Lipetsk goes to 5-generation: soon get the first Su-57

The head of the Lipetsk Aviation Center, Lieutenant-General Yuri Sushkov today shared with journalists information about the renewal of the aviation fleet. According to the general, in the near future, the Lipetsk aviation center will receive the 5 generation fighter Su-57.

It is noted that the pilots of Lipetsk will be the first to master piloting of this type of fighters after test pilots from the 929 GLITS of the Chkalov Defense Ministry. The State Flight Test Center is located in Akhtubinsk.

Yuri Sushkov:

Akhtubinsk is a research test center that will definitely check this aircraft, its combat survivability, and then it will be recommended in the air force unit. We will get it after them.

Zamgolkoma VKS RF (Commander of the Air Force of Russia), Lieutenant-General Yudin called the Lipetsk pilots the best pilots of Russia performing combat missions set by the Russian Defense Ministry, including in Syria.

Su-57, which will be delivered to Lipetsk, is equipped with engines of the so-called first stage. At the same time, tests of the newest fighters with engines of the second stage have already begun.

Meanwhile, it became known that within the framework of the re-equipment program, the Besovets airfield in the Republic of Karelia received another batch of the newest fighter jets of the 4 ++ generation Su-35С. We are talking about the five newest aircraft for the 159 th Fighter Regiment. According to some reports, the aircraft made a flight from Komsomolsk-on-Amur with several intermediate landings - at military airfields of the Novosibirsk Region and the Perm Territory. Officially, the information about these intermediate landing regions with refueling is currently not confirmed. In total, the Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aircraft Manufacturing Company (KnAAZ) is due to hand over 10 Su-35С to the end of the year.

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[Alexander Romanov]

. According to some reports, the aircraft made a flight from Komsomolsk-on-Amur
On Thursday evening, one by one flew up with Dzemog, probably they were

[not main]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

. According to some reports, the aircraft made a flight from Komsomolsk-on-Amur
On Thursday evening, one by one flew up with Dzemog, probably they were

Today, at 14-15 p.m., 5 boards called on the "demon", now it’s clear!

[airgus]

Yes, they are the most, and only 3 out of 5 were new, the other 2 were used so-called "blacks" the first batch of serial 35s for the Russian Defense Ministry

[parusnik]

One good news for today ...

[Tibidokh]

I support! Moreover, it is much more pleasant to read about the Su-35S, which are not in the future, but are already being delivered.
I wonder how much more difficult it is to retrain from the 27th to the 35th than from the 35th to the 57th ...

[Voyager]

It depends on which 27th. In terms of controls and electronics, 35 and 57 are very similar

[DED_peer_DED]

Do not compare the Su-27 is not "modern", even with the Su-35.
In no "modern", gold rampart.
I didn’t sit in “modern”, but I think there is less.
Who knows the station, will understand.

[airgus]

From 27 to 35 is more difficult than from 35 to 57. Since 35 and 57 have a similar control system and even a cabin, unlike the 27th. In general, 35 and 57 are very similar in filling than the su-27.

[DED_peer_DED]

"Cybernetics" is different there.
And, the logic is informational.
He who knows how can.
Awkward ....

[MPN]

Well, from experience ... No, I retrained from another and to another lieutenant, Well, that’s what happens, they plant and say, offsets in a week, then 3 export and went ...

[silverwolf88]

it’s time to learn and learn new things ... and where but in the Lipetsk Training Center ... and at the same time to improve tactics for the use of new aviation systems ...

[dauria]

Do not scare people, otherwise they will believe ....
Modellers from China and Korea have always been at their best. And the Chinese equipment and engines are now above the world level. And for the model today the thrust-to-weight ratio is less than 1, 5 - this is "fi", indecent. And this garbage has the fashionable name "3D-aerobatics", which has nothing to do with real aviation.

[Tibidokh]

Quote: dauria

not related to real aviation.

