How do we build a strong Russian economy? Part of 4

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In the previous articles of the cycle, we listed the actions due to which some of the problems of our economy could be resolved. Recall them again.

A stable ruble exchange rate relative to world currencies should be achieved by a fixed ruble exchange rate to the chosen currency. It is no secret that today the Russian economy is heavily dependent on imports of various kinds of goods, and, alas, there is no doubt that this will continue to be the case - import substitution is, without a doubt, an archival and archival thing, but you need to understand that a country with a population of less than 150 million people, moreover, forced to produce almost the entire range of weapons necessary for its strategic nuclear forces, army, airborne forces and fleet, will not be able to provide herself with all the necessary goods exclusively of her own production. We will continue to make bulk purchases of products from other countries, and we should not be afraid of this - but we should minimize exchange rate fluctuations, as they break down the economy of enterprises using imported equipment and components, and also have an extremely negative impact on purchasing power population - which, in turn, is also harmful to the economic development of our country.

In general, our key task in foreign trade is not to abandon it, but to ensure the development of our economy, in which we would sell foreigners more goods than we bought from them. This is the main condition under which a fixed exchange rate will contribute to the development of our economy. To achieve this, the state must take control of the foreign trade balance - that is, its task is not only to determine the fixed rate for the next year (previous rate + planned ruble inflation), but also to restore the monopoly on foreign exchange earnings, as well as the use of comprehensive support measures own manufacturer in order to maximize exports while minimizing imports.

In one ofarticlesdevoted to the possible transformations of the Russian economy, an interesting proposal was voiced - to transfer trade in our oil products for rubles. That is, it is about concluding contracts with foreign buyers not in dollars or euros, but in rubles, and let them buy our rubles for currency to pay for contracts.



Unfortunately, such a scheme of work will not bring us anything except losses. The thing is that there is a world market for oil and gas, and their prices are set in exactly the dollar equivalent. Accordingly, any buyer who dares to conclude a ruble contract buys a “cat in a bag” - if suddenly the ruble exchange rate rises against the dollar during the contract period (that is, more rubles will be paid for the dollar), the buyer will benefit because when buying rubles, he will spend less currency, but if he does the opposite, he loses. In this case, neither one nor the other option is bad for us, but we will explain this with an example.

Suppose a dollar is worth 60 rubles, and the world price per barrel of oil is 50 dollars, or 3 000 rubles. at the time of the transaction. We conclude a contract for the supply of a certain amount of oil during the year on 3 000 rub. per barrel. In order for the buyer to pay us these 3 000 rubles, he needs to spend 50 dollars by buying rubles on them and paying these rubles to us. But if the value of the dollar suddenly rose to 70 rubles, then it will be enough for him to pay only 42,86 dollars, and he will win, and we? We lost - instead of changing the barrel of oil to 50 dollars, we will change it to 42,86 dollars, and what is the benefit?

Suppose the ruble strengthened against the dollar, and the latter began to cost not 60, but 50 rubles. In this case, the buyer for the execution of the contract will have to spend on the purchase of 3 000 rubles. no longer 50, but 60 dollars, but why would he do that if oil on the world market costs 50 dollars per barrel, and not 60? He will break the contract, if he can do it, and if he cannot, he will remain unhappy with the deal and in the future will try to buy oil from someone else. In general, trading for rubles generates great uncertainty and risks for both the seller and the buyer. Nobody needs such risks and only pushes buyers away from us - they will prefer to enter into dollar transactions with other sellers. It ends with the fact that our sales volumes will fall - but why do we need this? As a matter of fact, the sale of oil and gas for rubles would suit everyone only with a fixed exchange rate of the ruble against the currency, but in this case it does not make sense - sell at least for dollars, even for rubles, the amount of currency entering the country will not change.

The next task - providing the economy with a sufficient money supply - can be solved by a rather simple mechanism of filling the economy with money, which, alas, has caused rejection of many VO readers. Let's try to explain his work again.

As we have said, a simple injection of money into the economy (for example, in the form of additional loans issued to commercial banks by issuing money from the Central Bank) leads only to spur inflation, and does not help us to solve the problem. This is due to the fact that such money injections only increase effective demand, but it is much easier for the manufacturer to respond to this by increasing prices (which he urgently needs), and not by increasing the quantity of goods and services produced.

We need something completely different. The fact is that the lack of money has led to the fact that our enterprises, for the most part, have huge debts that impede normal economic activity. The scheme “buyers do not pay me and I do not pay suppliers” has long become natural for our firms, but this, of course, is completely wrong. And you need to understand that this is not a question of the mismanagement or incompetence of a business - we have half the amount of money in the economy per ruble of production in the economy than in the euro countries. Quite often, enterprises that are successful and have profits “on paper”, but nevertheless experience a shortage of funds due to late payment of customers and, therefore, often cannot provide their production activities with timely deliveries of raw materials and materials. The lack of funds worsens the economy of enterprises, as it often forces them to purchase not from the one who offers the best price, but from the one who can give a big delay in payment. Therefore, we need to come up with such a way of introducing additional money into the economy, in which this money would be used to normalize mutual settlements, and would not create additional effective demand and would not inflate inflation.

This is the way the author suggested. We must first significantly toughen the penalties for late payment of debts and simplify the procedure for collecting funds from debtor enterprises, that is, create a conscious need for enterprises to pay their bills in time, and only when this need is obvious for them, give them This is money. At the same time, the issuance of funds, again, should be strictly targeted, that is, the money transferred to the company should be used by it to pay off debts to suppliers and contractors, and not on anything else.

In other words, if we at the legislative level provide for a limit on the maximum deferred payment in the contract, and also provide for a mechanism for extrajudicial debt collection (or judicial, but very accelerated, allowing you to collect money for 25-30 days after the start of the delay), but we will declare that these changes will take effect, say, in a year - and at the same time provide an opportunity to attract financial resources to cover the debts to suppliers and contractors, then it will go, and the money entering the economy will be spent We are talking about the normalization of mutual settlements, and not the rise in prices. Accordingly, we will be able to replenish the economy with money, without dispersing inflation.

The only question that arises is “under what sauce” to give money to enterprises. The easiest way is targeted loans, which would be extremely convenient for us, because banks have long and very well worked out procedures for monitoring the targeted spending of funds issued for loans. But alas, this method will not work for us, because today the majority of enterprises are already indebted and do not indulge in anything and simply cannot take any new loans, but they will take a lot of them.

This is where the idea of ​​a credit amnesty is born - that is, we need to issue loans not in addition to those that the company has already gained, but instead of them, that is, replacing them. That is, when a target loan is issued, the bank should “forgive” the enterprise for the same amount of existing debt. As a result, a balance of interests is achieved - let's explain this with a simple example:

1) The Central Bank (CB) issues 1 million rubles. There is new money that needs to be channeled into the economy;

2) A certain enterprise wants to receive a loan of 1 million rubles. in order to pay off their overdue obligations to suppliers and contractors. But it already has a loan of 1 million rubles from the bank and cannot take more;

3) The Central Bank transfers 1 million rubles to the bank free of charge, and the bank “forgives” the company’s loan debt for 1 million rubles. Thus, it turns out that the bank does not lose anything - it had an asset in the form of an enterprise liability for 1 million rubles, and now it has been replaced by money in the amount of 1 million rubles;

4) The bank issues a loan of 1 million rubles. the company to pay its obligations and control the execution of payments.

As a result, we achieve the goal - by issuing 1 million rubles, we introduced them into the economy in such a way that they reduce the overdue debts of the enterprise, and the indicators of other participants of the action did not change - the bank did not receive superprofits, because He was "forgiven" the debts of the enterprise, and the enterprise, as a result, as it had debts to the bank in 1 million rubles, continues to have it. The company did not add any money either, since the million loan to it went to pay off its debts, but the amount of these debts decreased.

And here many readers suspect that something in this scheme is unclean. After all, if everything worked as outlined above, it turns out that the state, occasionally conducting credit amnesties, has the opportunity “for no particular reason” to regularly repay the obligations of enterprises, arranging for them “heavenly life on earth” - but it also does not happen! After all, everyone knows that free cheese can only be in a mousetrap.

That's right, but we must not forget that such a scheme is not a means of subsidizing enterprises, but a way to replenish money in the economy (although this, of course, will help the business). We do not have enough money in circulation, as we said earlier, in terms of money supply per ruble of GDP, we are losing to the eurozone countries by half. Our enterprises are “paying off” for a lack of money - they do not have enough money to carry out their activities, and they are in debt like silk. Accordingly, by increasing the money supply about twice, we will largely solve the problems of non-payments, and really ease the position of enterprises - this is quite positive. However, if we continue to arrange issues and credit amnesties according to the proposed scheme, then the amount of money supply will exceed the production of products and services - and then we will begin to cause harm instead of benefit, because by our actions we will disperse inflation. In other words, the proposed method will work only until we restore the normal ratio of money in circulation to the goods being manufactured, and then its use will be impossible.

Interestingly, the normalization of mutual settlements between enterprises will become a very serious factor inhibiting inflation. The fact is that today enterprises, realizing that they will be waiting for money for the delivered products for a very long time, inflate prices. Deferred payment, in essence, is a form of credit to the person to whom it is granted, but the loan is a paid thing, so the seller overcharges the price - he lays in it not only the company's normal profit, but also a certain percentage for using its funds. Accordingly, with the normalization of payments, the company will either be able to reduce the price for its goods, or, selling for the same price, extract greater profits - which, again, will be good for the business, but also for the end buyer, because with such a profit, the manufacturer can and wait with the price increase.

A fixed ruble exchange rate will also lead to a decrease in inflation. After all, our exchange rate jerks are one of the strongest stimulators of its growth - as soon as the ruble once again sinks down, imported components become more expensive in ruble equivalent, respectively, the cost of production with such components grows and, sooner or later, leads to the need to raise prices on her.

All this is important, but inflation itself will not win. In order to introduce inflation into the framework acceptable to us (that is, Central European 1-2%), we will need a drastic reduction in bank interest rates on loans - at least to 3-4%. This can be done only if the key rate of the Central Bank (as well as the refinancing rate) is reduced to 1-1,5% maximum. The author of this article does not see any “invincible” reasons why this cannot be done, although it is possible that this will require a significant change in the organizational structure, working conditions and tasks of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation.

A fixed ruble exchange rate, replenishment of the money supply and low interest on the loan - these are the three pillars on which low inflation is based, but they will also need a fourth one - this is the professional work of the antimonopoly committee that prevents unreasonable price rises for natural monopolies (such as as electricity, it is clear that if a certain city receives electricity from hydropower plants, then it has no choice from whom to buy it), as well as cartel collusion (with the goal, for example, of raising domestic prices for gasoline).

So, we have analyzed the ways to achieve four goals from the five voiced by us. Only the support of the domestic producer remains - but this is such a voluminous topic that it should devote a separate article to it.

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  1. +5
    20 July 2018 06: 11
    Really ... Declare war at
    Singapore and immediately surrender ...
    1. +9
      20 July 2018 06: 37
      How do we build a strong Russian economy?
      with Siluanov and a hedgehog with him? no answer ....
      1. +4
        20 July 2018 08: 12
        with Siluanov and a hedgehog with him? no answer ....

