So is the hero Sergei Kiriyenko or not a hero? ..

Yesterday continues to be actively discussed news article in the Kommersant publication on the rewarding of representatives of the federal government with the titles of Hero of Russia It's about the same material "B"in which the president of Russia declared "signed a closed decree" on conferring these high titles to Sergey Kiriyenko and Yuri Borisov.

It is noted that in addition to Sergey Kiriyenko, who once headed the state corporation Rosatom, several other representatives of this corporation were also awarded. And awarded, as stated in the publication, also the titles of the Hero of Russia.

“Kommersant”, referring to unnamed sources, writes that the awarding ceremony of Sergei Kiriyenko (if it really was, note “VO”) took place in connection with his achievements as the head of “Rosatom”, as well as “possible” in connection with the contribution to the presidential election campaign, which Kiriyenko was directly involved in.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, a spokesman, did not comment on these statements.

The article adds that Yuri Borisov (now the deputy chairman of the Russian government) received the award (again, if this is true) for his merits in the implementation of public procurement of the latest weapons for the Armed Forces of Russia.

The Kommersant publication is actively commented on the web. And to the most rewarding questions not so much. The main questions relate to what reward is chosen and how far such a choice is adequate to merit.

Against this background, news agency TASS submits statements from its own sources, who claim that the decision to award Sergei Kiriyenko was made before the presidential election - in early March of this year.

Comments

[Uncle lee]

It seems like for rockets with nuclear engines. But only the recipient and the award-winner know exactly.

[Vard]

Well, now we know that the man who left all of Russia without panties did it for our own good ...

[hrych]

He was set up for default. The Black Muzzle so as not to suffer in the sense of rating. Need to understand.

[cariperpaint]

This default is Chernomyrdinsky GKO. Kiriyenko simply had to choose or advertise it or give out the entire treasury of the country for debts. And then for sure to be left without at all. Blaming him for this is just stupid.

[basmach]

But history is not so distant, but propaganda does its job. Kiriyenko was not Putin's forerunner. After the kinder were Primakov, Mamlyukov, Gerashchenko. It was this trio that pulled the country. They worked for only 9 months, raked the Augean stables, and then, on everything ready, came the "sputter *" Putin. A short memory of the people

[cariperpaint]

Well, for the finished thing, you turned down of course) the debts that were, the state of the country, the war that started, do you think it's all ready?) A short memory of people ...

[midshipman]

I think it is necessary to write Maslyukov Yu.D. This was my sidekick. Died.

[Pax tecum]

... Primakov, Mamlyukov, Gerashchenko. It was this trio that pulled the country. They worked for only 9 months, raked the Augean stables, and then, on everything ready, came the "sputter *" Putin. A short memory of the people

It seems that it was precisely Gerashchenko who said that this cannot be, that there is no country, there is not enough money. The state itself makes money! It is necessary to print more rubles.
This, so to speak, is in contrast to the words of Medvedev that there is no money, you are holding on there.
For normal functioning real sector need money, sorry for the banality, but this is the circulatory system of the economy.
But, it has become so firmly established by the ruling regime that liberal monetarists are in power ...

- The Ministry of Finance does not get tired of repeating that the state will service the budget deficit exclusively at the expense of the Reserve Fund, but in no case will it use the emission apparatus. Say, turning on the printing press is dangerous.

- I do not understand what they are afraid of. After all, everyone is well aware that inflation in Russia is non-monetary in nature. Prices are mainly rising due to lack of competition and higher tariffs of state monopolies. Therefore, an increase in the money supply and a decrease in the refinancing rate on inflation will not significantly affect.

When in the autumn of 1998, Gerashchenko appeared as chairman of the Central Bank, he immediately took a tough stance on personnel issues. The members of the Central Bank’s board of directors included the most experienced specialists from the USSR State Bank and the Central Bank of Russia: Arnold Voilukov, Konstantin Shor, Lyudmila Gudenko, Nadezhda Savinskaya.

Under the leadership of the chief, they developed an anti-crisis program for restructuring the banking system. The Central Bank has taken a set of measures to stabilize the monetary and financial system and streamline the movement of financial resources and capital. The rejection of senseless expenses for the artificial support of the ruble and the introduction of a floating rate did not slow to affect the economic situation in the country. Under the leadership of Victor Gerashchenko, the Central Bank has consistently pursued a flexible exchange rate policy aimed at maintaining domestic prices stable against the dollar - taking into account inflation.

In the fall of 1998, the Central Bank turned on the printing press. In less than a year and a half, the money supply in the economy grew by 50 – 55%, and in 2001 – 2002 by another 30 – 35%. To overcome the crisis, the Gerashchenko team raised the money supply to the level of 60% of GDP, thereby ensuring consumer demand for domestic goods and services. At the same time, a policy of gradually lowering the refinancing rate was pursued. An effective way to reduce inflation was to increase the reserve requirement, which deprived banks of the opportunity to speculate in the foreign exchange market and thereby destabilize the ruble exchange rate. Along the way, the Bank of Russia tightened control over how credit organizations form these reserves.
The Central Bank also used other liquidity management tools, such as debt refinancing for enterprises in the real sector.

[dvina71]

Quote: hrych

He was set up for default.

No ... you are wrong .. By that time, neither Chernomyrdin, nor the family had such influence to take someone and substitute at such a level. And the logic of subsequent events suggests that Kiriyenko and the runway are creatures of one group of people.
You just need to imagine what GKO of that time is. It was a pure fraud on the withdrawal of currency from the Russian Federation. Can you imagine a yield of 100% per annum in dollars, at billions of turnover? And imagine what forces stood behind it ... go out and say .. all the guys .. your time is up .., default and close the GKO program .. I’m surprised that he wasn’t shot right in the hall ..

[hrych]

The default occurred due to falling oil prices. As the USSR went bankrupt, so they decided to try it in the Russian Federation. The reason is the conspiracy of the West and the Arabian sheikhs. Moreover, the Soviet economy collapsed at prices of 10 bucks a barrel in the eighties, and in default of 1998 they also lowered to 10 bucks to destroy the Russian Federation. And then you know.

[dvina71]

Quote: hrych

The default occurred due to falling oil prices.

No .. default 1998 political action. What you write about works in a healthy economy. The Russian economy at that time was a pump pumping loot abroad. We even brought sausage and butter with wagons and wagons from the hilly hill.
The most productive sections of the pump were GKO and ZAKON on the sharing of natural resources. Both of them were eliminated as a result of the elimination of the "family" from power. The result of the default was a sharp rise in import prices and an increase in industrial production in the Russian Federation.

[RASKAT]

I agree. Kiriyenko, being the head of Rosatom, bought the company Uranium One which now owns 35% of the world's total uranium production in the world, and that’s only because we share it with Kazakhstan, as well as 70% together with Kazakhstan. We also own about 70% of all large uranium deposits on the planet. Africa Australia USA Kazakhstan. Only for this Kiriyenko could be awarded. We are also actually monopolists in the NPP construction market in other countries. Also, the Northern Sea Route all hydrocarbons in the Arctic are also largely developed thanks to atomic icebreakers.

