Then we began to count the tanks!

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Periodically on the Internet or in print, the issue of quantity is debated. tanks in the ranks of the Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, and now also in the Airborne Forces there are tanks, and they are also part of the Marine Corps of the Navy (as part of the Coastal Forces of the Navy and were, in fact, these were ordinary motorized rifle brigades, but assigned to the Navy because of the geography of its permanent dislocation). No, everyone knows that, along with long-term storage, Russia's tank supply is such that it will be numerically enough for us, and our allied friends, and our potential opponents. But as regards tanks in linear units, there are many different assessment options, and very often they refer to different estimates of the beginning of the 2010s, when they eliminated formations and units, converted divisions into brigades. But since then much water has flowed both in the rivers and from the stands. The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation gradually reorganized the brigades, then proceeded to the formation of divisions.

Let us try to estimate how many machines we should have in parts, based on the approximate states and their total number. The exact organizational structures for each part or compound in our country are secret, we have not been de facto in the CFE Treaty for a long time, so there is no exact information on this. But the typical OSHS are more or less known, so you can roughly estimate what we do.



To begin with, we will open the Military Balance 2018 reference book, published by Stockholm SIPRI. Honestly, this reference book even in the description of NATO armies sins with errors and weirdness, but when it comes to Russia, it seems that, even though the Vikings have become historyas berserks, but the art of consuming fly-agaric in Sweden is not forgotten. Although the Swedes have never-ending searches for submarines of the Russian Navy, or submersibles of the movement of submarines, even some bottom-tracked vehicles (there was something like this in the Swedish media at the time) also suggest these thoughts - obviously it doesn’t do without fly agarics.

Then we began to count the tanks!


According to this reference book, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have 2780 tanks in combat, but the fact that there is inaccurate information can be seen from the tanks and how many. For example, T-90 and T-90А are 350 machines, and in fact there are fewer of them in the troops, and T-90, apart from a few machines in combat training groups of formations and trainings, mostly stand on central base reserves (in SIPRI this is noted, but the total figure in 550 machines is not true). T-72B3 and T-72B3 UBH - total 880 machines, in their opinion, although this upgrade comes with UVZ in large quantities already from 2011, in some years and up to 300 machines came, and 200 a year passed, and all in any way they have in the reference book up to 1000 even if it’s not enough, although there it has long been more than 1000 in fact. However, a year or two ago they had everything in the directory even worse, for example, there were T-55 and T-62 in reserve. Which have long been removed from service (although, of course, the reserve bases are still there, from where the same T-62 and T-62M fall into Syria).

Some time ago, the American Insitute for the Study of War (ISW), “The Institute for the Study of War,” released a report on the Military Military Forure - Ground Forces Order of Battle. From there we will take information about the number (for about the second half of last year) and the location of the armed forces of the Armed Forces of the RF Armed Forces. We are not particularly interested in dislocation, but the connections themselves - yes. It should be understood that this directory is inaccurate, for example, in a number of divisions, fourth battle regiments (combined-arms - tank and motorized rifle) regiments were already formed, and there they are not indicated, there is something not there at all, but this is not so and important. When calculating, we take it as the basis that in separate motorized rifle brigades we have a tank battalion 41 tank - 4 companies for 3 platoon for 3 tank plus a company tank in each and plus a battalion tank. And in tank battalions of tank divisions of divisions and separate tank brigades - 31 tank, in tank battalions of motorized rifle regiments of divisions we take 41-tank state as a basis (although variants are possible) Although there is information that they switched to 42-tank and 32-tank States - another tank in the management of the battalion. In a tank brigade of tank battalions 3, motorized rifle -1, in a motorized rifle brigade, on the contrary, in a tank regiment also 3 tank and motorized rifle battalion, in a motorized rifle brigade on the contrary. The motorized rifle division has a 3 motorized rifle division and a tank regiment (we are talking only about combined-arms regiments, artillery and anti-aircraft missiles, and the rest of the economy is not interested in us), the tank division is vice versa. This, of course, about ordinary states, there are also so-called heavy ones. Accordingly, tanks in a motorized rifle brigade or regiment go 41 (42?), In a tank 94 (97?), As well as in a tank regiment, in a motorized rifle division - 217 (223?) Of a tank, in a tank 323 (333) of a tank. It is clear that the division command also has tanks, but we will not consider them. Of course, this is a full-fledged division that was fully formed until the end, but in reality there is somewhere a 3 regiment, somewhere a 3 regiment and a tank battalion, but in the process of formation there is already a regiment, and somewhere, maybe even a 2 regiment. But this, of course, is a temporary moment, and we do not take it into account.

So, according to the aforementioned report, there are now 12 armies (1 of which are tank troops) and 4 army corps in the armed forces of the Russian Federation and the Coastal Forces of the Navy. In the Western Military District (ZVO) of this number 3 army (1 GVTA, 20 Gu. OA, 6 OA) and 1 Corps (11 Gu. AK in the Kaliningrad defense region), in the joint operational command of the North (North fleet) includes 14 AK on the Kola Peninsula, in the Southern Military District (YuVO) - 3 army (8 GV.OA, 58 OA, 49 OA) and 1 Corps (22 AK in the Crimea), in the Central Military District (CVO) - 2 Army (2 Gu. OA, 41 OA), in the Eastern Military District (BBO) - 4 Army (29 OA, 35 OA, 36 OA, 5 OA) and 1 Corps (68 AK on Sakhalin and Kuriles). The 1 Guards Tank Army 4-I Guards Tank and 2-I Guards Motorized Rifle Divisions, 6-I separate tank brigade, 27-I Guards Motorized Rifle Brigade (various units and units of the army and corps are not counted), this way I’m done. 675) tanks subject to the formation of the fourth regiments in 695 guards and 4 guards, but so far they are only being formed. The 2 Guards Combined Arms Army - 20 Guards. MSD and 144 MSD, as a result, 3 (434) tanks come out, provided that the divisions are completed, but it is known that so far the fourth pair of regiments is only being formed there in both divisions. However, it is possible that 446 Guards. The Moscow Armed Forces will have not one tank regiment, but two - on the basis of a separate tank battalion, a tank regiment is being formed, and meanwhile, the 144-th TP in the division already exists. That is, the division will be something like 228 MSD

