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Indian tender fighter. KLA proposed MiG-35

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The Indian Air Force needs new aircraft. Several leading aircraft manufacturers, including the Russian United Aircraft Building Corporation (KLA), responded to the Indian proposal to participate in the tender for the supply of 110 fighter aircraft in the number of pieces, according to Business Standard.


Indian tender fighter. KLA proposed MiG-35


As the newspaper writes, the Indian offer, which expired on 6 on July 2017 of the year, was answered by six companies that offered the following fighter models to the Indian Air Force: Russian MiG-35, American F / A-18, European Eurofighter Typhoon, French Rafale, American F -16 Fighting Falcon and Swedish Gripen E. At the same time, the first four models are twin-engine fighters, and the F-16 and Gripen E are single-engine fighters.

At the first stage of the "fighter competition", which can last up to six months, the Indian side will consider all the proposals, after which it will determine three or four fighter models, among which the choice will be made. The winning company, under the terms of the competition, must supply the Indian Air Force 17 fully combat-ready fighters, and the rest 93 must be built in India under license. In addition, the winner of the tender should be responsible for the training of pilots and technical staff.

The cost of the contract is estimated from $ 9,7 billion to $ 19,4 billion - depending on which aircraft will be preferred, reports TASS
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  1. Fungus
    Fungus 7 July 2018 14: 48
    +2
    Must buy
    1. MPN
      MPN 7 July 2018 14: 54
      +13
      India record holder for tenders ... recourse
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 7 July 2018 17: 29
        +1
        The second series of "Raphael", but time is already propping up
        1. cniza
          cniza 7 July 2018 17: 44
          0
          Quote: MPN
          India record holder for tenders ... recourse


          Not just a record holder, but also a very picky and scandalous buyer, but they pay fairly.
          1. ALEXXX1983
            ALEXXX1983 7 July 2018 17: 58
            0
            Quote: cniza
            Quote: MPN
            India record holder for tenders ... recourse


            Not just a record holder, but also a very picky and scandalous buyer, but they pay fairly.

            Yeah. The next series of Indian cinema with dancing around airplanes has begun. In the last series, MiG refused to recognize as a lost relative at the very beginning.
    2. d ^ Amir
      d ^ Amir 7 July 2018 14: 57
      +2
      they and Rafali french should have ...
    3. Sergey39
      Sergey39 7 July 2018 15: 03
      +1
      One way or another, they will buy MIGs anyway.
    4. Bar1
      Bar1 7 July 2018 15: 18
      +10
      history doesn’t teach us anything, it’s the second time they’re stepping on the same rake in order to sell a plane, you need to take it and run it in your troops, but we don’t have all the money, but you hold on.
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion 8 July 2018 13: 55
        0
        Su-30MKI Indians vparil when it was not there.
    5. Zubr
      Zubr 7 July 2018 17: 12
      +2
      laughing The coolest comment I read here .. smile In general, India behaves like a wench. Almost the entire infrastructure is imprisoned for MIG and SU ... smile Booty then you need to twist it? smile
      1. cniza
        cniza 7 July 2018 18: 39
        +1
        Well, as without songs and dances ...
      2. Turist1996
        Turist1996 7 July 2018 20: 04
        +1
        Of course, I’m not an artilleryman, but the "jumps" of the Indians around the howitzer during the demonstration performances went to the "Hurray" with all of my military friends ..
        1. Zubr
          Zubr 7 July 2018 20: 17
          +2
          Yes, it turned out very cool for them .. smile Imagine what kind of training you need to have in order to arrange such “jumps”, and even in such heat ...
          A change of guard on the border with Pakistan .....? smile


          smile
    6. Hole puncher
      Hole puncher 7 July 2018 18: 25
      +4
      Quote: Fungus
      Must buy

