Ukraine: Russia will not be able to independently produce Ruslan. In the Russian Federation answered

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Russian experts responded to the statement of the new president of the Ukrainian state-owned enterprise Antonov Alexander Donets, who said that Russia would not be able to independently produce An-124 Ruslan aircraft because of the high cost of the project, RIA reports News. Former Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Air Force, Colonel-General Nikolai Antoshkin, commenting on Donets’s words, said that at the moment Russia has all the necessary technological and scientific potential to create a super-heavy aircraft.

Ukraine: Russia will not be able to independently produce Ruslan. In the Russian Federation answered




In a statement, Antoshkin pointed out that the creation of a new super-heavy An-124 Ruslan aircraft is not an extra-heavy task for Russia, and Russia has everything necessary for this. He added that with the resumption of production, the created machine will not be completely “Ruslan”, as it will receive completely different, more powerful engines and a new “stuffing” made taking into account modern technologies. At the same time, Antoshkin pointed out that if the state has a need to produce such aircraft for its army and civilian air fleet, then it will always find means for this, and the statements of the head of the Ukrainian enterprise may be a mistake, because recently this state has often been mistaken in its forecasts.

Recall that the issue of resuming the production of An-124 Ruslan at the Aviastar enterprise in Ulyanovsk is currently being considered, but the final decision has not yet been made.
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  1. +11
    3 July 2018 15: 56
    Svidomity organic in their limitations
    1. +6
      3 July 2018 16: 00
      An-124 Ruslan, developed in the 1970s, was one of many victims of the collapse of the USSR. If until 1991 these transport workers were more or less actively used by the military to transport goods over considerable distances, then over time the tasks for these aircraft were less and less. By the end of the 1980s, the An-124 as part of the USSR Air Force, originally designed for the transfer of military equipment, for its intended purpose, was practically not used.
      1. +6
        3 July 2018 16: 10
        How self-confident are the Sumerians, everyone is trying to make themselves the guardians of intellectual value. laughing
        1. +10
          3 July 2018 17: 11
          Alexander Donets, who stated that Russia will not be able to independently produce An-124 Ruslan aircraft due to the high cost of the project,

          There is nothing for Russia that we could not overcome and achieve ..
          And even more so aircraft manufacturing! And you, "Ukrainians brothers" should be ashamed of EVERYTHING that you have done at home .. Everything that you plundered and destroyed there, ALL Soviet people built, tearing resources from yourself .. Everything went to dust! And Russia will restore everything, but only somewhere in the Urals, so that the paws of "some comrades" do not reach there .. soldier
      2. +3
        3 July 2018 19: 01
        RICH, I remember in the nineties there was an article that “Ruslana” could replace IL: it has a slightly lower carrying capacity, but this is offset by the cheapness and novelty of the project
        1. +2
          3 July 2018 19: 56
          Ruslan will no longer be. Will be "Ragdai -124". Or Ratmir.
          1. +3
            3 July 2018 21: 36
            Quote: Pereira
            Ruslan will no longer be. Will be "Ragdai -124". Or Ratmir.

            In my opinion, Farlaf-124 will carry more in the belly fellow Well, Svyatogor finally can’t take off)))
            1. 0
              3 July 2018 23: 21
              At first, I also thought about Farlaf. But it hurts too slow.
          2. 0
            4 July 2018 16: 46
            oh well, Antoshkin answered the questions, so why not be An-124)))
  2. +11
    3 July 2018 15: 59
    Let them not forget the “Antonovs” to whom they owe technology, a plant and, in general, everything — to the Soviet Union! But what about decommunization? And try to create from scratch .......
    1. +7
      3 July 2018 16: 02
      Russia will not be able to independently produce An-124 Ruslan aircraft due to the high cost of the project

      And Ukraine is so rich that they are not afraid at all. Here are the bullshit ... lol
      1. MPN
        +4
        3 July 2018 16: 21
        Poroshenko’s income is ten times higher than ours I think he alone would be able to finance Ruslan per month ...
        1. +3
          3 July 2018 16: 24
          Quote: MPN
          I think he alone would be able to finance Ruslan per month ...