In the northern and northwestern parts of the Western Military District, tanks are much worse, in 6 OA there are only 2 motorized rifle brigades (138 and 25 men’s brigades), so there are only 82 (84) tanks per army, and the army generally small. On the other hand, in potential adversaries there is only a Baltic superpower with three NATO combined battalions inside and Finland. True, judging by everything, when forming the divisions, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation re-approach the issue in such a way that, as a result, each army will have at least one msd, so some similar decision in this case is not excluded in the coming years. In the Kaliningrad 11th Guards AK there are only two motorized rifle brigades (Omsbr), 7 Guards and 79 Guards, total 82 (84) tanks. There are no tanks in the Baltic Fleet’s 336th Guards brigade located nearby, but probably in the next couple of years there will be a company and then a battalion - a similar process is already underway in the Pacific navy. So far, no one is forming any divisions there, but such a solution, as it seems, suggests itself in the future. However, soon only a fairy tale from the rostrum affects, and the matter is usually done much more slowly. In total, we have 1275 (1305) tanks in the ranks of linear formations as part of the ZVO, although in reality there are fewer of them so far. If we add the 14th AK from the USS “Sever” there, then for sure there is a tank battalion of 200 men’s brigade there, maybe it will or will be in the 80 Arctic brigade, there are no tanks in 61 brigade of the Marine Corps, but they will definitely appear soon. For now, we count 82 (84 tanks).

In the Central Military District, according to the same report, the 2 Gu. OA is now a 3 motorized rifle brigade, numbered 21, 15 and 30. But they are all different. 21 ombsbr from Totsky, it seems, is the only one in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (perhaps not), formed according to the so-called 2 (2) tank goes to the "heavy state" with 82 tank and 84 motorized rifle battalions, but the 15 ombsbr is peacekeeping, the tank battalion seems to be missing in it, and before 30 omsbr, which was newly formed, was replaced after the start of launching Ukraine from this army of units and formations (which became the basis for the formation of the 144 MSD) - there is no information on its composition, except that it has a Syrian reconnaissance battalion following the Syrian tracks, seemingly planted on various light machines, starting with "Tigrov-M" and ending with the "Patriots". Probably, the tank battalion is still there. In general, we conditionally write for the army 123 (124) tank. According to the same document, the recently formed 90 Guards Tank Division is part of the 41 OA (previously there was information that it remained a district subordination, who is right here is unknown), along with 74 guards. ombsbr, xnumx gv. Omsbr and 35 mountain brigade from Kyzyl in Tuva. There are no tanks for the Tuvan "highlanders", they do not need them, but all others have them. There also includes 55 military base in Tajikistan, in which now there are three motorized rifle regiments, it seems, tanks are everywhere. In sum, there is a fairly strong fist in the 201 (534) tank, if everything is correct, of course. Total for CVO is obtained 543 (657) machines.

In VVO, despite 4 armies and corps, divisions, namely, they are the most "rich" in heavy armored vehicles, have not yet been formed, but only so far. The armies themselves are far from being all deployed, in a number of them combined arms brigade, God forbid, 1-2, and with deployed brigades and army regiments. In general, this situation is clear - at the moment China is not an enemy to us, but a friend and ally, and our potential enemies are increasingly in Europe, in NATO. Total in all these 4 armies and 1 corps there are 10 motorized rifle brigades, 1 tank brigade and 18 machine-gun artillery division in the Kuril Islands (fortified, but tank units are also in it, where without them), that is, approximately 600 tanks. In addition, in the Pacific Fleet, there are no tanks in the 155 brigade of the marine corps, but soon there will be a company in the Marine brigade of the 40 brigade, but it will be reorganized into a battalion, we will also calculate it.

In the Southern Military District, the 58 OA now has 42 Guards. MSD, 19 and 136 ombsbr, 4 Guards military base in South Ossetia. 42 Evpatoria Division is now fully deployed, but if you believe the researchers from the United States, there is no tank regiment in it or it is deployed. In total, 340 (350) machines are obtained. In 49 OA, entire 2 combined arms brigade, 205, and 34 are mountain, in which there are no tanks. Much more interesting is the newly formed 8 Gu. The OA, formed with a clear target of possible coercion to the world, of various pushing Cossacks from the territory adjacent to the Donbas republics, who adore discourse on how they "restrain Russian fascism", not forgetting, of course, shout out Nazi slogans and "greet the Sun" with a characteristic gesture. It has a 150 Idritsko-Berlin MRS, which includes the 2 tank and 2 motorized rifle regiments, which are formed by, as claimed, heavy states. That is, in it, both tanks and artillery are much more, not only in conventional artillery systems, but even in td. If we assume (and this is most likely the way it is) that the states of this division repeat the OHS of the so-called Ogarkov heavy vehicles, successfully dispersed under Gorbachev, then the tanks there eventually, upon completion of the formation, may be under 400. In those divisions in the battalions there were 4 companies (MSN 3 MSR and 1 tr, in TB, on the contrary), and all the tank companies were 13-tank, and the battalions even in the tank regiments had 40 tanks. Moreover, at the battalion level there were 122-mm ACS 2С1 and many other useful things, and in the regiments artillery served 152mm 2С3, which in ordinary divisions were artillery regiment. Also in the same army includes 20 Guards. Omsbr from Volgograd (if the Americans are not mistaken). In the Crimean 22 AK, a combined-arms brigade with tanks is still one - under the 126 number from Pereval'ny, called the coastal defense brigade, but in fact it is a motorized rifle, just naval submission. This is also 41 (42 tank). Total for the Southern Military District, 860-876 tanks are released, if all units are completed, and the estimates for the 150 divisions more or less coincide with reality.

Total for all districts is obtained 3475-3530 machines in service. In reality, there are fewer of them, for the above reasons - not all the units have been formed, on the other hand, training centers and military schools, where more than one hundred tanks are, we also do not consider, like many other things. And, of course, tanks on the bases of storage and repair of military equipment (BHiRVT), that is, bases for the formation of regiments and brigades of the first mobilization line, are not taken into account (everything else is already formed on the basis of equipment from central reserve bases). These BHiRVTs are now being reformed into the so-called MOMs (development support centers), in fact, this is the same base, but with a training and other base to support the activities of permanent reserve reservists, which has recently been officially legalized, and this is a very good and long overdue solution. We do not take into account the bases of the double-based system, where the sets of equipment are stored for the connections being transferred lightly from the depth of the country of the connections, and the central bases of the reserve themselves - after all, we considered the combat vehicles. So in total, about 15 of thousands of machines would come out, perhaps less than 12-13 of thousands.