        Emotionally, for the girl comments.
        For the sect "witnesses of a good life under Putin"
        She does not say only one thing, but it will come up — the government will fight to the end to increase the PV and VAT, because the money is for the pros. And either raise, or admit that there is no money
        1. +1
          20 July 2018 12: 54
          Quote: passing
          For the sect "witnesses of a good life under Putin"


          Strong! good laughing Only they will not put up with this situation for a long time. Over the Russian Orthodox Church threatened to fade into the background. :-)
      2. +1
        20 July 2018 15: 35
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        How do we build a strong Russian economy? with Siluanov and a hedgehog with him? no answer ....

        The nationalization of plundered property and the restoration of the industry ...
        1. dSK
          0
          20 July 2018 23: 26
          Quote: Alber
          industry recovery ...

          "Beware the yuan in reserves!" July 18, 2018 (topwar.ru/144510-ostorozhno-yuan-v-rezervah.html
          # comment-id-8444557)
          ...The yuan is fully controlled by the People's Bank of China.
          ...at Asian Chinese yuan has almost replaced the Japanese yen in the role of leading regional.
          1. dSK
            +2
            20 July 2018 23: 49
            Andrey from Chelyabinsk: "Accordingly, by increasing the money supply by about half, we will largely solve the problems of non-payments, and really ease the situation of enterprises - this is quite positive.
            In euro countries, for one euro of manufactured products, 0,84 euros of money supply in circulation. We have artificially limited money supply. "
            This is the strategy of our Central Bank., "sauce" containing inflation. Despite the fact that the rate at which he credits the Russian economy is several times higher than the "foreign".
            But the “Gaidarites” hold the “defense” firmly:

            Vladimir Aleksandr Mau - Since 2010 - Rector of the Russian Academy of National Economy and Public Administration under the President of the Russian Federation. Acting State Advisor to the Russian Federation, Class I (2001), Member of the Presidium of the Economic Council under the President of the Russian Federation, Executive Director of the Organizing Committee of the Gaidar Forum.
            Besides - Member of the Supervisory Board of Sberbank PJSC Deputy Chairman, independent director;
            Member of the Board of Directors of PJSC Gazprom (since 2011), independent director.
            1. +3
              21 July 2018 00: 07
              Quote from dsk
              This is the strategy of our Central Bank, "under the sauce" to curb inflation.

              I know that’s just what annoys ... a bit. In a normal country, the head of the Central Bank for the words that I say that I am not responsible for the development of the economy, but only for inflation, would be fired immediately without a severance pay. And we have Sakhipzadovna in authority
  2. +6
    20 July 2018 06: 38
    For some reason, the author stubbornly does not want to notice. What credit not given to banks is money supply within the economy, which was not withdrawn from it, by banks. And now, after that, if we forgive him the loan that was not given back and give out a new one (which means that in the economy additional emission will occur). It will simply be an increase in the money supply by the amount of forgiven loans (and re-issued loans), and everyone needs free loans, an increase in the money supply will be colossal, hence the enormous inflation. It must be understood that if someone cannot give a loan to the bank, this does not mean that this money has disappeared. They remained in the economy, it is just that the direct bank debtor does not have this money. His counterparties on whom he spent this loan money, or their counterparties still have them and they are rotating factually in the economy. You need to understand that it is no accident that in all developed countries a very flexible institution of bankruptcy is highly developed, and to understand that this has not just happened. It is not so important who you pump up money with. Banking sector or real. All the same, the issue occurred and this money will go into circulation.
    1. +2
      20 July 2018 07: 02
      Quote: Vladimirovich_4
      What credit not given to banks is money supply within the economy, which was not withdrawn from it, by banks.

      This is not money supply, it is an obligation.
      Quote: Vladimirovich_4
      And now after that, if we still forgive him the loan that was not given back and still give out a new one (which means that in the economy additional emission will essentially occur)

      what we need
      Quote: Vladimirovich_4
      That will simply be an increase in the money supply by the amount of forgiven loans (and repeated loans)

      That's right, we are striving for this
      Quote: Vladimirovich_4
      the increase in the money supply will be colossal, and colossal inflation will come from here.

      Just the proposed mechanism allows you to avoid it. That is, we emit money into the economy practically without inflation
      Quote: Vladimirovich_4
      All the same, the issue occurred and this money will go into circulation.

      So this is what we need :)))) We have 42 kopecks of money in circulation per ruble of manufactured goods. In euro countries, for one euro of manufactured products, 0,84 euros of money supply in circulation. We have artificially limited money supply, we simply do not have enough money to ensure the exchange of goods. That is why we need emission and an increase in the money supply, the whole question is how to invest it in the economy without accelerating inflation. I suggested this mechanism
      1. +1
        20 July 2018 07: 14
        Non-inflationary emission. This is of course fun. But this is only possible with a higher rate of emission of reproduction of goods (demanded expanded reproduction)
        In general, why did you invent this complex bike. It’s easier to lower the key rate and refinance non-repayable loans with repayable ones (there are even negative rates in the world where you are paid for a loan and not you to the bank). But here a million problems will come out. But this is at least a proven working method (though sometimes it ruins the economy too)
        1. +1
          20 July 2018 07: 29
          Quote: Vladimirovich_4
          Non-inflationary emission. This is of course fun. But this is only possible with a higher rate of emission of reproduction of goods (demanded expanded reproduction)

          No, and I explained this in an article.
          Inflation occurs with the growth of solvent demand. If market participants are forced to use additional money not to purchase, but to pay off old debts, then such demand practically does not arise
          Quote: Vladimirovich_4
          It’s easier to lower the key rate and refinance non-repayable loans by repayable

          And there will be nothing - as there was money in the economy, it remains. And we need to increase the money supply
          1. +1
            20 July 2018 07: 39
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

            Inflation occurs with the growth of solvent demand. If market participants are forced to use additional money not to purchase, but to pay off old debts, then such demand practically does not arise

            Do you seriously think that even if round debtors pay off their debts to creditors, then there will not be an increase in payment demand (at least for the same creditors, but as a rule it will happen even for a paying debtor)?

            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            Quote: Vladimirovich_4
            It’s easier to lower the key rate and refinance non-repayable loans by repayable

            And there will be nothing - as there was money in the economy, it remains. And we need to increase the money supply


            Well, here, in my opinion, there is a misunderstanding of the mechanism of refinancing loans and, in general, monetary policy.

            In general, for the interest it would be necessary to imagine where and when similar operations were carried out and with what nuances. We have our own special way. Here he will be simply unrealistically special. Personally, I would not want to try this.
            1. +1
              20 July 2018 07: 44
              Quote: Vladimirovich_4
              Do you seriously think that even if round debtors pay off their debts to creditors, there will be no increase in payment-demand

              With a parallel tightening of the collection of overdue debts, this will not happen, because THIS mechanism will eat up effective demand :)))
              Quote: Vladimirovich_4
              Well, here, in my opinion, there is a misunderstanding of the mechanism of refinancing loans and, in general, monetary policy.

              I have a great understanding of both, as well as the fact that the existing methods of monetary policy will not help us - we drove ourselves into a completely unscientific (from the perspective of economy and monetarism) situation from which there is no way out of the framework of classical monetarism. Accordingly, it is proposed to go beyond it, although taking into account the theory of economics
              1. 0
                20 July 2018 10: 07
                Somehow I did not immediately see this interesting answer.
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                Quote: Vladimirovich_4
                Do you seriously think that even if round debtors pay off their debts to creditors, there will be no increase in payment-demand

                With a parallel tightening of the collection of overdue debts, this will not happen, because THIS mechanism will eat up effective demand :)))


                Can you illustrate your point with something? For me, this is nonsense.
                It’s really interesting (I think not just me), maybe the dog is buried in this.
                1. +1
                  20 July 2018 14: 20
                  Quote: Vladimirovich_4
                  Can you illustrate your point with something? For me, this is nonsense.

                  Yes, I’ve done it so many times that I don’t even know how to do it yet.
                  Here is the enterprise. He does not have enough money in circulation, and it begins to "save" them by delaying payments to its agents - that is, it does not pay on time for the supply of raw materials, materials, services, etc. In fact, the company thus secures a loan at the expense of suppliers.
                  However, the enterprise is also someone else’s supplier. And he, the enterprise, his customers also do not pay on time - that is, they are credited at the expense of him. As a result, the enterprise itself owes a lot, and it owes a lot, but for the Russian Federation today this is the norm.
                  Suppose we give this company the opportunity to get money on credit. And here the company has 2 options - it can spend this money on payment of its overdue debts, or it can just buy something new on them (let's say equipment) or start a new project on them (for example, try to expand production on existing equipment) .
                  So the first (cancellation of their overdue debts) does not form the company additional solvency. The company in this case has not acquired anything, but only extinguishes existing and past due obligations. But the purchase of something new or a new project - they form and drive inflation.
                  Therefore, if the state with one hand begins to force the company to pay its debts in a timely manner (legislative prohibition of large arrears in the contract, a simplified mechanism for collecting debts, penalties and fines for overdue debts), and with the other - gives money for this, then we are pouring money into the economy Thus, we do not increase solvent demand, but only normalize the situation in settlements between enterprises.
                  Naturally, under such conditions, the issuance of money to cover debts is not uncontrolled (for example, an enterprise can get a loan only in the amount of the excess of accounts payable over accounts receivable, the rest must be collected from its debtors) and a number of nuances
                  1. +1
                    20 July 2018 14: 47
                    Well, I do not agree with you. Like you with me. We will not convince each other. I continue to insist that with any reduction in the debt burden, the company will always increase solvent demand, since the desire to buy something does not disappear even among round debtors, and it becomes even stronger among debtors coming out of debts. Thanks for the answer nonetheless. One way or another, this is done for the benefit of and will be interesting to other visitors to this site.
                    1. +1
                      20 July 2018 15: 19
                      Quote: Paul 1
                      Well, I do not agree with you. Like you with me. We will not convince each other.

                      Well, then I propose to dwell on this hi I liked your manner of conducting the discussion, you are very culturally debating and I would not want to overshadow such a brilliant beginning with an inappropriate ending - and this can happen, since the conversation has reached an impasse
                  2. 0
                    20 July 2018 15: 11
                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    So the first (cancellation of their overdue debts) does not form the company additional solvency. The company in this case has not acquired anything, but only extinguishes existing and past due obligations. But the purchase of something new or a new project - they form and drive inflation.

                    Even if we assume that this is so (however, I disagree with this), it is worthwhile to understand that this will create additional solvency for the creditors who have paid it, and who now, thanks to this scheme, finally got their funds back and can begin to dispose of them further (that is, form solvent demand, which is not balanced by anything, because the debtor also felt better and he didn’t consume less either), and before that they couldn’t because their money somehow hung from the debtor.
                    Well, all this can endlessly procrastinate. In general, it was very interesting to discuss, but what everyone believes in what he believes.
                    1. 0
                      20 July 2018 15: 38
                      Quote: Paul 1
                      Even if we assume that this is so (however, I disagree with this), then it is worthwhile to understand that this will create additional solvency among the creditors who have paid off, and who now finally thanks to this scheme have received their funds back and can begin to dispose of them further (

                      That's right :))) But now the rules have changed, and we have to constantly pay our debts to suppliers now
                      Consider this from this angle - until now, suppliers have essentially credited the company (by deferring payments they allowed it to use their financial resources) and now this cannot be done. Thus, the company loses credit from suppliers and thereby loses working capital available to it, but, having received money from the bank to cover debts, compensates for this. Total - debts paid, but the amount of working capital remained unchanged, that is, there was no increase in solvent demand
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      3. 0
        20 July 2018 07: 18
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        Quote: Vladimirovich_4
        What credit not given to banks is money supply within the economy, which was not withdrawn from it, by banks.

