Transport breakthrough. Moscow, Seoul and Pyongyang are one step away from uniting railway networks

The media in South Korea published materials that talk about the creation of a tripartite group to study the issues of transportation of goods from East Asia to Europe. We are talking about a group that plans to discuss the possibility of using the Trans-Korean Railway, which will allow to deliver cargo from the ports of the Republic of Korea through the territory of the DPRK to Russia, and then to Europe.

The first stage of consultations on this issue is to be held on July 13 in North Korean Rajin, where the official delegation from South Korea will arrive. This delegation will be led by the head of the so-called northern economic cooperation committee of the Republic of Kazakhstan, Son Yeon Gil.

Official Seoul has expressed interest in using the railway, which would allow to transport goods through the territory of the DPRK. The route itself is a combination of the South Korean branch with the North Korean port of Rajin, which has a special status, and further with the Russian Hassan.

It should be noted here that last month the presidents of Russia and South Korea put their signatures under the most important memorandum on the unification of the Trans-Korean Railway with the Trans-Siberian Railway. The total cost of the project is about 3,5 billion dollars, while in Seoul we are sure that the return on these investments may turn out to be super-fast due to the volume of cargo that can be transported through North Korea and Russia to Europe and back.

Recall that this is not the first attempt to combine the Trans-Siberian Railway with the Trans-Korean Railway, but earlier all these attempts rested against various obstacles, primarily of a military-political nature.

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[Ferdinant]

And also Vietnam, Thailand, India and everyone else.

[Trek]

Ah yes Eun, ah yes well done ... !!! Squeeze the United States all the same from South Korea together .. That's what nuclear life-giving does !!! And this project, I think, is not the only one .. The USA DPRK profiled !!
And also the Northern Sea Route .. In short, the redivision of the world begins, I hope everything goes without war!

[Yrec]

In the near future - unlikely. And you can sign any declarations - the paper will endure everything.

[Trek]

Quote: Yrec

In the near future - unlikely. And you can sign any declarations - the paper will endure everything.

We have heard this more than once (about papers and stuff) .. Work in this direction is serious!
Russia is seriously engaged in safe transport systems .. And all this terribly infuriates the West, etc. I’m sure that soon commodity flows will go through Russia, cheaply and safely!
Even during the Second World War, we could provide these transports from all sides .. Then they paid with gold! And now they will pay Russia .. And they will not go anywhere!

[Megatron]

Is there a different track there? Not?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Megatron

Is there a different track there? Not?

That's right - the track is different. But is that (aggregate) Korea great that it would be problematic to lay a branch with the Russian gauge standard? The butterflies seem to be not small for this project - 3,5 billion dollars. In addition, there is already experience in solving the problem, if the embankment is already there ...

[Ren]

Quote: Nyrobsky

That's right - the track is different. But is that (aggregate) Korea great that it would be problematic to lay a branch with the Russian gauge standard?

In general, there was already such a railway, and China also connected. CER is called, built by the Russian Empire.

If it starts to be massively exploited (to increase throughput) - this is generally Strength!

[S-kerrigan]

Affiliate, really cool decision ... it never occurred to me

[bogart047]

more China and Japan

[spektr9]

Japan then how?

[Gardamir]

Japan then how?

so build a bridge.

[spektr9]

So let Japan with his money, and not in the direction of the Kuril Islands

[cariperpaint]

Right Let the bridge saw in the direction of the Crimea)))))

[Gargantua]

If only not in the direction of Moscow, stuck traffic jams

[cariperpaint]

Then the tunnel)))

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Gardamir

Japan then how?

so build a bridge.

You can also drag a ferry across the sea. Previously, the Sofia-Koslan train ran, on which the Bulgarians from the logging forests of the Komi Republic without direct trains reached Sofia and back.
The same applies for goods.

[dSK]

Quote: Nyrobsky

ferry across the sea.

On the border between the DPRK and Russia, a river needs to be built the bridge that is "needed yesterday".

[Nyrobsky]

Quote from dsk

Quote: Nyrobsky

ferry across the sea.

On the border between the DPRK and Russia, a river needs to be built the bridge that is "needed yesterday".