At the same time, it must be said that in the near future the formation of divisions will be continued. Thus, according to media reports, in the Southern Military District, the formation of three masters at once (perhaps less, nevertheless) based on the 19, 20 and 136 rsbbr will be launched. There were also reports about the creation of a “coastal defense” division in the North, perhaps even two - on the Kola Peninsula and on Chukotka. The formation of divisions begins beyond the Urals, so, in the 5 of the Red Banner OA in Primorye, the 127 of the Red Banner MSD is formed. Each MSD means an increase in the order of 176 or more tanks (this is if it is formed on the basis of one motorized rifle brigade, if two - then the increase will be less significant). It is clear that with such a deployment of parts of the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation it was ready to abandon the previously announced thesis about getting rid of tank assortments and intensively return the T-80BV tanks to repair and minimally upgrade while launching the modernization program of their fleet in T-80BVM. Tanks are needed a lot, and still need a lot of personnel, especially officers. And with the release of young officers there are problems - a truly normal graduation is only expected, before that officers who graduated from a small number of schools were graduated. Of course, this is not the situation before the Great Patriotic War, when 30 mechanized corps were being formed, and the shortage before the war in them reached tens of thousands of posts. But we are not in a situation like before the war. Although it is unequivocal that the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are gradually unfolding, but this is not a mobilization character. The situation in the world has simply changed - priorities, goals, objectives, and requirements for structure and size, including the tank park, have changed.



In addition, we forgot about the Airborne Forces, and after all, there were formed 6 tank companies (in each of the 2 airborne assault divisions and 4 airborne assault brigades), the companies in the divisions are deployed in battalions, in brigades, like, while they remain companies or then also become a battalion. This is more than a hundred tanks.

Is it a lot or a little - more than three thousand tanks in the line-up formation? This is a lot, considering that even the US has all 10 tank brigades with 87 tanks each, 3 of the same brigade in the National Guard and several hundred (maximum) tanks in the ILC. And there is nothing to say about the various European "great powers": with the exception of the Poles, as well as the Greeks and Turks (whose almost completely outdated tank fleets are directed at each other mostly), the European powers are lucky to have two hundred vehicles in the ranks. France has 200 machines, Germany has 225 (there is a plan to deploy to 328), Britain has less than 200 and so on. But there are also parks for 32-40 machines, the absolute majority of such members in NATO. This is not related to the real combat readiness of these units, formations and armies in these countries. As well as comparing the technical level of all the machines that are in service in the Armed Forces or NATO countries. But this is no longer the subject of this material.
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  1. +8
    12 July 2018 05: 37
    It's just great - a big country, respectively, and technology should be in abundance. Too many lookosters, with self-interest.
    1. +2
      12 July 2018 08: 26
      As much as 20000 tanks is a lot, but 2000 is not enough for the whole of Russia
      1. +2
        12 July 2018 08: 30
        We owe them how much we need, modernized and preferably new.
        1. +4
          13 July 2018 04: 53
          Now we need a lot, and to fit into the budget. Therefore, the bet on the modernization of the T-72 and T-80. Their modernization is 4 times cheaper than the new T-90, but it's even scary to think about Armata ...
          Therefore, they are not in a hurry with us at Armat and other Kurgan. There should be a lot of tanks, and better - a lot. And they are - on storage bases, magnificent as almost all the creations of the Soviet military genius. And not only tanks, but also artillery, infantry fighting vehicles, MLRS ...
          Well, judging by the fact that even BMP-1 was decided to be driven away through modernization, with the turret replaced by a module with a 30 mm gun ... So the war is really close.
          1. +4
            13 July 2018 04: 57
            And yet, the author forgot to count tanks in two LDNR buildings. And we are offended - after all, in one battle to fight.
            1. +1
              13 July 2018 06: 28
              Oh and we dragged on LDNR, they had to be lime for a long time.
          2. -1
            13 July 2018 17: 56
            Quote: bayard
            there should be a lot of anchovs, and better, a lot.

            Main Battle Tank - according to the old classification, this is a heavy tank, there can be many of them.
            We need a medium tank - something like the T-34 only in a modern version. Anticipating your objections - yes - it will yield to MBT, but will surpass any other armored vehicles on the battlefield, and there will be ten times more medium tanks.
            1. +1
              16 July 2018 11: 49
              Main Battle Tank - according to the old classification, this is a heavy tank

              They wrote garbage. The concept of "MBT" was born precisely because these tanks combine both high mobility and the comparative low cost of a medium tank, and the security and firepower of a heavy one. The same T-64A is still the development of the T-54, and not the T-10M. At least by weight, compare.
              We need a medium tank - something like the T-34 only in a modern version

              What is it like? A three-inch gun and armor that you can pierce with your finger? Such a tank will have no chance of sustaining a hit from an RPG (it is generally better to keep silent about ATGMs). What exactly will the hordes of such machines have to do?
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      2. +17
        12 July 2018 12: 53
        Joke about tanks remembered
        1. +9
          12 July 2018 14: 16
          The same joke in the Soviet Jumble
      3. +8
        12 July 2018 14: 51
        There are never too many tanks? But after all, tanks themselves without motorized infantry, self-propelled guns, engineering and aviation support, support for mobile material support, repairs, cannot fight in combat. Are we not once again carried away by the large-scale number of tanks without the necessary interaction of different branches of the armed forces providing for the combat operations of tanks in modern conditions of large-scale non-nuclear war?
        How is it with the organization of such interaction of different branches of the army under the unified leadership of not only exercises, but also regular army training?
        Do we not step on the rake for 41 years, when the tanks are separate, self-propelled guns separately, anti-tank weapons and motorized infantry separately, no interaction with the battlefield aircraft and other mistakes of that time.
  2. +7
    12 July 2018 05: 59
    At our storage base in Yekaterinburg, in my opinion, a thousand tanks are under a tarp
    1. +7
      12 July 2018 07: 26
      Quote: Clever man
      At our base

      Hello to you from the Pentagon, they will definitely aim one warhead personally at you - they deserve it laughing
      1. +16
        12 July 2018 08: 04
        Quote: Boris55
        Hello to you from the Pentagon, they will definitely aim one warhead personally at you - they deserve it

        Oh, they all know. In modern conditions of development of satellite technologies, it is not a problem to detect these “tank fields”.
        However, no one will spend on this bunch of scrap metal, nuclear ammunition.

