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Returned to their homeland demob!

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Dedicated to all demobili that carried heavy service for the good of the Fatherland.


Dembel is not just a status, it’s a state of mind of someone who ends his military service in the army or on navy. This is a free bird flying home. Like a "tired submarine from the depths." But he can’t just take and go home according to the charter, otherwise it will not be a celebration of the soul. Of the part of the soldiers he leaves in normal form, and in his hometown or village he puts on such a demobilic “outfit”, which, like the dress for Cinderella, is suitable for one “ball”. And this day he will be remembered for a lifetime. A feeling of freedom, the joy of parents and friends, strong hugs and kisses of the beloved girl. By tradition, a soldier dressed with a needle in a new demobilization uniform walks along his native street, meets friends and acquaintances, everyone is happy to see him, everyone admires him and shakes hands with him. A festive meeting organized by relatives and friends in honor of the return of a soldier from the army is a kind of infusion into life “in civilian life”.

Demob is only once in a lifetime, and even then not at all.

In preparation for their demobilization, many people do not cope with the desire to decorate their military uniforms. Home must also return beautifully, even with chic. And on long nights in the storehouse or in the recreation room silk aglets are trudging, self-made golden shoulder straps, velvet turn-outs are sewn up, and emblems of the branches of the armed forces are made of needle files. Only a few days of this form are worn in the unit itself, before being fired, near the barracks or in location. It is impossible to wear it for a divorce, since this form refers to non-statutory behavior. It is also impossible to go home in it, since the military patrol has the right to detain a soldier in this form. It remains to add all the beauty in a clean bag and carry in a bag. The real purpose of this form is a memory photo in the army and in the first days “in the civilian world”.



In the Soviet Army, above the parade military uniform, they also excelled with terrible force; they made of it a kind of uniform of the generals of the tsarist army. The jacket and trousers were embroidered, the mattress-stitching onto the collar with indispensable arrows for durability was painstakingly attached to the mattress. And also epaulets, cords, chevrons, badges and other knickknacks were used. Boots acquired laces and tassels, signed the belt, the coat of his overcoat was combed into a centimeter 2-3. They made loops of amalgamated copper, carved plexiglas and brass emblems on buttonholes, chevrons, stripes for trousers. Ironed boots received a "moon shimmer" cover.
In general, the idea of ​​a soldier at the end of the service borders does not know ...

Returned to their homeland demob!


Looking at old photos, you realize that the Soviet demobels are just a sample of the statutory relationship to the form. An elegant "diplomat" in his hands, with souvenirs of a native and demobel album. A little jacket is unbuttoned and a wagon at the back of the head is a demob! And note that no one's hands are in their pockets. They taught once, and there was respect for the form. Yes, inserts were made in a different way. Hemming - cellophane, in many layers, and ironed smoothed. From the cap, we took a spring, cut it and sewed two pieces into the edges of the shoulder strap to give it a shape. You can even in the shoulder straps insert pieces from the sawn hulls of the shot "bumblebees". And who, in a simple way, slightly strapped on the parade and rounded the laces through the red thread, he smoothed his boots with wax on the uniform and worked a little on the heel.



For the upcoming demob, which was inevitable, like the sunrise, the fighter began to prepare almost half a year before demobilization, and this was accompanied by a number of rituals. In addition to preparing the dembel form, an important role played and dembelsky photo album. Previously, it was covered with velvet or just a greatcoat and decorated with sawn copper letters. And if the photo “accidentally” hit something that was not supposed to be photographed, then this caused a particular pride of the album owner.


Demob album

In Soviet times, officers for educational work fought zealously with demobilization to decorate the uniform in parts. Now the practice of embellishment has come to naught due to patrols punishing for breaking the uniform, and commanders in units prohibiting servicemen from mocking uniforms.

Psychologists believe that the desire to “decorate” the form in this way seems to have its own reasons. Realizing themselves as cogs in the mechanism of an army vehicle, the soldiers feel their powerlessness, especially in the barracks atmosphere, after the daily hard work. And the difference among the types of troops in which conscripts serve, where there is more or less prestigious, leaves its psychological imprint. Hence the "inferiority complex" and the desire to compensate for it with something. There is an opinion that those who “weapon only held the oath. "

The Defense Ministry claims that the majority of conscripts who have been transferred to the reserve are returning home in uniform. Marines, scouts, marines, sailors, border guards - necessarily. It’s a sin not to show off at least a day in front of friends, friends, relatives and neighbors in a blue or black beret, a green cap or cap. And how not to show people their awards and distinctions? Let them see that he served not in vain. Many cherish the attributes of their service for decades. Not a single day of a paratrooper, border guard or navy can do without the mass appearance of former servicemen of all ages and social positions in combat headgear.

"Sewing troops"

For demobels, these are constant reflections on the topic “how to make a demobee form”. And demand, as we know, creates supply. Recently, there has been a mass of proposals for the sale of a ready-made dembel-form, made to order for any kind of troops by private studios. Designers meet demobels in a big way, demonstrating their design work on the terms of confidentiality.


Photo forms to order

But demobil fashion sometimes goes to extremes and can turn a military uniform into a cross between a hussar and a fancy dress. Except as "meaningless and merciless," this fashion can not be called. Such phenomena mean the existence of the needs of ordinary soldiers in that they have a beautiful dress uniform, so that others pay attention to them. At present, there is no such dress uniform, but there are its self-made “variations” that do not meet the requirements of military aesthetics. This current soldier's fashion is popularly called “sewing troops”. Its essence is in the presence of a hypertrophied decoration elements on the soldiers' front dress and even everyday military uniform. The form is decorated with rich embroidery with white, blue, red or gold cord. Cockades, buckles and buttons are polished to a mirror shine. High stand-up collars are made with thick hemming up to 1 cm, stitched with large stitches with black thread. Decorated with embroidery Sergeant stitches and places for badges. Boots are cut, shod with steel balls or cut dowel-nails. As a result, we see very vivid examples of such possession with a needle and thread that you understand: in school, in the class of work, boys need to devote less hours to learn embroidery. Some people have the idea of ​​embellishment so much that it affects not only the military uniform, but also the aesthetic perception of others. In addition to Russia, this phenomenon has spread in the former republics, in Ukraine and in Kazakhstan.

