Trump has prepared a bait for Putin. Will Russia bite on friendship?

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Formally, the meeting of the Presidents Trump and Putin is a summit in neutral territory in Helsinki, but in fact it is Trump's visit to Putin. The initiative comes from trump, he agreed to the long-awaited Vladimir Vladimirovich proposal for a summit. Agreed to meet in Helsinki.





Political analysts say that this summit is Trump's personal initiative, although it is better to say that it is initiated by Trump, because the decision on this visit was made explicitly in the “holy of holies” of the White House, and not only by Trump. The fact is that the US and Russia need to discuss not only the situation in the “hot spots” of the world, of which at least four (this could be done at the level of the Foreign Ministry and the heads of the General Staff of the parties, which is done of necessity). The question is globally: how to live further when Russia has restored military parity with the United States, and also China and other world players are on the way?

Trump's visit to Putin is a reaction to Vladimir Vladimirovich’s suggestion to “talk”, expressed by 1 in March in his famous speech at the Manezh with a demonstration of the latest Russian strategic weapons: “We didn’t want to listen before, listen now.”

Somewhere in America, Putin’s arguments were evaluated and agreed that Russia could not be held back either militarily or economically, since Russia had made a technological breakthrough in armaments under sanctions pressure. And Putin’s proposal was made to "talk" about the problems of world security too. That is, it’s not only Donald Trump’s long-term desire to meet with Vladimir Putin - this meeting is necessary for both superpowers to discuss the global problems of their future coexistence, and not just the “hot spots” of the world, which will be more like a background to hide the main themes.

Here we need to remember that behind his trump are his advisers: the former US Secretary of State and one of the founders of the Bilderberg club, Henry Kissinger, the Nobel Prize in economics Joseph Stiglitz, and probably many more other advisers that we don’t know. But Kissinger and Stiglitz we know and imagine their range of interests. Therefore, it can be assumed that the main theme of this summit will be global world problems, and possible changes in the policy of the parties in some areas will be discussed. The current political tasks at such meetings are not solved — they are solved, if at all, before that. There are two global problems between the USA and Russia: Europe, China and the US trade wars with them.

Therefore, by the way, the Helsinki summit is doomed to succeed in words and in surely signed declarations, although in reality it may not be: mutual understanding on the main problems may not be achieved. However, in the field of security, the new strategic armaments of Russia open up opportunities for the folding of US missile defense bases in Romania and Poland: they have lost their relevance for America. That is, the United States can remove these missile defense bases in exchange for any restrictions on the latest Russian strategic weapons.

It is well understood that the United States is looking for a way to influence relations between Russia and China. For this, the United States has one opportunity: to offer its friendship to either Russia or China. Or both countries at once, and wait, who will be the first to bite her.

What could be the US proposal on the friendship of Russia? It is appropriate to recall Kissinger. In 2014, he said the following about events in Ukraine: “Putin sees this as a dress rehearsal for what we would like to do in Moscow.”

It seems that Kissinger’s allegedly “pro-Russian” statements by Trump come from him, although in reality they are supported by political realities and the current global interests of the United States. The strategy of the United States since the time of Obama, about which he opened up in his book, failed: to establish American control over Russia and create from it a western outpost against China. The US is now looking for a new strategy.

And Russia may be interested, perhaps, in only one proposal, in Ukraine, namely: the unconditional cessation by the United States of its “special operation” (this is Putin’s expression) in Ukraine. Behind the scenes, Moscow may even demand compensation for damage to its interests. And Trump can go for it, and without much loss of face: for this, it’s enough to “see” the neo-Nazi manifestations of Bandera in Ukraine and be indignant. And to lay all the responsibility on Barack Obama, as he has already done in the Crimea.

However, Trump must make his “holy of holies” some concessions in return from Russia. Europe can be seen here in the light of the economic views of Joseph Stiglitz. Russia can please Stiglitz and revise its energy policy in Europe in favor of the United States and its shale LNG, to share with Europe the US energy market. Moscow can do this physically, can compensate for financial losses in the Asian energy markets, that is, it can go for this option. In other words, Putin can help Trump in a trade war with Europe.

