Blitzkrieg era tanks (part of 1)

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“Potapov. Tanks HF large there are 30 pieces. All of them without shells to 152 mm guns. I have T-26 and BT tanks, mainly of old brands, including double-turrets. Enemy tanks destroyed up to about a hundred ...
Zhukov. 152 mm KV guns shoot 09 - 30 projectiles, therefore, order the issuing of 09 - 30 immediately to concrete-breaking shells. and put them in motion. You will hit the enemy tanks with might and main. ”
(GK Zhukov. Memories and reflections.)


Today on the pages of "VO" very interesting materials are published about WWII tanks, and with photos not only from the outside, but also from the inside. However, even they are not always able to give an idea of ​​what was inside the tanks themselves. But they are not only steel, but also copper, nickel, molybdenum, and much more. And, of course, behind each tank is engineering experience, technology level and much more. So let's see how the requirements of the military and the experience of the First World War, as well as technological and various other capabilities of European countries influenced the development and creation of tanks of the blitzkrieg era, that is, the very beginning of the Second World War.




Here they are, the tanks of the Blitzkrieg era. All together and all in the same yard with one person of Vyacheslav Verevochkin, who lived in the village of Bolshoye Oesh near Novosibirsk. Alas, but people on planet Earth are mortal. Even the best and most talented.

Well, of course, we should start with the fact that during the First World War only England, France and Germany built and used tanks in battle. Italy and the United States also began to produce them, but did not have time to try out the machines of their own design. Since 1921, Sweden has entered the number of tank-producing states, since Czechoslovakia with 1925, with Japan, with 1927, with Poland, with 1930, and Hungary after 8 years. Germany re-launched the production of tanks in the 1934 year. Thus, in the 30-ies, tanks produced 11 countries, including the USSR. Moreover, it was in the USSR, and especially in Germany, after the coming to power of Adolf Hitler that this process went the fastest. Hitler understood that neither England nor France would agree to peacefully review the decisions of the Versailles Treaty. Therefore, preparations for a new war began immediately in Germany. In the shortest possible time, the Germans created a fairly powerful military industry capable of producing practically all types of weapons for the BBC / Luftwaffe / Navy / krigsmarine / and the Wehrmacht ground forces. The reformation of the army was carried out simultaneously in all directions, so that not all Germans were able to immediately achieve qualitative improvements. But if we talk about tanks, then almost everything was done at the same time - testing, adoption, elimination of deficiencies, development of instructions for use, training, organization of repair work, and so on. The fact that England and France took two decades, and without much success, took all of the 5 years for Germany - it was during this period that effective tank forces were created using advanced tactics.


In 20, interesting self-propelled guns were developed by Pavezi in Italy. But before their mass release it did not come. For example, such a “tank destroyer with an 57-mm gun was built and tested.

Only the USSR showed similar rates, for which there were very good reasons for this. In the late 30s, the strategic doctrine of Germany was the theory of blitzkrieg - “lightning war”, according to which the main role in the war was assigned to tank troops and aviationapplied in close interaction with each other. Tank units were to dissect the enemy army into several isolated units, which were then supposed to be destroyed by forces of aviation, artillery and motorized infantry. Tanks had to capture all the important control centers of the enemy side as quickly as possible, avoiding the emergence of serious resistance. Of course, everyone wants to win as soon as possible and in the war all means are good for this. However, in this case, the point was only that Germany simply did not have the forces and means to conduct prolonged hostilities.


In 1928-1929 This German Graspractor of the Rheinmetall company was tested in the USSR at the Soviet-German Kama facility. As you see, he didn’t imagine anything particularly revolutionary.

The state of the German economy allowed the army to provide a quantity of weapons, ammunition and equipment for a period not exceeding 6 months. So the strategy of the blitzkrieg was not only attractive, but also dangerous. After all, it was enough just not to meet this deadline, so that the German economy would just begin to fall apart, and what this would have turned out for the army is not difficult to imagine. That is why many German military experts opposed the idea of ​​"war-lightning" and considered it an adventure. And Hitler, in turn, their resistance infuriated. However, not all the military were opponents of the blitzkrieg doctrine. One of those who supported it and cultivated it in every way was Colonel Heinz Guderian, who is rightly considered the “father” of the German Panzerworm - the armored forces of Nazi Germany. He started quite modestly: he studied in Russia, gained experience in Sweden, took an active part in the training of German tankers, in a word - literally built from nothing the tank forces of new Germany. After taking the post of Supreme Commander of the German armed forces, Hitler made Guderian the commander of the armored forces and assigned him the rank of general of tank forces. Now he received new opportunities for the implementation of his plans, which even now was not easy, because even his own chef von Brauchitsch, the head of the German ground forces and very many of his generals, did not recognize his ideas. However, for Guderian was the support of Hitler, who did not trust the old command cadres, and that was what decided the whole thing. However, the situation with equipping the Wehrmacht with new tanks still remained very difficult. It is known that even after the outbreak of the Second World War and the attacks of fascist Germany on Poland, its industry from September 1939 to April 1940 could produce only 50-60 tanks per month. And only from May-June 1940 of the year reached the monthly level in 100 machines.