        This is not money supply, it is an obligation.

        What are you talking about? What is the obligation if you have forgiven everyone? And the bank was given money so that he would not die.
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

        Quote: Vladimirovich_4
        All the same, the issue occurred and this money will go into circulation.

        So this is what we need :)))) We have 42 kopecks of money in circulation per ruble of manufactured goods. In euro countries, for one euro of manufactured products, 0,84 euros of money supply in circulation. We have artificially limited money supply, we simply do not have enough money to ensure the exchange of goods. That is why we need emission and an increase in the money supply, the whole question is how to invest it in the economy without accelerating inflation. I suggested this mechanism

        That is how we have achieved a reduction in inflation. It makes no sense to compare our economy with the European one. There are no institutions. High risks. Therefore, we do not like them. We go in a special way.
        1. +1
          20 July 2018 07: 41
          Quote: Vladimirovich_4
          That is how we have achieved a reduction in inflation. It makes no sense to compare our economy with the European one. There are no institutions. High risks.

          Common words ... And zero specifics.
          There are no mythical institutions, and the economy really makes sense to compare - we are competing with it, if that.
          Quote: Vladimirovich_4
          Therefore, we do not like them

          Not therefore, but because of the stupidity of those in power who are unable to build an adequate financial system.
          Quote: Vladimirovich_4
          What are you talking about? What is the obligation if you have forgiven everyone? And the bank was given money so that he would not die.

          This is me about the fact that you completely did not accept what is written in the article. We gave the company money so that it could pay off overdue debts, but accordingly reducing its obligations to the bank (which, despite the issuance of an additional loan, remains unchanged) and thereby filling the economy with money without increasing the mass of enterprises' obligations to the bank
          1. 0
            20 July 2018 07: 46
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

            There are no mythical institutions, and the economy really makes sense to compare - we are competing with it, if that.

            Mythical institutions. And we are being taught fools as it turned out to be wrong. And all this is not necessary. And the boys in the west do not know that they are engaged in garbage there.
            Well, okay. Thanks for the info.
            1. +2
              20 July 2018 07: 53
              Quote: Vladimirovich_4
              And the boys in the west do not know that they are engaged in garbage there.

              The boys in the west do not engage in garbage - so they have a money supply of M2 of 0,84 euros per 1 euro of manufactured goods. They, Western boys, provided their economy with money - their money supply allows for the normal exchange of goods. They are great, and they do not need such methods - why?
              Our money supply is half as much. Therefore, we cannot have a normal exchange of goods on the model of what the western boys have. And if we want to compete with them, then we need to somehow add the same amount of money supply that is now in circulation, but without accelerating inflation
              Of course, there is another way - we have been pushing our economy for 18 years, we are not letting it grow, and we can do this further with the words "High risks ... There are no institutions ... the right western boys ..."
              But we can take and finally bring the economy in order. Using means that were not used by anyone before, and not be surprised at this, because we managed to stick our heads so deep into ... one dark place like no other western boys did. Therefore, they should not get it from there, unlike us.
              Quote: Vladimirovich_4
              Well, okay.

              I'm sorry, but - I doubt it very much
          2. 0
            20 July 2018 08: 02
            We gave the company money so that it could pay off overdue debts


            How interesting. For example, you owe me 1000 rubles. It’s written in my notebook. Pavel comes and gives me this thousand, for you to cross out the entry in the notebook, give this thousand to you again and write in the notebook again ... As a result, I again have no money, there is an entry in the notebook .... And the interest my where? laughing

            Maybe I won’t cross out anything, I won’t give you money either, but I’ll buy dollars for this thousand to earn money on courses? wink
            1. 0
              20 July 2018 08: 05
              Quote: tasha
              And where is my interest?

              If you gave me 1000 rubles at a percentage, then nothing has changed :))) At one point, you simultaneously wrote off 1000 rubles of debt, issued 1000 rubles of a loan and entered again 1000 rubles of debt - all this happened simultaneously, so the percentage was both charged and charged, and as I owed you 1000 +% I remained laughing
              1. +2
                20 July 2018 08: 13
                Let me give you 800 rubles better, but I’ll take 200 out of interest ... Because while I was expecting money from you, interest came to my creditors / depositors ...

                Let Pavel buy tanks from you for 1300 rubles, so that you give me 1200 and you still have 100 left for drinks. Friday ... But Pavel will sell these tanks to someone abroad or in a storage room ....
                1. +1
                  20 July 2018 08: 20
                  Quote: tasha
                  Let me give you 800 rubles, I’ll give you 200 rubles, and I’ll take XNUMX for the interest ...

                  I think bargaining is inappropriate here! laughing
            2. +1
              20 July 2018 08: 07
              Quote: tasha
              Maybe I won’t cross out anything, I won’t give you money either, but I’ll buy dollars for this thousand to earn money on courses?

              The state has a different task
              1. +4
                20 July 2018 10: 10
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                The state has a different task

                The state may have another, but the capitalist has one task - to secure a profit for himself and he does not care about the state.
      4. 0
        20 July 2018 13: 17
        Andrei from ChelyabinskI agree with you that some countries emerged from the crisis precisely by throwing money in to the population, increasing its purchasing power, thereby stimulating production.
  3. +1
    20 July 2018 08: 16
    but to ensure that our economy develops in such a way that we sell more goods to foreigners than we buy from them.
    ...Those. reach the level of China ...?
    1. 0
      20 July 2018 08: 18
      Quote: parusnik
      ...Those. reach the level of China ...?

      In China, in 2017, the foreign trade balance was negative :)
      1. +1
        20 July 2018 08: 23
        And I'm not talking about the balance in 2017 ... sold less in 2017 and so what? ... The big picture, China is the main supplier of consumer goods .. all over the world ... How can I beat Russia with a whip, but a butt ... ensure the development of our economy in which we would sell more goods to foreigners than buy from them...As long as we buy more goods from China than we sell ... so as an example ..
    2. 0
      20 July 2018 10: 13
      Quote: parusnik
      ...Those. reach the level of China ...?

      Unlike China, Russia has had a positive trade surplus of the year since 1994.
      1. +2
        20 July 2018 11: 46
        Yeah .. I went to the store. A product to buy. Whose? Chinese, and whose is this? Chinese and this and this..And this is German? German, but the assembly is Chinese..And this? This is a Russian company, but assembled in China .. And this? Turkish and collected in Turkey ... I went into another, the same picture .. And you tell me about the balance ...
        1. +1
          20 July 2018 13: 58
          Quote: parusnik
          And you tell me about the balance ...

          Yes, about the balance :))) For more than 20 years the Russian Federation has been selling more than it is buying (hint - oil and gas :)))))
          1. +1
            20 July 2018 14: 04
            Well, I have to ... I didn’t know .. I opened my eyes .. And I thought jeans, shoes, irons, vacuum cleaners, computers, sports equipment, furniture and many other good goods ... Aaaabaldet .. Oil and gas, not believe me, in shock ... laughing
            1. +1
              20 July 2018 14: 33
              Alexei, what do you want to say? :))) There is a fact - today the Russian Federation sells more than it buys. From stupid jokes this fact does not change
              1. +1
                20 July 2018 23: 32
                ensure the development of our economy in which we would sell more goods to foreigners than we would buy... There is a fact - today the Russian Federation sells more than it buys.... You would have decided on your thoughts ...... Your proposal, contrary to your own fact ...The Russian Federation has been selling more than buying for more than 20 years (hint - oil and gas :)))))... Actually, what do you want: to ensure such a development of our economy that we would sell more goods to foreigners than we would buy or sell more oil and gas .... You really wanted to say something by this .... I ask the master .. .
                1. +1
                  21 July 2018 00: 16
                  Quote: parusnik
                  You would have decided on your thoughts ......

                  Alexei, you really don’t understand, or are you too lazy to read articles? :)))))
                  Today we have the economy in the afhedron, but the foreign trade balance is positive. I propose measures to improve the economy, one of them is a fixed ruble exchange rate, but such a measure will be effective only with a positive foreign trade balance (when we sell more than we buy). So, in the course of economic recovery, we, of course, will increase the demand for foreign goods and this can lead to a negative balance and the collapse of the entire system that I propose. Whatever this happens, the state must build this very balance of foreign trade operations into one of the most important indicators. That is, it is not enough to have a surplus today, it is necessary to keep it in the future, when the economy begins to get in order, and there is already not enough oil and gas for this. Accordingly, we need to pursue an import substitution policy on the one hand, and stimulate our non-gas exporters on the other.
                  1. +1
                    21 July 2018 07: 48
                    You will be surprised, I understood this very well ... Therefore, you left your initial comment .. You started writing to me about the negative trade balance of China ... China has a policy of import substitution, it does not matter how it does it, but it implements the world The Russian market, in my opinion, is overwhelmed with its goods, but now they have difficulties, but so that the purchasing power of the population would increase, they would go on a tax cut for the low-income, small businesses ... You would reflect the following in the next article. What would you you offer import substitution in the policy, substitution should take place not only in the field of technology, but also in the field of consumer goods. It is these goods that you offer to sell to foreigners and the more the better ..
                  2. +1
                    21 July 2018 12: 16
                    What is good for a Chinese ---- a Russian --- will not like it. I read that a 16-hour working day with short breaks, even with equal retirement age in China, receive pension in accordance with applicable laws 40% of age people, the amount of pension is 10% or 20% from salary, depending on the place of work.
                    Why not sell consumer goods? I recall Ostrovsky ---- "Why don’t you take a bribe?" ---- "Yes, I would take ... Yes, who will give me ...."
        2. 0
          21 July 2018 18: 34
          Quote: parusnik
          Whose? Chinese, and whose is this? Chinese and this and this .. Is this German? German, but the assembly is Chinese ..

          Do you buy air?
  4. +1
    20 July 2018 08: 17
    I summarize (I understand that the author will now begin to write that yes you didn’t understand everything is wrong, I’m talking about something completely different, here such a thing is simple and tricky so far no one has done it, and we will do everything well and correctly repair the economy)
    All the same, in fact. For all this credit scheme. There is a simple old good idea "if someone doesn’t have enough money for something, then you need to print it and give them to them" Then everyone will have enough money and everyone will be well paid off and heal happily without excessive debts. In general, the problem is that we have little money in the economy (therefore, actually, they are not enough). We will print it out correctly and distribute the problem. Hurray comrades, ladies and gentlemen. Well, by the way, this is all normal. Pluralism is generally good (at least they say so).
    1. 0
      20 July 2018 10: 21
      Quote: Vladimirovich_4
      There is a simple old kind idea "if someone doesn’t have enough money for something, then you need to print it and give them to them." Then everyone will have enough money and everyone will be well paid off and will live happily ever after.