[Tusv]

And where does Pupsik here? Without his underside, His filthiness Chernomyrdin left us. Kinder surprise turned out to be Putin’s forerunner

[Pax tecum]

What is the “Hero of Russia” given for? Obviously, the basis for conferring the title are heroism and courage.
According to the regulations on the title of Hero of the Russian Federation, it is awarded "for services to the state and people associated with the commission of a heroic feat."

It turns out that the Presidential Decree is closed, because nothing is known in the context of the topic?
The country must know its heroes ...
And a description of the feat is necessary, as is customary.

[Pax tecum]

Recalls how President Putin awarded his decree with Joseph Kobzon's Decree for “courage and dedication associated with a risk to life” with the Order of Courage.
In the 2002 on Dubrovka “Nord Ost”, when he entered the theater building to negotiate with the terrorists and left ... without impressing his "authority" on the terrorists.
Although yes! I risked it. Fell under the grounds.
From the Statute: Citizens are awarded the Order of Courage for their selflessness, courage and courage shown in saving people, protecting public order, fighting crime, during natural disasters, fires, catastrophes and other extraordinary circumstances, as well as for bold and decisive actions committed in the performance of military, civil or official duty in conditions involving a risk to life.

That would be to see the grounds for falling under the foundations of the "hero" of the article. We have the right to know.

[AlexVas44]

Quote: Pax tecum

According to the regulations on the title of Hero of the Russian Federation, it is awarded "for services to the state and people associated with the commission of a heroic feat."

Can lay down on something?

[Chertt]

Quote: Vard

Well, now we know that the man who left all of Russia without panties did it for our own good ...

Are you without panties? Or are you talking about some other Russia. I am Russian, everything is fine with my underwear

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Chertt

Are you without panties?

From the martyrs, the campaign ... they, they say, do not wear them

[Chertt]

Quote: Golovan Jack

From the martyrs, the campaign ... they, they say, do not wear them

So there is no other explanation, it is not hygienic. (or absolutely indecent assumptions)

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Chertt

there is no other explanation

Yes, just full. They sold the last shorts (and the last shirt, too) to collect sick children for surgery, for example.
And so - yes people constantly aches, well, he probably likes it. There are many of them, this one from the relatively "harmless"

[hohkn]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: Chertt

Are you without panties?

From the martyrs, the campaign ... they, they say, do not wear them

Wahhabis do not wear.

[basmach]

That's exactly what a Russian is. But the great Suvorov said: - "I am proud that I am Russian." And I'm proud. And you be a Russian.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: basmach

That's exactly what a Russian is. But the great Suvorov said: - "I am proud that I am Russian." And I'm proud.

Well then, at least change your nickname to "Alexander Nevsky", for example, or Dobrynya Nikitich, Ilya of Muromets, or something ...
And then basmach Well, somehow does not roll under your koment!
Ага.

[lukewarm]

Quote: Chertt

I'm fine with my underwear

The author of that comment may not be all right with the personalities (whoever plunged us into poverty to a greater extent), but the essence is sustained correctly. The fact that you are doing well with underwear is undoubtedly pleasing. Only this is not your merit but THEIR flaw (as cops like to joke about the lack of criminal record of law-abiding citizens). So this is temporary. Take off, do not worry.

[Chertt]

In general, an article and discussion about S. Kiriyenko is justified by his high award.

Quote: unwillingly

So this is temporary. Take off, do not worry.

And this is already, the argument about the essence of capitalism, That the conditional "They" want to undress a simple person, this, as they say, is a medical fact. But "this is a completely different story (s)"

[lukewarm]

I agree completely

[NordUral]

Did you check your pants for availability?

[Simargl]

Quote: Vard

Well, now we know that the man who left all of Russia without panties did it for our own good ...

For me, he is a man who defaulted and did not let blood spill.
Do you really think that he took off all his linen in a month ?!

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Vard

Well, now we know that the man who left all of Russia without panties did it for our own good ...

this man left Russia without American legs .. Due to default, the growth of industrial production amounted to 20% over the following year. Turn on the brains

[PANTELEIMON]

Let me send you the cowards by cash on delivery by mail1

[KLV2018]

Quote: Vard

Well, now we know that the man who left all of Russia without panties did it for our own good ...

as well as cutting off the heads of Russian soldiers.
The bottom is broken.

[KLV2018]

Quote: Vard

Well, now we know that the man who left all of Russia without panties did it for our own good ...

and if he bore the name of his father, and not his mother, he would have stood here.

[Fungus]

And there is. This is a breakthrough.

[hrych]

Quote from Uncle Lee

It seems like for rockets with nuclear engines. But only the recipient and the award-winner know exactly.

Poseidon, also with a compact nuclear reactor, it is possible that there is unification, in particular the compact reactor itself. Another laser installation also requires powerful energy. Why it didn’t work out on a car chassis. They put it either on a ship, where additional SU was required, or on a large plane with four engines no less. Therefore, Petrel, Poseidon and Peresvet became possible in principle, solely due to the compact nuclear weapons.

[Chertt]

Quote: hrych

Therefore, Petrel, Poseidon and Peresvet became possible in principle, solely due to the compact nuclear weapons.

And in general. The nuclear industry of the Russian Federation does not look very bad. Russia is the undisputed world leader in the latest developments, production and operation of nuclear reactors. And recently, (after Putin’s conversion) it became known that in compact nuclear warheads, for the needs of Moscow Region

[NKT]

This is all clear, but why give the Hero of Russia for this? In the USSR, for this he would have received either a state prize or a Hero of Social Labor. And the title of Hero of the USSR (Russia) has always been given for personal achievement. And not for any feat. True, in Soviet times, this title was depreciated by "anniversary awards", but now even more so.

[hrych]

Quote: NKT

And the title of Hero of the USSR (Russia) has always been given for personal achievement.

And Fidel was awarded and Khrushchev with us Hero of the Soviet Union. Yes, they gave to someone not later and it is not clear why. That's who created YaSU truly heroes of Russia definitely. It’s just that many didn’t get it, that this is the Victory in the battle for the Planet.

[Chertt]

I remember the poem from school:
"Lies in Egypt to the top with a belly
semi fascist, semi eser
Hero of the Soviet Union
Abdu Gamal Abdel Nasser "

[Lekov L]

A little not heard:
"Lies on the beach, warms the belly
semi-fascist, half-star,
Hero of the Soviet Union
Gamal Abdel at all Nasser "
This is from my childhood
Sincerely.

[Chertt]

Not always the titles and orders, get the most worthy. Even the highest order of the USSR
The "Order of Victory", in some cases, went to "ambiguous people"

[Pax tecum]

By the way, S.K.Shoygu also has a star of the hero of Russia, and if anyone remembers, he received it for creating the Ministry of Emergencies. But, that’s the most incomprehensible thing, the creation of this state structure was not out of the blue, but on the basis of the Soviet Civil Defense and Emergencies Ministry (even such troops were 1994).
Those. first abolished, and then “created”, and reformed.
But, there is information in the public domain, which is possible for eliminating the consequences of the invasion of militants in 1999 in Dagestan ... Then, it’s even less clear what are the devastating consequences of two or three districts?

[Karenius]

Quote: Pax tecum

But, that’s the most incomprehensible thing, the creation of this state structure was not out of the blue, but on the basis of the Soviet Civil Defense and Emergencies Ministry (even such troops were 1994).