Blitzkrieg era tanks (part of 1)

How could the best tank in the world be in such distress? Eh, if we all knew ... But then, much of what we have in the MO archive is closed to researchers until the 2045 year!

That is why the Führer's order to occupy Czechoslovakia and annex it to the Reich as a protectorate was met with great approval by Guderian. Thanks to this, he had at his disposal all of its tank-producing industry and all Czech tanks, which did not differ too much in their combat qualities from the then German ones. And yet, even after that, Germany continued to produce significantly fewer tanks than the USSR, where factories produced 200 tanks per month back in 1932! Nevertheless, the Wehrmacht soon received Pz II tanks, which had a 20-mm automatic cannon in the turret and a machine gun coaxial with it. The presence of such a gun significantly increased the combat capabilities of this tank, but Guderian understood that such weapons were clearly insufficient to fight Soviet, French and Polish tanks, which had guns of 37, 45 and 76 mm caliber. Therefore, he made every effort to quickly expand the production of such machines as Pz.lll and Pz. IV. The first had a gun and an air-cooled machine gun. The second, which was considered a support tank, two machine guns and a 75-mm short-barreled gun. Therefore, despite the solid caliber, the Pz. IV had a low initial velocity of the projectile - 385 m / s and was primarily intended to destroy infantry targets, and not enemy tanks.


BT-7 work "armored master Verevochkina." Such a wonderful man had such a hobby - to make “models” of tanks in full size!

The release of these machines takes place slowly and, for example, in the 1938 year did not exceed just a few dozen units. That is why Guderian accepted the occupation of Czechoslovakia with such satisfaction: after all, the Czech tanks LT-35 and LT-38, which received the German designations Pz.35 / t / and Pz.38 / t /, were also armed with 37-mm guns, two machine guns and had the same thickness of armor. The Germans put their radio station on them and increased the crew from three to four people, after which these vehicles began to meet their own requirements in almost all indicators. “Almost” meant only that, for example, the Germans considered it necessary to have a crew of five even on light Pz.III, and each of the crew members had their own hatch for evacuation. As a result, the Pz.III main modifications had three hatches in the tower and two evacuation hatches on the hull sides between tracks, a Pz.IV, in which the crew also consisted of 5 people, respectively, two hatches in the hull roof, above the driver’s head and arrow - radio operator, and three in the tower, as in Pz.III. At the same time, the Czech tanks had only one hatch in the roof of the hull and one on the commander's tower. It turned out that four tankers had to leave the tank in turn, which was a serious problem if it was hit. The fact is that a tanker, the first to leave a tank, could be wounded or even killed directly at the moment when he was getting out of the hatch, and in this case, those who followed him had to make maximum efforts to escape and all that was unnecessary seconds in a burning tank, and that, of course, was deadly. Another serious drawback of Czech tanks (as well as most tanks of that time, by the way) was the fastening of armor plates with the help of rivets. When shells hit the armor of the rivets, they often broke off and flew into the tank by inertia, where they caused wounds and even death of crew members, although the tank’s armor itself remained intact. True, at first the Germans put up with this, since in their armament these tanks were not inferior even to the Pz.III, not to mention the Pz.I and Pz.II, and their 37-mm gun had rather high levels of armor penetration.


T-34 looks like just very well. And behind him is also visible “Ferdinand”.


T-34 at the gate of the workshop, in which it was made.

