Gunsmith from the DNI created a submachine gun for urban fighting

In the Donetsk People's Republic developed a new submachine gun. According to the developer, this PP "Oplot" is created for internal troops and special forces and is designed for combat in urban environments and in the premises.

Creator weapons Vladimir Mishchenko explained that the Oplot PP was developed for the PM cartridge and operates according to the free-gate scheme. There is a three-position safety lock, fire is fired by single shots and bursts. On the PP installed an open sight, retractable butt and (where to go from this) the Picatinny rail. The shop uses a magazine for 25 cartridges. The rate of fire - 850-900 shots per minute. Sighting range - 75 meters, maximum - 350 meters. It is possible to install a silencer, also produced in the DNR.

Currently, the PP is in the finalization stage. In the process of testing a proposal was made to install a different butt and a custom sight. In addition, it is supposed to use two types of stores: one for a regular cartridge, and the second for a special cartridge for firing with a silencer.

Recall that this is not the first development gunsmiths DNI. Earlier, Donetsk craftsmen demonstrated 23-mm sniper rifle "Separatist".

Comments

[Shurik70]

So someone will do it in their garage - they will put him in prison.
And the other will be awarded ...
But seriously - of the modern reliable systems, NOT ONE did not work right away. Minor tweaks (or is it correct to say the tweaks?) Were identified by lengthy trials.

[210ox]

Yes, finally put them "Chestnut" or AKSU ..

[cost]

this "news" for the branch "armament"

[san4es]

Quote: Rich

this "news" for the branch "armament"

- Exactly ..... works according to a free shutter circuit.

.... barrel locking system 02 .... ... ......

[igorka357]

Here I am about that, we have so many high-quality samples .. and we ... be-me ....

[Sergey ippon]

chestnuts are better than a toss, the whole store is on target.
both PBS and the collimator work normally.
an order of magnitude better than this miracle.

[private person]

In Chechnya, in the 90s, they were also engaged in such a craft, they also wanted to establish the production of their Borzovs.

[igorka357]

Namely .. I tried such "borzoi" ... an absolute zero ... any AKA shot them a hundred to one ....

[MoJloT]

Well, it's not only in Chechnya of the 90s, they tried to create weapons that can be produced in the garage on the knee for cheap and in large quantities. Everyone who decides to break the state’s monopoly on violence, all the more so in large numbers, has to decide what to do. In fairness, it should be noted that in the Great Patriotic War, all countries tried to create very cheap and just small arms, a single-shot pistol for firing at a point-blank range of the United States, which is worth it.

[Vanek]

Quote: Shurik70

So someone will do it in their garage - they will put him in prison.
And the other will be awarded ...

And it all depends on the conditions.

What? What for? For what? External situation ...

In their case, yes. Will be awarded.

There are masters. There are Kulibins and Schmeisers.

New Kalashnikov?

And why not?

Children creative success.

[Chicot 1]

A shelf of artisanal "rattles" arrived ...

[Xander]

Well, who dares to fight this engineering miracle?

[Simargl]

Who will have to.

[Xander]

I hope nobody has enough alternatives. Run with this hookah, with the return of the flak-88 and a silencer that suppresses the emergency siren and not a shot, well, for example, I would not risk it.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Xander

with the return of flac-88 and a silencer that suppresses the emergency siren and not a shot

let someone tell them that the biggest silencer secret is a subsonic cartridge.

[Weyland]

Quote: Maki Avellievich

The biggest silencer secret is the subsonic cartridge.

I suspect that they have stocks of Makarov cartridges there old sample - and they are frail, subsonic (at "Makarov" - 315 m / s)

[Simargl]

Quote: Maki Avellievich

let someone tell them that the biggest silencer secret is a subsonic cartridge.

Yeah! And the second is the clang of the bolt group.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Xander

Well, who dares to fight this engineering miracle?

APU will be where to go. I have in mind not to fight this miracle, namely, as said, with this miracle. We’ll see the results.

[san4es]

Quote: Doliva63

... We’ll see the results.