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  1. Vard
    Vard 5 July 2018 05: 32
    +61
    The royal troops suffered especially from this ... Stroybat ... and when the cat has nothing to do ...
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 5 July 2018 06: 14
      +60
      I got blood from my eyes! belay how is it now to "see"? request but in fact, on the draft board, the psychiatrist mows from the service, such characters need to be treated with electricity.
      1. The black
        The black 5 July 2018 06: 43
        +77
        That's honest. I never understood these clowns. In this form, even now at the gay parade ... laughing
        1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
          Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 5 July 2018 07: 53
          +54
          Some kind of homosexual. Felts hussars, felts gypsies. The incomprehensible form of these sewing forces. But their standard is obvious:
          1. S-kerrigan
            S-kerrigan 5 July 2018 09: 11
            +24
            Against the background of the self-made ones, "the son from below, the daughter from above" looks just like the ideal of restraint :)))
            1. MPN
              MPN 5 July 2018 14: 05
              +33
              Now they come in different ways from the army.
              The son returned from the army. Parents meet him, set the table. Father says:
              - Son, let's drink vodka?
              “No, I'm better than champagne.”
              - Son, do you eat kebab?
              “No, I'm better than sweets.”
              After some time, the son leaves, the father grabs the gun and runs after him. Mother yells:
              - Where are you going?
              - If he pisses sitting, I'll shoot him !!!
          2. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 5 July 2018 10: 05
            +24
            By the way, Zverev served in the army. There was a castle platoon and secretary of the Komsomol organization.)
            1. bandabas
              bandabas 7 July 2018 07: 44
              +2
              It happens. How platoon after such a "castle"?
          3. raw174
            raw174 5 July 2018 14: 24
            +16
            Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
            Felts hussars, felts gypsies.

            Why do you insult the hussars? Well, they had a prim form, but they still fought and fought not bad, they were the elite of their time ... In this case, it’s a shame even for the gypsies)))
          4. aws4
            aws4 6 July 2018 00: 36
            +12
            and here is a very interesting point about homosexual as you put it ... I served in the 90s and a very interesting tendency - healthy village guys who were hard workers couldn’t be reproached with rear-wheel drive to a greater extent and suffered from such nonsense while casting a mold over it .. the smaller the settlement and the farther away from the city the more demobilization became like peacocks .. we few soldiers who were not hooked on this carnival called these demobilization kuguts))))) sometimes it came to senility from these kuguts ... I remember one demobilization that dug up (I bought) a lump (camouflage) for myself, black and white spots, and a summer one, and I found myself not only axelbants but also chyvrons, which plunged everyone into a stupor .. only then we realized that we were serving not just kugut but really a person with serious deviations in my head .. On one form flaunted - special forces, sobr, riot police laughing
            1. APASUS
              APASUS 7 July 2018 12: 40
              +6
              Quote: aws4
              on one form flaunted - special forces, sobr, riot police

              I was on a business trip and we were placed in the same barracks (barracks of two wings) to the royal troops. There were some demobilization. They were gathered in one place from distant garrisons, so that young people would not be mutilated.
              In short, they painted their albums on a demobil at night and one with matches decided to see how much varnish was in the barrel - the barracks burned out and all things with documents were gone. There were no victims, but in the morning the demobilization.
              Dembelems were told that there would be no new form, they were given 2 days to search for the form and put in order, they said they would not touch it for the discrepancy.
              It’s bad that in those days there was no camera in every phone. I would show you sea admirals in mountain gorges!
            2. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 8 July 2018 12: 29
              +4
              Quote: aws4
              on one form flaunted - special forces, sobr, riot police

              Everything to conquer the fair sex! Alpha male, macho, superman, hero of the first and second Punic wars came home from service! The girls fall at his feet and fall back down! wink
              1. Severok
                Severok 8 July 2018 20: 25
                +2
                With a laugh. Then any girl with the appearance of such a clown will fall!
        2. 210ox
          210ox 5 July 2018 09: 10
          +19
          I “embroidered” these “clowns” (or rather, they did it themselves in public) on patrol .. And that was in the Soviet Army, maybe not so brightly according to the cockerel ..
          Quote: Black
          That's honest. I never understood these clowns. In this form, even now at the gay parade ... laughing
          1. conservative
            conservative 5 July 2018 11: 05
            +17
            I “embroidered” these “clowns” (or rather, they did it themselves in public) on patrol .. And that was in the Soviet Army, maybe not so brightly according to the cockerel ..


            The only thing I support in all this sewing fumes is demobilization albums

            and for the rest - there is a separate circle of hell demobilic. They embroidered there go in a circle for a million years
          2. ARES623
            ARES623 8 July 2018 11: 37
            +4
            Quote: 210ox
            I "embroidered" these "clowns"

            In most cases, these are normal guys. But the lack of elementary culture, the concept of beauty in this case does its “black" thing. So "parrots" are born, despite the fact that the author just thinks that it is beautiful and appropriate. A sense of taste is instilled in childhood. I personally do not see a direct connection with the “drive”.
        3. Gnom1272
          Gnom1272 5 July 2018 22: 29
          +7
          I agree )))
          DMB 96. The only "foreign objects on the form were ...
          1. steel wire in epaulettes (bent norms and shaped)
          2.white silk under the chevron + plastic crap (it is not known why it was twisted .. but it was enough for the whole platoon))))) she also shoved in epaulettes)))
          3. Well .. boots beaten off by a pea, we don’t even focus on it, at most there were)))
          4. on a cap officer spikelet
          Yes, like that)))
          treated without fanaticism ... without rowdy on the train ...
          patrol docks checked and freely released)))
          and now look ... this is PPC ...)))))
        4. Pax tecum
          Pax tecum 6 July 2018 13: 42
          +7
          Within the framework of military aesthetics (established forms), in the range of field and dress uniforms (for choice, so to speak), one can and should (!) Look beautiful and flawless. The military uniform already disposes of this. Tightness and alignment will do the trick.