But, when, after meeting with the Soviet T-34 and KV, their inefficiency was revealed, it turned out that they could not be re-equipped with more powerful guns. They did not have any reserves; therefore, later the Germans used only the Pz.38 (t) chassis, and the remaining towers from these tanks went into service with the pillboxes. However, for the Germans, any tank in conditions of complete impoverishment of their country, caused by the payment of reparations under the terms of the Versailles Peace Treaty, was of the greatest value. It took a lot of materials, including very scarce ones, in order to make even such a simple tank as Pz.III. It is not surprising, therefore, that the production of tanks for the future war in Germany grew rather slowly, and the number of tanks produced was relatively small. So, the Pz.I was released in the number of 1493 machines / plus 70 tanks of experienced modifications. Pz.II in May 1937, there were only 115, but by September 1939, they became 1200. Pz.III by September 1939, there were only 98 machines. After the annexation of Czechoslovakia, the Germans got almost 300 units of Pz.35 (t), but only 20 Pz.38 (t). True, the very Polish campaign was already involved 59 tanks of this type. But still, it is clear that on the eve of World War II, Hitler’s army had only 3000 tanks, of which 300 were medium, and all the rest were light vehicles, including 1400 Pz.I with purely machine-gun armament. Meanwhile, in secret negotiations with the British and French military missions in August 1939, our country promised to throw against Germany only in the European part of the USSR 9-10 thousands of tanks of all types, including light, medium and heavy tanks with guns of 45-76,2-mm caliber ! Here, however, it should be clarified that this superiority was mainly quantitative in nature, and about any qualitative superiority over the German Pz tanks. III and Pz. IV in this case, the speech did not go.


As for the United States, there ... the army tried by all means to surpass the tank of the private owner Christie, that is, to create exactly the same wheeled-tracked tank with a machine gun (primarily with a machine gun!) Armament, but nothing came of it. Rather, such pearls were obtained here, as in this figure.


Cavalry wheeled-tracked tank T7.

The fact is that the bulk of Soviet tanks that had 45-mm guns were armed with a 20K cannon of the 1932 model, which was a remake of the German 37-mm anti-tank gun of the Rheinmetall company, which was adopted by the USSR in 1931 and also consisted of in service with the German army under the brand name 3,7 cm RAC 35/36. By the way, the 45-mm caliber kit for our gun was not random, but was justified by two important circumstances. Firstly, the unsatisfactory fragmentation of a 37 mm shell, and secondly, the presence in warehouses of a large number of armor-piercing shells from 47 mm Hotchkiss sea guns on board Russian ships fleet back in the early twentieth century. For this purpose, old driving belts were ground on them and the caliber of the projectile became 45 mm. Thus, both our tank and anti-tank 45-mm pre-war guns received two types of shells: light armor-piercing weighing 1,41 kg and 2,15 kg fragmentation.


And this “thirty-four” with the hexagon tower of the 1943 model of the year is also on the move!

Interestingly, an armor-piercing-chemical projectile weighing 1,43 kg containing 16 g of a poisonous substance was created for the same gun. Such a projectile had to be torn behind the armor and release poison gas to destroy the crew, and the internal damage in the tank itself should have been minimal, therefore, such a tank would be easier to put into operation. The tabular data on the armor penetration of 45-mm guns at that time were quite sufficient, but the whole thing was spoiled by the fact that the head part of the projectiles from Hotchkis guns was of short form, and the quality of their manufacture was unsatisfactory.


German tankers are photographed against the background of the KV-2. For them, the size of this tank was just beyond. I wonder what they thought about the "backward Russians" who managed to create such a tank? And not one !!!

In this regard, our Russian "forty-five" was losing the German 37-mm tank and anti-tank guns and did not pose a real danger to the Pz tanks. III / IV with their 30-mm frontal armor at a distance of more than 400 m! Meanwhile, an 37-mm cannon projectile of the Czech tank Pz.35 (t) at an angle of 60 degrees at a distance of 500 m pierced 31 mm armor, and the guns of the Pz.38 tank (t) - 35 mm. Especially effective weapons German KWK L / 46,5 tank cannon had a PzGR.40 sabot projectile rev.1940, whose initial velocity was 1020 m / s, which at a distance of 500 m allowed him to pierce an armor plate with a thickness of 34 mm.


BA-6 and Czech Pz.38 (t) by V. Verevochkin. That's how they look on one scale!

To defeat the majority of the USSR tanks, this was quite enough, but Heinz Guderian insisted on arming the Pz.III tanks with an even more powerful 50-mm long-barreled gun, which was to ensure their complete superiority over any machines of possible opponents up to the distance of 2000 m. However, even he was unable to convince this of the German Army Armaments Directorate, where, referring to accepted standards of infantry anti-tank guns, they continued to insist on maintaining the 37-mm uniform caliber facilitating production about supplying troops with ammunition. As for the Pz.IV, his 75-mm KWK 37 cannon with a barrel length of only 24 caliber was distinguished by good shells - a high-explosive fragmentation grenade and a stupid-armored piercing projectile with a ballistic tip, but the armor penetration of the latter was only 41 mm at a distance 460 m at a meeting angle with armor 30 degrees.