By the way, just in case, they were sent to this structure to serve those horsemen who might have been in their orientation for L.P. B ... Their units were waiting for target designation for 3 days for N1 when the warriors were isolated.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: hrych

Khrushchev, we have a Hero of the Soviet Union

Khrushchev fought one way or another. And Fidel’s rewarding is politics. And what of the presents represents the Kiriyenko award, I do not know.

[hrych]

Quote: Ingvar 72

And what of the presents represents the Kiriyenko award, I do not know.

For winning the Arms Race.

[Ingvar 72]

Have we won?

[hrych]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Have we won?

Imagine, yes.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: hrych

Imagine, yes.

Who?

[hrych]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Who?

A cow Poseidon makes all their weapons, economic power, etc. uniquely useless. They are atlantists, a sea power, their cities are close to the shore. As the United States, as the EU, as the People’s Republic of China, as India, etc. The intercontinental missile defense flying near the surface of the Petrel makes all of them even promising air defense / missile defense systems completely useless. The Peresvet combat compact laser, ground, sea, air and space makes our air defense / missile defense system such that with the S-500 and Nudol, we will actually be ready to repulse a massive strike with ballistic missiles, we will hit in all areas of the flight, we will hit false targets, therefore, real BBs cannot be hidden. I repeat, unlike you, in the East and West understood this. The World Order fell, which was based on the military dominance of the West, cheap slave labor of the East, etc. Everything collapsed. The United States launched a trade war with China and the EU, Turkey actually fell away from NATO, the Chinese elected King Xi, which indicates an impending disaster. All this began after the appearance of YaSU to the people. YaSU made it possible to translate into reality projects that failed due to the insufficient power of the power plants, or rather the bulkiness of those naturally based on the nuclear reaction. So the idea of ​​Trutnev-Sakharov was embodied, the SDI became a reality, and intercontinental Kyrgyzstan became a reality. That's all. It’s hard even to realize that this is an achievement. And this is good.

[DVTamga]

What does the Kirienka have to do with it?

[lukewarm]

Quote: hrych

It’s hard even to realize that this is an achievement. And this is good.

Klitschko was envious. Yes, the achievement is such that it is not realized. The main thing is not to touch. They said there is. The cartoon showed. There is no science, no medicine, no screwdriver production, no machine tools. A "mace" either flies or not, but there is a nuclear installation !. And now the whole world is at our feet. And I want to live, despite gasoline and retirement age. One question - do they all already know that they are defeated, or have you not yet told them about it? Well, so as not to injure the psyche. And then they’ll shoot with a fright - but do we have YaSU so far only in the drawings? I would also like the name of a substance that gives such an effect. Already tired of the negative, maybe it will stick out like that and I will begin to understand the whole depth

[Lycan]

Who knows, maybe briefly, but strategically appropriate - did not lose.

[Semurg]

Quote: Lycan

Who knows, maybe briefly, but strategically appropriate - did not lose.

As in the cartoon, Alyosha Popovich "did not fall."

[Boa kaa]

Quote: hrych

Yes, they gave to someone not later and it is not clear why.

And it's simple: read the STATUTE of state awards - and reward!
Business! But they made the award department, the presidential administration, the administration of affairs .... And everything in business, with salaries and benefits, privileges and state maintenance ... Well, what else is needed?
If you want the Hero of Russia - here you have 2 grenades and 3 German tanks that need to be stopped on the outskirts of Moscow!
Everything is simple! The NHS of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Makarov was also given a closed resolution of the Hero. For the fact that he destroyed the armed forces and the country's mobile system. And Shoigu was also given a Hero because he restored the Armed Forces and the country's mob system. But they are the opposite of the views on the construction of the aircraft. And how can this be (!?) It is not clear!
And the king-father from the tower knows better ... That's why he and the KING !!!

[Polite Moose]

Quote: NKT

This is all clear, but why give the Hero of Russia for this? In the USSR, for this he would have received either a state prize or a Hero of Social Labor.

I will support your words. But, nevertheless, I note that:

"Kommersant", referring to unnamed sources, writes that the awarding of Sergei Kiriyenko (if it really was - approx. "VO") took place

the news needs verification or official confirmation. Doubts about its reliability are added by the fact that

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, a spokesman, did not comment on these statements.

I suppose that after recent statements by the GDP about his talkativeness, he now filters what he says. Or he is silent if he does not own the question.
And, as for the personality of Sergei Kiriyenko, you can relate to him in different ways. As Prime Minister, he did not remember me. Kinder Surprise and all. But on the post of head of Rosatom, he looks much more in place. He sits in the shade, does not "shine" and systematically does his job. Moreover, in my opinion, it makes it pretty good. Compact reactors, fast neutron reactors, the advancement of our nuclear technologies in the world - all this requires serious organizational and administrative experience, if not talent. Such successes certainly deserve the highest praise. But the award of the title "Hero of Russia" for labor achievements in peacetime, in my opinion, looks somewhat inappropriate and leveling this high rank. Although, perhaps this news is fake. Or the reason for the award has details about which we will not soon find out.

[MPN]

Quote: NKT

This is all clear, but why give the Hero of Russia for this?

I completely agree with you. But this one yet.

The material adds that Yuri Borisov (now the deputy chairman of the Russian government) received the award (again, if this is true) for his services in the process of public procurement of the latest weapons for the Russian Armed Forces.

It seems that he bought on his own ...

[g1v2]

Almost everything that was voiced by the GDP in the message of the Federal Assembly was created by ROSATOM. Something was previously known. The fact that Rosatom creates a powerful laser system for MO was known about 5 years ago. Then Kiriyenko told about about the same installation that Rosatom had created for Gazprom for cutting metal during fires at drilling sites. And he mentioned that such developments are being carried out for the military. KR with a nuclear engine is also the brainchild of Rosatom. Everything that has nuclear components - Sarmatian, Poseidon, Petrel, etc. - was created either by the Rosatom itself or with its serious participation. Plus, in atomic federal centers on supercomputers, basic calculations are being carried out for the military to model nuclear explosions, etc. Since nuclear tests are prohibited, then everything is calculated at the federal centers by the rasatom.
And most of this was curated or organized by Kinder. Thc reward in the case.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Uncle Lee

It seems like for rockets with nuclear engines. But only the recipient and the award-winner know exactly.

In the USSR, for such cases there was a reward - Hero of Socialist Labor.
And in our case, this is some kind of idiocy - what heroic, with a risk to their life, they did?
It is very similar to how Zhukov awarded his mistress for duvet deeds of military orders.
This is turning a combat award into a regular badge.

[populist]

Kiriyenko defaulted. It is impossible to award such state orders - medals of any dignity. Here they write that he was framed ... They also found a "stupid boy" Kiriyenko knew where he was going, why and what he would do. Default is entirely on it. It is his fault and his responsibility .

[tomket]

Quote from Uncle Lee

But only the recipient and the award-winner know exactly.

And I have already decided that Kiriyenko put a bunch of Igilovtsev somewhere in Syria. Caused fire on himself, burned in a storm trooper, and carried the wounded soldiers from the battlefield. There players are not going to make heroes? But Peskov said that for him the match was like Victory Day. Well, there probably also the balls of the defeated teams will be laid to the EBN center.