I suppose it has nothing to do with manned aircraft. But for future "terminators", modeling can be called an accumulation of experience.
Oh, I remember in the late 80s, Dad took me to the "Young Technician" ... I remember my first boat with a "rubber" engine ... and then there was already a glider on the cable!

[Oberon_13]

I support you that modeling is also experience and bold experiments. Here is an example of one impeller model that deserves attention:
The guy is just great doing this kind of mechanization.

[Tibidokh]

I have not seen this video before. Thank you so much!
It is very interesting that the planes are not synchronized with the thrust vector. I wonder what these two blades make of ... I think on a "grown-up" engine such a traction control system is not applicable, but it looks just super!

[DED_peer_DED]

Chinese engines for fighters, a copy of ours.
But, the resource is not the same. On the orders, not the one.
Our dviguny in their honor.
Compete who our engine will receive, and not them, share.

[sabakina]

san4es, you got a parachute and a granny!

[san4es]

Quote: dauria

Do not scare people, otherwise they will believe ....

Quote: sabakina

... you handed over a parachute and a granny!

... The whole joke was broken off

[mvg]

They just fly steel eggs, hmm ....

[LSA57]

Quote: silberwolf88

and where if not in the Lipetsk training center.

today that's what was
"The show dedicated to the 100th anniversary of the Lipetsk military aviation and the 65th anniversary of the Lipetsk State Order of Lenin of the Red Banner Center for the Training of Aviation Personnel and Military Tests of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation named after V.P. Chkalov will be held on Saturday on the embankment of the Voronezh River. the participation of the famous aerobatic teams of the Russian Aerospace Forces: Falcons of Russia, Russian Knights, Swifts, Rus, Helicopter Group Golden Eagles.

[Vol4ara]

He looked at them from the fire tower, almost handsome men flew over me!

[hohol95]

Hello fellow countryman! I saw everything from my window! Beautiful planes and magnificent pilots at their helms! HAPPY METALLURGH !!!

[LSA57]

Quote: hohol95

Hello fellow countryman! I saw everything from my window! Beautiful planes and magnificent pilots at their helms! HAPPY METALLURGH !!!

AND THE DAY OF THE CITY !!!

[hohol95]

And the day of the CITY I watched from the window! Everything was beautiful! Our pilots are HUGE SPECIALISTS ...

[LSA57]

Quote: hohol95

Our pilots are HUGE SPECIALISTS ...

and all on the MILITARY technique

[hohol95]

The main thing is that they need their skills only at such SHOWS ... Keep their PEACEFUL SKY ...

[LSA57]

Quote: hohol95

The main thing is that they need their skills only at such SHOWS ... Keep their PEACEFUL SKY ...

JOIN !!

[LSA57]

Quote: Vol4ara

He looked at them from the fire tower, almost handsome men flew over me!

and I'm from Novolipetsk beach)

[DED_peer_DED]

Like Benny Hill!
In the film "Air Adventures".
On the camera.

[crest]

T-50 will be purchased 14 units, more will not be purchased. So formally it will not be accepted into service. These are not my fantasies, this is an official statement from above. So, most likely the maximum, this squadron will be bought and then in order to attract customers over the hill. All money has been thrown to the sixth generation, although doubt is gnawing. The fifth is not mastered (it is not overpowered), the Hindus so far refuse to call him the fifth generation. At the Indian Military Forum, you can find a lot of things that in Russia will not appear in print.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: comb

-50 will be purchased 14 units, they will not be purchased anymore.

Who said that?

Quote: comb

This is an official statement from above.

Oh yeah

Quote: comb

All money has been thrown to the sixth generation, although doubt is gnawing.

And why from the Kremlin and under the Kazakhstan flag? Why are these encryption

Quote: comb

You can find a lot at the Indian Military Forum,

The most reliable sources

[New Year day]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Who said that?

The Ministry of Defense will reduce the first purchase of a batch of fifth-generation fighter T-50s, only one first test squadron will be purchased, Russian Deputy Minister of Defense Yuri Borisov said.