V. Verevochkin (left) and his grandson (right), and in the center is director Karen Shakhnazarov.

To be continued ...
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  1. +21
    9 July 2018 15: 23
    He started rather modestly: he studied in Russia,
    - it is a myth. Gents Guderian, was not in Russia as a student. but as an INSPECTOR.
    1. MPN
      +5
      9 July 2018 17: 18
      cannon pz. IV had a low initial velocity of the projectile - 385 m / s and was primarily intended to destroy infantry targets, and not enemy tanks.
      It would not be quite right, because by that time a 75mm cumulative projectile mod. 1938 (7,5 cm Igr. 38) used exclusively against armored vehicles.
  2. +13
    9 July 2018 15: 30
    Chic, "models", I judge as a modeller, though I collected tanks at 1:35 and aviation 1:48, but there are no such models ...
    1. +4
      9 July 2018 15: 46
      Quote: Fitter65
      Chic, "model"

      Well, these are still not models, but copies remotely resembling the originals.
      1. +1
        9 July 2018 17: 00
        Quote: figvam
        Well, these are still not models, but copies remotely resembling the originals.

        I agree with you, although the author presented them as
        This wonderful man had such a hobby - to make life-size “models” of tanks!

        By the way, the trucks on the T-34 from the DT-75 tractor
        1. +10
          10 July 2018 05: 34
          Verevochkin served as deputy technologist in the tank brigade, and this house stands next to the abandoned training ground of the Moscow Region, where reenactors gather every year as part of the Siberian Fire festival.
          And yes, the chassis of all tractors-based machines is a blessing in the wake of this goodness around the neighborhood ...
          Photos are old (there is no asphalt road yet) and, alas, many cars have already gone sold.
          And Verevochkin is a human being. Not a dozen local boys worked for him and learned to love his story. There are few such people, and soon there will be absolutely none.
      2. +2
        9 July 2018 21: 39
        Well, these are still not models, but copies remotely resembling the originals.

        Well, why? Very high quality replica. In full by Mosfilm standards. Here's an example: a replica of the BA-20 based on the GAZ-69. smile
        http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:BitvaZaMoskvu-BA20
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        1. +1
          10 July 2018 14: 43
          Quote: VictorZhivilov
          In full by Mosfilm standards.

          Shakhnazarov did not take his tank for the filming of his film "White Tiger", here you have the standards.
    2. 0
      16 August 2018 01: 57
      Quote: Fitter65
      Luxurious, "models", I judge as a modeler, though I collected tanks at 1:35 and aircraft at 1:48
      Vision is poor, probably. We have to do bigger.
      I also have a Wishlist - 1: 4 to make a tank, but there is no equipment and time ...
  3. +5
    9 July 2018 15: 36
    Here they are, the tanks of the Blitzkrieg era. All together and all in the same yard with one person of Vyacheslav Verevochkin, who lived in the village of Bolshoye Oesh near Novosibirsk. Alas, but people on planet Earth are mortal. Even the best and most talented.
    Cool, even though my grandson does not like anything except computer and football, he looked with interest and gave the highest rating to these creations, “COOL” - the highest mark in his dictionary. My will be an example at the same level. A talented person also made it and a great master.
  4. +5
    9 July 2018 15: 41
    How could the world's best tank get into such a disastrous situation? Oh, if we all knew ...

    Definitely, poor training of personnel, plus structural and technical flaws in the transmission (remember how tankers of the first T-34 described how gears were switched), Plus the lack of air cover ....
    1. +1
      9 July 2018 15: 56
      All this can be said now, is it really on the same rake ????
      1. +2
        9 July 2018 16: 20
        yes, strange, tracks on both sides are not visible. If not for this, it can be assumed that the car flew into a rather weak ground with a good move, got a wedge on both sides, and could not turn further or pass back and forth (well, or it broke)
        1. +3
          9 July 2018 17: 09
          Quote: prodi
          yes, strange, tracks on both sides are not visible. If not for this, it can be assumed that the car flew into a rather weak ground with a good move, got a wedge on both sides, and could not turn further or pass back and forth (well, or it broke)

          The author of the idea of ​​the film “In the war, as in the war”, V. A. Kurochkina, has a very not bad autobiographical novel, or a novel, though it is still not finished unfortunately. So it turns out that Viktor Aleksandrovich was a tanker before the war, he stayed on extra urgent, and then the war, and they T-34 and KV that they had in their secret boxes only on posters, saw how to operate them and everything else only in theory. I read his book an extreme time in the mid-80s. then she disappeared from me, there is a story about Maleshkin, in which a young officer died after a famous battle from a crazy fragment. A very good book ...
    2. 0
      10 July 2018 14: 09
      Quote: Fitter65
      Definitely, poor training of personnel, plus structural and technical flaws in the transmission (remember how the tankers of the first T-34 described how gears were switched),