          Yeah, he doesn’t give you his hard-earned money. will drink He’ll put it in his pocket, and will give it to the plane he doesn’t need. This is unscientific fiction, Pasha.
          1. MPN
            +6
            3 July 2018 16: 28
            I theoretically, you are not angry like that. It’s clear that it’s better for the vodka, sometimes I myself would be ready to exchange Ruslan for a cup with a hangover, but I don’t have Ruslan ... sad
            1. +3
              3 July 2018 16: 43
              Yes, I did not think to be angry. Just the words of this Donza (bottom of a leaky barrel lol ) resemble rough trolling. Yes
              1. MPN
                +3
                3 July 2018 16: 45
                Pasha, you were born on the first day ... They scare you with a “surprise” in the Black Sea, this is a serious environmental threat, but what else did you want from the Donets? He is the director (Director Karl!) Of the whole office ... All aviation of Ukraine!
                1. +1
                  3 July 2018 16: 53
                  Too much honor to him that I wanted something from him. lol Let him go to Geyropu for his Wishlist. And about
                  Quote: MPN
                  All aviation of Ukraine!

                  I appreciated your humor. good laughing
        2. +2
          3 July 2018 18: 11
          Good afternoon, Pavel hi bully
          I looked at the data. Well, he’s not so rich (at least officially) - $ 600000 a year.
          That is, if divided by several tens - $ 10000-20000.
          In general, if you think about the Russian concepts and not a millionaire at all - so the middle is half. And the question is, where does all the good for tens of millions of dollars come from?
          1. MPN
            +2
            3 July 2018 18: 15
            Quote: bk316
            And the question is, where does all the good for tens of millions of dollars come from?

            To the same question, I would like to hear the answer about our oligarchs! Although hell is hell to listen to it ... everyone knows everything, but the noodles that on the ears turned out to be not edible, well, or not nutritious, like anyone ... request
            1. +2
              3 July 2018 18: 34
              Well, probably not the oligarchs, even Khrodor could show where the loot came from, more likely relatives of officials and deputies acting and retired.
          2. 0
            3 July 2018 22: 57
            actually parashenka state officially had more lard.
            He, along the way, because of the presidency, goes aback. because in the Panamanian offshore surfaced.
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    3. +1
      3 July 2018 16: 11
      Their proto brain is simply not capable of this.
    4. +2
      3 July 2018 18: 11
      Let them not forget the “Antonovs” to whom they owe technology, a plant and, in general, everything — to the Soviet Union!

      What a strange conclusion .. And Ukraine, this is not the USSR? You, gentlemen, in the impulse of your "patriotism", more and more like nationalism, have completely ceased to realize the reality .. USSR, this is not the Russian Federation! This is precisely the totality of all states (no matter who is larger, who is smaller). Without the same Ukraine, there would be no USSR! No need to go too far and take on more than you can carry.

      PS I apologize for "climbing". But this "nonsense" in the head is already tiring.
    5. +1
      4 July 2018 00: 19
      Unfortunately, decommunization in our country is in a silent glancing mode with all the resulting hemorrhoids, such as a loss of competence in technologically complex areas.
  3. +2
    3 July 2018 16: 04
    The problem is said in the engines. on ANE - 4 x 23 tons of thrust. In the Russian Federation, there are none like that; it’s a lot to buy from partners, to develop for a long time.
    1. +1
      3 July 2018 23: 15
      An-124 Ruslan aircraft will receive Russian engines instead of Ukrainian

      The industry has been given the task of equipping in 2019 the An-124 Ruslan heavy military transport aircraft with domestic engines instead of the Ukrainian D-18T. This was told to Interfax by the Deputy General Designer of OJSC Kuznetsov Anton Shatsky.