Obvious gifts to CNN in the form of concessions, including in Ukraine, should not be expected from Trump, we are talking about changing political strategies. USA - in Ukraine, Russia - in Europe. And to protect against general political attacks, Trump is gaining hawks for himself that can peck any media if necessary. The hawk newly acquired by Trump, John Bolton, spoke out on this matter as follows: he and Trump know well who of them loves America more.
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  1. +1
    4 July 2018 05: 33
    And what for do we need it? winked
    1. +2
      4 July 2018 18: 23
      Trump has prepared a bait for Putin. Will Russia bite on friendship?

      really planted Pyotr Alekseevich on mormyshka? belay
      1. 0
        4 July 2018 22: 01
        that Russia could not be restrained either militarily or economically, since Russia made a technological breakthrough in armaments under sanction pressure.

        Weathered. The Russian people were again strong.
        So began the second round of pressure. Now sanctions against Russia are being introduced by our own government. Taxes increase. Fuel prices are rising. The ruble is being lowered - prices are rising. Well, they increase their retirement age so as not to pay money.
        So that steps to nightmare our population are consistent with trump.
        1. dSK
          0
          5 July 2018 00: 39
          Quote: For example
          second round of pressure

          summit on neutral territory in Helsinki
          which will take place after the Trump-NATO meeting, is a great achievement "of one of the founders of the Bilderberg Club bully Henry Kissinger"and his students on pulling" neutral Finland "into NATO.
          1. dSK
            +1
            5 July 2018 00: 58
            Global problems between the US and Russia today two are visible: Europe, China and the US trade wars with them.
            As Vladimir Vladimirovich says, “Russia is not a party to the conflict” in them. Delimiters of Syria, the "state" blockade of Iran .
            Russia stands in Iran the second phase of the nuclear power plant, supplies weapons. States at Israel’s urgent request begin the second Iran and Trump’s “blockade” will offer Russia to participate in exchange for Crimea’s “recognition” ...
            "If they [the USA] are going to block the export of Iranian oil, we will not allow the export of oil to other countries of the world across the Strait of Hormuz"- said the deputy commander of the base" Saralla "Ismail Kousari. TASS, July 4. The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (an elite division of the Iranian Armed Forces) is ready to block the Strait of Hormuz to transport oil to other countries if the United States continues its sanctions policy with respect to Iran. This was reported on Wednesday by Reuters.
            States receive from the Persian Gulf 20% of imported oil.
  2. +1
    4 July 2018 05: 43
    Article: whether it will be, or not, or Trump, or Putin, or Europe, or China - choose!
    Or wait for the result.
    1. +2
      4 July 2018 06: 25
      Petsyunder Maldives - the father of all Sumerians awaits the outcome of the meeting of the presidents of the United States and Russia wassat
    2. 0
      4 July 2018 11: 24
      I do not write novels, and I do not serve Putin. You need to contact 60 minutes: they immediately explain what is happening. Every day according to the novel give out!
  3. 0
    4 July 2018 06: 10
    With such "friends" and enemies do not.
  4. +1
    4 July 2018 06: 44
    "Russia can please Stiglitz and revise its energy policy in Europe in favor of the United States and its shale LNG, as if to share the European energy market with the United States."

    Dreaming!
    1. 0
      4 July 2018 11: 29
      It is not bad for Russia to diversify its energy supplies, and then everything to Europe and to Europe: we are standing on one leg. The Asian leg of Russia is very necessary, and Europe should be punished, here we can make friends with Trump.
      1. 0
        4 July 2018 12: 28
        So Asia agrees to buy from us. True, one prerequisite is "for nothing." Do we need such diversification? In Europe you can’t share the market, give them a finger - they chop off a hand. But for Donbas you can bargain - this is a double benefit.
      2. -1
        4 July 2018 17: 01
        Quote: Victor Kamenev
        and Europe should be punished, here we can make friends with Trump