        As Ukrainian experience shows, the option “don't cost so much, if necessary, we will repair” does not work even in the conditions of conflicts of low and medium intensity ..
        The Medvedev-Serdyukov refusal of BHVT was a huge mistake, to say the least. If you so wanted to free the personnel of the RF Armed Forces for combat units, it was quite possible to take advantage of the experience of the GRAU, and civil servants of the RA could well protect and maintain the equipment. Or even transfer these tasks to commercial structures - the very outsourcing about which all ears buzzed would be quite appropriate in this case.
        1. +2
          12 July 2018 08: 27
          Quote: Spade
          Oh, they all know.

          After these words, the number of "random" traitors has grown significantly. The work of the FSB officers also increased ... laughing
          1. +5
            12 July 2018 16: 48
            You want to say that after Vadim Bakatin presented (and in fact betrayed his homeland) to the Americans, they still don’t know what plans for wiretapping in their new embassy? Yes, in these striped fagots, jypysy moths stand on ALL Tu-160s, they track their movement to the millimeter, these geeks climbed into each shaft of the Strategic Missile Forces and even delivered their electronic security equipment. What are the secrets of the location of the cemetery of tanks?
  3. +8
    12 July 2018 08: 15
    Vyatkin is Vyatkin. The author’s calculations reminded me of an old joke where Izya was asked how much two plus two would be, and he replied: “How much do you need?” So the author, having counted the tank parks of the "Baltic tigers", completely forgot about 8000 Chinese tanks. Because then, the calculations take on a completely different look.
    1. +4
      12 July 2018 11: 44
      Quote: Curious
      completely forgot about 8000 Chinese tanks.

      That's why Ukrainians are so worried about Chinese tanks? It would seem where is Ukraine, and where is China.
      1. +6
        12 July 2018 12: 18
        Ukrainians Chinese tanks violet. Commented on an article by a specific author on a specific topic. Or do you need further clarification? Maybe you are an Estonian?
  4. 0
    12 July 2018 08: 20
    As far as I heard in the conservation and armament of the USSR remained about 20000 tanks. After the revisions, it turned out that there were about 2000 combat-ready units. The remaining 18000, it was decided to cut into scrap metal. I can’t provide relevant links, but the information was definitely in the media. Years in the 2000s
    1. +1
      12 July 2018 12: 17
      Sawed massively T-64 after the 2012-th year. The rest did not go anywhere.
      1. +6
        12 July 2018 16: 40
        They massively sawed everything until 2012, it was especially surprising when they sawed off the T-80 and BMP-2 at the base, and through the fence there was a regiment on the BMP-1 and T-62.
  5. +1
    12 July 2018 08: 27
    While reading, I was sure that Damantsev was writing. Thought what he was doing for OSh?

    Guessed the site administration with this author, definitely.
  6. +1
    12 July 2018 09: 40
    Many thanks to the author for the review. Quality material.
  7. +8
    12 July 2018 09: 42
    For a small local war with all the little things like Ukraine and Georgia, 2000 tanks (if they are of course in a ready state and with trained crews) are enough for the eyes. Well, if evil spirits larger than the type of NATO countries climb up, then Welkam to the participation of the Strategic Missile Forces and the Borey class submarines that burn out London, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York, Boston, Washington and Philadelphia.
    1. +1
      12 July 2018 09: 59
      Seriously?))) 2000 is enough for you?))))) Can you even imagine what 2000 tanks are against one enemy?)))))) These are only 6000 crews))))
      1. +6
        12 July 2018 10: 33
        Do not stop Kuze from destroying the enemy by nuclear burning. And then distract, and he will break the burner.
        1. +1
          12 July 2018 10: 38
          Well, yes) it’s better not to interfere)
        2. +3
          12 July 2018 11: 38
          As Putin said:
          And why do we need a world where there is no place for Russia?
          So let us at least take these fat Wall Street bankers with us.
          1. +7
            12 July 2018 12: 22
            Usually, such militarists beyond peacetime in war become equally prohibitive pacifists.
      2. 0
        12 July 2018 11: 36
        Well, actually, each ms division has a tank regiment of 96 tanks, and given the presence of separate tank regiments and brigades, then 2000 tanks are few. Of course, I understand that even 200 tanks are a lot for you, but I won’t interfere with the sofa strategist wassat
        1. +1
          12 July 2018 12: 58
          Not a lot in the whole country, it is. But against one country, like your example of Georgia there or Ukraine, this is a gigantic amount)
    2. 0
      12 July 2018 11: 33
      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
      Borey-class submarines, burning out London, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York, Boston, Washington and Philadelphia.

      Is there any way to verify that we still have full nuclear charges, and not inert pigs?
      1. +9
        12 July 2018 11: 41
        If this were so, then NATO would have long carried out humanitarian bombing of Russia to rid the Russians of Putin's "totalitarian yoke", as the Serbs were "freed" from the yoke of Milosevic, the Libyans from the yoke of Gaddafi, the Iraqis from the yoke of Hussein, the Afghans from the yoke of the Taliban, and how trying to save the Syrians from the yoke of Assad.
        1. 0
          13 July 2018 11: 10
          Quote: Kot_Kuzya
          If this were so, then NATO would have long carried out humanitarian bombing of Russia to rid the Russians of Putin’s “totalitarian yoke”

          And this operation would be fatal for NATO and a complete ruin for the US concern, riveting weapons. As indicated in the article, NATO specifically overestimate the performance of Russian military equipment. What for? A scarecrow is needed to justify the continued existence of NATO with the armed forces at the proper level.
          Quote: Kot_Kuzya
          how they liberated the Serbs from the yoke of Milosevic, the Libyans from the yoke of Gaddafi, the Iraqis from the yoke of Hussein, the Afghans from the yoke of the Taliban, and how they try to save the Syrians from the yoke of Assad.