It was about a ferry cargo from Japan. As for the North. Korea then with them the railway bridge was built not even yesterday, but the day before ..

.... and apparently, the bridge is adapted to any track.

[Grits]

On the border between the DPRK and Russia, the river, it is necessary to build a bridge, which "is needed yesterday."
A couple of days ago, Consul General Sev. Korea came to Vladivostok. Where I met with our Primorsky Governor and discussed the construction of a bridge across the Tumangan. The bridge is there, but old.

[KVU-NSVD]

The idea is certainly cool and mutually beneficial. To it would still add the Trans-Korean gas pipeline with our gas .. BUT

this is not the first attempt to unite the Trans-Siberian Railway with the Trans-Korean Railway, but earlier all these attempts rested on various obstacles, primarily of a military-political nature.

I don’t think that even now all good intentions are being realized ..

[LSA57]

that the return on these investments may turn out to be superfast in connection with the volumes of goods that can be transported through the DPRK and Russia to Europe and vice versa.

and this is the most important

[Victor N]

Transib is overloaded right now.

[Topotun]

Ie if that, the troops to transfer - there will be no problems .....

[The Siberian barber]

..to the "joy" of the Americans
I have no doubt at all that they put, put, and will put "sticks in the wheels" of this project)
China, probably, is also not happy))

[NF68]

This is what the USA really does not like. And if later the volumes of goods transported by railway will increase markedly and other countries of Eurasia will join this business, then here the United States is generally not pleasant.

[marshes]

Hooray! Hooray!
I myself am surprised that the Kyrgyz carry cars and non-earplugs from South Korea, through China and us, by railway containers through Alashankou.

[Trek]

Quote: marshes

Hooray! Hooray!
I myself am surprised that the Kyrgyz carry cars and non-earplugs from South Korea, through China and us, by railway containers through Alashankou.

It’s through you that they won’t be anymore .. (there will be nothing to drag))) Everything will go through Russia directly! And the security will be clear .. Everything goes to this swamp!

[marshes]

Quote: Trek

It’s through you that they won’t be anymore .. (there will be nothing to drag))) Everything will go through Russia directly! And the security will be clear .. Everything goes to this swamp!

So the speed of transportation through is much higher, plus logistics and dry docks. Than via BAM or Transib.
At the moment, even the passenger transportation schedule has been changed in favor of freight.

[NF68]

Quote: Trek

Quote: marshes

Hooray! Hooray!
I myself am surprised that the Kyrgyz carry cars and non-earplugs from South Korea, through China and us, by railway containers through Alashankou.

It’s through you that they won’t be anymore .. (there will be nothing to drag))) Everything will go through Russia directly! And the security will be clear .. Everything goes to this swamp!

At least 2 the threads of the future "alkaline path" will go through Kazakhstan: first in the south, and then through the central part of Kazakhstan and through Semipalatinsk to Rubtsovsk and Barnaul.

[Kasym]

Nikolai, they have been working for a long time. South (h \ s Khorgos) was recently built and has been working for a couple of years. Now they (both branches) are increasing volumes. Railway capacity up to 170 million tons of cargo per year - authorities say that somewhere up to 22-25gg. they will be fully loaded. The issue of high-speed railway is being worked out, the construction of the highway is nearing completion.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: Kasym

The issue of high-speed railway is being worked out, the construction of the autobahn is ending.

I hope all of this, maybe we can live with you if capitalism doesn’t kill us in the next world war. These projects are extremely important both for Kazakhstan and for Russia, and indeed for humanity as a whole.

[Kasym]

This is all connected with the global EURASIA project (from Lisbon to Vladivostok, and beyond). Maybe then the wars on the continent will stop ... And it is obvious that this is not beneficial to the States that will remain out of reach.

[NF68]

Quote: Kasym

This is all connected with the global EURASIA project (from Lisbon to Vladivostok, and beyond). Maybe then the wars on the continent will stop ... And it is obvious that this is not beneficial to the States that will remain out of reach.

Judging by how the United States is turbid in the Middle East and Afghanistan, it would be naive to believe that the outlets on the continent will stop. The United States will do everything in their power to ensure that this world does not exist.

