Defense Ministry announces future reform of scientific companies

The representative of the main military department of Russia Roman Kordyukov in an interview with the media reported on the plans of the Ministry of Defense on the status of scientific companies. According to him, he took into account the fact that about a third of the military personnel of the scientific companies are signing a contract with the defense ministry on their future service. Many young people take engineering positions in the Russian defense industry.

Kordyukov notes that on the basis of this fact, the Russian Ministry of Defense plans to implement a program to transfer scientific companies to a contract basis. Reported by the information service RIA News.

If this program is implemented, the call to such units of the RF Armed Forces will no longer be carried out.

Other sources report that part of the call in scientific companies can still be saved.

To date, 12 scientific companies operate in the structures of the Russian armed forces. Initially, their formation took place in 2013. One of the features of a call to a scientific company is the presence of a diploma of higher education, the average score in which is at least 4,5. Existing scientific companies are divided into various fields, including technical developments, information systems, etc. Scientific companies are formed in various types and types of troops, including, for example, the Air and Space Defense Forces. Graduates of the Moscow Aviation Institute (Moscow aviation Institute), MSTU named after Bauman and other leading technological universities of Russia.

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[210ox]

But I have a proposal for reform .. Not in science, but in civil service .. People entering the civil service should not serve in scientific companies or somewhere in greenhouse conditions, but only in “hot spots” ..

[The black]

Quote: 210ox

. Persons entering the public service should serve not in scientific companies or anywhere in greenhouse conditions, but only in "hot spots" ..

Are we going to create hot spots ourselves, or do we hope for Western "partners"? .... Understand, Dmitry, the army is much more profitable, so that a specialty, for example, aircraft, would not receive a healthy rural guy with an arr. 9 classes, and a student of the Aviation Institute., Who, although at the military department, but will master this specialty.

[dog breeder]

The black

.. Understand, Dmitry, the army is much more profitable, so that a specialty, for example, aircraft, would not receive a healthy rural guy with an arr. 9 classes, and a student at the Aviation Institute., Who, although at the military department, but will master this specialty.

I think everything needs to be approached reasonably. Sometimes a country guy can be much more competent than a "specialist with education." Bribes, social position of ancestors, etc., etc.

[The black]

Yes, everything is clear, but even you slipped - SOMETIMES!. This is all though not pleasant, but private moments. At the military school in the university is also not easy to get. The competition is big .....

[210ox]

these “partners” regularly create “points” for us. I’m not talking about sensible and competent guys (literate is poorly said), but about those “children” whom they are trying to attach to the civil service. Afghans are a window dress by and large .. But still ..

Quote: Black

Quote: 210ox

. Persons entering the public service should serve not in scientific companies or anywhere in greenhouse conditions, but only in "hot spots" ..

Are we going to create hot spots ourselves, or do we hope for Western "partners"? .... Understand, Dmitry, the army is much more profitable, so that a specialty, for example, aircraft, would not receive a healthy rural guy with an arr. 9 classes, and a student of the Aviation Institute., Who, although at the military department, but will master this specialty.

[The black]

Quote: 210ox

and about those "kids" whom they are trying to attach to the civil service. Let them first sniff gunpowder

Dim, all the same, these "kids" they will cover up - there are many options. Well, they will turn out to be pacifists, enurezniki or super-duper smart (up to 27 years old they will study in graduate school) or well, they will put them on a military school at the university. . So to create another barrier that they can easily get around is not worth it.

[siberalt]

Here the thing is that many after the "hot spots", to put it mildly, something happens to the psyche.

[MPN]

Quote: Black

got not healthy country boy with arr. 9 classes

Why unhealthy? Does the medical board work for us? In addition, this rural guy after serving as an aircraft mechanic is not excluded that he will want to connect his further destiny with aviation and take up education in this field and may even retire at age 65. You should not attribute the Skl guys to second-rate in vain.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: 210ox

Persons entering the public service should serve not in scientific companies or anywhere in greenhouse conditions, but only in "hot spots" ...

... and the psychiatrist’s in-depth examination after that. Better with placement in a hospital, for a week or two

[210ox]

Here it is ... And let them heal ... Experience will be .. Before others to "teach" ...

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: 210ox

Persons entering the public service should serve not in scientific companies or anywhere in greenhouse conditions, but only in "hot spots" ...

... and the psychiatrist’s in-depth examination after that. Better with placement in a hospital, for a week or two

[rocket757]

Yes, yes, driving all the balleruns to the “hot spots” is international and some sort of duty!
I think Tsiskaridze will be very opposed .... in principle, the opinion of such a talented, respected person should be taken into account! On the other hand, how many of those baleruns, one, two, and miscalculated!
To drive the eggheads in there, this is superfluous, they smell the smell of military service and it will be useful. Sales in a scientific company, not at mom’s wing and ecstasy hanging around bars ... at the correct organization of the service!
About the "golden" youth, future officials, ..... little sons. granddaughters of the same parents, at a separate conversation and very sharp. But it’s not about them, as I understand it!