..... PCA vs MP40 ....
PPSh and MR-40 are two of the most common submachine guns of the Great Patriotic War. German weapons were developed by designer Heinrich Volmer in 1938, Soviet - by the famous gunsmith Georgy Shpagin and adopted for service in 1940. PPSh was very easy to produce, this gave the USSR some advantage: other countries had to create such an easy to use and manufacture a submachine gun during the war ....

[Dormidont]

The best submachine gun of the 2nd World War - PPS

[Yujanin]

The Finns had a similar system. Suomi.

[inkass_98]

Did not have. “Suomi” appeared earlier, but was less technological. Analogs of "Suomi" PPD-38 and PPSh-41. PPP is the most technologically advanced, simple and convenient PP of that war.

[igorka357]

So it’s precisely that it’s not APU, so it’s not their development .. e.))))

[Romka47]

You are right, a 9 mm cartridge against army armor plates then ... I would go with the good old AK. And this is only to the guard if it suits.

[2329 Carpenter]

Well, let them stamp, what ... It will come in handy.
Famous warriors, Germans of the mid-20th century, used to say that better than the PPSh there is no automatic machine for street battles.
The most seasoned warriors of the same period, the soldiers of the Red Army, silently but with a satisfied grin agreed with their opponent.
This is so, by the way ...

[cost]

But is Finnish suomi really worse than its Soviet copy of PCA?
This is so, by the way ...

[Kerensky]

Is Finnish Suomi Worse

He was pretty complicated in production. That is why the PCA itself was deliberately worsened (simplified in production). So that students can do it on broken-down machines.

[igorka357]

Now attention .. PPS, and now we are waiting for comments.
.

[Kerensky]

Now attention .. PPS, and now we are waiting for comments.

Sudaev has a sector store. And it was created, first of all, for tankers, and not attack aircraft. Dyuzhe uncomfortable, but then there were no augers.
But I'm not talking about that now. At the competition, PPSh won in terms of ease of production. Remind me how many threaded joints are in PPSh and how many machine hours does production take?

[Weyland]

Quote: Rich

Is Finnish suomi really worse than its Soviet copy of PCA?

a copy of Suomi was more likely to be a PDP. And PPSh was not better, but much more technologically advanced and cheaper (stamping instead of turning). "Tiger" was also better than the T-34 - but the "Tigers" released 1350, and the T-34 - Razik in 40 more!

[igorka357]

Damn what, the most technologically advanced and cheapest was Sudaev, the rate of fire and ammunition are less, because the maintainability and interchangeability is excellent! Unfortunately, at the end!

[Weyland]

Quote: igorka357

the most technologically advanced and cheapest was Sudaev,

Nobody argues - it was just about comparing Suomi with PPSh.

[sabakina]

Dima! Actually, you surprise me ....

[cost]

Glory, at least you die of surprise, but following the results of the Finnish war GAU RKKA, it was decided to copy the Finnish machine gun Lahti, better known as Suomi for the Red Army. So there were PPD and PPSh-41. Absolutely right commented Kerensky (Cyril) и Weyland (Constantine). Although Lakhti was better than its “descendants” in terms of its performance characteristics, it was technologically expensive and complicated.

[sabakina]

Dim, I don’t argue. I even saw a video about it. But, nevertheless, Finnish and ours are still not the same thing. Just took the base. It's like with Christie. Bought “Christie”, and the output was “Lada”. Laughing Dim, T-34 ...

[igorka357]

You, too, about PPP, push me experts !!!!

[igorka357]

So .... what about Sudaev?

[Kerensky]

Following the Finnish war, GAU RKKA, it was decided to copy the Finnish machine gun Lahti, better known as Suomi for the Red Army.

I’ll clarify a bit. A small batch was purchased to study before the war (Talvisota), tested and recognized as a “purely police weapon” and “you can’t give a fighter - you won’t get enough ammunition”.
According to the results: Ours fell in love with Suomi (well, Bofors at the same time), and the Finns of SVT (a little wiser with oil).

[poquello]

Quote: Rich

But is Finnish suomi really worse than its Soviet copy of PCA?
This is so, by the way ...

and the efficiency from the PCA except for beech is still different by the designers

[2329 Carpenter]

Yes, about Suomi and was not in my post ...
A copy of Suomi in PPSh was only a disk store. Ah, well, the principle of automation too.
And so yes: if you forget about the weight of 7 kg, then in general Nitsche so a pistol um a machine gun ...