[NF68]

Quote: Kasym

Nikolai, they have been working for a long time. South (h \ s Khorgos) was recently built and has been working for a couple of years. Now they (both branches) are increasing volumes. Railway capacity up to 170 million tons of cargo per year - authorities say that somewhere up to 22-25gg. they will be fully loaded. The issue of high-speed railway is being worked out, the construction of the highway is nearing completion.

It is also necessary to build a lot of things on the territory. Although if you take into account what kind of money China allocates for this and how intensively work is going on, then anyway it turns out that sooner or later this project will be brought to mind.

[Kasym]

Actually, it all started with loans ... Japan in 90's. The author was the first Minister of Transport of the Republic of Kazakhstan, Isingarin N.K.. The PRC joined when the United States blocked the Strait of Malacca with military exercises, where 80% of China's exports took place.

[NF68]

Quote: Kasym

Actually, it all started with loans ... Japan in 90's. The author was the first Minister of Transport of the Republic of Kazakhstan, Isingarin N.K.. The PRC joined when the United States blocked the Strait of Malacca with military exercises, where 80% of China's exports took place.

Even if China had connected to this earlier, then where would China have found such money? After all, they still had to develop their country. Especially the western part of China.

[Kasym]

Japanese money went to equipment for changing train pairs (different track) at the Druzhba station (Dostyk). And the construction of new railways is a different story. Already somewhere over 2 km .. Last year, the throughput capacity on the South Branch in the Almaty region was expanded. In spring, they launched the 700th route of the Talgo high-speed train Alma-Ata-Tashkent (do not confuse it with high-speed trains, Talgo trains (Spain) are assembled in the KZ).
In fact, railroads for joint ventures were built not only on Chinese loans - KZ itself has invested quite a lot since 98g.

[1536]

The most important thing is to weaken the influence of China on the DPRK, to squeeze the Chinese out of the railway industry at least. And for this, all means and deeds are good. But, alas, this can only be dreamed of.

[cariperpaint]

There is no reason to weaken the influence on the north. They are the only ones who somehow control this country. Though somehow affect it.

[Gardamir]

And if you build a bridge from Japan to South Korea, then there will already be a four-sided group.

[Uncle lee]

And what I was talking about! This project will close the construction of a bridge on Sakhalin!

[tTshka]

Soon we’ll also let the train go to Japan))) choo-choo-choo-chooh

[antivirus]

for sausage ??

usa china and yapi will be against it.
how is our bridge to Sakhalin and further to Yapi? - Will it lose relevance?

Jerusalem and Seoul - two points began TrMV - it is better to abandon the road.
- a lot here about the tiger corpse in the river and sit on the shore, and right now we climb into the whirlpool of history?
A QUESTION OF 2 KOREA - A QUESTION OF INFLUENCE IN CHINA AND JAPAN - AS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE 20th CENTURY. NIKKI-2 EXPERIENCE NOT COLLECTED ???

[Igor V]

And Korean conductors are stylish, fit, step in step, except for the boss.
In general, I always did not like inactive railways. It is time to download them.

[APASUS]

In Korea, the Japanese built railways, so we have nothing to rejoice about. We must again invent how cars will go from one size to another

[bouncyhunter]

But doesn’t such a method already exist? We have changed trains in Brest for a long time.

[marshes]

Quote: bouncyhunter

But doesn’t such a method already exist? We have changed trains in Brest for a long time.

Your Belshina, to the point of cheapness, is cheap for us, and so the Kirghiz drags used Rezina from South Korea.

[bouncyhunter]

And what does Belshina have to do with trains? In Brest, trains change their shoes when switching from European gauge to ours and vice versa.

[marshes]

Quote: bouncyhunter

And what does Belshina have to do with trains? In Brest, trains change their shoes when switching from European gauge to ours and vice versa.

I know that the same thing is happening here. They lift it on the jacks, and then the wheelsets start up under the platforms.
And what does Belshina have to do with it, and it was yours who insisted on introducing duties on Chinese tires, not a bad quality, after all, poor Kyrgyz, they import rubber from South Korea, they have to live like that.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: marshes

it was yours who insisted on the imposition of duties on Chinese tires, not of poor quality, after all. Here are poor Kyrgyz, they are importing rubber from South Korea, they have to live like that.