        A very strange position, apparently, a man on a salary all his life. Meanwhile, the world is built on a market economy. Who pays, he orders the music. Europe is the main buyer and supplier of currency .. it is strange that the author does not know this. You try to open a car service and punish those who contact you. Like, here the bourgeoisie all go and go ... But you can be friends with the five in the neighborhood, she has a lot to buy. Let's see how you sing at the end of the month.
    2. 0
      8 July 2018 09: 32
      And why, one wonders, did we return Syria to the fold of the right policy?
      In order for Qatar gas not to go to the EU.
      And Gazprom’s gas would go to the EU.
      And then on and such a gift?
      And Ukraine, we now in this form, well, nafig is not needed.
      Because you need to restore the Gulag system.
      Or mass annihilate fans of Bandera and Shukhevych.
      After all, Canadians today are not ready to accept the grandchildren of these bloodsuckers?
      It is necessary that Ukraine independently cleanse itself of this abomination. Or drowned to the end.
      So what are we going to talk about with Comrade Trump?
      Although the Tambov wolf is his friend.
  5. +1
    4 July 2018 07: 03
    Wait and see. The wait is not long. So let's see who prepared for whom and what kind of bait.
    1. 0
      7 July 2018 20: 17
      GDP recently mentioned that they say a lot of work. A very important meeting, the campaign "bait" do not play, will agree on an adult. Although Trump does not support the continuity of strategic arrangements. How can I negotiate with cheaters? Just wait. But we still don’t know the truth - in a few years.
  6. +1
    4 July 2018 07: 05
    Clearly one meeting will take place. And it will be successful, my grandmother said in two.
    1. -1
      4 July 2018 17: 02
      Quote: parusnik
      Clearly one meeting will take place. And it will be successful, my grandmother said in two.

      The meeting is successful if Putin is satisfied. And he will be pleased, he likes to communicate at the top. If you don’t raise the housing reform, don’t raise the housing and communal services, don’t accept the law of Yarovaya, don’t raise the price of gas, don’t dream, a meeting in this context will be a failure.
      1. +1
        4 July 2018 18: 30
        And where is it written in this comment that they will cancel the pension reform, they will not raise the housing and communal services, they will not accept the Yarovaya law, they will not raise gas prices? Why do you come up with all sorts of nonsense for me? .. Show your level?
        1. -1
          5 July 2018 09: 41
          Quote: parusnik
          And where is it written in this comment that they will cancel the pension reform, they will not raise the housing and communal services, they will not accept the Yarovaya law, they will not raise gas prices?

          If we take it as an axiom that success is for Russia (whether you write a successful meeting or not), it is success for its citizens, ordinary people ... of whom 140 million, then for them in the first place are the factors that I listed. Yes, you did not specify, perhaps success for you is for a completely different group of people. Then I thought of it for you .. Perhaps the interests of management, and after them the multimillion-dollar bonuses are the success of the meeting.
          1. +2
            5 July 2018 09: 50
            Why think for me? .... If you think of someone for yourself, talk to yourself .. hi
      2. 0
        5 July 2018 10: 13
        Housing prices do not depend on trump
        1. -1
          5 July 2018 17: 34
          Quote: igorbrsv
          Housing prices do not depend on trump

          And what depends on trump?
  7. +6
    4 July 2018 07: 55
    Actually, the United States now has nothing to offer Russia! They are non-negotiable. You can’t believe them, they lie at every step. PRO to remove? And why is it for Russia? On the contrary, let them put, and more, their missile defense systems are ineffective, and everyone knows that. So let them spend it. Not to be friends with China? So it's too late to drink Borjomi. Give Ukraine? But how, and most importantly, why is it for Russia? The right people can be dragged, and the rest is a "tractor." And this, unfortunately, is true.
    1. 0
      4 July 2018 12: 30
      So that is the essence of the negotiations, to give what is not needed in exchange for buns. I missed the dollar for 32, and for this it is necessary that investments flow into our economy, and for this it is necessary to lift the sanctions.
      1. +6
        4 July 2018 14: 29
        I've missed the dollar at 67 kopecks. As investments poured into the country, so the dollar became 32 (the current ruble). Nobody teaches history? What about the economy? To lift sanctions is to ruin your industry and agriculture. I don’t understand the Russians, you panim ....
        Trump is a hammer. He probably watched "Three of Prostokvashino."

        We are destroying Ukraine with a crushed industry, millions of Russophobes, and you open your markets to us and we will slam your economy to zero. And you spend money on Ukraine ....
        1. -1
          4 July 2018 17: 06
          Quote: Bakht
          To lift sanctions is to ruin your industry and agriculture.