[Kerensky]

A copy of Suomi in PPSh was only a disk store. Ah, well, the principle of automation too

And the car has 4 round wheels and an engine .... Let's continue the comparison?

[Romka47]

PPSh and read the submachine guns were beautiful at that time (Shpagin is the best !!!!), and now every jerk even has a military armor in the rear, against which 9mm will do it.

[Kerensky]

and now every jerk, even in the rear, has an army armor plate, against which 9mm will do it.

I would not be so categorical. Having received a handful of 9mm in the armor, 3 (!) Armor will go to the rear. The one who is in the hospital and those who carry ....
It’s not necessary to shoot right through ...

[Romka47]

Well, of course you’re right here too, but the message is clear that the power is small, and if you expand before the battle (than many armies now sin, including the APU) then you can get up after this handful, they went without hands.

[Kerensky]

the message is clear that the power is small,

Well, let's distinguish army tasks from police officers.
Returning to the topic:
1. No noise for this cartridge is needed, this is an assault.
2. The stopping effect is very important.
3. Ricochet is not needed.
4. Well, the cartridge mastered in the production.

[Doliva63]

In the photo - a butt in the chest, or what ?!
I am glad that the Russian land is not impoverished by inventors , but in the mines of Donbass, in my opinion, a lot of proven weapons are buried, aren't they?

[bouncyhunter]

Valentine
The arm-headed is enough.

Quote: Doliva63

In the photo - a butt in the chest, or what ?!

Isn't it complicated?

Quote: Doliva63

but in the mines of Donbass, in my opinion, a lot of proven weapons are buried, aren't they?

Do not fall ...

[Doliva63]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Valentine
The arm-headed is enough.

Quote: Doliva63

In the photo - a butt in the chest, or what ?!

Isn't it complicated?

Quote: Doliva63

but in the mines of Donbass, in my opinion, a lot of proven weapons are buried, aren't they?

Do not fall ...

Wow, damn it. I am silent.

[sabakina]

Pasha! What does he smoke like a hookah?

[bouncyhunter]

Hello, Glory! Does it "smoke"? Maybe expired cartridges.

[poquello]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Hello, Glory! Does it "smoke"? Maybe expired cartridges.

overheated IMHO

[poquello]

Quote: sabakina

Pasha! What does he smoke like a hookah?

) ett Glushak automobile broke through and the oil balance is upset

[WATCH_OFFICER]

Cartridge PM and so on. Why invent a separate store for special cartridges that will be used for firing with a silencer?

[Kerensky]

Cartridge PM and so on.

When firing bursts, the effectiveness of PBS drops sharply. And they twisted the net and added water ... Well, then we went down that path.

[friend of animals]

Another gloomy spot, whose task is to get from 10 meters.

[MPN]

Designed for combat in urban environments and indoors.

In my opinion, the US special forces (photos were) used PPSh for urban battles and in buildings ...

[friend of animals]

I only saw how they found the PCA from the militants and had fun.

[RL]

In the photo, the boys dabbled. They used their ARs in battle. Now they are looking for ways to resume the use of "machines" and begin, again with the German MP and try new designs, both their own and European ones. Truth is born in a showdown

[Piramidon]

Well, why exactly "Oplot"? On a fig the name with ukrotanka to lick?

[friend of animals]

This is not only a tank, but also a well-known Kharkov structure with a controversial reputation.

[gladcu2]

In the sixth grade, I “created” something similar to labor lessons.

Let's stop paying attention to news of this magnitude.

Now similar things are done by everyone. Technology allows. From computer-based drawing programs that convert graphics to G codes, to inexpensive CNC milling machines that can be installed in your garage.

If there is nothing to do at all, I really want to. That can be done on a 3 d printer in plastic.

Printers from 200 dollars. The graphics program is free. And on the Internet you can find ready-made samples in program files.

Well, what is surprising and worth attention?

[AID.S]

Quote: gladcu2

Let's stop paying attention to news of this magnitude.