          But this is just normal. With progress, various small countries with an independent government have more and more opportunities to arrange a considerable bummer for the existing world order. For example, spent nuclear batteries used in oceanic automatic buoys and lighthouses, at one time they simply drowned in the sea. In the 90s, it was difficult and expensive to find and get them from a depth of 1,5-2 km. Now much easier. Add a little TNT and you get a pretty serious "dirty bomb" that can paralyze the work of several closely located enterprises for weeks and months. In a modern stock market economy, such a bomb is a great way to not only cause serious harm to someone, but it’s also very good to cash in on it. Nevertheless, now the same terrorism exists at the level of the Stone Age, where nude clowns scare people and blow up houses, instead of doing real and large-scale damage, destroying infrastructure and key enterprises. Such selectivity can only speak of puppet terrorist organizations.
  8. +2
    12 July 2018 09: 55
    Tanks, missiles, ships - the more of them are in a combat-ready state, the more I will sleep more calmly! There are no decent salaries, pensions, work, but can I sleep peacefully? Here is Mars, the Moon is violet to me, while in our country people will not live with dignity, space is needed for security and only for security, everything else is show off!
    The bottom of the ocean, like the island of Monte Crista,
    like a star in space, there is wealth for the people
    Enough for three hundred years, and maybe forever.
    1. +3
      12 July 2018 17: 07
      I don’t know if they had pensions and salaries and a sandwich with butter and sausage

      But the Cannons, Tanks and Rifles were not enough for them. So what do you choose "sandwich" or "tank"?
    2. +3
      12 July 2018 17: 20
      Interesting. You decided to suffer because of military spending on the defense industry on a forum site dedicated to military topics. Nothing messed up? :)
      1. +1
        13 July 2018 10: 49
        Quote: Blackgrifon
        Blackgrifon (Alexander) Yesterday, 17:20 ↑
        Interesting. You decided to suffer because of military spending on the defense industry on a forum site dedicated to military topics. Nothing messed up? :)

        Maybe he is talking about the military doctrine of the Russian Federation? The reasonableness and sufficiency of military spending does not mean thoughtlessly inflating the military budget. Something I did not hear from the lips of our leadership of a coherent strategy, neither in the military, nor in the financial, nor in the social spheres, nor in other other spheres of the state.
        1. +1
          13 July 2018 18: 32
          Quote: Dumb
          Something I did not hear from the lips of our leadership of a coherent strategy, neither in the military, nor in the financial, nor in the social spheres, nor in other other spheres of the state.

          If you can argue with you on the social and military commissar, then in the case of the financial sphere - a carcass. But this is a topic for a separate conversation in Ph.D. "economic" branch :)
          1. +1
            13 July 2018 20: 36
            Quote: Blackgrifon
            If you can argue with you on the social and military commissar, then in the case of the financial sphere - a carcass. But this is a topic for a separate conversation in Ph.D. "economic" branch :)

            So in the financial sphere one can argue. We do not exchange in kind? There is no control and accounting in all areas of the state. The embezzlement and nepotism destroyed the budget. The redistribution of goods and the tax burden delimited the population of the Russian Federation into "boyars" and serfs (this was already sore enough). The military doctrine of the time of Serdyukov was sharpened by local military conflicts. Did not see a clear doctrine in the present. Maybe tell me, with what probable adversary does our state plan possible military clashes and on which theater of operations? What are the necessary resources for such clashes? There is no intelligible policy, but a continuous shy away from aircraft carriers to robots. If we need an aircraft carrier group, then it cannot only include an aircraft carrier, if robots are needed, what types of weapons will they replace and where? The adoption of 2 types of automatic weapons for the Warrior is an unprecedented luxury even for the USSR. There is a lot of slurred both in the manual itself and in its politics. It seems that all decisions are made during their mass drinking bout. wassat
            1. +1
              14 July 2018 02: 38
              Quote: Dumb
              The embezzlement and nepotism destroyed the budget. Redistribution of goods and tax burden delimited the population of Russia on the "boyars" and serfs

              You write like it’s something bad.
              Quote: Dumb
              It seems that all decisions are made during their mass drinking bout

              No, it’s unlikely. Rather, decision-makers have control parameters of effectiveness unknown to you.
  9. 0
    12 July 2018 11: 11
    In the tank battalion of the motorized rifle regiment (brigade), there are 40 tanks. 3 companies of three platoons each. Each platoon has 4 tanks plus a company commander tank. Total in the company 13 tanks. In three companies, 39 plus a battalion tank. Only 40. In the tank battalion of the tank regiment (brigade) there are 31 tanks (in platoons of 3 tanks).
  10. 0
    12 July 2018 11: 34
    This is a lot, considering that even the United States has an army
    Especially courteous that in the United States this Mexico is the only ground threat, well, in general it doesn’t ... But the author modestly kept silent about the number of tanks in the Chinese army, and also forgot about the EU with NATO bases
    1. +2
      12 July 2018 11: 49
      Quote: spektr9
      But the author modestly kept silent about the number of tanks in the Chinese army

      Are we going to fight with China?
      1. +2
        12 July 2018 12: 11
        Yes, no matter how we are not going to. But they may not ask us. There is also Japan, South Korea is also far from a peace-loving state.

        In theory, thousands of tanks should be in warehouses in the Far East, moreover, timely upgraded to the current level, and tens of thousands of other equipment.
        In case of war, it is easier to transfer only l / s, and take the equipment in place. The battalion can be deployed by two IL-76s, a brigade of 7-8-9 sides. But if the brigade is transported by train, it is a minimum of 10 echelons, plus ammunition. The Trans-Siberian Railway is not enough for an urgent transfer of the army. The Northern Sea Route simply does not have enough icebreakers. And with a sudden escalation of any conflict, we’ll get our feet in fat.
        1. 0
          12 July 2018 19: 40
          No one will throw anything. Thousands of tanks will not be kept there either. Since Soviet times, all major cities there have been called suicide bombers.
        2. 0
          13 July 2018 20: 41
          Quote: demiurg
          In theory, thousands of tanks should be in warehouses in the Far East, moreover, timely upgraded to the current level, and tens of thousands of other equipment.