          PS Organisms in the photo in the article are an obvious bust in the fight against their complexes. The lack of modesty does not color them. laughing
          This is not serious...

          PSS Many, by the way, preferred (in my time, conscription services in the middle of the 1990's, the Airborne Forces) to go home in civilian, taking with them only takes an album.
          1. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 6 July 2018 15: 54
            +3
            Quote: Pax tecum
            Many, by the way, preferred (in my time, conscription services in the mid-1990s, the Airborne Forces) to go home in civilian, taking with them only takes an album.

            That is exactly what I did (96-98). In memory - only takes, belt, gyus. True, the “citizen” I was cunning - through some manipulations I remade my overcoat (by the way, it was an officer, freshly tailoring) into a good long-field coat. good Later, in civilian life, many did not believe that this was an overcoat, until I showed chlorine branding on my inner pocket. After the army he wore it for another six years. laughing And of course, some of us suffered a similar “garbage-demolition” in our unit, but there were an order of magnitude more adequate - half of the l / s was from St. Petersburg, a fellow countryman.
          2. prapor55
            prapor55 6 July 2018 16: 47
            +1
            In 91 from Germany, such people left, but 3,2,1, M were a special fetish among the citizens of Uzbekistan. After landing in Minsk, a lot of shape remained on the plane.
          3. ltc35
            ltc35 7 July 2018 05: 30
            +2
            So it was bro! He left in 92 for a citizen from Ukraine from Bolgrad. In the bag lay an album and, well, a camouflage with signs. Of the busters, only a chevron with years of service, and a home-made corner on a beret. There was no time for such a perversion, and it wasn’t customary for us to paint the form like that.
      2. Serge Gorely
        Serge Gorely 5 July 2018 10: 46
        +5
        The article is out of date. There are no conscripts in the border troops
      3. tap
        tap 5 July 2018 14: 28
        +11
        Cuttings from shovels to hands - and to a mental attack in this form. Beauty is a terrible force. The enemy will wet his pants from fear. Or from laughter. In any case, it will lose combat readiness.
      4. RASKAT
        RASKAT 5 July 2018 20: 53
        +16
        Laughed for thirty minutes, ate and pumped out. To the author plus.
        I saw a lot of such freaks in the vast country, but one individual sunk into my memory for a long time. A running line of air defense of the DMB 2010 ran along the mines of a depressed form on his cap. :)
      5. Maki Avellevich
        Maki Avellevich 7 July 2018 07: 23
        +2
        very humiliating. I have not heard of such mods.
        how sub culture is interesting but for the army a little extravagantly I would say.
        our clowns have about this fashion. photo session with scissors
        1. Pushkar
          Pushkar 7 July 2018 11: 39
          +1
          It’s a little unclear what kind of certificate it is and why they are doing something with it.
          1. Maki Avellevich
            Maki Avellevich 7 July 2018 20: 41
            +3
            Quote: Pushkar
            It’s a little unclear what kind of certificate it is and why they are doing something with it.

            This is IDF soldier’s ID. scissors mean that demobilization wanders nearby (cut the card supposedly)
    2. BecmepH
      BecmepH 5 July 2018 06: 20
      +37
      Quote: Vard
      The royal troops suffered especially from this ... Stroybat ... and when the cat has nothing to do ...

      And now the Minister of Defense is setting an example. Is his form very different from the "demobilization"? And the form of the Ministry of Emergencies?)) They walk like roosters (birds) colorful
      1. Basil50
        Basil50 5 July 2018 07: 26
        +9
        And the Minister of Defense and other ministers, and not only for status and security, have special limousines and much more. What is rare when bankers and other * masters of life * roll out with guards and accompanied by a motorcade * of bodyguards * with * tiligent * faces? How long have raspberry-colored jackets been? And the chains with the crosses that the brothers have the priests? And the golden teeth?
        The boys simply noted the end of * debt * home. As they know how and celebrate. It’s not the majors that they slanted from the ARMY. They honestly served, let them pamper themselves and loved ones.
        1. konstantin68
          konstantin68 5 July 2018 08: 22
          +44
          Vasily, do you really think so?
          Quote: Vasily50
          let yourself and loved ones be pampered.

          It would never occur to a normal person to appear in this form.
          These mockery of the uniform usually affected the "warriors", who had nothing to do with real army training. Here faded from the sun, sweat and constant washings, but smoothed and hemmed "hb" would be to face these "boys". Those in the subject would understand them. And so just a travesty show, indeed.
          1. Basil50
            Basil50 5 July 2018 09: 53
            +3
            68
            Well, make a complaint to everyone else. And the ministers who are simply obliged to WORK and the deputies and the president and of course priests of all ranks. So that their work was visible in washing shirts and suits with stains from sweat.
            1. konstantin68
              konstantin68 5 July 2018 18: 02
              +1
              Quote: Vasily50
              68
              Well, make a complaint to everyone else. And the ministers who are simply obliged to WORK and the deputies and the president and of course priests of all ranks. So that their work was visible in washing shirts and suits with stains from sweat.