[lukewarm]

Quote: tomket

But Peskov said that for him the match is like Victory Day

When there are no other victories at all, then the match will come down. Although pleasant in itself.

Quote: tomket

the balls of the defeated teams will be assigned to the EBN center.

+100500

[smart ass]

If it weren’t for the Strategic Missile Forces

[Alexey g]

Quote: Uncle Lee

It seems like for rockets with nuclear engines. But only the recipient and the award-winner know exactly.

If you did something truly breakthrough, to ensure the protection of the state - get a people's curse for it. This is some kind of stupid madhouse.

[SETTGF]

Excuse me! Chernomordin covered his ass! However, it didn’t help Chernomordin! One ass on the State Duma and the military was not enough!

[vik669]

Vasily Ivanovich, but a radio station with lamps or transistors?
For stupid, I repeat again: the radio station on an armored train

[Mar.Tirah]

This is to be seen in the traditions of our leaders who sit in their chairs for a long time. To reward yourself and your circle of close associates with all kinds of awards and privileges. Kiriyenko from the right-wing reactionaries of the Gaidarovskaya pack is definitely an enemy.

[ltc35]

Or maybe for default or for establishing ties with Scientologists ... Nobody will say for sure.

[Observer2014]

So is the hero Sergei Kiriyenko or not a hero? ..

Is there life on Mars. Or is there no life. Science does not know for sure. But this was what made Kiriyenko a scapegoat. It’s like 2x2. Although they didn’t abandon it, it would be noble.

for merits in the state procurement of the latest weapons for the Russian Armed Forces.

And why not. The technological breakthrough in the Petrel and the EU for nuclear torpedoes is no reason for a reward.

[milling machine]

Quote: Observer2014

So is the hero Sergei Kiriyenko or not a hero? ..

Is there life on Mars. Or is there no life. Science does not know for sure. But this was what made Kiriyenko a scapegoat. It’s like 2x2. Although they didn’t abandon it, it would be noble.

for merits in the state procurement of the latest weapons for the Russian Armed Forces.

And why not. The technological breakthrough in the Petrel and the EU for nuclear torpedoes is no reason for a reward.

Indeed, it is not the designer to reward for a rocket with nuclear weapons.
I will not be surprised at our state if even the 25-year-old son of Igor Sechin was presented for the award "for services to the fatherland of the 2nd degree."

[Observer2014]

milling machine (Alexander)

Indeed, it is not the designer to reward for a rocket with nuclear weapons.
I will not be surprised at our state if even the 25-year-old son of Igor Sechin was presented for the award "for services to the fatherland of the 2nd degree."

Well, the designer may also have a salary as a reward. Or an opportunity to create it as a fortune. But here are the children of our taxis who are all brilliantly successful top managers or super duper businessmen who see this all right. The elites of our country in one word.

[Dimy4]

Well, the designer may pay as a reward

That it is generally paid. Let it be glad.

[ver_]

..Kinder Surprise Alkanaut Boriska opened the toeless barrier ..

[hrych]

Quote: frezer

Indeed, it is not the designer to reward for a rocket with nuclear weapons.

Firstly, who said that the group of designers and the chief designer were left without awards. Secondly, this group was classified and apparently their names would not be announced soon. Development continues. Moreover, with a compact nuclear weapon, a space combat laser is finally possible, and SOI becomes an embodied reality, but with us. Also, the possibility of deep space exploration loomed. The airless atmosphere of Mars did not allow making an aircraft with an engine consuming oxygen, and the required fuel supply simply made this impossible. Now ala Burevestnik Marsolet became simply possible in the very near future. Also, with YaSU you can do PAK YES, which will fly for unlimited time, perhaps the shift method will be to change the crew when docking aircraft in the air. I repeat, all this has become a reality, thanks to a breakthrough in the technology of nuclear weapons. Therefore, stop stirring up and looking for nasty things in the great achievement of civilization, and not just Russia and its security.

[Simargl]

Quote: hrych

with a compact nuclear weapon, a space combat laser is finally possible, and SOI becomes an embodied reality, but with us.

Marsnash do not forget!

[hrych]

Quote: Simargl

Marsnash do not forget!

Simply, many inhabitants did not notice the March news, which is directly related to the installation on the Petrel.

A nuclear power propulsion plant (YEDU) will be ready for flight as early as 2018. This was announced by the Director of the Keldysh Center, Academician Anatoly Koroteev. “We must prepare the first sample (megawatt-class nuclear power plant. - Comment of“ Expert Online ”) for flight design tests in 2018. Whether it flies or not, this is another matter, there may be a turn, but it should be ready for the flight, ”RIA Novosti conveyed his words to it. The aforesaid means that one of the most ambitious Soviet-Russian space exploration projects is entering the phase of direct practical implementation: “No matter how many rocket engine specialists all over the world work, the maximum effect that we will get will be calculated in fractions of percent. Roughly speaking, everything has been squeezed out of existing rocket engines, whether it’s liquid or solid fuel, and attempts to increase thrust and specific impulse are simply futile. Nuclear power plants, however, give an increase of several times. Using the example of a flight to Mars, now you need to fly one and a half to two years there and back, but it will be possible to fly in two or four months, ”the former head of the Russian Federal Space Agency Anatoly Perminov assessed the situation at the time.

[lukewarm]

Quote: hrych

stop stirring up and looking for nasty things in the great achievement of civilization, and not just Russia and its security.

Quote: hrych

very near future. Also with YaSU it is possible to make PAK YES, which will fly unlimited time, perhaps on a rotational basis will be a crew change

Yes Yes. And the interplanetary chess tournament in New Vasyuki.

[hrych]

Quote: unwillingly

Yes Yes. And the interplanetary chess tournament in New Vasyuki.

All this was predictable, but rested on the dimensions and weight of the nuclear weapons. Now it’s gone and the Supreme has voiced this. If for you the Supreme is at Bender’s level of trust, then I am sorry for you. So far we have won three local wars with him, yet we have re-equipped the entire line of strategic missiles. So go sweet man, through the forest. People not only plan the future, but also make it, and do not carry nonsense. If there is a Mars rover, which can also ride much longer with YaSU, who said that an aircraft in the atmosphere of Mars is unrealistic. Learn son, in a word, you will understand the possibilities of promising developments.

[faiver]

procurement wording kills

[Uncle lee]

If there is something to reward, then let him. And why the "closed decree", which everyone learned!

[Fungus]

Then what's the secret development.

[vkfriendly]

WHO leaked information about the award still need to understand, so you look and the names will be published who participated in new developments. The businessman and his liberals decided to substitute the whole team.

[210ox]

The nuclear industry in our country is one of the few that goes well and develops well ... And what about the Hero? This title in my opinion should be given for military merit ...

Quote: Observer2014

So is the hero Sergei Kiriyenko or not a hero? ..

Is there life on Mars. Or is there no life. Science does not know for sure. But this was what made Kiriyenko a scapegoat. It’s like 2x2. Although they didn’t abandon it, it would be noble.

for merits in the state procurement of the latest weapons for the Russian Armed Forces.