To stop paying attention, you must first pay attention.

[Catfish]

Once the guys do, then they need to. They do it themselves, but do not wait for uncles to give them. Here, sitting in the warmth and comfort, it’s very simple to talk about “garage” homemade products and make fun of it. Just do not forget that there goes the WAR and kill people. And if this machine helps someone save their lives, then the inventors worked for a reason. And everyone can criticize someone else’s work ... (who wrote, but the definition for some reason disappeared). By the way, the machine shoots from the front. I just remembered articles about Argentinean PP - Donetsk will be more decent.

[Curious]

"And if this machine helps someone save his life ..."
By definition this machine cannot save life. Can only take away.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Useless submachine gun ... It would be better if the DPR started production of the anti-cumulative mesh, as the Americans are now setting off their equipment ...


Such a grid has several advantages over metal tape screens, in fact it consists of metal cables and shrapnel fixed at the intersection and all this works almost like KAZ, only here the cumulative ammunition hits the shrapnel and its cumulative funnel collapses ...

The experience of combat use has shown the high efficiency of such a solution ...

[Kerensky]

And you did not observe the grass that hides the rider on the shoulders?

[Evil 55]

New Russia rivets weapons, and horses still have not learned how to cast mortar shots .. here is the level of technology for you .. They would only work with a shovel, on the seas and on the canals ..

[Brigadier]

It’s somehow strange all this ... It’s clear that this homemade work needs to be finished and finished, although we have many good cars, such as “Chestnut” or “PP-2000”.
Why can't we put them in LDNR? Why should they suffer and invent a bicycle scooter, and even spend time on its refinement? We supply them with humanitarian aid, and such weapons could be delivered ...
And if the Western media starts screeching on the topic of our deliveries like this, we have to poke them with our nose into the American grenade launchers in Ukraine and deliver them further!
In the conditions of the current legal international lawlessness, you can safely don’t give a damn about “their media.
This is not to rob their citizens, raising their retirement age! This is "politics", you know ...

[viktor.]

Quote: Xander

I hope nobody has enough alternatives. Run with this hookah, with the return of the flak-88 and a silencer that suppresses the emergency siren and not a shot, well, for example, I would not risk it.

Don’t pony, life will make you shoot from a slingshot

[2329 Carpenter]

Quote: friend of animals

I only saw how they found the PCA from the militants and had fun.

Also saw this video. Dude fired the entire magazine in a long line, with the complete absence of a machine tossing up.

[igorka357]

Your mother .. stick on a 3d printer ... I myself printed these. Don’t tell me, stop torturing people, give them normal AK, AKC, etc., etc. ... well ...

[Catfish]

Quote: Curious

"And if this machine helps someone save his life ..."
By definition this machine cannot save life. Can only take away.

You know, she can still save life if she "de-energizes" someone who wants to take this very life of yours in time. So "by definition" does not fit here.

[MoJloT]

developed under the PM cartridge and works according to the free-gate scheme

You can not count further.

[Tarasios]

with a not-so-powerful pistol cartridge, the barrel throws “nepodetski” even from single shots. The queue is the pipe in general. To shoot from such a ratchet point-blank is not a fact that you will get.
I'm afraid that the promised sight here is all the more pampering.

[the47th]

This silencer is useless a little less than completely. And I don’t understand why trying to make the software with a free shutter from scratch when there are a ton of models with expired patents, especially when you need your own software quickly. Take ready-made solutions - and take advantage. To lighten and rail the same PPSh - and there will be happiness.

[Hiller]

At the level of gunsmiths - criminals. There were such Tolstopyatov brothers in the 70s in Rostov. "All the gang's weapons were made in semi-industrial conditions: the blanks were made in an underground workshop, the secret entrance to which was hidden using a specially turning mirror, and the curly parts were ordered by familiar factory milling machines under the guise of spare parts four small-caliber seven-shot revolvers, three small-caliber folding submachine guns of a unique design, hand grenades and even improvised body armor. " It is necessary to provide the Republicans with a humanitarian arms supply. I am sure PPS-43 is much more effective. And in their warehouses - like a fool shag.