          What SPECIFIC sanctions of the United States are we talking about in the context of our agricultural ??? The United States did not impose sanctions against C / X. It was Putin who introduced them. Learn the materiel.
          1. 0
            4 July 2018 18: 15
            "Learn materiel" is a standard phrase of those who don’t know materiel .... If you don’t know about the relationship between industry and agriculture, then .... I don’t call you to teach materiel .. You are in preparatory class.
      2. +2
        4 July 2018 17: 30
        The dollar was not dropped by sanctions or lack of investment, but by our Central Bank for no external reason. In view of an unbearable desire to stifle hated economic growth in this country, which is hated by our Central Bank. What does the Central Bank not do in order not to allow cheap money into the economy? Well, perhaps the atomic bomb has not yet been detonated, but I personally wait, and now they’ll try it.
        We could make our own investments, just not. And even more so because of the hillock it is impossible! It is possible only to our official thieves. That they are the same "foreign investment" are satisfied. First, the resource rent stolen to the ground is withdrawn, and then they are dragged back, under the guise of "foreign investment". But they need zero inflation. They are not businessmen, they are thief officials.
        That is, they are absolutely not able to earn either a ruble or a cent. Only steal again and again, and then lose the stolen under the guise of business. And inflation, even modest, leads to the fact that stolen devalues ​​too quickly, they do not have time to steal yet.
        What kind of businessman in his right mind and solid memory would "flood" here? What for? Tinkov wanted to make a resort on Kachatka, rushed right there - and give us thirty more millions. And give it to me. And come on. The fact that they live like that, it is not a pity for the stolen one. Tinkov them - I need the money to work. Talking speaker with a wall ...
        1. -1
          4 July 2018 17: 58
          Quote: Mikhail3
          The dollar was not dropped by sanctions or lack of investment, but by our Central Bank for no external reason. In view of an unbearable desire to stifle hated economic growth in this country, which is hated by our Central Bank. What does the Central Bank not do in order not to allow cheap money into the economy? Well, perhaps the atomic bomb has not yet been detonated, but I personally wait, and now they’ll try it.

          Comrades !!!! Dacoli !!! Dakoli our law enforcement agencies, the FSB, the GRU, the Russian Guard and others will be inactive !!! You citizen pointed to the enemy in detail !!!!!! HOW so, they betrayed us, they betrayed everything ... to the end of the country ... ((((
          1. 0
            4 July 2018 18: 35
            It’s funny. Exclamation marks would be even smaller. Generally hysteria is not worth it. Our comrades at 90 were canceled, as they failed, but citizens are aware of it for a long time. And that everything is pretty bad with the country, also in the know. And to whom it is beneficial, citizens know. But neither the GRU, nor the lie ... oh, that is, the Russian Guard, will not help here. Alas...
        2. +2
          4 July 2018 18: 18
          Investments have never saved the economy. There are simply no such examples. Rather, you can give the opposite examples.
          Elementary. Investments - is the investment of financial resources in production with a view to profit. Only. That is, those who advocate a "stream of foreign investment" are indirectly in favor of putting their economy in the hands of ... "investors." I mean, over a hill. Flag in hand .... and independence in a string bag.
      3. 0
        4 July 2018 21: 34
        Quote: Imobile
        I've missed the dollar for 32, and for this it is necessary that investments flow into our economy, and for this it is necessary to lift sanctions