          Is the storage cost justified by the Military Doctrine? How many tanks, in accordance with it, is necessary for the Russian Federation and for what? What modifications need to be saved, how and where can and should they be applied?
        3. 0
          16 October 2018 21: 13
          The right thought. Tanks need to be placed where necessary and in the right quantity and quality, under the guard and operation of personnel for 1/3 of the staff - like there are 10 tanks in the company, and only 3-5 crews, including the comrot, are used for training and maintenance . Reserve tanks - for crews deployed as needed. Those. in total, 5000 tanks should be in service in the Ground Forces, and 10000 should be in linear working parks, and withdrawn from them only on alert by cash working crews. And remain under guard until the arrival of the crews transferred, calculated - up to 24 hours.
      2. +3
        12 July 2018 13: 05
        Are we going to fight with China?

        We are not going with anyone, and well, based on your logic, do we not need tanks at all?
        1. 0
          13 July 2018 20: 44
          Quote: spektr9
          We are not going with anyone, and well, based on your logic, do we not need tanks at all?

          No one says they are not needed. How much is needed and which tanks are needed? What are the upcoming events?
    2. 0
      12 July 2018 18: 03
      Not just Mexico. Their Alaska is quite close to our Chukotka. And we have icebreakers if that. With good air defense it will be possible to get to Alaska without any problems.
      1. +2
        12 July 2018 21: 46
        Quote: Nizhlogger
        With good air defense it will be possible to get to Alaska without any problems.

        In the USA, illegal immigrants are not very comfortable right now.
    3. 0
      10 September 2018 23: 55
      This is Mexico and it is necessary to help California and Texas conquer ... Viva Villa!
  11. 0
    12 July 2018 12: 04
    everything basically corresponds to the information posted on public sites example-http: //milkavkaz.com/index.php
    albeit an enemy, but informative))))
  12. 0
    12 July 2018 12: 12
    And at the battalion level there were 122-mm self-propelled guns 2С1


    These are some particularly cruel battalions. X)

    T-90A EMNIPs were also produced in the 2000s so that half a hundred of such machines, given that something had gone to Syria, could have been drowned by 20 years ago in their native swamp near Moscow, looks quite real. T-62 removed from service after the war in South Ossetia, where 1 such a tank was lost, and they apparently remembered that they were in the army.
  13. +2
    12 July 2018 12: 31
    It's good that we counted our tanks. And now we consider the tanks and their class as the enemy. And nervously swallow tears. Accustomed to watch what we have. Do not forget that the enemy does not sleep, and does not breed corruption and embezzlement. By the way, there are no videos on the net about inflatable RCs and plywood tanks for a potential enemy. Coincidence?
    1. +4
      12 July 2018 12: 36
      Quote: agribkov79
      By the way, there are no videos on the net about inflatable RCs and plywood tanks for a potential enemy.

      And what do you think? Do you understand what layouts are used for?
      Quote: agribkov79
      And now we consider the tanks and their class as the enemy. And nervously swallow tears.

      Swallow. Explicitly see a person who has little understanding in this matter.
      Quote: agribkov79
      Do not forget that the enemy does not sleep, and does not breed corruption and embezzlement.

      Tell it at the State Department, McCain faints with your confidence.
  14. +5
    12 July 2018 12: 44
    The last tank battles of the level of Prokhorovka took place in the second third of the last century in the Middle East theater of war. They clearly showed that the matter is not in the number of tanks, but in who and how controls and controls them.
    Since then much water has flowed under the bridge. The era of tank fists, breakthroughs and reach has sunk into oblivion. Changed strategy and tactics of tank battles. And it became cramped in the world. Today, quietly concentrating at least half a thousand tanks for an extensive offensive was very problematic, but to destroy them from a fairly decent distance was not at all difficult. hi
    1. +2
      12 July 2018 15: 26
      Medieval knightly armor also seemed to be a thing of the past, but then revived in a new form, like body armor, helmets and other means of protection. Perhaps the tanks are still useful, albeit in a very modified form.
    2. +3
      12 July 2018 15: 58
      How I hate those who smartly write banal nonsense.

      Go, command a hundred M60 against 1000 T-90.
      1. 0
        12 July 2018 21: 50
        Quote: EvilLion
        Go, command a hundred M60 against 1000 T-90.

        You see, the battle against an enemy superior in the number of tanks was seriously worked out in the 80s. And since then, several times run in real life. Not M60 vs. T-90, of course, but Abrashi vs. T-72.
  15. 0
    12 July 2018 12: 48
    It looks like we have more tanks than people
    1. 0
      12 July 2018 15: 27
      And why such a conclusion?
      1. 0
        12 July 2018 19: 59
        You literally took my comment?
  16. 0
    12 July 2018 12: 59
    Thanks, interesting.
  17. 0
    12 July 2018 13: 04
    Great article. A lot of numbers. All clear (!)
    1. 0
      12 July 2018 16: 44
      There were no 4-company infantry fire fighting squad, there were 4 tank platoons.
  18. 0
    12 July 2018 16: 39
    The number of tanks depends on many factors. Starting from the length of borders and neighbors, ending with a possible military potential and possible alliances of the same neighbors and so on.
  19. 0
    12 July 2018 19: 40
    For information. The 27th Omsbr battalion, which includes three tank companies.
  20. 0
    12 July 2018 21: 07
    in view of the geography of its permanent deployment

    In view of its combat mission!
  21. 0
    14 July 2018 00: 37
    30-30-30. Add Macedonia - very scary Russia. After the addition of Montenegro, she got scared and built a bridge!
  22. 0
    14 July 2018 12: 57
    Do not forget about one more thing. To date, in the United States, tanks do not seem to be produced. In Europe - if they produce, then quite a bit. That is, it will be very difficult to fully compensate for losses in the event of war.
    Again, do not forget about the problems of logistics. Tanks are not enough to do, they still need to be delivered to the battlefield. This is especially true of the United States, if they will not fight on their territory.
    Well and the third - frames. There is no them, cooking is expensive, but no one wants to fight, feeling that you will die. Therefore, the combat readiness of the NATO armies is rather arbitrary and limited. We are also limited, but the mobilization potential is much more efficient.
    1. +1
      14 July 2018 19: 32
      Quote: Cannonball
      Therefore, the combat readiness of NATO armies is rather arbitrary and limited.