And why not. The technological breakthrough in the Petrel and the EU for nuclear torpedoes is no reason for a reward.

[DEDPIHTO]

Quote: 210ox

... And what about the Hero? This title in my opinion should be given for military merit ..

There is an interesting article in the topic .. https://zen.yandex.ru/media/nasele/podvigi-geroia
-rossii-kirienko-5b3dd61543cf0000a9169c84

[vkfriendly]

So he and his Rosatom can, with the latest developments, prevented the 3rd world. Not only a hero can be given, but also recorded in saints.

[Ushly_bashkort]

The designers needed to give heroes. If there is a merit of the Kirienka in this, then we could give it out for merit to the Fatherland.

[Mikhail m]

The time has come back when you can become a hero without getting out of the chair. The result of growing the ruling stratum. We are developing along the classical spiral.

[hrych]

And if Kiriyenko is now in the position of Kurchatov. And if Kurchatov saved the USSR, i.e. our ethnic group, depriving the United States of a nuclear monopoly, plus already won the race, creating not the Teller device, but the real Hydrogen bomb, and then the Tsar bomb. Kurchatov deserves awards? Of course, he himself was the greatest scientist, but also the greatest administrator. And the main leader was ... Beria. So, the creation of a compact nuclear weapon is an achievement comparable to the first atomic and first hydrogen bomb of the USSR. Therefore, a chair, not a chair. It’s just that many ordinary people cannot get their hands on what happened, why Putin voiced this, why there was a shock in the West and the East. Why the Zakulis merges the Chinese, why the Chinese elected a king, for the first time in decades, why the USA and the EU overhanged, why peace was announced in Korea, etc. The balance of forces has changed and Korea has not become, then the World Order collapsed, thanks to this thing. Hypersound is good, but it has been used for a long time, but there are problems with working in the atmosphere, etc. The revolution is YaSU. This is Petrel, Poseidon and Peresvet-laser with this YaSU. This is a qualitative, civilizational leap and breakthrough of civilization. And this is a victory in the Arms Race, and for decades to come. Or maybe we rush first and take over the world. Turn on the brain.

[AUL]

Many ordinary people simply cannot get their hands on what happened, why Putin voiced this, why there was a shock in the West and the East. Why the Zakulis merges the Chinese, why the Chinese elected a king, for the first time in decades, why the USA and the EU overhanged, why peace was announced in Korea, etc. The balance of forces has changed and Korea has not become, then the World Order collapsed, thanks to this thing. Hypersound is good, but it has been used for a long time, but there are problems with working in the atmosphere, etc. The revolution is YaSU. This is Petrel, Poseidon and Peresvet-laser with this YaSU. This is a qualitative, civilizational leap and breakthrough of civilization. And this is a victory in the Arms Race, and for decades to come. Or maybe we rush first and take over the world.

And all this is Kindersurprise ?! Then they gave little, it was necessary, at least, four stars and book a place in the Kremlin wall!

[hrych]

I’m saying that some of them are not even able to assess the scale of achievement, only breast trinkets interest you.

[Mikhail m]

Hero of the Russian Federation (the informal name Hero of Russia is often used) - the state award of the Russian Federation - the highest rank awarded for services to the state and people associated with the achievement of a heroic feat.

Hero of Labor of the Russian Federation - the highest rank of the Russian Federation - state award of the Russian Federation. The title is conferred on citizens of the Russian Federation for special labor services to the state and people related to the achievement of outstanding results in state, social and economic activities aimed at ensuring the well-being and prosperity of Russia.

Do not you think that the title of Hero of Labor is more adequate in this case?

[hrych]

Quote: Mikhail M

Do not you think that the title of Hero of Labor is more adequate in this case?

If this is an outstanding achievement in the framework of the Cold War and the Arms Race, where the existence of an ethnic group and the Victory that this device has achieved is at stake, then the Hero of the Russian Federation is quite adequate.

[Lekov L]

Dear Hrych!
Good morning!
Do not argue, do not tag the beads .. Half of your opponents do not see anyone except themselves and do not hear the opinions of others - for them only their own meaningful.
Has anyone seen this "decree" or heard only that it is secret.
And do not forget, our journalists are such instigators that the word Labor in the title of the award did not notice, because they generally do not know these words
Sincerely.

[hrych]

Good afternoon, Colleague! Undoubtedly, our Rosatom has issued a unique development. This device interests us, and to reward for it and what to reward is the business of the Supreme. He knows better. But there is something to reward, for sure.
Best regards

[lukewarm]

Quote: hrych

And if Kiriyenko is now in the position of Kurchatov.

Kurchatov was a scientist, not an administrator. I'm afraid to ask, then who in the post of Beria?

[Shahno]

Communicated very closely in his youth with ak. Logunov (in an informal setting). There was one opinion about Kurchatov, “yes, he was breaking himself.” So do not equal the sky with the earth, or Kurchatov with Kiriyenko ...

[militia2]

Look on the Internet, did Beria get the Hero for the atomic bomb?

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Militia2

Did Beria receive the Hero for the atomic bomb?

Before you, five times in this very discussion they said no.
What did they want to say ... an unreader?

[ver_]

.. old age is not joy - people fall into childhood - a piece of iron on the chest pleases to the point of impossibility - no matter what the child was amusing, if only he would not become pregnant ..

[lukewarm]

Quote: Mikhail M

We are developing along the classical spiral.

Current here the spiral seems to be downward. Knowing what happened some time later, I do not want to see what awaits us further.

[Humpty]

Boris Nemtsov, among other things, very famous, was a talented physicist. He is considered the author of dozens of scientific papers, some important inventions.
Can in aggregate and partial addition award him? Posthumously.

[Reserve buildbat]

Find the innocent, punish the uncomplicated ... Maybe they immediately Order of Victory?

[ver_]

..after receiving the order of the stoop ..

[tap]

Even Lavrenty Pavlovich Hero of the Union was not given. He was a Hero of Socialist Labor. But he led the creation of nuclear weapons in principle, and not a separate reactor ... The hero is no longer a cake.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: zapfen

Even Lavrenty Pavlovich Hero of the Union was not given. Was a Hero of Socialist Labor

Show me in Russia an analogue of the Order of the Hero of Socialist Labor, I beg
And when it comes to showing you nothing, take yours back to you

Quote: zapfen

The hero is no longer a cake

Shreds

[DEDPIHTO]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Show me in Russia an analogue of the Order of the Hero of Socialist Labor, I beg

Now only such an analogue ... Hero of Kaptrud Will fit?

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: DEPHIHTO

Now only this analog...

You yourself this word
Shah, I don’t feed anymore ... and once already.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Sha, I don’t feed anymore

Feed yourself?

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Quote: Golovan Jack

Sha, I don’t feed anymore

Feed yourself?

Damn ... how is it, with Gogol in "Evenings", "about the devil"? Very similar...
Go drown already, otherwise there’s nothing to feed yourself ... and there’s not enough beer

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Golovan Jack

otherwise there’s nothing to feed yourself

No Kitty, how can I leave you hungry!
PS

Quote: Golovan Jack

"about devil

Old Russian spelling remembered the same?

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Quote: Golovan Jack

"about devil

Old Russian spelling remembered the same?