      He explained that the NK-32 series 2 engine, which was created for the strategic missile carrier Tu-160, was considered as the basic model for design. According to Shatsky, this engine has a “unique turbine that can withstand prolonged high-temperature conditions.”
  4. +3
    3 July 2018 16: 10
    A strange dialogue turned out. Dill says that Russia does not have enough money, and Russian answers that "Russia has all the necessary technological and scientific potential."
    One about Thomas, the other about Eryomu.
  5. +10
    3 July 2018 16: 13
    At present, Russia has all the necessary technological and scientific potential.
    - Yes, yes, we constantly hear about potential, but where is the replacement of an-12? How many IL-76 were built after the closure of production in Tashkent? Where is the replacement of an-26?
    and so yes, with potential, everything is fine with us ...., cheeks are inflated ...
    we can’t give birth to a light mass helicopter - in the MI-8 sanitation they fly for one sick person, there is no replacement for the Mi-6 and it is not foreseeable ... ugh
    1. +6
      3 July 2018 16: 54
      Quote: faiver
      there is no replacement for mi-6 and not a foresight ...

      Ummm ... actually, the Mi-6 was replaced during the USSR - with the Mi-26. And just with the release of the Mi-26 there are no problems.
      1. 0
        3 July 2018 19: 08
        Is anything that the difference in carrying capacity is half? So it turns out that il-76 is a replacement for an-12? roughly the same proportions ... hi
    2. +2
      3 July 2018 18: 20
      Somehow everything is in a bunch.
      Mi-6 has long been replaced by Mi-26, but it is a HEAVY helicopter.
      And the lungs are Ansat and Ka-226 - in fact, hundreds and a half were born long ago already riveted somewhere.
      1. 0
        3 July 2018 19: 10
        lungs this is ansat and ka-xnumx
        - Whose engine are there? how much does their maintenance cost ?, and if there is no motor, consider there is no helicopter ...
        1. +1
          4 July 2018 11: 23
          at 226 french
          Amersky stood on the assat now it seems to be replaced by VK-800V
          1. +1
            4 July 2018 11: 45
            Well, how to replace, then we will clap our hands ...
  6. 0
    3 July 2018 16: 13
    Its price for 2011 in approximate estimates was 300 million dollars.
    Not to mention the amount to restore production.
    So it’s not cheap fun.
  7. 0
    3 July 2018 16: 28
    We have already discussed this ... there are no engines.
  8. 0
    3 July 2018 16: 46
    Well, purely small children in the sandbox !!!!!!!
  9. +3
    3 July 2018 16: 53
    Dear readers, remember what kind of aircraft we made in Kazan, Kuibyshev. This aircraft can be mastered very quickly. This was not done in the 80s.
  10. BAI
    +4
    3 July 2018 17: 11
    What is the revival of Ruslan? They cannot restore the production of IL-76, IL-112 got stuck - but everything is purely Russian. Now also with the Tu-160, a bummer will happen and there will be complete happiness.
  11. A.
    +1
    3 July 2018 17: 12
    Mendel has no money for pensions for the older generation, whether it will find them for the production of these aircraft, the big question. He has other tasks in his head, not patriotic at all.
    1. -2
      3 July 2018 17: 32
      Quote: Anatolyevich
      Mendel has no money for pensions for the older generation, whether it will find them for the production of these aircraft, the big question. He has other tasks in his head, not patriotic at all.

      Well, he was appointed by Shelomov.
  12. +1
    3 July 2018 17: 12
    Due to the high cost of the project, Russia cannot produce anything ... except garbage and waste. Here we are ahead of the rest ... stop Forgot ... More oligarchs and officials ...
  13. 0
    3 July 2018 17: 20
    in the absence of engines, this is an almost impossible task.
    1. 0
      3 July 2018 23: 19
      An-124 Ruslan aircraft will receive Russian engines instead of Ukrainian

      The industry has been given the task of equipping in 2019 the An-124 Ruslan heavy military transport aircraft with domestic engines instead of the Ukrainian D-18T. This was told to Interfax by the Deputy General Designer of OJSC Kuznetsov Anton Shatsky.