              Do our ministers and the president go with priests, as in the photo above? Although, maybe the term "with us" is a key word.
          2. t-4
            t-4 5 July 2018 14: 09
            +2
            It would never occur to a “normal person” (civilian) to move around the “territory of work” either by drill or by run.
            The army is a closed, "not normal" place from the point of view of a citizen.
            This is not a normal tradition - to embroider a form. In civilian fashion, no one is embroidering jackets when they are fired from work.
            Let the boys make fun, served their own. And by the way, it’s also a tradition to run from patrols and “shredders” of uniforms.
            1. konstantin68
              konstantin68 6 July 2018 07: 30
              +3
              Quote: t-4
              It would never occur to a “normal person” (civilian) to move around the “territory of work” either by drill or by run.

              This is where so move? Only through the parade ground (according to the charter, de facto no). Does the author of the army have any idea?
              Civilian-normal means, but the army-not really, in your opinion? An interesting theory, similar to the writings of office plankton. Sorry if that.
              1. t-4
                t-4 6 July 2018 23: 45
                -1
                He sent a spirit demobilization for cigarettes to fly. A stall behind the fence. And then a patrol.
                Spirit - three days of arrest. They drove the "arrested" in the back of the car somewhere,
                and take our Spirit with a fool and jump overboard. In response, the queue from the machine. All according to the charter.
                Cargo 200.

                So the boy went to the army. Normal situation in terms of civil? Why were they shot?
                1. dauria
                  dauria 8 July 2018 17: 41
                  +1
                  . Normal situation in terms of civil? Why were they shot?


                  Why confuse the "point of view"? There are "separate" war crimes. They are sometimes very different from civilians. It is unclear only where you happened. An officer with a PM-m and 2 soldiers with bayonet-knives usually went to patrol. The machine was issued only where it is really needed. Running away from a person with AK is the height of stupidity.
                  1. t-4
                    t-4 9 July 2018 14: 55
                    0
                    It was no longer a patrol, but a guard transporting those arrested. And when trying to escape from under arrest from a vehicle while driving, the weapon is used without warning and to defeat.
          3. vredlo
            vredlo 5 July 2018 18: 36
            +1
            68 I, of course, wildly apologize, but to come home in the form of a second period of socks, as it is not that, I have not one hb faded (some teachings 4 pieces), but I was driving home in a new one, only from the parade on May 9, uniform and all sorts of pendants and were not welcomed, as the brigade commander said, they will catch everyone from the blood type to the size of the (genital) war pancake
            1. konstantin68
              konstantin68 6 July 2018 07: 24
              0
              Quote: vredlo
              68 I, of course, wildly apologize, but to come home in the form of a second period of socks, as it is not that, I have not one hb faded (some teachings 4 pieces), but I was driving home in a new one, only from the parade on May 9, uniform and all sorts of pendants and were not welcomed, as the brigade commander said, they will catch everyone from the blood type to the size of the (genital) war pancake

              I didn’t say “come”, I said “it would be to face”, instead of this gay outfit.
        2. Pushkar
          Pushkar 7 July 2018 11: 52
          0
          Quote: Vasily50
          As they know how and celebrate. It’s not the majors that they slanted from the ARMY. They honestly served, let them pamper themselves and loved ones.
          This is a demobilization. 50 years from the date of taking the oath. And teclowns who do not respect their service and uniform.
          1. shura7782
            shura7782 8 July 2018 16: 59
            0
            Sorry, I saw this photo somewhere.
            Are these cadets of the Dinaburg Fortress?
      2. raw174
        raw174 5 July 2018 14: 27
        +2
        Quote: BecmepH
        And the form of the Ministry of Emergencies?))

        Have you seen the uniform of a veterinarian? And I saw the Emergencies Ministry generals nervously running to sew epaulettes!
    3. Oberon_13
      Oberon_13 5 July 2018 22: 04
      +8
      Dear Vard, I quietly demobilized in December 1993 from the GUS (construction battalion) and arrived home without any show off in the usual form. There was not even a demobilization album. A pack of photos with you in your bag. Those who suffered the most in the construction battalion were representatives of the North Caucasus.
  2. kalibr
    kalibr 5 July 2018 05: 56
    +8
    And they say that the "Pareto law" does not work! It works and how. 80% of people, well, clearly "of that." Who is more, who is less. Including demobilization!
  3. Conductor
    Conductor 5 July 2018 06: 05
    +7
    A parrot of some kind, in 1992, demobilized. BUT I have not seen this. Yes, they did, especially remrot and RMO. and not particularly zealous.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 5 July 2018 06: 58
      +7
      Quote: Conductor
      in 1992 demobilized

      So do I. And although he served in the construction battalion, he did not see such a clowning. With truth, it was not by truth that he obtained from the divisional ensign the "Afghan" glass and officer boots. Then her troops only began to enter. So I went home.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 5 July 2018 07: 14
        +10
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        I also

        * also
        Or is it you again -
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        ... I deliberately write this, for it corresponds to the grammar of the Russian language before the Lunacharsky reform ...

        Quote: Ingvar 72
        served in the construction battalion

        belay What is this for you? Strange, weird ...
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Not true

        * not true
        Not exactly you "Russian" Yes
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 5 July 2018 07: 20
          +20
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          * also

          Quote: Golovan Jack
          not true

          Again Kitty nitpicking to grammar, not to the point. When will you finally recover? wink
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 5 July 2018 07: 22
            +12
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Kisa again picking on grammar

            This is not nitpicking. Your (and not only yours) eyelids annoy me, ahem. Well, like dirty shoes, for example. You probably do not understand this request
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            When will you finally recover?

            I am healthy, cheerful and cheerful. Now I’m going to work, it’s funny here right now ... Osia wink
            PS: So what about the “Lunacharsky reform”?
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 5 July 2018 07: 29
              +16
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              This is not nitpicking. Your (and not only yours) eyelids annoy me, ahem. Well, like a stain of dirt on a wall, for example. You probably do not understand this

              I am more annoyed by stupid and meaningless comments. wink And according to typos - sometimes people make mistakes, so what? Some write from smartphones, there are no errors there.
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              PS: So what about the “Lunacharsky reform”?

