What to expect from the cooperation of Russia and China in space?

In the coming days, the delegation of the Space Administration of the People's Republic of China will visit Moscow, which at a meeting with representatives of Roskosmos will discuss the possibility of joint construction of a multi-module orbital station, reports RIA News.

According to the source of the agency, the visit of the Chinese delegation is scheduled for the end of this week, the parties will discuss cooperation in the field of manned programs.

He said that in the coming years, the Chinese intend to begin construction of a multi-module space station, and they are interested in the experience of Russians in conducting long-term space flights and in the creation of large objects in orbit.

In addition, the Chinese side "does not have a number of critical technologies," and it is ready to offer its partnership in exchange for them, the source added.

Earlier in the "Roskosmos" reported that they are counting on cooperation with China in the creation of super-heavy rocket.

Recall that in 2011, China launched its orbital station Tyangun-1, becoming the third country to implement a similar program, after the USSR and the USA. In 2016, the station was launched "Tingun-2". However, like the first one (already descended from orbit), it is visited, and not permanently inhabited. In a couple of years, the Chinese are planning to begin construction of a multi-module space station, which will consist of three compartments and two docking sites.

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[Greg Miller]

The Chinese need only part of Russian technology, and then they themselves ... Well, you continue to build oil and gas pipelines, slowly forgetting about space .....

[9PA]

Exceptionally cheating to expect

[Hole puncher]

Quote: 9PA

Exceptionally cheating to expect

Cheating on expectations? So do not expect the Chinese to suddenly show altruism and help our cosmonautics. Their goals are understandable, to ensure parity in space with the United States, because besides the Russian Federation no one will help them with this anymore, they will turn to us. They just picked up the moment when you can bargain for a low price, quite practical. Roskosmos has no choice, if it does not fall under the Chinese, then the probability of the death of the entire industry is high ...

[scientist]

Quote: Puncher

Quote: 9PA
Exceptionally cheating to expect
Cheating on expectations

As the experience of Mir station shows. cooperation in this area with China would be much more profitable from both an economic and a military-political point of view.
Why do you think the United States, with all its Russophobic policies, is stubbornly pulling Russia into a common lunar program? Definitely not due to patronage and economic considerations. The main task of the United States in cooperation with Roscosmos is to have constant control over Russian advanced technologies and the possibility of obtaining them.
China also needs these technologies, but unlike the United States and China, it is possible to carry out partnership and long-term projects in all areas. And above all, in the very sensitive field of space electronics, in which there are now certain problems due to sanctions.

[maxim947]

Well, you continue to continue to build oil and gas pipelines, slowly forgetting about space .....

What do you care? Sit and pick silently in your nose.
The fact that the Chinese have been given a lot of things is no secret to anyone, now they have become smarter in this regard. And the construction of an orbital station together (if only to replace the ISS) is a normal option, it’s hard alone, even for the Chinese (although there is no doubt that they can cope) The same thing about super-gravity can be done, the question is what and how often to deduce. If every two years, then why is it needed. Energy for this reason ceased to exist.

[Hole puncher]

Quote: scientist

As the experience of Mir station shows. cooperation in this area with China would be much more profitable from both an economic and a military-political point of view.

You naively believe that China will do something for the Russian cosmonautics, they will scoop up anything useful for cheap and forget about the partnership.

Quote: scientist

Why do you think the United States, with all its Russophobic policies, is stubbornly pulling Russia into a common lunar program? Definitely not due to patronage and economic considerations.

NASA does not deal with politics, they are far from this, and Russia is primarily an old partner for them, whose cooperation with them is considered useful.

Quote: scientist

The main task of the United States in cooperation with Roscosmos is to have constant control over Russian advanced technologies and the possibility of obtaining them.

Forget it, for a long time there have been no advanced technologies there, Russia can not offer anything breakthrough for space exploration.

[scientist]

Quote: Puncher

Come on, no, there are no advanced technologies for a long time

[Starover_Z]

You can’t let the Chinese to our stations!
So far they only guess what and how to do.
And they will see the finished, copy and send us away!