“Yes, we are reducing the purchase of PAK FA fighters, one squadron will be purchased in the coming years. At the same time, we will increase the purchase of Su-35 fighters, which are cheaper, but in terms of their tactical and technical characteristics, are a cut above their foreign counterparts, ”Borisov said. At the same time, the deputy minister stressed that the timing of the start of serial production of PAK FA does not change. “Only the number of purchases is reduced, but the series will begin within the previously agreed time frame,”
(http://www.rosinform.ru/technologii/420978-voenn
ye-otkazyvayutsya-ot-istrebitelya-pyatogo-pokolen
iya-t-50 /)
(https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2693130)

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Silvestr

I, said Deputy Minister of Defense of Russia Yuri Borisov.

It was said 23 March 2015 year. What will be fresher?

[New Year day]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

What will be fresher?

about 2 weeks ago, "Sight. Ru" referred to his words. He didn’t specifically track this topic, who knows what is actually

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Silvestr

I didn’t specifically track this topic,

But I understood that a long time ago.
“We will first contract the first squadron, these are 12 aircraft, we have two aircraft installation party with delivery already in the 2019 year, ”Borisov said.
https://tvzvezda.ru/news/opk/content/201802080708
-4ubb.htm 07: 08 08.02.2018

[New Year day]

11: 30 09.03.2017


The issue of the serial purchase of a fifth-generation fighter, the perspective front-line aviation complex (PAK FA) T-50, will be considered as part of the new state armament program for 2018–2025 after the completion of the first stage of aircraft testing, said Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Yuri Borisov.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Silvestr

1: 30 09.03.2017

I'm fresh. Look for more

[New Year day]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

I'm fresh. Look for more

so if they found, then why look?

[Kasym]

GDP talked about the purchase of new 700 fighter-bombers under the state defense order for the air forces.
These include the Su-30,34,35 and the new MiG-35 and Su-57. If we assume that the first three will be taken by 150 cars + 150-160 MiG-35 cars (somehow the VAF wrote about this plan for him); it turns out that the Su-57 will have at least 100 cars.

[Vadim237]

Will buy another 140 Su 34 fighter bombers.

[Kasym]

Now there are about 100 Su-34s, they wrote for 150-200 cars. We must also consider the replacement of the Su-24 (front. Bomber) on the Su-34. Although it will be very difficult to replace the 24th car so far.

[DED_peer_DED]

Su-57 will not take off with the current "squeeze".
Negotiated all for a long time.
Do not pretend to be.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: Silvestr

I, said Deputy Minister of Defense of Russia Yuri Borisov.

It was said 23 March 2015 year. What will be fresher?

Moscow. 4 July. 2018. INTERFAX-AVN “The promising Su-57 fighter should be regarded as a wonderful aircraft with export potential, but the main efforts should be concentrated on the creation of a transition aircraft,” said Interfax-AVN on Wednesday the head of the State Duma commission on legal support for the development of defense industry organizations, the first vice-president of the Engineering Union RF Vladimir Gutenev.
“I believe that the sixth generation fighter will be a transition vehicle between aircraft still manned and unmanned intelligent strike systems (BIUK) - in this case we are talking about air BIUKs that, thanks to their intelligence, can perform assigned tasks, including quite massive ones in groups, "he said, Commenting on the statement of the Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation, Yuri Borisov, that there will be no mass deliveries of fifth-generation Su-57 fighters to the Russian Aerospace Forces in the coming years.
“I largely agree with the words of Yuri Ivanovich (Borisov) that it is unlikely that massive purchases of Su-57 are to be expected,” V. Gutenev said. “Until the 2023-2024 of the year, the Su-57 does not intend to install a second stage engine, the tests of which have just begun, it is the“ 30 Product ”, and despite the fact that our machine is much cheaper (by my estimates, 2,5 times foreign analogues of the 5 generation), but still it is much more expensive and requires more subtle services compared to the Su-34 and Su-35 "- added V. Gutenev.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

added V. Gutenev.