              Yes, your phenomenon is incurable. request
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 5 July 2018 07: 34
                +11
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                sometimes people make mistakes, so what?

                And then there are people who themselves are a mistake wink
                How did you get into the construction battalion? With physics, you (as you say) seem to be normal, not Uzbek or Tajik ...
                Strange somehow it's all request
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 5 July 2018 07: 44
                  +12
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  And then there are people who themselves are a mistake

                  Communicating with you, I am constantly convinced of this! good
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  How did you get into the construction battalion?

                  Why are you interested in? wink But seriously, the vision is poor, and was registered in the DCM without interruptions until the army. laughing
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 5 July 2018 07: 48
                    +7
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    And then there are people who themselves are a mistake

                    Communicating with you, I am constantly convinced of this!

                    It is good that communicating with me helps you see your shortcomings.
                    There is still hope that over time they (shortcomings) will become smaller, or even completely disappear.
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    Why are you interested in?

                    Yes, purely for fun ... I understood about vision, my sympathies.
                    That's all, there is no time for me to sharpen my hair here with you - the pipe, you know, is calling.
                    PS: not sewer laughing
                    1. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 5 July 2018 07: 52
                      +8
                      Quote: Golovan Jack
                      It’s good that communicating with me helps you see your shortcomings.

                      Mania of greatness does not allow you to make out your own. wink
                      Quote: Golovan Jack
                      the pipe, you know, is calling

                      Similarly kitty! Arbeiten - Arbeiten.
                    2. free
                      free 5 July 2018 10: 58
                      +4
                      Quote: Golovan Jack
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Quote: Golovan Jack
                      And then there are people who themselves are a mistake

                      Communicating with you, I am constantly convinced of this!

                      It is good that communicating with me helps you see your shortcomings.
                      There is still hope that over time they (shortcomings) will become smaller, or even completely disappear.
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Why are you interested in?

                      Yes, purely for fun ... I understood about vision, my sympathies.
                      That's all, there is no time for me to sharpen my hair here with you - the pipe, you know, is calling.
                      PS: not sewer laughing

                      Again you jack your mouth in the wind rinse.
                      1. conservative
                        conservative 5 July 2018 11: 09
                        +3
                        Again you jack your mouth in the wind rinse.


                        and now you wrote a very valuable and significant comment

                        I couldn’t even pass by

                        I’m sitting and thinking that you’re looking in the wind and I can’t even think of
                      2. free
                        free 5 July 2018 11: 12
                        +4
                        conservative (Alexander) Today, 11:09 ↑
                        Again you jack your mouth in the wind rinse.
                        and now you wrote a very valuable and significant comment

                        And you were probably sitting in wait, waiting for me in any way? laughing
                  2. kvs207
                    kvs207 5 July 2018 08: 49
                    +3
                    The man does not understand that different people served in the construction battalion, as well as in the more "prestigious" troops. For example, in our school (Plavsk, if that), a man who worked at the Military Project in Moscow and didn’t get out of the parade served.
  4. dog breeder
    dog breeder 5 July 2018 06: 16
    +1
    There was nothing like it. Fleece overcoat, heels, "iconostasis" and nothing more.
    1. klm-57
      klm-57 5 July 2018 06: 48
      0
      Fleece overcoats were "practiced" by those who came from military service, this was not accepted in military universities, especially among officers.
      1. dog breeder
        dog breeder 5 July 2018 07: 48
        +2
        You are right, the article just speaks of military service.
    2. raw174
      raw174 5 July 2018 14: 35
      +1
      Quote: dog breeder
      There was nothing like it. Fleece overcoat, heels, "iconostasis" and nothing more.

      I just removed and cleaned the overcoat ... From my unregistered one: the black shoulder strap was sewn from the overcoat, it is authorized, it’s just not for the front coat, under the shoulder strap, on the sleeve, the inscription: “Sevastopol” and the berets are not ours, but Ukrainian, they are real better, because it’s kind of American. Everything, the rest is according to the charter, but the uniform (PS) was brand new, fitted in the studio, also took a new one, bought, those that were issued were very large.
  5. Strashila
    Strashila 5 July 2018 06: 16
    +8
    The foreman was bad, there was a lot of time for idleness.
    1. Vladivostok1969
      Vladivostok1969 5 July 2018 07: 39
      +8
      You won’t see patrols at train stations anymore. Previously, such patrol parrots were scared like fire. In a moment, they would cut off all unnecessary things.
  6. klm-57
    klm-57 5 July 2018 06: 19
    +20
    This form does not cause anything but laughter. Speckled like roosters. He served 30 years, before that he studied for five years at a military university. In our country, a shape that was sized, clean and smooth was considered a sign of good taste. Some (who came to study after the army) had a habit of ironing their boots, but this was not a universal phenomenon. Shoulder straps were made with inserts (so as not to crinkle), visors of caps were slightly sutured, nothing more. They treated the form very respectfully.
    1. SHURUM -BURUM
      SHURUM -BURUM 5 July 2018 06: 32
      +9
      Bah! ... Look what clowns (C). Nowadays, curfews would have been removed from the platform. They wouldn’t have time to board the train. Creative guys. laughing
      1. klm-57
        klm-57 5 July 2018 06: 40
        +5
        If you served and live in the Arbat military district, then I agree. In the outback, morals are softer. However, in any case, the form must be treated with respect. As for clowns, I don’t take it to myself and our graduates. We did not scoff at the form.
  7. samarin1969
    samarin1969 5 July 2018 06: 26
    +8
    We had an intelligent foreman in the company, who always contemptuously spoke about such “hussars”. This childish infantilism in the SA was certainly not the biggest problem. Chefs-smashers- "paratroopers" - "KMS" and, surely - all "guardsmen" amused. smile
  8. Per se.
    Per se. 5 July 2018 06: 33
    +8
    All these "cock" ridiculous embellishments were not in the least from idleness and stupidity, and in that, from the outdated, not comfortable and not beautiful form. To all, the system of rewards and rewards was not thought out. As practice shows, the same "krapovy beret", as part of the uniform, can become an element of prestige, obtained legally, and in a bitter struggle. Similar could be with the aglet, various stripes, badges, but for the work in self-improvement, for excellent service. This is necessary, and the system of incentives and rewards must be developed, including in the well-considered and legalized elements of prestige expressed in uniform.
  9. kvs207
    kvs207 5 July 2018 06: 52
    +5
    Quote: Vard
    The royal troops suffered especially from this ... Stroybat ... and when the cat has nothing to do ...