      This is to whom they owe something? MiG35 in the list of applicants is the most sloppy.
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      2. Turist1996
        Turist1996 7 July 2018 20: 00
        0
        Eh, and everyone else, as it turned out, is not in the know ..
      3. EvilLion
        EvilLion 8 July 2018 13: 56
        0
        Justify weakly?
    7. Sarmat Sanych
      Sarmat Sanych 7 July 2018 18: 35
      +1
      Given the fact that the MiG-35 is the most maneuverable among all competitors, with the best weapons and much cheaper than each of them - we can quite win.
      1. Hole puncher
        Hole puncher 7 July 2018 18: 39
        +2
        Quote: Sarmat Sanych
        Given the fact that the MiG-35 is the most maneuverable among all competitors, with the best weapons

        In your opinion only, the Indians of fantasy do not take into account, they look at the real characteristics.
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 7 July 2018 19: 05
          +1
          Quote: Puncher
          In your opinion only, the Indians of fantasy do not take into account, they look at the real characteristics.

          Well, the maneuverability of the MiG-35 is definitely better than everyone, but about the electronics it’s not known, here we just don’t know what it is offered with
          1. Sarmat Sanych
            Sarmat Sanych 7 July 2018 19: 26
            0
            Andrei, in electronics we are lagging behind in electronics from F / A-18 and F-16, but I think it’s uncritical for Indians to choose them (taking into account our above-mentioned advantages).
          2. Hole puncher
            Hole puncher 7 July 2018 21: 21
            +2
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            Well, the maneuverability of the MiG-35 is definitely better than anyone

            Subject to the presence of UVT, but it is not claimed. RD33 already has a low resource, and with UVT (if used, but why should it not be used), it will generally roll to a meager.
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            and about electronics - it’s not known, here we just don’t know what it is offered with

            Given the age of the MiG35, the electronics on it are of the level of the late 90s and it simply can not compete with the F16 block70 and Grippen NG.
            1. EvilLion
              EvilLion 8 July 2018 13: 59
              +1
              Considering that since the end of the 90s, electronics can be changed times 3, it is surprising your misunderstanding of this simple fact. And in the 90s, no MiG-35 even by designation existed.

              About RD-33 neighing. No one has complained so far. Old versions, however, smoked on the afterburner, but they give traction atrocious.
            2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
              Andrei from Chelyabinsk 9 July 2018 18: 25
              0
              Quote: Puncher
              Subject to the presence of UVT, but it is not claimed.

              Without UVT, too.
              Quote: Puncher
              Given the age of the MiG35, the electronics on it are of the level of the late 90s

              Eugene, you are ... Do not scare me like that :))))) The MiG-35 is a modification of the MiG-29K / KR with advanced electronics :)))) That is, in the 90s the MiG-29M and MiG-29K based on it, then for the Indians and for their money they made the MiG-29K with new electronics. On its basis, the MiG-29KR was made for Kuznetsov - again with some improvements. And on its basis - the MiG-35
        2. Sarmat Sanych
          Sarmat Sanych 7 July 2018 19: 23
          +1
          More importantly, your fantasies, the Hole Puncher, are not taken into account even on the VO website, and what I have indicated is true.
  2. d ^ Amir
    d ^ Amir 7 July 2018 14: 56
    0
    is it already instead of Rafaley?!?!?! or together?!?!? and with the Rafals then what ????!?! m-dya ..... West is West, East is East .....
    1. Hole puncher
      Hole puncher 7 July 2018 18: 23
      +1
      Quote: d ^ Amir
      is it already instead of Rafaley?!?!?!

      Instead of MiG21 and Jaguar
      Quote: d ^ Amir
      and with the Rafals then what ????!?!

      All OK
      1. tomket
        tomket 8 July 2018 01: 20
        0
        Quote: Puncher
        All OK


        There is such a moment. For Hindus, technology transfer and localization of production is now a priority. “Rafal” is likely to initially fly.
        Eurofighter, most likely too. Of the Europeans, the only ones who can accommodate and transmit are the Swedes. But the "Grippen" is not very interesting as a plane. Perhaps the Americans would have won, but ... Firstly, the Hindus are not particularly needed by f-16. Perhaps, of course, Boeing, but the Americans will not share technology, except for the fuselage assembly, and this is at odds with Trump's policy of “buy in the USA.” So, the MiG remains.
        1. Hole puncher
          Hole puncher 8 July 2018 06: 53
          +2
          Quote: tomket
          In the first f-16 Indians are not particularly needed. Perhaps of course the Boeing, but the Americans will not share technology, unless the assembly of the fuselage