Gutenev is the last person to whom he should listen. He comments on everything he hears from someone else. Something else was kind, like Blinov. The weather vane, then he says he was not understood, as it already was

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: Aron Zaavi

added V. Gutenev.

Gutenev is the last person to whom he should listen. He comments on everything he hears from someone else. Something else was kind, like Blinov. The weather vane, then he says he was not understood, as it already was

He only commented on the words of Deputy Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation.
http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/5340291

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

He only commented on the words of Deputy Defense Minister of the Russian Federation

Well, I'm talking about what, he comments on everything. In general, I don’t listen to this weirdo, the last resort

[DED_peer_DED]

Vane.
You.

[SETTGF]

Aron Zawi! Do not mention the stupidity of the environmental reclamator Gutenev ... it is only in Russia that people like him are not specialists, they carry nonsense and more!

[Muvka]

Where is it written that only one batch will be purchased? Can you distinguish between the words "one" and "first"?

[airgus]

He is not the only one who knows about it. I heard about that too.

[Muvka]

Can you provide a link to this information? Do not disappear only.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Muvka

Can you provide a link to this information?

No, of course, the link is secret, with reference to a secret source from a secret source.

[Fungus]

Yes, if you read the foreign military forums then the head will crack. Everyone will praise their technique and litter others.

[Non liberoid Russian]

koumiss was vigorous, that the encryption directly from the shoigu’s office passed directly

[askort154]

crest....These are not my fantasies, this is an official statement from above ....


About "statements from above" - ​​this is not here. This is for the doctors.

[Piramidon]

Quote: comb

At the Indian Military Forum, you can find a lot of things that in Russia will not appear in print.

And in the Kazakh and Gypsy forums you can find so much of anything ... I already asked you, as the all-knowing representative of the intelligence of Kazakhstan, at least a drop of what you know to share with the people of Russia. And then we just read from you - I know everything, but I won’t tell you.

[helmi8]

Quote: comb

T-50 will be purchased 14 units, more will not be purchased. So formally it will not be accepted into service. These are not my fantasies, this is an official statement from above. So, most likely the maximum, this squadron will be bought and then in order to attract customers over the hill

And why are there more of them if the second-stage engine is on the way? Didn’t ask yourself this question for a start? You begin to fantasize about the sixth generation, foreign customers, Indian sites ...

[DED_peer_DED]

I apologize.
And what will this device be called if there is a “second stage engine” on board?
Numbering on the Su-157, rewrite?
Well, by your logic.
Prick.

[cariperpaint]

You would first carefully read the one who stated this, then look at his position and then make similar statements. It’s the same as I’ll say now that an apple shouldn’t release an 8 model and immediately start cutting a new one.

[DED_peer_DED]

Hindus, those still, "warriors", life.
Flag in their hands.

[lucul]

Quote: comb

The fifth is not mastered (it is not overpowered), the Hindus so far refuse to call him the fifth generation. At the Indian Military Forum, you can find a lot of things that in Russia will not appear in print.

Oh yes, I see from Israel you know better))
They forgot how Su 35 undetected got on the tail of F22 when he tried to drive off our stormtroopers utilizing barmalei (instructors).

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: lucul

Oh yes, I see from Israel you know better))
They forgot how Su 35 undetected got on the tail of F22 when he tried to drive off our stormtroopers utilizing barmalei (instructors).

Confuse the Kazakh and Israeli flag.
And by the way, why did the Americans not notice this episode?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

And by the way, why did the Americans not notice this episode?

Because the Americans do not care that he confuses the flags.

[askort154]

Aron Zaavi ... And by the way, why did the Americans not notice this episode?


The Americans did not notice how Crimea returned to Russia. They were preparing there after 2019 to put up their base. But in 2014, they understood that the engine had left.
So your god of the USA is not omnipotent. And you are talking about some kind of “episode” with an airplane. Aron, breathe wider!

[voyaka uh]

Does anyone know on these first Su-57 AFAR will be installed?