    Just do not. Yes, of course, there were those, but to mass? The construction battalion was served mainly by Central Asians, who did not give a damn about it, and in general, when "on the spade" was all 2 years old, then, honestly, there was no time for demobilization perversions.
    He himself served in the VSS (DMB-86) and went into demobilization in civilian life and with a bunch of photos, instead of an album.
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 5 July 2018 07: 04
    +9
    Photos are a sample of the coloring of the following "pictures" for preschool children. You do not perceive otherwise. In the 70-80s, the guys could only afford that extra icon, but a careful attitude to form and behavior was maintained. Each time has its own twist depending on the state of the country.
    1. anatoly57
      anatoly57 6 July 2018 05: 53
      +2
      DMB 1979, from the excesses in the form of only inserts into the carriages, a sewn Dutchwoman, flared pants, inserts, an sewn peakless cap on trousers. There are a minimum of badges, there are a lot of badges in the fleet in a bad tone. Nobody thought about the accelerants.
  11. parusnik
    parusnik 5 July 2018 07: 29
    +4
    Soldier kitsch ... Not modest and there is no taste whatsoever ...
  12. Conductor
    Conductor 5 July 2018 07: 49
    +4
    The border guards did not sin in excesses. I have elders in the area (call 1982 to 1986), many in the border troops. ordinary parades well icons. and that’s it. And this, mmmm, bad taste.
  13. Ham
    Ham 5 July 2018 07: 55
    +2
    as I understand it - most of the pictures are from Kazakhstan))) they love tinsel there ... and what would glisten so that they would see from space !;) there is even ukrodembel ...
    1. Conductor
      Conductor 5 July 2018 08: 30
      +6
      Ukrdembel is gorgeous !!! It is necessary to concoct such a hat. And can he come from armored cavalry units?
    2. NikolaiN
      NikolaiN 5 July 2018 18: 57
      +6
      Kazakh without show-offs - bespontovy Kazakh! :) But, I think, the passion for decorating is still international ...
  14. Dead hand
    Dead hand 5 July 2018 08: 37
    +3
    yelling at the monitor for a long time)))) ... the cat ran under the chair ... and my eyes burst completely))))
  15. demo
    demo 5 July 2018 08: 50
    +4
    Not a single day of a paratrooper, border guard or navy is complete without the mass appearance of former servicemen of all ages and social positions in combat hats.
    And what is a combat headgear?
    There is a charter, there is a uniform.
    Helmet for a tankman and a helmet to protect the head during hostilities can be attributed to combat.
    Is the rest from the category of a "loud word"?
    Well, they will write, so they will write.
  16. Declarant
    Declarant 5 July 2018 08: 50
    +2
    He served in the construction battalion (namely, the construction battalion OSTB1684). Such garbage did not suffer. He left for a demobilization in the spring of 1990. He went in winter uniform. The only retreat: with the parade, they wore boots that were broken off and polished with an iron and wax. Heels were turned. Heels with brazed hard alloy (cool sparkled at night on asphalt). I drove with a stop in Moscow and Samara. Documents by patrols were checked more than once. There were no complaints to me.
  17. BAI
    BAI 5 July 2018 08: 56
    +6
    Michael Jackson laughed - did not see this. What a stage image would be. But honestly, for 20 years of service I have not seen anything like this alive. Here were the demobilization albums.
    1. kalibr
      kalibr 5 July 2018 09: 57
      0
      At one time, he collected samples of demobilization uniforms and also wanted to write an article ... But my friend artist Zeynalov got ahead of me. He was in the army only doing that, drawing demobilization albums and doing all sorts of gadgets. Two of his articles on this topic were published in the magazine Secrets of the twentieth century. So this topic "disappeared" from me. But it was, although, probably, everywhere differently. For example, ribbons to the heels of sailors, beaten with kopeks (!), Boots with a bell in his heels ... Epaulets sprinkled with finely cut copper wire, tanks and brass missiles under the Komsomol badge.
  18. stas-xnumx
    stas-xnumx 5 July 2018 09: 07
    +2
    Our brothers were Kazakhs killed me, and our eagles too :) You can’t scoff at the form like that ... We also cried, but not in such wild colors and colors. Maximum crab on a visor under the screen, and the warhead sign from plexiglass. DMB-93 KSF
  19. cariperpaint
    cariperpaint 5 July 2018 09: 29
    +7
    I always thought it was such a game. I also found similar individuals. What was found burned to hell. And there was one reason - we were ashamed that someone would see our soldiers in this form. I would burn with shame
  20. Geonezis
    Geonezis 5 July 2018 09: 37
    +4
    Complete nonsense. Normal people such an "obscene word" never suffered and never suffer.
  21. Igoresha
    Igoresha 5 July 2018 09: 51
    +1
    Whatever the child would amuse, if only he would not hang himself))) However, Shoigu also shone in the new tunic, a la the Stalin era.
    They would take an example from the movie "Star Wars", where minimalism is practical for space pilots officers))
  22. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 5 July 2018 09: 58
    +8
    From personal experience ... In the early nineties being in a patrol drew attention to the sailor. He importantly deflated along the main street with a view of the admiral. But at the same time, he had a height of about sixty meters, the peakless cap was held on the back in an unimaginable way, and the 1.5 meter ribbons from her practically touched his heels. They stopped, checked the documents, it turned out that he was already registered and went out to show off in uniform. They let go, but with a last glance I noticed that at the ends of the ribbons are anchored expertly sawn and chiseled from brass ....
  23. Senior seaman
    Senior seaman 5 July 2018 10: 16
    +2
    Personally, I was not keen on this and got off in civilian life ... but my friend - Romki Gavora from Ivano-Frankivsk somehow asked what he was trying to do so ... I must say the answer was surprising.
    - I’ll sell to the Poles.
    - And what for them?
    And then he told me that our western neighbors have a nice custom to hang in the front corner (as if not next to the deity) a thread of a beautiful shape. It is clear that the hussar is now gone, the cavalry guards have been swirled, so that the sailor’s embroidered with galunas and tridents will come down. I hope he succeeded. wink
    Yes, I was demobilized in 1994 from Sevastopol. The Black Sea Fleet was joint. Russia and Ukraine.
  24. shubin
    shubin 5 July 2018 10: 42
    +5
    Get fucked up! In my times (DMB-81) even the transverse fold on the back of a tunic was considered a violation! wassat
  25. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 5 July 2018 10: 42
    +5
    I looked at the photo ..... my mother ... I immediately remembered the lines from the song of Vladimir Semenovich:
    "Oh, Zin, look what clowns!" ..... trouble is trouble .... oh trouble .....))))) at one time, well, he beat off his hat on the volumes of Lenin in such a way that a dice ... a worm it was ironed so I never saw it again ... the overcoat was a little combed .. but so ... well ... now the son is in the army, in November he was on a demobilization ..... he asked like and what .. and he and I are on a contract and no demobilization such garbage ...
  26. free
    free 5 July 2018 10: 54
    +4
    The circus left the clowns remained.
  27. Barzha
    Barzha 5 July 2018 11: 01
    +5
    Parrots from the Amazon Selva look more modest! )))) Absolute tastelessness !!!
  28. Barzha
    Barzha 5 July 2018 11: 06
    +3
    Quote: stas-21127
    Our brothers were Kazakhs killed me, and our eagles too :) You can’t scoff at the form like that ... We also cried, but not in such wild colors and colors. Maximum crab on a visor under the screen, and the warhead sign from plexiglass. DMB-93 KSF