[The black]

If this program is implemented, the call to such units of the RF Armed Forces will no longer be carried out.

In vain. The whole point of these companies was precisely that the most gifted conscripts could be engaged in scientific work and at the same time serve as conscripts ..... And then - if the Defense Ministry really needs it - please sign a contract with it, etc. .

[Phil77]

Explain, please, what is it that gifted soldiers are engaged in in scientific companies? No, really, in science? Or is it really like a cavalry regiment under Mosfilm?

[The black]

Quote: Phil77

Please explain, what is it that gifted soldiers are engaged in in scientific companies? No, is it true, science?

Science ... and in the interests of Moscow Region. And the competition there is big, up to 10 people. in place. This is despite the fact that the service life there is 2 years. Only university graduates serve.

[Flatter]

That is, these are not combat units. Maybe, therefore, a competition? The meaning of the "scientific" mouth is completely incomprehensible.

[Simon]

Quote: Phil77

Explain, please, what is it that gifted soldiers are engaged in in scientific companies? No, really, in science? Or is it really like a cavalry regiment under Mosfilm?

Correct - practical science - and this, invented and put into practice. These scientific companies will most likely work in design departments, at military enterprises.

[andrewkor]

When I was on an “urgent”, I was just in the prototype of such a “scientific” company. The military enlistment office so picked up a team that it consisted of completely undereducated students: who thundered for unfortunate things from day time (I), who from evening by law, who from technical school. Everyone got to Moscow in the training of the Central Communications Command of the Northern River Station.

[Phil77]

Quote: andrewkor

When I was on an “urgent”, I was just in the prototype of such a “scientific” company. The military enlistment office so picked up a team that it consisted of completely undereducated students: who thundered for unfortunate things from day time (I), who from evening by law, who from technical school. Everyone got to Moscow in the training of the Central Communications Command of the Northern River Station.

And in my training half-platoon, there was about a higher education. The case was in Torgau, ShMS-1. They released "listeners."

[vladimirvn]

Correct solution. The topic of attracting talented youth to work in the Armed Forces needs to be developed and supported.

[voyaka uh]

The approach is wrong.
Talents must be sought at school. Of these geeks
(and they are in every country) and form scientific companies.
And there to give them an academic tech. education.
But you need to understand that these guys - all sorts of nerds, freaks, gamers -
you will not build at attention and you will not force to march.
They will send nafig (they will go to themselves). And they will be right! They must be convinced, conditions must be created -
then breakthrough new ideas will appear.

[Phil77]

So I have a big doubt that scientists can be built. And will they also be invented by order? Or a mess? I doubt it. But the conditions are always better in civilian life!

[AlexanderVP]

Scientific companies are a complete mess, a mixture of a snake with a hedgehog. We give you an ordinary salary - you give us inventions, innovations. The degree of “respect” of the state for its citizens goes through the roof.

[Imobile]

4.5 points and such universities - there are no fools. This ZP after a year of work from 100 and huge demand "abroad". Let the sun stop over Russia, so that electricity does not burn - one opera.

[earloop]

"One of the features of a call to a scientific company is the presence of a diploma of higher education, the average score in which is at least 4,5." As for the "average score of at least 4,5", I’ll say that this is the wrong approach in selecting candidates for creative work. In my unit, I selected the guys according to the following criteria: conscription service in the army, the presence of a diploma in a specialty in which I was not at all interested in evaluations. Conversation, during which I gave out a specific production task. If the guy agreed to solve it, then I sent him to our technical library, in which he picked up the necessary literature for himself to solve the task. The next morning he came with a solution to the problem or did not come at all. There were not many guys who became experts in their field, and some of them defended dissertations. At the next exams, I allowed to use any literature and notes, but this is not very simple. I needed an understanding.

[Anchonsha]

I read the comments, in which many are sick for the country, suggest approaches to solving problems with state building and the authorities. First of all, it is necessary to solve the problems of nepotism and corruption in any business, when applying for any positions, require rigorous testing of their suitability and return for the benefit of the country and its people. This will be a boon to our country.

[gridasov]

“It’s right that they understand the importance of man and his brain. Therefore, it is extremely important to educate young people with algorithmic thinking, and if they are given the basics of mathematics and understanding the essence of the function of a constant value of the number, the future is ensured for this country. With huge flows of information, it is necessary to preserve system It’s necessary to perceive information as raw materials, as a product of analysis and mathematical relationships. Only in this way you can maintain a stable worldview and not be mistaken in the correctness of the chosen paths of movement. Few people believe this, and it doesn’t matter that the process of removing human abilities is already underway. level of relationship with the so-called alien and intelligent creatures .. Most of this, of course, will not be understood, but someone will think about it.
Man is not only facing the challenges and ensuring his sustainable development within the civilization of people.