needed by the country could be built from Kaliningrad to Sakhalin?
Yes, for a month everyone shouted how wonderful everything had gone, how great we are, they, foreigners, before that considered us savages, and we, it turns out, are wonderful white people. Only this was so during and immediately after the Winter Olympics in Sochi, where incredible funds were piled in, and we all saw the result all these years.
So I am for introducing a moratorium on holding all sorts of grandiose events in our country and for the accelerated new industrialization of the country.

[Vadim237]

Yes, they poured money into the industry so well that they stumbled on reductions all the time, the GM crisis of 2008 09th - as an example to you. Mass reductions were everywhere, Russia suffered the least from this, thanks to the Kudrinsky Reserve Fund, which was accumulated from the excess profit from oil, before the crisis. VAT will increase to 20% and contributions to insurance, pension and medical will be reduced from 34 to 30%.

[NordUral]

Do not fool us with the heads of Kudrin genius, as well as the benefits of the lack of domestic industry, 237th, please.

[Vadim237]

“As well as the benefits of the lack of domestic industry” - you will always have it absent because you have nothing to do with it and you don’t know about it - in Russia everything is produced from pins to rocket engines, reactors and satellites.

[New Year day]

Quote: Vadim237

in Russia, everything is produced from pins to rocket engines, reactors and satellites

it in what cartoon showed?

[Vadim237]

The cartoon is called - life, even household appliances under foreign brands are produced in Russia, with the machines and everything else the same thing - they localize production in our territory.

[New Year day]

Quote: Vadim237

household appliances under foreign brands are produced in Russia

those. if sets of equipment are brought to us and a Russian worker collects it all into something, is this a Russian production? BMW or Hyundai - is it a Russian car? Himself not funny?

[Ivan58]

And what was the crisis for Russia? There was enough money. The government did not know how to dispose of them. They would build and repair roads, if necessary, purchasing equipment over the hill. Or developing YOUR industry. There would be taxes and money in the budget. And they thoughtlessly chose to eat and steal.

[Vadim237]

“You would build and repair roads if you need to buy equipment over the hill” - All this was done before 2008, you probably missed everything.

[Alf]

Quote: purple

There is only one conclusion: the economic wing of our government consists entirely of wreckers who are well aware of what the country is leading to, will cause another crisis with their actions, and will seize what’s left behind

But the political wing does not know about it ...

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: shura7782

You give VAT 22% !!! Urr..aaaaaa !!!

Who said and deduced the formula that the buyer should pay VAT? This tax must be paid by the merchant. One who sells something. A progressive VAT scale allows you to control the prices of goods and services. And these "bad people" have completely lost their arrogance. Those who are lucky are loaded. It's time parasites to throw off the neck ...

[filatik]

Drive such power! I’m curious, would all “our” politicians take such a step as raising the retirement age for all Russians without exception, including deputies (without early retirement) at 68, 65, while lowering the level of salaries for deputies to the average for Russia? It is unlikely that such a bill would be introduced at all!

[purple]

for the Cops, it would also be nice to raise their age .... with their law enforcement then ... up to 70 years

[Million]

State Duma of the Russian Federation. Double strike!

[Topotun]

At least someone recommended reducing the number of our "people's representatives". And at the same time to introduce responsibility, up to criminal responsibility for decisions that harm the people of Russia.

[ultra]

Quote: Topotun

At least someone recommended reducing the number of our "people's representatives". And at the same time to introduce responsibility, up to criminal responsibility for decisions that harm the people of Russia.

Create a petition, I will subscribe.

[purple]

Quote: Topotun

At least someone recommended reducing the number of our "people's representatives". And at the same time to introduce responsibility, up to criminal responsibility for decisions that harm the people of Russia.

reluctance to sit ... there every second decision is

[major147]

Quote: Topotun

At least someone recommended reducing the number of our "people's representatives". And at the same time to introduce responsibility, up to criminal responsibility for decisions that harm the people of Russia.

I am afraid that the deputies passing the laws will not agree to this.

[ultra]

Well, we ourselves chose them, so there’s no one to blame.

[vanavatny]

a herd of useless, gluttonous parasites ...

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: vanavate

a herd of useless, gluttonous parasites ...

In the photo, the slobbery and creepy lawyer Makkarov ran for Kuzbass under Tuleyev, and Fedyaev was also a large-scale boxer. Now it’s screaming that people want good things, but they don’t understand anything ... To everyone’s barracks, to clean the taiga and feed the gnats ...