      He explained that the NK-32 series 2 engine, which was created for the strategic missile carrier Tu-160, was considered as the basic model for design. According to Shatsky, this engine has a “unique turbine that can withstand prolonged high-temperature conditions.”
      1. 0
        4 July 2018 07: 44
        eeeee honestly sounds like the wildest nonsense. No offense.
  14. +1
    3 July 2018 17: 21
    dill also shouted to the whole world that “under no circumstances” would the Crimean bridge be built, that “because of the friendly boycott of the West” the 2018 World Cup in Russia will not take place ..... so what !!! !!! so, these are all nonsense about the "impossibility of producing an-124 in Russia" - from the same series ....
  15. +3
    3 July 2018 17: 26
    And it turned out that we could not build a bridge ...
  16. 0
    3 July 2018 18: 19
    So far, the decision on the production of the An-124 or a similar machine has not been made, and what actually to discuss?
  17. +1
    3 July 2018 18: 55
    I think Antonov Design Bureau should be returned to Novosibirsk.
    1. 0
      3 July 2018 19: 13
      and Kiev to mother Russia? laughing
    2. +1
      3 July 2018 19: 14
      Quote: concept1
      I think Antonov Design Bureau should be returned to Novosibirsk.

      Or maybe to Kazakhstan ..? You do not want.. wink
      1. 0
        3 July 2018 23: 22
        And then in some other republic, we wake up on the same rake and step on it, not so if they themselves do not want to then let them remain an agrarian country
  18. +1
    3 July 2018 20: 21
    statement by the new president of the Ukrainian state-owned enterprise Antonov, Aleksandr Donets, who stated that Russia would not be able to independently produce An-124 Ruslan aircraft due to the high cost of the project

    And they will tell us after Sochi, the Crimean bridge, the Zenith Arena and the World Cup about high cost ?!
  19. 0
    3 July 2018 20: 33
    At the same time, Antoshkin pointed out that if the state has a need to produce such aircraft for its army and civilian air fleet, then it will always find means for this, and the statements of the head of the Ukrainian enterprise may be a mistake

    money is only leverage, the main thing is the audacity of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Trade for promoting the aircraft around the world and the transportation market
  20. +1
    3 July 2018 20: 50
    Within 7 years, it is possible to organize the production of the new An 124, during this time they will create and master the production of new equipment, materials, engines, hydraulics, control and monitoring systems.
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  22. +1
    3 July 2018 22: 57
    Reading the content and comments of the "News" section, you come to the conclusion that there was a serious foundation under the work of Zadornov.
  23. +1
    3 July 2018 23: 22
    In fact, Russia should right now begin developing such a new aircraft or resume the production of deeply modernized Ruslans, since it will take up to ten years, and they will be twenty years old (if not more).
    PD-35 at best will be in ten years!
    By the time of the release of new aircraft, old ones will need to be sent for scrap!
    So you need to start thinking about the future now!
  24. 0
    4 July 2018 04: 37
    Now, gliders can be made of composite materials without any problems and it will be a completely different plane.
  25. 0
    4 July 2018 04: 55
    Decent answer pan-head.
  26. 0
    4 July 2018 05: 56
    But what can Ukraine do? They are now not like Ruslan, they will not collect An 2.
  27. 0
    4 July 2018 08: 20
    because lately this state often makes mistakes in its forecasts

    In an inconsistent state of Ukraine, to make some kind of forecasts .... funny!
    Even in weather reports, forecasts are more real!
    Tomorrow, maybe yes, or maybe not, uh ... I don’t know.
    Tired of this nonsense!
  28. 0
    4 July 2018 11: 40
    Opinion Donets and all other Svidomo nobody in Russia is not interested.
  29. 0
    4 July 2018 12: 29
    An interesting idea is to use Ruslan’s Russian analogues for, say, superfast delivery of goods and goods from a terminal hub near China to a terminal hub near the western borders of Russia or to Kaliningrad.
  30. 0
    4 July 2018 14: 24
    Are you Sumerians? Go dig the sea.
  31. 0
    4 July 2018 17: 46
    And what new did Svidomo create over the years of non-fallowness? Absolute 0. Even in their wretched army, everything was Soviet-style, from a submachine gun to airplanes, of which there were only a few dozen. The remaining attempts of the puppy-winkers cause either condescending smiles or homeric laughter. A digging stick and a stone ax, this is the most likely invention of modern Ukraine, a dead end branch of the Russian world.
  32. 0
    4 July 2018 23: 03
    The question is that someone considers himself equal to the Russian Federation. The ethnicity of the existing Ukraine * it's time to illusion yourself in the pancreas ...

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