      Still easier. Worn engine. With such even through shallow ditches had to get in reverse, and even then not always successfully. In addition, there was usually a fiery exhaust to the very ground, indicating extreme engine wear. As for the transmission, the tank nevertheless passed the military acceptance and with careful handling it turned out to be quite reliable. At least the Germans did it. Whereas diesels at first had a very small resource, which in wartime was exacerbated by poor-quality and untimely maintenance.
  5. +4
    9 July 2018 16: 27
    “Almost” only meant that, for example, the Germans considered it necessary even for the light Pz.III to have a crew of five, each of the crew members having their own hatch for evacuation. As a result of the Pz.III main modifications, there were three hatches in the tower and two evacuation manholes along the sides of the hull between the tracks,


    Pz.III Ausf.D. Poland, September 1939. Theoretically, the driver and the gunner-radio operator could use access hatches to the transmission units for landing in the tank. However, it is clear that in a combat situation it was almost impossible to do.

    The shooter and driver did not have their PERSONAL hatches for landing in Pz.III!
    On both sides of the hull above the second and third track rollers in the tanks modifications E - L there were evacuation hatches.

    So the tanks of the M and N models did not have such hatches in the hull! Naturally, these models were created in 1943 after gaining some experience from the past battles of World War II!
  6. +2
    9 July 2018 16: 36
    Quote: prodi
    it can be assumed that the car flew into a rather weak ground with a good move, got a wedge on both sides, and could neither turn nor pass back and forth

    And what, in those days, tanks went alone? And no one helped pull it off?
    Yes, and the 2nd car in the background, suggests that most likely the cars were abandoned due to lack of fuel. Well, or broken, it really wonders why 2 cars at once ...
    1. +2
      9 July 2018 16: 58
      Quote: LeeDer
      Yes, and the 2nd car in the background, suggests that most likely the cars were abandoned due to lack of fuel. Well, or broken, it really wonders why 2 cars at once ...

      Pay attention to the background of another T-34, there are only 3 of them in the photo. Most likely the tanks were ambushed, having been blown up by mines, one clearly shows a sloth without a caterpillar.
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    2. 0
      9 July 2018 17: 00
      At that time, CHAINs were used for towing, not cables! Chains have not justified themselves! Torn! Yes, the tanks themselves when towing brothers broke! And there was no means of evacuation at all!
      1. +2
        9 July 2018 17: 04
        Quote: hohol95
        At that time, mainly CHAINs were used for towing.

        There were cables on the T-34.
        1. 0
          9 July 2018 17: 07
          Yes! The BT and T-26 tanks had chains!
    3. 0
      9 July 2018 17: 04
      Yes, and the 2nd car in the background, suggests that most likely the cars were abandoned due to lack of fuel. Well, or broken, it really wonders why 2 cars at once ...


      Immediately THREE T-34 tanks drove the roofing felts into the swamp, the roofing felts in the flood meadow, where they naturally got stuck! 1941 - Germans filmed!
      1. 0
        9 July 2018 20: 14

        The same technique + T-26.
        1. +1
          9 July 2018 20: 19

          Here it is - T-26
  7. +4
    9 July 2018 16: 41
    ... and secondly, the presence in warehouses of a large number of armor-piercing shells from 47 mm Hotchkiss sea guns, which were on the ships of the Russian fleet at the beginning of the 45th century. For this purpose, old driving belts were ground on them and the caliber of the projectile became XNUMX mm.

    A logical question arises - WHEN did work on regrinding of 47-mm shells begin? Before the war or during the war?
    We read from M. N. Svirin -
    Self-propelled guns of Stalin. History of the Soviet self-propelled guns 1919 - 1945
    The issue of re-equipping former "chemical" tanks during their repair was not as simple as it might seem at first glance. Of course, the installation of the 130-mm tank guns arr. 45 would not cause any particular problems. There were guns, in particular, on the Bolshevik, but at that moment the Leningrad Front was experiencing an acute shortage of 1932-mm fragmentation grenades and fuses for them. The stockpile was barely enough for two to three weeks of fighting to arm the entire arsenal of 45-mm battalion guns, as well as the existing T-45 and BT tanks. By order of the head of the Department of Artillery Supply (UAE) Lenfront, work began on the question of regrinding old 47 mm naval grenades for use as part of a 45-mm round, as well as organizing release at the plant named after Lepse 45 mm garnet made of malleable and gray cast iron. True, the situation with armor-piercing shells was a little better, but what is a tank that does not have fragmentation ammunition, and where were the guarantees that research in the direction of its own release of surrogate fragmentation ammunition would be crowned with success?