    DMB-91 CTOF. In our country, the “greyhound” was considered when an anchor was still inserted into the crab, the БЧ-5 sign embroidered with silk thread, and some accelerating armor were ordered. But not a makeshift, like these parrots, but a real ceremonial.
  29. navy33
    navy33 5 July 2018 11: 25
    +6
    Greetings to all! Yeah, judging by the photos the guys had a very difficult service, how many regalia ... like the Gascons laughing
  30. shubin
    shubin 5 July 2018 11: 29
    +6
    One thought haunts me, can these uniform stupid people do not understand how funny they look? Well, what a mental retardation you need to be to think that it is beautiful and cool. request
    1. shubin
      shubin 5 July 2018 11: 32
      +6
      They do not give things in their own names, but it is a pity.
  31. Tolik_74
    Tolik_74 5 July 2018 12: 10
    +6
    I looked at the photo and it’s funny to become, really, the current generation considers it beautiful. 30 years ago, their colleagues would have laughed at such a demobilization form. DMB-87 UrVO.
  32. Yutas
    Yutas 5 July 2018 12: 12
    +3
    Yeah ... I haven’t been laughing like that for a long time !! )))) The mood was great raised)))
  33. nekromonger
    nekromonger 5 July 2018 12: 21
    +1
    as if their idol, Sergey Zverev. fucked Ekibastuz.
  34. vvvjak
    vvvjak 5 July 2018 12: 41
    +3
    DMB 98 was the best present for my birthday. Already in the morning in civilian life, and by evening drunk on a regular bus. In the bag is a new "Afghan" (traded for a bottle of vodka), which I still use in the country.
  35. Dashing
    Dashing 5 July 2018 12: 58
    +6
    What disgusting mummers are cockerels. This is not from a great mind, but from a great idleness. In artillery, we joked so that our arms and "stand-up" are still "aching." "Sight 20, rear 120, battery fire! Wham, bam - and by." This, of course, is a joke, but the shells were dragging, the guns were banned, the materiel was well-known and proud that the real sergeant Joseph Kobzon served in the artillery. On the demobilization, I, like my call, went fitted, sewn - hemmed and polished, as required by the Charter of the SA. So that seeing us and their relatives rejoice, and different garbage from the Bundeswehr and the US Army mourned - "Gunners, Stalin gave the order!" And no cords and bows, you know. But the "diplomats" were, that's for sure.
  36. Clone
    Clone 5 July 2018 13: 11
    +1
    Indeed ... when there is nothing to do, the cat licks its eggs.
    A bunch of mentally ill clowns engaged in perversion due to sheer idleness ...
  37. aloleggry
    aloleggry 5 July 2018 13: 15
    +1
    Quote: konstantin68
    Vasily, do you really think so?
    Quote: Vasily50
    let yourself and loved ones be pampered.

    It would never occur to a normal person to appear in this form.
    These mockery of the uniform usually affected the "warriors", who had nothing to do with real army training. Here faded from the sun, sweat and constant washings, but smoothed and hemmed "hb" would be to face these "boys". Those in the subject would understand them. And so just a travesty show, indeed.