      This was said last time under Saddam.
      Before that, the samurai loved to push about the low morale of the Americans.
      1. 0
        14 July 2018 21: 32
        Do not compare the Saddam warriors with our army. Remember the airfield in Pristina - the company of our paratroopers against all of NATO. And NATO drifted.
        In Syria, the same garbage.
        I'm not talking about Donald Cook.
        1. +1
          15 July 2018 09: 12
          Quote: Cannonball
          In Syria, the same garbage.

          Yes there was recently an example with an attack ..
          Quote: Cannonball
          I'm not talking about Donald Cook.

          great example ...
          true information war or not .. just a fake.
          The author forgets the size of the country .. although maybe there is teleportation in the Russian Federation and all tanks can be concentrated in one place in a short time while being invisible from the enemy ..
          here all have phones with Internet access ... you can’t call all the fakes.
          1. 0
            15 July 2018 09: 59
            You have all the fake. And Donbass fake, and Ukraine, it seems, too. Only the brave NATO guys are not fake.
            1. +1
              15 July 2018 11: 17
              Quote: Cannonball
              Do not compare the Saddam warriors with our army.

              You're right. It seems that there were no license plate graves of their own soldiers behind Saddam. Although I do not really know his achievements.
              Quote: Cannonball
              drifted NATO.

              Rather, they were surprised. They did not even call the IMF, cut the solder. Saints were people, whatever you say.
              Quote: Cannonball
              In Syria, the same garbage.

              Oh yes, literally in February there was a story.
              Quote: Cannonball
              I'm not talking about Donald Cook.

              And what happened to him? Is it worth it in Constanta without a team?
              1. 0
                15 July 2018 11: 30
                Have you seen the license plate graves? Do you know who is "buried" there?

                What story was in February? If our mercenaries died there, then what does this have to do with the Russian army?
                But the feats of Russian soldiers, officers, pilots in Syria, who sacrificed their lives for peace on Syrian soil, are directly related.

                I don’t know where Donald Cook is standing right now, but you won’t deny the fact of the massive write-off to the shore?

                No need to say "surprised."
                Although the commander of NATO forces in Europe, American General Wesley Clark ordered British General Michael Jackson to seize the airfield before the Russians, the British replied that he was not going to start the third world war.
                Subsequently, the famous British singer James Blunt, who served in the NATO group in 1999, testified to the order of General Clark to recapture the airfield from Russian paratroopers. Blunt said that he would not shoot at Russians even under the threat of a tribunal. In addition, Blunt said:

                “About 200 Russians settled down at the airport ... Direct order of General Wesley Clark was to“ crush them. ” Clark used unusual expressions for us. For example, “destroy”. There were political reasons for the capture of the airfield. But a practical consequence would be an attack on the Russians. ”

                In the end, the commander of the British Balkan group, Michael Jackson, said that "he will not allow his soldiers to unleash a third world war." He gave the command "instead of attack, surround the airfield."

                The stump is clear, the British general had the mind not to get involved in a fight, unlike the American.
                1. 0
                  15 July 2018 12: 46
                  Quote: Cannonball
                  The stump is clear, the British general had the mind not to get involved in a fight, unlike the American.

                  People who kill unarmed demonstrators in their own country tend to be extremely peaceful when they see armed men abroad. Another thing is that such officers should be shot on time before the formation.
                  I say, saints were people at the helm in the 97th year. Fortunately, they were.
                  Quote: Cannonball
                  I don’t know where Donald Cook is standing right now, but you won’t deny the fact of the massive write-off to the shore?

                  "Fact"?
                  Quote: Cannonball
                  Have you seen the license plate graves? Do you know who is "buried" there?
                  What story was in February? If our mercenaries died there, then what does this have to do with the Russian army?

                  Really. These matters have nothing to do with the Russian army.
                  Quote: Cannonball
                  who sacrificed their lives for peace on Syrian soil.

                  Reduce pathos. It has not been a long time since peace with this land.
                  1. 0
                    15 July 2018 13: 06
                    Quote: Cherry Nine
                    People who kill unarmed demonstrators in their country

                    Are you talking about Ferguson? wink
                    Another thing is that such officers should be shot on time before the formation.
                    How many US Army and police officers were shot?
                    "Fact"?
                    Have CNN get interested.
                    Really. These matters have nothing to do with the Russian army
                    Finally found consensus.
                    Quote: Cherry Nine
                    Reduce pathos. It has not been a long time since peace with this land.
                    About pathos is to the Americans. And "did not ask" also thanks to them. soldier
                    1. 0
                      15 July 2018 14: 03
                      Quote: Cannonball
                      Are you talking about Ferguson?

                      I'm talking about the captain at the time, Michael D. Jackson, Derry, Northern Ireland, the 72nd year.
                      Quote: Cannonball
                      How many US Army and police officers were shot?

                      With reference to the 97th year - at least one less than necessary. And it was an Englishman, not an American.
                      Quote: Cannonball
                      CNN have some fun

                      This nonsense was invented by a certain Dmitry Sedov, a “political scientist, publicist,” and Russia spread 1.
                      https://www.fondsk.ru/news/2014/04/17/etot-proklj
                      atyj-russkij-metallolom-27063.html
                      https://medium.com/dfrlab/russias-fake-electronic
                      -bomb-4ce9dbbc57f8
                      About pathos is to the Americans. And "did not ask" also thanks to them.

                      In these places, they genocide each other when there were no Americans in the project.
                      1. 0
                        15 July 2018 15: 06
                        This nonsense was invented by a certain Dmitry Sedov, a “political scientist, publicist,” and Russia spread 1.
                        Come on wink
                        Only now the “first signs” of the Black Sea incident appeared a few days before the appearance of the article by the aforementioned Mr. Sedov. So he can not be the author of "this nonsense".
                        Next time, argue for less clumsy "trump cards."

                        For example, an article from the site http://prgazeta.ru dated 16.04.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX !!!

                        http://prgazeta.ru/main/1840-vvs-rossii-v-chernom
                        -more-ispytali-na-americancah-novyy-kompleks-radi
                        oelektronnoy-borby.html

                        Or from the site https://rua.gr/ of the same date

                        https://rua.gr/news/sobmn/11533-khibiny-protiv-id
                        zhis-ili-chto-tak-silno-ispugalo-pentagon.html
                      2. 0
                        15 July 2018 20: 17
                        Quote: Cannonball
                        Only now the “first signs” of the Black Sea incident appeared a few days before the appearance of the article by the aforementioned Mr. Sedov.