    According to the text, it turns out that the fragmentation grenades of 47-mm guns were subjected to regrinding! And this was attended to since July 1941!
    And WikiWiki verbs -
    The 47 mm Hotchkiss quick-fire gun is a rifled breech-loading quick-fire ship gun developed by the French company Hotchkiss et Cie in 1885. The original name is Canon Hotchkiss à tir rapide de 47 mm.
    The gun was equipped with Russian and French cast-iron and steel grenades (1,5 kg, explosive weight about 0,02 kg).
    In 1914-1918, for 47-mm anti-aircraft firing, grenades were equipped with remote 8-second tubes and a smoky trail. Initially, a powder of brown powder weighing 0,75 kg was used, and then a smokeless weight of 0,316-0,35 kg was used. According to the shooting tables of 1895, a grenade weighing 1,5 kg had an initial speed of 701 m / s and a range of 4575 meters with an elevation angle of + 10,4 °.

    Only grenades and no armor-piercing shells !!!
  8. +2
    9 July 2018 16: 50
    "In the late 30s, the strategic doctrine of Germany was the theory of blitzkrieg - “lightning war”, according to which the main role in the war was assigned to tank troops and aircraft, used in close cooperation with each other. "
    It was in the USSR in the second half of the 30s that the Theory of Deep Operation was finally formed.
    In Germany, the standardized operational doctrine, as well as the theory of future combat methods, was fully formulated by 1926 thanks to the commander of the ground forces of the Reichswehr, Hans von Sect. Further she only improved.
  9. 0
    9 July 2018 16: 53
    After the annexation of Czechoslovakia, the Germans got almost 300 units of Pz.35 (t), but only 20 Pz.38 (t).

    The production of LT-38 for the Czechoslovak army was hindered by export deliveries, distracting the CKD company from order fulfillment for the Czechoslovak army. It is about making batches of tanks for Peru, Switzerland and Lithuania. As a result, by March 15, 1939 - the beginning of the occupation of the Czech Republic and Moravia, German troops had released only three LT vz.38 tanks for the Czechoslovak army out of 150 ordered!
  10. +4
    9 July 2018 17: 07
    "... Colonel Heinz Guderian, rightly considered the" father "of the German Panzerwaffe - armored forces of Nazi Germany."
    Such a high appraisal of Guderian's contribution to the creation of German armored forces began with the publication in 1950 of his autobiography Erinnerungen eines Soldaten, in which Guderian pays considerable attention to self-praise.
    All those who made a very significant contribution to the development of German armored forces in the 20s and 30s, such as Pirner, Heigl, von Eimansberger, von Fallard-Bockelberger, not to mention Ludwig Ritter von Eimansberger, mention in Guderian's memoirs in passing.
    The Guderian version of the emergence and development of German armored forces is most interesting to compare with the "History of German Armored Forces. From 1916 to 1945" by General Walter Nering (Die Geschichte der deutschen Pan-Zerwaffe 1916 bis 1945)
  11. +2
    9 July 2018 17: 08
    Quote: figvam
    Quote: Fitter65
    Chic, "model"

    Well, these are still not models, but copies remotely resembling the originals.

    But Verovochkin or will not be able to make copies: means and technical capabilities are needed
  12. 0
    9 July 2018 17: 08
    Quote: figvam
    Quote: LeeDer
    Yes, and the 2nd car in the background, suggests that most likely the cars were abandoned due to lack of fuel. Well, or broken, it really wonders why 2 cars at once ...

    Pay attention to the background of another T-34, there are only 3 of them in the photo. Most likely the tanks were ambushed, having been blown up by mines, one clearly shows a sloth without a caterpillar.

    I looked in the photo, these are tanks wrecked in the summer of 41 in the Romven region ...
    http://waralbum.ru/230362/
  13. 0
    9 July 2018 17: 14
    Quote: LeeDer
    Quote: prodi
    it can be assumed that the car flew into a rather weak ground with a good move, got a wedge on both sides, and could neither turn nor pass back and forth

    And what, in those days, tanks went alone? And no one helped pull it off?
    Yes, and the 2nd car in the background, suggests that most likely the cars were abandoned due to lack of fuel. Well, or broken, it really wonders why 2 cars at once ...

    It’s not even surprising, now I can’t remember where the meeting is but it’s easy to find, in the history of the T-34 tank there is a story about how the factory was filled up with complaints about the quality of the gearbox, which stated that the gear teeth simply crumbled after several kilometers of march ...
    1. 0
      9 July 2018 18: 14
      Quote: Fitter65
      where it was said that the gear teeth simply crumbled after several kilometers of march ..

