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When will the troops go BMP "Kurganets-25"?

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Kurganmashzavod, which is a manufacturer of infantry fighting vehicles (BMP) based on the Kurganets platform, has published an annual report, from which it follows that the BMP on the new platform will go to the troops for testing in 2019, reports TASS agency.


When will the troops go BMP "Kurganets-25"?


As follows from the document, at present the prototypes of the newest infantry fighting vehicle are “in the works” and are being prepared for “comprehensive tests preceding the adoption of this technology”. According to the concluded state contract, the enterprise must supply pilot batches of BMPs based on the Kurganets platform during the 2019-2021 period.

Recall that the development of BMPs on this platform began in the 2012 year, and according to the plans of the developers, the tests of the equipment should have been completed in the 2016 year. Mass production was planned for 2017 – 2018 years. Later, the dates were repeatedly transferred.

"Kurganets-25" is a universal tracked platform, on the basis of which it is planned to create a whole series of vehicles, including the BMP, BMD for the Airborne Forces, the BTR, the self-propelled artillery gun with the 125-mm gun.

BMP B-11 (Object 695) on the platform "Kurganets-25" received the front location of the engine compartment, the crew and troops are in a separate armored capsule, isolated from weapons and ammunition. The crew consists of three people. The troop compartment is designed for eight people. Equipped with a remote-controlled universal boomerang-BM combat module, armed with 30-mm 2A42 automatic cannon with selective ammunition (500 ammunition of projectiles), PKTM 7,62-mm machine gun (2 000 ammunition of ammunition, as well as in the form of a man-on-board).
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Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
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  1. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 4 July 2018 14: 37
    +7
    We wait! The news is good, let's see how Kurganets will prove himself in the army, you can try in Syria ...
    1. maxim947
      maxim947 4 July 2018 14: 56
      +1
      The car is excellent and it was waiting for the troops.
      Who is in the subject, explain - how practical is this protection on the sides, will it not blow it on the first tree?
      1. Grigory_45
        Grigory_45 4 July 2018 16: 46
        +8
        Quote: maxim947
        How practical is this protection on the sides, will it not blow it on the first tree?

        patience and work are all torn off.
        The floats ...

        ... removable and mounted on such brackets
      2. 123456789
        123456789 4 July 2018 17: 47
        +3
        Quote: maxim947
        The car is excellent and it was waiting for the troops.
        Who is in the subject, explain - how practical is this protection on the sides, will it not blow it on the first tree?

        Without KAZ niac laughing
    2. Maz
      Maz 4 July 2018 15: 25
      0
      Is he needed there? That is the question.
    3. Romka47
      Romka47 4 July 2018 15: 48
      +2
      You are right to try it in the Syrian meat grinder first, and there you will see how it is, although personally I think that it will pass all the tests with honor
    4. alexmach
      alexmach 4 July 2018 22: 25
      +2
      You are not at all merciful to this poor Syria. In 19, only the first batch for military trials, until they go into a real combat situation, can you put it in any way, how many more years of the war in Syria do you want?
    5. Yrec
      Yrec 5 July 2018 09: 55
      0
      "Kurganets" in the troops will be in a STRONGLY limited number (like "Armata" and "Boomerang", by the way). This is an experimental platform for running in a complex of weapons, systems, mechanisms, tactics of application. It is too expensive for exploitation, especially for war. Here on the basis of it, subsequently, they rivet normal, cheap equipment. Remember the T-34: it was cheap, easy to manufacture and master the crew, and they were just fucked up. Remember the T-72. Is it better than the T-80? No. But preference was given to him, because he is like a T-34. With BMP the same garbage, they need to provide a mobilized ARMY, and this is millions of soldiers and officers and they need tens of thousands. The Germans, at one time, gave preference to a few super-tanks and purged them outright, although they had good T3 / T4.
  2. MPN
    MPN 4 July 2018 14: 40
    +3
    Starting in 2015, batches of vehicles for experimental military operation were sent to the armed forces of the Russian Federation. The military called the high profile of the machine a drawback.
    Are these all broken already ?, now they will finish and again? smile Our plans, yes, to God’s ears ... feel
    1. venik
      venik 4 July 2018 14: 58
      +2
      Quote: MPN
      Our plans, yes, to God’s ears ... feel

      ======
      Well, Duc HE (!) Probably HEAR !!!!! soldier
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 4 July 2018 15: 36
      +15
      Quote: MPN
      Are these all broken already ?, now they will finish and again?