                        Yes, you are right about that. I forgot that story. Original source https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/48815/
                        At the second link you provided, this text is, but without indicating the source. Quickly worked.
            2. 0
              15 July 2018 22: 35
              Quote: Cannonball
              You have all the fake. And Donbass fake, and Ukraine, it seems, too. Only the brave NATO guys are not fake.

              It was a secret about
              Syria (moment with an attack on the factory)
              Donald Cook-with the Khibiny, a famous and hyped fake who has already taken root in VO. Although they are strongly trying to get rid of it. Hatchery is not good.
              1. 0
                16 July 2018 19: 55
                What does the attack on the plant have to do with the Russian Army?
                Fake is not Donald Cook with the Khibiny, but a duck, that is a fake. wink
        2. 0
          11 September 2018 09: 23
          I'm sorry, but there is no confirmation of the "frightened Cook command" from the "other" side. On the contrary, in the comments to this article in English https://www.quora.com/What-really-did-happen-to-the-USS-Donald-Cook-in-the-Black-Sea-in-2014 you can find the remarks of a sailor from "Cook", who writes that "the sea is boring" and this incident amused them. As for the suppression of the Aegis Khibiny, then
          American sailors commenting on this deny this, saying that in principle it is impossible in view of the difference in the electronic capabilities of the ship and the aircraft. They write "we know not only when this" drying "took off and fell on our course, but also how many rubles are in the pilot's pocket". "We could have brought it down at any moment, but we did not see the threat, since the harnesses only had an EW container." But they confirm the reluctance of the American command to bring the matter to a military clash. They are afraid of Russia. And the Su-24 is not.
      2. +1
        16 July 2018 13: 49
        So do not compare the American army of the 40s with the current bare-chested mercenaries in military uniform. Those guys from the 40s were brutal conscripts who with scabies in the scrotum through the jungle pearl. In terms of rage, the samurai were not inferior. Plus, the ethnic composition of the then US Army was completely different. With the addition of firepower and reasonable command (after full of cones), the samurai did not shine anything. After Vietnam, talking about the "American morale" to talk became bad manners. And separate units of different "seals" are not the army, not the armed forces. Bombing from above, hiding from below, driving crowds of Iraqis betrayed by their own generals - this is a very "narrow-profile" war.
        1. 0
          16 July 2018 20: 58
          Quote: andrew42
          So do not compare the American army of the 40s with the current bare-chested mercenaries in military uniform.

          In the 41st, the States could not even dream of the current millionth fully professional army. Draftees fought with 4-month training. The same sergeants. The same officers.
          And mercenaries in military uniform, with 4-8 year contracts, are right here very well. Few people can afford.
          Quote: andrew42
          After Vietnam, talking about the "American morale" to talk became bad manners.

          The first time I hear that there were questions about fighting spirit in Vietnam. Incidentally, there were also conscripts with dermatological problems. There seemed to be claims of the opposite plan, about excessive brutality. Or are you talking about the spirit that pulled from Woodstock?
  23. +1
    16 July 2018 16: 19
    There are several inaccuracies in the article, or it is very old. In particular, regarding the 201st base, it has a brigade base and has no regiments for a long time. The number of tanks has not changed, though there used to be tank companies in the regiments, and now the tank battalion in the brigade. no, there are four motorized rifle brigades at its base, and there are no tanks in the 42th brigade, it’s light, located in the Shatoi district of Chechnya. I don’t know if the total number of tanks has changed after the reform. According to the Marine Corps, I think that the tank battalions are already practically formed of all brigades, at least there is an active recruitment of contractors for the positions of mechanized guides and gunners of the T-8 and T-80 tanks. As to the North and the Far East, the MP did not see such announcements in the Kaliningrad brigade.
  24. +1
    18 July 2018 07: 25
    There will be enough tanks for all as well as machine guns, the main thing is to rivet ammunition.
  25. 0
    9 August 2023 15: 10
    At the Cuban Museum, under the leadership of the RF Ministry of Defense, create a Amusing Division (scientific research and historical). In this tank division, each battalion is armed with "its own" tank. Including imported / trophy.

    T - 55 to return to service 41 tanks (battalion) for parades, filming and preserving traditions in Poteshnaya TD. The rest of the tanks will be upgraded and sold to Africa.


    T - 62 to return to service 41 tanks (battalion) for parades, filming and preserving traditions in Poteshnaya TD. The rest of the tanks will be modernized and put into service with the National Guard.


    T - 80 to leave in service 41 tanks (battalion) for parades, filming and preserving traditions in Poteshnaya TD. Modernize all the rest and create a tank army from them, as well as equip all units and subunits in the created Northern Military District with them. Approximately the remaining thousand of these tanks must be divided into mobilization bases with high-quality storage and care for the Northern Military District.

    T-90 old modernize. It is necessary to equip the ZVO with this tank and also equip all the centers of the mob reserve for this district with these tanks.

    T - 14. These tanks should be used to form units of the Central Military District to replace the 72s. This district should have a zone of responsibility for Central Asia and be a reserve for the rest.

    Also, the Central Military District should be divided into the Central Military District itself and the Siberian Military District.
    The NVO should become a reserve for the VVO, and China should become its area of ​​responsibility. Teznika T - 72

    T - 72 is subject to total modernization. They are to equip the Southern Military District and also equip all the centers of the mob reserve for this district with these tanks.

    T - 72 to equip the VVO and also to equip all the centers of the mob reserve for this district with these tanks.

    Each VO must have a TA.
    Each VO must have a TA base for the transferred l / s from another district and a storage base for 1 division (replenishment of losses)
    All bases, warehouses and parking lots must be carefully inspected.
    The remaining surplus T - 72s are subject to conversion into BMPTs and heavy infantry fighting vehicles. Hulls, engines, towers beyond repair are subject to disposal. What can be repaired is sent to storage warehouses.
    Alternatively, part of the towers can be installed on concrete boxes with a generator, which, if necessary, can be dug up to the tower itself on 2-3 lines of defense.

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