      Well, why is the idea bad conceptually? It will give money to the economy to increase the production of goods, it will also give money to purchase these goods (indirectly, through workers' salaries), respectively, the growth in demand for goods will be offset by their increased supply, which is what the economy needs. Of course there is a risk that the capitalists will try to use this money for speculation, but then the state’s task is to ensure that speculators unwind inflation to hit the greedy, sweaty hands, for which you need to adopt a law on maximum trade margin, which directly affects the size of the margin on the seller’s goods and the size tax rate for such a seller.
      1. +1
        20 July 2018 10: 52
        The problem is that the value of money is not fixed; it is not value in itself. Money is just a measure of the transfer of the value of goods and services. There is not enough money not from the fact that they are few, but from the fact that in the current conditions you cannot attract them in sufficient quantities. Therefore, if you give everyone more money, it will very quickly become apparent that they are again lacking, although the value of money has decreased more (inflation has occurred) and it simply will be that now many owe conditionally tens of thousands, and then they will owe millions. The problem is not that there is little money (such a problem was when the money was gold and silver), but that economic entities are ineffective and unable to attract them.
        1. +1
          20 July 2018 14: 00
          Quote: Vladimirovich_4
          There is not enough money not from the fact that they are few

          Once again :)))) We have money for a unit of goods TWICE LESS than in euro countries. It’s not clear to me why you ignore this fact.
          1. 0
            20 July 2018 14: 40
            They will be half as much. We have shorter money for long cycles of high-tech industries. And to buy fruit in a stall every day. There is no need to print a lot - the turnover is large, there are enough of those. You can increase the amount of money per unit of goods, but then suddenly, because instead of 1 ruble per unit of goods, there will be 2 rubles per unit of goods, then a unit of goods will become worth 2 times more expensive. This is capitalization. If you look at the faculty for the course, you will see that in the west it is much higher. That is, their comparable price level is much higher. People pay much more for similar goods there. From that, and the money supply is one unit higher. Again, bringing our money supply to the same as ours means for us a transition to a new price level (that is, inflation). But the truth is the drawdown of the course will return to normal.
            1. +1
              20 July 2018 15: 18
              Quote: Paul 1
              We have shorter money for long cycles of high-tech industries. And to buy fruit in a stall every day.

              Pavel, you just said a thing that absolutely does not correspond to reality.
              You just compare their GDP and ours. There, the overwhelming part of their GDP is SERVICES, which, as you know, are different from goods in that the time it was provided coincides with the time it was consumed. That is, in the economy as a whole, their cycles are shorter than ours
              Quote: Paul 1
              then suddenly due to the fact that instead of 1 ruble per unit of goods, there will be 2 rubles per unit of goods, then a unit of goods will become worth 2 times more expensive.

              In the option I proposed - no
              Quote: Paul 1
              If you look at the faculty for the course, you will see that in the west it is much higher. That is, their comparable price level is much higher. People pay much more for similar goods there. From that, and the money supply is one unit higher.

              Pavel, you ... do not argue with arithmetic. In euro countries, 1 euro is worth 0,84 euros of goods. This has nothing to do with the cost of a unit of goods
              1. +1
                20 July 2018 15: 24
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                You just compare their GDP and ours. There, the overwhelming part of their GDP is SERVICES, which, as you know, are different from goods in that the time it was provided coincides with the time it was consumed. That is, in the economy as a whole, their cycles are shorter than ours

                So what? Services are communications IT medicine, construction, education, energy and so on. These are very complex and long process chains.
                1. 0
                  20 July 2018 15: 32
                  Quote: Paul 1
                  These are very complex and long process chains.

                  And very short in terms of funds turnover, but that only matters :)))
                  1. +2
                    20 July 2018 15: 51
                    Well, if for you the energy sector, construction, shipbuilding, aviation, or the same astronautics as an example (Elon Mask also indicates services first of all) have a very short turnover. Then I do not know what is long.
                    1. +1
                      20 July 2018 17: 37
                      Quote: Paul 1
                      Well, if for you the energy sector, construction, shipbuilding, aviation, or the same astronautics as an example (Elon Mask also indicates services first of all) have a very short turnover. Then I do not know what is long.

                      In your opinion, the same Europe does not build airplanes? :))) One Airbus makes them more in a year than we do in three.
                      But the bottom line is that they are dominated by services in the structure of GDP, that is, their turnover on manufactured products is higher than ours.
  5. Cop
    +1
    20 July 2018 08: 57
    We should achieve a stable ruble exchange rate relative to world currencies by means of a fixed ruble exchange rate to the chosen currency.
    Is that what they think in Chelyabinsk there? Do you have a concept about oil futures? He hesitates, the ruble hesitates. And you propose to fix it .... As our president once said: “Why will we give the opportunity to earn money for international speculators,” and he let go of the ruble. Did absolutely right. The result we all see. But you, Comrade Andrei, whose mill are you pouring water on?
    1. +1
      20 July 2018 14: 22
      Quote: Cop
      As our president once said: “Why will we give the opportunity to earn money to international speculators,” and he let go of the ruble. Did absolutely right. The result we all see.

      We see. The ruble is an extremely speculative currency that international speculators earn, and the economy of enterprises is in the uttermost afedrone, forgive my French.
      Quote: Cop
      But you, Comrade Andrei, whose mill are you pouring water on?

      To the mill of the Russian Federation, of course
      1. dSK
        +2
        20 July 2018 23: 17
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        The ruble is an extremely speculative currency on which they earn international speculators

        All our banks will also categorically against "firm" state regulation of the ruble exchange rate.
        1. +1
          21 July 2018 00: 18
          Quote from dsk
          All our banks will also be categorically against "firm" state regulation of the ruble exchange rate.

          You can’t even imagine how close to my heart I will accept their pain and indignation laughing
  6. +1
    20 July 2018 09: 02
    Well, let’s wait for the author’s advice on how to boost the economy of our country. They give a lot of advice, but for some reason no one mentions the role of the regions. They should have their own regional banks in order to boost medium and small businesses. And here it’s decided the rise of agriculture, and tear from the tenacious claws of a large
    business. The fact is that agricultural products have been imported, although we are in this sector of the economy
    have not reached the highest growth. Work here is not endless.
  7. +4
    20 July 2018 09: 07
    Anecdote:
    "There were mice. Everybody insulted them. Once the mice came to the owl: - A wise owl, help! We all eat. Soon we won't be left. What should I do? The owl thought and said:“ Mice! Become hedgehogs! You will be prickly for hunters The mice ran joyfully: "We’ll become hedgehogs! We will become hedgehogs! Suddenly one stopped:" Does anyone know how to become hedgehogs? Nobody. They ran back to the owl. "Owl! And how do we become hedgehogs?" Mice, leave me alone! I know how? I’m not a tactician, I’m a strategist! "
    1. +1
      20 July 2018 14: 23
      Given the fact that the author voices both the tasks and the ways to solve them, the value of the joke you quoted ... laughing
  8. +5
    20 July 2018 09: 55
    Nonsense, very remote from the real economy.
    At best, economic manilism.
    1. +1
      20 July 2018 14: 23
      Quote: capitosha1rang
      Nonsense, very remote from the real economy.

      Short, clear, and endlessly stupid
  9. +5
    20 July 2018 10: 24
    I have big doubts that our political leadership is capable of something sensible, effective. As before, they work in a "hap way", to take away and divide from the people. For so many years nothing sensible has been done in the economy, where now.
    1. +1
      20 July 2018 14: 24
      Quote: vladimirvn
      I have big doubts that our political leadership is capable of something sensible, effective.

      Me too. I am writing in order to remind what the government should do, but I do not expect it to do this. It is more interesting and easier to hold mundial and raise the retirement age
  10. +3
    20 July 2018 10: 54
    The whole point of the article was to remain within the framework of the liberal economy with some varnishing. This will not work.
    Without a change in course towards building a state with a planned economy (with market elements that doesn’t contradict the social state at all), with a ruble independent of oil and the dollar (without a budget rule strangling our country), without reviving a truly social state, nothing will change in the country for the better. Everything else is from the evil one.
    1. +1
      20 July 2018 14: 26
      Quote: NordUral
      The whole point of the article was to remain within the framework of the liberal economy with some varnishing. This will not work

      Generally speaking, it will come out, but this is not about that. A purely planned economy (like in the USSR) will not work today, but the symbiosis of the market and the plan is very much, but I will describe how to do this in the next article
      1. 0
        21 July 2018 01: 13
        What is the plan - I have orders determined by the quantity in the contract, with the corresponding cost, to produce more - why, who needs it, so that these products are not needed in the warehouses, nor any planned economy market - there is demand, there will be an offer - no demand, no supply. And on an empty place, no one will waste time, money and materials.
        1. 0
          21 July 2018 01: 41
          Quote: Vadim237
          What is the plan - I have orders determined by the quantity in the contract, with the corresponding cost, to produce more - why, who needs it

          We will talk about this in more detail in the next article.
          Quote: Vadim237
          nor any planned economy market

          Will be - for her, in fact, the future
        2. 0
          25 July 2018 14: 22
          Vadim, don’t make yourself an institute. A planned economy on a national and regional scale, a market for small things.
    2. +1
      21 July 2018 15: 43
      Add sad irony, too, if you think about it, in the subject.
      Picked up a dropped receipt from his mailbox, it turned out that he was a neighbor who had not lived in our house for a long time. I read it, maybe I should call and inform (occasionally we communicate).
      But when he saw the notice, he changed his mind, but decided to hang it out at VO. Instructive paper.
      I removed personal and address data for obvious reasons. Everything else is original.

      It would be funny if not so sad. That's how we profiled our country. And now all scum can wipe their dirty feet about us.
      1. +1
        21 July 2018 17: 00
        Why burdock - because the Soviet people pro-tumbled the USSR.
  11. +3
    20 July 2018 11: 20
    "Therefore, we need to come up with a way to introduce additional money into the economy, in which this money would be used to normalize mutual settlements, and would create additional solvent demand and not inflate inflation."

    An article in the style of the Medvedev government is about nothing. To contain inflation and stimulate production, a superprofit law is needed. And in order to develop the production of consumer goods, we need the consumer demand of the population, and for this we need a fair salary. But the author carefully avoided this topic, as did the authors of the pension reform. It’s a pity you can’t put a minus.
    py si
    it is impossible to pay different salaries for the same work in different regions of Russia: ONE COUNTRY - ONE LEVEL OF SALARY
    1. +2
      20 July 2018 14: 28
      Quote: uskrabut
      Super Profit Law needed to contain inflation and stimulate production

      So, you still believe that our enterprises have excess profits that someone steals. Sadly :))
      Quote: uskrabut
      it is impossible to pay different salaries for the same work in different regions of Russia: ONE COUNTRY - ONE LEVEL OF SALARY

      Even in the USSR, salaries in different regions were different (district coefficient)
      1. +2
        20 July 2018 14: 35
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        So, you still believe that our enterprises have excess profits that someone steals. Sadly :))

        The law on superprofits does not give an opportunity to overstate the rate of profit, but stimulates the expansion of production, it is strange not to understand this. This will help restrain inflation, all developed countries have such legislation when, with an increase in the percentage of profits, sanctions are imposed on the enterprise that make such an increase unprofitable.
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        Even in the USSR, salaries in different regions were different (district coefficient)

        I do not argue, and even agree, if in the Far East and in the North, the salary will be higher than in Moscow. In other cases, I'm sorry, but in the Central Federal District there should not be different salaries for the same positions.
        1. +1
          20 July 2018 14: 44
          Quote: uskrabut
          The law on superprofits does not give an opportunity to overstate the rate of profit, but stimulates the expansion of production, it is strange not to understand this.