So with Gogol. I was taught that the classic to misinterpret is bad manners.

Quote: Ingvar 72

how can i leave you hungry

Do not write nonsense. Go better to drown, Friday, beer freezes in the store ... but you still have to earn money
The breadwinner was found, but on you

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Golovan Jack

aka Gogol. I was taught that the classic to misinterpret is bad manners.

At least something like Kisa I like you!

Quote: Golovan Jack

beer is getting cold in the store ... but you still have to earn money

You get paid every day. both in the market and in unloading wagons? Even I have a beer. And I dry the fish myself, now on drying 7 kg. Chekhony.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Ingvar 72

At least something like Kisa I like you

And I don’t ... Osia

Quote: Ingvar 72

You get paid every day. both in the market and in unloading wagons?

Why are you interested in? My salary is mine. Not yours.

Quote: Ingvar 72

Even I have a beer

Well, at least something is good with you ... otherwise you are whining and whining ...
“Even” amused, incidentally, in this text-book.

[Metallurg_2]

Hero of the USSR and Hero of Social Labor - equivalent titles. Only one was given for military merits, and the second for labor. And the Order of Lenin relied on both stars.

[ver_]

.. well Duc, but without God’s choice, there’s no way .. In every barrel, the plug in all areas of the country is khe * phenomenon * is present with a raised hand ..., however, it votes ..

[Karenius]

Quote: zapfen

Even Lavrenty Pavlovich Hero of the Union was not given. He was a Hero of Socialist Labor. But he led the creation of nuclear weapons in principle, and not a separate reactor ... The hero is no longer a cake.

He climbed into it when Pervukhin and Nashik Gayk Avakimyan had already prepared everything ... When some are outraged that Pervukhin also voted against Stalin during Khrushche’s cattle, I want to send them to the library to read how dignified and bold he behaved during the years of general fear. ..

[Siberian]

IMHO: this is a form of providing a state pension for life, heroic merit is not in the business.

[Mountain shooter]

Rosatom is a very successful organization. Mighty and rich. Frozen a few ... Like any BIG firm. But it works. The latest generation of reactors is a work of art, not an engineering structure! And BN reactors that "close" the fuel cycle and many times reduce the amount of hazardous waste ... Worthy of an award, definitely.
And in default - he is not to blame. It’s the same as executing a messenger for bad news. Was he going to GKO?

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Was he going to GKO?

Eugene, do not say such words, take pity on the little animals.
At local alas, patriots from such words, a mozgoff twist can happen.
They never knew, and even managed to forget twenty times what kind of beast this is - T-bills

[faiver]

I agree with you - the “Kindle Surprise” (as it was called then) essentially has a very distant relation to default, he then acted as the “scapegoat”

[DVTamga]

The Kirienka has the same attitude to the achievements of Rosatom.

[faiver]

I don’t defend him, but the manager’s manager’s abilities are sometimes crucial in success, though I don’t know if he possesses them or just a wedding general ...

[Karenius]

Quote: faiver

I agree with you - the “Kindle Surprise” (as it was called then) essentially has a very distant relation to default, he then acted as the “scapegoat”

This is so ... And praise to Yuri Luzhkov that he alone began to cut off the assaults on the boy ...

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

And BN reactors that "close" the fuel cycle and many times reduce the amount of hazardous waste ...

and where do these reactors exist ?! if you're talking about BREST-300 then

On November 11, 2017, the Russian Government excluded the construction of the BREST-300 nuclear reactor in Seversk from the federal target program “New Generation Nuclear Energy Technologies for the Period 2010 - 2015 and for the Perspective until 2020”.

So for now, these are all fantasies - like nuclear-powered cruise missiles. What is the order for ?!

[vadimtt]

What does BREST have to do with it? Just one of the search projects, with a kind of unsuccessful lobbying. And the BN-800 has already been put into operation and based on the results, a decision will be made on the construction of a full-scale version of the BN-1200. And these fast workers do not need very much to really close the nuclear fuel cycle, saving humanity from the piles of highly active radioactive substances.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: vadimtt

And the BN-800 has already been put into operation and based on the results, a decision will be made on the construction of a full-scale version of the BN-1200. And these rapid workers do not need very much to really close the nuclear fuel cycle, saving humanity from the piles of highly active radioactive substances.

BN-800 was developed back in 1983, and BN-1200 according to plan, in a single copy until 2035. And where is Kiriyenko’s merit that already gave the hero’s star

[Vadim237]

A thorium atomic reactor with fusion elements is the achievement of Rosatom and Kiriyenko.

[DVTamga]

..... according to experts, the first hybrid reactor can be created "already in the thirties of this century." Well, yes, that's what we write. But first, ASI will introduce teleportation. Well, then we’ll light up the reactor!

[vadimtt]

Not BN-800 but BN-600 and not in 1983 but in 1980 and not developed but launched
But the trick is different, that since 1990 all our heavy industry began to die abruptly. And by 2005, Rosatom was simply surviving, losing allied companies, contracts, and entire directions, including the fast reactor sector. But with the advent of Kiriyenko, everything gradually changed. And it was possible to preserve the main production capacities and even provide some science. The main merit is in preserving the engineering and labor school (also ensuring continuity), which made it possible not to lose so many technologies. There is no need to go far for examples of what happens when this school is lost - the same states can no longer build energy reactors and steam generators - competencies are lost and there is not a single “Petrovich” left who could tell modern engineers what was meant by that squiggle a completely different squiggle. And the whole chain of sophisticated technology needs to be lifted from scratch, spending fantastic amounts on new research on what has already been researched and worked well.
Here, at least for this, Kiriyenko is worthy of awards, the choice of which of course can be argued, but probably not necessary.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: vadimtt

Not BN-800 but BN-600 and not in 1983 but in 1980 and not developed but launched

What do you argue - "Scientists of the Afrikantov OKBM from Gorky (present Nizhny Novgorod) prepared the project for the fourth power unit of the Beloyarsk NPP back in 1983." http://tehnorussia.su/zavody-i-proizvodstv
a / 268-reaktor-na-bystrykh-nejronakh-bn-800

Quote: vadimtt

And by 2005, Rosatom was simply surviving, losing allied companies, contracts, and entire directions, including the fast reactor sector.

By 2005, Rosatom was fully building for the Hindus “Kudankulam” and “Bushehr” for the Iranians, moreover for real money, and not a loan, such as this Turkish one. What kind of survival ?!

Quote: vadimtt

Here, at least for this, Kiriyenko is worthy of awards, the choice of which of course can be argued, but probably not necessary.

No, the fact that you pointed to the star of the Hero does not pull. Although if Sechin’s son was given second-degree merits for the 25 years, then you can give Kiriyenko a Hero - the theater of the absurd in Putin's Russia

[Mikhail Matyugin]

Quote: Stirbjorn

No, the fact that you pointed to the star of the Hero does not pull. Although if Sechin’s son was given second-degree merits for the 25 years, then you can give Kiriyenko a Hero - the theater of the absurd in Putin's Russia

Wow! Daddy has a palace in London, which is an order of magnitude larger than his official salary, and his son has all his chest in orders for the 25 years?!? Okay so ...