      Better than usual - "You only sign an actik to us, and then we will finalize everything. Honestly".
      And then the mechanical drivers are fighting with the gearbox, clutches and braking on the go, the commanders cannot look into the observation devices (because they placed them on the basis of a completely different gun) and cannot simultaneously aim and rotate the tower (placing the sight, observation devices and flywheels designed for either an octopus with meter-long tentacles, or for the presence of eyes on the stems), the loader with mats tries to get shells out of the ammunition stack on the floor and put it into the breech, without hitting anything, and the radio operator gunner picks himself smartly into the radio , which in the best years provided communications for a distance three times less than the passport.
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 4 July 2018 22: 37
        0

        Quote: MPN
        Are these all broken already ?, now they will finish and again?
        Better than usual - "You just sign an act to us, and we will finalize everything later. Honestly."

        I would also say they broke - and thank God! much better than if they weren’t delivered there.
  3. mitchhunter
    mitchhunter 4 July 2018 14: 41
    +3
    The army is waiting for hundreds of such cars! Hurry up already!
    1. For example
      For example 4 July 2018 16: 04
      +7
      The army is waiting on chairs, armchairs and sofas !, pointing fingers at the keyboard wassat
      That there are hundreds, but come on, THOUSANDS !!! Mileyony give !!! Yes, do not delay !!!!wassat
      1. Gargantua
        Gargantua 4 July 2018 16: 37
        +7
        Yes, we do not need these latest weapons, well, if only for the parades a few units. Why spend hundreds of billions on equipment? It’s easier to take these funds offshore or send them to the US Federal Reserve for storage. Give a thousand dollar billionaires before the end of Putin’s new term !!!
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 4 July 2018 17: 05
        +4
        Quote: For example
        That there are hundreds, but come on, THOUSANDS !!! Mileyony give !!! Yes, do not delay !!!!

        good
        They also forgot to add from the cheers-patriotic opera - "Long time !!!" and "How much you can lick !!!"
      3. Dashout
        Dashout 4 July 2018 21: 33
        +3
        Quote: For example
        The army is waiting on chairs, armchairs and sofas !, pointing fingers at the keyboard
        That there are hundreds, but come on, THOUSANDS !!! Mileyony give !!! Yes, do not delay !!!!


        And what is wrong? Don't you like patriots?
      4. The comment was deleted.
    2. bolt
      bolt 4 July 2018 20: 19
      +3
      Quote: mitchhunter
      The army is waiting for hundreds of such cars! Hurry up already!