          I say - you believe that our profits are too high lol
          Nikolay, I worked at many enterprises in various industries. Do you know what unites them all? Miserable profit, or its complete absence. Another question is that profits are often “drawn” in accounting in order not to disappoint banks (they will not lend to unprofitable companies).
          There are gentlemen of the aligarh, yes, but it works on the principle of “with the world on a thread - a poor shirt”, that is, several enterprises have arrived for the absolute well-being of one person.
          Quote: uskrabut
          but in the Central Federal District there should not be different salaries for the same positions.

          Let's just say they should not be lower than a certain level, but we'll talk about that later
          1. +1
            20 July 2018 20: 48
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            I say - you believe that our profits are too high

            But it is really overpriced, we have an entrepreneur, if the profit is less than 100%, usually even does not get up off the couch. As an example, milk: how much does 1 liter cost in a store somewhere in the south of Russia? The cheapest is about 35 rubles / liter, and for taste and fat content it is not even milk, but some kind of white liquid. But they buy milk from peasants and collective farms at (attention!) From 8 to 15 rubles per liter (with a production cost of about 5-8 rubles, not including federal and regional subsidies of 2 to 3 rubles / liter), with an average fat content of 5 % At the same time, the costs of processing, transportation, etc. somewhere in the region of 8-10 rubles, with a rate of return of at least 20%. Trade costs range from 5 to 10 rubles / liter, with a profit margin of about 30%. And it seems that the very same 35 rubles is obtained, but ... in the package, milk does not have 5% fat, but 1,5% ... And it is normalized with a freebie obtained after the production of butter.
            1. +1
              20 July 2018 21: 31
              Quote: Rakti-Kali
              But it is really overpriced, we have an entrepreneur, if the profit is less than 100%, usually even does not get up off the couch.

              So it was in the 90s, now this is not close.
              Quote: Rakti-Kali
              And it is normalized with a free way received after the production of oil.

              Forgive me, but such a thing as a "free return" in nature does not exist. The return is VERY non-free, and if you can’t get it from butter, sour cream or other fatty foods, you will have to purchase COM (skimmed milk powder) which (depending on the season) can be very expensive.
              The calculation there is very simple - by fat content. Standard 72,5% fat oil requires approximately 23 tons of raw milk with a fat content of 3,2 (and not all farms will demonstrate such fat content). With the purchase price announced by you of 8-15 rubles, we have the cost of only one raw material per kilogram of oil - 181-336 rubles, i.e. 37-68 rubles per 200 gram pack. Taking into account other expenses for the production / delivery of oil, taking into account the store wrapping, you can sell the oil without loss only if you can compensate for a part of the costs of its production by selling products made out of stock.
              Sorry, but I once worked in milk :)
              1. +1
                21 July 2018 09: 21
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                Standard 72,5% fat oil requires approximately 23 tons of raw milk with a fat content of 3,2 (and not all farms will demonstrate such fat content).

                For less fat milk and a lower purchase price.
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                Forgive me, but such a thing as a "free return" in nature does not exist. The inverse is VERY non-free, and if you cannot get it from oil, sour cream or other fatty products, you will have to purchase COM

                For the dairy, getting back, buttermilk and whey is not a problem, is it? After all, all this is obtained as a result of processing milk into cream, the production of butter, cottage cheese, cheeses.
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                With the purchase price announced by you of 8-15 rubles, we have the cost of only one raw material per kilogram of oil - 181-336 rubles, i.e. 37-68 rubles per 200 gram pack.

                At the same time, the price of oil on the market starts at 330 rubles / kg, despite the fact that creamy this product can only be called impenetrable oil, go ... uh ... an optimist, and the same Vologda in the store (a little better in quality than the weight on the market) for a 180 gram pack starts from 90 rubles.
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                Taking into account other expenses for the production / delivery of oil, taking into account store wrapping

                Here is the store-wrap law on maximum margin and should limit it. And often a manufacturer sells a product with a profit margin of 10%, and a trader resells it with a markup of 50 - 100%.
                1. 0
                  21 July 2018 19: 48
                  Quote: Rakti-Kali
                  For less fat milk and a lower purchase price.

                  Therefore, the cost of a kilogram of oil for raw materials will tend not to 181, but to 336 rubles per kilogram - excluding processing, etc.
                  Quote: Rakti-Kali
                  For the dairy, getting back, buttermilk and whey is not a problem, is it? After all, all this is obtained as a result of processing milk into cream, the production of butter, cottage cheese, cheeses.

                  So the picture is the same there :)))) In general, the production of high-fat products (that is, products whose fat content exceeds the fat content of the milk you buy) will be unprofitable if you do not use the reverse for the production of low-fat products, but, say, pour him down the drain
                  Quote: Rakti-Kali
                  At the same time, the price of oil on the market starts at 330 rubles / kg,

                  because the merchant buys it at 200 rubles, well, and how you need to dodge the manufacturer to get this - you know
  12. +4
    20 July 2018 11: 35
    Author! All these reflections are secondary.
    While the country is ruled by the bourgeoisie, led by Putin and EdRo, nothing will come of it ... They work only in their piggy bank and we can clearly see that the country is in full swing with their efforts.
    From 1914 to 1917 Russia, like today, was heading towards collapse, but then there was a real FORCE - Bolsheviksthat prevented her from disappearing. But today there is no such power ... NOT YET... Bye ... But she will appear soon! It should appear, for the people are tired of Putin and his henchmen who pass anti-people laws. It has always been this way in history.
    Putin and his supporters in the Duma and the government can only pass anti-people laws and do EVERYTHING DEPENDS ON THEM in order to finally bring the people to the boiling point, which again will be the 1917th ...
    Putin! I’m directly telling YOU when the new 1917th flares up in Russia, do not hope that the people will be for you! Our people hate the Gorbachev cohort! After all, you don’t have time to escape over the hill ...
    1. +3
      20 July 2018 14: 10
      All right, comrade. Let OUR Country go to the bottom. They want to create another, with bars and lackeys. All disagree in the furnace. The capitalist paradise is complete lawlessness and the obedience of the mob. The attack on the rights of citizens goes in all directions. The explosive mixture is raising the retirement age, without enough jobs and not some medicine, the ability to fire an employee, without any real reason (mistrust). To this, also introduce an article for parasitism and a ready-made slave for plowing plowing at the landlord by a court verdict. So in Britain they caught and sold into slavery to the Sacchar, the poor, the British by birth. This is pure genocide.
    2. +2
      20 July 2018 14: 28
      Quote: Brigadier
      Author! All these reflections are secondary.

      They remind us of what the government really needs to do.
      Quote: Brigadier
      While the country is ruled by the bourgeoisie, led by Putin and EdRo, nothing will come of it ...

      By itself
      1. +1
        21 July 2018 16: 36
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        By itself

        We need the right bourgeois, with a human face. laughing But we can’t build a strong economy, if we play according to the rules of capitalism, the only thing we can do is to lose. No matter how you play with the money supply.
        1. +1
          21 July 2018 17: 50
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          if we play according to the rules of capitalism, the only thing we can do is to lose.

          Generally speaking, you are right in many respects, but the fact is that even if, for example, tomorrow the CPSU returns to power, they will need to somehow normalize the situation. And I honestly tell you that attempts to, say, immediately ruin the existing market economy and return to the planned model of the USSR will lead to the same collapse as happened in the 90s. The economy does not tolerate "collapsible to the ground, and then." In addition, if you studied the history of the USSR, you should know how successful the short-term period of NEP was for it, and that at the end of the USSR came to the use of such, in general, close to market mechanisms as cost accounting
          1. +1
            21 July 2018 21: 21
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            Generally speaking, you are right in many respects, but the fact is that even if, for example, tomorrow the CPSU returns to power, they will need to somehow normalize the situation.

            I do not want a return to the CPSU. For in the late Communist Party of Communism one name remained.
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            And I honestly tell you that attempts to, say, immediately ruin the existing market economy and return to the planned model of the USSR will lead to the same collapse as happened in the 90s.

            Nobody says that everything must be destroyed right away. Only stupid anti-advisers rave about it.
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            In addition, if you studied the history of the USSR, you should know how successful the short-term period of NEP was for it.

            And how unsuccessful too.
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            and that at the end of the USSR came to the use of such, in general, close to market mechanisms as cost accounting

            Initially, contrary to Stalin’s desire, feudal socialism was built, we safely ruined it instead of reform, and now we are building capitalism. Peremoga. I wonder what's next. Judging by the trends further feudalism again, and there the slave system.
  13. +3
    20 July 2018 13: 27
    Given the existing economic system, personnel and methods of its management, a strong Russian economy cannot be seen.
  14. +1
    20 July 2018 13: 40
    how tired of these arguments about how we equip Russia! How to lure into the forum in Putin ??? here is the main question !!!!!
    1. +1
      20 July 2018 14: 29
      Quote: aybolyt678
      how tired of these arguments about how we equip Russia!

      Then what are you doing here? :)))
      Quote: aybolyt678
      How to lure into the forum in Putin ???

      What for?:)))
  15. +2
    20 July 2018 13: 57
    Gosplan + Ministry of Finance, under the vigilant control of the Emperor and local curators (for salaries and increased social package). The central bank is like an accumulator of funds, not an independent player. That's all that is needed "to equip the economy" And a clear understanding for the sake of what and whom it is equipped for. What are the ultimate goals. If the achievement of high labor productivity is carried out for the sake of obtaining super-profits of a handful of huckster-capitalists, the people from such an increase will be confused. Body wear - graveyard. The public pie, surplus value, should be distributed among all members of society, and the state should carefully monitor so that all able-bodied people make efforts to create this "pie".
    1. +1
      20 July 2018 14: 31
      Quote: Essex62
      That's all it takes "to equip the economy"

      Yes you?:)))
      Quote: Essex62
      Gosplan + Ministry of Finance, under the vigilant control of the Emperor and local curators (for salaries and increased social package).

      I'll look at your gosplan at the current jumping ruble exchange rate :)))))
      1. +2
        20 July 2018 15: 03
        And there will be no course, internal. Foreign exchange operations are prohibited to citizens, up to the death penalty. You are constantly trying to create the conditions for a modernized consumer society, with the domination of one class. It is necessary to clean bourgeois morality from Russia. Yes, at the first stage it will not be very comfortable living, but for everyone, regardless of rank and position. You have to win together. So it was already, they won, broke into space, destroyed devastation on their own, without Masonic help.
        1. +1
          20 July 2018 15: 12
          Quote: Essex62
          And there will be no course, internal. Foreign exchange operations are prohibited to citizens, up to the death penalty.

          Do you also prohibit enterprises from carrying out foreign exchange operations? :))) Well ... congratulations, you just killed the country's economy. Immediately and tightly.
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  16. +4
    20 July 2018 17: 36
    Dear Andrey, you have missed the main thing - Russian enterprises must produce products demanded by the country's population and the people of other countries. Here you have a lady commenting on the Vice Premiere of the country. He claims that before the Ministry only mastered the budget. This is a lie. All defense enterprises, including your favorite Polet software in Chelyabinsk, were obliged to produce consumer goods in terms of volume, which ensured the entire salary of the software team. And the profit from the State Defense Order went to the development of the enterprise. In Flight software, electrophones and tape recorders jumped off the assembly line in 45 seconds. Here's what to do. And in our country more than 1500 industrial enterprises, including defense ones, have closed.
    1. 0
      20 July 2018 17: 44
      Quote: midshipman
      Dear Andrei, you have missed the main thing - Russian enterprises must produce products demanded by the country's population and the people of other countries

      I didn’t miss it at all - this should be at least out of the need to ensure a positive foreign trade balance :))). Moreover, I have the stated goal of all these transformations - the competitiveness of our products with imported products and a strong economy.
      1. 0
        20 July 2018 18: 00
        In the current Russian "Byzantium" this is not reliable.
    2. +1
      21 July 2018 01: 17
      These 1500 enterprises were closed, because the volume of purchases fell, and their products did not become competitive.
      1. +1
        21 July 2018 16: 39
        Quote: Vadim237
        These 1500 enterprises were closed, because the volume of purchases fell, and their products did not become competitive.