[Samarskiy]

You have to pay for everything and keep the videoconferencing device hyped. You can still increase excise taxes. And then something vodka and gasoline are quite cheap

[Vadim237]

The main thing is that excise taxes would be increased on vodka and smoke - the population will drink less and smoke. And there is so much that needs to be maintained: retirees - of which 42 million in the country, an army, a social network every year need 5 trillion for it, energy, the fuel industry, infrastructure throughout the country - to maintain and develop, transport, roads, roads, railways - all this tens of trillions of rubles are tedious, and the reserve fund needs to be replenished - suddenly tomorrow the world financial crisis will strike again or a natural disaster like the summer of 2010 will happen.

[New Year day]

so you say that everything in the country is developing, building, improving. But where is the profit from this development? Already stolen?

Quote: Vadim237

The main thing is that excise taxes would be increased on vodka and smoke - the population will drink less and smoke

like smart, but don’t go to the store; moonshine still Finnish is sold legally in stores. No one has ever bought vodka in villages since the days of the USSR.
Just someone will eat less, remind me of a joke?

[Vadim237]

Drive samopal - there will already be negative consequences. Like where is the money from all this construction, high-tech production, it pays off only 5-7 years after opening, bridges dozens of years later and everything else is in the same vein - profit does not appear quickly in such matters, it quickly appears only when selling raw materials, and that’s not all.

[New Year day]

Quote: Vadim237

Drive samopal - there will already be negative consequences

you tell it in the outback of Russia. The impression that you live in a skyscraper and do not go down to earth

[l7yzo]

It’s good to confuse people. The law was adopted in the First reading, with revision. And not that they didn’t accept it, in the first reading, but modified its type and changed it back to consideration.
These are two big differences. Fellow journalists, please do not confuse things in places and give out one after another.

[reservist]

Quote: l7yzo

It’s good to confuse people. The law was adopted in the First reading, with revision.

[Real russian]

In this thread, just the same census of people with the Maidan mentality.
Maidana wanted?
Personally, I support the decision on 20% VAT. And judging by how the liberals moved, they raise little! Need more.

[NordUral]

You don’t scare us with maidans, my friend. We will take out this gang of enemies of the country (with few exceptions) in the elections, systematically and persistently.

[Real russian]

Quote: NordUral

You don’t scare us with maidans, my friend. We will take out this gang of enemies of the country (with few exceptions) in the elections, systematically and persistently.

- Well, here are the supporters of Navalny pulled themselves together. :)))

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Real Russian

Need more.

You need to - you pay more, albeit 100% ... We saw such speakers in the area of ​​the Soviets when the "Winter Cherry" burned down ... All of them are so correct, you won’t drive up on a tattered goat. And as they sensed a club at the ridge, they immediately sang differently ...

[Nix1986]

Set an example, start with yourself - do you already go in a quilted jacket? You start the morning with the boyars?

[would]

So we’ll write “Stalin was the first Maidan” because for this they shot him.

[New Year day]

Quote: Real Russian

Need more

I agree with you! It is necessary to create such conditions for the people that they could not breathe, that they would pay for everything — the school, the FAP, the hospital. The hospital should be no closer than 300 km from the place of residence and then on the list

[l7yzo]

It doesn’t bother you that with us a VAT tax can be levied on many. The first is wholesalers / manufacturers, the second if it is clumsily bought, then again they charge VAT. And what happens already at the end is +6%, not + 4%. Then we go further if we took the goods for the service - then there is still + 2%, but because of the line of interest to the final product they will give + 9-10%. Those. at prices will be + 5-10% this is your harmless +2% VAT.

[Altona]

Quote: Logall

I watched an interview with Siluanov yesterday, so he hinted about the roads ..

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the funny thing is that 18% is not enough for anything, but + 2% should be enough. So can 18 cancel in that case? He is so funny, this bald mathematician Anton Siluanov.
PS After football there was a Pozner show and this guboshlep again repeated his squalid primitive arguments in favor of raising the retirement age.

[Vadim237]

"Poor primitive arguments for raising the retirement age." Your proposal - at the expense of what and whom, to raise all 42 million pensioners to pensions up to 20000 and higher - the required amount of 10 trillion a year.

[reservist]

Quote: Vadim237

right amount of 10 trillion a year.

against the current 7 trillion

Your suggestion

You can cancel the income limit when calculating pension tax
it is possible to equalize the male and female retirement ages, but for each adult child reduce the retirement age for women for a couple of years
you can endlessly raise the retirement age to maintain the current ratio between the number of pensioners and working ...
but most likely it will all be a "dead poultice", you need to radically do something with taxation in general, because the source of the problem is the “gray” salaries, from which social taxes are not paid ...

[Nix1986]

"According to the results of the past period of 2017, the Audit Chamber revealed more than 6,5 thousand violations totaling 1,9 trillion rubles. At the same time, the volume of identified violations that have a direct impact on the loss of the federal budget or bear the risk of damage to the state is reduced"- so, and how many have not yet been identified - at least the same !!! There will be enough to retire everyone after school

[Vadim237]

This money was allocated, and it was used inefficiently, obviously not in retirement.