[MPN]

Quote: Starover_Z

You can’t let the Chinese to our stations!
So far they only guess what and how to do.
And they will see the finished, copy and send us away!

Yes, I don’t even use public toilets, all of a sudden they’ll spoil me through excrement ...

[rotmistr60]

Greg Miller
Well, you continue to continue to build oil and gas pipelines, slowly forgetting about space .....

As I understand it, a citizen of Belarus does not know at the expense of which gas pipeline his republic exists? Or is it so impatient to criticize Russia, whose economy is "torn to shreds"? That's when the Republic of Belarus will become a space power, then you can criticize.

[Lelek]

Quote: rotmistr60

rotmistr60

, Gennady.
In general, the Republic of Belarus has recently been acting not fraudulently cocky and even with the help of the Chinese is trying to troll Russia.

And in relations with Ukraine, I did not care about our allied rules.

[asiat_61]

The Chinese, we need our technology, nothing more. Not so long ago, the brothers offered to exchange the technology of our aircraft engines, and their chip technology. Here is an example.

[shura7782]

We climb with our hugs to the Chinese, so that the Americans would be afraid. But the Chinese understand this and are trying to use the situation in their favor.

[aristok]

There is not enough Siberian forest - now we need to transfer those space technologies that the Chinese did not manage to transfer

[cniza]

The Chinese cannot be trusted, they have a completely different idea of ​​cooperation.

[novel66]

and they eat with chopsticks - what's the partnership? Hi

[cniza]

Hello ! and their bones are arranged differently ...

[novel66]

and what are these anatomical details?

[donavi49]

There is no particular choice. The space industry has successfully eaten money - from the years when it was a monopolist in the world (up to 50% of all world commercial launches).

Now it all collapsed - commercial customers fled. No money. And there are no old ones either. The result - so that the developer of Proton and Angara does not go bankrupt at the beginning of the year - 30 billion rubles + 10 billion of preferential credit line were poured into it. This is not something, but just help.

And this did not save the site:
Khrunichev Center will release more than 200 factory buildings in the Filevskaya floodplain, including those where Proton missiles are manufactured. On Friday, 1 June, RIA Novosti reported with reference to a copy of the order on the creation of a commission on the release of buildings and structures, signed by the company's general director Alexei Varochko.

According to the annex to the order, it is planned to release everything from production tasks of 217 buildings: production shops, administrative and laboratory buildings, transport and service rooms, a greenhouse.

It was entrusted to free premises from production tasks during 2018-2019 years. “Create a commission to release buildings and premises from among the employees of the enterprise,” the document says.

"Leave literally three or four cases, including the main assembly shop No. 22, where Proton rockets are assembled, and the building for the Angara assembly", A source in the rocket and space industry explained to the agency.

[AID.S]

Trampolines were brought to Roscosmos,
From China, in huge packages.
The astronauts are sitting and laughing
And they want fly on rockets

[novel66]

the use of trampolines can help - the first step is easier !!

[Livonetc]

Both Russia and China have a lunar program.
Combining efforts in this direction is very pragmatic.

[Bypassed]

The thing is that the problem of space is not a problem of a private corporation headed by "effective" managers, but a problem of a state scale. The Buran drone took off only because this issue was being resolved at the state level. I looked at my selection of rare stamps of the USSR about astronautics. On one of them (toothless) in large print "Communism is that reliable launch pad from which the USSR launches its spacecraft (Khrushchev)."
As for the PRC, they will just buy the developments, and all of them will need to be redone for new materials, the specifics of the PRC industry, but they will drastically reduce the R&D stage because they will know where and how to go.

[AID.S]

Quote: PASSED BY

The thing is that the problem of space is not a problem of a private corporation headed by "effective" managers, but a problem of a state scale. The Buran drone took off only because this issue was being resolved at the state level.

For us, yes, for Mask, no.

[steelmaker]

I believe that sharing high technology is not worth it. Already very expensive for our people they are mined. They shared with the USA - now we are raking sanctions. And the fact that there is not enough money, so let their families return to the country and the money will appear in the country.

[NF68]

Here are the backward Chinese. In the years through 25-30, they will generally be inferior in some ways to leading countries.