Insisted, so what? Everyone defends his production. Or was it better to allow the Chinese to walk on their heads? This does not concern the topic of the article, no?

[marshes]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Insisted, so what? Everyone defends his production. Or was it better to allow the Chinese to walk on their heads? This does not concern the topic of the article, no?

The old man hiss, but shut off the oxygen to the Kyrgyz, otherwise we have no reason to slow down the used rubber, and damn it, the mountain is already being built up where it is temporarily stored, because Russia is on the side of the Kyrgyz.

[bouncyhunter]

I’m as far from Father’s as you are. So the question is definitely not at the address.

[Uncle lee]

pasha We have run it for a long time and is already closing, because the track has already been changed to standard, Russian

[marshes]

There are interesting railway roads, under two tracks on the sleepers. Somehow the photo was exhibited here.

[Piramidon]

Quote: APASUS

In Korea, the Japanese built railways, so we have nothing to rejoice about. We must again invent how cars will go from one size to another

Let the trans-Siberian old-timers correct me, but, as far as I remember, in the days of the USSR the Moscow-Pyongyang train somehow ran. I don’t know the route, maybe through Beijing.

[PalBor]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: APASUS

In Korea, the Japanese built railways, so we have nothing to rejoice about. We must again invent how cars will go from one size to another

Let the trans-Siberian old-timers correct me, but, as far as I remember, in the days of the USSR the Moscow-Pyongyang train somehow ran. I don’t know the route, maybe through Beijing.

And now, it seems, there is. Through Ussuriysk and Hassan. At the border, one car is unhooked from our train and hooked to the Korean one.

[_Sergei_]

The Russian track is slightly wider than the Korean one - 1520 mm and 1435 mm. In 2008, even under Yakunin, an agreement was signed on the joint operation of the canvas and reconstruction took place. The canvas on the Korean side has become double (i.e. 1520 and inside 1435). Probably in order for their cars to go ours. The railway was electrified The reconstruction took place only 54 km. To some port. Something like this. Now, under the new agreement, reconstruction will be carried out further and there will be a common control room.

[Simon]

Quote: Megatron

Is there a different track there? Not?

They will make one, Russian. All will unite and the trains will go through Russia. All paths will be shifted under the track of 1520 mm. All plants will be launched to produce rail. It is beneficial for us.

[Apollo]

This will not bring tangible income to the country. All "achievements" will be dissolved in the bins of Russian Railways.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Apollo

This will not bring tangible income to the country. All "achievements" will be dissolved in the bins of Russian Railways.

Did Russian Railways stop paying taxes to the treasury? Is it all gone, have you got everything in your personal pockets?

[Nimitz]

Quote: Megatron

Is there a different track there? Not?

From Yandex picture. This is in Brest. I heard from the Germans that wagons with components for VW plants are changing axles (wheelsets) in Brest. May also be done.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Nimitz

I heard from the Germans that wagons with components for VW plants are changing axles (wheelsets) in Brest. May also be done.

About 50 years already this method works. Worked out to the smallest detail.

[Korsar4]

So is there technical information on resolving the gauge issue? Although, globally, these are just the details.

[rocket757]

Talk, talk, reach out! .... then more about reaching out!
As soon as we begin to clap our hands!

[tracer]

But this is serious ...

[Mountain shooter]

And if only the United States did not interfere. Another gas pipeline! Construction of nuclear power plants in the DPRK. In short, there is no end to any projects ... But is such a strengthening of Korea beneficial to China? They look at Vietnam askew.

[sokolov_vv]

Trek Yesterday, 16:55 ↑ New
Ah yes Eun, ah yes well done ... !!! Squeeze the United States all the same from South Korea together .. That's what nuclear life-giving does !!! And this project, I think, is not the only one .. The USA DPRK profiled !!
And also the Northern Sea Route .. In short, the redivision of the world begins, I hope everything goes without war!

God grant that!
And what to do with 20 three. $ US debt?
What if holders of stocks demand compensation in kind?
There are no such wealth on Earth.
So the war.