      There was such a fact, but this is due to the fact that the metal grade from which the gears were ground was mixed up.
  14. 0
    9 July 2018 17: 48
    In this regard, our domestic “forty-five” lost to the German 37-mm tank and anti-tank guns and did not pose a real danger to the Pz tanks. III / IV with their 30-mm frontal armor at a distance of more than 400 m! Meanwhile, the armor-piercing shell of the 37-mm gun of the Czech tank Pz.35 (t) at an angle of 60 degrees at a distance of 500 m pierced 31 mm armor, and the guns of the Pz.38 (t) tank - 35 mm. A particularly effective weapon of the German KWK L / 46,5 tank gun was the PzGR.40 projectile of the 1940 sample, the initial velocity of which was 1020 m / s, which at a distance of 500 m allowed it to penetrate the armor plate with a thickness of 34 mm.
    stupidity
    armor-piercing chemical
    Penetration, mm
    Armor-piercing projectile BR-240

    The initial velocity of the projectile 750-770 m / s. Shell weight 1,43 kg.
    meeting angle 90 ° from the tangent plane to the armor (normal)
    at a distance of 100 m: 82 mm
    meeting angle 60 ° from the tangent plane to the armor
    at a distance of 500 m: 40 mm
    at a distance of 1000 m: 28 mm
    With the BR-240P projectile

    The initial velocity of the projectile 1070 m / s. Projectile weight 0,85 kg.
    meeting angle 90 ° from the tangent plane to the armor (normal)
    at a distance of 350 m: 82 mm
    at a distance of 500 m: 62 mm
  15. 0
    9 July 2018 17: 50
    Quote: daniel
    In this regard, our domestic “forty-five” lost to the German 37-mm tank and anti-tank guns and did not pose a real danger to the Pz tanks. III / IV with their 30-mm frontal armor at a distance of more than 400 m! Meanwhile, the armor-piercing shell of the 37-mm gun of the Czech tank Pz.35 (t) at an angle of 60 degrees at a distance of 500 m pierced 31 mm armor, and the guns of the Pz.38 (t) tank - 35 mm. A particularly effective weapon of the German KWK L / 46,5 tank gun was the PzGR.40 projectile of the 1940 sample, the initial velocity of which was 1020 m / s, which at a distance of 500 m allowed it to penetrate the armor plate with a thickness of 34 mm.
    stupidity
    armor-piercing chemical
    Penetration, mm
    Armor-piercing projectile BR-240

    The initial velocity of the projectile 750-770 m / s. Shell weight 1,43 kg.
    meeting angle 90 ° from the tangent plane to the armor (normal)
    at a distance of 100 m: 82 mm
    meeting angle 60 ° from the tangent plane to the armor
    at a distance of 500 m: 40 mm
    at a distance of 1000 m: 28 mm
    With the BR-240P projectile

    The initial velocity of the projectile 1070 m / s. Projectile weight 0,85 kg.
    meeting angle 90 ° from the tangent plane to the armor (normal)
    at a distance of 350 m: 82 mm
    at a distance of 500 m: 62 mm

    The 45 mm gun looked preferable than the German 37 mm and the high explosive 45 mm projectile would be more serious
    1. 0
      11 July 2018 08: 27
      Quote: daniel
      The 45 mm gun looked preferable than the German 37 mm and the high explosive 45 mm projectile would be more serious

      Obviously, you have not heard about problems with the quality of shells for 45 current. In real conditions, even the 30-mm armor of German "rectangular" tanks was impenetrable for our guns.
  16. 0
    9 July 2018 17: 50
    And yet, even after that, Germany continued to produce significantly fewer tanks than the USSR, where 200 tanks a month produced factories back in 1932!

    In 1932? 200 a month - is it 2400 a year? This pace is more likely characteristic of the USSR of the 70s. They produced a little more than 3000 tanks a year.

    In general, “200 tanks a month in 1932” is a very bad sense of humor. It is known that 31 and 32 years were the years of the development of the T-26 and BT-2 tanks by the industry. Problems with the serial production of cars were enormous. The cooperation of enterprises was only taking shape; there were not enough cannons, then rink disks. There were no engines for the BT, I had to buy the retired American Liberty and put the retired M-5 from the aircraft. The percentage of defects in production was estimated at tens of percent, even fewer tanks passed military acceptance. In 1932, 396 tanks were manufactured, in 1933 - 224 of which 350 units. didn’t have guns.

    T-26 in the same year was adopted by the military only 950 units.

    The predecessor of the T-26 is the T-18 tank, for all the years of production from 1928 to 1931, only 959 units were produced, that is, a maximum of 40 units per month.

    That is, if you add the T-1932 and BT-26 tanks adopted in 2 by the military, you get 1446 pieces. Even if you forget that at least 200 BT-2s were manufactured using "gunless" technology, 200 cars a month fail in any way.