[DED_peer_DED]

This is not for us.
I think there will be a regular station with an AFAR in my head.
She goes in line with the shaft.
Here, the "living fuselage and the living wing" ...
We'll see.

[123456789]

Quote: voyaka uh

Does anyone know on these first Su-57 AFAR will be installed?

"The first contract for the supply of Su-57 fighters involves the supply of the Ministry of Defense of twelve fighters."
The aircraft is equipped with an airborne radar station with an active phased array, a modern optical-radar station, an airborne defense complex, etc. All radio-electronic equipment, weapons systems and the Su-57 power plant are digitally controlled.

[Aviator_]

This, of course, pleases, but the phrase

[/ quote] who will definitely check this plane, its combat survivability [Quote]

somewhat alarming. In Akhtubinsk car will break through the real frontier of air defense?

[Alexander Romanov]

Yeah in Ukraine, right after the World Cup

[Aviator_]

To do this, ukroshumera will have to put some workable complex together with the calculation, otherwise they last 18 years from their territory only twice hit civilian aircraft.

[DED_peer_DED]

With air defense, there are problems at the level before our problems, of the year 1972-1973.
This is old stuff.
By organization, we did not dream of their “problems” in any year.

[lucul]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Confuse the Kazakh and Israeli flag.

Can't a Jew write under the Kazakh flag? )))

[DED_peer_DED]

Prox any flag, allow.
What is the problem?

[lucul]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

And by the way, why did the Americans not notice this episode?

the Americans noticed this episode, but the Jews "missed" it
Link https://yandex.ru/turbo?text=https%3A%2F%2Fria.ru
%2Fworld%2F20171219%2F1511269173.html&fallbac
k = 1
Amer link http://www.businessinsider.com/f-22-su-35-interce
pt-syria-us-major-disadvantage-2017-12

[Samara_63]

We need exterminators !!! It is necessary to prepare for aerial combat with the aces of the USA of Great Britain, France, Turkey, Greece ...

[DED_peer_DED]

And, apparently, the latter.
"There is no money, but you - hold on" (C)

[DED_peer_DED]

For me, as a loving Su-27 glider, the Su-57 is a "thin" one.
So, he will remain for me.
Su-27, as for me, a glider, prettier.
It's my personal. I do not impose on anyone.

[Zomanus]

Fine. So slowly and rearm.
In the meantime, planes with engines of the second stage will do,
have time to remove all the shortcomings and upgrade more than once.

[DED_peer_DED]

They will do.
Who?
Hindus for grandmas?

[Victoria-V]

The Indians know about all the shortcomings of the Su-57, its only potential customers who are already abandoning this project and are looking towards the F-35. So now think why these imperfections were sent to Syria. Former commander of the Russian Air Force Viktor Bondarev said that the fifth-generation fighter Su-57 will turn into a sixth-generation fighter. Or maybe immediately swing to the seventh?

[123456789]

Quote: Victoria-In

Former commander of the Russian Air Force Viktor Bondarev said that the fifth-generation fighter Su-57 will turn into a sixth-generation fighter. Or maybe immediately swing to the seventh?

Here ROFAR (quantum radar) will be finished and there will be the sixth

[Victoria-V]

Andrei Frolov, editor-in-chief of Arms Export magazine: F-35 is a serial aircraft. J-20 - pre-production, and T-50 at the development stage.

[Victoria-V]

Why offend the Indians? Call them stupid and foolish? India has about 100 nuclear warheads in readiness, ballistic missiles Agni-I (700 km), Agni-II (2500 km), Agni-III (3500 km), intercontinental ballistic missiles Agni-IV (4000 km) and Agni-V ( 8000 km).

[Victoria-V]

The American magazine The National Interest, which studies Russian military equipment with great steadfastness, analyzed the chances of the latest fifth-generation F-35 fighter surviving in a collision with Russian aircraft equipped with a new type of radar. And he admitted that these chances are small. In this connection, the sixth generation Russian fighters were called "hidden killers." http://svpressa.ru/war21/article/205185/?utm_sour
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