          Boeing has nothing to do with F16, it is an LM machine, and they suggested that the Indians transfer the entire production line and the support of ALL F16 to them. Modification block70 is the most advanced and among the applicants one of the best. LM offer is the most attractive for Indians.
          1. tomket
            tomket 8 July 2018 15: 18
            0
            Quote: Puncher
            Boeing has nothing to do with F16, it is an LM machine, and they suggested that the Indians transfer the entire production line and the support of ALL F16 to them. Modification block70 is the most advanced and among the applicants one of the best. LM offer is the most attractive for Indians.

            Thank you very much for telling me that F-16 is Lockheed. It is necessary))))) And I did not know))))))))))))))) Well, I will point out to you once again that no one will pass the key technologies (almost from F-35) to Hindus, and the Trump bolt, and not the production line, will be given to the Indians. It is tempting for Lockheed, and the Indians are so-so.
  3. maxim1987
    maxim1987 7 July 2018 14: 58
    +7
    The cost of the contract is estimated from $ 9,7 billion to $ 19,4 billion - depending on which aircraft will be preferred, reports TASS

    fig yourself "fork" belay
    1. crest
      crest 7 July 2018 15: 32
      +1
      Either the Russian MiG, or at the price the same “Gripen”, or something European, but the “Rafiki” do not pass into this price. In general, the Indians allowed twin-engine fighters after our proposal, because it can be exported in a very cool configuration (AFAR, OVT). Plus, the Hindus want to upgrade their “ships”, approximately to the level of the MiG-35 (equipment). From heavy they refused initially. so the tender is now tuned for the MiG-35, they are satisfied with the price and quality, especially after the Egypt bought the MiG-29M (M2). We have a service center there all the more. Well, if he goes with AFAR and OVT, he will not be equal.
      Only now I want to see it in such a cool configuration in our parts. And most importantly, his flying hour at the level of European aircraft, and this is a very important thing. Although it is India and everything can change overnight, as we already know. We need lobbying at the highest level, or we can lose this market. They refuse from the T-50, but what is not forever. They refused the last batch of Su-30MKI kits (in the amount of either 20, or 40 pieces), so it would be inexcusable to lose a niche there and light (medium) fighters.
      1. Vard
        Vard 7 July 2018 16: 44
        +2
        Offer airplanes to China and Pakistan ... Best marketing move ...
        1. Hole puncher
          Hole puncher 7 July 2018 18: 35
          +1
          Quote: Vard
          Offer airplanes to China and Pakistan ... Best marketing move ...

          And why the Chinese, they have better, J-10B, the packs, too.
          1. Sarmat Sanych
            Sarmat Sanych 7 July 2018 19: 40
            +1
            J-10B is better than MiG-35 laughing? Galimozny single-engine rubbish with WS-10A - a weak copy of the Russian engine? Already I am silent about in all respects inferior weapons, speed, range, etc. I only conditionally agree with one thing - you cannot sell MiGs to Chinese people, but Pakistan, in the presence of money and our desire, will definitely buy them. Even in addition to the available J-10A.
            1. Hole puncher
              Hole puncher 7 July 2018 20: 56
              +2
              Slop RD33 with a penny resource suddenly became better than AL41? Why's that?
              Radar with AFAR worse slot Doppler?
              And what kind of MiG35 superweapon are you talking about? Name at least which hanging aiming containers he uses, probably "none"?
              MiG35 with its combat load 4 tons of fuck nobody needs.
              1. EvilLion
                EvilLion 8 July 2018 14: 03
                +1
                The Chinese still can not make a normal radar, what else nafig radar with AFAR. For them, PFAR on Su-35 is an opportunity to touch the sublime.

                Yes, and AFAR, even for those who know how to do, is not the simplest product.
              2. tomket
                tomket 8 July 2018 15: 20
                0
                Quote: Puncher
                MiG35 with its combat load 4 tons of fuck nobody needs.

