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Poland recommended for the demolition of Soviet monuments 75

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This year, the Institute of National Memory of Poland recommended local authorities to dismantle 75 monuments, including monuments created in honor of the Red Army soldiers, Soviet partisans and prisoners of war, reports Kommersant.


Dismantling of the monument "Two Ivan" in the city of Legnica.

In recent years, after numerous battles, representatives of different branches of the Polish government agreed that the monuments to the soldiers of the Red Army, if they were built in cemeteries or single graves, deserve care and protection. These are the “correct” monuments.

Those that stand outside the cemeteries are “wrong” because they already carry the communist ideology to the masses. Such monuments in the country is not the place, they must be dismantled.

Mainly in the mentioned list are the monuments of the Red Army, although, as the newspaper found out, among them are monuments dedicated to Polish soldiers. One of them has already been demolished in the city of Legnica. The monument depicted two soldiers, Polish and Soviet, holding a little girl in their arms. Residents called the group sculpture "Two Ivan", and even opposed its demolition.

The publication reminds that during the Second World War on the territory of Poland, according to various estimates, from 1,3 million to 2 million Soviet citizens perished. Of these, more than a million are prisoners who died in concentration camps.

In total, there are about 700 graves of Soviet soldiers in Poland. Since 2014, 42 memorial sites have been dismantled in the country without notifying the Russian side. According to the head of the representative office of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the organization and conduct of military memorial work in Poland, Alexei Fomichev, the arguments of the Russian side and personal contacts do not bring results.

Meanwhile, despite the fact that the cost of caring for monuments lies on the Polish side, the Russian embassy has been investing for many years, including in their overhaul. So, in 2010 – 2016, Russia allocated almost $ 5,5 million against $ 2,1 million allocated by the Polish authorities. This year, the Russian Federation allocates $ 534 th.

We try to work so as not to return to repairing these memorials for at least 25 years. But all the cemeteries can not be repaired immediately,
noted Fomichev.
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  1. solzh
    solzh 6 July 2018 11: 32
    +4
    The Institute of National Memory of Poland recommended that local authorities dismantle 75 monuments, including monuments created in honor of the Red Army, Soviet partisans and prisoners of war,

    Poland had absolutely nothing sacred left. heirs of the Nazis.
    1. self-propelled
      self-propelled 6 July 2018 11: 36
      +6
      I recommend to demolish the Polish embassy in the Russian Federation, as a sign of past relations socialist Poland and the USSR
      where psheki will be surprised wassat
      1. Anarchist
        Anarchist 6 July 2018 11: 48
        +6
        Quote: self-propelled
        I recommend demolishing the Polish embassy in the Russian Federation as a sign of past relations between socialist Poland and the USSR

        I would also suggest demolishing government buildings in Poland itself, since they also carry the legacy of the USSR!
        Quote: self-propelled
        where psheki will be surprised
        And let them not be surprised ...
        1. self-propelled
          self-propelled 6 July 2018 11: 52
          +3
          Quote: Anarchist
          I would suggest demolishing government buildings in Poland itself, since they also represent the legacy of the USSR

          LET'S MAKE SNOW POLAND POLAND !!! fellow - as the legacy of the “scoop” ... and why not, since they have already begun to put an end to the “bloody communist past”! weak ?!
          1. Anarchist
            Anarchist 6 July 2018 11: 54
            +3
            And give their territory to the Germans!
            1. self-propelled
              self-propelled 6 July 2018 12: 01
              +2
              Quote: Anarchist
              And give the territory to the Germans!

              small - to give everything to the Austro-Hungarians, Prussians (and the rest of the pre-pre-previous ethnic groups in the given territory) - as a result, Poland will not remain as such ... recourse
              LET'S FIGHT WITH PAST Ethnicities !!! angry
        2. prior
          prior 6 July 2018 12: 33
          0
          Do not limit yourself to half measures.
          Whatever the law and all the monuments stood in cemeteries respectively, I propose to make the whole of Poland one big cemetery.
          But where will the Ukrainian guest workers go to work? Russia does not need so much.
          1. solzh
            solzh 6 July 2018 14: 48
            0
            Ukrainian migrant workers will not need to go anywhere soon. They will soon become slaves of Poland.
            From the news:
            In Lviv, detained Polish citizens, who were rude in relation to local residents. At first they demanded that the townspeople appease them, and after the remark made by him, they attacked people with fists.
            The brawl took place on July 5. “According to the victims, the Poles demanded the Ukrainian“ kurv ”, and when they made a comment, they beat those who made a remark to them”
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      2. SSR
        SSR 6 July 2018 13: 29
        0
        Quote: self-propelled
        I recommend to demolish the Polish embassy in the Russian Federation, as a sign of past relations socialist Poland and the USSR
        where psheki will be surprised wassat

        + but First you need to dry all the pipelines from the Russian Federation with logs. Let them buy through the Germans or .... but not through the ruins of Lukashenko.
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 6 July 2018 11: 39
      0
      In our small towns and villages, of which there are thousands, except Lenin, there are no monuments at all. But in them lived soldiers liberating the same Poland (and not only) and many died there. And something about this, none of our authorities bother. winked
      1. cariperpaint
        cariperpaint 6 July 2018 11: 47
        +1
        What is it like? They need to put in all the monuments there? And do not give this money ?! Or what?
      2. Nasrat
        Nasrat 6 July 2018 11: 56
        +3
        Quote: siberalt
        In our small towns and villages, of which there are thousands, except Lenin, there are no monuments at all.