        And someone else’s hands were not straight enough, but of course everyone and everything except this was to blame.
        1. 0
          21 July 2018 17: 02
          The workers of these enterprises had raking hands, it was necessary to live somehow, so the guys pulled the factories.
          1. +1
            21 July 2018 17: 05
            Quote: Vadim237
            The workers of these enterprises had raking hands, it was necessary to live somehow, so the guys pulled the factories.

            So whoever stole all these enterprises, the perpetrators were found. It turns out to be the workers of these enterprises. You yourself are not funny?
            1. +1
              22 July 2018 20: 06
              It’s not funny, at the Stankoagregat plant, their own turners, milling machines, dismantled the machines, pulled out equipment, loaded everything into trucks and handed it over to the metal. At the cable, ball-bearing factories in the Volgograd region, they also turned - the plants got up, no orders or money, they dragged everything that could be handed over or sold.
  17. +1
    20 July 2018 20: 49
    A strong economy depends on domestic consumption! The US has a strong economy!
  18. +2
    20 July 2018 22: 42
    Enchanting set of misconceptions .... The author completely ignores such a factor of inflation as the devaluation of the ruble, and maybe does not know what it is. The author does not know that in our country the issue of the ruble is tied to the volume of gold reserves and the credit issue will immediately lead to the devaluation of the ruble; therefore, our loan rates are at the level of the “gold standard capitalism”. Emissions in the USA and the EU are completely credit, there is no factor of currency devaluation relative to collateral in principle, and foreign trade for dollars and euros allows exporting inflation to other markets.
    And if the author does not know all this, or deliberately ignores it, the whole article turns into a meaningless set of words. Sadly ...
    1. +2
      20 July 2018 23: 05
      Quote: People's Commissar of the NKVD
      The author completely ignores such a factor of inflation as the devaluation of the ruble, and maybe does not know what it is.

      The author not only knows what it is, but also knows the mechanisms that cause devaluation (unlike you, by the way) and offers a method that does not cause devaluation
      Quote: People's Commissar of the NKVD
      The author does not know that in our country the issue of the ruble is tied to the volume of gold reserves and the credit issue will immediately lead to the devaluation of the ruble

      You do not know that the issue of the ruble and gold reserves are two big differences that have no relation to each other. By the way, what you have just stated is fundamentally contrary to the principles of monetarism, that is, the official theory of money management used by the government
      Judging by your phrase
      Quote: People's Commissar of the NKVD
      currency devaluation in relation to collateral is not in principle

      You still do not know that in Europe there are no mechanisms for providing cash for gold reserves and that the amount of money there is tied to the products being produced, and not to gold reserves
      Quote: People's Commissar of the NKVD
      And if the author does not know all this

      Alas, you have now given such a set of misconceptions ... In general, I understand that it is not everyone to ask knowledge of economic theory, but it is strange to me that you, knowing nothing about the economy, undertake only to categorically judge the article and the author
      1. +1
        20 July 2018 23: 47
        Well, do not be so emotional ... Emotions prevent you from understanding the meaning of what is written. Well, I wrote - in Europe there is no devaluation, in view of the lack of security, which means - there is no gold reserves. As for the two big differences about gold reserves and emissions, when the Central Bank buys currency in gold reserves, what does it do? It generates the ruble secured by gold reserves and when the number of rubles in the economy increases due to credit emissions, the ruble devalues ​​against gold reserves, and since all companies with foreign participation repatriate profits in foreign currency, this leads to inflation, that is, the ruble depreciates relatively goods and services.
        And by the way, in a market economy, solvent demand is the highest value, without it, any economic activity loses its meaning and suppress demand in order to reduce inflation ... without comment.
        As for "economic theory" - this is a false phrase, it would be more correct to "economic project", which is developed by certain circles to solve their problems, and presented to others as a kind of "objective reality", although it is not.
        As for the knowledge of economics, my practical entrepreneurial activity began in 1989, back in the Soviet Union and with most of your misconceptions, I had been ill for a long time and I remember the crisis of defaults of the early 90s and crisis 98, and crisis 08 and many other things that apply to practice, and not to "theories."
        1. +1
          21 July 2018 00: 33
          Quote: People's Commissar of the NKVD
          As for the two big differences about gold reserves and emissions, when the Central Bank buys currency in gold reserves, what does it do?

          He exchanges part of the ruble mass available to him (and by no means issued) to the currency of those who want to sell that currency :)))
          Quote: People's Commissar of the NKVD
          It generates the ruble secured by gold reserves and when the number of rubles in the economy increases due to credit emissions, the ruble devalues ​​against gold reserves, and since all companies with foreign participation repatriate profits in foreign currency, this leads to inflation, that is, the ruble depreciates relatively goods and services.

          Oh mine gott laughing First, we do not have collateral for the gold reserves of the gold reserves, secondly, the Central Bank does not buy currency at all with emitted money (more precisely, it is not necessary), and thirdly, repatriation of profits in foreign currency cannot, in principle, cause inflation since it is completely unrelated to the volume of the ruble mass, nor with the volume of production in the country, the fourth - the ratio of the ruble mass to gold reserves can not be considered a devaluation, and in addition, even if it is called so, neither devaluation nor revaluation relative to gold reserves does not affect inflation, this figure can be calculated, but practical it does not matter and does not affect anything, just as the ratio of my height to the height of the Jomolungma does not affect anything.
          Quote: People's Commissar of the NKVD
          And by the way, in a market economy, solvent demand is the highest value, without it, any economic activity loses its meaning and suppress demand in order to reduce inflation ... without comment.

          What are you talking about now? :))))) Did I suppress demand somewhere? :)))))
          Quote: People's Commissar of the NKVD
          As for the knowledge of economics, my practical entrepreneurial activity began

          Let's not be measured by peeps :))) I suspect that mine, as a person with an economic education and. being a financial director who has pulled out a couple of city-forming enterprises from the crisis may be a little longer
          1. +1
            21 July 2018 02: 25
            So yes, you proved that parallel universes exist laughing
            And I have another question, are you definitely the author of the article? One gets the impression that you yourself have not read your article.
            You can regard this as nit-picking, but there are no Russian rubles not issued by the Central Bank in nature, and rubles that are on the accounts of the Central Bank de facto do not exist for the economy.
            In your article, you yourself propose making the exchange rate fixed, and how you are going to achieve this, especially with gold reserves, the existence of which, by your logic, is not connected with anything, does not affect anything, etc.
            Can you read a story about capitalism of the "gold standard", two world wars, the Bretton Woods, and then the Jamaican currency systems?
            In any case, it will become clearer why there is no gold and foreign currency reserves in the US and the EU, and we have and what role foreign trade for the national currency plays, otherwise your reasoning on this subject is .... ridiculous.
            1. +2
              21 July 2018 12: 52
              Quote: People's Commissar of the NKVD
              Can you read a story about capitalism of the "gold standard", two world wars, the Bretton Woods, and then the Jamaican currency systems?

              Obviously, I know this better than you :)
              Quote: People's Commissar of the NKVD
              You can regard this as nit-picking, but there are no Russian rubles not issued by the Central Bank in nature

              This is not nitpicking, but an excuse.
  19. 0
    21 July 2018 11: 28
    God, how many abstruse ideas !!! ?? Everything is just until key posts are supposedly put by supposedly “trusted” people and the downward movement will continue, otherwise, such as Khoroshavin, feeling their best of your kind, will continue to destroy the country, scolding Sovdepia for modern idiots, but at that time everything that created the Council of Deputies was it’s important, but what is the now abandoned village of the Urals, the only Lena highway, people don’t live in villages anymore and live like dogs in cities, unless of course they were former corrupt cops with good pensions, in general, something should be done for people. And not for all kinds of diasporas.
  20. 0
    21 July 2018 17: 19
    The recipe is as simple as a laundry soap - to refuse to levy social and pension taxes, the freed money for salaries and, yes, the economy began to move.
  21. +1
    21 July 2018 20: 36
    I am surprised at a complete misunderstanding of the real state of affairs in the economy. 1. All processes depend on people. And people work and create prosperity for the country if: a. Believe in the future, b. believe in social justice, g. do not succumb to monetary illusion.
    What does it mean? For example, we are told that inflation has declined in the country to an unprecedented level. But at the same time they forget to say that even according to official data, prices have risen in comparison with 2014, when they began to target inflation, they increased one and a half times, so the current ruble is just 60-70 kopecks in 2013. If you continue to fight inflation like this, then soon in stores, prices will begin to decline, and stores will close as unnecessary.
    Further, the lack of understanding of the real mechanism of the issue (issue) of money is surprising. After all, current money is simply a bank obligation, legalized by the state. Therefore, it must be understood that banks do not give out money to those who wish and lend it. Therefore, they can appear only by developing affordable credit in the country. And this is possible only through the fight against usury that is flourishing in our country. No wonder people have fought for centuries with this evil, which we have been encouraged by the Central Bank.
    The second source of the appearance of money in the country is the sale of foreign currency, which appears due to export. But do not be suckers. When exporting, we give real values ​​for the same banking obligations - only foreign banks under the guarantee of their governments. In practice, this means that we are lending to foreigners, not just pieces of paper, but real values.
    Finally, the latest example of a monetary illusion is the pension reform project. A promise of a pension of 20000 rubles in six years is worth nothing if over the years they fight inflation by raising taxes and legitimizing price increases in line with inflation.
    1. 0
      22 July 2018 01: 10
      Quote: Thomas the Unbeliever
      I am surprised at a complete misunderstanding of the real state of affairs in the economy.

      I read, I will not even discuss. If you, not knowing the basics, allow yourself such statements ... request
  22. 0
    21 July 2018 20: 47
    According to the GDP of our country, 5 retirees account for 6 workers. That is, it follows that such a bias places a heavy burden on the country's budget. So you need to raise the birth rate. 1) comprehensive support for large families, such as a tax on childlessness, a salary for mothers with many children, pension palaces to be converted into hotels, rent, and profits for large families. 2) prohibition of abortion. 3) prohibition.
    All these measures in 30 years will lead Russia to first place in all respects, including economic ones.
    1. +1
      22 July 2018 00: 22
      Quote: Nikolai R
      3) dry law.

      Prohibition has already passed, they began to eat shoe polish with dichlorvos (mortality increased significantly), plus a deduction from the budget from the sale of vodka stop
      1. 0
        22 July 2018 14: 39
        Whoever wants, let him eat anything. But in the years of Prohibition, the birth rate increased significantly. Statistics is a stubborn thing.
    2. 0
      22 July 2018 01: 09
      Quote: Nikolai R
      According to the GDP of our country, 5 retirees account for 6 workers.