                It's nice to read such an "expert" as you)))) Cheer up by your "advanced posts")))))))
          2. EvilLion
            EvilLion 8 July 2018 14: 01
            +1
            About J-10B made fun. At least someone in the world bought it? And then it is so interesting in it? That it is made in the fashion of 80's?
      2. Yarhann
        Yarhann 7 July 2018 17: 29
        +1
        Indians are all trying to poke at least learn to assemble modern aircraft. something tells me even if they take a moment of 35 or F18 (it seems to me more likely) they will collect the same booty and also thump as the su30MKI. Airplanes are not for Hindus, as well as helicopters - after all, they will collect Apaches and they will also be used to sack them. They need to develop ground forces, mobile missile systems, etc., and so on, and the sky is not about Indians.
        1. Hole puncher
          Hole puncher 7 July 2018 21: 34
          +2
          Quote: Yarhann
          heaven is not about Indians.

          So you ordered them a sentence, why are you making such a conclusion?
          1. Yarhann
            Yarhann 7 July 2018 23: 16
            0
            broken su 30 MKI in the amount of 9 pieces (just one ditched earlier) speaks for itself.
            And the fact that the Govnodelov Indians is no secret to anyone who is familiar with their creation in the face of windows 10. And it doesn’t matter whether they work in their homeland or in the states - it will always work. The only thing that Indians can do well is to multiply.
            They also had our older aircraft in service and they constantly crashed - so those aircraft are much simpler than modern IFIs. One thing is good that they ceased to cooperate with them in terms of developing a 5th generation aircraft - although most likely it was a banal sale of glass beads to the Papuans - they still do not understand what they mean.
            They should not be engaged in armaments but in the development of education on the basis of soviet principles - because among a billion you can pick up such nuggets - that there will be an opportunity not only to engage in cleaning, but to advance the aerospace industry by leaps and bounds. And so when you learn from other people's textbooks you will always be lagging behind - you need to create your own and with such a population it is quite possible.
            1. EvilLion
              EvilLion 8 July 2018 14: 04
              0
              Where is 9? Half a dozen, sort of.

              They have nothing to occupy the population.
              1. Yarhann
                Yarhann 8 July 2018 16: 05
                -1
                I did not lie 8m last last week. Yes, they constantly have planes hovering there, then drying, then instantly - but mostly old planes are falling. I looked at the statistics on old planes - they also fall regularly in Europe. BUT it is the old planes - that is, where the resource is exhausted, and the repair is often not up to the mark. The fact is that they collect new drying themselves and rivets the spare parts themselves — that is, they must know the machine as flaky and technicians in the same way — but still they wipe them. 30.04.2009/13.11.2009/13.12.2011, 19.02.2013/14.10.2014/19.05.2015, 15.03.2017/27/XNUMX, XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX, XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX, XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX, XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX and June XNUMX, the last one fell during the tests and the transfer to the Air Force was being prepared.
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 7 July 2018 15: 01
    +3
    Gypsy should be offered ONLY horses laughing In all the rest, they ... Doubt it.
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 7 July 2018 15: 06
      +2
      their horses are not particularly respected ... if only an elephant with a cow ...
  5. Samara_63
    Samara_63 7 July 2018 15: 08
    0
    Something a lot. Pakistan is not stealing ...
  6. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 7 July 2018 15: 10
    +1
    Yes, it would be very good if India chose the Mig-35 ...
  7. krops777
    krops777 7 July 2018 15: 14
    +1
    You will understand the Hindus of these figs, it is not known which chakra will open. wink
  8. APASUS
    APASUS 7 July 2018 15: 24
    0
    What is the tender on the account? Again, during the bidding conditions will change? In the Indian history of procurement, too much depends on specific individuals, here from here are constant scandals with corruption, illogical purchases and very strange preferences.
  9. midshipman
    midshipman 7 July 2018 15: 28
    +2
    Preferences for the RF are great. Two aircraft carriers in India have our aircraft. All airfields are also equipped with Russian navigation systems (RSBN) and landing systems (PRMG). We began to be friends with India with the MiG-23. Then I had to be there often. Helped in their production. And they will prepare pilots for Su035 in Vladimirovka. This has been done before. Good luck to you, UAC.
  10. aleksandrs95
    aleksandrs95 7 July 2018 15: 55
    0
    everything is very foggy and not obvious, there may not be a direct sober logic. And our MiGs are not at all a fact that they will win. At the top of India there are a lot of motley forces.
  11. Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 7 July 2018 17: 43
    +1
    Wangyu: 4 years and again nichrome will not be determined.
  12. 123456789
    123456789 7 July 2018 18: 10
    0
    Indian tender fighter. KLA proposed MiG-35