        And not sanctions, the main thing is the price of the dollar, but the fact that our Central Bank artificially lowers the value of the ruble, because it is beneficial to the oil industry and gas industry, exporting goods. They least of all think about the people.
  8. +2
    4 July 2018 08: 17
    In Russia, the smell was fried. Mattresses bake the liver. wassat
  9. +6
    4 July 2018 08: 52
    All this is interesting and informative. Especially the identity of Stiglitz, who repeatedly and publicly called the privatization of the 90s in Russia illegal. And at the same time, he urges not to weaken efforts to build a "democratic society" in Russia
    But .... if you add a spoonful of shit to a barrel of honey, then we get a barrel of shit. There are no proportions. What kind of agreements can there be with the USA if the Americans openly violate any agreements? Where is the guarantee that Trump will fulfill what he signs? Iran, Korea, WTO, customs duties, climate agreements. What else has not violated Trump?
    So you can build any assumptions. Does it make sense to conclude agreements without guarantees?
    1. +1
      4 July 2018 09: 26
      absolutely meticulously noticed - guarantees shish with oil!
    2. 0
      4 July 2018 11: 32
      Stiglitz predicted the collapse of the European Union, as an economist. Today it is important, and democratic nonsense is like communist mantras.
  10. BAI
    0
    4 July 2018 09: 04
    There are 2 points.
    1. Trump can again disrupt the meeting, as in Vietnam.
    2. No verbal agreement can be trusted. Both Gorbachev and Putin were simply stupidly tricked (both with the expansion of NATO and with the recognition of Poroshenko).
    1. +2
      4 July 2018 09: 53
      The problem is that you cannot believe a written agreement ... The States have recently violated all agreements. This is exactly what Joseph Stiglitz says.
      The United States is trying to prevent extremism from the Trump administration - whether it be a migration decree against Muslims, an unscientific environmental policy, or threats to abandon international trade obligations - become the norm.
      1. +1
        4 July 2018 11: 37
        No one can believe in politics, many do not even believe his wife. But this is not about faith, but about a change of policy, these changes can be checked very much, they are either there or not. So separate the flies from the chops.
        1. +4
          4 July 2018 12: 08
          The separation of "flies from cutlets" is that Trump can offer Russia the lifting of sanctions. This is in the interests of the Western economy. The question is - does Russia need this? Trump himself pursues a policy of protectionism and the introduction of customs barriers. But he wants the exact opposite from Russia. Remove sanctions and open the Russian market.
          We do not know under what conditions we agreed to meet. The worst thing for the Russian Federation that can happen is the ephemeral political promises for the Russian Federation on real economic benefits for the United States.
          Sanctions are bad. But the lack of sanctions is even worse. Have 25 years of lack of sanctions taught nothing?
      2. -1
        4 July 2018 17: 27
        Quote: Bakht
        The problem is that you cannot believe a written agreement ... The States have recently violated all agreements. This is exactly what Joseph Stiglitz says.

        I agree!! There is only one conclusion - there is no need to meet with the Anglo-Saxons. We need to prepare for a world war, that’s what the president’s thoughts should be doing. It is not too late., To create new types of mass destruction of the enemy. Judgment Day, apparently already very close ...
        1. +1
          4 July 2018 18: 21
          Strange logic.
          Who said you don't need to date? With the Anglo-Saxons and Stalin met. But did not agree. And why? There were no guarantees. We will give you a beautiful piece of paper, and you will go to the front. That is not agreed.
          But you need to prepare for war .... Here Putin is preparing. It seems to be getting ready.
  11. 0
    4 July 2018 15: 05
    For it is said: "There can be only one thing worse than enmity with Anglo-Saxon - friendship with it"
    1. 0
      4 July 2018 17: 09
      Quote: Dormidont
      For it is said: "There can be only one thing worse than enmity with Anglo-Saxon - friendship with it"

      And in several World Cup matches I spoke very well with the British and Belgians. Do you have any negative experiences? I would have been afraid to go over Mytishchi more at night than in Munich .. Everything about how much you yourself know how to be friends .. this is not given to everyone.
      1. +2
        4 July 2018 18: 24
        I’ll tell you a secret. I talked with everyone. Americans, Angles, French, Germans, Norwegians, Poles ... (full International). Even Venezuela with Nigeria. And the Cote de Ivoire too. I am not kidding.
        In Munich at night I would not go for a walk. It is fraught.
        1. -1
          5 July 2018 11: 16
          Quote: Bakht
          In Munich at night I would not go for a walk. It is fraught.