[Altona]

Quote: Real Russian

Personally, I support the decision on 20% VAT. And judging by how the liberals moved, they raise little! Need more.

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You can even rewrite your apartment on Kabaeva. Who will forbid you?

[Altona]

Quote: Vadim237

The main thing is that excise taxes would be increased on vodka and smoke - the population will drink less and smoke.

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Right the voice of a statesman rang out. The monopoly of the state must be introduced, so what a trifle in your pockets to poke?

[Altona]

Quote: Real Russian

Well, here are the supporters of Navalny pulled themselves up. :)))

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A supporter of United Russia came running to label.

[Terenin]

If you calculate all direct and indirect taxes and insurance premiums, you want to go back to the Tatar-Mongol yoke, there was 10% and that’s it.

[reservist]

Quote: Terenin

there was 10% and that's it

except for service in the Khan’s army ...

[Altona]

Quote: Vadim237

Of these ordinary people - 15 million taxes, do not pay taxes on income and salaries, and the increase in VAT will not especially affect their pocket.

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Yes, yes, let’s get rid of these 15 million people. So chtoli?

[Vadim237]

So they already want - access to all bank accounts, provide tax.

[reservist]

it’s not clear how to deal with them ...
since they work, then they must pay taxes ...
but if you pay all the taxes, then some of them will go broke ...
in the tax system itself something needs to be changed so that such production and taxes pay, and do not close ...

[Altona]

Quote: Fedoslov

The party is eating Russia and the adherents who have joined it - SR, the Communist Party and other Zhirinovsky.

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There is no need to rush slogans ... The systemic opposition, it is all against it, only the imperious EP. Do you call for a senseless and merciless Makhnovist rebellion? You are now invoking.

[Vard]

The whole trick is that again everything is at the expense of the poor ... How is it that one old woman is a ruble ... and ten old women ... that's ten rubles ...

[serge siberian]

Each election does not vote for ER. Why are they clueless? They say it will be easier for the people. They lie as always. People will only listen when they take up axes and pitchforks. They’re not allowed to hold meetings. Especially in the central parts of the city. they want to stuff wallets.

[senima56]

This is the same Mr. A. Makarov, who on TV assured that "the pension will grow at a thousand rubles a month!" He listened and “did not believe his ears”! But someone "laughed" ?!

[Vadim237]

At a thousand rubles a year - just a tree Makarov.

[Fox]

Today in 5: 00
Alexander Ivanovich crossed the threshold of the apartment, hung a cloak on a hanger, and only then removed a sensor from the bridge of the nose showing how much air he had consumed while traveling around Moscow. They began to levy a tax on air in Russia a long time ago, five years ago. They were motivated by the fact that sewage treatment plants would be installed with these funds. Alexander Ivanovich took off the pedometer - small foot shackles connected by a thin chain, also equipped with a sensor - they also levied a tax on movement in the streets, which, according to officials, was spent on the repair of sidewalks.

I went into the room. Mother-in-law, as usual at that time, watched the program "News of the Mausoleum", which gave the population a sense of eternal rest. On the screen around the Lenin’s coffin, a commentator paced and talked about stability in all areas. My wife cooked pasta. My son played with a red cat who was catching a paper bow.

- Sasha, did you pay the tax on the cat? - Strictly asked the mother-in-law.
- I forgot.
- Again! How so?
“Mom, would you chat less,” Alexander Ivanovich remarked evilly. - Because of you, the tax for the conversation is growing. Whether it's dad.
The father-in-law nodded and gesticulated something, using the alphabet of the deaf-mute. And then he tapped the phrase with Morse code.
“Old swindler,” thought Alexander Ivanovich.
A talk tax has been introduced so that citizens do not waste time discussing reforms, while we need to catch up and overtake Ukraine.
The entire apartment of the average Russian was now blinking with the lights of sensors that record speech, movement, spending public utilities. They were supplied to the state by the family of oligarchs Vrotimgerb - friends of the One Whom You Can't Call.

Alexander Ivanovich went into the bathroom. In disgust, he glanced at the soapy water in the bathtub where the whole family had already washed - the water tax was too high.
On the toilet ticked the tax sensor on natural items.

[Vadim237]

Exactly, - to introduce a tax on the faulty fuel equipment of gasoline and diesel engines of cars and trucks - there will be less harmful emissions, and the fuel will be consumed two times less - MOT and checking the fuel system, every year. And the draconian tax of 60000 to introduce.

[Ivan58]

Soon, it seems, they will introduce a land tax for a place in the cemetery.

[Alf]

Quote: Ivan58

Soon, it seems, they will introduce a land tax for a place in the cemetery.