    I had a faded hb, and a little, and gouged boots, but they didn’t let me go home.
  38. Katran
    5 July 2018 13: 47
    +2
    There is a proposal - let's show photos of their "man-made" demob albums.
    I don’t have an album here, only a black and white photo ... and an aigulant woven of white threads))
    Cadet of the Navy of the USSR 91. Sevastopol
  39. aszzz888
    aszzz888 5 July 2018 13: 48
    +2
    ... my eyes would not see it ... cocks ... bully
  40. tolyasik0577
    tolyasik0577 5 July 2018 13: 50
    +5
    In the distant 86th, a close person returned from service in the Soviet army. was at the parade-tunic with honors and even different degrees, and with accelerants. To me, a boy of 11 years old, it seemed just unrealistically cool. It looked good, despite the fact that there were no perversions. All strictly according to the charter. Remember there was such a telecast on Sunday- "Serving the Soviet Union" The screensaver was where the buglers in full uniform blew their trumpets. In my opinion, the form was pretty beautiful.
  41. Altona
    Altona 5 July 2018 14: 13
    +3
    Thanks to the author, neighing from the heart. The smaller the person, the more strongly she wants to express herself, at least in clothes and excessive tasteless jewelry. Now consider the case.
    In Russia, epaulettes were introduced in 1803. Until 1854, epaulettes were the only type of shoulder insignia for officers and generals, and since 1827, with the introduction of epaulettes, it was possible to determine the rank of the owner from them. Since 1854, epaulettes gradually go to the periphery of Russian army clothing, although they do not completely disappear. By 1913, epaulettes continued to be an integral part of the parade uniform of officers and generals, although the number of cases for which this uniform should be worn was reduced to a minimum.
    Officers and generals, Karl! Let the pre-revolutionary! But by no means ordinary soldiers were decorated with epaulettes! laughing
    Now about the accelerators. Private soldiers also have them, but:
    In the Armed Forces of Russia, the accelerant is an accessory of the dress uniform of the personnel of the guard of honor, the dress uniform of the dress of ceremonial calculations.
    In general, what for a goat button accordion, if there is an accordion. Everything should be according to the ranks and positions and in accordance with the circumstances. I put on regalia, and brains only within the framework of high school. laughing laughing
  42. Altona
    Altona 5 July 2018 14: 20
    +3
    Quote: tolyasik0577
    In the distant 86th, a close person returned from service in the Soviet army. was at the parade-tunic with honors and even different degrees, and with accelerants. To me, a boy of 11 years old, it seemed just unrealistically cool. It looked good, despite the fact that there were no perversions. All strictly according to the charter. Remember there was such a telecast on Sunday- "Serving the Soviet Union" The screensaver was where the buglers in full uniform blew their trumpets. In my opinion, the form was pretty beautiful.


    Yeah, far 1986. That's how it was in those years. Here are shots from the 1986 Courier movie. How youth expressed themselves at that time.
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  43. Zaits
    Zaits 5 July 2018 14: 44
    +5
    Quote: t-4

    ...
    This is not a normal tradition - to embroider a form.
    ...

    I do not know how it is now, but in Soviet times this tradition covered only a small part of the personnel. Basically, a dense hillbilly was exposed to this, having got to warm places like a stoker, etc. The rest simply did not have time for this. Or it was smart enough to understand the degree of stupidity of this tradition.
    Most of all lit up by representatives of individual union republics. Somehow I especially remember Moldovans.
  44. Altona
    Altona 5 July 2018 14: 58
    0
    Quote: vvvjak
    In the bag is a new "Afghan" (traded for a bottle of vodka), which I still use in the country.

    ----------------------------
    It was lucky that the figure did not disperse in civilian life. And then usually soldier 48 will not fit on a 52-54 torso size anymore. laughing
  45. AleBors
    AleBors 5 July 2018 15: 16
    +1
    It’s ridiculous. All these “sewing and cutting courses” are from idleness. Oh, I'm not their foreman ... laughing Or from bad taste.
    On urgent it was just too lazy to engage in such nonsense, and time was a pity. So I don’t have an album and a tricked out parade And I didn’t want to look like a parrot
  46. Evgenii Xolod
    Evgenii Xolod 5 July 2018 15: 19
    +1
    Horror ......
  47. ibirus
    ibirus 5 July 2018 15: 34
    +1
    Mummers clowns, shame on the parts where they served.
  48. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 5 July 2018 15: 47
    +2
    Everything from unculture! The fact that young people always liked military uniforms is commonplace! Every normal man in the subconscious lives a warrior-heroic heritage of his ancestors! But no one talks about the traditions of the military uniform (and there are so many of them!) In the armies to young soldiers! There is such a topic at school in OBZH, in the NVP section! But what are the traditions at school now? All wars can be completed in one quarter! And what was there, and what kind of heroes do not need the consumer of educational services! No wonder Zadornov said, the country is not scared idiots! In the USSR there was nothing like that either. Only excerpts from the MO order on wearing uniforms. Now the same thing. Where will these boys come from respect for the military uniform, if he doesn’t have a parade? One field-snake! And in the parades, but in the pictures, and in the movie, what heroes are painted! So fighters restore justice, blurring in dreams and dreams of their home, friends and comrades.
    For comparison, the traditions of the military uniform in the Prussian army. It was a whole strict system of rules and conventions, which was honored by everyone, from an ordinary to a field marshal! And this system flowed from generation to generation, relying not on the orders of the Minister of War, but on traditions and veneration! By the way, the same guardians of tradition and the Cossacks, but I'm not talking about the registry in ties and jackets.
  49. Cat
    Cat 5 July 2018 16: 37
    0
    These n-races in shweikh
  50. Sailor
    Sailor 5 July 2018 17: 10
    +1
    And you say Yudashkin, Pierre Cardin, etc. You look and there are no axels and white sewing, the last ones with the sailor back and forth below, and the sailors above the uniform that the tsar’s admirals would be jealous like the heels of Hamburg, forgive me, moderators would forgive me, and the Ukrainian would surpass everyone ETOGES need camouflage and a shako!