          I walked to Oktoberfest ... five years ago (before the euro jump) - Wonderfully easy !!!
          And as for the international .. about the conversation, the fact that our media and each other show how nonhumans is a little true. But citizens, confident that the media do not lie, believe everything. Hence the mutual enmity.
          1. +1
            6 July 2018 13: 35
            It is unlikely that they are shown as nonhumans. I have not seen this. Even on the TV box. He spoke a lot and often. The watches are long. They are normal people. But ... they believe their television box. We spoke with the Pole about Katyn for a long time. He remained unconvinced, but hesitated. They talked with the Germans about the war. They have a grudge that they should not have lost. But they agreed that there was no need to start a war.
            Difficult questions. Need to communicate. You cannot make concessions. The same Anglo-Saxons shark no worse than Bokassa.
  12. +1
    4 July 2018 17: 18
    Moscow can do this physically, can offset financial losses in Asian energy markets,
    It seems to be so, but only if it ... allows China! Because already consider there are no such Asian markets. There is only Chinese. So the question here is very, very slippery.
    It is vitally important for both presidents to show the successes of the meeting to their peoples. And then they’ll eat it up. At the same time, Trump is many times easier - his people have lost their intellectual abilities a long time ago. Well, that is, I have not lost it, but it is severely limited in thinking and the deception has grown into them tightly. It’s enough to look at the tantrum about “Russian interference in the elections,” which seems to be an American insanity for an adequate person, but now ...
    And to our people, Putin must announce something very real, real, otherwise everything has become dashing. What will it be? I can’t imagine. But something must be, blood from the nose! Or the real agreements that they will create there, it is very possible that it will not work. In general - there will be an interesting story.
    1. -1
      4 July 2018 17: 50
      Quote: Mikhail3
      his people lost their intellectual abilities long ago

      Do they collect Boeings in Uryupinsk? Can you give at least a couple of arguments in favor of the fact that the Russian people are smarter than the American? I don’t notice this when I see what kind of noodles they believe from pensioners to young animals. You are an exception, a very deep reasoned analysis .. I am sure it will be quoted in schools.
      1. 0
        6 July 2018 16: 42
        Yes, I'm a genius. I usually get up in the morning and spend a session of inner admiration. Then I’m going to the toilet ...
        When was the last nuclear plant built in the US? How many countries can an American name without looking at a map? You can go on and on. Alas, the great Country of Engineers that I admire has perished long ago.
  13. 0
    4 July 2018 17: 25
    Authors, relax, as in fact, you are not given to know. And after many years, everyone will know the result. The alternative is simple: give up or we give up.
    1. 0
      4 July 2018 17: 44
      Quote: iouris
      Authors, relax, as in fact, you are not given to know.

      And then who said that Putin’s interests coincide with those of the author?
      1. 0
        5 July 2018 00: 23
        I can’t say anything about Putin’s interests. Personally not familiar. The author does not say anything about his interest. I see the author (AUTHOR), who idly watches from the shore, how Trump's “fishing” will end. Someone proclaimed that Putin is Russia, for the author, Russia is a fish that Trump catches for some kind of bait. Where is the subject for discussion?
  14. 0
    4 July 2018 18: 00
    Here it is necessary to look like this: To find out what will happen, it is necessary to add what was there.
    But there is the fact that Trump must be cut into the elite of big politics. Now his weight is at the level of the second deputy deputy Lavrov. The privilege of meeting with Putin is like a print on the whole forehead, which is more like someone else. But I think he spells this chance. Although of course the screams that the haberdasher and cardil is power will captivate his twitter.
    1. 0
      4 July 2018 18: 28
      "Trump to the elite of big politics"? Your deeds are wonderful. With all the rejection of the Anglo-Saxon model of development and disbelief in liberal democracy, I dare to assume that Trump is sitting in the biggest chair in big politics. And the line to him is more authentic than to Putin. And it is still unknown who asked whom to meet. German newspapers write that Putin requested a meeting. What is not consistent with this article.
      1. 0
        5 July 2018 16: 30
        To Obama, too, there was a turn to Berlin, and what is this petty, touchy eccentric with the letter M elite? Or do you measure money? The master's business. My opinion is that the chair is too big for this type. And if GDP appeared in it, it could have turned out to be small.
        1. +1
          6 July 2018 08: 35
          No, not money. The influence. Is the US economy not very big? Is military power insignificant? Do banks turn for rubles or dollars? The president of a country that has all of this is in the political elite of the world.
          1. 0
            6 July 2018 12: 50
            I'm shocked, all this shit is measured quality !!!. Wowoohh
            1. 0
              6 July 2018 13: 38
              Shit?
              But how is quality measured? Meeting with Putin? Reminds a joke
              - Who is Brezhnev?
              - A minor politician of the era of Alla Pugacheva!
  15. +1
    4 July 2018 18: 45
    Trump has prepared a bait for Putin. Will Russia bite on friendship?