[vadimtt]

Kudankulam really began to build in 2002, it has gained decent pace only since 2007, but in general all this tyagomotin lasted from 1988, this is India. With money there, too, not everything was safe. Bushehr is also that present, construction began already in 1975 and successfully stalled. Then something began to move in 1995, but also that way. As a result, in 2011 they launched but in 2012 one of the MCPs refused and the unit was stopped for repairs. So here, too, a kind of project and not so much money was originally earned on it. So Rosatom didn’t get rich on this and was financially vulnerable. But in general, these projects are quite successful and have become so mainly from 2006-2007, which in general is the service of Kiriyenko, oddly enough.
In addition, I admit the presence of works that we will learn about decades later when the neck drops from them. So the question of the award remains debated, but only in the context of the significance of the award and not its availability.

[asv363]

If Kudankulam was built from scratch, then the Bushehr NPP was originally built by the Germans, who curtailed work after the revolution. Ours had to fit their equipment into other people's RO and MO. Kiriyenko had nothing to do with the process.

[Hadji Murat]

a shame!!!! Does this situation remind you of the 80s? Putin rules already in time as Brezhnev, and now, the awarding of party members for anniversaries and for the fact that the pants sit in chairs, damn heroes .... shame !!

[cariperpaint]

In general, nothing in common. Here it is!

[vkfriendly]

Take an interest in the beginning of the topic, read the resources of who is sitting out his pants, then give a comment, only without nonsense.

[Alex66]

A hero is one who, not looking at difficulties, not hoping for gratitude, is capable of accomplishing a feat without selfishness, whether it be military or labor for the common good. Among modern officials and heads of state corporations, there are none; they receive not a small reward for their work, so what else do they need. In my opinion, this is a profanation of awards, like awarding the hunchback with the Order of St. Andrew the First-Called.

[samarin1969]

Well, at least not some “Stas Mikhailov” or “Alla Pugacheva” and okay. The fact that jesters are regularly awarded is a disgrace to Russian awards.
For those like Kiriyenko, it’s enough to make their honorable “Ann” and “Vladimirov”, rather than give “George”.

[rotmistr60]

"possibly" in connection with the contribution to the election campaign of the president

"Kommersant" in his repertoire. And even Medvedev and Kudrin would not have thought of giving the Hero a contribution to the election campaign (even if he had been) if, for example, one of them had won the election.

[Aleks2048]

The title of the article does not match the content.

[jovanni]

This is a career! From kinder surprise to the heroes of Russia ...

[vkfriendly]

Liberastov draining info with Kommersant should check the FSB. And solder the terms for the disclosure of state. secrets.

[Hagalaz]

To the author minus for the photo to the article. It would be possible to find without an extra character.

[APASUS]

Here, first of all, two points must be considered:
1 There is no fault in the default of Kiriyenko. Chernomyrdin built the GKO pyramid and was just able to leave on time, and they framed Kiriyenko
2 What merits put him at his current job.

[Altona]

Quote: Observer2014

And why not. The technological breakthrough in the Petrel and the EU for nuclear torpedoes is no reason for a reward.

---------------------------
So what? Kiriyenko is equal to Beria? I doubt it. Here they are trending about Chernomyrdin, he set up the virgin de Kinder, and Kinder himself will substitute whoever he likes. Yes, and Rosatom did not reach the parameters declared in the federal program for the development of nuclear energy.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Altona

Altona

Well, the truth-seeker in his repertoire ...
Altona, you do not have real information on the topic. And you can’t have it.
In the days of the GKO, how old were you, are you a local lamp?
I, as an example, at that time worked in a very rather large office, in which the director (by the name of Polovnikov, maybe someone would say that) tried to play these games ... and I already worked very closely with financiers and bukhov in this the office itself. It's a hint, Altona

Quote: Altona

With him, Rosatom never reached the parameters declared in the federal nuclear energy development program.

Altona, in such offices "open" programs - for suckers, didn’t you know before? Grant, if so, own

[Million]

Is this the same Kinder surprise?
"The achievements of Kiriyenko as head of Rosatom include a significant reduction in the operating cost of generating electricity at nuclear power plants"
Just for some reason, for residents of Russia, electricity is getting more expensive 2 times a year

[asv363]

I see no reason for an award of this level. Especially for SV Kirienko, justly called by the people a “kinder surprise”, kindly received by Nemtsov.
Rusks - "Kiriyoshki", I hope everyone remembers!

[Dormidont]

Then Chubais, Kudrin and other Gaidars are three times heroes

[forty-eighth]

Maybe there are secret decrees about them, yet state secrets do not often give heat.

[asv363]

With entry into the chest!

[dedBoroded]

Such cavaliers strongly discredit the high rank of the Hero

[DVTamga]

We do not need such "heroes"!

[Million]

Something MOST Nobody rewards ... Do not deserve it?

[DEDPIHTO]

The modest man and the crown are missing ..

[Graz]

he will reward the people with his name, if according to the results of the board he deserves it, it is more than any orders

[ver_]

Quote: asv363

I see no reason for an award of this level. Especially for SV Kirienko, justly called by the people a “kinder surprise”, kindly received by Nemtsov.
Rusks - "Kiriyoshki", I hope everyone remembers!

... I remember how he dressed up as a samurai - a visit somewhere he was, maybe even to Japan ..

[The Siberian barber]

... for services in the implementation of public procurement of the latest weapons for the Russian Armed Forces ....

These are the heroes now ...

[NordUral]

For kickbacks and overpriced. And to the producers - tears.

[vadimtt]

Of course, you can debate about this award, but!
I perfectly remember a lot of sarcastic comments among nuclear scientists when Kiriyenko led Rosatom.
But years passed and now, among those same people (incidentally, specialists with a capital letter), almost praises sound at Kiriyenko.
So draw conclusions. It was in this industry that Kiriyenko had exceptional competencies, despite the fact that this was not his profile at all.

[Gardamir]

As in the discussion of this article gathered only kremleboty.

[Blue fox]

Kiriyenko worked seriously at Rosatom, the result is also worthy, so he deserved the award, however, since the title of Hero of Socialist Labor was abolished, and there was no equivalent, it could well be made him, for example, the full holder of the Order for Merit to the Fatherland Order (although there are enough businessmen among the awarded), but I didn’t personally risk my life to become the Hero of Russia.

[Jurkovs]

The hero of Russia is a military award, and there is no need to level it. If you deserve it, there are many other awards, the same Andrew the First-Called.

[NordUral]

I don’t know what kind of hero Kiriyenko is, and in the default of 98 his role was a whipping boy. Framed him then, then compensated - remained in the cage of the liberals.

[Graz]

maybe you need to return the title of a hero of labor, I think it would be in this case just right

[Piramidon]

The title of "Hero of Russia" should be awarded for HEROISM. And what heroic deeds did Kiriyenko accomplish? Let him fulfill his duties very well in his WORK. Well done! But in order to note this, there are other state. awards. By the way, he received a salary for this. The title of Hero is depreciating. IMHO

[Pushkar]

As far as I know, the Heroes of the Soviet Union always had a certificate in which there was a description of the feat. It would be interesting to read the certificate of "kinsurprise". "He covered the embrasure of default with his chest"?