Already offered.
They suggested that each person from their salary on a MANDATORY basis pay 6%. The money will go to a personal account in case of death to pay for funeral services. What the state can do with the bill at any moment is silent.

[Altona]

Quote: Vadim237

"Poor primitive arguments for raising the retirement age." Your proposal - at the expense of what and whom, to raise all 42 million pensioners to pensions up to 20000 and higher - the required amount of 10 trillion a year.

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The draft law does not say this, it means this is a usual propaganda chatter ... In addition, there is a "budget rule" about "cutting off the amount exceeding the budget price for a barrel of oil", in addition there are 8 trillion unused balances of the federal budget, except there is an unused progressive tax scale. Well, the banal launch of the industry, loaded at 40%. Yes, a lot of things so as not to rob people.

[Vadim237]

All these cut-offs go to the reserve fund - in case of crises and the rest like the summer of 2010 - the piggy bank is vital, especially now. "Banal launch of the industry" - Who will buy all this and who told you that the industry is 40% loaded? "Progressive tax scale" - In Russia, and so, 15 million do not pay taxes, and with this scale they will not pay even more.

[aloleggry]

The industry is definitely underloaded. In the season, they usually got the second shift, but now there are a lot of them. You asked the right question - who will buy? Why do you think Stalin lowered prices after the war? And I would buy people, but nothing.

[Alf]

Quote: Vadim237

In Russia, and so 15 million do not pay taxes, and with this scale they will not pay even more.

And why then feed the tax authorities?

[Declarant]

To replenish the pension fund to the required level, these your 15 million (as I understand it, these are entrepreneurs) are not needed. Progressive tax, here is the solution.

[Vadim237]

Introduce a progressive tax - immediately the prices for everything will skyrocket, the people are greedy - they won’t just give the money away.

[New Year day]

Quote: Vadim237

Enter a progressive tax - right there, prices for everything will skyrocket

interesting. why have prices soared? from the lack of a progressive tax?

[Altona]

Quote: senima56

This is the same Mr. A. Makarov, who on TV assured that "the pension will grow at a thousand rubles a month!" He listened and “did not believe his ears”! But someone "laughed" ?!

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Yes, this is a hypocritical and insidious yap, a misanthrope, a lawyer and not at all an economist Makarov (most likely a Jew who covered himself with a Russian surname).

[Altona]

Quote: Vadim237

So they already want - access to all bank accounts, provide tax.

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Wow, Vadim, Kapets banking secrecy. Here I totally agree with you.

[Zomanus]

So what? The main thing is to cut down the dough from the people. And what’s this for the people
but it’s not a noble matter to understand this.
But they will still buy yachts and build palaces,
with some abroad.
And at the same time they urge people to multiply, damn it ...

[gukoyan]

... but they watched football.
Eh, it’s necessary to bring down this garbage ...

[Ivan Ivanov]

A small offtopic, in my opinion, is wonderful:

[tank64rus]

Went to throw garbage. In the trash, two pensioners climb into the tanks. I want to ask the deputies how much the number of people in garbage can increase after these next "reforms." And stop lying to people. Now the number of people thrown out of pre-retirement age will increase sharply. Rumors that the government will ensure that old people are not fired except for squeamishness have nothing to do with it. They cannot even collect taxes, but here they will tell the entrepreneur who to take. It’s just schizophrenia, if not more. Indeed, the enemies of the people are sitting in government and the Duma is evident from all that they accept.

[Brigadier]

And after all, what’s the most interesting is these “people's chosen ones” NEVER ATTACKED OLIGARCH'S SUPER INCOME! They are EVERYTHING try to do At the expense of the people !!!
And who leads them ?! Who gives the go-ahead for all these matters? Who initiates ALL THIS? I give a hint ...
His last name begins with "poo"!

[Alf]

Quote: Brigadier

And who leads them ?! Who gives the go-ahead for all these matters? Who initiates ALL THIS? I give a hint ...
His last name begins with "poo"!

The surname begins on Me. Pu do not know ...

[gloomy fox]

and the poor will become even poorer and the rich will be even richer! it won’t bring any benefit. all the same it will be small since there are many holes in the budget and they will not steal less. But the purchasing power of the population will decrease, and there is nothing good. It will not bring only impoverished people, do not test the fate of the Lord rulers!

[Mihail55]

Today Makarov was on a talk show at the First at Sheinin. And where are the opponents ??? This is not a dialogue, but a monologue.

[Viktor77]

"Godfathers on the gangway" decided for the whole people.

[985.560]

The Basic Law is the Constitution of the Russian Federation. Article 55, part 2 explicitly and definitely defines: “No laws shall be enacted in the Russian Federation that abrogate or derogate the rights and freedoms of man and citizen.”
Increasing the retirement age and receiving appropriate payments 8 years later for women and 5 years later for men obviously belittles and cancels their right to legal rest.