      And taking into account the fact that out of these 6 employees, 4 are working pensioners laughing
    3. 0
      22 July 2018 20: 16
      "All these measures in 30 years will lead Russia to the first place in all respects, including economic ones." - This is what, in terms of electronic components, we will never surpass Taiwan, like the United States in the production of cars and aircraft, there is a good chance agriculture, metallurgy, chemical industry, nuclear energy, engine building - including rocket, in machine tools, including 3D, but this is already in cooperation with foreign manufacturers of machine tools, drilling equipment and construction equipment.
  23. 0
    22 July 2018 08: 29
    Lord, how does topwar place this?

    In general, our key task in foreign trade is not to abandon it at all, but to ensure the development of our economy in which we sell more goods to foreigners than buy from them.


    What is this nonsense?
    Our balance has been strictly positive since 1991. This incidentally is the tax on Russia by the Anglo-Saxons. If you supply them even more, they will only rejoice more stupid Russians

    1. 0
      22 July 2018 10: 29
      Quote: Sergey Brekotin
      Our balance since 1991 is strictly positive

      What the author wrote about earlier, and this should remain so in the future.
      Quote: Sergey Brekotin
      This incidentally is the tax on Russia by the Anglo-Saxons

      laughing fool That is, what they buy from us more than we from them is a tax? M-dya, one more "luminary" from economy was drawn
      1. 0
        22 July 2018 11: 43
        Let you give part of your income to me, and I will give you receipts.
        The receipts have the course I want. And I will repay the debt whenever. Of your choice. Do you agree?
        And if you do not agree, then do not be stupid
        1. 0
          22 July 2018 20: 08
          Russia does not trade for receipts.
          1. 0
            23 July 2018 00: 24
            Are you sure? Then explain why, with colossal trade surpluses, we accumulate debts?
            1. 0
              23 July 2018 18: 41
              Debts - where do they accumulate?
        2. 0
          22 July 2018 23: 17
          Quote: Sergey Brekotin
          Let you give part of your income to me, and I will give you receipts.
          The receipts have the course I want. And I will repay the debt whenever. Of your choice. Do you agree?

          What kind of nonsense is this? :))))) Everything happens exactly the opposite - it’s me, selling the goods “for receipts” (and partially buying the goods I need for them) I put off part of the “receipts” and set the course for them as I see fit :))) Or, in your opinion, determine the exchange rate of the ruble against the dollar and euro in the United States? laughing
          Quote: Sergey Brekotin
          And if you do not agree, then do not be stupid

          Sergey, of course, I’m sometimes mistaken (like any person) and sometimes I can say some kind of stupidity, but with your two comments you have chosen my limit for 2 years ahead
          1. 0
            23 July 2018 00: 29
            I postpone the “receipts” and set the course for them as I see fit :)))

            Have you ever seen Russia's external debt? What does Russia put off with us? Storyteller.
            another "luminaries" from the economy drew

            https://aftershock.news/?q=user/18326
            1. 0
              23 July 2018 06: 57
              Quote: Sergey Brekotin
              Have you ever seen Russia's external debt?

              fool First, find out for yourself the difference between the foreign trade balance and the external debt, "luminaries"
              1. 0
                23 July 2018 09: 30
                First, find out for yourself the difference between the foreign trade balance and the external debt, "luminaries"

                That is, they are not connected in your opinion? That is, the negative / positive trade balance for 27 years does not affect external debt?
                Please explain to me, where did the money go from the positive trade balance? if we them

                I postpone part of the "receipts" and set the course for them as I see fit :)))


                to you in a hint

                Words I.V. Stalin, he said back in 1927 year:
                “Indeed, what could the destruction of the monopoly of foreign trade mean for workers? This would mean for them the rejection of the industrialization of the country, the construction of new factories and factories, and the expansion of old factories. This would mean for them a flood of the USSR with goods from capitalist countries, the collapse of our industry due to its relative weakness, the increase in the number of unemployed, the worsening of the material situation of the working class, and the weakening of its economic and political positions. ”


                and the second hint: in which year did the monopoly on foreign trade be canceled and connected to SWIFT?

                1. 0
                  23 July 2018 12: 04
                  Quote: Sergey Brekotin
                  That is, they are not connected in your opinion? That is, the negative / positive trade balance for 27 years does not affect external debt?

                  Bingo! Guessed it! :)))
                  Quote: Sergey Brekotin
                  Please explain to me, where did the money go from the positive trade balance?

                  Partially they are in gold reserves (gold and currency reserves), partly in various funds (which, alas, we often also hold foreign bonds), partly in offshore accounts of oligarchs, and partly in the pockets of financial speculators (when we sold currency for correction of the ruble exchange rate).
                  Quote: Sergey Brekotin
                  Words I.V. Stalin, he said back in 1927 year:

                  Do you write this to a person who offers to return the monopoly on foreign exchange earnings to the state? Seriously?
                  1. 0
                    24 July 2018 05: 53
                    Bingo! Guessed it! :))

                    even indirectly, well, nothing at all? :)))))) Under the table ...
                    ...
                    two of your statements ...
                    Partially they are in gold reserves (gold and currency reserves), partly in various funds (which, alas, we often also hold foreign bonds), partly in offshore accounts of oligarchs, and partly in the pockets of financial speculators (when we sold currency for correction of the ruble exchange rate).

                    и
                    receipts "I postpone and set a course on them according to my own understanding :)))

                    do not find a contradiction? :)
                    or talking about the country do you mean the offshore oligarchs?

                    That is, the first time niasilil :)))))) M-d ...

                    sure. I have a limit on reading nonsense per day.
                    Sergey, I can’t even imagine

                    strange, judging by the article you have a rich fascination
              2. +1
                23 July 2018 12: 06
                Lord, I read this article further and generally crap. How does VO print such slag?

                The rate of 1-1.5% .... Is that - in your favor or what? And how to invest with such a rate? How do funds invest somewhere? Please note that in Western countries low rates do not lead to the development of industry (!!! surprise), and pension funds stably have a hole in the budget.

                A low central bank rate means that there is nowhere to invest in the country.

                By the way, the author tried to come up with a second outline of money, which at one time was realized in the USSR. By the way, when this money poured into the economy through cooperatives, then hyperinflation happened.
                The issue of industry and the second contour of money is much easier to solve: public administration in key sectors. Then everyone has orders. In general, it is with the military-industrial complex now, which helped him to shoot.

                Then even comment on breaking. Although there may be a review I will do on VO in order to neighing what nonsense they print ...
                1. 0
                  23 July 2018 14: 05
                  Quote: Sergey Brekotin
                  Lord, I read this article further

                  laughing good That is, the first time niasilil :)))))) M-d ...
                  Quote: Sergey Brekotin
                  A low central bank rate means that there is nowhere to invest in the country.

                  Sergei, I can’t even imagine how one could think of such enchanting nonsense. My advice to you is to start reading books. First, something simpler - "Kolobok" there, or "Ryaba Chicken". Then try to overpower "Economics" by Bru and McConnell, and something from the Soviet, for example - "Political Economy" 1954 (to imagine how the socialists and capitalists saw the economic theory and what is the difference between them). Well, then you can already try to criticize my articles
  24. 0
    22 July 2018 22: 09
    Quote: Alber
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    How do we build a strong Russian economy? with Siluanov and a hedgehog with him? no answer ....

    The nationalization of plundered property and the restoration of the industry ...

    Yes good hi
    1. +1
      22 July 2018 23: 20
      Quote: Radikal
      Nationalization of stolen property

      And will someone at the level of Sapkhizadovna or Rogozin manage the nationalized industry? Or, even worse, the average functionary of the party United Russia? Brrrrr
  25. 0
    22 July 2018 23: 59
    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
    Quote: Radikal
    Nationalization of stolen property

    And will someone at the level of Sapkhizadovna or Rogozin manage the nationalized industry? Or, even worse, the average functionary of the party United Russia? Brrrrr

    Firstly, just in case, the quote is not mine, and secondly, why is it so simplistic, or even primitive - completely different people, statesmen, should carry out nationalization. Another question is where to get them ... sad
  26. 0
    23 July 2018 05: 46
    Brad.

    If you do not build a profit control system, then you can forget about the conversation about development.

    the author ...


    In general, they try to find us again
    1. +2
      23 July 2018 06: 56
      Quote: gladcu2
      If you do not build a profit control system

      In order to control her, it would be nice to earn her first
  27. +3
    23 July 2018 12: 44
    Andrey, good day! hi Let me criticize a little ...
    1) In the scheme, one weak spot is the Central Bank’s liabilities with emissions of 1 million Central Banks, like any economic entity (in this case, it is not a regulator, but an economic entity, as it interacts with other entities), cannot take assets from the air , he must provide them with liabilities. Usually it is either bonds, or the purchase and reservation of monetary gold. What is planned to provide such emission in this case? In any case, this will lie on the economy of the state, and therefore, this tool has reasonable limitations.
    2) Where is the guarantee that the indicated money will not be spent on covering fictitious debts (you should understand that half of the overdue debts of large companies are settlements between their own legal entities that are not secured by real economic activity), and subsequently - to withdraw abroad ?
    3) There is a danger of causing dependency / abuse by affiliated organizations, that is, this money will go to "who needs it," and not to anyone who really needs it. With the goal, again, cut-rollback. Especially with this model, when the Central Bank takes money "from the air", without providing liabilities.
    4) It seems to me that an overdue receivable that generates an overdue creditor (here I completely agree) is a deeper problem than just accounting. The final consumer always buys "in cash", you can’t buy it in the supermarket on a delay, either you pay yourself, or you pay the bank, and you already owe the bank. Accordingly, the reason for the delay is not the physical lack of money, but the withdrawal of money by those who work "on the front lines" with individuals. They do not pay the withdrawal amount to the supplier, with whom, as a rule, they act from a position of strength, as a result of which the dominance of networks in the retail market has led. The supplier often does not aggravate the conflict and waits for the return of the receivables as much as the network requires, in turn, without paying the debts to its suppliers. The problem needs to be addressed with networks at the FAS level. True, this approach can create a shortage in stores if the networks will take as much as they can pay, and this is 10 times less than there is now.
    1. 0
      23 July 2018 13: 56
      Greetings, Sergey Vladimirovich!
      Quote: YarSer88
      What is planned to provide such emission in this case?

      Nothing, because our "beloved" monetarism suggests (and absolutely correctly) that the only security that the money supply needs is the volume of goods and services produced (GDP). Money should ensure normal commodity exchange of the state, and that’s all, so that they do not need any other support. Well, from the point of view of GDP, money is now oversupplied to us, since there are very few of them for the volume of goods.
      Quote: YarSer88
      Where is the guarantee that the indicated money will not be spent on covering fictitious debts (you should understand that half of the overdue debts of large companies are settlements between their own legal entities that are not secured by real economic activity), and subsequently - to withdraw abroad?

      Yes, but they, these debts, as a rule, are looped inside holdings (company A must B, B must C, and C must A) and this is done to ensure the free transfer of funds from company to company
      But I suggest not all debts to be repaid - a loan can only be issued for the difference between the overdue DZ and KZ and in case of such equality it will not be issued :)))
      Another situation is possible (as I had, for example) - I have a lot of debts at the enterprise for suppliers and contractors, but almost all the enterprises of the holding owe me. In this case, the loan is quite realistic - enterprises take it, give it to me, I am repaying the real debt.
      Withdrawal of money is complicated by bank checks (and they are very good at digging up holdings today, and usually have comprehensive information on this account), through restrictions on the use of these funds (money can be spent primarily on paying off overdue debts, and only if they are absent - everything else, while this control can and should be organized not only at the enterprise - the recipient of the loan, but also its counterparties and their counterparties (something similar is now being done in the State Defense order, I do not call for acting with system of special accounts, this can be technically easier.) And, of course, as I said, this mechanism should be launched later than the first stage (fixing the ruble against the chosen currency) so that at the time of its launch the state should have a monopoly on foreign exchange earnings, and that too a good barrier to withdrawing money abroad.
      Quote: YarSer88
      It seems to me that an overdue receivable that generates an overdue creditor (here I completely agree) is a deeper problem than just an accounting one.