    Perhaps the author added there wedges too?
    1. +1
      9 July 2018 18: 33
      Quote: abc_alex
      In 1932? 200 a month - is it 2400 a year?

      The annual production of tanks from 740 in 1930-1931 reached 1938 in 2271.
      From January 1939 to June 22, 1941, the Red Army received more than seven thousand tanks, in 1941 industry could produce about 5,5 thousand tanks of all types. By the beginning of the war, about 26 thousand tanks of all types and categories were in service.
      1. +2
        9 July 2018 20: 12
        But not in 1932! In 1938, when the T-26 was produced almost a thousand a year, yes. But not in 1932! This year, the tank industry has just begun to take shape as an industry. And the author writes as if in the USSR tanks were stamped like posters for May Day.
  17. +1
    9 July 2018 19: 46
    the Nazi army had only 3000 tanks, of which 300 were medium, and all the rest belonged to light vehicles, including 1400 Pz.I with purely machine gun weapons.

    “On 1 June 1941 in Germany, the number of all tanks and assault guns taken from factories and transferred to the troops of the army and reserve army, as well as under the control of artillery and technical supply offices, was 5639 units. Of these, TI - 877, 35 (t) -187, T-II - 1072, flamethrower - 85, 38 (t) - 754, T-III - 1440, T-IV - 517 tanks. Commanding - 330. Total tanks - 5362. Assault guns - 377. In the army in the east on 22 June 1941, there were only tanks (without flamethrowing) 3332. ”(B. Muller-Hillebrand. Reference book“ Land Army of Germany. 1933 – 1945 ”).

    On 1 June 1941, there were more than 25 000 tanks in the Red Army. A valid 18 844 unit. In June, 1941 was also produced 305 tanks.
  18. 0
    9 July 2018 23: 14
    Very good models !!!! People discuss the quality of trucks from DT - 75, etc., etc. He is just handsome !!! You might think the house looks like a factory).
  19. +2
    10 July 2018 09: 02
    The state of the German economy made it possible to provide the army with the quantity of weapons, ammunition and equipment for a period not exceeding 6 months. So the blitzkrieg strategy was not only attractive, but also dangerous. After all, it was enough just not to meet this deadline so that the German economy would just begin to fall apart,
    It is known that even after the outbreak of World War II and the attack of Nazi Germany on Poland, its industry from September 1939 to April 1940 of the year could produce only 50-60 tanks per month. And only from May-June 1940 year reached the monthly level in 100 machines

    I allow myself to disagree with the author. If Germany produced 100 vehicles a month and had a stock of armaments and ammunition for 6 months. this does not at all indicate the disastrous state of its economy. It was just fine with the economy. It’s just that all countries had the experience of the previous war and made their conclusions. Moreover, each conclusion had its own personal one. So the USSR concluded that it was necessary to have large reserves in case of war - and made them. Tanks riveted two years in advance. But Germany was strangled rather economically and when planning the war they tried to minimize the economic component. Hence the Blitzkrieg theory. Let me remind you that in 1944, when Germany was left without allies and without supplies, and its factories were constantly ironed, it was able to release the maximum number of armored vehicles - and these were not at all shy PZ1-PZ3, but quite tigers, panthers, self-propelled guns, etc. etc.
    1. +1
      10 July 2018 17: 58
      In addition, the figure about 6 months looks extremely doubtful in itself. Where the author got it from is not said. Only one thing comes to my mind: it is known that a strategic reserve aluminum in Germany, it allowed the German aircraft industry to be fully loaded without metal influx from the outside for exactly 6 months. For all other positions, strategic reserves were calculated for at least a year, or even two. The Germans took into account the experience of 1MB.
      Again, what exactly limited German industry in the production of weapons and ammunition, the author does not say. What would not be enough? Electricity? Any resources? Working hands?
      In my opinion, German industry completely coped with supplying the army with everything necessary for at least 1941-1943. Moreover, developed existing and created new designs.
  20. +1
    11 July 2018 07: 19
    Again, the caliber climbs with a semi-translational review article from somewhere abroad. Throws out a hill of myths debunked a long time ago and flavors it with its own amateurish reasoning. Article in the firebox ...
  21. +2
    12 July 2018 16: 50
    One of those who supported and cultivated her in every possible way was Colonel Heinz Guderian, who is rightly considered the "father" of the German Panzerwaffe - armored forces of Nazi Germany. He began rather modestly: studied in Russia, gained experience in Sweden, took an active part in the training of German tank crews,

    Dear author, do not repeat incomprehensible gossip - Guderian never studied in the USSR and did not gain experience in Sweden.
    He received a lieutenant in January 1908. From 1913 he studied at the VA in Berlin.
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    28 September 2018 18: 28
    well done man !!! there are few

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