      Which army? Likely enemy?
      The Russian military calls it the "grenade launcher's dream."
  4. Grigory_45
    Grigory_45 4 July 2018 16: 06
    +1
    the crew and the landing are in a separate armored capsule, isolated from weapons and ammunition.
    from how it turns out ..) In fact, these weapons and ammunition are isolated from the rest of the armored car volume and are located in a remote-controlled module. If only the buzzword - "armored capsule" - is returned to the place and out of place
    1. Cympak
      Cympak 4 July 2018 16: 30
      +1
      Another nonsense "journalism"
  5. san4es
    san4es 4 July 2018 16: 08
    +5
    Kurganets-25 is a universal tracked platform on the basis of which it is planned to create a whole series of vehicles soldier
    30 May 2016 city
  6. andrewkor
    andrewkor 4 July 2018 16: 21
    +4
    BMP with a 2A42 gun is still the 20th century, despite the advanced protection! Give a 57mm gun.!
    1. Per se.
      Per se. 5 July 2018 12: 08
      +1
      Quote: andrewkor
      BMP with 2A42 gun is still 20
      In the twentieth century, the BMP-3 was created, which is still the best in its class. The "Bakhcha-U" module is also from the 20th century, and there is not only the 30 mm gun and the 7,62 mm machine gun, but also the 100 mm gun. If so the 57 mm caliber is needed, it can be put on the BMP-3 as well (the "Derivation" module). As for the "Kurgants-25", do we really need such a BMP, a la "Warrior" and "Bradley" ... Is it possible that as an armored personnel carrier? The photo shows the BMP-3 with the "Derivation" module.
  7. Cympak
    Cympak 4 July 2018 16: 28
    +3
    About "Kurganets" for the Airborne Forces is extremely dubious news. He is too big and heavy. About the 125-mm self-propelled guns, the same is extremely doubtful. Why is the "nedotank" needed in the ground forces when there are tanks there. But the new 120-mm self-propelled guns in place of "Nona" and "Vienna" is needed. For the Airborne Do Lotus. The only question is that it is probably cheaper to make this 120-mm self-propelled guns based on the BMP-3 chassis
    1. Left shot
      Left shot 4 July 2018 22: 45
      0
      Well, well expressed my thoughts. Need BMP, not nedotank. BMP and armored personnel carriers should develop in the direction of quality, and not grow in volume and mass.
  8. Left shot
    Left shot 4 July 2018 22: 02
    0
    Too massive. Such medium tanks traveled to WWII
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 July 2018 23: 06
      0
      On the contrary - what’s needed, her armor will withstand fragments of artillery shells and large-caliber mines, shots from RPGs and 40 mm NATO cannons. That's just the price of 160 million cooled the ardor of the military.
    2. Cympak
      Cympak 4 July 2018 23: 25
      +1
      Large dimensions = convenience for the landing and great chances for the survival of the crew. All these stories that we will make BMP lower than grass in modern conditions of using thermal imagers and other sensors = nonsense. Most likely, such a "shallow" BMP itself will not see anything and will be destroyed by the enemy, being "in proud ignorance"
      1. Left shot
        Left shot 4 July 2018 23: 59
        +1
        Large dimensions - great chances for survival ?? Not funny
        1. Moore
          Moore 5 July 2018 06: 38
          +1
          Now this is a global trend.
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 5 July 2018 09: 59
          0
          Large dimensions - more reservations, greater internal volumes, less damage from cumulative grenades and missiles.
        3. sleeve
          sleeve 5 July 2018 11: 37
          0
          I propose for comparison to hide behind a telegraph pole and later behind a 5-ton container. And I'm with a shotgun 12kl ... Well, modestly so, humanely. After the laughter will pass immediately.
      2. Per se.
        Per se. 5 July 2018 12: 14
        0
        Quote: Cympak
        All these stories that make the BMP below the grass in modern conditions of use of thermal imagers and other sensors = nonsense.
        Rave? You tell this to such a fighter.
  9. Hiller
    Hiller 4 July 2018 22: 19
    +1
    From the desired to the real - the abyss! In the Moscow General Military School, BMP-3s have not yet been seen !!! On deuces and armored personnel carriers 80 (not 82) study. What are the Kurgan people.
    1. cordon332
      cordon332 5 July 2018 13: 01
      +1
      Quote: hiller
      From the desired to the real - the abyss! In the Moscow General Military School, BMP-3s have not yet been seen !!! On deuces and armored personnel carriers 80 (not 82) study. What are the Kurgan people.

      A very serious problem. Today BMP-3 in the army can be mastered only by contract servicemen, as For a year, draftees do not have time to master this machine and serve on the BMP-3 almost exclusively as contract soldiers, and Kurganets, by the saturation of modern complex systems, is many times more complicated than the BMP-3. In this case, training must be carried out at the plant that produces these products, because no one except the developer can intelligibly bring the subtleties of the design developed by him. Foreign buyers of Russian products have long been using this method of training.
      1. Hiller
        Hiller 5 July 2018 21: 38
        0
        The problem is that it never gets cooler. We mastered the treshka back in 1988. What is the Commander-in-Chief of SV thinking together with Shoigu - this is the question? The contractor (according to your information) masters, and the platoon commander - neither sleep, nor spirit !!!! Trouble!
  10. Left shot
    Left shot 6 July 2018 02: 17
    0
    Quote: sleeve
    I propose for comparison to hide behind a telegraph pole and later behind a 5-ton container. And I'm with a shotgun 12kl ... Well, modestly so, humanely. After the laughter will pass immediately.


    An example is moronic and does not count. Drobovicek is not a PT-means