    Hardly. So many times, "friendship with the West" has come out to Russia sideways, that the chance to step on the old rake is minimal, but, unfortunately, is not different from zero. sad
  16. 0
    4 July 2018 19: 48
    The meeting is for show! Our countries have too different ideas about the world and world order. I doubt that we can really find common ground with the Americans. Most likely this is space, football, well, a couple of other three activities.
  17. 0
    4 July 2018 22: 15
    Quote: Bakht
    Investments have never saved the economy. There are simply no such examples. Rather, you can give the opposite examples.
    Elementary. Investments - is the investment of financial resources in production with a view to profit. Only. That is, those who advocate a "stream of foreign investment" are indirectly in favor of putting their economy in the hands of ... "investors." I mean, over a hill. Flag in hand .... and independence in a string bag.

    By the way, China has raised its industry on American investments. It’s just that they must be skillfully managed. Foreigners were surprised at modest official dinners. The Chinese replied that they should live economically.
    1. 0
      6 July 2018 13: 54
      Investments are needed. Without money, the economy does not work. But you always need to separate the grain from the chaff. Or how they like the plebeian language on the Internet: flies from cutlets.
      The question is where and which ones. Take a look around and look at the "civilized world." In the States, there is an entire committee to control investment. Trump forbids the Chinese to invest in American electronics. More recently, 10 billion Chinese investments were cut off. In the United States, foreign capital in major companies cannot exceed 25%
      Australia recently blocked the purchase of a ranch with 8500 cows. Just a thing. Investments from China. They say that Chinese investment in the country will not be allowed. It threatens the loss of independence.
      And here they write about "investments pouring in" to Russia. Give foreign capital to Russian Railways or Gazprom? Maybe you need to break up a single energy system. The West has long been saying that it wants to invest in Russian electric networks. But first they need to be fragmented.
      An example from the story. Before World War I, France invested heavily in Russian railways. Who pays, he orders the music. Russia wanted to develop railways to Siberia, and the French built only to the western border. The reason is simply that Russia could accelerate the pace of mobilization. And they did not care about the economic needs of the Russian Empire.
  18. 0
    4 July 2018 22: 28
    It’s not in vain that the US senators came to Russia to us. There will be no “bait” either from the United States or from ours
    there will be no side. Summit is a very serious conversation. Perhaps there will be no serious progress. But the fact that the leaders of the two powers will meet, and talk, looking into each other’s eyes is the key to future meetings, because Trump
    and Putin are interested in each other.
  19. 0
    5 July 2018 10: 17
    Quote: Semen1972
    Quote: Bakht
    To lift sanctions is to ruin your industry and agriculture.

    What SPECIFIC sanctions of the United States are we talking about in the context of our agricultural ??? The United States did not impose sanctions against C / X. It was Putin who introduced them. Learn the materiel.

    But the legs of the bush harm our agricultural.
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    6 July 2018 13: 38
    Putin will not go to the fake world, he won’t. Conversations will go around and around, however, they will not go beyond this.
    The Russian Federation has not a bad position in the international arena, and obviously no one will change the way they say it.
    The United States will not say anything new, it may well be offered to return to the G7, in exchange for some kind of concession to Putin, but why is it for Russia? No reason.
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    8 July 2018 00: 51
    Russia can please Stiglitz and revise its energy policy in Europe in favor of the United States

    What's this? Seriously?
    Yes, for Putin, Gazprom is a sacred cow! He lives and breathes for the sake of this Buryonka .. Any encroachment on her well-being leads him into a frenzy. And to give it under the knife to the Americans? Mow down - take a bite! Kudrin-co-comrades, although they lick the shoes of their older Bilderberg brother, they clearly know who is stuffing their wallet.
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      8 July 2018 01: 00
      Quote: kunstkammer
      kunstkammer

      Bad troll. Fat negative
      Quote: kunstkammer
      for Putin Gazprom is ...

      ... something like a Strategic Missile Forces, only doesn’t kill anyone laughing
      Quote: kunstkammer
      Any encroachment on her well-being leads ...

      ... to losing weight of the budget of the Russian Federation, in particular. I will not talk about the political consequences - this is too complicated for you.
      Quote: kunstkammer
      And to give it under the knife to the Americans? Mow down - take a bite!

      Then you said it right. Probably by chance request
      In general - walk echo ... with pleasure I read.

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