      Without any doubt
      Quote: YarSer88
      The end consumer always buys "in cash", you can’t buy it in the supermarket on a delay, either you pay yourself, or you pay the bank, and you already owe the bank. Accordingly, the reason for the delay is not the physical lack of money, but the withdrawal of money by those who work "on the front lines" with individuals.

      This is not entirely true :))))) In order to sell something, it is necessary to produce something, deliver it to the supermarket, put out a large assortment, and only after that (and then not immediately) will the buyer come with money. That is, a certain lending will be in any case
      Quote: YarSer88
      The problem needs to be addressed with networks at the FAS level.

      And I’m talking about this - the terms of payment under contracts of all kinds should be artificially limited, and the penalty for their delay is harsh (in the future - as a delay in the salary). Perhaps some other measures. That is, all this will work only if there is a big club that forces the business to pay its debts on time :)
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        23 July 2018 14: 42
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        Nothing, because our "beloved" monetarism suggests (and absolutely correctly) that the only security that the money supply needs is the volume of goods and services produced (GDP).

        This only works in a closed economy, where the national currency is used for internal settlements. In an open economy, the amount of money taken "out of thin air" is quickly withdrawn. This is additional money that arise without obligation. Commitment is not just a balance sheet, it is a system of checks and balances. If you withdraw money printed for the purchase of gold or bonds, there will be an obligation on these bonds themselves, and it will be dangerous to simply take and withdraw them, unlike money simply printed and thrown into the economy. It will lead either to a jump in inflation (if the business will withdraw money), or to a jump in the rate, if the structures of the Central Bank. But money will not remain in the economy - this is a fact. They themselves are not needed by the economy, they have come out of thin air, the economy is already working without them. I am for a limited issue - the release of money for a “run” in the financial cycle with subsequent withdrawal. This will help reduce the credit burden on firms. As a rule, due to the excess of accounts receivable and commodity investments, large companies are inflated by WACC due to excessive credit load. If at least this load is reduced, a "room for maneuver" will already appear.

        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        But I suggest not all debts to be repaid - a loan can only be issued for the difference between the overdue DZ and KZ and in case of such equality it will not be issued :)))

        The difference between DZ and KZ - which way? If positive (DZ more), then this tool is already there - factoring. If it’s negative (there is more short circuit), then, excuse me, this is a loss as it is, this is support for a bankrupt, and not a scrolling of the financial cycle that has become self-contained. I think the loan should be issued in the amount of the accounts receivable from primary production companies. This, in fact, is the very money that went “into the second round” of debts. The remaining debts are provided with an oversupply of assortment, respectively, these are regulated debts, but the plant’s lost receivables are precisely these “abuses,” since the buyer must ensure that he can pay the supplier at his own expense, and not at the expense of the supplier. Moreover, excessively received funds should be withdrawn from the plant itself, or their further spending should be regulated (for example, only to expand production) so that there is no temptation to quickly withdraw all honestly earned money. If this norm does not exist, the plant will have an excess of liquidity, which will pump up just the same solvent demand, and even the foreign exchange rate (which is more likely). In general, if you create a kind of spherical stone in a vacuum, the money should be issued for the purchase of means of production, and then issued in the form of an interest-free loan to retail outlets, the purpose of which is to pay off overdue debts. Track the movement of this amount up to the manufacturer, who will be required to buy the money at the face value of the means of production from the same Central Bank. Again, this is a spherocogon in a vacuum, suppose the money can be traced, that is, the withdrawal from the country is zero, the Central Bank does not abuse the procurement and sale of means of production, the means of production are universal, since the structure of overdue debts is not very transparent, and is not entirely clear, which industry will leave the money as a result. In general, a lot of BUT. But such a model will work best in this situation.

        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        Another situation is possible (as I had, for example) - I have a lot of debts at the enterprise for suppliers and contractors, but almost all the enterprises of the holding owe me. In this case, the loan is quite realistic - enterprises take it, give it to me, I am repaying the real debt.

        This situation is a consequence of the structure of the movement of assets in the holding structure; it is present in almost any holding. What allows instead of repaying the lender to withdraw money from the final office in the chain of transfer of money. With excessive pressure on her for an overdue creditor and spent target loan, she simply withdraws from the holding structure and goes bankrupt, while a new office is opened in her holding to replace her.
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        This is not entirely true :))))) In order to sell something, it is necessary to produce something, deliver it to the supermarket, put out a large assortment, and only after that (and then not immediately) will the buyer come with money. That is, a certain lending will be in any case

        You confuse balance and the movement of money. They, for the purchase of goods for assortment, either take a loan or issue shares / prefs / bonds. That is, an adequate amount of liabilities is created for the purchase of assets. But the movement of money is already lame, instead of completing the financial cycle, the sales organizations take a new loan - a commodity one, from the supplier - and the revenue is withdrawn, it turns out that they get 3-4 rubles of turnover from one really invested ruble, while withdrawing the released liquidity to offshore. They have a level of liquidity that is exactly enough to plug holes; they do not seek to equalize indicators. This is characterized by excess lender balanced only by the goods in circulation. If they are given money to eliminate the delay, they still liquidate it, after which they will pick up 2 times more of the already high-quality, past-due lender, while taking the proceeds offshore as they become available. The creditor will be repaid as before under the threat of a court. In the end, where did the loan go? He was given a “hold” to the supplier, after which he was withdrawn back to the retailer (in the form of a new volume of goods), after which the retailer would withdraw it as the proceeds from the add. the volume of goods sold, increasing the volume of payables.
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          23 July 2018 15: 05
          Quote: YarSer88
          This only works in a closed economy, where the national currency is used for internal settlements.

          Ours is just that, because we hardly use rubles for interstate settlements.
          Quote: YarSer88
          Commitment is not just a balance sheet, it is a system of checks and balances.

          Which none of the developed countries use today.
          Quote: YarSer88
          If you withdraw money printed for the purchase of gold or bonds, an obligation appears on these bonds, and it will be dangerous to simply take and withdraw

          These are absolutely and in no way interconnected things - the presence of gold reserves does not help and does not prevent the withdrawal of money
          Quote: YarSer88
          I am for a limited issue - the release of money for a “run” in the financial cycle with subsequent withdrawal.

          This will help almost nothing, because money will not be enough in the future.
          Quote: YarSer88
          The difference between DZ and KZ - which way? If it is positive (DZ is greater), then this tool already exists - factoring. If it’s negative (there is more short circuit), then, I'm sorry, this is a loss as it is, it’s already support for a bankrupt, and not a scrolling of the financial cycle that has closed itself

          The difference is DZ minus KZ, and not all, but expired. And this is not bankrupt support even if the entire short-term and short-term securities are overdue, because the "extra" short-term is closed by other balance assets. In the worst case, such a short-circuit can (after analysis of the balance sheet) be interpreted as losses of past years, but this does not mean that the enterprise is bankrupt
          And, finally, by driving money this way (even if the company is bankrupt) you are pulling its suppliers out of the pre-bankrupt state, which in itself is not bad.
          Quote: YarSer88
          What allows instead of repaying the lender to withdraw money from the final office in the chain of transfer of money. With excessive pressure on her for an overdue creditor and spent target loan, she simply withdraws from the holding structure and goes bankrupt, while a new office is opened in her holding to replace her.

          After that, the holding says goodbye to the banking sector forever, because if it’s even not a member of the holding, but an affiliated structure (for example, belonging to one owner or its relatives) will fail the loan, and the holding will not pay for it, it will automatically be blacklisted and no more loans from anyone will receive.
          Quote: YarSer88
          You confuse balance and the movement of money. They take either a loan or purchase shares / prefs / bonds for the purchase of goods for an assortment

          They don’t take anything. They take goods with a funky deferred payment on enslaving conditions for the manufacturer - and all. And they also take money from the manufacturer to ensure that the goods are presented in a chain of hypermarkets.
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            23 July 2018 16: 21
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            They don’t take anything. They take goods with a funky deferred payment on enslaving conditions for the manufacturer - and all. And they also take money from the manufacturer to ensure that the goods are presented in a chain of hypermarkets.

            This is when the network is already untwisted, and in the beginning they take huge loans for the purchase and sale of zero to increase momentum. Without high revs, the supplier will not give a deferral or commission fee. Here, first you spend on the brand, then the brand works for you. But first you have to spend a lot of money.
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

            This will help almost nothing, because money will not be enough in the future.

            This will help reduce your loan burden. The WACC will decrease, which will pull down the cost price and give an opportunity to reduce prices in a falling market. In fact, we have not only the problem of a stalled financial cycle, but also a decline in the market due to a decrease in the purchasing power of the population. People cannot buy as much as before -> companies cannot sell the purchased goods -> the supplier (manufacturer) does not receive money for the shipped goods -> another loan is taken to pay off urgent obligations -> the cost price and prices grow -> people can buy more less and so on in a circle. The circular money run option will help to get away from debt burden, which is economically unjustified. For example, a manufacturer, instead of withdrawing money through paying off interest on a loan, will be able to arrange a promo at the expense of a margin, which will spur retail sales. And provided that the delay in receivables will be severely punished, retail will be even more active in transferring money to the manufacturer. Now this is impossible both due to the lack of money from the manufacturer for the promo, and because the promo does not guarantee an inflow of money, but only an increase in shipments (which can also go to accounts receivable).
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            The difference is DZ minus KZ, and not all, but expired. And this is not bankrupt support even if the entire short-term and short-term securities are overdue, because the "extra" short-term is closed by other balance assets. In the worst case, such a short-circuit can (after analysis of the balance sheet) be interpreted as losses of past years, but this does not mean that the enterprise is bankrupt

            Here, let's honestly admit, “other balance sheet assets” are either the short-term receivables that we have already discussed, or goods in stock, or raw materials. The remaining articles in no way should be a counterweight to a short-term creditor, otherwise this is not serious. In any case, it is obvious that the company is not very strong in the market. The question is, why should such a company be credited in a crisis? She will come up with support, yes, but why? The crisis just allows to remove inefficient players from the market. Of course, you can object that not only effective companies, but also those that enjoy the support of authorities at all levels have a strong market position. However, such companies have no problems with liquidity, they are pumped through government orders.
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            After that, the holding says goodbye to the banking sector forever, because if it’s even not a member of the holding, but an affiliated structure (for example, belonging to one owner or its relatives) will fail the loan, and the holding will not pay for it, it will automatically be blacklisted and no more loans from anyone will receive.

            here he wrote nonsense, I agree, the banks know the whole structure of the holding, they can’t be fooled like that.
  28. 0
    25 July 2018 17: 48
    “We should achieve a stable ruble exchange rate relative to world currencies through a fixed ruble exchange rate to the chosen currency.” - some nonsense.
    You can not read further.
  29. 0
    15 August 2018 01: 36
    I would like to know when there will be the 5th, last, part.

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