        In Bashkiria, on the Day of Russia, a monument to the Soviet soldier was unveiled
        https://mkset.ru/news/society/13-06-2017/v-bashki
        rii-v-den-rossii-otkryli-pamyatnik-sovetskomu-sol
        datu? dont_show_full_version = yes

        IN THE VILLAGE OF KIROVO, PENZA REGION, THE MONUMENT FOR THE SOVIET SOLDIER IS OPENED
        https://rvio.histrf.ru/activities/news/item-4249

        MONUMENT TO THE SOLDIER IN THE VILLAGE NOVO-KUSKOVO
        Tomsk region, Asinovsky district, the village of Novo-Kuskovo
        http://imena.onf.ru/placements/tomskaya-oblast/pa
        myatnik-soldatu-v-sele-novo-kuskovo? field_placeme
        nt_type_tid = 90

        The opening ceremony of the monument to the "Soviet Soldier" was held in the village of Kapustin Yar
        http://ahtubinskpilot.ru/?p=15797


        etc.
        1. self-propelled
          self-propelled 6 July 2018 12: 08
          +3
          because precisely SOVIET SOLDIER fought against fascism and nationalism (and not Ukrainian, Russian, Tungus ... etc. on the list)
    3. self-propelled
      self-propelled 6 July 2018 11: 48
      +1
      Quote: solzh
      Poland has nothing left sacred

      but it was (with regards to the saint in relation to the liberators)?
      Quote: solzh
      heirs of the Nazis

      sad neither they are the first nor they are the last - there are enough people who want to live at someone else's expense (or to cling to the warm side of the "patron"). only I earnestly ask all “historians”, bloggers and others like them to CAREFULLY read history (which is science, not a detective novel) - it (history) develops in a spiral (that is, it has a certain cyclical nature). stories tend to be repeated (maybe on a slightly different level, but the movement itself is unchanged)
    4. Vend
      Vend 6 July 2018 12: 09
      +1
      Quote: solzh
      The Institute of National Memory of Poland recommended that local authorities dismantle 75 monuments, including monuments created in honor of the Red Army, Soviet partisans and prisoners of war,

      Poland had absolutely nothing sacred left. heirs of the Nazis.

      Let’s write it down, we won’t release Poland, the territory for the European Caliphate.
  2. taiga2018
    taiga2018 6 July 2018 11: 33
    0
    it was not right to release with haste, which led to great losses, this vile people ...
  3. MPN
    MPN 6 July 2018 11: 33
    +2
    All these acts are associated with me as if they were putting shit in their mouths and spitting them in us ... winked
  4. evil partisan
    evil partisan 6 July 2018 11: 35
    +6
    I believe that it is necessary to take away all the remaining monuments in Poland dedicated to the victory over Nazism, as well as all the remains of our soldiers in Russia. No matter how much it costs. And solemnly rebury them, for example, in Smolensk or on the border of the Kaliningrad region. and Poland. This is the only way to save them from ruin and destruction.
    1. Fisher martin
      Fisher martin 6 July 2018 11: 50
      +3
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      I believe that it is necessary to take away all the remaining monuments in Poland dedicated to the victory over Nazism, as well as all the remains of our soldiers in Russia. No matter how much

      Well, let the cemeteries remain, the monuments can be taken. In exchange, send them these stupid monuments such as "Victims of Katyn" or "Victims of Tsarist and Soviet Prison" bully
      1. Walking
        Walking 6 July 2018 11: 57
        +5
        To take down Katyn and put a monument to a birch there.
      2. Setavr
        Setavr 6 July 2018 12: 09
        +2
        Put a monument to Tukhol instead of Katyn.
      3. evil partisan
        evil partisan 6 July 2018 13: 45
        +2
        Quote: Fisher Martin
        let the cemeteries remain

        They also ruin cemeteries. That is the question...
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 6 July 2018 11: 42
    +3
    The desire to erase from the Polish memory the contribution of the Red Army to the victory over fascism and the liberation of Poland can no longer be stopped. Poland has long been an open enemy of Russia and does not hide it. Therefore, it’s time for some to stop hoping for Russian-Polish friendship, which "will surely be restored." And the open enemy should be treated accordingly.
    1. militia2
      militia2 6 July 2018 20: 27
      0
      You pay attention when shopping, whether the product is made in Poland or whether it is Polish frozen products, and draw the appropriate conclusions.
      Nothing more is required of you yet.
      If everyone does this, then the “friendship” will recover much faster than might be expected.
  6. Phil77
    Phil77 6 July 2018 11: 52
    +1
    Damn them, creatures! They only know how to fight the dead, who died for them! In Germany, with whom we fought, not a single monument to Our Soldiers was demolished! And these ghouls burn in hell!
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 6 July 2018 12: 45
      0
      Quote: Phil77
      Damn them, creatures! They only know how to fight the dead, who died for them! In Germany, with whom we fought, not a single monument to Our Soldiers was demolished! And these ghouls burn in hell!