[lukewarm]

In the ass! The worse things are in the country, the more Heroes. For several years, Dali Hero Serdyukov did not decide whether or not, here's a new Hero. Also, like a closed decree, whether yes or no. I think that MuDko is not a hero yet - this is a serious oversight. After all, in the quarter finals! So with the kinder. It was put on the atom. Either develop or destroy. Those who work there are inclined to the latter. The dominance of effective managers and economists. In the first comment they write:

It seems like for rockets with nuclear engines. But only the recipient and the award-winner know exactly.

So, because of secrecy, you will not understand whether he is or not, this engine. There is a cartoon, there is PR, there is a name. Like in a fairy tale about the naked king. We can’t finish the Su-57, but we defeated the portable nuclear warhead. Vague doubts torment me. ©
There is a suggestion. If the order of Merit for the Fatherland is not enough for you, libertine rulers, come up with some other “Hero” and reward them with Serdyukov, Kiriyenko, Kadyrov and even Vasilyev with nabiullina and a count in addition. Camarilla from the 90s is rapidly aging and is falling into Brezhnevschina - they hang each other’s heroes for nothing. In this logic, GDP should already be four times Hero
Threat. How it should be insulting to the real Heroes who risked their lives, to tears insulting the relatives of those who are posthumous. And how many heroes did not get this title "for the lack of feat." Everything with us somehow ...

[Vadim237]

Su 57 is stretched because they understand that this plane will become obsolete in five years - for the fourth year in Russia they are creating a sixth generation airplane and what is the point of massively buying an airplane that is by no means superior and almost twice as expensive as Su 35, so VKS will continue to buy Su 35 in anticipation of the sixth generation, and I think Su 57 will have good export prospects.

[Angina]

It’s a pity Mavrodi didn’t live, there are many achievements too

[New Year day]

So much for the Kinder Surprise. I believe that iPhone will soon receive the hero. They did the common thing

[ver_]

Quote: Humpty

Boris Nemtsov, among other things, very famous, was a talented physicist. He is considered the author of dozens of scientific papers, some important inventions.
Can in aggregate and partial addition award him? Posthumously.

... he now doesn’t even need to get close to it - TAM is completely different awards in favor - the material is not quoted because of uselessness ..

[ver_]

Quote: Vadim237

A thorium atomic reactor with fusion elements is the achievement of Rosatom and Kiriyenko.

..and the cockroaches, chi sho are in production - did they contribute the same? ..

[Santor]

I’m surprised ... There is no source ... There are no links from where ... The closed decree goes with the signature stamps of the chipboard or "SECRET" ... And it hits you - not to anyone, but to the pro-Western Kommersant journalists on the table.

I do not discuss the fact of rewarding and what. I just watch how the accompanying materials were served and how it rushed ..... water through all kinds of pipes. Comments from just ridiculous to reserved .. But comment on what?

Unnamed sources obtained a secret order and handed it to reporters?

Those who didn’t serve in the trenches and didn’t drive anything knew that orders of this level were brought out only by definition of “regarding”, while people familiar with the order put a DATE and their own PAINTING on a specific line in a certain line. That is, they bear personal responsibility of the criminal order. Administration does not work here. The minimum for disclosure is dismissal.

That's because sources and not named because they are not. Calculating the circle of employees involved in special services will not be difficult.

Once again - I am not discussing the news itself or its content. Only feed.

A methodological throw-in of news, which is ADVANCED to people containing dozens of accounts, as well as ADVANCED posts and links to public where it will be published ...

As an example, look at the screenshot

[ioan-e]

This is the under-prime minister who took out money in a box from under the printer xerox, and when they took him for a guz, he called phhington to complain?

[Rriv]

For the Baltic NPP in the Kaliningrad region.
How much money has been spent and thrown. Now gas turbines are built and coal is being built.
There is no money, but you hold on.

[free]

I won’t be surprised if they really gave a “hero”, because they gave women fluent behavior from one lousy pop group, I remember that they talked about it here in VO. So I won’t be surprised.

[Boa kaa]

lukewarm,
Pasha, go to the "Made with us" website - get an enlightenment! Maybe a little better? AHA.

[pistachite talionovich]

Address to President Putin
from the Russian World Interdisciplinary Analytical Group

The voice of the people is the voice of God.

The country is mentally torn apart and pushed into an artificially inflamed conflict, preparing for man-made force majeure with subsequent Maidan.
The absolute, hurtful eye of all media Jews on this, cries out for the shameless impunity of the “hiding behind the finger” calls for the overthrow of state power.
Buying off medals before the systemically wrecking “Kiriyen” is a repetition of Yanukovych’s erroneous strategy that turned Ukraine into a bloody mess, obviously unacceptable, and doubly mistaken in the presence of an ultra-efficient eco-social alternative.
Ecosocial reforming, with your slightest support (nodding your head !!!))), from the start (you don’t need any 20 years of calm), will generate in society a sufficient level of passionarity, allow you to implement in one breath the socio - environmental - economic transformations based on Effective Equity, in the framework of the program of spatial expansion of the Russian Federation.
Having begun such transparently Fair TRANSFORMATIONS, the people themselves, with digital technologies (not AK-47), will not allow the continuation of the bureaucratic-corruption-fueled [sic!] Bureaucratic insanity in almost all areas of state building, and if they dare to continue to crap, relying on damaged power places structures, and Shoigu, as evil tongues prophesy, will take a Russophobic position, the grounds for seeking fraternal help of several million “bayonets” will be adequately received by all progressive humanity, solving the same problems of decontamination of the deep state of pests.

THE PROGRAM OF SPATIAL EXPANSION OF RUSSIA, in the eco-social, most effective and least investment-intensive edition, thesis:
- each Russian family - an irreplaceable eco-estate of 1 ha per person,
- High-speed rail network providing their walking accessibility from a city apartment,
- Unconditional Ecosocial Income (multiple of pensions),
- 2-3 weeks resort timeshare, at the best resorts of the country and the world.
- super school and telemedicine,
- applied worldview - methodological tools for the development of humanity, systematically harmonizing the difficult aspects of our many-sided continentality,

THE PROGRAM OF SPATIAL EXPANSION, WHEN FOLLOWING THE SEQUENCE OF DEVELOPMENT STAGES, DOES NOT REQUIRE EXTERNAL (LIQUID) FINANCING.

In the event that our program is not accepted, we Patriots Ministers will transparently renounce your protection when pests hanged with orders, according to the next paragraph of the script, will sing about "Strassburg".

[earloop]

Deserved reward.

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Quote: Jurkovs

The hero of Russia is a military award, and there is no need to level it. If you deserve it, there are many other awards, the same Andrew the First-Called.

... the biggest lover of * iron * on his chest was Brezhnev .. There was a joke - an earthquake - that Brezhnev dropped his tunic ...

[vik669]

Quote from Uncle Lee

If there is anything to reward

It was once FOR WHAT and now who, without anyone there for anything, is simply a good person in a pleasant company!

[Forever so]

They can even kiss themselves on the anus, for the population all these people involved in the crime, members of the organized criminal group who have taken the country to their hop-stop and have been robbing it for 28 years now. Heroes of the Puten race, felts of capitalist robbery.