    History repeats thrice. The first time as a tragedy and a couple of times - for the Indians.
  13. Hole puncher
    Hole puncher 7 July 2018 18: 21
    0
    Let Arnold speak for me ...
  14. san4es
    san4es 7 July 2018 18: 42
    +1
    Indian tender fighter. KLA proposed MiG-35

    belay ... de vu.
    skyships
    Posted Jul 14 2017 year
  15. Prisoner
    Prisoner 7 July 2018 19: 07
    0
    93 must be built at home. Here are the stubborn ones! The semi-finished product is riveted again and offended faces will be built.
  16. vfvlasov
    vfvlasov 7 July 2018 20: 58
    0
    China will win the tender. They have better planes than Russian, cheaper by a third, and can do a lot in a short time. Ours fly by!
    1. cariperpaint
      cariperpaint 8 July 2018 12: 04
      0
      What does China have to do with it?
    2. Yarhann
      Yarhann 9 July 2018 21: 37
      -1
      oh sho there in China for better, but tell me - it’s especially interested in the best of their power units)) probably because the Chinese planes are the best Russian ones they bought a lot of the latest dryers and engines for them for many years to come. Or resell to India))) only the inscriptions of Made in Chin will be screwed)))
      what experts you are sometimes funny)
  17. Vadya
    Vadya 7 July 2018 22: 01
    0
    That's just no need to fawn before them ...
  18. Rogharg thrumthrod
    Rogharg thrumthrod 7 July 2018 22: 29
    0
    And India will serve Russian planes according to the version of Mexico, disassemble new planes for parts?
    1. Yarhann
      Yarhann 9 July 2018 21: 38
      -1
      They don’t need to disassemble them, they themselves will collect them as well as drying 30mki. In part, they also rivet themselves.
  19. nathanael
    nathanael 8 July 2018 11: 45
    0
    one though they themselves know what they want?
    1. abc_alex
      abc_alex 8 July 2018 13: 09
      0
      Yes. For someone to teach them how to make world-class aircraft. And built the plants. :) Nobody goes into this business. So rushing around.
  20. vkfriendly
    vkfriendly 9 July 2018 08: 32
    0
    Hindu aircraft are in second place, the main thing for them is technology, the construction of factories and staff training, few people agree to such conditions, everyone is haggling, but they are on their own terms, what time will tell the Indians.
    1. Yarhann
      Yarhann 9 July 2018 21: 42
      -1
      They themselves have been collecting dryers for a long time and there are factories there and spare parts for them are made, only 8 dryers they have already hit in the tests. And the Indians abandoned the joint development of FGFA.
      They really can’t service and assemble the planes and can’t learn what kind of development can be discussed.
      1. vkfriendly
        vkfriendly 10 July 2018 18: 12
        0
        Only the glider itself is assembled, Russia has been supplying engines, and they have been building their own for 40 years under a French license, they want to stick it on the SU-30MKI and on their promising 5th generation AMCA aircraft, but as they say, the engine is very outdated and it has no reserve for modernization , therefore, it will not work to increase power for SU35, especially for AMSA.
        1. Yarhann
          Yarhann 12 July 2018 09: 19
          -1
          I wrote what they collect - I'm not talking about the complete localization of production - it’s understandable that our engines are there - because creating your own jet engine for a hawk is considered a ready-made hawk - there is no mover there is no hawk. You can, of course, create your hawk on the basis of the Russian engine, but it will be worse from the start drying or instant (depending on which engine) it is simple because the ready-made cars with this engine have already been created long ago and have passed many years of modernization stages and reached the pinnacle of scientific and technical perfection.
          Although the Swedes seem to rivet flu on American engines