      at their side. gobble up
  7. victorsh
    victorsh 6 July 2018 11: 55
    +2
    Short-CREATED! It’s not for nothing that the grandfathers-oba- “drove” into my head-psheki-critters.
  8. XII legion
    XII legion 6 July 2018 11: 58
    +1
    Outrage, no words
  9. Doctor Evil
    Doctor Evil 6 July 2018 12: 09
    +1
    A memorial sign of "Soviet-Polish friendship" in Kaliningrad near Olsztyn Lane. What to do with it? Leave as is? Explode in protest? Or send the Poles?
  10. parusnik
    parusnik 6 July 2018 12: 16
    0
    Meanwhile, despite the fact that the cost of caring for monuments lies on the Polish side, the Russian embassy has been investing for many years, including in their overhaul. So, in 2010 – 2016, Russia allocated almost $ 5,5 million against $ 2,1 million allocated by the Polish authorities. This year, the Russian Federation allocates $ 534 th.
    ... Well, they will demolish, and then they will steal ..
  11. dolfi1
    dolfi1 6 July 2018 12: 38
    +2
    So they rewrite history, they erect monuments to Soviet soldiers, and the Psheks destroy their own. How did the monuments stop them? request
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 6 July 2018 12: 43
      +3
      Israel really can serve as an example for some Europeans. By the way, Yakov Kedmi once spoke about this in a program with Solovyov.
  12. USSR-1
    USSR-1 6 July 2018 12: 42
    +2
    Give the Polish authorities gas. Is free. To every bureaucrat. A beginner, an old man - it does not matter. It’s not people anyway
  13. LSA57
    LSA57 6 July 2018 12: 42
    0
    probably Krakow saved in vain
  14. LSA57
    LSA57 6 July 2018 12: 47
    0
    Quote: victorsh
    Short-CREATED! It’s not for nothing that the grandfathers-oba- “drove” into my head-psheki-critters.

    three tankers
  15. faiver
    faiver 6 July 2018 15: 04
    +1
    what can I say, only swear words are spoken in the language, but here they can’t be written ... hi
  16. Ros 56
    Ros 56 6 July 2018 15: 10
    +1
    But it’s not time for us to stop trading with the Poles, as with ungrateful pigs. Generally terminate all relations, even diplomatic. Let them communicate with the stripes, maybe they will launch a hedgehog for them.
  17. Vovad
    Vovad 6 July 2018 16: 38
    +1
    I think this is a consequence of “victory”. Slogans such as “We can repeat”, mumbled veterans who are not even 60 years old, signs that are thrown out at the end and the like. I hope no one will argue that the victory over fascism in World War II the war turned into propaganda. When there are no achievements, we use the events of a hundred years ago of the no longer existing state, privatizing its achievements. Here we get the answer in the form of demolition of monuments.
    1. militia2
      militia2 6 July 2018 20: 38
      +1
      I will not argue, but it is not. There are, perhaps, only two scrapes that somehow connect together our semi-ill society - this is the Russian language and the Great Victory. Therefore, even if the officialdom of propaganda disturbs you, cutting these roots is unwise.
      And the fact that the Poles demolish the monuments is not due to the lack of our achievements (although, if they were, then you are right, the monuments could stand), but because of the desire to crawl into at least a carcass, even a stuffed animal, the so-called "Europe." They have their own laws. Europe at one time rose on the robbery of neighboring peoples and colonies (we were affected by this in 1941, 1812, etc.). To rob someone, you must first convince yourself that this creature is inferior and worthy to be robbed. Well, who erects monuments to inferior creatures.
  18. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 6 July 2018 19: 13
    0
    Pshek completely beguiled the coast. It seems time to divide Poland for the fifth time ...
  19. shirkoled
    shirkoled 6 July 2018 20: 13
    +1
    Well, in Poland, the heirs of the Nazis demolish monuments! And in Chukotka, a memorial to the Russian pioneers is being demolished, what about these?
  20. Daniel
    Daniel 7 July 2018 07: 34
    0
    Well, the Poles are also very sensitive to their history in Russia, too, there are such places
  21. Hiw
    Hiw 7 July 2018 20: 11
    0
    The Poles have something genetically against the Russians in their blood, I would say so - they hate Russians more than the Nazis of the Second World War, you have to keep an eye on these dudes
  22. RUSS
    RUSS 8 July 2018 23: 17
    0
    The Poles, in their favor, have the right to turn what they want.